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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt I said we

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Speaker 1: Stand them today. Yeah, okay, did they sign anybody else

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Speaker 3: We're picking twenty first. We got three trade offers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Could be useful to get a quarterback next year, could be.

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Speaker 3: try this again. I'm gonna counter. I went this year's third,

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Speaker 3: make this deal very badly. Uh So I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: Warren's appealing to me. The d tackle from Ole Miss

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Speaker 3: Amri and Hampton is there, Okay, Caleb Johnson is there.

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Speaker 1: I prefer Hampton.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a better receiver, more explosive to Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Think you roll the dice, you'd take Warren.

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Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. I think pass catchers are harder

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Speaker 1: Like Bowers last year. Oh, the receiver class was better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's replacing Michael Prude on my roster, except he

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Speaker 3: the you know, twenty ten, where I'm gonna have two

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Speaker 1: So my only reservation is, we started this exercise of

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Speaker 3: I mean, weren't weren't a six six two fifty seven.

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Speaker 1: That's the plan, right, and you would think at this

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Speaker 3: We want to try to trade up, see if we can.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's the first let's go. We're gonna let just

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna take shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Giants have pick thirty four.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm like the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Tookmari and Hampton though, Oh that's a good fit for them. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, let's resume here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the way I look at this, we still

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Speaker 1: And I know we're not gonna answer all those needs,

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Speaker 3: The next question is, Okay, we're up to fifty here.

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Speaker 3: So our pick, our pick is at fifty two. Jalen

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Speaker 3: Milroe is still there.

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Speaker 1: I think you make a move for that.

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Speaker 3: You want to try to go up and get him.

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Speaker 3: Seattle is on the clock here.

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Speaker 1: Wilson would be a really good mentor for him. I'm

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Speaker 1: much a point. I don't think you have a two signed.

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Speaker 1: Seattle should take them. But yeah, what what's the take

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Speaker 1: to go from there? I'm picks not gonna cut it.

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Speaker 3: No seventh round is not going to come. I might

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Speaker 3: I might have to give up next year's two or three.

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Speaker 3: At least you don't go up next year's two. I

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Speaker 3: might have to give up next year's three to go

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Speaker 3: up and get a quarterback, I think, because Seattle is

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Speaker 1: Sure, so we got.

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Speaker 3: Fifty two, we want fifty fifty two. Our next pick

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Speaker 3: is at eighty three. I'm going to offer them next

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Speaker 3: year's third.

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Speaker 1: I bet you could sprinkle in some bs and get

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Speaker 1: something like that too, or or their fifth or something

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Speaker 1: this year. That seems like a lot to move up

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Speaker 3: I get a future third pick two thirty seven and

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Speaker 3: pick fifty two for pick for picks fifty to two eleven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see what happens.

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Speaker 3: They took it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we'll grab Milroe.

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Speaker 3: We're taking Milroe. Well, now the Chargers want to offer

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Speaker 3: us picks fifty five and we're not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we trade it.

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Speaker 3: We just traded up for a guy. We moved up

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Speaker 3: to get a pick. All right, So we are taking

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Speaker 3: in the second round, Jaylen Milroe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're making massive strides, right or wrong, towards changing

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Speaker 1: our offense, a great deal in the explosiveness category, addressing

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Speaker 1: a problem.

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Speaker 3: So now we're cruising here through round three. Quarterback is

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Speaker 3: now obviously we're not taking another one of those. But

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Speaker 3: looking here at the guys still available. Oh there's a

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Speaker 3: nice name sitting out there.

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Speaker 1: Sits right now and two fourths. Yeah, the horizon here

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Speaker 1: and we are up.

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Speaker 3: And the top guys available Kenneth Grant really yeah.

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Speaker 1: The nose.

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Speaker 3: The nose.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's a nose though, So those guys do fall.

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Speaker 1: That seems unrealistic, you know, But he's three hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty pounds and those guys fall.

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Speaker 3: Jack Sawyer doesn't really fit the defense.

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Speaker 1: Was a good player for that boy. There's I did

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Speaker 1: a bunch of edge homework in the last forty really

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Speaker 1: good edges. It's like there's a ton of them. A

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Speaker 1: lot of them are going to be at the same

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Speaker 1: next thing. I say, there's a lot of the undetenable too.

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Speaker 3: There's another defensive tackle out there. I really like two

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Speaker 3: more of a three four end. But Matthew Golden is

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Speaker 3: there wide receiver out of Texas.

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Speaker 1: I like what I've seen from him quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: Mason Taylor the tight end at LSU one, Omar Norman

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Speaker 3: Lott the defensive tackle out of Tennessee. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you've done any homework now. I only know the

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Speaker 3: name right. He's about six five and three point thirty

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Speaker 3: and he gets after it. He's got a lot of

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Speaker 3: the what you look for at a three to four

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Speaker 3: defensive end, like the arms.

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Speaker 1: And the suggestion. Yes, if we were to take Golden

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Speaker 1: mh and monitor those two defensive tackles as trade up

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Speaker 1: scenarios with our two fours.

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Speaker 3: One of these has to be a running back.

