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Speaker 1: What up, everybody, and welcome to a brand new episode

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Speaker 1: of Dodgers' Territory In case you forgot My name is

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Speaker 1: Alana Rizzo alongside my co host Clint Passia.

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Speaker 2: Is so good to be back with you guys. Thanks

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Speaker 1: with you guys for another off season as we get

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Speaker 1: ready for the twenty and twenty six season.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully a three feet is in the works.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the stuff, Clint, let's catch up

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: All right. Since you've been gone, or since I've been gone.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you back.

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Speaker 1: We were trolling away doing all of the work, doing

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Speaker 2: But since I was gone, I had a great trip.

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Speaker 1: So Maggi Row was the hero. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 3: The important thing is, uh, you know the things we

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Speaker 2: According to ESPN research. That's just dumb.

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's not that easy, right, He probably just like, Ah,

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Speaker 1: I just don't want this to become a situation where

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Speaker 2: Way, you know what I mean, anybody else could win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's out there healthy and getting into one

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Speaker 1: This is not the leverage arm that they're looking for, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: I think we can move on. I couldn't. I really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not it's not going to be the move

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Speaker 3: And we also have breaking news from Scott Braun. He

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Speaker 1: But by the way, graduations to my little brother Scott

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Speaker 3: Listen, you guys know my stance on marriage. But congrats

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Speaker 3: about our friend, your friend Keik Hernandez had a little

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Speaker 3: But he needs to be ready for October. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: That's like, leave the man alone for one for the

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Speaker 1: Does anybody know if this was like a TMZ kind

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Speaker 1: Man like running around another grown ass Man in the airport,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was more leaning towards grown ass

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Speaker 3: Aggravated it in the National League Championship Series.

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Speaker 1: I hope he aggravated it picking up the trophy. You

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Speaker 1: know what, You'll take it. Everyone Everyone's heard at that point, right,

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Speaker 2: All of that.

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Speaker 1: Stuffy guys, these guys are not immune to going under

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Speaker 1: does does that change his market?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I guess it all depends on when he's going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Dodgers can use them. I've I've

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Speaker 3: let it be known that he wants to come back desperately.

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Speaker 3: I think they can find a way to make that move.

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Speaker 3: But I'm assuming now I kind of had the gut

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Speaker 3: We've seen it with Clayton Kershaw in the past. That

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Speaker 1: I don't, and we'll we can talk about this later

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Speaker 1: is not amazing, Like nobody's working out. This doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: We lose Evan Phillips. You know, we lost Blake trnin

437
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Speaker 1: for quite some time. He came back, he wasn't as

438
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Speaker 1: effective as he was in twenty twenty four. In terms

439
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Speaker 1: of the postseason. Tanner Scott, we know we had that surgery.

440
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Speaker 2: The whole thing.

441
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Speaker 1: Kirby Yates wasn't as successful as we needed them to be.

442
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Speaker 1: I don't like this revolving door bs. Devin Willims makes

443
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Speaker 1: some sense to me.

444
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Speaker 2: What about you?

445
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Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, I mean, we know the interest is going

446
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 3: to be there. We'll talk more about Devin Williams in

447
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 3: a little bit spoiler he will be part of Noster

448
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 3: dummass there. But yeah, this is a guy that the

449
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 3: Dodgers have been linked to him over the last couple

450
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Speaker 3: of years. Obviously, there was almost a trade in place

451
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Speaker 3: a year ago to bring him from Milwaukee to the Dodgers.

452
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: Ultimately they ended up going to Tanner Scott route because

453
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Speaker 3: he was traded. Devin Williams was traded to the Yankees.

454
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Speaker 3: Did not have a great season in New York by

455
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Speaker 3: any stretch of the imagination. But I don't know if

456
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Speaker 3: I buy in so much the idea that they need

457
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Speaker 3: a closer, but they are one hundred percent need high leverage,

458
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Speaker 3: like somebody a right hander, a high leverage right hander

459
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Speaker 3: that can get the job done at the back end

460
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Speaker 3: of the bullpen. Because you know, you mentioned Blake Trina

461
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Speaker 3: did not have a great season. He's getting long in

462
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Speaker 3: the tooth now thirty eight. He'll be pitching it at

463
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Speaker 3: age thirty eight in twenty twenty six, in the second

464
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Speaker 3: and final year of his deal. Which is it is

465
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Speaker 3: insane to look at the Baseball Reference of Blake Tryon

466
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Speaker 3: and see that he's entering his eighth I think it's

467
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Speaker 3: eighth season with the Dodgers. Ludicrous to think of how

468
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Speaker 3: long he's been here. Really, yeah, it's it's it's pretty nutty.

