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Speaker 1: and Henry Gamble being in Billy donwin is bed in

423
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: college and being like, hey, Billy, we're in your bed,

424
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: and that was that surely horrible. It's a gay joke.

425
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: It's no, it's it's not even no, no, no, it

426
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: wasn't evenose receipts. Actually he is mad that you're late.

427
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: It's like you're so mad at me. I can feel

428
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: like it was it was. It's it's just like, oh

429
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: my god, this counted is like interesting humor behavior about behavior.

430
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: You would just come like yeah, you would just come,

431
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 1: and things being like miss you, like see you soon, yes, yes, yeah,

432
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: And it's like we all had text messaging what were

433
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: we doing doing or like last night was fun. Two

434
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: years from now, we're gonna listen back to this and

435
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 1: be like this is the most embarrassing conversation somehow. I mean,

436
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think this actually is

437
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: the coolest thing ever. I think we I think we're

438
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna have that moment with Facebook store. Her name is

439
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: just like wow, that person is just talking to their

440
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: camera and their husband is out of like four ft away,

441
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: like just on his phone scrolling, and she's like, today's

442
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: been crazy, and I'm just like it's I just I

443
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: feel crazy for me a little bit addressing I've done

444
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: this before, so I'm reading myself too, but addressing your

445
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: phone and being like hey guys, anything, yes, and having

446
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: to like a moat you won't believe, and it's like

447
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: you're in a room by your sell why are you moaning? Yeah,

448
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: Like what's just yeah, Oh my god, I've done it.

449
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: I did it one time to Capital Last by Hailee Steinfeld,

450
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, I hope people know this is

451
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: like ironic in a joke because when you watch it,

452
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: there's it doesn't it can tell you to this morning

453
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: because last to night I got I smoked weed and

454
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: I thought about starting a Twitch channel and I was

455
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: like absolutely not. Yeah, but I might still do it,

456
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: but absolutely not at this That's something I have no

457
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: interest in, was Twitch. It's it's the gaming streaming where

458
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: you're playing a game and like you have a webcam

459
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: on you and you're just like that is what being

460
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: a girlfriend is. Just like watching a guy play video games,

461
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: that's actually a real culture. Twitch is what being a

462
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: girlfriend is. Yes, yeah, absolutely, it's Oh god, anyway, did

463
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: your ex boyfriend like to play video game? I've never

464
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: dated a real game, which I think that your character, yeah,

465
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: or like if the game the game in their own time. Yeah, right,

466
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: that that is a need of mine. Where like I'm

467
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: not going to spend time with you and you're just

468
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: staring at your just following down a little path trying

469
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: to get a little treasure Chester. You know what's interesting

470
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: is when you when you start seeing someone or you're

471
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: hanging out with someone and like that you have like

472
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: who they've presented to you and like the sort of

473
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: peacocking dating thing. Um, and then the hidden interests start

474
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: to come out, you know what I mean, Like those

475
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: little things like like whenever like okay, I'll just be

476
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: I'll just reveal this whenever I go on my YouTube. Um,

477
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: like you ever click on YouTube and there's yeah, it

478
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: is who you are, it's who you are the cross

479
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: section of what you like and so like I didn't

480
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: do this with anyone I was dating, but I did

481
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: do it with Greta Titleman and Abe Shorts who I

482
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: was living with, Like one time they saw my YouTube

483
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: like landing page or whatever, and it was it was

484
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: like it was like clips from the view and construction

485
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: videos from theme parts of like roller coasters and favorite

486
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: protractions that they are building, and I had to turn

487
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: to them because the whole wives would be like, oh,

488
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: like I love Housewives, Like that's who you're presented. That's

489
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: like your son sign and this is your moon, your

490
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: moon signed like YouTube and do you want to know

491
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: what's been appearing lately? This is so humiliating. There's a

492
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: scene from Glee. It's like Gwyneth Paltrow's last scene ever

493
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: that she was on on Glee where she just sang

494
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: Turning Tables by Adele And then there's a scene where

495
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: she says goodbye to Matthew Morrison a k a. Will

496
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: Schuster because she got a new job as a substitute teacher.

497
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: The whole, the whole bit of her character was she's

498
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: a sub so she's never around very long and she

499
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: like goes and hops from school to school and subs

500
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: and it's fun and changed people's lives like a carpetbagger,

501
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: and so she has she realizes that it's going to

502
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 1: get serious with Matthew Morrison, sings turning tables and then

503
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: test to him in the hallway, I got a new

504
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: job subbing somewhere else. I'm gonna be teaching Spanish in um,

505
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland isn't that great? And they have this I got

506
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: a new job somewhere and you can tell it was

507
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: a joke, like I'm gonna be teaching Spanish and Cleveland

508
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: isn't that great, but Gwyneth Paltrow just deliver. It's very

509
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: mad and matter of factly, and you're like, okay, we're

510
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: moving on. But um, so she she says to him

511
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: like he's like, are you having any having any feelings

512
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: at all about leaving? And she's like, no, I'm a

513
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: substitute teacher, this is my life and allergic to commitment.

514
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: And then they have this beautiful moment where she says

515
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: to him like, you're in love with someone else and

516
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: it's okay, and I'm I'm leaving so you can go

517
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: to live your truth. And then she movie star walks away,

518
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: turns around and is like and just so you know,

519
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: she's totally into you. Too, and then she turns away

520
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: again and she gets a second movie star turnaround moment,

521
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: which is Matthew Morrison goes, Holly, you come back and visit,

522
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: and she asked this moment where she turns around, tears

523
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: in her eyes. She looks stunning her her beautiful hair

524
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: is like back. She's in this beautiful or just black dress,

525
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: and she goes, I thought you'd never and then she

526
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: literally walks away into the black shadows and she looks

527
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: so stunning, and you're like movie star first of all.

528
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: So because I watched that, I'm now getting like these

529
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: scenes from the later seasons of the recommending I watched

530
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, get these out of here. Um

531
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: I I have had I've been rewatching ten things I

532
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: Hate about you because I'm writing an essay on this

533
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: one scene. Or Heath Ledger he's dropping off cat and

534
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: because she's just been drinking at the party. Remember, he

535
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: goes like, I can't pretend, I can't do an accent

536
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: at all. But he's like, no offense. I know everyone's

537
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: crazy about your sister, but she's without, and that is

538
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: stuck with me. She's without? Is that from Shakespeare? Is

539
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: that from taming the true I don't know, and then

540
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: she does this sort of also like her head spins

541
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: around like a little owl and like her mouth parts

542
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: and it's like and then kind of smiles like I

543
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: might just fall and like she like, let's face sets.

544
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: She didn't say anything, like the face is like I

545
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: think I can fall in love with you. You get

546
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: at my sister like it's without but I'm with with

547
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: And it's literally like, um cemented my entire sexuality of

548
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: love life that it's so but I've been writing about

549
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: it's just been like watching all of these clamps and

550
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: my whole thing right now is just like Heath Ledger

551
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: like slow mode, like sand like rest in Peace videos

552
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: and him looking hot and the song is like ever

553
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: living you make me so make me a want and

554
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: drop you started to get and exactly Ken Burns down.

555
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: Face two is like waste and you're like, okay, but

556
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: those you know what I'm talking about, those fan videos

557
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: that like little Girls make that are like sexually videos

558
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: you make me absolutely? What's not on your YouTube page

559
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: when you go on the home page, um this um

560
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: a lot of cooking videos. I follow these two YouTube chefs.

