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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: Woo whoo? And them and Tye welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: That guy over there, way way over there in sunny

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Speaker 1: how you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, Ty. It's nice to have the sun. It's

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm in Maxi's room.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful. Well, it's good to speak with you as well.

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Speaker 1: off season continues to heat up, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about. We've been talking a lot about the

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Speaker 1: that's all important, don't get me wrong. But when you

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Speaker 1: about meteor rights and numbers and money and people's eyes

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Speaker 1: or in this case, ears tend to glaze over. That's

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Speaker 1: not exactly exciting listening by any stretch. So today today

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Speaker 1: we decided maybe we're going to heat things up a

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Speaker 1: little bit and get to a topic that is near

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Speaker 1: and dear to all of our hearts, whether you're a

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Speaker 1: college football fan or frankly an NFL fan. Dan, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna start talking about the NFL Draft just a little, just.

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Speaker 3: A smitch, yeah, and not necessarily because I know anything

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Speaker 3: about the NFL and teams needs and draft value and

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Speaker 3: anything that would relate to oh, I could see Bryce

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Speaker 3: Young projecting a like this type of player in this

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Speaker 3: type of NFL system being protected by lines that shift

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Speaker 3: in slide and this.

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Speaker 2: Nope, that's not a thing I have.

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Speaker 3: I barely have college knowledge, as anybody who listens to

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Speaker 3: the show can attest. I don't watch the NFL until

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. And I really can't help you out in

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Speaker 3: terms of how Darnell Washington fits in, you know, twelve

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Speaker 3: personnel in the NFC East or something. But I think

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Speaker 3: we should use this opportunity, as reporters say, like, look,

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Speaker 3: we empty the notebook right like we're going to empty

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Speaker 3: the tank, canon, the take canon. Excuse me when talking

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Speaker 3: about some of the more higher profile guys and say,

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Speaker 3: here's how I feel about this player now that he

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Speaker 3: how this is his legacy to me, Dan or to

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Speaker 3: you Tie.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: It does? And you know this because we've been doing

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Speaker 1: there is this natural source of conflict between college football

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Speaker 1: versus the draft knicks who try to project how some

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Speaker 1: And a recent example, albeit a bit of a problematic

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had who do we have on last year?

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Speaker 3: Who actually he knows this stuff from the NFL SA

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Speaker 3: Nate Tice from the Athletic Right. Yeah, we've had Nate Tyson.

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Speaker 2: But did you watch any clips from the combine this?

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Speaker 1: That is actually a perfect segue to kick this thing.

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Speaker 1: That is a pro segue. Dan, if you are ready to.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's what we're gonna do. So we're gonna go through.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna name all these guys, and then if you

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Speaker 1: So it's a pass fail if they pass, if you'd

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Speaker 1: want them on your team. Ooh okay, nice little sound.

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Speaker 1: If you wouldn't. That maybe a little over dramatic, but

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Speaker 1: the scouting reports. They see a potential Cam Newton. Dan Sure,

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Speaker 1: all the measurables. But as for watching Anthony Richardson as

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Speaker 3: The best of Anthony Richardson at Florida, So whether that

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Speaker 3: ability to turn a seven yard run into a ninety

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: The ability to wasn't a great throw, but it was

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Speaker 3: what NFL teams see and Anthony Richardson, sure, But with

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Speaker 3: He was great with the Bears. He was actually excellent

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Speaker 2: I think yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean some people have had him as high as

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Speaker 3: Wow, the experience of being a Florida fan, which I'm

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Speaker 3: excellence at any given moment. Transcendent excellence or throwing one

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Speaker 3: I worry that there's a little bit of makes the

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, That to me is his legacy where he

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Speaker 1: Probably. Yeah. Well, look, I mean there's a reason they

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. I love the kid. We did a show

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three? I said Anthony Richardson. I said

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Speaker 1: there's no question about the big playability. He is exciting

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Speaker 1: to watch the best of Anthony Richardson is really freaking exciting.

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Speaker 2: What do you have to prove? Nothing to prove?

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Speaker 3: You know, I would really hesitate unless he got a

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Speaker 3: So I'm I want to believe, right the old X files, right,

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Speaker 3: it's time, It was.

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Speaker 1: Time, it was time. All right, Where do you want

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Speaker 2: Let's stay quarterback. Let's go Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young dan five ten and one eighth inches tall,

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Speaker 1: is not anything that Bryce Young did in his brief

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Speaker 3: As would I. I would take Bryce Young for the

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Speaker 3: I largely feel like an injured Bryce Young and a

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Speaker 3: Now, that's or at least compete for, at least find

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Speaker 3: as much maybe the size, like, yes, you're five ten

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a long time since we've had somebody

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Speaker 3: He was able to get away with both literally and figuratively,

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Speaker 3: So I think that's going to be an acclamation because

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Speaker 1: With the hardware. He threw eighty touchdowns to twelve interceptions

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Speaker 1: You know, he has had some injury history already in

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Speaker 1: his time in the league, and so I think it's

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Speaker 1: a fair point to raise. With respect to Bryce Young,

437
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Speaker 1: I just keep coming back to what we saw out there.

438
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Speaker 1: He's incredibly mature, and his ability to understand the offense

439
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Speaker 1: right away, right away first year as a full time starter,

440
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Speaker 1: right away understood it, picked it up, was like a

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Speaker 1: second coach out on the field. His ability to scramble

442
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Speaker 1: to buy time, I think is not something you can teach. Again,

443
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Speaker 1: keeping his eyes down the field makes him very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: He's the type of guy that you time and again

445
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Speaker 1: would say, well, we left him too much time left

446
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: in too much time. His command in the offense, always

447
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: knowing where guys are, being able to adjust on the

448
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: flyes is something that will definitely put him at and

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Speaker 1: I think a great advantage as he moves on to

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Speaker 1: whatever team he will be drafted in the first round,

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Speaker 1: he should be. I think somebody would be very happy

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Speaker 1: with him. I get where you're.

