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Speaker 3: Welcome to two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 4: Now Here's Matt Jones welcome back.

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Speaker 5: I remember two Kentucky Sports Radio if I'm nine two

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Speaker 5: eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Now joined on the

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Speaker 5: phone by ESPN's Jay Williams, former Duke basketball player, which

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Speaker 5: is really his most negative quality, but otherwise, good Jay,

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Speaker 5: how are you?

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Speaker 6: What's up? MJ?

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Speaker 7: I saw I caught some some random strays the other day.

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Speaker 5: Well, you're just throwing you throw, You're just throwing curse

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Speaker 5: bombs on Twitter? What was that about?

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Speaker 6: Oh? It was just an f with a whole bunch

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Speaker 6: of stars.

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Speaker 5: Nobody curt Okay, well, I guess from the part is

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Speaker 5: that what we were saying.

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: All right, So Jay, I think the easiest way to

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Speaker 5: start this is I want to play the clip that's

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Speaker 5: to say what you meant or what you think how

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Speaker 5: how we should have interpreted what you said. Okay, So

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Speaker 5: here's the clip. We'll play right here. This is what

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Speaker 5: you said, I think Saturday on the college game consistent.

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Speaker 8: I mean the last three games they've led by nine

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Speaker 8: points or more at half in the first half. You know, look,

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Speaker 8: this is Arkansas like and all the things that you

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Speaker 8: said and Jay Billis said are correct. They have to

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Speaker 8: get tougher, learn how to close out games defensively.

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Speaker 6: Have to be better.

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Speaker 8: Like yo, every time you're playing, you're in a national spotlight,

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Speaker 8: and the biggest microphone is Big Glue Nation.

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Speaker 6: Let's keep it a buck.

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Speaker 8: So like every time John calib Perry fails, he's going

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Speaker 8: to go viral, everybody on Big Glue Nation is gonna say,

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Speaker 8: you see those offensive lapses that they have, You see

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Speaker 8: that lack of toughness. This is what we experience for

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Speaker 8: our time here at Big Glue Nation in Kentucky, and

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Speaker 8: it makes life difficult. And he's the biggest talking point

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Speaker 8: It's the life that comes along with the territory of

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Speaker 7: That in conference move and then having that received nil budget.

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Speaker 6: It's what comes along with it.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna handle it.

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Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be okay, this is gonna be

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Speaker 6: a fight. You think it's see much all right.

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Speaker 5: So there's two parts here. First, the part that sort

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Speaker 9: How?

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Speaker 5: Or no?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: I mean, well, first off, you know, m J. How

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Speaker 5: Long time? Long time.

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Speaker 7: If I felt that Big Blue Nation was just the

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Speaker 7: Do you think I am hesitant at all just telling

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Speaker 6: You know that's number one.

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Speaker 5: So what did you mean then? What did you mean?

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Speaker 6: I mean exactly what I said. I mean.

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Speaker 7: Look, I'm a fan of sports teams like you know,

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Speaker 5: That's just if you're a Giants fan. Joe Shane is

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Speaker 5: What do you mean about the fact that we have

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Speaker 7: It doesn't change his job, I mean, first off, it

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Speaker 7: So are you claiming that every time col does lose

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Speaker 5: Of course you're yes, But what does that have to

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Speaker 6: Well, I didn't say that you guys have anything to

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Speaker 7: I think you're being overly sensitive towards it. And first off,

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Speaker 7: I know you don't speak for everybody.

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Speaker 6: In Blue Nation. I knew Big Blue Nation is a

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Speaker 7: My point was, and what I said precisely was that

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Speaker 6: Nation let him hear about it. That's a really big thing.

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Speaker 7: When when Mick Cronin loses, other than when he goes viral,

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Speaker 5: agree with you. I agree with you. We do talk

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Speaker 5: about it. We do talk about it, but so what so,

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Speaker 5: what what does that have to do with how he's performing.

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Speaker 7: It has nothing to do with how he's performing. It's

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Speaker 6: Right. It's like if you you guys are the most

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Speaker 6: you do you do you confirm that thought?

