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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone. I'm Rachel Zoe and I'm Roger Burman, and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to works for us. We talk to people

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Speaker 1: about what works in their relationships and of course what doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Today we're talking to one of my absolute most favorite

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Speaker 1: couples and power couples who have very gracefully demonstrated their

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Speaker 1: ability to really grow together and really be the best

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Speaker 1: versions of themselves but also very independent and very individual. Jessica,

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Speaker 1: you are an unstoppable force that I swear every time

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Speaker 1: I think you've kind of capped out, you really have

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Speaker 1: not even scratch the surface of what I think you're

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Speaker 1: still going to do. What I love so much is

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Speaker 1: that what's behind both of your businesses is giving back

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Speaker 1: and charitable practices that I think you guys really lead

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Speaker 1: the charge on it quite honestly, and really are role

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Speaker 1: models for so many other people. And then you also

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Speaker 1: have three magically beautiful children that I am lucky enough

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Speaker 1: to know. And I am of course talking about our friends,

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Speaker 1: Jessica Albat and Cash Warren. Hi guys, Hi, Hi, and

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Speaker 1: Cash Warren her I would never forget Cash. I'm his

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Speaker 1: number one fan, Cash Law Like me, Cash is the

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Speaker 1: man behind the woman for all of those listening. So

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Speaker 1: let's give a little pops to Cash. Cash also as

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Speaker 1: a film producer who has grown into a successful entrepreneur

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Speaker 1: in his own right with his Men's Basic brand pair

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Speaker 1: of thieves. They created National Sock Day and they've given

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Speaker 1: out over three million pairs of socks to homele shoulders,

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Speaker 1: among other items. So I think that's really incredible m

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Speaker 1: Cash that you made. You know, charity such a big

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Speaker 1: part of your business. Can I also say something endlessly

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Speaker 1: impresses me, just like because I just skin. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's that goes without saying. That must be based on

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Speaker 1: her honest beauty company stop didn't care well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know that everyone knows who Jessica Alba is. She's

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Speaker 1: painstakingly beautiful. It's it's actually ridiculous. Her skin, she's like

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Speaker 1: airbrushed by God. And you know she's been working in entertainment,

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Speaker 1: so embarrassing. I know I was a good compliments when

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. I feel like anyone who knows Jessica

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Speaker 1: or who doesn't know Jessica, I think one of the

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Speaker 1: first things you feel like I don't understand, like that skin,

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Speaker 1: it's so crazy, and you know I do think it's

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Speaker 1: important to mention that she's obviously had, you know, started

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Speaker 1: over twenty five major films and Da Dada, But I

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Speaker 1: also think that it's very important to know Jessica as

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Speaker 1: the entrepreneur. And I think it's very admirable to go

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Speaker 1: from being an actor and modeling in all these things

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Speaker 1: to creating a brand like Honest and the Honest Company,

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Speaker 1: which also has Honest Beauty, which I have all of

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Speaker 1: or my face. But I think it's just it's just incredible.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I think you've only just begun,

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Speaker 1: which is crazy because I'm tired just talking to you.

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Speaker 1: But Okay, one thing I wanted to sidebar before Roger

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Speaker 1: interrupted me was I just want to note that Cash

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Speaker 1: went to Yale, because that is something that I remember

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Speaker 1: every once in a while and I'm like, god, guys,

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Speaker 1: no one just goes to Yelle. I mean, you do.

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Speaker 1: I know people that go to Yale, But like, I

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Speaker 1: just think that behind that handsome face, we have to

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Speaker 1: remember he's really flipping smart and um overachieving or just

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Speaker 1: achieving because he went to Yale, and you just achieve

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Speaker 1: what happens when you go to Yale? Apparently, I don't

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Speaker 1: have that kind of you know, I do have that

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Speaker 1: that sort of almamodesty. I don't want to talk about you, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I do, I do? I do. So we'll get

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Speaker 1: to me, don't you. Okay, So you guys, what we

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Speaker 1: like to do on works for us. Um we really

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Speaker 1: just like to take it from the beginning, which I

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Speaker 1: know for you was a long time ago. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's important when we talk about relationships to understand

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Speaker 1: like how did it start, how'd you meet? How did it?

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Speaker 1: How did it happen? We were in Vancouver, she was

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Speaker 1: in a movie. I was working for the director in

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Speaker 1: this movie, and one of the tasks as an assistant

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Speaker 1: to and a director was she was taking I had

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Speaker 1: to take photos of her as she tried on different

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Speaker 1: contact lenses because she needed no blue eyes in this movie.