469
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Speaker 3: But I think this is more about they don't necessarily

470
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Speaker 3: need a closer, because I've said it and I'll stand.

471
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Speaker 3: I'll die on the sale. Dave Roberts's better manager when

472
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Speaker 3: he doesn't have a closer, at least in the postseason.

473
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Speaker 3: But they need somebody who can get the lion's share

474
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Speaker 3: of ninth inning opportunities and is just plainly alights arm.

475
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Speaker 3: Lights that arm, which we know Devin Williams is because

476
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Speaker 3: you know, the All Star berths. The numbers tell you

477
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Speaker 3: that much. That Airbender is disgusting, and it still canna

478
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Speaker 3: be good, maybe even better in a Dodger uniform.

479
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Speaker 2: A man.

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Speaker 1: I think Devin Williams makes a lot of sense, and

481
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Speaker 1: the reason is I think his performance are lack there of,

482
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Speaker 1: or lack there of in terms of production for the

483
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Speaker 1: Yankees was an anomaly. I don't think the Yankees numbers

484
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Speaker 1: this year. I think that was kind of It was

485
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Speaker 1: a down year. And I do think that there's something

486
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Speaker 1: to be said about pitching in the National League versus

487
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Speaker 1: the American League. I do think there's something to be

488
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Speaker 1: said about pitching on a team where you don't have

489
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Speaker 1: to be the man. You don't have to be. I mean, granted,

490
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Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily have to do that either in New York.

491
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Speaker 1: But I do think that Devin Williams makes a lot

492
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Speaker 1: of sense because I like the price tag. I don't

493
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be insane.

494
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Speaker 2: I just like like his stuff, I like his makeup.

495
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Speaker 1: I think he'd be a good fit in LA I

496
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Speaker 1: do I do lend I'm a little opposite of you.

497
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Speaker 1: I do think they need a closer. I don't I

498
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Speaker 1: think they need somebody that is. You say the lion's share.

499
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Speaker 1: I say, you're the closer unless you absolutely need a

500
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Speaker 1: day off because of workload or you know, obviously you

501
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: don't need It's not a safe situation, so you don't

502
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Speaker 1: need a closer that day.

503
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Speaker 2: But I love it. Bring him in.

504
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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, you're just saying that because the whole time

505
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: you recovering that damn team, Kenny Jansen was nails, all right,

506
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 3: at least for the majority of the time he was nails.

507
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Speaker 3: It's it's it's definitely.

508
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Speaker 2: Traditional seventy four.

509
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which, by the way, free agent. I don't hate

510
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 3: the idea of him.

511
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Speaker 1: I would like him as a metal reliever, like maybe

512
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Speaker 1: like a two.

513
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Speaker 2: Three inn guy. He's not exactly closer anymore, but breaking

514
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Speaker 2: I would love to have Kelly Beck.

515
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Speaker 3: Let's say, spoiler Kenny Jansen at least it is not

516
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Speaker 3: part of the expected bold off season prediction. But let's

517
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Speaker 3: say we get into some not so bold, honestly off

518
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Speaker 3: season predictions with some noster dumbass. It's still my favorite.

519
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: That is still my favorite. I figured we could have

520
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: some fun to bold or not so bold predictions, because

521
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Speaker 3: I say not so bold, I don't think it's going

522
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Speaker 3: to be a very exciting offseason, at least not to

523
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Speaker 3: the levels of excitement we've seen over the last because

524
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Speaker 3: that means.