561
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: One of them is this Rachel Ray knockoff named Laura

562
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: Tally and she lives in Jersey. She might have voted

563
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: for Trump. Um, but she's lovely. She like makes the

564
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: most basic food in the world, and it all looks delicious,

565
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: Like it's the most delicious beefs she's ever seen. No,

566
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: she's she's better than Antony. And she has a lot.

567
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: She has some charisma. It's developed every time you go

568
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: back and watch her first videos. And she's just like

569
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable and so nervous and doesn't know what to

570
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: do and doesn't know like where to look and like

571
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: you know what to say and how to like fill

572
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: in the silence. And now she's like very season and

573
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: she's she's very compelling to watch. Um. Then do you cook? No,

574
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: don't's not even done. I don't okay, I was gonna

575
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: ask give you, like make the recipe. Sometimes I do,

576
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: Like I've made her green got a salad. It's really good.

577
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: I've made I've made her beefs too. It's delicious. Um.

578
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: And then and lately it's been a SMR because Natalie

579
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: Walker recommended. Natalie Walker for some reason, knows so much

580
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: about a SMR. And I've been getting into it. And

581
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: Queen of Serene. Everyone please check out Queen of Serene.

582
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: Queen of Serrene, she lives. She's this like hippie, dippy

583
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: lady in Texas who does amazing handwork, like hand like

584
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: A big part of the SMR is like the visual component,

585
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: which is like moving the hands. And she's she started

586
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: out just on her face and now she's moved away

587
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: to just your hands because she has she went through

588
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: the surgery where it's made her gain weight. And she's

589
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: very self conscious about being on camera and she's very

590
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: honest about that and it's very like and like it

591
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: just makes you like her and like she just does

592
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: a lot of hand movements. And she has this video

593
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: that I think is phenomenal. It's one hour of her

594
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: she went but you will absolutely watch this, both of you.

595
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: She she goes to a thrift store. She went to

596
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: a thrift store and bought a DVD and a VHS

597
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: player for five dollars. And this is part of the video. Yes,

598
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: it's it's it's in the lead up to the video,

599
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: she's telling you about all in SMRs and not going

600
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: to do it, but she's all on a no. Well,

601
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: she she's so there's there's soft spoken and there's a

602
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: whispering a smar so whispering asmrow is actual literal whispering,

603
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: but spoken. It's like, so today I went to It's like,

604
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's the point that she so she so,

605
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: she'll she narrates. It's it's a top, it's an overhead

606
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: camera over a beds sheet, and it's her backdrop for

607
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: putting these VHS tapes of Disney movies that she just

608
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: bought at the thrift store. She goes, I got these

609
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: eight for eight for one dollar, and then she goes

610
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: and then and then she says, you can't beat that price,

611
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: and it's the most soothing doing voice in the world. Sweet.

612
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: It's just like there's got to be like a like

613
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: an extreme coupon ing and a SMR crossover. There has

614
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: to be. But like that is her life that she

615
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: like she does like Korean beauty halls and like all

616
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: the stuff where she just she taps her nails on

617
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: like all these products, but she taps her nails on

618
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: these v these vhs as of Disney movies and then

619
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: she just talks through them. And it's the most like

620
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: basic rude of entry, like assessment of all these iconic

621
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: Disney movies where she's just like the Little Mermaid. Oh no,

622
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: because here's the thing is, it's like, it really doesn't

623
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: matter what you talk about as long as you're doing exactly,

624
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: which is cool, it's coo, but it's is it a

625
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: sexual thing for me? It's not for me. It's because

626
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: here's something everyone. So it doesn't work. It doesn't do

627
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: anything work. It just makes me uncomfortable. Speak up, speak up,

628
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: speak up. I can't hear you. Um. But everyone I asked,

629
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: they're like, it's not sexual for me, but for some

630
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: people that is. But like I've never met someone who's like, yeah,

631
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: it's sexual. I get off to it. Well I did.

632
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: I did seek out at one point male a SMR.

633
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Speaker 1: And there's just one guy who looks just like Chris

634
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Speaker 1: Hemsworth who like his whole thing is he's a rude

635
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: Englishman and he'll be like he does like rule, he'll

636
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: do like she'll be like rude restaurant, rude restaurant page.

637
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: I hate this and people people love that. I hate this.

638
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: So that was like I kind of got off on

639
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: that and didn't literally get off on it, like like

640
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: all this is like a fun little like studio boyfriend experience.

641
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: But Natalie, Natalie and I talked about this where she's like,

642
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: I don't she and I don't get down with the

643
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: young girls who do it because that is like that's

644
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: crazy because that feels like other like men are using

645
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: them for no. No, no, no no. And that's my

646
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: problem with the whole thing is it's like I feel

647
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: like some people are doing it for one reason, and

648
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: then people are consuming it for a whole reason. Yes,

649
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: and it's dark and it's like why are what's going on? Well,

650
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: So the Queen of Serene, So Queen of Serene is

651
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: like very this is the shitty word to say, and

652
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: like I don't mean for this to sound prejorative because

653
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: it's not. But she's wholesome, like there's no like sexual.

654
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like she's going to a thrift

655
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: store by a VHS like she does, and it's wild.

656
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: She has a series of what she calls hospitality baskets

657
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: where she's like she like she'll show you baskets to

658
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: leave in her guest room and things that she puts

659
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: in them, like snacks and like like like razors and

660
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: like shaving cream and like the shampoos and like she'll

661
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: be like, I'm whipping up my little I guess you

662
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: could call it a little box. I put it up

663
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: off my toilet like loose razors. This one's really filthy.

664
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: I should throw it out. Oh this is a pair

665
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: of tweezers that are brown on. This is my daughter

666
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: is a bitical co and here's just some brown water

667
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: in the corner. Did an emergency C section? I think

668
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: that you should do like a parody a smore. I

669
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: caount yeah, anyway, I think I think you too should

670
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: just dip your toes and talk to Natalie's I wouldn't.

671
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I am not surprised to hear that Edalie Walker likes

672
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: SMR because she could do it good SMR. I think

673
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: she's like she's she's from the theater, so she can

674
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: hit all yea. Now, all this talk about VHS takes

675
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: me back. And so what I want to do with

676
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: Katie ruth as I want to take her back? To

677
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: take her back? And I would like to ask Katie

678
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: Worth Ashcraft our guests today on this episode of Lost Culture,

679
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: is this what was the culture that made you say

680
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: culture is for you? And you guys look really excited.

681
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Your mouths are open, and I know I'm just so

682
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: excited to answer this question. I also, I told you guys,

683
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: I just moved, and so I when I was packing

684
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: and unpacking, which was like a truly a three week process,

685
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: I listened to so much of your guys so much,

686
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: and I've listened to a few episodes. I literally listened

687
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: to like all of it. I got this email being like,

688
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: come beyond it, and I was like, I truly think

689
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: I manifested anyways. But I was like, before I got

690
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: the email, I was like, what would my answer be?

691
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: And I was like, thinking about it, this couldn't have

692
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: been better timing, my god. Um, but I have so

693
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: many answers you can give them all the talking about

694
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: them all. Okay, um, see what was the culture? Okay?