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Speaker 1: Well, one needs to be a corner too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have way more needs than we have picks. But

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Speaker 1: that's why we have salary cap money. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: some of these would have been taken. Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 1: have to do that. I mean, we could take two picks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if we're just looking at who's the better

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Speaker 3: best player of this group, Kenneth Grant is the best player.

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Speaker 1: I think so. But I think Golden's going to go

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Speaker 1: high the more I watch him. Yeah, I think he's

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Speaker 1: a potential late first round. The running back still available.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's conm Cam Scattaboo from Arizona State, but

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Speaker 3: Sean Touton from Virginia Tech, Charles Smith from SMU. I

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Speaker 3: don't know that he's big enough to ride their ride.

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Speaker 3: He's smaller scatback type film offa from Clemson, kyal Manoge

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Speaker 3: from Rutgers, Raheem Sanders from South Carolina, Corey Kiner from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: Jordan James from Oregon, Olie Gordon from Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: That's as good as I thought.

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Speaker 3: Juck was a Hunter from Auburn. R. J. Harvey from UCF.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of drying up.

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Speaker 1: What do you leaning? I mean running back d line,

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Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about corners. Receivers are all glaring knees.

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Speaker 1: We took a tight end the quarterback. We really didn't

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Speaker 1: address our major needs. Yeah, right, so, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: why we're free agent money too.

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Speaker 3: But we're not gonna We're not gonna spend money on

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Speaker 3: a running back in free agency.

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Speaker 1: No, no, right.

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Speaker 3: Now, who you like kind of leading scatibo here? I

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Speaker 3: don't love the I mean Toton's okay, mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time passing on Grant.

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Speaker 3: I understand it, I get it. Do we need to

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Speaker 3: trade back up? I mean Grant, Graham and Grant. I

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Speaker 3: think Graham fields a huge need.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a pick.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to try to get back up now, But.

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Speaker 1: For who I want to come back up when your Scatterbo.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to get gold in that late too, but

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Speaker 1: my hunch is a will have a receiver.

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Speaker 3: Golden just went. So we're pick eighty nine Texans Chargers

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Speaker 3: Mason Taylor. All right, if it gets to one hundred

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Speaker 3: and Scatterbo is still there, yeah, magic number or whatever

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Speaker 3: the Browns just took him. Yeah, I think you hold

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Speaker 3: your water now, you hold your water and waits for

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Speaker 3: the corners and receivers, maybe a slot safety type corners

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Speaker 3: and her running back as well. Yeah, yeah, receivers.

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Speaker 1: The ship probably sailed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean technically we kind of filled the receiver

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Speaker 3: position with the tight end pick in a way. It's

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Speaker 3: just a different way of doing it. All right, we're

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Speaker 3: back up here now. So the top players available. Elijah a. Roho,

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Speaker 3: tight end out of Miami. He is a pass catching

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Speaker 3: Trey Moore edge rusher out of Texas. Jade and Roberts

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Speaker 3: guard from Alabama. Uh Luther Orlander Barton linebacker from Utah.

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Speaker 3: Phil MafA running back from Clemson. He's a physical runner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not bad.

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Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel, Charles Grant, Fadil Diggs, edge rusher out of Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: Is Grant the tackle, Yeah, okay, I like him too

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Speaker 1: as a project tackle. We got to address some needs though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: first two picks being diffew positions.

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Bassa, Malachi Moore, the safety out of Alabama. Jordan Phillips,

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Speaker 3: the defensive tackle from Maryland. Quincy Riley the cornerback from Louisville.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to take the Clemson back?

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Speaker 3: I think we got to address back.

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Speaker 1: We can't. Yeah, I mean other needs may have been filled,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to sign.

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Speaker 3: A back and for you, No, you're not going to draft.

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Speaker 1: You're going to draft the running back. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: no matter what parameters we put on these future mocks

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Speaker 1: that we do, I think you almost have to draft

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Speaker 1: the running back and everyone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, film Offo is the pick.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: I want to look at defense here. Cornerback, you got

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Speaker 3: Quincy Riley is Ia Alexander from l s U. Jason

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Speaker 3: McFarland junior from Florida, Mellow Dotson from Kansas, Jamari Harris

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Speaker 1: Kind of losing me on the name. I don't I

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Speaker 1: haven't done my research to know who I like of

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Speaker 1: the group, but I would definitely want to get a

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Speaker 1: corner at this spot.

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Speaker 3: Safety you got Malachi Moore Lathan Ransom out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: He's someone to watch tonight. I like what I've seen

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Speaker 1: from him. I don't know how slot capable he is,

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Speaker 1: but he's really smart and I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a good football player. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think I think he does place some slot stuff

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Speaker 3: for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very versatile and smart. Yeah, I just don't

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Speaker 3: I don't hate that.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean he's gonna be a demon on special

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Speaker 1: teams from day one too. Yeah. If we operate on

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Speaker 1: the assumption that he can be slot capable, I'm on it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why wide receiver saving on Williams is there from TCU.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Knowle from Iowa State, Theo Wiese Junior from Missouri,

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Speaker 3: Kobe Hudson from UCF, Jack Beck from TCU, Pat Bryant

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite in that group? Back? Maybe? Back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of leaned towards taking my like Lathan

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fine with that. I think that's a very

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Speaker 1: safe pick there. Someone to watch it, Ohio State Safety.