525
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Speaker 2: You don't need a lot of stuff.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this team is good, you know. And that's another

527
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: conversation we haven't had because you've been out vacationing and

528
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: enjoying your life. But like, this is a team that

529
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Speaker 3: does not need a lot of effort. They could probably

530
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Speaker 3: put the forty man roster out that they have right

531
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Speaker 3: now and win the NL West without much fan fair

532
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, other teams in the NLS can get better.

533
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, this, is that with Sasak as

534
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Speaker 1: a starter or is that with Sasaki as a closer?

535
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Speaker 3: Well, it's with Sasaki not in the rotation them winning

536
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Speaker 3: the NL West. I don't know that his future is

537
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: in the starting rotation. That said, he will enter spring

538
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Speaker 3: training in the starting rotation or at least being one

539
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Speaker 3: of the five or six to seven dudes that the

540
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: team will be looking at to pick up some big innings.

541
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Speaker 3: I really don't know how that works out because they

542
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: have just an insane amount of talent in the starting rotation.

543
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Speaker 3: Even after Clayton Kershaw retires, or retired. Now, the amount

544
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: of arms they have, it's pretty ridiculous. I have this one.

545
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: This one's just going to be hanging around in perpetuity

546
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Speaker 3: this offseason. But Gavin Stone is coming back from shoulder surgery.

547
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: He was electric when he was healthy in twenty twenty four.

548
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: Emma Sheen, we know he is very, very good starter.

549
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Speaker 3: And you got those four dudes at the top of

550
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Speaker 3: the rotation. I would love to see Yamamoto get a

551
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: fair amount of break. But with Roki Sasaki, River Ryan

552
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 3: most likely to seek Asparius and Rableski to the go

553
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: to the bullpen in some sort of role, Dodgers are

554
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: in a very good position to not need a flashy

555
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: or splashy off season. They need an outfielder thus much

556
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Speaker 3: we know. Actually, we got a super chat from the

557
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Speaker 3: Truthseeker Doc RB ten dollars. Thank you much, say and

558
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: welcome back, Alana. Good afternoon to both of us. And

559
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Speaker 3: wondering what rumors, what the rumors are to improve the outfield, bullpen,

560
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: the defense. Hearing that you know, maybe there's a Pete Fairbanks,

561
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: another guy who's a long time future Dodger, you know,

562
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: maybe a Stephen Kwan, maybe Byron Buxton in there, and yeah,

563
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: getting into bold off season predictions. I have no problem

564
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 3: leading us off here. Mine. My number one is, I

565
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: do think the Dodgers trade for Stephen Kwan. I understand Cleveland.

566
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Speaker 3: You know they made the postseason last year. They're they're

567
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 3: a good ball club. They're manager is a two time

568
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: AL Manager of the Year award winner. But at some

569
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: point Steph Quan's gonna start costing more money. The Dodgers

570
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: were already linked to Stephen Kuan at the trade deadline

571
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: line last year. The Dodgers loved to start doing their

572
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: homework early cough. The Mookie Betts deal that happened in

573
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: twenty twenty almost happened in that twenty nineteen at the

574
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen trade deadline. We know there's interest now. Bob

575
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: Nightingale Penna call Um about it last week at the

576
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: GM's meetings. Dodgers needed an outfielder. They needed a left

577
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: fielder with plus two elite back to ball skills, something

578
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: Steven Kwan has. He's also an absolute demon in the outfield.

579
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: They can use some left field defensive help. And we

580
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: know this is a team that has the prospect capital

581
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Speaker 3: to get a job, get a deal done if it's

582
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: you know, one or two of the outfield prospects they have,

583
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: or one of their guys, plus maybe an Alex Call

584
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: thrown in there, a top pitching prospect, a lower tierspect

585
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: pitching prospect, maybe Alex Friedland who is still highly regarded

586
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: on all of the prospects lists. They have the tools,

587
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: they have the players, they have the talent to bring

588
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: Stephen Kwaneer, who fills a perfect need for this team.

589
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and we didn't talk about this,

590
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: and I'm just throwing it out there because it's easy

591
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: for me to spend other people's money. What if you

592
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: moved Tao to the to left field? You move Tato

593
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: left field. He's not a great right fielder, Okay, Kwan

594
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: obviously is better defensively.

595
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: I understand that.