695
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: I have a very distinct memory, so I am not like,

696
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: even though I make films, I'm not a huge like

697
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: movie buff. I feel like I missed out on so

698
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: did I everything I hear. But I also like, I

699
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: like what I like. You know, it's like, but that's

700
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: as something's a problem with me, of like a problem

701
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: with me, um, a problem with me? Remember that pieces

702
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: of me, piece pieces pieces of me twice live. Anyways,

703
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: I have this very distinct memory of being at the

704
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: beach with um my cousins and then some family friends.

705
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: We always went down to the outer Banks in North Carolina,

706
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: and my cousin f from He was like, there's this

707
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: movie that's so funny, everyone should watch, and it was

708
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: drop dead gorgeous, and yes, thank god, thank god maybe

709
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: but once before, but it was it wasn't someone else's culture.

710
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: Anytime anyone answers to this question and they don't say

711
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: drop dead gorgeous, I just go yeah. When it just

712
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: came out on Hulu to so that I re entered

713
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: the zeitgeist. That is a helpful culture Hulu. I think

714
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: Ly four, which is so perfect, and I just remember

715
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: watching that and being like the one, this is the

716
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: absolute funnies thing I've ever seen in my whole entire life.

717
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: And it also it was like women being so funny

718
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: in reverent and like I I don't consider like myself

719
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: a performer, but I consider myself very funny ya, which

720
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: is a chill thing to say, but I do. And um,

721
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: but it's so it was like I don't know, just

722
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: like everything, so I don't know it I mean it

723
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: was like this is everything that was so like the

724
00:39:54,239 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: scene where the former pageant winner who has anorexi don't things,

725
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: don't slips, don't go out loud. I'm being pushed around

726
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair just like not even like not even

727
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: by today's standard, does not. I don't. I don't find

728
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: like a non pc or like offensive. It's the irony,

729
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: like just that image is so funny, yes, and that

730
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: like um, just like that slice of culture and that

731
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: being played like it was obviously for laughs, but then

732
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: just seeing the audience like loving it. Like that's when

733
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the funniest thing I've ever

734
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: seen in my whole That's so funny about that to

735
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: me is the fact that that was her winning talent

736
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: when who could Forget Loud by Melissa Manchester. And it's

737
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, the realization that that was

738
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: what she had done. It was just like a reprise

739
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: of her winning talent. The physicality of the actress and

740
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: she has her arms like they're spinning her around in

741
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: the wheels I mean, and then when when it's keeping

742
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: just keep it inside learn that a cultural way. Oh

743
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: my god, I mean that was just the best thing

744
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my whole entire life. So that

745
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: was such a moment for me. And I think that

746
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: kind of like started me off on like, um, just

747
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: like funny teenage girl movies. So that made way for

748
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: well tend things that we hate about you Jawbreaker, Sugar

749
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: and Spice, these movies for me. What was the other one?

750
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Dollhouse, which like it was just like, oh,

751
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: girls being crazy is my favorite thing. And I think

752
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean like yeah, like not the conversation with like

753
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: our women funny or whatever, because we're not. But it's

754
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: like I just like locked in with that so much.

755
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: And I think and when I was thinking about this

756
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: question a lot of like, so, my mom comes from

757
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: this big old Catholic family and there's five girls and

758
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: one brother, and like her and her sisters are just

759
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: like the funniest women in the whole entire world. And

760
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: I come from these like matriarchal like my dad's families,

761
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: like he was raised by his grandmother, and it's just

762
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: like the women just like rule yes, and they were

763
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: so fucking funny. And finally I was just like, yes,

764
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm seeing all these crazy women on TV, and I

765
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 1: love it. Yes, it's like that thing we were saying

766
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: we were saying on the on the episode we recently

767
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: recorded where it's like with nex Twitter, something happens where

768
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily understand exactly why you it's hitting with

769
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: you so hard, but it hits with you so so hard,

770
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: and then maybe years later you'll figure it out why.

771
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: But it's like I remember watching Drop Dead Gorgons and

772
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: lots of those movies you just mentioned and being like,

773
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: I know this is my sense of humor. I do

774
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: not know why these like this like Midwestern town of

775
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: that's like led by this all fame outcast. Like I

776
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: think I did know why because it just was like

777
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: I obviously just like gravitated more towards women, but it

778
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: was yeah, totally. And like especially with Draptic Gorgeous, it's

779
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: the pacing of it is so great, like carbonated, Like

780
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: it's just there's so much happening, so it's fun the

781
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: entire time. My god. Yes, my only complaint with that

782
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: movie is that when it ends, I'm like I wanted

783
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: to see that everything wanted. It almost feels like there's

784
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: a third beat. It doesn't play. Yeah you know what

785
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: I say. Okay, So you know what I say, You

786
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: know what I say? You know what I say, You're wrong.

787
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: Problem there is something What is so great is like

788
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: because you're kind of just like living in this world

789
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: and we're following along with the pageant and with these murders.

790
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: But then what feels sort of dissatisfying is that like

791
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: about that ending is that it sums up and they're

792
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: like and then she went on to work with Diane Sawyer,

793
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: which is wonderful and it's great, but it's not um

794
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: the narrative strung sure of it. I feel like it

795
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like there should be an ending because it

796
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: feels like you're kind of just in like a waiting

797
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: anything there, which I do. I think that is a

798
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: kind of comedy I love though, but you don't want

799
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: to ever end? Yeah, I mean that's I think it's

800
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: a comment on how great it is because when you

801
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: remember feeling like it didn't have a third beat, but

802
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: really the third the first beat is the preparation and

803
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: then the real climax of that movie is the pageant

804
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: in the town. Yeah, I mean, like, and also I remember, like,

805
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys feel, but I personally

806
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: have and I don't know what this has about me,

807
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: but when when people die in movies, I I don't

808
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: know what this is, but I have I really get

809
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: upset when people die in movies, like because I'm like,

810
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: that was someone's life, and like when I don't know

811
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: what it is, I'm literally crazy, Richards, No, no, no,

812
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: because in this movie, I only thought it was funny,

813
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: like it was so big and like when when the

814
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: girl gets blown up on the tractor in the beginning,

815
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, these are it's like a funny. And maybe

816
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: it's because I was young and like wasn't so cookie

817
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: bananas and like didn't care so much. But it's like

818
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: I think I have gotten older, I've become more sensitive

819
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: and like when people die in movies, I'm like that's sad,

820
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: like alive, and at this time with this movie is

821
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: just like it's so cartoonish and and like so funny

822
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: that every character that dies, like I'm just like there somehow,

823
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: somehow Denise Denise's flow flowing up and seeing Kirsty Alley's

824
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: character just gree just it's crazy, that's shocking, and like

825
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: it is it is actually the first real moment of

826
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: like pain and pathos that you feel that. I mean,

827
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: Kirsty Alley gives a great everyone, I mean incredible, we

828
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: got her, Denise Richards, Kirsten Done. I mean we've literally

829
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: sung the praises of Kirston Done on this podcast so

830
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: many times. Underrated makes it look easy one of the best. Yeah,

831
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: I was, I think that. Yeah, Like it does have

832
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: this weird third act problem where just sort of evaporate

833
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: at the end, where like the last is kind of

834
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: just like the food poisoning at the Nationals. Yes, there's

835
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: a heightening thing. That's what we're like waiting for so

836
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: long about like what's happening and then we get the answer.

