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Speaker 5: Morning, fun music, music, good luck, good luck, Ohio State alone.

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Speaker 8: I know, no, no, no, I'm still good and I'm all good.

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to figure out who's gonna be on our

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Speaker 8: team next year watching all this happen.

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Speaker 9: What what happened to you guys in that game?

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Speaker 10: By the way, didn't we cover this last week?

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Speaker 8: I was trying to figure that out. We did? For

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Speaker 8: I think we did cover it?

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Speaker 3: Can you tell me?

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Speaker 1: Can you can you tell me? I'm a Big tenor

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Speaker 1: you're a Big tenner, you know.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think there's any secret.

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Speaker 8: You know, Miami won game at line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 8: you know, like Ruben Days a heck of a football player,

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Speaker 8: that that offensive that right tackle they have is a

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Speaker 8: brick wall. And you know, we'll see how it looks

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Speaker 8: tonight against Old miss But yeah, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 8: LeVar LeVar is a line of scrimmage game, right, and

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Speaker 8: Miami won that game in the line of script.

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Speaker 1: I could dig it. I could dig it.

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Speaker 9: Gohead. Who you're rooting for? Miss?

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Speaker 8: Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I mean, well, I'm rooting for the Big Ten teams.

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Speaker 8: So like whether it's Indiana or Oregon, Like I I

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Speaker 8: hope the Big Ten brings home another championship. That'd be

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Speaker 8: three in a row, right.

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Speaker 10: You know what's interesting though, So.

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Speaker 8: If Miami wins tonight, that would be three straight years

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Speaker 8: with no SEC team in the title game.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, but they're the best conference right right?

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, it just means more.

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Speaker 8: It's uh, you know when they when when they don't

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Speaker 8: win games or they don't win you know that they

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Speaker 8: don't win in the playoffs, that's just because they weren't

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Speaker 6: Then there's the other adage.

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Speaker 5: They try to stack the deck with five teams to

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Speaker 5: show that their conference is the best. And meanwhile, through

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Speaker 5: the playoff in bull season, we've seen that's clearly not

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're the deepest unless they choose not to win

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Speaker 8: the bowl games, right like, because that's that's the only way.

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Speaker 8: Either the bowl games show how strong the SEC was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're the only team that has opt outs. There's

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Speaker 5: no other team that has opt outs. It's just SEC

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Speaker 8: But Brady, they are. They're undefeated in hypothetical games.

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Speaker 6: That is correct.

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Speaker 5: They've won the last national championships in hypothetical games.

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Speaker 8: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about what's going on in Baltimore. You know,

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Speaker 1: obviously Harball and the Ravens mutually agree to part ways.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any insight that isn't maybe being discussed

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Speaker 8: So I think like.

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Speaker 10: It's just sort of maybe run its course.

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Speaker 8: I think there are a couple things to look at here, LeVar.

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Speaker 8: I think the first thing is the level of expectation

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Speaker 10: And they've had some really good.

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Speaker 8: Teams there over the years, but they really felt like

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Speaker 10: There are there are reasons.

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Speaker 8: The record wasn't great, and you know, you lose Lamar

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Speaker 8: contribute to it. They had a rash of injuries there

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Speaker 8: But you finished eight and nine and you had a

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Speaker 8: chance to get in the playoffs and you don't do it. So,

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Speaker 8: you know, not living up to expectations in a year

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Speaker 8: part of it. The other piece of it that I

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Speaker 8: there's been a lot of back and forth on this

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Speaker 8: do my best to clarify it. As far as I know,

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Speaker 8: I do think John Harry as a players coach, and

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Speaker 8: I think if you talk to the people who've played

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Speaker 8: for him, most of them love him, right, And he's

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Speaker 8: been over the years adaptable, He's changed schemes, he's he's

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Speaker 8: adjusted the way he does things. The thing about it, though,

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Speaker 8: but John certainly is. It just takes a certain type

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Speaker 10: He'll do everything as players need.