596
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: But I will take Tao's power in the lineup and

597
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: you go out and you sign Kyle Tucker. Now I

598
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: say that because it's going to come with a massive,

599
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: massive price deck. Okay, we're talking about three hundred and

600
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: fifty to five hundred million for Tucker, which is insane.

601
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: But he's young, he's good. I get it.

602
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: He's a former astro calm down. But I mean, is

603
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Speaker 1: that something that would even be on the radar? Does

604
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: it make sense?

605
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean absolutely to a degree. And this is

606
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: with that that caveat of it's not our money because

607
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: you're looking at a ten year deal for a twenty

608
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: eight year old All star outfielder with Kyle Tucker. But

609
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: one of those guys you know you mentioned Taoskar Hendandez,

610
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: he will be off of the payroll in two seasons.

611
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 3: They already open up a butt ton of payroll this

612
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: winter with Clayton Kershaw retiring obviously, Michael Conforto off of

613
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: the payroll, Chris Taylor finally out from under that contract,

614
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: so on and so forth, almost ninety million dollars free

615
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: in payroll. They're they're kind of the most expensive they're

616
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: going to be right now. You know, you don't need

617
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: to pay a lot of other prospects who are you know,

618
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: getting big raises in arbitration. So if you're looking for

619
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: somebody fitting that bill of bat ball plus defender Kyle

620
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: Tucker or somebody could play some left field, can play

621
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: some some some right field, Ideally they would land a

622
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: center fielder that's not necessarily the guy that's out there

623
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: in this market. I you know, there is that factor though,

624
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: of can they convince Tayo to move to left field?

625
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: Like I wonder if they would be more open to

626
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: trading him somehow right maybe maybe?

627
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: But I think, I mean, he wants to be in

628
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: LA I think, I think, I mean, as long as

629
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Speaker 1: he as long as you're not taking him out of

630
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: the lineup. I don't think he cares where he plays

631
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: in the outfield. I think down he knows he's not

632
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: the best right fielder in the world.

633
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: I would hope hopefully he gets better, though, I mean,

634
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: what's wild And we've talked about this on the internet

635
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: over the last week or two because I asked that question, like,

636
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: could there be a scenario where the Dodgers explore trading

637
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: task for her Nandez? But what's what's a wild situation

638
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: with him is that he has good foot speed. He

639
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: just reads baseball's poorly in the outfield and doesn't.

640
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: Need you need that as an outfielder. He need to

641
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: be all coming off the bat. You know who I

642
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: would have loved for the Dodgers to sign is Jared Duran.

643
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: Now they can't this year because they signed him to

644
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: a one year deal trade. I think Jaron Duran maybe maybe,

645
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: but I think Jared Duran would have been really great

646
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: pop in the lineup. He can run fast. He's a

647
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: really good dude in the clubhouse. Not to say that

648
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: any of our guys aren't. What I'm saying that if

649
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Speaker 1: you're going to add somebody, you always want to know

650
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Speaker 1: about the character of the person, and I think Jared

651
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: Duran's a really good dude. I would not be upset

652
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: with Stephen Kwan at all, but I just you know,

653
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: there's other guys too that I would I would be

654
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: fine seeing in the outfield.

655
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: What about Belly over a Belly reunion over Stephen Kwan,

656
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

657
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: I never know how that's gonna work out.

658
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I would love Belly and Center because I

659
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: love I still love Bell unders defense he played. He

660
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: played so much better in New York than I thought

661
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: he was going to. I didn't think that Belly was

662
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: gonna deal with New York very well, just because he's

663
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: such a mellow dude. And I know everybody says always

664
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: because he's always stoned. But he had such a good

665
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: year in New York in terms of numbers and the

666
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: way that he handled everything, Like I wasn't sure how

667
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: that was going to go, and it worked out really well.

668
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. You never know how it's going to

669
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: be with reunions, right.

670
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it made it worked out well with

671
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: KEI K. I don't know, Like, would it be the

672
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: same as it was when Kenley was here? Would it

673
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: be the same as it was when JT was here

674
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: if those guys came back, I don't know. Sometimes sometimes

675
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: you can't go back home, you know what I mean.