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Speaker 5: Yes, certainly online, but probably in general.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So within college sports, within college basketball, Okay, I

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Speaker 5: So no, in college it's in college basketball. There are

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Speaker 5: some football ones that are like that too, but college basketball, yes,

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Speaker 7: So when Big Blue Nation is passionate about something, are

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Speaker 7: you stating that you undermine the passion of not underminding.

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Speaker 5: But again, the conversation, but that that conversation you all

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Speaker 5: for COW. I just don't know what that has to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but see this, this is what happens when you

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Speaker 7: And then what I did is I said, JB and Andrea,

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Speaker 6: Here's also another point that is really real about it.

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Speaker 7: I don't understand why that feels like Big Blue Nation

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Speaker 7: is being attacked because you guys.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think. Here's what I think, and you

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Speaker 6: Right when I when I think, is this that the

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Speaker 7: When I jumped on the internet the other day and

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Speaker 7: am a cal apologist.

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Speaker 5: And I'm no, I don't believe you're a col apologist totally.

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Speaker 5: I think Seth is and I've told him that here.

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Speaker 5: But let's go to the second part of that clip

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Speaker 5: we played. You said cow will take care of it.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure. Let me give you a second clip. This

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Speaker 5: when when people after Kentucky lost to Oakland before kled

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to say it out loud and very

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Speaker 7: so we can let it all just Mariner. John Cala Perry,

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Speaker 6: That's all I'm saying here.

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Speaker 7: As long as that, like so, everybody's gonna say, well,

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Speaker 5: Okay, so somebody added all that stuff, but who are

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Speaker 5: you all going to replace him with? Do you now

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Speaker 5: think clearly you thought we'd get worse Arkansas would get better.

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Speaker 5: Do you now think maybe that was incorrect?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but Matt, I'm okay with being wrong.

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Speaker 7: I don't know who Big Lunation was going to replace

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Speaker 7: John Caler Perry with. Mark Pope has been an incredible replacement.

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Speaker 7: He's exceeded expectations in his first year. So yeah, I

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Speaker 5: So here's where he Here's where UK fans get upset, Jay,

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Speaker 5: Here's where they get upset. And it's not just I

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Speaker 5: actually don't fans, no, but I think I speak for

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Speaker 5: think makes a lot of our fan base man, the

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Speaker 5: national media. That's an example with that clip of you

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Speaker 5: give you. If people who've said this, they always act

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Speaker 5: like Kentucky fans are the problem. We ran cal off

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Speaker 5: when our expectations are part of why it's Kentucky. And

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Speaker 5: I think our fan base does not like, at least

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Speaker 5: a lot of them do not like national media members

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Speaker 5: wrong in the end.

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Speaker 7: Matt, you know one thing I'm going to say that

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Speaker 7: your show is really good at is that you guys

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Speaker 7: take soundbites of things and that turns into larger narratives.

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Speaker 7: So what I will say, and you are right in

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Speaker 7: your assessment, just let me confirm this. You are right

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Speaker 7: in your assessment. But I also would challenge you on

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Speaker 7: the things that people have said, including myself, that have

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Speaker 7: gone against the grain on Caliperi. Those things never get

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Speaker 7: said multiple times during his run, they're like, yo, you've

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Speaker 7: got to win championships. That's what Big Blue Nation expects.

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Speaker 7: You're not winning championships the age of one and done.

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Speaker 7: Like we've had conversations on national TV about Yo, all

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Speaker 6: This year may have felt to be a little bit older.

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Speaker 5: But you did say Jay, I get it. But you

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Speaker 6: That no, No, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt. I challenge

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Speaker 5: Okay, where we're really good at media. All right, maybe

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Speaker 7: To get, Matt, Jay, Matt, this is your show, Matt,

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Speaker 5: Four hours.

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Speaker 5: Fair enough, if you didn't, if you didn't think they

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Speaker 5: And why do you think that's happened?