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Speaker 8: But I think it just takes a certain type of

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Speaker 8: and I'm just not sure over the last couple of

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Speaker 8: just it just felt like, you know, when you talk

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Speaker 8: more of a disconnect there and just do the players

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Speaker 8: do the players that we have now match up with

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Speaker 8: the program the same way it was say five years

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Speaker 8: think that's sort of you know, where those discussions went over,

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Speaker 8: you know, the afternoon that he and Steve Bashatti sat

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Speaker 8: that they arrived at was that it was just time

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Speaker 8: for everybody to move on after eighteen years. And I

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Speaker 8: don't think there's any acrimony there. I think he's going

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Speaker 8: to be you know, obviously his name is going to

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Speaker 8: And there were a lot of players in that locker

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Speaker 8: I just I just feel feel like for that reason

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Speaker 5: A couple of things we talked about or have been

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Speaker 6: He's got a huge cap hit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in twenty twenty six, they obviously have to restructure

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Speaker 5: that he doesn't have any representation and it's just kind

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Speaker 5: of wondering because there was times where it felt like

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Speaker 6: Lamar or John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 5: And if that's the case, I mean obviously Lamar won out,

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Speaker 5: or at least he was, you know, ultimately who ended

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Speaker 5: up surviving this. Yeah, but what do you make of

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Speaker 5: kind of moving forward, like what this is going to

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Speaker 5: look like as far as the coach they're going to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So like let's start with the contract, because I

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Speaker 8: do think that affects the play, right, Like, And I

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Speaker 8: had somebody point out to me that somebody who knows

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Speaker 8: this situation pretty intimately point out to me that, you know,

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Speaker 8: like Lamar, the years when he's missed time due to

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Speaker 8: So twenty one, in twenty two and then this year,

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Speaker 10: Then and and and and it's just.

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Speaker 8: I mean it's just something that that's that those are facts, right, Like,

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Speaker 8: so that's out there. So like I think part of

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Speaker 8: going to do a new contract with him? Which they

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Speaker 8: they looked at the idea of doing it in the

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Speaker 8: lost off season after Josh Allen got his contract. Correction,

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Speaker 8: they don't do it, they get like a little bit

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Speaker 8: he's taken on so much more damage than than most

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Speaker 8: do a contract with him, are we going to get

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Speaker 10: And so I think those are all questions you have

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Speaker 8: You do fifty two million dollars this coming year, most

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Speaker 8: of it's guaranteed. He's do fifty two million dollars in

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty seven. None of that's guaranteed. So that's what's

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Speaker 10: So do you go back?

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Speaker 5: You got a seventy four and a half million dollar

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Speaker 10: And and do you do you go so do you

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Speaker 8: Do you go in and say, yep, you're going to

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Speaker 6: Get him on x.

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Speaker 7: At Albert Breer, Abe, what have you heard, if anything

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Speaker 10: Or six years, and so you know, certainly there's.

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Speaker 10: No, they haven't announced anything yet.

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Speaker 10: All right, Well, what I think?

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Speaker 11: that means.

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Speaker 10: No, he's not lame duck because he.

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Speaker 8: He did just get an extension. But I do think

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Speaker 8: that there's pressure on him. I think there's pressure on

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Speaker 8: a lot of people there. I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 8: I think like one of the big questions I'd have

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Speaker 8: going forward is like what they're going to do with

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Speaker 8: Baker Mayfield now, because he's like twenty twenty six is

449
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Speaker 8: a contract here for Baker. So I think we were

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Speaker 8: all thinking, like in September and October, of course they're

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Speaker 8: going to resign him, and I think they still will.

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Speaker 8: But is that a little bit more difficult of a

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Speaker 8: negotiation now based on how the last you know, two

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Speaker 8: months of the season went, it might be you know.

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Speaker 7: So.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think if if.

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Speaker 8: You're taught Todd Bowles, the fact that like, and you know,

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Speaker 8: I always feel this way guys, right, Like it's like

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Speaker 8: the same thing with like what Indianapolis did with Shane

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Speaker 8: Stike and Chris Dollard. When there needs.

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Speaker 10: To be an announcement that the.