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Speaker 3: If your team, if your team were drafting a quarterback, though,

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Speaker 3: if your team is the Giants, correct.

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Speaker 1: I would I've said before, I would take Bryce Young.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would take Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: And look the ability on a certain level that he

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Speaker 3: is going to be asked for. He will be contained

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Speaker 3: within a pocket to go through progressions at five ten

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Speaker 3: and look, guys have done it. You know, whether it's

462
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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson. It's more difficult to

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Speaker 3: look over the heads of a six to seven left

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Speaker 3: tackle or something, sure, when you're five to ten than

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Speaker 3: when you are when you're six four sixty five. It's

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Speaker 3: just there's a difference. There is an arm angle thing,

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Speaker 3: there is a footwork thing. It's a it's more difficult.

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Speaker 3: The degree of difficulty is there. If you believe that

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Speaker 3: he can do it, and you're a Giants fan, who

470
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Speaker 3: am I to tell you? But it's just I'm just

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Speaker 3: saying it's there's more on his plate at that size

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Speaker 3: than there would be if you it's a little bit taller.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely a challenge, but I'm in on it, man.

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Speaker 2: Okay, same, I think so same?

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Speaker 1: All right? Where do you want to go? Next?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to go? Let's just round out quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: We got a couple more quarterbacks, right, We've got Will

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Speaker 3: Levis and CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to c J Stroud next.

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Speaker 2: Let's do.

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Speaker 1: Let's do c J Stroud. The comp that I saw

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Speaker 1: was Jared Goff Jared Goff c J. Stroud's six three

484
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Speaker 1: two fourteen official measurements. I think, given where the news

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Speaker 1: is at now with this pre draft news cycle, c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud in a sense has almost been overshadowed by Bryce Young,

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Speaker 1: by Anthony Richardson, by Will Levis, who will talk about

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Speaker 1: here momentarily. But he might be the one with the

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Speaker 1: fewest questions. You know, he is the most accurate passer

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Speaker 1: of this bunch. His touchdown interception ratio we just talked

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Speaker 1: about Bryce Young's the last two years for c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud eighty five touchdowns to just twelve interceptions, which is

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Speaker 1: almost impossible. That is an impossible collection over two seasons.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? He has done nothing but produce

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Speaker 1: at an extraordinary, extraordinarily high level in these last two years.

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Speaker 1: A starter, and I know you could say, well, look

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Speaker 1: at the talent around him. You know, he's got the

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Speaker 1: best receivers, he's got a great line, he's got a

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Speaker 1: good backfield. I don't think Will Levis is putting up

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Speaker 1: these numbers at Ohio State. I'm not sure Anthony Richardson

501
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Speaker 1: is putting up these numbers at Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud has been very, very solid. What we have seen,

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Speaker 1: what we have talked about, and I'm sure you're going

505
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Speaker 1: to get into this a little bit, is a few

506
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Speaker 1: of those deer and headlight moments with him right and

507
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: the play breaks down and the primary guy is in open.

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Speaker 1: There are moments like that throughout his college career where

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Speaker 1: somebody confused him, the play broke down, and then we

510
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: had some strange results, We had some strange throws in

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Speaker 1: those scenarios. I think he got better, though, you know,

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Speaker 1: we watched a lot of Ohio State this past season.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he got better. I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: either of Ohio State's two losses his past season against

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Speaker 1: Michigan or Georgia or his fault in the Georgia game,

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Speaker 1: he was sensational. I thought he showed a lot of

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Speaker 1: growth in a big spot. It was not his fault

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Speaker 1: that they lost. They damn near could have won that game.

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Speaker 1: So I think again, of all the quarterbacks out there,

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Speaker 1: he may not have as high as a ceiling as

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Speaker 1: a guy like an Anthony Richardson, or maybe even like

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Speaker 1: a guy such as Bryce Young, But I think there

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Speaker 1: were fewer questions about c J. Stroud coming into this

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Speaker 1: draft cycle. I'm all in, man, I'm in on him.

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Speaker 3: I like him a lot, as do I I'll figure out.

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Speaker 3: I'll talk my way through the CJ. Stroud experience right now.

527
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Speaker 2: But CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud is a quarterback that almost nobody had the luxury

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Speaker 3: of rooting for these past couple of years, because the

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Speaker 3: best of c J. Stroud has been and was a

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Speaker 3: quarterback who confidently took a snap in rhythm through downfield

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Speaker 3: at the exact right moment to any one of a

533
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: bajillion terrific receivers, whether it was Amika Abuca or Julian

534
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Speaker 3: Fleming or Marvin Harrison Junior this past year, or Jackson

535
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Speaker 3: Smith and Jig but Chris Olave, Eric Wilson the year before,

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Speaker 3: and good tight ends. And it almost reminds me of

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Speaker 3: the fact that Ohio State didn't necessarily revolutionize offenses these

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Speaker 3: past couple of years with c J. Stroud in the

539
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Speaker 3: way that LSU didn't necessarily revolutionize. They weren't doing anything

540
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: crazy special. With Joe Burrow in twenty nineteen, he was

541
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Speaker 3: just so incredibly confident and on time and throwing to

542
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Speaker 3: X silence, and so his understanding, like CJ. Stroud's understanding

543
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 3: of their respective offense offenses, was off the charts. And

544
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Speaker 3: so the best of Ohio State was You're gonna drop

545
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Speaker 3: sixty on you in the first half because I just

546
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: know exactly when Marvin Harrison Junior is going to be

547
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: open up the seam out of the slot. I know

548
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 3: exactly what defense, I know exactly where the holes are

549
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: in your cover three, and I know the precise millisecond

550
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: to hit Cad Stover or whoever. And I would personally

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Speaker 3: cherish and love rooting for c J. Stroud as my

552
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Speaker 3: college quarterback. Now, only one of our teams beat c J.