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Speaker 1: So we have a drought here then, right.

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Speaker 3: Well a little bit where you have. We have a

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Speaker 3: I traded that away.

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Speaker 1: We got no wet.

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Speaker 3: We do have a drought. We have picks to eleven

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Speaker 3: and two twenty six. We do have a bit of

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Speaker 3: a drought here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the problem

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Speaker 3: that you have when you start moving. Oh no, we

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Speaker 3: get one at one sixty two. I'm wrong. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: showing at the next picks, it was showing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to know the names here. I'm just.

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to learn some of these guys here. And

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Speaker 3: again it may be more position. Yeah, what do you

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Speaker 3: what do you do now? If you've taken If that's

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Speaker 3: what you've done, all right, we're up here now. Uh

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Speaker 3: just looking here. A couple of defensive linemen out there.

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Speaker 3: They are interesting to me. We did take we took

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Speaker 3: We filled the nose tackle position.

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Speaker 1: Any kind of corner would be of interest, even a

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Speaker 1: short slot compete with Beanie guy, but preferably an outside

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Speaker 1: at this stage, I don't want little receivers, but any

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Speaker 3: Well, Savion Williams is still there, and he is not

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take care.

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Speaker 1: I think that's an easy one. Yeah. Yeah, And really,

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Speaker 1: I don't think taking a tight end in this neighborhood,

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Speaker 1: if we hadn't, would be crazy, because it looks like

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Speaker 1: it's a really look like it's a good tight end

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Speaker 1: this class, in this neck of the woods. And here's

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Speaker 1: something I'll throw at you too. It's probably more of

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Speaker 1: a seventh round thing. I could see them drafting two

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Speaker 1: running backs in this class. I would, yeah, not if

446
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Speaker 1: they take Hampton or you know, Gen Ti or somebody

447
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Speaker 1: like that. But if you take third or fourth rounder

448
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Speaker 1: and then you throw in a seventh round guy, that

449
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Speaker 1: should be a fifth round pick. I don't think that's crazy. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is either, because he'll play teams.

451
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Speaker 1: He'll play teams. Maybe he's maybe he's one of your

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Speaker 1: return guys. Might be a kick returner and that's something.

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Speaker 1: And he could be a little guy. He could be

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Speaker 1: one ninety scat back throwing the ball guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, just something different than.

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Speaker 1: What you have. Or you could be a pounder. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna take three into you know you three? All right?

458
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Speaker 3: So Joey Slackman defensive tackle out of Florida, Teddy Buchanan

459
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Speaker 3: linebacker from California, tight end Gavin Bartholomew from Pitt j

460
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Speaker 3: Cory Brooks wide receiver from Louisville, Devin Neil from Kansas

461
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Speaker 3: And that fits a Bill. That's I think you do

462
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Speaker 3: it right. That's exactly what we were looking for. And

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Speaker 3: I think your last.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of instances in history where the

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Speaker 1: guy drafted behind the guy.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Jones I think was the third running back that

467
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Speaker 3: said at least a second running back.

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Speaker 1: They won the seventh round two. Yeah, he quickly took

469
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Speaker 1: Game three that year. Yeah, Mark Andrews one pass Hayden Hurst.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of times were the second

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Speaker 1: guy drafted at the position was just too good to

472
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Speaker 1: pass up and passes the one ahead.

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Speaker 3: All right, So our pick is now, but to twenty six,

474
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Speaker 3: and we're going to take Gerald Christian Lichton and offensive

475
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Speaker 3: tackle from Oregon State.

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Speaker 1: By me, first, I've heard of him, but project tackle

477
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Speaker 1: is cool by me.

478
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Speaker 3: Name someone who's never been in Mets kitchen.

479
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is, but I promised.

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Speaker 3: Too soon offensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, They're gonna need a third tackle at

482
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Speaker 1: some point. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Although JJ pegwis out of a defensive tackle from Old Miss,

484
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: was there too? Defensive tackle in that spot isn't the

485
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Speaker 3: worst thing either. No, big guy, Just take a big guy. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 3: somebody that's big, athletic, an athletic, big guy. That's what

487
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Speaker 3: you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: You are.

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Speaker 3: Our draft is almost done here. People are probably gonna

490
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Speaker 3: hate this one.

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Speaker 1: It's an odd one. I mean, going tight end quarterback

492
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Speaker 1: is weird.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't a receiver to take there though.

494
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Speaker 1: No, no, and well there's a chance they already had,

495
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Speaker 1: and we traded down.

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Speaker 3: The corner that we probably would have taken there was gone.

497
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Speaker 1: The little mocks I've done makes me think spending money

498
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: on a receiver makes more and more sense.

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm kind of at right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think outside corner and receiver or two spots.

501
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Speaker 1: I'm very open to spending real money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So we ended up at twenty two after trading

503
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Speaker 3: down with Tyler Warren, the tight end from Penn State. Again,

504
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Speaker 3: look at him as a big slot.

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Speaker 1: Fifty pick up any future picks, right, we lost one.