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Speaker 7: I think, well, first off, I think the challenge with

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Speaker 5: I think that, but it's not the AD's fault. It's

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Speaker 7: But but Matt, you you are really good at chiming

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Speaker 6: That's not what I said. I said that the AD

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Speaker 7: The right thing, Like like, I never said that it

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Speaker 7: of you doing that multiple times. And I don't know

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Speaker 5: Not I just but when I ask you, why is

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Speaker 5: Why is it Cow? What responsibility does John Caliperry have?

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Speaker 7: He has all the responsibility. One percent of it is

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Speaker 6: Like I'm not calling in.

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Speaker 7: To butcher John cali Perry, he is no longer the

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Speaker 6: They deserve it.

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Speaker 5: All, right, do you and I believe that? And let

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Speaker 5: me just say, I think in general, you are one

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Speaker 5: you right there said I'm not here to bury on

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Speaker 7: Once it once, I just want to make I just

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Speaker 6: This is not a monol monolithic thing, like it's not

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, you said at.

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Speaker 5: Say that cal has Why don't you I don't say

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Speaker 5: But why won't these guys you included say John Caliperi

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Speaker 6: There's no evidence that he won't either? Is that fair? Well?

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Speaker 5: Six straight years, six straight years of winning one NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 7: Game, Okay, I mean, but like once again, like I've

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Speaker 6: Year, then I would have to be critical.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I did not come into the season expecting

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Speaker 7: I think what we're seeing right now from Arkansas is

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Speaker 6: Be at flat period. Like nobody's making excuses about that

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Speaker 6: it's been bad. It's been horrifically bad thus far in SECC.

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Speaker 5: Do you and I'll finish with this because you have

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Speaker 5: I don't want you to think I'm not trying to.

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Speaker 6: You and I are boys.

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Speaker 5: We're just we've we've been I do too, and which

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 7: I disagree with that, okay, but can can we call

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Speaker 6: You are referring to Seth.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So let's just let's just talk about my character

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Speaker 6: Do you think I do you think I've met.

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Speaker 7: Let's be honest about Like, when I go to Big

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Speaker 5: I think you love it because it's good for your brand.

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Speaker 6: No wait wait wait if you think if I get cheered,

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Speaker 5: I think everybody likes to get cheered.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I've been. I've been. I've played against Kentucky before.

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Speaker 5: Like you were good in that game too. You were

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Speaker 6: Keith Vogans is my boy.

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Speaker 6: I don't use the word attack. You could be critical, right,

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Speaker 7: I mean I might go into things sometimes I was

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Speaker 6: I was wrong about that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, And that's appreciate you saying I appreciate you saying that.

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Speaker 5: And ultimately we all make mistakes. If I had a

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Speaker 5: Are you guys gonna be in Lexington at all during this?

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Speaker 6: I mean, we better be in Lexington. I mean I

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Speaker 5: Know if Seth will get the greatest reception when you

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Speaker 7: If he doesn't, then I might have the camera on

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Speaker 5: Because I'd love to combine. Hey, Jay, thank you very

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Speaker 5: much for taking the time and doing this and coming in.

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Speaker 5: I hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 6: You got him now, you too, brother, appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: This, Uh will take a break, be right back.

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Speaker 6: KOSR.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, take you sports Radio. So Shannon Brian was here, there's.

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Speaker 3: A one hundred chance he would have been hiding under

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Speaker 3: the table.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was very entertaining.

447
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was watching you. You smiled the whole time. Yeah,

448
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Speaker 5: So what were your thoughts on it?

449
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Speaker 3: Well, you sensationalizing journalists, I think that's what he said.

450
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 3: You're very good at sensationalizing everything, you know. I felt

451
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Speaker 3: like at first you guys were kind of talking in circles.

452
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Speaker 3: I was a little by some of the things that

453
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Speaker 3: he said.

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Speaker 4: But you know.

455
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Speaker 3: I know he said a lot of things that we

456
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Speaker 3: as Kentucky fans don't love.

457
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Speaker 4: But I love Jay Williams. I actually do.