676
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if Belly would have the same

677
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: type of impact as he did. Like sometimes the team

678
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: now is different than when Belly was here.

679
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: You know.

680
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: An important fact, though, he doesn't need to be twenty

681
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: nineteen MVP Belly. He does not need to be twenty

682
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: seventeen Rookie of the Year forty Homer Belly. He doesn't

683
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: need to be that guy. They don't need that guy.

684
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: They have other dudes to be the man. He just

685
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: needs to be somebody who is a solid five or

686
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: six hitter in that lineup, even as low as seven

687
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 3: if you really need it. But you know he can

688
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: hit cleanup. You know he's a run producer. You know

689
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: that Scott Boris is willing to do some sort of

690
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: weird white man raps about him or whatever the hell

691
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: Scott Boris does. At this point in the offseason, somebody

692
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: needs to take that the microphone away from that man.

693
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: But between Honestly, I've said it before, some of this

694
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: is definitely rehashing things we've talked about on the internet.

695
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: Not that there's a whole lot going on, so there's

696
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of rehashing. I think I

697
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 3: take Cody Bellancher on a shorter deal over Kyle Tucker

698
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: just because of the shorter deal.

699
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's of course sure.

700
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean I think Belly is he's not that far

701
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: gone from Kyle Tucker. He's not that far from what

702
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: he used to be. But yeah, of course the money

703
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: makes a lot more sense. I mean, maybe that's what

704
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: you do. Maybe you figure it out for the next

705
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: couple of years and and then and then reassess. I mean,

706
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: this team, this team is very good. So I there's

707
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: really nothing to me other than the closer in the

708
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: revolving door situation.

709
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: There's not. This team doesn't have a ton of holes

710
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: in my opinion. I mean, now, there is.

711
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: One thing though, this team is a year older now,

712
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: like they're getting older. Yeah, you know what I mean,

713
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: we all are, but.

714
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: It is they are getting over.

715
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, age is a factor for sure. And

716
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: they play a lot of baseball each and every year,

717
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: starting with earlier seasons in spring training and playing into

718
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: November this year, that is absolutely a factor. You know,

719
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 3: we're we're probably gonna hear a lot of the conversation

720
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: about World Series hangover early next year, maybe even through

721
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: a lot of the season again because we saw it

722
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: this year. Hopefully they learn how to deal with that

723
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: World Series hangover. But yeah, they are getting older. They

724
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: are one season older. Freddy's getting older. You're starting to

725
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: see some of the signs there of him not being

726
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: the perfect hitting specimen that he was for the majority

727
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 3: of the first what twelve thirteen years of his career.

728
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: Still all very very good ballplayers, And as Dave would say,

729
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: to borrow from Dave, you know, I believe in these guys.

730
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: I have a lot of trust in these guys. And

731
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: you find a way to supplement you know, the roster

732
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: here and there. You have an opportunity in left field,

733
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: you have an opportunity maybe with a closer or a

734
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 3: bullpen guy Devin Williams much younger than Blake Trinon. At

735
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: some point, you know, they're gonna need an air apparent

736
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: at third base for Max Muncie. They'll find a way.

737
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: Hessan Kim's young.

738
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if Heslan Km's on the team next

739
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: year anyway.

740
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: Bold prediction? Is that a bold prediction?

741
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: Sure? I mean he was not did he wasn't on

742
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: a postseason roster?

743
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

744
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was What are we doing?

745
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean that's everything you need to know about how

746
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: they feel about him. Like I feel like he's an

747
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: expendable piece, you know what I mean. Remember he started

748
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: the season in the in the minor leagues.

749
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: Ideally he's somebody who fills into that whole rotation of

750
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: utility guys. Could be somebody that takes, you know, one

751
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: of those jobs that's open right now from Miguel.

752
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: That's the thing though, If that's if we're looking at it,

753
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: if that's his value, if that's who he is, I'd

754
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: rather have Key k Hernandez or Miguel Rojas, even at

755
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: their age.

756
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: What about that? So let's make that a bold prediction here.

757
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: I had said two weeks ago, I don't think they

758
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: would both be back. I don't think the Dodgers re

759
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 3: signed both. Where do you stand with both Mickey Rowe

760
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: and Keith Ernandez? Which way do the Dodgers go?