506
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Speaker 3: We traded one way, yeah, yeah, hopefully get our course

507
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Speaker 3: to get Jaylen Milroe. We traded up to go get him.

508
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Speaker 3: So we traded down in the first round, traded up

509
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Speaker 3: in the second at eighty three. We took Kenneth Grant.

510
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Speaker 3: That was great value there. Yeah, but again he's a

511
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Speaker 3: nose tackle. Yeah yeah, we still not can play a

512
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Speaker 3: ton of snaps, but right, we took it one twenty

513
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Speaker 3: one film Offa the running back from Clemson. We then

514
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Speaker 3: took it one twenty three Laythan the Ransom, the safety

515
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Speaker 3: from Ohio State, could be our slot at the very least.

516
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Speaker 3: He's going to play a lot of special teams. And

517
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Speaker 3: we played a.

518
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Speaker 1: Lot of three seats, probably your third safety.

519
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Speaker 3: We played some three safety packages last year, and again

520
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: it gives you some flexibility.

521
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Speaker 1: Some youth at safety.

522
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Speaker 3: Two save On Williams, the wide receiver from TCU.

523
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Speaker 1: That was good value.

524
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Speaker 3: To two to eleven. We took Devin Neil, the running

525
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Speaker 3: back from Kansas doubled up and running back, and Girard

526
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Speaker 3: Christian Lichton and the offense wive tackle from Oregon State.

527
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Speaker 3: Gotta have a girard on your team, right and you one. Anyways,

528
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Speaker 3: that was our try from today tomorrow, we'll take a

529
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Speaker 3: look at this and we'll say, Okay, Justin Fields is

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Speaker 3: the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: How does that change things? It wouldn't have changed my

532
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Speaker 1: mill Row situation, not one bit. Yeah right, I mean

533
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Speaker 1: they'd be very different. Milroe would run the field's offense

534
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Speaker 1: basically to a t. Where Milroe is going to learn

535
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Speaker 1: from the veteran in this state.

536
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Speaker 3: And Milroe might do some of the things that you

537
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Speaker 3: did with fields this year. If the is a quarterback,

538
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Speaker 3: I would think quite a bit, right, Yeah, you would

539
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Speaker 3: have a mill Roe package, I.

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Speaker 1: Think so, and a mentor not in the field to

541
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Speaker 1: be a bad mentor. But Wilson's an ideal man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know so. I wouldn't change my thoughts on him

543
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Speaker 1: either way.

544
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Speaker 3: No me either. Anyways, we're well overdue for a break here,

545
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Speaker 3: let's get that in. He is the Matt Williamson. I

546
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Speaker 3: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 3: that very much, so, Matt. I was looking at ESPN

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Speaker 3: UH and they had things for all the eliminated teams

567
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Speaker 3: and yeah.

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Speaker 1: They add new ones every week, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And they had the Steelers with I think about six

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Speaker 3: million dollars in cap space and that doesn't jibe with

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Speaker 3: anything that I've seen.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a misprint out there.

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Speaker 3: I think it's yeah, I think it's wrong. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: on spot track now and they're showing the Steelers for

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Speaker 3: next year with forty five point four seven eight million

576
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 3: dollars in cap space right now, right as things sit

577
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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: And that's with Prestt Smith on the roster and guys

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Speaker 1: like that. Well, that's what we're going to do, I know.

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Speaker 3: So looking ahead here and again we're not advocating for

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Speaker 3: any of these guys to get cut or anything like that,

582
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Speaker 3: but this is just what kind of cap space the

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Speaker 3: Steelers could create if they so chose.

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Speaker 1: What every team does, like when you trade for a guy,

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Speaker 1: like when the Jets traded for Devonte Adams. They know

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Speaker 1: they're going to cut it. Yeah, you know, that's why

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00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: they're moving on from.

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00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: So right now, we're at forty three point four to

589
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Speaker 3: seven eight million dollars in cap space. Okay, if we

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Speaker 3: were to release.

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Speaker 1: Preston Smith, doesn't mean it won't be back, but you're

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Speaker 1: going to Really, I think they're going to release them.

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Speaker 3: It gets you twelve point five to six million in

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Speaker 3: cap space.

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Speaker 1: It's a ton It's well worth it. He's your fourth

596
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Speaker 1: outside linebacker. You know. I'd consider bringing them back at

597
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: the right price, But.

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Speaker 3: Actually it saved us thirteen point four million dollars in

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00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: cap space. We could also on here, resign or extend

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Speaker 3: those guys. No, okay, we're not going to play that game. Yes,

601
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Speaker 3: this is just to give you an idea of what

602
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: kind of cap space they could create with just with

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Speaker 3: some simple moves. That gets them the fifty six million

604
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: dollars in cap space, just with that one, just that

605
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: one move. Uh, Cale Holcom didn't play it down for

606
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Speaker 3: us this year. So let's say we don't want to

607
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Speaker 3: bring him back.

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Speaker 1: I have mixed feelings on that one, because I think

609
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Speaker 1: he's a good player in his contract. I'm not sure

610
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Speaker 1: what it is, but I don't think it's crazy. I

611
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Speaker 1: wouldn't mind going down to camp with all four of

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Speaker 1: those guys with seven point six four million. I know

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00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: it's much year, but Roberts is up. I mean you

614
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: could run it back with three inside linebackers and make

615
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: it Hulk THEMB instead of Roberts. Yeah, but I think

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00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: the right move is to release them.