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Speaker 8: Team is keeping you on, that means you're that means

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Speaker 8: you are on the hot seats going into the next year,

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean, Like, like for example, like,

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Speaker 8: the Patriots are not announcing that Mike Rabel will be

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Speaker 8: back next year, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: The Bronxos, the Dolphins.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the Broncos are not announcing, but Mike McDaniel might

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Speaker 8: not be. I mean, I think that John harbaughton complicates that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I I would say this with Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 8: in Miami, right, Like, So, they put out five interview

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Speaker 8: requests for general manager candidates on Monday, right, All five

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Speaker 8: of those guys had connections to McDaniel, All five of them, right,

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Speaker 8: whether it was through McDaniel's friends or they'd worked with

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Speaker 8: McDaniel directly, they all had connections to McDaniels. Then on Tuesday,

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Speaker 8: the Dolphins turned around and put in an interview request

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Speaker 8: for the Chargers assistant general manager, Chad Alexander.

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Speaker 10: Who does who would the Chargers assistant.

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Speaker 8: General manager work with? Yep? So and so like do

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Speaker 8: you see that and say the Dolphins had like some

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Speaker 8: sort of tip off that John Harbaugh was about to

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Speaker 8: become available, So they're preparing themselves for the possibility that

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Speaker 8: they wind up with Harbor, which would mean that they.

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Speaker 10: Would have to get a general manager that would line.

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Speaker 8: Up with him, like I I can just tell you, you know,

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Speaker 8: Stee and Brady you were down there. You don't you

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Speaker 8: don't need me to tell you. Steve Ross, you know

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Speaker 8: has you know, has connections to the Harbaugh family, and

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Speaker 8: you know, he made a run at getting Jim in

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Speaker 8: I think it was two thousand and ten or eleven before.

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Speaker 10: He went to the Niners. I think was two thousand,

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Speaker 10: I think it.

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Speaker 8: Was ten, tried to get him out of Stanford. It didn't,

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Speaker 8: it didn't. It didn't happen at a time, and then

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Speaker 8: you know, had had discussions about trying to get John.

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Speaker 8: I think it was in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen

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Speaker 8: when the when the Ravens and Harbaugh weren't a contract negotiation.

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Speaker 8: So I would I would certainly not rule out the Dolphins.

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Speaker 10: Making you know, a run.

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Speaker 8: And the thing that's tricky about is like how do

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Speaker 8: you pull that off? You know what I mean? Like, so,

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Speaker 8: if you only are firing McDaniel, if you're going to

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Speaker 8: wind up with John, then you need to get a commitment,

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Speaker 8: a quiet commitment from John. So you have to have

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Speaker 8: had something worked out with.

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Speaker 10: John and then you fire Mike and you've got.

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Speaker 8: To satisfy the Rooney rule. It can be kind of

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Speaker 8: complicated to do that, but.

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Speaker 10: You know, I would say I would.

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Speaker 8: Say that there's not a zero percent chance as that happens.

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Speaker 3: Wow, good stuff.

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Speaker 7: Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, Lead Content Strategies at the MMQB.

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Speaker 3: Get him on x at A. Yeah, we don't care

514
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Speaker 3: that they're eliminated.

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Speaker 8: All right, you can keep playing the fight song.

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Speaker 10: I don't know who's gonna be on the team, but

517
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Speaker 10: you got to keep.

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Speaker 8: Playing the fight song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're fine. Yeah, everything's it.

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Speaker 8: Seems like it seems like everything's happening in the transfer

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Speaker 8: port portal right now is super rational.

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Speaker 5: Huh Well, let me ask you this, like, how many

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Speaker 5: teams does that really worked out for? I mean, maybe

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Speaker 5: you'd say it has so far this year for Old

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Speaker 5: Miss and maybe some others, but I don't know. It's

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Speaker 5: Miami you got back. I mean, he hasn't been leading

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Speaker 5: the way and they had some of those guys.

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Speaker 8: Going on that I don't I don't think it's good

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Speaker 8: for the players either, to be honest with you, Like

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Speaker 8: I'm all four players getting paid, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 8: but like I think this is gonna be so destructive,

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Speaker 8: destructive for the players too, And I yeah, I mean

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Speaker 8: it's just the whole thing is that the whole thing is.