761
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: If Hissan Kim is on the roster, I don't think

762
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: they bring both of them back. If he's not, I

763
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: do think that they bring both of them back. I

764
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: will say this though, if it's.

765
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: One or the other. To me, I think it's Key

766
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: k A over Miguel.

767
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: And I know that I you know, obviously Miguel with

768
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: the World Series heroics and and all of those things,

769
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: but I mean, you're not in the situation that you're

770
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: in without Kik in the course of the postseason, and

771
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: I know that Miguel said he wants to come back

772
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: and have the opportunity to repeat, which is different than

773
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: what he said that that you know that he was

774
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: going to retire. But I think I would love to

775
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: see them both back. I think it happens if him's

776
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: not on the roster. If he is on the roster,

777
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: only one comes back, and.

778
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: It's Key k Hey competition though you know, hess On

779
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: Kim does have options. He's somebody that get a lot

780
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: more playing time at Triple A. If they need it.

781
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: We know this is a front office that wants to

782
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 3: have the maximized, wants to maximize their their options on

783
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: the forty man roster, So that could be one of

784
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: those things where they do bring him both back, and

785
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 3: you know, eventually somebody wins out on the playing time

786
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: between those two and Hessong Kim. But between those three guys,

787
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: one guy actually has something to prove. That is Hessng

788
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: Kim so and he has he has team control. I

789
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: don't know. I think I think he'll be around. I

790
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: think he'll be a factor.

791
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if Miguel and Kei k don't get signed

792
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: by another team and they wait until the end of

793
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: the season, the end of the off season like they

794
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: did last year to bring Key K back, it may

795
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: be a situation of non roster invite to spring training

796
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: for both of those guys, if they're not picked up

797
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: by any of the other twenty nine clubs, and then

798
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: they battle, the three of them battle it out in

799
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: spring training.

800
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Miguel Rojas, I'm still going to die

801
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: in the hill that that he comes back. I think

802
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: he means so much of that clubhouse, He means so

803
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: much to the front office and him just being a

804
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: you know, a vocal leader back in the clubhouse.

805
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: But that's essentially they're the same dude.

806
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: They are, and that's what makes us really tough, you know.

807
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love them both to death. But I

808
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: don't know that you can have three utility guys, you know.

809
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, plus plus Tommy Edmund. You know, he's still going

810
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: to be around. He's having ankle surgery, uh this week

811
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: at some point. So I don't know if we actually

812
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: had a fully bold prediction there, because that is a

813
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: tough conversation for the front office. I'm still gonna die

814
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: on the hill that I had two weeks ago. As

815
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: much as I want Kik back, I think they go

816
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: Miguel Rojas because it's one year over Kikh, and I

817
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: don't think he is going to want to wait to

818
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: sign a contract until March like he did last year.

819
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think he knows he's probably

820
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: only going to get a one year deal anywhere that

821
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: he goes. So unless somebody like comes up like soon

822
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: in free in a yeah, free agencies in the offseason.

823
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: Listen. I love him.

824
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: I just don't think that there's a billion guys, you know,

825
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: a billion teams knocking down his door, you know what

826
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean.

827
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: And that's that's a stark reality that a lot of

828
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: other teams aren't in the same position the Dodgers are

829
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 3: into sign somebody who essentially is just an October player.

830
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: Correct, exactly exactly, and that's exactly right. Like if if

831
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: there's not a ton of teams that are like, oh,

832
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: we're good, we know we're making the postseason. So you know, yeah,

833
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: that's exactly exactly right. So another point that you had,

834
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: do the Dodgers resign Michael Kopek.

835
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 3: That's one of my bold predictions here. Not a lot

836
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: of people talking about Michael Kopek. I'm going to be

837
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 3: one of the people talking about Michael Kopek. I think

838
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: he'll be back. I think it'll be a one year deal. Listen,

839
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 3: he was really good when they brought him over after

840
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: he was freed from the clutches of the White Sox

841
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four twenty twenty five season disaster. You

842
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: cannot state it any other way. It was an absolute disaster.