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Speaker 3: And again we're just speculating here on what that would

618
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: what that would do, So to release him would gain us.

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Speaker 3: Now we would have sixty one point two million dollars in.

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Speaker 1: Real quick on hulk them. I don't think anybody would

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Speaker 1: give you a pick he didn't play last year because

622
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Speaker 1: he didn't play, and he's not cheap.

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Speaker 3: He saves you six million dollars and that's worth it.

624
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: So now you're at sixty one point two million dollars

625
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: in cap space. Nice anybody else that you want to

626
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Speaker 3: consider stroking joby.

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Speaker 1: I know he's making a good buck. I don't know

628
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: the numbers, but I know he's making a good buck.

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Speaker 3: He counts next year ten point five million dollars against

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Speaker 3: your cat a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not young, rarely practices on Wednesdays. He's

632
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: a good player, but he is not a difference maker.

633
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Speaker 1: We're planning on drafting a D lineman. Benton could be

634
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Speaker 1: your Rogan Jobie, if you draft the nose. Yeah, I

635
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Speaker 1: think that's one.

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Speaker 3: I think there's one that's probably a little bit easier

637
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: than that doesn't save you quite as much money. But

638
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Speaker 3: Cordero Patterson.

639
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a That's what I'm doing, no matter what.

640
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: And so to release him saves you an additional.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a shock. They signed him a two

642
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Speaker 1: year deal.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that two point eight million dollars. Now

644
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: you're at sixty three point one five million dollars in

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Speaker 3: cap space.

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Speaker 1: With three three moves, three moves that don't make you

647
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Speaker 1: really a noselely worse football team either. Let's say you

648
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Speaker 1: were to sign we're gonna sign a quarterback. You're gonna

649
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Speaker 1: sign eight quarterback, right, You're still gonna have twenty five

650
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Speaker 1: thirty million dollars in cap space available, regardless of who

651
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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 3: No matter what you do, a quarterback can you create

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Speaker 3: Let's let's let's say they stop there, all right, Let's

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Speaker 3: say they don't do anything. They don't do the Ogan

655
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: joby all right, So now what can you do? Well,

656
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: you could convert some of Cam Hayworth's Cam Hayward just

657
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: signed a new deal.

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00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Quick question for you while you're on there. Do you

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00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: have two punters under contract? Now?

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Speaker 3: Yes, you do.

661
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Okay, that's you're not gonna take. You might take two

662
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: to camp, but.

663
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: That's when you you'll create that space that neither one

664
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: of those guys is making enough money that it's gonna.

665
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: It's not gonna change things. Dramatic. Yeah, but I just

666
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: couldn't remember if Weightman was also under contract. I believe

667
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: I think they both are. I think he is, and

668
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: they both are.

669
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: Corlis Weightman's making one point one million.

670
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean, these are the moves you make in like

671
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: camp time.

672
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you want to do him a solid and

673
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: give him a chance, and that would depend on Cameron

674
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: Johnston's health.

675
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: To assume he's health.

676
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: He's three point four million.

677
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: That's not gonna you would cut Johnston if.

678
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: You think Weightment's better. But they had that opportunity last

679
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: spring and they said.

680
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean unless they Johnston's never going to be the

681
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: same because of injury.

682
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if we do a little conversion with Cam Hayward, Yeah, I.

683
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: Think you had an easy conversation with him.

684
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: We can lower his cap hit if we go an

685
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: extra I don't know how this works here, but it

686
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 3: with h three voidable years or two voidable years, two

687
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: voidable years, let's say two voidable years. Well, that now

688
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: saved US ten million dollars against ten point four million

689
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: dollars against the cap.

690
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: And it doesn't hurt you that much kicking the can

691
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: down the road at all, not even if he retires

692
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: after next year. I think we all think he's coming back.

693
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: He hasn't announced that.

694
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: But now you're at seventy three point six million dollars

695
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: in cap space and.

696
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: Really haven't lost anything player wise.

697
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: No, yeah, right, you haven't lost a starter.

698
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: No, or a significant contributor.

699
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's that's just that's just with with Yeah,

700
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: you didn't have last year only President Smith for precious

701
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: Smith played one hundred and months forty plays for you.

702
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: In Cordell Patterson. We just did a mock draft where

703
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: we took two running backs. You replaced that in the draft.

704
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way you can pay.

705
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: Him, and we created an additional thirty four to thirty

706
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: three million dollars in cap space.

707
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: I think you could also go to T J. Watt

708
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: too and have a conversation.

709
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna probably that would be an extension.

710
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna want a year or two on there. Yeah,

711
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: but I mean you can move money around extend him.

712
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: Are there any other extensions looming?

713
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: They've got some there that.

714
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: Maybe Warren, but I know he's restricted. That makes things

715
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: a little weird. But I was, I was like signing

716
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 1: restricted guys because they haven't made much in there.