837
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: But then yeah, I don't know, Like I don't hate it,

838
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: but it's not good. Does that make I tell you

839
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: that nowadays? Nowadays that is a series nowadays, like because

840
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: there wasn't the I think space, Oh my god, maybe

841
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: they should do this now, I mean talk about something

842
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: that should be rebooted as a series, like really, have

843
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: you guys rewatched it recently? It doesn't. It doesn't, but

844
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: but I will say parts of it do well. A

845
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: lot of it does. Parts of it that you could

846
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: not do, like the references to the mentally challenged k. Yeah,

847
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: and the Japanese family even some pedophile humor is like yeah,

848
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of it that is like but

849
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: you could redo it now in irresponsible to um. Yeah,

850
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: I know it was very funny a few years ago,

851
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: Like I showed it to an old boyfriend being like,

852
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: this is the movie that raised me and I hadn't

853
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: seen it a long time. Was I was like, yes,

854
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: but the things I remember about like the little one

855
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: liners like do you think you have them all? You

856
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: think it in the park La of America with them all?

857
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: I went to them all America and I said that, um,

858
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's it's absolutely brilliant, and then

859
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: her a little like, uh, whether they can't tell you

860
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: can't hold the wine like us? Just like yeah, also

861
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: like truly, all the supporting performances are so good, like

862
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: the two drunk ladies at the end who run the

863
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: regional padget Yes, like so good like Allison Jenny and

864
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: Ellen Barbar and together truly, I mean that is a

865
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: duo we should cherish. Yeah that was oh my gosh. Yeah,

866
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: So that that was one that like opened my eyes

867
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: of just being like, oh, I'm finally seeing women as

868
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: funny as I know they should be portrayed because it's

869
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: like you really didn't. I remember on Stars at the time,

870
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: there was that movie that played again and again and

871
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: again and also bringing On, so it was like double

872
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: dose Dunced and it was large female cast of really

873
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: and what I liked about it is the characters were characters,

874
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like really like Eliza dou

875
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: was character and bringing On. That's like you never forget

876
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: that character. It was well drawn, well performed, like Gabrielle

877
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: Union was so like strong in that movie, and like

878
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: such like every actress was playing it for everything it

879
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: was worth. Even the little supporting characters like that didn't

880
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: get anything, like there were choices made like it was

881
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: fun and it was like it was camp be to

882
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: use totally totally and there's and like not to like

883
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: always more in something from like from the past. But

884
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: like you like, it's weird that you don't get a

885
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: small budget comedy with large female casts anymore. Besides, like

886
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you get you get like Bridesmaids, but those

887
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: are but then right there's like a small budget thing

888
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: with like a bunch of like great actors, but that

889
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: kind of thing gets like shut it away at Netflix

890
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: or its like or it gets buried in No one's

891
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna watch it and haveing like a big conversation, right

892
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: maybe like someone great, someone I was gonna say, you

893
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: know what, you get a lot nowadays, and this is

894
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: not this is not to pooh pooh it. It's just like,

895
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: I see there's a formula that we're following, and I

896
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: think we should be cognizant of the fact that it

897
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: could get a little road. You see a lot of

898
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: like three diverse girls, you know, like one white girl,

899
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: one Spanish girl, and one black girl, and it's just

900
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: like look at them, and it's just like you guys,

901
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: like I can feel you trying to to to cater

902
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: to an audience. And it's like like because of the

903
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: way they market it and because of like do you

904
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I get that, you know, like

905
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: you know what I call them like Instagram story movies,

906
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: Like it's a little like um yeah, and it's it's like, oh, no,

907
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: showing me some fucking weird, show me some like you know,

908
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: there's not I mean. And then there are movies like that,

909
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: but it's like but they're far and few between. Um oh,

910
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: I had a point I was going to say about

911
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: Zoeel does um oh. But I think part of it

912
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: is like with the reaction of like social media and stuff.

913
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: I remember remember that short story that came out like

914
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: two years ago, maybe cat Person, and I really liked that.

915
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was good and then um, but then

916
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: there's like this backlash being like, um, actually it's not good.

917
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: It's fat phobic, and it's like, well it can be,

918
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 1: but the yeah, and it's like, well it's a piece

919
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: of fiction, like people are fat phobic, like we can

920
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: this girl is allowed, like you know what I mean.

921
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: It's like that doesn't make it a bad story. You

922
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: don't that's a character you don't like. And people couldn't

923
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: distinguish the two. And I thought it was an article

924
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: because they were like this is like they were treating

925
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: the treatment of it was like the conversation round. It

926
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: was like, was that it was like a news story. Yeah,

927
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: it was like it's problematic and it's like, well, no,

928
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: it's a story, Like I don't know it was. It

929
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: was like kind of like they couldn't decipher. So I

930
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: think some of these people are like we need these people,

931
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: we super relate to and like and then it's like, well, yeah,

932
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: we know what if we have some one who like

933
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: they're fat phobic or they're whatever, and I'm like, that's

934
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: not a good trait in them, but like we're following

935
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: their story and we don't have to be like rooting

936
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: for them. And I do want to just go out

937
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: on a women say that the people who we're calling

938
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: cat person fat phobic were just the men, because it

939
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: was like, you're making fun of she doesn't want to

940
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: funk this dude who weighs like more than who has

941
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: a weird b M. I like, whatever, weird, but you

942
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's like it was that I

943
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: distinctly remember that that being sort of pushed by Yeah,

944
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: and when also like here's the thing, like there are

945
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: women who are fat phobic, and there's women who are

946
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: also Like that is like not being like I think

947
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: somebodys we get a little caught up and being like

948
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: that story deserves to be told, um, which like yes,

949
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: that does like work in a lot of ways. But

950
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: then also it's like, yeah, but like let's hear from

951
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: these like you know, I guess like anti heroes a little.

952
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if the anti heroes like yeah, yeah,

953
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: we don't have to be like on the same page

954
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: as the people were seeing their story, and it is

955
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: there is a lot of sex as a minute too,

956
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: because it's almost like when something like Breaking Bad or

957
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: mad Men happens, it's like, you know, literally Donald Draper

958
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: and Um Walter White become like almost like icons Donald

959
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Donald Trump Um, but like they become like

960
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: style icons, cultural icons and like you you you Don

961
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: Draper is like a horrific person, but yet like he's

962
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: like Don Draper and his cool and like but meanwhile,

963
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: like and this is not to necessarily like super like whatever.

964
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like it happens to a show

965
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: like Girls and like uh Hannah Horror Wrath does things

966
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: that are like shitty, and it's like, well, Girls endorses

967
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: this kind of person and Girls where it's like with

968
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: all these shows that revolve around men, it's like just

969
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: because mad Men is about a misogynist who's like, you know,

970
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: like a cheater and like like an alcoholic and so

971
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: many of those things, it does that like we we

972
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: don't say, well mad Men endorses this kind of man. Yeah, interesting,

973
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: like look at a complicated man well they get antihero

974
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: and then and then it's only recently where like the

975
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: anti heroine is embraced and we can't just see everyone

976
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: as like anti hero you know what I mean. It's

977
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: like these shows with women at the center or with

978
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: female cast, it's like we hold them accountable for the

979
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: behaviors are the characters, and it almost makes it impossible

980
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: to see shades of gray and these kinds of people

981
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: because I think it's like with cat person, it's like,

982
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: well it's fat bobic, you know what I mean. It's like, Okay,

983
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: well maybe it's just like about this type of person,

984
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: and it's like you're saying it's a story, sure, yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah,