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Speaker 1: And so I went into her trailer and I was

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Speaker 1: And when you're on set, you know, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: as friends for a couple of weeks, for like ten days.

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Speaker 1: And then he tricked me into going on a date

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if this is sick. Like

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Speaker 1: was like, it's all right, you know, we're out. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't like we were going down dark Alex, like we

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Speaker 1: We had a three and a half hour dinner and

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Speaker 1: we didn't eat anything and we ate no food and

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Speaker 1: And what happened was is even though like we had

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Speaker 1: an hour, yeah, like across a bridge, Like it was

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Speaker 1: a whole situation. So after three and a half hours,

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Speaker 1: what happened, Well, if you can share, we didn't get Roger.

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Speaker 1: You tricked Rachel into going on your first date as well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was as much of a trick,

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Speaker 1: but Rachel and I were also supposed to meet a

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Speaker 1: we were literally weren't you working at a restaurant or so? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were so like it was like it was like

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Speaker 1: there was on a movie set in ours in a restaurant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were waiters, Yeah, we were in Well, what it's

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Speaker 1: green M and m's yeah, but beyond that. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: so note we were the old ones that showed up

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Speaker 1: The shit? What did you say? You're like, we're not

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Speaker 1: same experience as bartender Josh. We just spoke, you know,

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Speaker 1: He's like, you guys make an amazing couple. About three

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Speaker 1: so you guys, so what happened? Did you stay together?

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Speaker 1: After that? Like? Was it? So we went back. Our

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Speaker 1: And I sneezed talk about no game in her mouth

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Speaker 1: It was the worst, Jessica. I didn't realize that you

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Speaker 1: like I'm going on where where? Would like? I got

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Speaker 1: long time ago. I feel like you definitely had kids,

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Speaker 1: and I remember, I believe Cash and Roger walked to

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Speaker 1: me in the room and I said, oh, do you

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Speaker 1: trying to like separate a little bit. And Jessica said,

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Speaker 1: And I remember how much I like him, and that

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Speaker 1: stuck with me forever, because of course I love Roger.

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Speaker 1: Of course I love him. Were like a hundred years

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Speaker 1: me because I had never heard anybody say that before.

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Speaker 1: And I think in relationships, you know, Roger and I

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Speaker 1: it goes back to when I was growing up and

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Speaker 1: But I think it goes along with that concept, right,

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Speaker 1: were both three, Honor and Haven multiple times Honor not

638
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: as many times as Haven. Haven would smack on her

639
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: and then walk over to the corner and sit there

640
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: and put herself in time out because she like knew

641
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: where to go. She needed to get that smack. He

642
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: was like she would be like boom, and then she'd

643
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: go and walk her little self. She was like down

644
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: for the punishment and then down and she'd like put

645
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: her head and it was worth it for her. It

646
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: was worth it. Yeah, I love that, actually loved that. Yeah,

647
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: he has only gone there once, the only one, of course,

648
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: even though he's probably deserved it more than anyone. No,

649
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: but the girls probably spoil him too, right, Oh yeah,

650
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: we all let him get away with everything. Here. You

651
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: don't watch like roger My two very much. My older

652
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: sisters were six and eight years older, and I was

653
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: the boy, the third kid. Boy, by the way, you guys,

654
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: for what it's worth. A week ago, I asked his

655
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: sister what he was like when he was little. She goes,

656
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: he just got everything you wanted. He did anything you wanted.

657
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: He gave us candy to clean his room, and he

658
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: went to play with his friends. And we did anything

659
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: he asked. My mother did anything it asked to help

660
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: him till he was dead. Okay, all of it. So

661
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you another. In addition punishment, I think teaching

662
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: them about compassion, yeahs important thing. Trying to like have

663
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: the like raised them to have empathy and compassion. And

664
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: our kids have a lot of empathy. Actually, yeah, whatever reason,

665
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: that's something we actually don't It's almost too much like

666
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: up fly the way I'm like Sky. My kids are

667
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: such good you go sometimes they're like, Dad, you can't

668
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: put the blinker on when you change lanes. I'm like,

669
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: calm down, kids. Who invented these kids? Yeah? Ours will

670
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: ours love to follow rules and they're definitely good like that.