717
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: So here here are the guys that still have or

718
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: just have one year left on her deals. Ogan Jobi

719
00:33:52,200 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: sam Malu, Miles Killerbrew, George Pickens, Deshaun Elliott, uh Monrevius Adams,

720
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: Dean Lowry.

721
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: There's two there that I'm thinking.

722
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: Marvin lel uh Calvin Austin. I would think about extending

723
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: Calvin Austin, and he wouldn't be a priority, wouldn't be expensive. No,

724
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be a priority much this year either. No,

725
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: he's he's making one point two this year.

726
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: It'd be nice to have him to know he's gonna

727
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: be here for it.

728
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: But he's been a good enough player that I'd be

729
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 3: interested in doing that.

730
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Pickens is a massive different conversation. That's a whole segment plus,

731
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: but some of there's another name on there.

732
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: Oh, Elliott I would get Yeah, I would consider extending Elliott.

733
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to. No, you know, if

734
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: you want to attack on another year or whatever, that.

735
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: Would But his his cap hit this year is just

736
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: three point seventy five.

737
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: Alliot gains you right, Yeah, he's not breaking the bank

738
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: either way. Does Boswell have a weird contract that you

739
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: can have?

740
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: He has two years nine point four to six million

741
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: dollars left?

742
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: Okay, they must have done that recently.

743
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: It was I think last year, I believe. So, Yeah,

744
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: he's making four point seven this year.

745
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Just live with it, right, Yeah, that's a bargain.

746
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 3: So we just created I mean, just with a few

747
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: simple moves, we're seventy three point five almost six million dollars.

748
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 3: Seventy three point six million.

749
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: If you were to do the ogun jobie, you're well

750
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: over eighty too, right, yeah.

751
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: If you then really, if you then release, now you're

752
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: also creating an open sir.

753
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: Now you need to fill. Yeah, you created a need.

754
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: That's that's the problem that I would have with doing

755
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: that one. But if you released him, he's three point

756
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: five and dead money, but it would create an additional.

757
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm not looking to extend him after right now. I

758
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: bet I would consider that only gets you seven million,

759
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: so that gets you to like eighty Yeah, so.

760
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's enough to make that one

761
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: mm hmm necessarily something that I would Hey, yeah, you

762
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: got to do that.

763
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that's a no brainer.

764
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: I think there's other more. Yeah, I think there's other

765
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: stuff that you can do there that that makes more.

766
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: And one of the kickers is going to go you

767
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: think they extend what or is that another year away?

768
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: No, he's got one year one your left. No, so

769
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 3: he's up after that, he's up after he's up after

770
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six seasons or twenty twenty five seasons.

771
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Saying him could create a lot of space, Well.

772
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's he counts thirty point four million dollars

773
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: against your cap now. Yeah, anything that you extended him

774
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: will be like the Hayward deal where you you know,

775
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 3: you you decreased.

776
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: They have the capability of doing that on there.

777
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got to come up with the numbers

778
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: and all that. Yeah, you have to do the extension

779
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: and customize it and all that stuff, and I don't

780
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's worth.

781
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't either. I mean at his age is

782
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: he's I'm sure he'll get a pay run.

783
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: Let's let's say it's an extension five thirty five.

784
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's making thirty now customize yeah. Uh so

785
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: let's say two years seventy five or two years seventy Let's.

786
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 3: Say three years just for and we'll throw avoidable year

787
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 3: now because that's just what you do with everybody now, guys.

788
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: But you know what is the new value? Three years

789
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: at thirty five is three years at one hundred, one

790
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: hundred and five. I mean he is not young. I

791
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: mean he's not like investing in Michael Parsons. I would

792
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: think his contracts will be less than Parsons. Yeah, but

793
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: he's still been your team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we want

794
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 3: to make uh, let's say forty million of that signing bonus.

795
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: That sound fair, might even be light, but yeah, I

796
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: can go forty five and just make it an even

797
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: fifteen million per year.

798
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: There you go, just to make it easy. And I

799
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: know these aren't going to be the numbers, but we're right, we're.

800
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: Just throwing it out there to see. The new cap

801
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: hit would be nineteen point six million. So again, you

802
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: just created eleven million dollars in cap space by extending.

803
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: By extending your best player, yeah, which I bet they do. Yeah,

804
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean I can't imagine him becoming a lame duck, right, Yeah,

805
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you can structure it, you can make

806
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: it even more appealing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're better at

807
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: that than we are.

808
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's also lowering the base salary to one

809
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: point two five five million because he's also getting a

810
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: fort he's getting a forty five million dollar check. That's

811
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: why a player wants to do that.

812
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: That's why Cam said, Yes, that's why, right.

813
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: Right, So if we if we do, if we did that,

814
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: made that move, Now you got ninety point five million

815
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: dollars in cap space. Now again, this is not our

816
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: money that we're doing this.

817
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Stuff, right, right, but but we look at it like

818
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: monopoly money.

819
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, you can easily create the space, the

820
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: cap space to do what you want to do. Sign

821
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: a receiver, sign a quarterback, maybe sign a cornerback in

822
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 3: free agency, and then.