843
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: I think he owes them one. I think he would

844
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: like an opportunity to actually pitch for this ball club again.

845
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: Something he couldn't really do, and they got into a

846
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: nine to ten games something like that during the regular

847
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: season here in twenty twenty five. I don't know that

848
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: there's a massive market out there, so I think it'd

849
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: be a one year deal, maybe one of those one

850
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: plus ones. But I think they'll be There'll be a

851
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: Michael Kopek sighting at spring training because they need healthy

852
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 3: relievers at the start of the season. They are going

853
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: to eventually have a very very good bullpen, but you need,

854
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: you know, Devin Phillips to get healthy by mid season

855
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: and you know insert other names here. They it's gonna

856
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: be a lot like we dealt with last year, like, oh,

857
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: just give him time. Everybody will be healthy, then it's

858
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: gonna be really good.

859
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we were healthiest when it mattered the

860
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: most in terms of starting staff. This is what I think.

861
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: I look at Michael Kopek the same way I look

862
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: at Devin Williams. Devin Williams had a really down year

863
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: for the Yankees. Michael Kopek had a terrible year for us,

864
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: so perhaps you know he has a he has a

865
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: bounce back here. Devin Williams has a bounce back here,

866
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: and that that's two really solid arms in that in

867
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: that Dodgers wolfpen.

868
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And there that that's uh, well, we'll pull

869
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 3: the wool over everybody's eyes or the other way around.

870
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying that wrong anyways. The final bold prediction, Yeah,

871
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: I do believe the Dodgers signed Devin Williams. I think

872
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: everything is out there. The pieces are in place for

873
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: for him to want to come to l A. The

874
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: Dodgers need him, can use him, he would. There's a

875
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: if you can get better, if Devin Williams could get

876
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: better by working with the Dodgers, you know pitching gurus.

877
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: They need an eventual replacement, like I said earlier for

878
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: Blake Trinon, who has only one year left on his deal.

879
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: But maybe they need a replacement at the back end

880
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: of the bullpen for him this year because he was

881
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: not great in twenty twenty five.

882
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: You know, they like the bullpen as the collective wasn't

883
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: great in twenty twenty.

884
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: Five breaking news, they weren't. They weren't so.

885
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four in the World Series and in

886
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: the postseason, they just they were not good. That was

887
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: the biggest question mark all season long, was the Dodgers bullpen,

888
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: especially towards the end of the year, they just weren't

889
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: good and there was that constant revolving door, which is

890
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: why Dave Robert should get more credit than he does

891
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: because of the way he handles everything.

892
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: No votes in the Manager of the Year world right now,

893
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: that is not even a down ballot vote, and that's embarrassing.

894
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: That's so ridiculous because everyone's like, oh, they're the Dodgers,

895
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: they should automatically win.

896
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: People not being exceptionally happy about my Copek re signing,

897
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: I will note I'm not saying he's going to be

898
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: re signed to be a a back end of the

899
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: bullpen guy, a closer for this team. More so a

900
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: healthy right the righty throwing arm. For that's an option.

901
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: Another guy who is competition. If he is outpitched by

902
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: somebody like Evan Phillips when he comes back and is

903
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: healthy in the second half of the season, or if

904
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: Ben Casparius out pitches him, if Anthony Bonda out pitched him,

905
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: so on and so forth, those guys will get more opportunities.

906
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: But and we didn't talk eire, we didn't talk about

907
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: this either.

908
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm super psyched that they brought Alex s Messia back. Good. Yeah,

909
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: that's great.

910
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: One percent needed to be back that that he is

911
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: the leader in that bullpen and you know you saw

912
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: it by the World Series. It showed his absence absolutely

913
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: showed just as a heart and soul kind of dude

914
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: for that ball club. But there's our long way around

915
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 3: some bold predictions. Hopefully people enjoyed that. Again, I don't

916
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be an overly exciting off so.

917
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be.

918
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: And that doesn't need to be. It doesn't need to

919
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: be if it is a lot of resignings. If it is,

920
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: you know, Miguel Rojas and Keith Ahernan is a Michael Kopek.