458
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Speaker 5: I do too. I actually really like him a lot.

459
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Speaker 5: And the only part that wor he'd meet it all

460
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Speaker 5: is when he said attacking his I'm not attacking his

461
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Speaker 5: character at all. I think he's I think he's like

462
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Speaker 5: a good dude. I think these people it's sort of

463
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Speaker 5: like I think these people sort of they say things,

464
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Speaker 5: and they say him in the moment, and then you

465
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Speaker 5: say it, and then it's like when you bring up later.

466
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Speaker 5: Not to his credit, he said I was wrong, but

467
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Speaker 5: there has certainly always been an implication that BBN is

468
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Speaker 5: a little crazy. And that was my point. When he

469
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Speaker 5: leaned in and said, who you gonna get? We know

470
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Speaker 5: what he meant, which is they're not going to be

471
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Speaker 5: as good. And I wish he just owned that, and

472
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Speaker 5: he did and said he was that he was wrong,

473
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Speaker 5: and that's that's good.

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Speaker 3: And for being honest, I said that myself for a

475
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Speaker 3: long time.

476
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Speaker 4: Who are we gonna get? That's any better?

477
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Speaker 3: I'm glad though he came on he owned it, like

478
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Speaker 3: you said, he acknowledged he was wrong and he's right

479
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Speaker 3: about another thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when you're on the air for that long.

481
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Speaker 3: For four you're gonna say you've got to have a take,

482
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Speaker 3: and sometimes that take is going to be right wrong,

483
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Speaker 3: and I don't.

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Speaker 5: Think people do give enough leeway for that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I do think he likes Big Blue Nation.

487
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Speaker 5: I also think though notice even here he's like, they

488
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Speaker 5: still won't say like that. Maybe. I mean, first question,

489
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Speaker 5: why do you think Cal's performing like this?

490
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Speaker 3: He brings up the ad, Yeah, which I don't know

491
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Speaker 3: what that has to do with him now.

492
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Speaker 5: When he I don't think it was Jay, but it

493
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Speaker 5: was somebody else that when when the thing separated, the

494
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Speaker 5: first comment was, well, the AD's not giving him the support. Well,

495
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Speaker 5: I can tell you that was like what Cali Perry

496
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Speaker 5: was telling everything was happening. So Mitch Barnhardt doesn't call

497
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Speaker 5: those people, so they're not going to get his side

498
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Speaker 5: of it, right. But the one thing I like about well,

499
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Speaker 5: I like many things about Jay, but he will always

500
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Speaker 5: be entertaining and he doesn't take any of the disagreements personally.

501
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Speaker 5: He's already texted me the fire emoji multiple times, so

502
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Speaker 5: I know he is very happy about the ex person.

503
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 3: To come on and go on total like that and

504
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Speaker 3: be combative on the air and still not take it personally.

505
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Speaker 5: And that's what That's what I like, people who will

506
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Speaker 5: go at it and not take it personal, which is

507
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Speaker 5: which I do really like about him. All Right, So

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Speaker 5: I went long on the first segment, So we're going

509
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Speaker 5: to take another break. Here he if I'm nine two

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Speaker 5: twenty two eighty seven, we will take your calls. Be

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Speaker 5: right back. It's Kentucky Sports Radio. TJ Smith, personal injury

512
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Speaker 5: Back Tekey Sports Radio text machine lighting up Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what you like to see, right, interview.

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Speaker 5: It seems like the vast majority of you were really

520
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Speaker 5: entertained by the interview there. I'll give you a couple

521
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Speaker 5: comments both ways. One person was right, goes Matt. You

522
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 5: talked over him like you tend to do. I don't

523
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Speaker 5: know why you do that. You should let people answer.