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Speaker 11: A complete mass, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, right down to and I would say this too,

536
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Speaker 8: like I think it's in the long run, it's gonna

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Speaker 8: wind up affecting a lot of kids' ability to develop up.

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Speaker 8: And you know, like the NFL doesn't really develop you,

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean, Like unless you're a first

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Speaker 8: round pick or the two of you guys were, you know,

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Speaker 8: most guys that come into the NFL, you know, you're

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Speaker 8: instantly fighting for a job and they're not going to

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Speaker 8: give you four or five years to develop. And so

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Speaker 8: if you're not doing it in college, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: It just it seems like it's not good for the sport,

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Speaker 8: it's not good for the players. I know that there

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Speaker 8: are keep some people that are profiting for it but

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Speaker 8: from it. But it just feels to me like we

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Speaker 8: need to meet, we need to get ah, we need

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Speaker 8: to have somebody in charge, whether that's Nick Saban, whoever

551
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Speaker 8: else to to to to come in and be the

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Speaker 8: commissioner of college football and clean this mess up. Maybe

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Speaker 8: you could do it, Brady, what do you think well, first.

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Speaker 5: Off, you don't have the guard rolls that you need

555
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Speaker 5: up right now. I mean there's no no commissioner walking

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Speaker 5: right now is going to have any power because there's

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Speaker 5: no entity over top.

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Speaker 6: Of any of this that's going to start what's happening.

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Speaker 5: So right until you have some sort of anti trust protection,

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Speaker 5: until you get to the point where like these guys

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Speaker 5: are viewed as employees or everyone define them and they

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Speaker 5: can work out a CBA, none of it matters because

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Speaker 5: they're just gonna take you to court every single time

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Speaker 5: and they're probably going to.

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Speaker 8: Win, right right right, So anyway, rip college football? All right?

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Speaker 7: Way to stick the landing. Uh, there is Albert Breer

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Speaker 7: with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Thinks AP would

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Speaker 7: do it again next week? Is it is two pros

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Speaker 7: and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 7: Up next, we continue the conversation. The playoff is back

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Speaker 7: and it's yours tonight right here on FSR.

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Speaker 1: You know what's going on tonight with that big game

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Speaker 1: that's almost hair well, we're talking about some Louisiana hot sauce,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, these players are made of grit, you know,

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Speaker 1: they have drive, a whole lot of heart, and so

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Speaker 1: does original Louisiana Hot sauce because it's may with real

577
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Speaker 1: good stuff too, you know, only like three simple ingredients

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Speaker 1: that make it special.

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Speaker 9: In fact, I'm gonna make some ribs this morning.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to use that Louisiana Hot sauce on

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Speaker 1: them to season them up, and I will actually mix

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Speaker 1: it into my own home special sauce for the finish.

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Speaker 1: Go imagine that I'm gonna mix a little something something

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Speaker 1: with a little dab of something something to go with

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Speaker 1: that original Louisiana Hot sauce.

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Speaker 9: For my rub And you know what, you could do the.

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Speaker 1: Same exact thing on your wings, your pizzas, your gumbo.

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Speaker 1: You know, time seems to slow down when you use

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Speaker 1: original Louisiana Hot sauce because it's just that good and

590
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Speaker 1: it's super simple. So listen, when you can't put your

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Speaker 1: finger quite on what made it so amazing on your tongue,

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Speaker 1: just think about the original Louisiana Hot Sauce and how

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Speaker 1: it's championship pedigree has well, it's almost been for one

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Speaker 1: hundred years and it's got no signs of slowing down.

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Speaker 1: And then you'll be okay with the conclusion that you

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Speaker 1: came to and that you taste buds was telling you,

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Speaker 1: and you'd be like, Wow, that Louisiana legacy. It's delicious,

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Speaker 1: over and over and over again. But don't take my

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Speaker 1: word for it. Go get you some week. Some original

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Speaker 1: Louisiana Hot sauce is made of that championship level stuff.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the peppers, the vinegar, and

602
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Speaker 1: the salt. That's Louisiana Hot sauce.