985
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: but you know what I miss. You know what I

986
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: miss is that like I miss like a fucking villain,

987
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: like someone that you're everyone is meant to hate and

988
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: be on the same page about. At the same time,

989
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: there's not fictionalized. There hasn't been a fictionalized villain on

990
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: TV or in film that sticks out to me. Yeah,

991
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: but you're you're you're still supposed to like there's still

992
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: like this thing where like people feel like they need

993
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: the creators need feel they need to round out these

994
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: characters by like having you sympathize with them in some way,

995
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, sometimes give me the tropes, like give

996
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: give me the stock characters. Like I don't know, I

997
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: don't know. I like, yeah, maybe maybe that's like a

998
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: weird unfounded claim that I'm making, But like I feel

999
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: like we're massing, Like yes, like we're all like getting

1000
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: off on like complicated anti heroes or whatever. Even with

1001
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: the most famous villains like Maleficent, it's like, don't way

1002
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: to humanize her. And it's like she's a Maleficent. She

1003
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: turned into a dragon and test to kill villain. That

1004
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: that's she's iconically a villain. So let Angelina Jolie be

1005
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: the villain. That's why we bought the ticket. Actually, we

1006
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: don't need to actually actually number forty three. Let why

1007
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: we bought the ticket. Actually, um okay, really quickly, I

1008
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: just want to say it just you you're talking about

1009
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: dropped a gorgeous not while not holding up for some reason.

1010
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: Last night, I this is not quite the same thing.

1011
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,959
Speaker 1: But last night I decided to I never watched Friends.

1012
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: I don't really care for it as a show, but

1013
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: I put on the Brad Pitt episode and I was like,

1014
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: I remember loving this when it when it when it aired,

1015
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: it was like eleven and like loving it, loving it,

1016
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: loving it. It was like the funniest thing I've ever seen.

1017
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: It was so cool. At such a moment, everyone was

1018
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: watching Brad Pitt Beyond Friends Um a terrible episode, terribly written,

1019
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: and I would say actor Brad Pitt sucks in it,

1020
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: like it was just about the novelty. But then like

1021
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: the whole storyline was like yeah, like Brad Pitt and

1022
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: like Brad's character and Ross starting this rumor in high

1023
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: school that rachel Um was intersex and that she was

1024
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: a hermaphrodite, and that was like such a like a

1025
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: cathartic laugh line of like, oh that show was number

1026
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: one for LGBT. Yes, yes, but it was also show

1027
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: that was on every night, every every night in my house.

1028
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: And it's one of those shows that where I've seen

1029
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: every episode, but like I couldn't tell you on every night.

1030
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: So there are there's some people and I don't and

1031
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't understand these people, and I would love for

1032
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: to sit down over coffee and talk to talk to

1033
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: these people about this. It is a textureless show that

1034
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: is a smooth surface. I cannot tell you what happens

1035
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: in it. Well, I mean that was what comedy was then.

1036
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 1: It was like someone coming in and like Karen Walker

1037
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: being like all right, Mary, and then they listen Pam's

1038
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: just like it's like it is funny, but it's not.

1039
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: It's not a joke. Yeah. But then also those then

1040
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: also like they do do jokes on their shows in

1041
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: the most like joke way. Yeah, it's like this interesting

1042
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: thing where it's like, I don't know, Network TV in

1043
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: the nineties, just like truly, and then we're like, we

1044
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 1: gott to invent the Internet and like get us something

1045
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: else to do. We got it that the internet. We

1046
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: got it that the internet. We had show up to

1047
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: the office or they inventing the internet, Like, guys, we're

1048
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: pushing up the netline game Bad Friends is getting bad

1049
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: speaking like they are rolling out the red carpet for

1050
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: that once upon a time in Hollywood. Now have you

1051
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: heard anything about this? I heard about the trailer. As

1052
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: a filmmaker, what do you think of tarantine? Um? I mean,

1053
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,479
Speaker 1: like I it's hard for me to have a super

1054
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: strong opinion about anything. I like, there's what is he

1055
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: made that I've liked um Um. I liked no, no, no,

1056
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 1: what's the one with pulp fiction? Um? Like I don't

1057
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: like worship at the Church of Him. It's a little

1058
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: like a Tarantino movie is a Tarantino movie. Um. Sometimes

1059
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: it just feels so like he's saying things no one

1060
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: else is saying, and like he's doing what anyone else

1061
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: dares to do. And I'm just like like, well, I

1062
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: don't know, like I don't think that's true. I think

1063
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: it's true. It's like a little like it's just that

1064
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: these people on pedestals and that's like what this issue is.

1065
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: Like we're just start of seeing the same things and

1066
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: it's like, yes, that's cool, but like let's get a

1067
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: few like yeah, I don't know. Somebody said like like

1068
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: circulating on Twitter years. The reason I bring it up

1069
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: is because it was like Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio

1070
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: and they asked them both like, so, what are you

1071
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: guys going to retire? Brad Pitt is fifty five and

1072
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio was forty four, So asking Leonardo Caprie he's

1073
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna retire a to me is and and also it's

1074
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: just like what could we be more obsessed with you.

1075
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: He's forty four. But also the second thing happened where

1076
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: it was like there was this article that was like,

1077
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio has bravely never done a sequel and never

1078
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 1: done a superhero movie. Someone and two year old Zoe

1079
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: because in posted something. She posted this article and then

1080
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: she wrote something I love, which was um. She she wrote,

1081
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: like do a movie with a female director for the

1082
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: first time in twenty years? Challenge? Yeah, I was honestly, yes,

1083
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: let's not. Let's what was the last movie he did

1084
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: with the female I don't know, but like it's been

1085
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: yere and it's like there hasn't been a lot that

1086
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a lot of effort on Leonardo DiCaprio's

1087
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: part to involve like if you ever really think about it,

1088
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,959
Speaker 1: every time Leo was in a movie, he does show

1089
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: and it's like really sort of masculine argro stuff, and

1090
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: it's like he comes from that, like so funny brad Packy,

1091
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: like it killed a Barry lived in it, like Man Man,

1092
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: Man Man, and it's like, yeah, he never did a

1093
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: sequel or like in a superhero movie. But Katie Rith

1094
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: is just like, yeah, Brayley dates like a twenty two

1095
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: year old. It's like, yeah, like he's the same like

1096
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: person as Dane Cook in essence. You know. It's like

1097
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: it's not like don't make him no, That's what I'm

1098
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: kind of saying. It's like, yeah, he's he's not like

1099
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: he's good, but like we kind of like elevate these

1100
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: people of like and it's sort of it's like but yeah,

1101
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: like actually like we're seeing art in such a like

1102
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: eight person little cesspool, and it's like, yeah, go with

1103
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: a female director exactly. Imagine a female director being like

1104
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: a bear is going to birthly truly, like like yeah,

1105
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: like vaginal metaphors, right right right, if they don't want to,

1106
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: if they don't want to, wait, what are your other

1107
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: answers if you have them, if you would like to offer,

1108
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, okay, Well, so, so both of my parents

1109
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: are artists. So I grew up in a very like

1110
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: little arty household, but there are my mom's a printmaker

1111
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: and my dad's a sculptor. Um. But I yeah, that

1112
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: was cool. I know, it is it is, and so

1113
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: like I do feel like I was very one thing

1114
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: that has been so helpful, and it's something I only

1115
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: kind of been realizing recently because like being a creative person, um,

1116
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: your success gets very tight into like your popularity and UM.