553
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Speaker 3: Stroud in Ohio State, So I think I can speak

554
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Speaker 3: to this a little bit more specifically.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: You are praying, You are praying that your defense can

557
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: do just a little bit to confuse and delay CJ.

558
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: Stroud because that's where his strength seems to be. It's

559
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: in that timing, in rhythm in the pocket, and Oregon

560
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: did a pretty good job of that. They were able

561
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Speaker 3: to play the possession game. I think they at least

562
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: had one pick, which is rare for CJ. Stroud, as

563
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: you mentioned, And you hope to get him off platform now,

564
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, he got way better off platform as

565
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: his career progressed. And look what he did against Georgia,

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Speaker 3: the best team in the country this past year. He was,

567
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: as you put, sensational. So we have that data point now,

568
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: like how does he do not against Michigan State, not

569
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Speaker 3: against Indiana, not against you know, Penn State, which he

570
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: actually had some down moments against Penn State's defense this year,

571
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: but the best of the best of the best, and

572
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: struggled against Michigan but came back and didn't erase it.

573
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Speaker 3: But added a positive data point with what he did

574
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Speaker 3: against Georgia down arguably one of his two best receivers

575
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Speaker 3: all season long this year in Jackson Smith and Jigba

576
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: made a superstar out of Marvin Harrison Junior. So I

577
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: come away thinking, yes, you need to be able to improvise. Yes,

578
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: you need to be great off platform in the NFL

579
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: because your offensive line is not going to you know,

580
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: bat a thousand, Your receivers are not going to do

581
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: exactly the right thing every play. So I trust him

582
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: to develop that feel and if he's a little bit

583
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: more willing to on third and seven take nine yards

584
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Speaker 3: on the ground and go out of bounds, if he's

585
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: able to, you know, figure out protections on the NFL level,

586
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: which I'm confident he will, and roll out in the

587
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: right direction and you know five weight, know that a

588
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: tight end is going to be open across the middle,

589
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: or you know a guy running a drag route is

590
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: going to be open at this moment, and buy himself

591
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: time to to get the ball to that guy.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be excellent. I really do.

593
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: I think all the reports of his work ethic has

594
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: command his poise if he's able to develop that innate

595
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: feel when things break down, which is not a given. Again,

596
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: with Nick Bosa bearing down on you, I'm I'm a

597
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: bye on CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud I just am.

599
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I think I'm with you, and look

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Speaker 1: a lot of what you mentioned, a lot of the ifs.

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Speaker 1: The qualifiers are things that are called out here in

602
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: this scouting report that I have gotten in front of me.

603
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: Hesitants to use his legs, labors to get square to

604
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: the target when rolling out, talking about the off platform

605
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: exactly stuff right, needs to be better at recognizing and

606
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: respecting safeties right when the primary is not open. Make

607
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: sure you're not throwing into the wrong spottom like a

608
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: cover too. That type of thing. Interceptions arising from when

609
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: he refuses to come off as primary. So these are

610
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: things that feel coachable. I'm not a coach by no

611
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: means I have. I've been a quarterback. These seem like common things.

612
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: These seem like wrinkles as opposed to really big questions

613
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: like we might have with a guy like an Anthony

614
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: Richardson who is still very green in terms of passing. CJ.

615
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: Stroud is a much more finished product, at least on

616
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Speaker 1: the passing side. He's never been a runner. He's never

617
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: been a runner. That's not to say he's not athletic.

618
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: We've seen him move around in the pocket. He has

619
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: a good feel for the pocket. He knows what he's

620
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: doing out there for sure, but if he can be

621
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more mobile, if he goes to a

622
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: bad team, he's probably a top dem He easily a

623
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Speaker 1: top five pick, maybe a top ten pick. I don't

624
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: know how things will shake out for him, but he

625
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: probably goes to a bad team where he's going to

626
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: have to showcase some of that athleticism with a line

627
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: in front of him that might not be up to snuff,

628
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: at least initially. I really, I really like him. I

629
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: really like him. I think he's much more of a

630
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: finished product than any of the other two guys that

631
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: we mentioned.

632
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Speaker 3: You, does it wear you at all that there is

633
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: one game circled for Ohio State and these past couple

634
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: seasons he does not necessarily rise to the stage and

635
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: meet that moment.

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Speaker 1: Yes and no four quarters yet, Yes and no, I

637
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: mean part of that. Sure, maybe we can look at CJ.

638
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: Straud and what he did in that Michigan game, but

639
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: we also need to talk about the Ohio State defense

640
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: not being able to stop the Michigan offense.

641
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 2: For sure.

642
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: You know that was much more of a factor in

643
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State losing than ce Jay Stroud.

644
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: I totally agree, but it also is a reality that

645
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: your team is not going to be excellent every week,

646
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: and if you're a quarterback, there are going to be games,

647
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: especially big ones, where you will, like we saw Deshaun

648
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: Watson do against Alabama, you will your team to victory

649
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: with your unquestionable excellence. And if we're talking about somebody

650
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: in the top five, top ten, if we're talking about

651
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: a quarterback Ohio State, which has all of the pressures

652
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: in the world that any of these other quarterbacks you

653
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: know that are playing at Alabama or us HE or

654
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: any of these huge places that they have.

655
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: C J.