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Speaker 7: be yours right here on FSR. So, any other interesting

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Speaker 7: subplots or storylines you guys have identified in the Miami

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Speaker 7: Ole Miss matchup coming up later on tonight. I know

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Speaker 7: LeVar is all in. He wants Miami to win. I'm

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Speaker 7: all for America's team. I want Ole Miss to win.

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Speaker 7: I think it would be hilarious. I think it would

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Speaker 7: be It would just be appropriate to see this whole

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Speaker 7: thing play out, even though Lane Kiffin gets a paycheck

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Speaker 7: from each and every win as far as far as

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Speaker 7: Ole Miss.

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Speaker 3: Keeps advancing as long as they do. So there is that.

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Speaker 7: But anything else bout to you guys that you look

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Speaker 7: at and go something to watch, something.

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Speaker 5: To Something that I think we need to figure out

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Speaker 5: moving forward is not having this game in Arizona.

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Speaker 6: You know you've got Whole Miss in Miami.

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Speaker 5: And I realized the National Championship, which is it's different,

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Speaker 5: It's it's bid on by different host cities. So it

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Speaker 5: just so happens that Miami is a game away from

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Speaker 5: playing what Quite honestly, again, I threw this out there like.

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Speaker 6: A couple of weeks ago, or maybe a week ago.

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Speaker 5: This might be the only time ever we see a

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Speaker 5: college football team play a national championship in their home stadium,

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Speaker 5: at least dating back to the days in which you

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Speaker 5: just and maybe before even bowl season, before they just

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Speaker 5: played a regular season schedule. Then people declared who won

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Speaker 5: the national championship. But it'd be pretty wild to see that.

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Speaker 5: But I want to go back to initial point. Like

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Speaker 5: you had Oregon Texas Tech playing in the Orange Bowl

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Speaker 5: in the quarterfinal, you now have the Fiesta Bowl hosting

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Speaker 5: Old Miss in Miami. Two let's just call them East

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Speaker 5: Coast in Miami, then Southeast in Old Miss or in

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Speaker 5: the South. It just logistically, it doesn't make sense for

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Speaker 5: the fans, it doesn't make sense for the teams.

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Speaker 6: I understand the structure of the New Year six.

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Speaker 5: There may be should be some more fluidy in it,

660
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Speaker 5: because here's the problem is, it's going to upset a

661
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Speaker 5: lot of fans and teams to the point where they

662
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 5: keep pushing to not have these bowl games involved at all.

663
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Speaker 5: So here, well, it may or it may not, right

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Speaker 5: because even if we expanded to a larger format, there's

665
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Speaker 5: still the New Year Six Bowls still continue to keep

666
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Speaker 5: you know, trying to stay a part of it, and

667
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Speaker 5: again being a part of one of them, I would

668
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Speaker 5: say they do a tremendous job. But I think the

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Speaker 5: one thing I look at this year and say it's

670
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Speaker 5: been an issue at least in my mind, is obviously

671
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Speaker 5: logistically getting the fans there, getting the teams there. Again,

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Speaker 5: I'm not smart enough to figure out the idea to

673
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Speaker 5: do it, but I think it doesn't bode well for

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Speaker 5: those the New Year Six if they can't figure out

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Speaker 5: a better process of figuring this all out. And furthermore,

676
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Speaker 5: I do think ESPN owns exclusively the rights to these

677
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Speaker 5: playoff games. They've leased some out to TNT, so you

678
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Speaker 5: saw that, but it's ESPN people, so it doesn't really

679
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Speaker 5: feel like.

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Speaker 6: It's actually a T and T broadcast. I don't think

681
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Speaker 6: that's good for the sport either.

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Speaker 5: I think it's actually limited the perspective of how the

683
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Speaker 5: sport should be portrayed to one network. And I think

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Speaker 5: if you look at the NFL's presentation of the Super Bowl.

685
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Speaker 5: The NFL's presentation of the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: It's very much.