1117
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: That is, believe it or not, something I've struggled with.

1118
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: And I think I'm the only one actually that's you. Yeah,

1119
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: that's that's a mean thing I'm working on in therapy. UM.

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Speaker 1: But I will say one thing is like they're both

1121
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: incredibly talented and they're very respected in their fields, but

1122
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: they're not like famous artists, and um, that has been

1123
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: such a helpful thing for me to think about in

1124
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: terms of like growing up my whole life, like they're

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01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: artists and as nothing tied in with like yeah exactly,

1126
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: And there's something that's been very helpful about that. And

1127
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: just like that this choice, I think that's been sort

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01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: of recently, maybe in the last like two years from me.

1129
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: You're just being like, oh, I am a filmmaker, I

1130
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: am an artist and like um and just like deciding

1131
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: that and not waiting for approval. And I will say

1132
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: that sort of a mindset switch has helped me create

1133
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: like some of my best work. It's like you're just

1134
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: doing it, um, and it's not like you're not trying

1135
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: to find like you're not trying to tap into an

1136
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: energy that's already out there there or like in the zeitgeist.

1137
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: It's like you're just following what you want to be

1138
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: doing because like you have to trust yourself as a

1139
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: creative and as an artist. Um and yeah, so I

1140
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: think that was like incredibly helpful and incredibly like and

1141
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: also like I had like a normal child, people like

1142
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: artist Mui have been crazy and it's like no, like

1143
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: to church every Sunday, like you know, um, so cool

1144
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: and like like and that will be like a constant

1145
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: fixed point for you to like have I don't like

1146
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: to have like your parents come from that, like to

1147
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: have that lifetime of an experience totally And there's something

1148
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: just so I mean like and that is like a

1149
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: true privilege I come from of like me being like,

1150
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: oh I'm going to do comedy. I want to make

1151
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: films like I never had to like convince my parents

1152
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: or anything, which I consider myself very lucky. Um. But

1153
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: again it's also just been a very helpful role model

1154
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: of just like oh, they are both artists, like no

1155
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: matter where like the tide is on, what isn't is

1156
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: unpopular or if their work is in Vogue or not,

1157
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: and like seeing like when I was growing up my dad.

1158
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: My dad makes these very like conceptual like sculptures and

1159
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: artwork which is very neat and like he'd but I

1160
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 1: will say like as he's or as he's gotten older

1161
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: with me and my family, we've all gotten older. Um,

1162
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: he's become I feel like, more well known and his

1163
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: work as being recognized more. But it's so interesting because

1164
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: like he's been doing the same stuff as all my

1165
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: whole life. Um, and he didn't like change from that,

1166
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: and like it's cool just being like, oh, like you'll

1167
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: get recognized eventually or if you don't, like you're still

1168
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: doing the thing you want to do. And also the

1169
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: kind of thing of recognition as the goal, Like I

1170
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: feel like the longer you do this, you realize like

1171
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: that actually can't be camp you. You're reminded of people

1172
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: like that really pop off, like when they're truly in

1173
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: their fifties. Like I always think of like Anne Doubt

1174
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: and Melissa Leo as examples of like people that like

1175
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: popped off and ny like forty years old. Yeah, and

1176
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: it's like she's and she's, uh, you think she's been.

1177
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: He's the thing she had she had, she just wasn't

1178
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: on our TV screen, right, And I think that's part

1179
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: of it, is like you take yourself seriously as an

1180
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: artist and then when that like when you're not waiting

1181
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: for someone to like take your hand, and that's what

1182
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: was for me with this film. So I just finished

1183
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: shooting this film, Ramsey, which was incredibly fun and also

1184
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: like we were saying, early the hardest thing I've ever

1185
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 1: done to life, and I threw such a terrible note

1186
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: it is okay. I mean you were very missed. But

1187
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: Bone was supposed to be in it, but um he

1188
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: had something else. Yeah, we have something and that's and

1189
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: that happens, that's the biz. But we had an incredible gal,

1190
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: this girl Sophia Dobri Shin, who was actually a p

1191
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: A on the film, and she um ended up doing

1192
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: the part and knocked it out of the part. It

1193
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: was like I just finished a rough cut editing it

1194
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: like before I came here, and it was like, she's

1195
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: just like a little piece of candy. I love it,

1196
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: a piece of mean candy. So Oscar, I deserve the credit,

1197
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: and that's what I told her. What is the film? Okay?

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01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: So it is a short, well really quickly before I

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01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: get into that. What I was saying was like I

1200
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: was really getting a point where I was like, I

1201
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: want to make this film. I want to make films,

1202
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: but like I'm waiting for someone to like tell me

1203
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: it's okay to do it. And I had this phone

1204
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: call with Katie Skelltland, who is her. I just think

1205
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: she's one of the most talented people and she is

1206
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: a friend and maybe this would embarrass her, but like

1207
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: she I consider her like a mentor in some ways

1208
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: based on just like some phone calls we've had and

1209
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: like the opportunity she's given me, and like I've just

1210
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: had this phone call with her last like February, and

1211
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to make a short, Like

1212
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: how where do I start? Like how do I do it?

1213
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: And She's like, you just start and it was like

1214
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: the best like anti advice ever. And I was like, well,

1215
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: what if I don't know what I'm doing. She's like,

1216
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: you aren't going to know what you're doing. You just

1217
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: like say you're doing it, and then people come out

1218
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: of the woodwork, and like so I started this film

1219
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: and then I cold emailed a DP this incredible girl,

1220
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornsby, who, um, it's just incredibly talented and it's like, yeah,

1221
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: look her up. Charlotte Hornsby. Um, I called emailed her

1222
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: with the script. She loved it. She came on board,

1223
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: and then I like started just assembling this team. And

1224
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: then people are like, oh, you keep talking about how

1225
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: you're doing it. And then this one guy who I

1226
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: was friends with was like, let me be your a D.

1227
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: So he comes on. Brian Flaherty comes on, is my

1228
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: a D? From an Instagram message? Wouldn't have happened without him,

1229
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: Like he brought it together. Elizabeth Scadden, this girl came

1230
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: out and was my producer. And it's just like, oh,

1231
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: like you just move forward and say you're doing it

1232
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: and like, I know that sounds very like woah, like

1233
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: the secret, but it is um and so it was.

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01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: It was an incredibly affirming process because it was just like, oh,

1235
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: this didn't come from someone being like that's a great idea,

1236
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: you should do it. It just came from being like,

1237
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: you just decide you're doing it. Yeah. It's like I'm

1238
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: not to be like whatever this man even, but it

1239
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: is the secret, and it is, it works, it's it's

1240
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 1: it's an inertia thing. It's like you just you don't

1241
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: move until you start moving, and then when it's moving,

1242
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: you keep moving, yeah, exactly, and like yeah, and I

1243
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, I'm going to make this. And

1244
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: then I was like, I've never fundraised before, and I

1245
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: raised like fourteen dollars for it, and I had money,

1246
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: um that, which is another thing I try to be

1247
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: like really transparent about. It's like, I had a great

1248
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: out and pass away and who unexpectedly left me some money.

1249
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: And because filmmakings like fucking expensive, I think that's a

1250
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: thing that should be talked about more like yeah, it's insane.