823
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: You fill in the gaps because there's going to be

824
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: a lot of two million dollar deals like the Michael

825
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: Pruert signing and Van Jefferson, or maybe you bring back

826
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: a land and Roberts or things of that nature. I mean,

827
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: there's not many upcoming free agents other than Roberts that

828
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to bring back and listen, you know.

829
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: I mean, but but there.

830
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: Will be other players of that ilk available in the market.

831
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: But that's the way roster. That's why I brought up Jefferson.

832
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: Improve it, Like, there's gona be guys like that for

833
00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: this year.

834
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: The league has tended is trended towards that over the

835
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: last few years, where teams are willing more willing than

836
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 3: they ever were before to sign guys to one year

837
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: deals or two year deals. Absolutely that never used to

838
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 3: be the case. Like you got a free agent deals

839
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: at least three.

840
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: Like very easily. I think you could sign your quarterback

841
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: of choice, even if it's Arnold. But let's say it's

842
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: one of the two here, let's go down that road.

843
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: And a legit starting corner and sit or receiver. Legit

844
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: legit I mean, like starter all day long on any team,

845
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: close to the top of the market type guy. Now, the

846
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: problem is you got to compete You're not the only

847
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: team that wants to hit Rings or Godwin or Adams

848
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: or Murphy or DJ Reid or you know, there's teams

849
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: that have more money than you and are probably not

850
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: as smart with their money as you. That'll throw it around.

851
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you're gonna get them.

852
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: There also will be guys who are cut loose.

853
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: There'll be more names out there like Adams, I mean

854
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: right now, he's not a free agent, but he will be.

855
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, right where you know, Javon Hargrave, Who's

856
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 3: gonna be cut these guys, this is gonna happen. And

857
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: to me, those guys are more valuable because you don't

858
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: lose in the comp game for that.

859
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that absolutely, yeah is at play. Yeah, so they're

860
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna they can They're definitely gonna add more than they're

861
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: gonna lose.

862
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And again, you know with some other stuff that

863
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 3: you know, you can go to Friarmouth and create cap space.

864
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: Them.

865
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just again, just.

866
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: Any of the guys you signed recently, any of your

867
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: foundational players, you can do that with.

868
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get just a simple restructure with Friarmuth creates

869
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: seven million dollars in cap space. Could your restructure, Queen,

870
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 3: you could do that too.

871
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: He just signed mena.

872
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: Makeas deals a little bit older, so probably not, but

873
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: just a simple.

874
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: Correct to put it in a year or two on mencas.

875
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, just going simple conversion on on Queen and creates

876
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: about three million dollars.

877
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: Says the cost I think's gonna make the team either way.

878
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know right, Firearmouth saves you seven point two

879
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: million dollars like they built this.

880
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Speaker 1: Check now as opposed every week.

881
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now you're at a hundred one hundred point

882
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: eight million dollars in cap space.

883
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Right, you get the hundred pretty easy. Yeah. And that

884
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: wasn't even making the Ogunjobi move.

885
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was only cutting three guys who Hunter moved.

886
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah right, who may or may not be in your

887
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: plans and restructuring.

888
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: Some guys are going to be here the way. Yeah,

889
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: and you extended what now you knock that off the

890
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: the do list? Ye? Not so bad, not so bad? Right? Yeah.

891
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: Again, the mad.

892
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: News is the Patriots, the Chargers, they're already one hundred.

893
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean you're still not number one.

894
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: No, but you're but you have a lot of You're

895
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: also a better team than those guys than those.

896
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: Starting in New England. Yeah, yeah, without question. But yeah,

897
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: you're you would You're already close to the top of

898
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: the league, but you and you're not going to outbid

899
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: some teams that are insane.

900
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Speaker 3: And that's I mean, but that's the case every year.

901
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's a completely different conversation. It is that

902
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: does the player want to live in that area? Does it?

903
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: You know a fit? You have the same guys, right,

904
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna get every free agent target.

905
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: Want a guy like Patrick Queen? Does he not want

906
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: to leave the AFC North because he wants to stick

907
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: it to his old team? That that kind of right, right?

908
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: You know, maybe t Higgins doesn't want to leave the

909
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: AFC North. Maybe he wants to play the Bengals every

910
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: year and show them what they're what they're missing.

911
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: You know, that might be the time breaker. Yeah. Yeah,

912
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: so there's all that flexibilities. Phenomenal absolutely Uh.

913
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Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

914
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly and this is the drive on

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Speaker 3: the Steelers audio networking. Again.

916
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: We are not our specialty here.

917
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: Now, we're not saying then these guys should be cut again.

918
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: I'm using spot tractor just to it just shows you

919
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Speaker 3: that you can create cap space if you want.

920
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're still pretty far away from fifty three

921
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: man roster too. I mean you would have draft picks

922
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: coming in, but you're also losing fifteen to twenty free

923
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: agents off your roster. This just takes all that into account.

924
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: You know, you're going to replace her, some cap replacement

925
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: from some of those guys at the bottom of the

926
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Speaker 3: of the roster.

927
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: Somebody like Spending. You're gonna have to have a third tackle,

928
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: a little Raven Clark or something that makes two million

929
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: a year or something like that too. Those guys start

930
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: adding up for sure, you know.