656
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: Stroud met the moment against Georgia on a neutral site,

657
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: but it was in a dome.

658
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: You have much extra.

659
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: Time to prepare, right, It's it's a more ideal situation

660
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: even with that opponent, but outside in the elements with

661
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: the biggest spotlight on you. Yeah, that's it gives me

662
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: pause because I saw a quote from him that like

663
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: he would have won two Heismans, or maybe somebody was

664
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: about I don't remember, but if it weren't for two games,

665
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: we'd look at CJ. Stroud differently. And I hate that

666
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: line of thinking, because you know, if it weren't for

667
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: these wheels, I wouldn't be a bicycle. And that's that's

668
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 3: the thing that I always like, eh Man, those are

669
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: the moments that I wanted to see just a bit more.

670
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: We are in agreement. Show we get to our final quarterback.

671
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

672
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Will Levis tipped the scales at two hundred and twenty

673
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: nine pounds. He's got a six foot four frame. Um, okay, okay,

674
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: let me let me get a few things out of

675
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: the way here with Will Levis quarterback please at Kentucky.

676
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: Will Levis is obviously very talented. He's proven that he's

677
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: very coachable, he's tough, he's big personality. He seems like

678
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: the consummate teammate. He does have a bit of a

679
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: disturbing relationship with mayonnaise, which we're just going to put

680
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: to his side for the purposes of this discussion. But

681
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: he's easy to root for. He's easy to root for,

682
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: And my official stance, as we make the turn into

683
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: home of this NFL draft cycle in twenty twenty three,

684
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: my official stance is I like Will Levis a lot.

685
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't want to draft him in the first round.

686
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to draft him in the first round.

687
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: I am in a near constant disbelief over will Levis,

688
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: complete disbelief, for two main reasons. The first is Penn

689
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: State had him on the roster.

690
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, right there.

691
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: Penn State had him on the roster two years. They

692
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: used him primarily as a backup, primarily as a battering ram.

693
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: When they brought him in, they didn't even try to

694
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: develop them. The version of will Levis that we have

695
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: seen the last two seasons has almost been a completely

696
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: different player than what we saw in State College. So

697
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: good on will Levis for getting out of there when

698
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: he did, which don't always play the right guys, So

699
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: you can't fault James Franklin for all of them.

700
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: But this is a burrow was a backup. Yep, this

701
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: is a.

702
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Pretty big miss. This was a pretty big miss, especially

703
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: given the ongoing Sean Clifford experience that we saw over

704
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons. But nobody could have predicted

705
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: that will Levis would blow up the way that he did.

706
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: For me as a Penn Stater, I'd be lying if

707
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: I said I'm not at least a little bit influenced

708
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: by that here. I still think back to the twenty

709
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: twenty version of Will Levis when I'm trying to grade

710
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: out what I want a guy or not. I can't

711
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: get that out of my head. But he clearly has

712
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: done great things. The second reason definitely more football related.

713
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: You mentioned at the top of the show. We talked

714
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: to Nate Tice of the Athletic last year, and at

715
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: the time, this was right when they were starting to

716
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: talk about twenty twenty three mock drafts a full year

717
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: in advance, and we all saw the Will Levis hype

718
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: starting then. And I remember I said to him and Nate,

719
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: I like, you, you know a lot more about football than me.

720
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: I think you're crazy. Why would you put Will Levis

721
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: this high? And at the time, his answer, which I

722
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: thought was very smart, was basically that Will Levis had

723
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: a good frame, that he had a good arm. He

724
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: clearly showed that he could take a big step forward

725
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: with a new system if given the chance. And he

726
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: was somebody not so much that he was planting his

727
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: flag in the ground and saying this is a surefire

728
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: top ten first round pick, what have you. He was

729
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: just saying, we should monitor him, we should monitor we

730
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: should see if he gets better, right, because if he

731
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: continues on this trajectory, there is no denying the fact

732
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: that he's got top ten talent. I thought that was

733
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: a good answer. Did he develop this year?

734
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: So he was hurt this year?

735
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: He lost key pieces, including his offensive coordinator. There are

736
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: reasons surrounding the Will Levis experience why it wasn't where

737
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: it was.

738
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 2: You know, loses his best receiver and your guy Wandale Robinson.

739
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: I gofatuated Dale Robinson, who was really really strong a

740
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: couple of years ago in the Liam Cohen offense. So yeah,

741
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: they're actenuating circumstances. You know, he was out without his

742
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: best running back the first few games of the season

743
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: this year, and just nothing really consistently clicked for this

744
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: Kentucky offense. The defense was inconsistent this year for Kentucky

745
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: doing the offense no favors. My worry with Will Levis's

746
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: and I don't worry as much about like the Penn

747
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: State baggage and the up and down nature of his

748
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: career because there are always reasons why.

749
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Sure.

750
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: My concern is it seems like things need to be

751
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: ideal for Will Levis to thrive and it's never really

752
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: going to be the case. It seems in the NFL

753
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: for things to be ideal. Now we saw what brock

754
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: Purty come in ideal situation that seems rare for somebody

755
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: to come in and thrive, But he also performed in

756
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: an unexpected fashion. As far as I can tell, the

757
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: Will Levis thing, I understand it. I think maybe not

758
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: more than you, but I think I'm you have the

759
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: Penn State baggage, which might prevent some of this for you.

760
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: That I think when a lot of these scouts are

761
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: looking at quarterbacks, they're not necessarily saying what was his record?

762
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: What was his team?

763
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: Like?

764
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 3: A lot of the base level stuff is he's got

765
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: to check a number of boxes before we even consider him. Right,

766
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: it's can he make this kind of throw? Does he

767
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: have the arm talent? Is he accurate? What is his

768
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: frame like? What is his speed like? What is you know?