1251
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: And then so when she had passed away, I was like, wait,

1252
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: this is a good bump to like on top of this,

1253
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: I can raise money and get to where I need

1254
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: to get. So that I was gonna say, that's so

1255
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: lovely that you're that she left you some Yes, fran

1256
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: On fran if you're out there, you're up there. I

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Speaker 1: love her on fran Um fran Liebman. She was born

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01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: on in Columbus, France. So what part of the process

1259
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: are you in right now? Editing? So we just literally

1260
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: assembled the rough cut right before this, but so anyway

1261
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: to answer the question, it is sort of this like whimsical,

1262
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: surreal short comedy. It's going to be about like eleven

1263
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: to twelve minutes long, um, the perfect length. Um. And

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: it's about this young gal Ramsey who's played by Naughtia Pinder,

1265
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: who's truly a fucking star. I looked her because when

1266
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: I thought and she's she's, Oh my god, she's the

1267
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: most delightful charismatic, Like you could just like watch her

1268
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: say the alphabet and you're like, I'm entertained. Um. And anyways,

1269
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: she's sort of at this point where she's hitting a

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01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: bunch of like roadblocks, both of her own making and

1271
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: of other people, um like enforcing that upon her. Um.

1272
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 1: And then she's with a friend, this girl Rachel, who's

1273
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: one of my favorite characters, and it played by Eadie Monica.

1274
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you some clips of her app like, oh,

1275
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: it's just like I'm obsessed with her. Um. She's so incredible.

1276
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: She's so incredible in this movie. And then um, basically, um,

1277
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: Ramsey is in an antique shop. She breaks all of

1278
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: these dolls by accident, has to buy them, and then

1279
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: Eadie is like, what are these dolls? And then in

1280
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: a moment of like what are these dolls, Ramseys are like,

1281
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: they're my show. This is my show. And then it

1282
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: cuts to like her putting on a show with They're

1283
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: like she puts on a show with those broken dolls,

1284
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: and then eats manager comes to the show, is obsessed

1285
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: with the show, but then gives the dolls their own

1286
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: television show and not Ramsey, and then Ramsey has sort

1287
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: of like a um like we see the fault, the

1288
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: mental fallout of like watching these dolls become famous. It's

1289
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: it's very funny, it's very silly, but it was also

1290
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: very Yes, I wrote it, and it was very cathartic

1291
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 1: to write, and like, um, it's sort of just like

1292
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: no one's understanding her and a lot of people are

1293
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: like telling her things about herself that aren't true, and

1294
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: so she's this really great moment like that's this like

1295
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: climatic scene where she's yelling at this guy who's just

1296
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: at a taco shop with her, played by um Bartia

1297
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: Selini who's so great and um she's and he's like

1298
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: just yelling at her about stuff, and she's basically like

1299
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: like kind of mother, like fuck you, you can't actually

1300
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 1: I know exactly what's happened to me, and I know

1301
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: who I am, and it's a like really cathartic moment,

1302
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: and so it's fun. I can't wait to see. Yes,

1303
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. So we're finishing up and then we're

1304
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 1: going to be submitting the festivals and hopefully it'll be

1305
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: on NBC this fall. Hopefully. That's that's amazing. Oh my god,

1306
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Congratulations guys, such a huge Yeah. I mean,

1307
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: but it was really the hardest thing ever, Like the

1308
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: days leading up to it. You can ask um, my

1309
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: good friends at least Morales and that's who I are,

1310
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: the incredible but I was like, I'm calling them like

1311
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: my emotional support producers, like I was losing and they

1312
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: were so helpful. But I think they were also like,

1313
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: get this film out of her. That helps. That helps

1314
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: the process because everyone just wants you to be totally,

1315
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: totally and like the most like magnanimous way of just

1316
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: like just for everyone's well being, let's just make sure

1317
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: this goes to smoothing truly. Umm, but that sounds amazing.

1318
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. When do we think? Do we don't

1319
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: know when is going to come out? Well, so I'm

1320
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna you don't know, Well, let me let her

1321
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: finish tomorrow, just kidding. No, um, well we we don't

1322
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: know in the sense of like I'm going to try

1323
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: and get it into a few big festivals and then

1324
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: that will be the premiere, because they want you to

1325
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: be the ones you like to premiere the film, so

1326
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: you hold it back and so it's a stay tuned.

1327
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: It's it's a stay tun and now it's taking Yes,

1328
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: you can tune in for I don't Think so, honey,

1329
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: which is going to happen right now. So this is

1330
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: our one. Did you not know? No, No, I knew,

1331
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: but I but I'll be fine, very fine. But when

1332
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: I famously didn't I don't think so honey, tried to

1333
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: recite a poem and it, Oh my god, that was

1334
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: my favorite ever, just the second performance of the night. Yeah,

1335
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: but no, I loved that the poem eventually got out,

1336
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: got out boe and gave me the extra time, which

1337
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: was the most charitable thing anyone's ever done for me.

1338
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: There a charitable boy in the beginning of EPI, Um,

1339
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: I do okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so.

1340
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: These time starts now I don't think so honey, you're

1341
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: saying you're not gonna see Cats. You are gonna see Cats.

1342
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: We're all gonna see Cats together in one huge and

1343
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 1: it will play the biggest theater in the world. Here's

1344
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: the thing. Cats is going to be a cultural moment,

1345
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: and I know I'm one to top because I don't

1346
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: see any scary movies. Like I won't see it too.

1347
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: I did not see us and like. But the thing

1348
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: is like when a cultural moment like Cats rolls around, like,

1349
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey, you're not gonna see it.

1350
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey, you're not watching the trailer

1351
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: and seeing Jennifer Hudson in any second drag, old cat

1352
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: drag in a world where we're supposed to accept that

1353
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: she's older than Judy dnn, she's the oldest cat. You're

1354
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: not gonna see that. I'm sorry, I don't think so honey,

1355
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: you're saying you're not gonna see Taylor Swift sprinkled cat

1356
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: nip in a can and with those on. I don't think, so, honey,

1357
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see cats. I was sing lion King.

1358
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: The women next to me go, I know we're not

1359
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna see I turned to them and I said, I

1360
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. I was like, you'll be there,

1361
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: I'll be there, and we'll all be there and we

1362
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: all have together because we all know we're going to

1363
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: see cats. I don't think so. That's absolutely we're going

1364
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: to see cats. It's unmissable. Are great, are great? Thank you,

1365
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: thank you, simple sneakers. But this is bowen yangs. I

1366
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. And as time starts now, I

1367
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Fung schway bitch. It is the

1368
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: biggest Asian scam in the world and we're all falling

1369
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: for it. Lock stalk, barrel bitch. My mom comes and

1370
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: visits me in New York City and starts moving around

1371
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: my apartment. Go, mom, what do you do When she goes,

1372
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: you can't have the mirror facing the bed because that

1373
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: you invite evil spirits or some My mom is a

1374
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: merry and fucking Williams and all of a sudden and

1375
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: she's talking about spirits and energies and love and battlefields

1376
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: and no, Mom, let me put my plant next to

1377
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: my couch. It's my mom goes, you can't have a

1378
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,879
Speaker 1: plant with a pointy spiky leave because it promotes violence

1379
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: and invites violence and your life. You need a wide,

1380
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: broad leave. And I go, mom, it's a leave and

1381
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: it will not do anything. And I'm doing okay for myself.

1382
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: For me putting my end table in that quarter of

1383
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: the room pointing west or where the sun sets is fine.