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Speaker 5: You're did talk over him, maybe slightly more than I

525
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 5: wanted to. But I also will say people want you

526
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Speaker 5: to get to the heart of questions, and you can't

527
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 5: do that unless you talk over people, because if you

528
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 5: just let people like Jay's could be a politician, right

529
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Speaker 5: like he like he's good at like redeflecting, and so

530
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Speaker 5: you have to stay on that. So but yes, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I certainly do talk over people because you're trying to

532
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Speaker 5: make a show and get him to answer the question,

533
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Speaker 5: which to his credit, I think he did another person, Rightes.

534
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Speaker 5: I like Jay, but he's acting like he didn't mean

535
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Speaker 5: what he meant, which was we wouldn't be as good

536
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Speaker 5: without col as we ended up being Yeah, and he

537
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Speaker 5: finally said that, but that was what he meant by

538
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Speaker 5: that comment.

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Speaker 3: At first we played that clipping goes, I didn't mean that,

540
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Speaker 3: and then like a minute, let he goes, I meant

541
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Speaker 3: exactly what I said. That's why I was like, well,

542
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Speaker 3: wait a minute, that's confusing.

543
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Speaker 4: I don't understand what he's what he's saying.

544
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Speaker 5: Then, yeah, so you know, but I do think, like

545
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Speaker 5: I said, I think he's great. And I thought if

546
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Speaker 5: there was a piece of news that came out of that,

547
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 5: is that he was banned from Duke's practices.

548
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know that.

549
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Speaker 5: I didn't know that either, and I don't know that that.

550
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Speaker 5: I don't know that that's ever even been said before.

551
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Speaker 5: I would think, Shannon, I I'm not sure that that

552
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Speaker 5: has ever been said before.

553
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Speaker 3: Do you Probably not. I don't know, like what context

554
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Speaker 3: or what show he would say that on.

555
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 5: I don't, Yeah, I don't. I don't know that.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you just tweeted that out.

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Speaker 5: I don't. But that is really interesting because you know,

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Speaker 5: he and Coach K I think always did have. I mean,

560
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Speaker 5: I'm sure he really I know he respects Coach K,

561
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Speaker 5: but they did have a little bit of a tense

562
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Speaker 5: relationship in some of his years afterwards, probably based on television.

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Speaker 5: I think Jay Billis and Coach K have had that

564
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Speaker 5: as well. That's a tough thing for somebody who played

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Speaker 5: Grant you, if you played for a coach to have

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Speaker 5: to then talk about him, Shannon, that would be really really.

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Speaker 3: Hard yep put you in a tough situation, kind of

568
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Speaker 3: like we were talking about earlier, being friends with somebody and

569
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Speaker 3: then you have to go and be critical of him.

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Speaker 4: It can't be easy.

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Speaker 5: He was dude. If you're just talking about college basketball players,

572
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Speaker 5: he is one of the best of my lifetime. Like

573
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to think who are the best college just

574
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Speaker 5: college only players of my lifetime. I'm going to start

575
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Speaker 5: in like nineteen ninety because I don't know the eighties

576
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Speaker 5: guys well enough, like you're Patrick Ewings, although they were great.

577
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Speaker 5: I hate to say it, but Lightner is one of them.

578
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Speaker 5: Anthony Davis is one of them, Kevin Durant is one

579
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Speaker 5: of them. Trey Young at that year at Oklahoma was insane.

580
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Speaker 5: John Wall Jay Williams. Jay Williams was a beast in college.

581
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Speaker 5: Shane Battier was really really good in college. I'm trying

582
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Speaker 5: to think about a Yukon, a Mecca Oka four was

583
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Speaker 5: a great college player, like a great college player. Who

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Speaker 5: am I missing here? I mean, if you're just talking

585
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Speaker 5: about dudes that you were, like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it was pretty damn good.

587
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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, the early nineties Larry Johnson at

588
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Speaker 5: UNLV Shack is great. That's a great one. Chris Weber

589
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 5: at Michigan and Latner and Mashburn those five dudes I

590
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Speaker 5: just mentioned Shannon, they all played at the same time.

591
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Speaker 4: Those five guys.

592
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Speaker 5: That's a pretty amazing list. Sitting here. Also thinking about

593
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Speaker 5: Jerry Stackhouse when he was at North Carolina was a dude.