921
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: I mean, we should be excited if they land Devin

922
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: Williams and are able to bring in Stephen Kwan, but

923
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: don't be uh, don't be mad when it's not the

924
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 3: most exciting, most exciting offseason. That said, I think we

925
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 3: can get into last Nick's last licks. Now what do

926
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: you think?

927
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: Agreed? Always?

928
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: All right, guys, thanks for letting me do this. I

929
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: appreciate it very much. This is Trooper. He is adorable.

930
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: He's not even a year old, but he's such a

931
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: good boy. He's healthy, he's neutered, he's vaccinated. He's a sweetheart.

932
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: He gets along swimmingly with other pups. He's good with kids.

933
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: He was going to be euthanized at the shelter uh

934
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: in Downey just because he had a broken leg.

935
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: He's all fixed up. He's awesome.

936
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: So if you're interested in adopting Trooper, please let me know.

937
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: He's being foster in Aliso Viejo, California, but he wants

938
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: to go to his forever home for the holidays.

939
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: So reach out. Let me know.

940
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: Getriysguardian dot orger hit me up on social before we

941
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: sign off. Clint Baseball thought for the road. I don't

942
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: know if you guys saw it, but recently the twenty

943
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: twenty six Hall of Fame ballot is out. There's about

944
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: twelve new names on there, and former Dodger Matt Kemp

945
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: is on the list. Your thoughts of the likelihood of

946
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: my favorite number twenty seven getting into the Hall?

947
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: I would love it. He is not a Hall of Famer.

948
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: Love you, Matthew Ryan Kemp not a Hall of Famer.

949
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: The fact that he's on this list, well, one makes

950
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: me feel extremely old. That one I can't get away

951
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 3: from because I remember this kid coming out of being

952
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: part of the Jacksonville five that won the it was

953
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: the Southern League Double A championship back in two thousand

954
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: and four, two thousand and five, watching those dudes come

955
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: up make their debuts him, Russ Martin, Andre Ethie or

956
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 3: John Box, Chad Billingsley. Watching those guys come up and

957
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: make a difference with the past. Yeah, uh, he was

958
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: somebody who was. But anyways, yeah, I don't know. I

959
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: just don't see Hall of Fame credentials. Uh, definitely an

960
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: MVP robbed an MVP.

961
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 2: But no, that's.

962
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was gonna say. I don't see

963
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: Matti Camp getting into the Hall of Fame. But I

964
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: will tell I will say this, you better not let

965
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: that motherfucker And I'll tell you that right now because

966
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: if it was for him here, yeah.

967
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: Ryan Bron's on the list. So if if Ryan Brown.

968
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: Didn't do what he did and lie about everything, Matt

969
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: Kemp would have gotten the m v P that year.

970
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: Do you think there's more of a case, more of

971
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame case if he wins that m VP.

972
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: For Matt No, I still don't think that that he's

973
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: an MVP just based on numbers, and I don't know.

974
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: I mean it certainly wouldn't hurt.

975
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe he's I think I think he'll be

976
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: a one and done. Maybe he wouldn't be a one

977
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: and done if he was a former league MVP. But yeah,

978
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: I don't think he gets the five percent vote. Not

979
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: that there's a lot of you know, I guess there

980
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 3: are some pretty decent names on there.

981
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: But.

982
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there, Jimmy Rawlins is on there. I

983
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: mean they've been on before. But yeah, I don't know.

984
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody on that list actually gets in,

985
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, not.

986
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 2: Not via the normal b b W A A vote.

987
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: I think as things expand and you know, time and

988
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: there's all these other ways to get into the hall.

989
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: Now, maybe Jimmy Rowlins gets in, I don't know, but

990
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: not just based on on on writers votes, I don't.

991
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, agree, I agree, And uh it feels like as

992
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: good a time as any to hit that sign off button.

993
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 3: Went on too long, you.

994
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: Guys, Yeah, yeah, anyway, good to be with you guys,

995
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. Clinton and I are

996
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: back normal time on Thursday, We're back to our Monday

997
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: Thursday rotation in this offseason to talk about I'm gonna

998
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: try to get a guest on a player guest, and

999
00:46:54,040 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: so then go Dodgers Bye. In