931
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Speaker 3: Sure. But let's take a break. We'll be back with more.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson.

933
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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly.

934
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Speaker 3: This is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.

935
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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

936
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

937
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

938
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: And we are back on Dale Lolly. He is the

939
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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and a couple of Hirings. Just to finish

940
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: up the shirt. We covered a lot of ground day.

941
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: Oh say man, this hour got away from us.

942
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Speaker 1: Here.

943
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: Holy Smokes covered a lot of ground fixing the Steelers.

944
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked a little bit of stuff over the weekend,

945
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: and we got a national title game that I am

946
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: site in the National Title game.

947
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: Watch that. So, as we mentioned earlier in the show,

948
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: it looks like Ben Johnson will be the next head

949
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: coach of the Chicago Bears.

950
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

951
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting that he would take a job within the.

952
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: Division, a really difficult division.

953
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: When you were you were the fourth best team in

954
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: said division this year.

955
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I mean it's an attractive job.

956
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: You must be high on Caleb Williams, which I understand.

957
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of work to be done there. Man.

958
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: I've been saying all along, if I'm the Bears new Hire,

959
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: we're adding big people. I want guards, I want centers,

960
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: I want defensive tackles. We don't need all the glitz

961
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: and glamour anymore. Give me blockers.

962
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me big dudes.

963
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Maybe big dudes because we play in Chicago.

964
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Speaker 3: The Cults are also hiring Loui Anroumo as a defensive

965
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: quarter O.

966
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Speaker 1: That's a big difference. I think that's a really good

967
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: move for them. They were the most vanilla defense in

968
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: the league and you can't do that anymore. You just can't. Yeah,

969
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a good hire. I didn't know that good.

970
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 3: Okay, So two of the big hirings out of the

971
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: way there. We'll see what continues to happen be here

972
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: around the league, to see some more of these as

973
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: we get closer to the conference championships.

974
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Speaker 1: And a bunch of coaches just got a.

975
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: Bunch of coaches just got.

976
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah Monkin and both the Lions guys, one of whom

977
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: hooked on, you know. And there'll be a lot more.

978
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, So we'll continue to track all that and

979
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: see what happens here. But oh, by the way, the

980
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: Chris Boyd push in the Houston game.

981
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: I would have said, go to the locker room. There's

982
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: a ticket for American Airlines waiting for you. We'll pay

983
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: for it, and I never want to see you again.

984
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah you were not.

985
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: Since then, he has a ton of special teams penalties

986
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: through his career. What are you doing? I mean, we're trying.

987
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: That's like setting the tone for the whole game too, folks.

988
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: That is acting up on the sideline.

989
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: Oh man, like you.

990
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: Shoved you, you physically assaulted your a position coach.

991
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Speaker 1: I mean if it was Stingley, Nico Collins or Stroud

992
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: or Tunsil or one of their best players, I would

993
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: have been like, we might have to not put you

994
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Speaker 1: back on the field. Yeah, let alone if it's him.

995
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah bye, I mean I'm sorry.

996
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Mecca Ryan's actually said that that wasn't disrespectful.

997
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Speaker 1: Sure looked at from the camera.

998
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: From my shoved you like that. Would that have been disrespectful?

999
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I know some guys dudes are like, oh yeah,

1000
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: it's like this was not that was not that, This

1001
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: was not that. I assume he chewed Boyd's but yeah,

1002
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: for doing dumb stuff.

1003
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Speaker 3: A fifteen yard penalty for slamming his helmet on the ground.

1004
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: Which was really dumb. Yeah right, And I'm sure his

1005
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: coach chewed him out, as coaches tend to do. He's

1006
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: a special teams coach. You just gave up a long

1007
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: kick return.

1008
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: To open the game in Kansas City, got a fifteen

1009
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: yard penalty on top of that.

1010
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: You're the last guy I need to be worried about

1011
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: in this situation. I'm worried about that. Mahomes Fellow, Right, Yeah,

1012
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: here's a ticket on American Go home.

1013
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're not a good enough player to get

1014
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: away with that. I don't know who is.

1015
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Speaker 1: Few, very few, I mean, no one should do it, period,

1016
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: but right, I mean, yeah, that's glood he wrote up.

1017
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just was looking here at some headlines.

1018
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: I like, yeah, I forgot about that.

1019
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so much.

1020
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Speaker 3: It was so far ago. On Saturday. Was the first

1021
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: game Saturday, Like, did you see this too? That was

1022
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 3: the most viewed game in the history of the NFL. Wow,

1023
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: nothing else going on that? Yeah, college hoops.

1024
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: The league is flourishing. Yeah, imagine what's coming up.

1025
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but that's going to do it for the show today, Matt, Yeah,

1026
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Speaker 3: good one.

1027
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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. We will be back tomorrow, as we will be

1029
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Speaker 3: the rest of the week. And so for my partner

1030
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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here running the Justin Miller

1031
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Speaker 3: hotline and the soundboard, and for Tyler viitt Meyer making

1032
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Speaker 3: sure our video makes it out there onto YouTube. I'm

1033
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Speaker 3: Dale Lelly. We thank you for listening to this edition

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Speaker 3: of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.