769
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: How do people respond to him personally? And then we'll

770
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: get into the tape against the better teams, the more

771
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 3: average teams, and see where his strengths and weaknesses are.

772
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: It's clear that going back to last year, before the

773
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two season, he was seen as somebody who

774
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: checked a number of boxes. These are the throws you

775
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: need to make in the NFL. We're not even going

776
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: to consider you if you can't. And he checked those boxes.

777
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: So there will be a team that talks themselves into

778
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: Will Levis because they feel like they can get him

779
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: that ideal situation. They can have the coordinator in place,

780
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: they'll have the receivers, they'll have the line, they'll have

781
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: the system, they'll have the patience to say we're not

782
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 3: starting you for twelve weeks or for twelve months something

783
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: like that. And I understand it. I don't think I'm

784
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: as out as you are, but I definitely agree with

785
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: the risky nature of Will Levis at this point, just because,

786
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: just like what I said for Anthony Richardson, it's not

787
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: just showing the excellence, it's consistent excellence. And whether it

788
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: was his own injury this year, whether it was you know,

789
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: the offensive system change, whatever it was this year, the

790
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: Kentucky passing attack left me wanting more. And it wasn't

791
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: always because of an injured whatever, but it was also

792
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 3: because I don't know the architecture here, and Will Levis

793
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: is just making some weird decisions a little bit too

794
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: often maybe trying to do everything himself, and so that

795
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: to me concerns me. So I for those reasons, I'm

796
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 3: gonna pass on will Levis. But I at the same time,

797
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 3: you know I'm gonna I'm gonna be a fence sitter

798
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: here all so get the Will Levis thing.

799
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: I think I do.

800
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm just if you're if it's a make miss kind

801
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 3: of show, I think maybe miss me on will Levis.

802
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Lance Zerlein's comp on NFL

803
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: dot Com to j Cutler.

804
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Jay Cutler's arm was just out of this world. Yeah,

805
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: in his prime, at his best. And I don't know

806
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: if will Levis is necessarily there, but the ability to

807
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 3: rise to an occasion. I mean, Jake Culor was showing

808
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff at Vanderbilt and that was not

809
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: an amazing situation. So I get it from a certain

810
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: you know, just the ability to will a team forward

811
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: and you know, be that shining star almost unexpectedly at times.

812
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

813
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: Jake Coulor was at times a really good NFL quarterback

814
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 3: and I'm just not there.

815
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that will Levis got better. And

816
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right, to mention all the qualifiers. He

817
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: was hurt right, the team wasn't as good. This team

818
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: wasn't as good this year, This Kentucky team was not

819
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: as good. I just would expect something better than ninety

820
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: eight yards and three picks against Tennessee. Yeah, I would

821
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: expect something more than one hundred and nine yards and

822
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: a pick in a home loss against the aforementioned Vanderbilt Commodoors.

823
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: Stats aren't everything. I know that, but how much of

824
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: this inconsistency are we willing to explain away? Because he's

825
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: got a good frame and a live arm, you know,

826
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: there have to be limits to that. Accuracy has been

827
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: a struggle. His ability to sense pressure in the pocket

828
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: has been a struggle. There are real issues with his

829
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: game that need to be resolved. Doesn't mean that he's

830
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: not good enough to rise above it. We saw what

831
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: he did just in one year moving away from Penn State,

832
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: working with Liam Cohen and kind of having this meteoric

833
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: rise in twenty twenty one. That may be in him again.

834
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting for him to fail, but at least

835
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: at present, I think the Draftnicks are out of there

836
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: mind with this projection having him in the top ten.

837
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: I honestly think it's a case where folks are just

838
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: so invested in the idea of Will Levis at this

839
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: point that there's no return. It's in for a diamond

840
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: for a dollar. They're just all in, and if he

841
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: goes down, they'll go down with him.

842
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's also that somebody's got to get

843
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: picked right. But it's not just Will Levis's I mean,

844
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: it is Will Levis's merits, that's the most important thing.

845
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: But you're also comparing him against a number of other

846
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that have very specific physical or in game questions.

847
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: And so Will Levis showed more in twenty twenty one

848
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: at times in terms of consistency that Anthony Richardson showed

849
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: this past year when as the full time starter. He

850
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: is better built to be a successful NFL quarterback because

851
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: of his size to end, the ability to withstand hits

852
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: than Bryce young Is. He has the athleticism and willingness

853
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: to lead a team with his legs that perhaps CJ.

854
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: Stroud doesn't always have. And so you're looking at the

855
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: different attributes of Will Levis and you're saying, well, it's

856
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: not a perfect quarterback class in terms of it's actually

857
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: a pretty flawed quarterback class. And so is there a

858
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 3: certain amount of safety in taking Will Levis because he's

859
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: a B plus at a lot of things and not

860
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: an A and a C in a couple. You know,

861
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 3: when you're comparing different elements.

862
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 2: Of his games.

863
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: That's I think how you get talked into the Will

864
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: Levis experience.

865
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know there is position scarcity, as you

866
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: mentioned totally. If you need a quarterback, you want to

867
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: make sure you get one of the four that we discussed,

868
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: because you know the next man up is Hendon Hooker.

869
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: I like Hendon Hooker. Maybe we'll talk more about him

870
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: as the draft gets closer, but he's coming off in

871
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: ACL and that may not be an optimal situation. After

872
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker, you're talking about guys like Tanner McKee. You're

873
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: talking about guys like Clayton Tune, talking about guys like

874
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson. Right, it falls off in a hurry.