671
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: But I so the adjustment of that because you don't

672
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: want them to be corny is I like, talk to

673
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: them about swag and how they have to like operate

674
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: with people, or you can't be too thirsty, Like you

675
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: don't need to take all these selfies all the time

676
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: because you just look extra like multibillion dollar company. You

677
00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: have to you got. I mean, I'm gonna ask a question.

678
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: We were talking a lot about the kids getting in trouble,

679
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: but what is when was cash the biggest in trouble?

680
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Like what was your biggest fight? Yeah? Like what do you?

681
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys are some of us Becker

682
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: and Recover right. Yeah, we bicker a lot. I remember

683
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: one fight was when I went to a bachelor party.

684
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you were pregnant yep. Oh I would have

685
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: never done that. Yeah I was. I was eight months pregnant.

686
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: He went to I was like, really it might have

687
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: been late for my own child's birthday party. That wasn't

688
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: great yea four in the morning, so he was like,

689
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: I'll be back by ten. I don't hear from him, nothing,

690
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: doesn't answer his phone. Four in the morning. This fool

691
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: rolls in. I'm like, don't you dare even think about

692
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: coming up? Stood? And he lays on the couch and

693
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't you dare think you're going to be

694
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: able to sleep in this house. I already threw all

695
00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: his clothes out the window. I pulled him off the

696
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: couch while he was sleep. I was so hammered. I

697
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: couldn't even think straight up walks in the morning and

698
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: he had to go sleep in the car. It was terrible.

699
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: Let you and Roger Kindred Spirits cash, I love you,

700
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: let's pick Let's do this. I just want to see that.

701
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: He was like, she would talk about this later, was

702
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be fine. I was like, whatever that happened,

703
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Like why are we doing this? The second because you

704
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: know what I did, the most hungover he ever was,

705
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: and I was so mad at him. I actually made

706
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: him hang every piece of art in our house perfectly aligned,

707
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: like with a hammer and nails and things. I had

708
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: to do it because I was in so much literally

709
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: that was my punishment, and he showed up drunk disk

710
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: other second birthday. It was really special. Um from stood

711
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: off the plane, it was really all right, how about

712
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: let's turn around? How about the most fun you've ever had?

713
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember a moment where you were just like, who,

714
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: don't reenact that, don't reenact that. Well, there's no one

715
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: seeing this. Yeah, that's amazing. TikTok moves by the way, Yeah,

716
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: she too, cash on some good moves. I would say,

717
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: don't you think that when we go on alone adult vacations,

718
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: when we remember that we like each other and we

719
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: get to actually like be friends and not like I

720
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: feel like we're constantly wearing is like we're parents. We

721
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: have to like you know, it's like your almost roommates.

722
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: It's like there's like rule rules, all the stuff, you know,

723
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: all the responsibility. But when we get to sort of

724
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: like let go of it and just like be in

725
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: the moment and not have any responsibility towards anything other

726
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: than just being present. So Jamie and Kelly's anniversary and

727
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: Saint Bart's, yeah was one. And then my I would

728
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: say my birthday remember Morocco and hairs, Yeah, yeah, that

729
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: was that was fairly recent. Wasn't that Like, wasn't that

730
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: in the last Yeah, that was like in the last

731
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. That's awesome. Yeah, I try and

732
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: do that more often. And then Rachel's like, I wonder

733
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: what the kids are doing now? Were the Yeah, you

734
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: know what, just here's the thing. You guys are younger.

735
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You were younger parents. So for us,

736
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: I think we pushed it as late as you you

737
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: kind of can in a way, but I think, you know,

738
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: so for me, it was easier to kind of like

739
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: stay home and like, you know, I had done most

740
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, like we had had a long time together.

741
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: And I think for me, I always used you guys

742
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: as this like young power couple with children that were

743
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: able to find somehow that balance of being able to

744
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: leave your kids and do your work thing and travel

745
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: and um, but still be like incredible, incredible hands on parents,

746
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: because that's something that I think when you're younger parents

747
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: building your career, you have to make that choice, like

748
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: you have to say, if I'm going to build a

749
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: career and be a young parent, guess what, Like there's

750
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to be sacrifices that I make and I

751
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: guess what's the psychology there, because I imagine it's something like,

752
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: this is kind of for you, guys, we're doing this

753
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: for you. But I guess you know what what because

754
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: you have had to leave for long stretches of time,

755
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: and you know, I really I admire it. It's it's

756
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: incredible and you're still just so hands on and you're

757
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: such incredible parents. So how do you do that? I mean,

758
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: I would say, actually, since I had the kids, we

759
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't go away for long periods of time, to

760
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: be honest, right, the longest I've ever gone was like

761
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: ten days once. Yeah, but it does feel long when

762
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: you're there. But I would say that the hardest part

763
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: for me is when we're home and we're grinding every

764
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: day going to our offices. Like Cash started his company

765
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: the same year I started mine, and and you are

766
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: founding a company and actively involved in building your business.