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Speaker 5: As much as I hate to say it, though, the

595
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Speaker 5: best college player of my lifetime, at least nineteen ninety on,

596
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Speaker 5: is probably Christian Labor.

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Speaker 4: It's painful to say, huh.

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Speaker 5: I mean, would you say somebody else? I mean part

599
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Speaker 5: of it is he played.

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Speaker 4: Four years, yeah right, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Won two titles. And the thing about that Kentucky game, Dude,

602
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Speaker 5: he went ten for ten from the field and ten

603
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Speaker 5: for ten from the line, and if he misses one

604
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 5: of those shots, Shannon, we win.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough to pick. That's a tough argument to

607
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Speaker 3: say that somebody.

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Speaker 5: Jay was up there, Bradley, go ahead.

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Speaker 12: Bradley, Hey, good morning. I thought it was important to

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Speaker 12: point out too that for Kentucky fans after the last

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Speaker 12: five years that we've had with Catle Perry, and I'm

612
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Speaker 12: not rooting for him to fail at all.

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Speaker 6: I've been.

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Speaker 12: I was appreciative of what he did while he was there,

615
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Speaker 12: but this year him not doing so well and us

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Speaker 12: exceeding expectations has been kind of cathartic as a Kentucky fan.

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Speaker 5: I believe, yes, now, it won't be as cathartic if

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Speaker 5: we lose in a week. To have it would be

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Speaker 5: pretty unod that would be terrible, But for right now,

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Speaker 5: I think you're right appreciate the call because I think,

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Speaker 5: all right, so, I was critiquing Jay in the national

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Speaker 5: media about what they were gonna say shit, and there

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Speaker 5: was a part of all of us that was still

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Speaker 5: nervous it would work out right.

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Speaker 4: With Pope absolutely yes, or just.

626
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Speaker 5: That like cow might go there and go to the

627
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Speaker 5: final four this year? Yep, wasn't there a part of

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Speaker 5: us that was I'll admit there was a little part

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Speaker 5: of me that was like, oh, what if he goes

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Speaker 5: there and kills well.

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Speaker 3: None of us thought he was going to go and

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Speaker 3: have the type of season he's having right now. I

633
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Speaker 3: didn't think there was any scenario because I mean, he

634
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Speaker 3: took the roster that you had at Kentucky, add in

635
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Speaker 3: a few freshmen that were going to kink to Kentucky, and.

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Speaker 5: And the thing you have to remember is that would

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Speaker 5: have been our roster here.

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Speaker 4: Yep, that's that would have been What would this.

639
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 5: Play place have been like if we were zero and five.

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Speaker 3: They would have been ready to fire him mid season.

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of it is ready to fire him,

642
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Speaker 3: you know.

643
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Speaker 4: Last year.

644
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Speaker 5: Can you imagine how toxic. This place would have been

645
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Speaker 5: if we were owing five. Oh my goodness, Brandon, go ahead, Brandon.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I was just wondering, what the chances you

647
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Speaker 3: think of Kentucky making it to a Final four within.

648
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Speaker 6: Like the next five years would be high, very.

649
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Speaker 5: High in the next five years. Yeah, I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 5: eighty percent to make a Final four in the next

651
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Speaker 5: five years. Yeah, because they've got a shot to make

652
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 5: one this year. They got a shot. So if you're

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Speaker 5: telling me, I think every team we have in the

654
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: in the future will be as talented, if not more

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Speaker 5: than this one. So yeah, I think for sure.

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Speaker 4: Okay, thanks, you appreciate the call.

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Speaker 5: Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean I know that Pope hasn't won an NCAA

660
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Speaker 3: tournament game, but he's never had a roster and been

661
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Speaker 3: at Kentucky and had the opportunity. It's a little bit

662
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: different when you're at BYU versus at Kentucky. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that he's got a legit chance.