875
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: Jake Hayner, my guy, Jake Hayner. I was about to say, yeah,

876
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: even Stetson Bennett might be a top ten quarterback, not

877
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: top ten pick in this class. So if you need

878
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: a guy, you need a guy, and I understand overvalueing

879
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: it as such. But I'm just I think I'm out. Okay,

880
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: I think I'm out on Will Levis. I root for him,

881
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: but I can't talk myself into it.

882
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: All right.

883
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: I hope he wins a Super Bowl in much like

884
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: the way that Jalen Hurts got the Oklahoma and Alabama

885
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: social media. I hope Will Levis goes to a Super

886
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: Bowl and we get a Kentucky Penn State accord congratulating

887
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: Will Levis on his contributions to football society.

888
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: We have a list of other players here. We probably

889
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: have time for about two more.

890
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: All right, your choice.

891
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Let's talky about Bejeon Robinson. Let's get away from quarterbacks

892
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: if we could, and talk about Bijon.

893
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

894
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: Jehan Robinson is a tank. He is five to eleven,

895
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: he is two fifteen. He ran a four four six

896
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: p forty. He is by all accounts, a three down

897
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: running back who is good at everything. We saw that

898
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: on display at Texas. The comp per NFL dot Com

899
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: is Josh Jacobs. That makes a lot of sense to me.

900
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: He is physical, he can do pretty much everything. There

901
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: were many moments over the last couple of years where

902
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: Bijon Robinson strapped Texas football to his back, and he

903
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: was the reason they won the game this past season.

904
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: Close to sixteen hundred yards in the rushing game. If

905
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: you add on receiving yards, he's pretty close to about

906
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred yards from scrimmage. So this was, by all accounts,

907
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: a very successful campaign, a very successful career for Bijon Robinson.

908
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: Dim how many times per year recollection were we having

909
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: a conversation about Texas football where the quarterback situations kind

910
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: of influx, you know, the receiver situation, like they have

911
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: the drops. But Jean Robinson, again, if he's out there,

912
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: if he's not nicked up, he is the guy who

913
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: is going to lead them to the promised land. I

914
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: feel like that conversation happened on a weekly or bi

915
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: weekly basis.

916
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sensational.

917
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot to talk about with Jean

918
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: Robinson just because there are no physical questions, there are

919
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: no game questions. As you mentioned, a three down back

920
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: and was able to put you know, his own team

921
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: on his back for a stretches of the season as

922
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: the passing game stuttered. I did see you see Xavier

923
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: Worthy apparently had a broken hand I saw back half.

924
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: Of this season. So I mentioned that.

925
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: I don't have any questions. I just if I were

926
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: a team who had a lot to improve upon on

927
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: defense and quarterback, I would just say, hope you don't

928
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: kill us, Vijon, because we're not taking you. If there

929
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: is a team who has that final piece missing at

930
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: an all purpose tight back, and in drafting in the

931
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: top fifteen or whatever, I don't have it in front

932
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: of me. Sure you absolutely should take be Jon Robinson

933
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 3: and then probably not sign him to a second deal

934
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: because it's just that weird position unless he is so

935
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: good in the receiving game and is such a matchup

936
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 3: nightmare getting linebackers and slower safeties or whatever in coverage

937
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: that it's just a position that I don't value that much. Again,

938
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: not as a real NFL fan, but we've seen countless

939
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: teams do incredible things not paying running backs. So no,

940
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: I don't have questions about him. Because his burst, his

941
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: ability to sense where defenders are coming from, which I

942
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: guess would be vision, all of that, All the boxes

943
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: are checked for Bjon Robinson for me, and I'm just

944
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: so I'm exceedingly curious that if he can get to

945
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: the right team with the right play caller that can

946
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: we figure out how to use him as sort of

947
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: a reverse I mean, there's a bunch of guys who

948
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 3: fit this mole. But like I know, I'm saying a

949
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: lot of forty nine er players because that's the only

950
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: team I pay attention to. But like Deebo right where,

951
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: you're just like, we're gonna move him all over the field.

952
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: He's gonna be a running back, but we don't want

953
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 3: him to get hit thirty times a game. But we're

954
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 3: gonna get creative with him because I don't think there

955
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 3: is any better piece of putty in this draft than

956
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: b Jeon Robinson in terms of what you can mold

957
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: a player into creatively. So, yeah, take take all of

958
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: my money and give it to b Jeon Robinson. But

959
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: luckily I am not a GM.

960
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, here is the pool of other running backs.

961
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: Tell me if you would take any of these guys

962
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: over b Jeon Robinson, Jamier Gibbs.

963
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I would consider it, depending on draft value.

964
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach Evans, Nope, I wouldn't take Zach Evans over

965
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: b John.

966
00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: Robinson, Israel, Ibana Kanda.

967
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 3: Depends where and who I am, which team I am,

968
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: But not if I'm sitting there with the top fifteen,

969
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: top twenty pick.

970
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: Now, any of Devin A Chain, Zach Sharboney or Tank Bigsby.

971
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: A Chain's interesting, but I don't find him to be

972
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 3: as tantalizing, even though he was just full on great.

973
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: No again with top twenty, top eighteen, whatever value. If

974
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: my owner, and if all of the decision makers are

975
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 3: saying running back, running back, running back, running back, game changer,

976
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: versatile running back who can catch out of the backfield,

977
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: Bjeon Robinson is the if they're all on the board,

978
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: Bijon is.

979
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: The only answer to me.

980
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he played twelve games this year at

981
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: Texas and was just sensational.

982
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: Six. Jamir Gibbs is interesting to me.

983
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 3: If you were like Bijon at twelve or Jamier Gibbs

984
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: at twenty seven. That is interesting to me because I've

985
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: since his first game in college, and I've always mentioned this,

986
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: I've just been a Jamiir Gibbs fan club president just

987
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 3: because of the shiftiness and the ability to change direction

988
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: without slowing down.