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Speaker 5: More diverse and its approach, and I think it's better

688
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Speaker 5: for the sport overall. And in what way, Well, again,

689
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Speaker 5: like you can lend yourself to the theory of, you know,

690
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Speaker 5: we have a twelve team playoff, let's get five teams

691
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Speaker 5: in it because we've got, you know, that conference exclusively

692
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Speaker 5: the rights to it. So from a business standpoint, it's

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Speaker 5: behoof of them to put five teams in if you're

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Speaker 5: the committee that the Again, ESPN's kind of contry to

695
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Speaker 5: this whole thing. So instead of like the NFL, how

696
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Speaker 5: they dictate to all of the you know, the media

697
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Speaker 5: rights to all the TV networks and any of their partners,

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Speaker 5: that's not happening right now.

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Speaker 9: It's ESPN that just has so you know, creative.

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Speaker 5: Pretty much, but you also have essentially and this is

701
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Speaker 5: one of the things that wedn't talked about it. Actually,

702
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Speaker 5: it is funny. It became like the talking point for

703
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Speaker 5: about Notre Dame and this whole Well, if they're in

704
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Speaker 5: the top twelve, they automatically get into the college football

705
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Speaker 5: playoffs starting in twenty twenty six, and that was language

706
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Speaker 5: that was put in for two reasons. One, it is

707
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Speaker 5: language that existed even dating back to the BCS. So

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Speaker 5: all these schools are people out there who didn't realize

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Speaker 5: that that existed.

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Speaker 6: As an independent Notre Dame had got that in.

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Speaker 5: It had been put in. It's been in there again

712
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Speaker 5: since the BCS. Now, it wasn't in there for the

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Speaker 5: fourteen playoff obviously, but once they expanded to twelve, and

714
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Speaker 5: once there was a thought this could go from twelve

715
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Speaker 5: to fourteen, that language.

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Speaker 6: Was then put in.

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Speaker 5: So there's a called ANU, a memorandum of understanding, and

718
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Speaker 5: that's existed within it. Why it became public this year

719
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 5: is purely because someone wanted to put it out there

720
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Speaker 5: or a school was too ignorant to read it in.

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Speaker 6: The first place.

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Speaker 5: But the other reason why it was necessary or to

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Speaker 5: put in there was for scenarios that could potentially play

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Speaker 5: out in the future where based on the language of

725
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 5: the College Football Playoff, you'd be leaving out a team

726
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 5: that's ranked that high, but due to conference championships kind

727
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: of like this year, a team like James Madison gets in.

728
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 5: Where is that probably what's best for the sport. No,

729
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: it was fun and we can have that conversation, but

730
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Speaker 5: maybe we can be more inclusive if it gets to fourteen, sixteen,

731
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Speaker 5: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, and I know we're up on a break,

733
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Speaker 1: but my question would be, I thought it was it

734
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Speaker 1: was intelligent for Fox to invest in and own most

735
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Speaker 1: of the Big ten network. If Fox is considered to

736
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Speaker 1: be the Big ten networks represented of television and media rights,

737
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Speaker 1: and ESPN has the SECU, I don't really care about

738
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Speaker 1: the other ones. But between those two, you know, I

739
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Speaker 1: don't know about I think the Bowl games and my

740
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: estimation are in danger. I think they are just based

741
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Speaker 1: around the environment and the climate of the playoff. But

742
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Speaker 1: I just wonder what that conversation becomes. If I'm Fox

743
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Speaker 1: and I have, like we heard Albert say earlier, we're

744
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: we're on the cusp of the national title belonging to

745
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten for three consecutive years. If there is

746
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Speaker 1: an established amount of dominance, and what comes to the

747
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Speaker 1: table with the Big Ten, If I'm Fox, I'm telling you,

748
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Speaker 1: I got to walk in the room and I got

749
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Speaker 1: to throw it on the table at some point, they're

750
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Speaker 1: at some point like a game on to tell you

751
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Speaker 1: on the table that.

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Speaker 5: They're Big ten let me peel back the layers a

753
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 5: bit more. What do you have in the semi finals?

754
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 5: You have an ACC representative an SEC representative on.

755
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 6: One side, and two Big ten teams. So in essence

756
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 6: you have the exclusive rights. You have the.