1384
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: It's not gonna kill me. I think, my mom five

1385
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 1: seconds better go to fucking school, to interior design school

1386
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: and not followed this ancient Chinese bullshit. That's one minute

1387
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: with that, with that request of your mother's, that's my best.

1388
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: And that was a very good I love any I

1389
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: don't think the moneymore from someone said afterwards that was

1390
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: one of my best, but you said that was you

1391
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: said that was one of my best HP today but

1392
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: in the past, if it didn't happen today, it never happened,

1393
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: never happened. And that's a rule. Yeah, I don't think

1394
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: that Asians, thank you one of my best. Okay, So

1395
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: is it time for Katie dash Craft en queen? I

1396
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 1: don't think so. When your time starts now, Okay, this

1397
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: is one that's been sort of brewing with me. I

1398
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, Angelina Jolie, Okay, I you little,

1399
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: skinny faced, big lipped, not a lot going on. And

1400
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you put up anyone next to

1401
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: my favorite woman in the world, Jennifer Anison, it's going

1402
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: to be Jennifer Andison eleven times out of ten. All right.

1403
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: She is funny, she is charismatic. You've never made me laugh.

1404
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: Angelina Jolie, you're getting so serious and you're just collecting

1405
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: children from all over the world, which I think is weird.

1406
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: And also one time you were in a movie where

1407
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: you played a weather woman and it's the only movie

1408
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: I've ever rented. And then I turned it off and

1409
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 1: I had nothing else to do. And this is also

1410
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: before the internet, So I just sat at home and

1411
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: I just think that you knew um are sulking throughout

1412
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: the world and I don't appreciate it, and move, get

1413
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: leave France, Angelina and Charlie, I don't think so, honey,

1414
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: come back five seconds to America and face your fears.

1415
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: That's one minute. Honestly, movie was called life or something like.

1416
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: It was the worst movie I've ever seen. She had

1417
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: a blond wig. Oh it was so bad. Sulking around

1418
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: the world, that's what she does. She has dark energy

1419
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: for sure, and it's not and it's not fun energy.

1420
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: She was fun to me in one movie and that

1421
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: was Mr. And Mrs. Smith. She really was funny to

1422
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: me in that movie. She she has such dark energy

1423
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: and it's like not, it's not um like spooky fun.

1424
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: It's literally just like, oh, this kid's dying all over

1425
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: there and you're just like, Okay, Angelina, She's it's it's

1426
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 1: very apparent that like, oh, you grew up in in

1427
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: show biz, You're you have daddy issues, but your family

1428
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,560
Speaker 1: is rich and and you're you're finding I don't know,

1429
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: it's yeah, she I never really loved stand Angelina, know.

1430
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: I just I'm such a gen girl. I've always been

1431
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: team and because here's the thing I think we want

1432
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: about her, But she's having fun. My thing with Jennifer

1433
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 1: Anderson is it always feel like she just had a

1434
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,879
Speaker 1: glass and a half of wine. And I love that, Yes, exactly,

1435
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: And at any time she's had a glass and a

1436
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: half of Pinot Griggio and she is living in it.

1437
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 1: And she's also like always friends with people, like everyone's

1438
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: always like Jen's my good friend or like it's not

1439
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: founded on anything, but like I feel like she's just

1440
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: a friend, where I feel like Angelina is like not

1441
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: a friend. See, I've heard things about both of them,

1442
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: about people who have dealt with them personally. And I've

1443
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: heard that Jennifer Aniston can drink like a fucking tank

1444
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: good and she'll be changed smoking cigarettes and like talking

1445
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: to you about you. And I've heard that Angelia Jolie

1446
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: is legit like mom first, like it's not not seppic,

1447
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: and that she is a huge fan of Survivor and

1448
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: what you like and which I kind of love that

1449
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: she like stands this, But I feel like that's an

1450
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: alien coming down to Earth and being like what do

1451
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: humans and what is the reality shows here? Survivor? They

1452
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: must have lived on an island things and I can

1453
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: be a good mother. Yeah, she's iconic. I would say this.

1454
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: They're both iconic, and we don't have to compare them,

1455
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: but we do. I will say Angelina is an icon,

1456
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: but not a fun icon. It depends on what you

1457
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 1: find fun. If you find like car chases and like

1458
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: guns fun, then Angelina Jolie is like the person for

1459
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: you if you think Pinot Grigio is fun and someone

1460
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: like literally like hiding under a bed to get away from,

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Speaker 1: like someone who comes into a bedroom and she shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be there. That's Jennifer. Like, um, Angelina Jolie gives me

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01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: like dark red fingernail energy girl who plays the violin,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that the type of girl that people like.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not that people. Honestly, it's kind of crazy

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Speaker 1: because Jennifer Anison is the ted cheerleader and Angelina Jolie

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Speaker 1: is the goth girl. But I feel that like mainstream

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: America as kind of like really split and been like

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Speaker 1: we like the goth girl, like the head cheerleader, which

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Speaker 1: actually is a progression because ordinarily you just go right

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Speaker 1: with the head cheer but Angelina Julie has like the dark.

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01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: They truly are two sides of the same coin, which

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: is what made that whole Brad Pitt thinks so crazy.

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01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: It's very Jackie Maryland, very Jackie Maryland. But yeah, okay,

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01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: but also reversed and that Jackie was the dark one,

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Speaker 1: but the kind I think Marylyn is. I was going

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01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: to say that Marylyn was the dark was the energy

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Speaker 1: you tell me more. My Marilyn Monroe is av Levin

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01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: and vice versa. The same, Yeah, the same thought here,

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Speaker 1: the same thought. I think we should forget itis Asians

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01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: out there. We got to forgive Avril for the hell

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Speaker 1: of Kati video. No, we don't. It's time and it's

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01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: time for us. Oh my god, because av little mama. Yes, Mama,

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Speaker 1: Mama to people who are extinct, well, mama does have

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01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: been fun fun line and that and that and that

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01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: girlfriend remakes where she goes something something something. I'm telling you,

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01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: like Jennifer girls came out. I'm telling you, Jennifer, do

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Speaker 1: you guys remember that Robin song? And she doesn't duet

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01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: with um, you guys are just the Rabbit concert. She

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01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: doesn't do it with um, Oh my gosh. Oh and

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01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: it's like do do do? Do I actually the world's

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01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: worst voice? That's no. Yes, Well we're gonna put it

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Speaker 1: to the text in just a second. No, I get

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01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: I can't remember the song. Whatever, Well it's out there somewhere.

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01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: Look up. Robin duets everyone. Um, this was truly such

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Speaker 1: a fun. This was this is really wonderful. Um. I

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Speaker 1: just adore both of you and love you, and I

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01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: feel like I should we just known each other for

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01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: a we always we've loved I've loved something like the

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Speaker 1: film with Christmas Scott Thomas. Yes, I do remember that.

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Speaker 1: That was the French one. Yes, yes, And I saw

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01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: that by myself in theaters back when I was seeing

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01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: serious movies by myself and trying to be a serious

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01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: little little boy. I was renting it from the library.

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Speaker 1: I rent it from the way. Um it's Katie Ruth,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, and look out for Ramsey. Yes

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Speaker 1: it's coming, and um we do end every episode with

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Speaker 1: a song yeah, yeah, yeah, and now we can. This

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Speaker 1: has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Boham,

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Speaker 1: Joe Silio, and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please

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