989
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: We could talk about that. Yeah, let's talk about Jamiir

990
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: Gibbs next. I okay, we're I think both in agreement.

991
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: John Robinson. John Robinson first running back off the board.

992
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: Six point one yards per carry this past season at Texas,

993
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: very very good eighteen ninety four from scrimmage.

994
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: I especially like those numbers and like his game because

995
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 3: watching Texas games, we saw, especially against some of the

996
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: better teams and second halves and such, that the Texas

997
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 3: passing game really struggled. And so it became clear and clear,

998
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 3: do everything you can to take b John Robinson out

999
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: of this game and let Quinn youwrs be to became

1000
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: the strategy for a number of these teams. And yet

1001
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: he still produced, by and large, still produced. Let's talk

1002
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 3: about Jamiir Gibbs. John Robinson had six point one yards

1003
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: per carry. So did Jamiir Gibbs this past season at Alabama.

1004
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs is a little bit smaller. He's five to nine,

1005
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 3: he's one ninety nine. He ran a four to three

1006
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: six at the combine, which is blazing, absolutely blazing. He projects, again.

1007
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: Not my words, these are the words of scouts and

1008
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: people who do this. He projects is more of a

1009
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: running back two you know, not a three down back.

1010
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: The comp I saw as Alvin Kamara. Alvin Kamaras had

1011
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: a really good NFL career for the most part, so

1012
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he would draw those comparisons, I think

1013
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: is very interesting. He's also a guy as compared to

1014
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Bijon who's a little bit more active out of the backfield.

1015
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: Caught forty four passes for four hundred and forty four yards.

1016
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Very symmetrical, thank you. This past season. It was something

1017
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: that we talked about in the run up to the

1018
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two campaign that in lieu of any obvious

1019
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: targets out wide for Nick Saban and Bryce Young, that

1020
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: they would use Jamiir GiB a little bit more out

1021
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: of the backfield. And they've done that. They did do

1022
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: that this past season. Still, I feel like we didn't

1023
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: talk enough about him, and I wonder if you can

1024
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: speak to that point, because on many of the preseason

1025
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: shows we did this past year, we were all in

1026
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: on Jamier Gibbs being like the best things since sliced

1027
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: Bread coming over from Georgia Tech. He is going to

1028
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: be a difference maker in this Alabama offense. That's not

1029
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: to say that he wasn't. I just feel like we

1030
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: didn't talk enough about him, and I wonder why that is.

1031
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 3: Well, I think part of it has to do with

1032
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: the fact that some of those running backs, you know,

1033
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 3: this string of running backs at Alabama have been so good,

1034
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 3: most recently what Najee Harris or Harris Ranch with Nase

1035
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: and Damian Harris. They're around Alabama for a long time,

1036
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: and there's probably no more household team in America than

1037
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: the Alabama Crimson Tie just with how many huge games

1038
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 3: on huge networks against huge opponents Alabama plays. They're on

1039
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: CBS all the time, they're on ABC in the playoff

1040
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 3: or ESPN. And the player they're playing all these huge games,

1041
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs, is in a all due respect to Georgia Tech,

1042
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: kind of a relative wasteland at the bottom of the

1043
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: ACC until this past year.

1044
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: So he does it.

1045
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: His profile coming into the season is, oh, this was

1046
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: the one really strong offensive player for this down program

1047
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: and now he's coming to Alabama. But you're also now

1048
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: dealing with a Heisman caliber quarterback and the best coach

1049
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: of all time, and so you're not really afforded the

1050
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: opportunity to sort of flex the shininess of your star

1051
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 3: power that's barely English by the way, when you come

1052
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: in as essentially a one year rental and Alabama's defense

1053
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: took its lumps, so then that got a lot of attention.

1054
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 3: The offensive line, you look at the Texas game, that

1055
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: took some lumps, and so Jamir Gibbs was just sort

1056
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: of quiet greatness who didn't necessarily become a constant, enormous

1057
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 3: problem for every team that Alabama faced, like you know,

1058
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, you know, somebody who had built up their

1059
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: name over time, or those great receivers for Alabama. So

1060
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: I think you can get lost in the shuffle, and

1061
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: it almost makes Jamiir Gibbs a little bit underrated just

1062
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 3: because of his path and profile at Alabama. But I'm

1063
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: just enamored with him.

1064
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: I am.

1065
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, I shouldn't. There's nothing I can really

1066
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 3: complain about his game with. I don't know how huge

1067
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: he is, how tall and what is it heighten Waight

1068
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 3: Bay list of that at the moment, right, which is

1069
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 3: a little worrisome if you're going to, you know, be

1070
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 3: a receiver, if you're going to be asked with being

1071
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: an all purpose player, Bejon's taller than him?

1072
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, Yeah, So that.

1073
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: Worries me a little bit, but not in any sort

1074
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: of serious way. But yeah, I just think he's going

1075
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 3: to end up being an enormous weapon if he ends

1076
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: up at the right place, and somebody is going to

1077
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: kick themselves and there will be a conversation of like, hey,

1078
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: and they drafted this guy a pick before Jamir Gibbs.

1079
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Speaker 3: How about that? Great job? Sarcastically. So, no, I'm in

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Speaker 3: on Jamier Gibbs. Change the direction, the speed, the willingness

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Speaker 3: to be an all purpose guy. I guess it's just

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Speaker 3: a size thing and a profile thing at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's gonna go in the second round.

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Speaker 1: He's not a first round player per the mock drafts

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Speaker 1: that I've seen. It's been two decades now where the

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Speaker 1: running back position on draft day has been greatly devalued.