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Speaker 5: Blake Griffin, that's a good one. You forget how good

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Speaker 5: Blake Griffin was in Oklahoma. Zion, It's easy to think

666
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Speaker 5: about Zion being you know what he is now, but dude,

667
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Speaker 5: he was. He had some games at Duke where it

668
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Speaker 5: was just insane what.

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Speaker 4: He could Steph Curry in the tournament. That in the.

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Speaker 5: Tournament, But I don't remember watching him a ton in

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Speaker 5: the like in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: Is it really on anybody's radar until yeah, the tournament.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm sure if I'm sure he was

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Speaker 5: on some people's radar. That was the time I wasn't

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Speaker 5: following college basketball. I mean, I was doing the blog,

676
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Speaker 5: but I was really into Kentucky. But in the tournament,

677
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Speaker 5: that tournament run is legendary. David, go ahead, David, ay many,

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Speaker 5: thank you, sir.

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Speaker 13: I'm doing a fine And I was gonna I was

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Speaker 13: gonna remind you, just remind Jay that Tayshaw did not

681
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Speaker 13: fell him in that last place.

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Speaker 6: In the two thousand and one that was a great.

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Speaker 5: Game in New Jersey. I was in law school that year.

684
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Speaker 5: I wanted him to win so much, David, and we lost,

685
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 5: and that was Rashad Kruz barking at the thing. And

686
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Speaker 5: that was a heck of a game.

687
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Speaker 4: He didn't want to talk about that.

688
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Speaker 5: He must not like Rashad Kruz. He was quick to

689
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Speaker 5: he was quick to change the subject on that one,

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Speaker 5: But go ahead, David.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I was wondering about if you could add a

692
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Speaker 13: cow player to this year's team, a former cow player,

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Speaker 13: what would it be who I think what.

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Speaker 5: This year's team could really use. Well, I appreciate the call. Well,

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Speaker 5: I would, of course, Shannon add Anthony Dates. I would

696
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Speaker 5: add Anthony Davis to any team, but especially this team.

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Speaker 5: You put these shooters around Anthony Davis. Forget it, We're

698
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Speaker 5: not losing a game.

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Speaker 3: That's it. I mean, you don't need to add any

700
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: more shooters. You've already got a roster built around that.

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Speaker 3: You need somebody inside that's just a great defender.

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Speaker 5: So Anthony Davis is the answer. Even like a Willie

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Speaker 5: call stop, because Willie was a good passer and he

704
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Speaker 5: was at that high post thing, like, I think that

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Speaker 5: would work. So I'd want number one rim protector and

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Speaker 5: then number two. I'd want a really good player who

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Speaker 5: was really good on defense but could still shoot out

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Speaker 5: on the perimeter. So like a case in Wallace or something.

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Speaker 4: Like that, I'll give you one more.

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Speaker 3: Now, he may clog the lane and may change things

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Speaker 3: a little bit, but how would you not want a

712
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Speaker 3: guy that can get you twenty rebounds a night and

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Speaker 3: kick it back out for another three in Oscar.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know though, I mean Oscar would help.

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Speaker 5: Obviously he would fix the rebounding yep. But I don't

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Speaker 5: still a group that needs space. So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Will it if anybody deserves to.

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Speaker 5: As the line he has, uh, they like to call

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Speaker 5: I get the message from the woman I went out

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Speaker 5: with twelve years ago. Hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh hey, what's up?

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Speaker 5: You been tutic ark song game? I mean, I know

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Speaker 5: for you to write me so that I could do it.

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Speaker 5: Some other guys who were amazing in college. This was

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Speaker 5: this is a great one. Michael Beasley.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Kansas State.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, he if you They weren't a very good team,

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Speaker 5: but he would. I think he averaged like twenty six

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Speaker 5: and thirteen for the year.

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Speaker 4: He would.

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Speaker 5: He was He was crazy. I'll tell you another one

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Speaker 5: that was a lot better than you remember. Tyler Hansborough.