757
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 5: Exclusive rights holders for the ACC and SEC, which are ESPN,

758
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 5: and then you have two Big ten teams. So Albert

759
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 5: pointed out the fact that like, hey, if you really

760
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 5: want to go through the numbers, the Big ten has

761
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 5: been better, you know, buy and large, but the narrative

762
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 5: hasn't been spun that because ESPN controls a lot of

763
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Speaker 5: the balls. ESPN controls a heavy portion of the games too.

764
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Speaker 5: They have rights in the Big twelve obviously exclusively SEC

765
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Speaker 5: and ACC. So when you really start kind of breaking

766
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 5: this down, they're the ones that drummed up this narrative

767
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 5: that the SEC is so deep, and they keep telling

768
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 5: their coaches, keep keep saying it, keep telling everyone, keep

769
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Speaker 5: telling what a gauntlet it is. And meanwhile that gauntlet

770
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Speaker 5: just goes away when they get the Bulls season and they.

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Speaker 6: Get the playoff.

772
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Speaker 5: As we've seen it in the expanded Playoff, either they

773
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: either they don't show up or they don't match up

774
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 5: well with with their teams that you're seeing from the

775
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 5: Big Ten, and look, SEC fans will take issue with us,

776
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 5: but like these are facts. This isn't like an opinion

777
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 5: because it's what we've watched the past last year now

778
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 5: into this year. And so if you get a Big

779
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 5: Ten team winning it, if you get Miami beating Old

780
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Speaker 5: Miss and it's an ACC team versus a Big Ten team,

781
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Speaker 5: we know that from that side you have, once again

782
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 5: for three years straight, either a Big Ten team winning

783
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: it or at least in it and without an SEC

784
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 5: team being a part of it. And even the semi

785
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 5: finals it has been majority of Big Ten teams. So

786
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 5: this has been something that's I don't know to say,

787
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 5: it's like a dirty secret. But to your point, the

788
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 5: Big ten conference needs to do a better job of

789
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 5: really forcing because now this this the whole playoff system

790
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: has coming down to the Big Ten and SEC having

791
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 5: control and they ultimately dictate what it looks like moving forward.

792
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 5: And so it's it's really on the Big Ten to

793
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 5: say we need to bring in more network partners because

794
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: our conferences divided up more like the NFL, and that's

795
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 5: what we've become a professor model that should be presented

796
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 5: very much so where you get different perspectives and all

797
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 5: sorts of different people presenting it as opposed to a

798
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Speaker 5: lot of the bias that we've seen in particular this year.

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Speaker 3: Time to find out what's left Towns Incredible. Here's the

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Speaker 3: left over us Ry LARRAI, what we got?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 13: I have some real investigative reporting for you guys, but

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Speaker 13: I'll save that for tomorrow. Because I'm a little short

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Speaker 13: on times. But bad news for the King Lebron James.

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Speaker 13: He will be ineligible for NBA awards if he misses

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Speaker 13: one more game, and he is likely to do so

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Speaker 13: because he said he isn't playing anymore back to backshm.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's unfortunate. Oh he's getting a little older.

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Speaker 9: He's getting a little up there.

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Speaker 5: He's forty one, dude, he's ancient.

847
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Speaker 9: YEAHBA standards getting a little up there.

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Speaker 3: You've been playing well.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you could pull Philip Rivers in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 5: I don't know when's the last time we've seen that

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Speaker 5: someone comes back and plays at forty four after being

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Speaker 5: out for five years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can shoot, you might be able to

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Speaker 1: do it. But other than being able to shoot really well,

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Speaker 1: like where you could just get up and down, cork,

857
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Speaker 1: catch the ball, put it in the bucket. Other than that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to work. They don't play

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Speaker 1: defense anymore anyway in the NBA. Not really, So it's

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Speaker 1: not like you got to be able to guard anybody.

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Speaker 3: Okay, see do but yeah they do, but steal. If

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Speaker 3: you can shoot, you could be old hit Good luck.

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Speaker 13: Lebron, don't get too stiff out there.

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Speaker 3: Whoa