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Speaker 1: It's just you burn through running backs very quickly in

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Speaker 1: the league. Their knees go, their bodies are blown to

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Speaker 1: smithereens because of the wear and tear of the position.

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Speaker 1: So teams have devalued it on draft day. They don't

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Speaker 1: pick running backs as highly as they used to. And

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Speaker 1: I think Jamiir Gibbs is probably a guy who's very versatile.

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Speaker 1: You can fit him in almost anywhere. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: see more from him this past season. He already had

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Speaker 1: a good year, but I was a little disappointed by

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Speaker 1: the fact that we weren't talking more about Jamir Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: And that's for a variety of reasons, many of which

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Speaker 1: are probably not his fault. So I think he's great

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Speaker 1: to plug into the right offense, and he's definitely somebody

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Speaker 1: who can help out of the backfield.

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Speaker 3: I think it also it's easy at Alabama to get

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Speaker 3: lost in the shuffle as of running back as they've

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Speaker 3: aired it out more of these past few years, first

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Speaker 3: with Tua and Mac Jones and now Bryce Young, where

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00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: the receivers have been so good and the scoring has

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Speaker 3: been so electric for the most part for Alabama that

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Speaker 3: you don't look at Jamir Gibbs in the same way

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Speaker 3: as guys where you just handed the ball and they

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Speaker 3: would just constantly bruise and then bust a big one

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Speaker 3: and look like NFL running backs while still at Alabama,

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Speaker 3: So I guess that sort of works against Jamiir Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs, I would say, is probably my favorite player

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Speaker 1: with respect to the scouting report. Can I read a

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Speaker 1: few of these these quick please do these are great? Yeah,

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00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: runs with instant acceleration and gliding strides. Same yep opens

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Speaker 1: the corner by altering tempo and stride to stall pursuit.

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Speaker 1: That's apparently English. I'm not even sure I understand in

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Speaker 1: that sentence.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit down with that sentence and break it

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Speaker 3: down word for word to make sure I can get

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Speaker 3: to the right place.

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Speaker 1: Wiggle wiggle wiggle results in low success rate for open

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Speaker 1: field tacklers. There are definitely more succinct ways to say

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Speaker 1: that sentence, but okay, we'll continue.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 1: Mismatch weapon in the passing game, we knew that hands

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Speaker 1: are natural, soft and sure same above average potential as

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Speaker 1: a kick returner. We saw that obviously at Alabama this

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Speaker 1: past season.

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Speaker 2: I like them a lot.

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Speaker 1: I would definitely take a flyer on them.

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Speaker 2: Same absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Right in solid Verbo at gmail dot com. Let us

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Speaker 1: know your thoughts on Jamior gives. Let us know your

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: thoughts on other players. We just picked out what six

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Speaker 1: offensive stars that have been talked a lot about here

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Speaker 1: over the last week or so. We can continue to

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Speaker 1: do that if that's something you're interested in. We can

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Speaker 1: do defense talk a little offensive line if we want.

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about that, but sure we can

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Speaker 1: do our best here on the show. Let us know

1142
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: again via email. If you are on Patreon, head on

1143
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: over to the discord, give us your comments about players

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Speaker 1: that we discuss here today, or perhaps players that we

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Speaker 1: should discuss next. And certainly if you are out on

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Speaker 1: social media Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, wherever, YouTube, stop on buy

1147
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: let us know your thoughts. We'd be eager to hear

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Speaker 1: your analysis of whether or not you would take any

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Speaker 1: of the six guys that we discuss here today.

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Speaker 3: How much of the draft will you watch now that

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Speaker 3: they're doing it on Thursday nights?

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Speaker 1: It does present an interesting opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: I watched all the first round last year, and I

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Speaker 1: got pretty deep into Friday, but then I fell off,

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01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: fell off Friday morning or Saturday morning, whenever they started

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Speaker 1: up Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: I love not watching the draft now, but I love

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Speaker 3: finding out, So I generally I'm like playing sports or

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Speaker 3: I'm playing in some league on Thursday nights now, and

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Speaker 3: the draft at this point takes so long, and because

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Speaker 3: I don't actively root for an NFL team, I just

1163
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Speaker 3: see it as an incredible reveal for whenever I pick

1164
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: up my phone after playing tennis or whatever. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch it last year. I love all of

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Speaker 3: the stuff leading up to it. I love this stuff

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Speaker 3: after it and seeing where everybody's going and seeing reports

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Speaker 3: come out of mini camp or whatever. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 3: actual draft show itself, I'm just my ADHD can't handle it.

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Speaker 2: It just can't.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk more about this. We've got a ways

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Speaker 1: to go here, like six weeks. I think it's the

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Speaker 1: end of April. The draft is Kansas City this year.

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Speaker 1: We will talk more about this. Maybe we'll bring Nate

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Speaker 1: or somebody back on to discuss players. As we get

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Speaker 1: a little bit closer as pro days, things that nature

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Speaker 1: start to happen. But in the time being, you're out

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Speaker 1: there in California, I'll be doing a solo interview show

1179
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Speaker 1: on Thursday, so make sure you stop back for that,

1180
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Speaker 1: and we will have a special treat for everybody for

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Speaker 1: the Bruinet this week. I promise you, Oh, I promise you.

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Speaker 1: In your absence, Dan, while you're out there enjoying some time.

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Speaker 2: Away, I'm gonna listen. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: We will make it worth your while, for that guy

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01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: over there in sunny southern California, for myself, Tie Hill,

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01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: the brand over here in eastern PA. Thanks again for downloading,

1187
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: for listening, for supporting the show. Make sure you hit subscribe.

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01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: We'd love to talk to you again here in the

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Speaker 1: next few days. The off season rolls on.

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Speaker 2: Stay solid, Peace,