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Speaker 5: Tyler Hansboro in college was insane. Joe kim Noah in

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Speaker 5: college was insane. Tim Duncan, both in college and in

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Speaker 5: the NBA was insane. Carmelo of course one yep, along

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Speaker 5: with ad really the only freshman to sort of carry

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Speaker 5: a team to a title. I like all, I like

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Speaker 5: all these answers. It's good stuff. CJ. What's up? CJ?

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Speaker 10: Can can we uh get these talking heads on ESPN

787
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Speaker 10: that just shut up? Because if the road to rehearse,

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Speaker 10: do you think they wouldn't be killing us? They would

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Speaker 10: be daily.

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Speaker 5: First of all, that's a great point that I wish

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Speaker 5: I'd made in the conversation, because I don't think you

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Speaker 5: could ask people on TV not to talk, or it

793
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Speaker 5: would be hard to do their job. But you're right.

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Speaker 5: If Cal was good and we were zero and five,

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Speaker 5: forget it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they would have been like, yep, see what it is,

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Speaker 3: Hall of fame coach, and this is what you got.

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Speaker 5: You're exactly right, CJ. We would have never heard the

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Speaker 5: end of it if the roles were reversed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And also Cal stinks. I'm glad he's gone.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate call. No, I mean, I like you remember Sad

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Speaker 5: said something like, just worry about your team. Do you

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Speaker 5: not think Seth Greenberg would be dancing on our graves?

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Speaker 4: Of course if we were zero and five, you.

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Speaker 5: Can they would. That's a really good, a really really

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Speaker 5: good point, Randall, Go ahead, Randall, Hey man.

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Speaker 14: I'm gonna say that. I believe that you said it earlier.

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Speaker 14: Coach Cal and are the brands of Kentucky and the

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Speaker 14: Wildcats is just better. You know that it makes players

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Speaker 14: and coaches better. And if the if Cal and the

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Speaker 14: players were at Kentucky, I think you know that the

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Speaker 14: record may be even a little, you know, look a

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Speaker 14: little bit different. But in the in the future, for

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Speaker 14: like the players we have now, they they are better,

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Speaker 14: you know, than they were at other places they were

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Speaker 14: because it's the brand itself.

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Speaker 5: I firmly believe that I do. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 5: and I appreciate the call. A coach can succeed and

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Speaker 5: not be here, obviously, but if you come here you

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Speaker 5: will be better. You will be better. In the other respect,

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Speaker 5: If you come here and go somewhere else, you're gonna

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Speaker 5: be worse. Doesn't mean you can't be successful, but you

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Speaker 5: won't be as successful as you would be here. So

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Speaker 5: a guy like Danny Hurley has won two straight titles,

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Speaker 5: so it'd be hard to be more successful than that.

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Speaker 5: But one thing he could have done at UK has

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Speaker 5: had all of his games on ESPN, and he would

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Speaker 5: be even more well known than he is now now.

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Speaker 5: Shannon that might not have worked well considering his temper,

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Speaker 5: But like this is, you have to have a lot

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Speaker 5: talent and takes you to where it's like, oh wow.

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Speaker 3: You know, players are always going to want to come

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Speaker 3: to Kentucky just because it's Kentucky, just.

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Speaker 5: Because I have talent to do the super Bowl halftime show.

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Speaker 5: But then once you do the super Bowl halftime show,

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Speaker 5: then you're on a new level. Same thing here, Duke Carolina.

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Speaker 5: What's interesting about those three jobs though, is they all

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Speaker 5: went to coaches who had never won an NCAA tournament

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Speaker 5: game when they took him. That's very unique. Mike got

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Speaker 9: Go ahead, Mike, Yeah, the guy you tell us you

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Speaker 9: mad mouthing about his song, that's Mac davis Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we played I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 9: It's just a different Oh. He was a cod you know,

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Speaker 9: movie actor all this. Uh you mentioned something about it.

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Speaker 9: I don't know. No matter what couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 9: we chair one. But I agree with Cameron Mills. If

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Speaker 9: you watch if you've ever watched that game, you watch

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Speaker 9: He didn't just step on a Me New Timberlake. He

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. I appreciate the call, Poor me New Timberlake.

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