767
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: You wear so many hats, and you're part of hr

768
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: decisions and product development and marketing, and just like you're

769
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: the foundational infrastructure of supply chain and operations and your

770
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: financials and all of it. You're in the weeds of everything.

771
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: And so I would say that like carving out family

772
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: time when you're grinding every day and building something for

773
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: me has been a struggle and I have a lot

774
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: of emotional I struggle with it all the time. And

775
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: I would say that during quarantine, I felt like with Hayes,

776
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: this is the first baby where I don't feel like

777
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: I missed his bait, I missed that stage of their life.

778
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: Because with Honor and Haven, I definitely feel like I

779
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: missed the small moments, the bathtime, the even though I

780
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: came home for the night feeding. But it's different. It's

781
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: different when it's like a fifteen twenty minute like you know,

782
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: then when you're there with every meal, you're watching them grow,

783
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: You're watching their vocabulary development, You're watching them discovered things.

784
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: You know, you're there for all the good, the bad,

785
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: the everything between everything. And so the quarantine has been amazing. Also,

786
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: who like Honor went from being like five to three

787
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: to five to seven. I've ever seen like she's like

788
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: a real person, went from like a kid to like

789
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: a woman. Even though she's not a woman, she's still

790
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: a kid, but it just you're like, it's bizarre. She looks,

791
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: she looks she's a senior in high school for sure,

792
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: it's the crazy you really tick talking in the beginning

793
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: of Quarantine and I literally grab watching. So I have

794
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: a question for you, Jess. So you were you know,

795
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: again just from the from outside looking in something I've

796
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: always thought about. You know, it seems for most people

797
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: like being an actress. You know, it's a good gig, right,

798
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: people like love you, You get paid to like, you know,

799
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: go one, exotic locations, whatever, seems like a good gig.

800
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: What made you decide to be like, you know what,

801
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: I also want to try and create a multiple I

802
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: mean at that point maybe it wasn't thought of as

803
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar company, but what made you sort

804
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: of because obviously that was going to take away from

805
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: your I guess time or career. I think subconsciously you

806
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: must have made some decision and was it? You know,

807
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: I've always thought about this is like acting almost like

808
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: modeling or people thinking that what's my next move? Or

809
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: like what am I going to be when I go off?

810
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: Like I just wanted to understand because you know, honestly,

811
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: you know is similar. You know, you're like, wow, she's

812
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: like a you know, Oscar winning actress. You know what

813
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: makes her? Because I know what it takes to start

814
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: a business cash. So we all do entrepreneurs and it's

815
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: real work, and you know, it's also uncomfortable. There's also

816
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot more uncomfortableness, I would imagine than maybe like

817
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: being the you know, the a less talent going into

818
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: a set. You know you have to sit there and

819
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: pitch and ask for money, and you know, it's a

820
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: lot more humbling. I guess, So how is that experience different?

821
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: I actually feel like it's much more humbling and humiliating

822
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: being an actress interesting. You're constantly scrutinized, You're constantly told

823
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: you're not enough, You're it's like for the the every

824
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: win that you see, you don't realize the thousands of rejections.

825
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I was wildly insecure as an actress, and

826
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: I would say a lot of times it's so surface,

827
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: so shit, you can't change. So it's like you just

828
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: don't look like the part, what the director had in

829
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: mind of the role. You just don't look like it,

830
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: and so you can't change the way you look. And

831
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: so so it becomes so superficial and like no matter

832
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: how much you bring to the table, how professional you are,

833
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: because it isn't about exotic locations at the end of

834
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: the day's right, of course, being able to put in

835
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: an eighteen hour day and being on and knowing your

836
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: lines and hitting that mark and being on and being

837
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: consistent and never being tired, and always being able to

838
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: turn it on no matter what, and also being gumby.

839
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: I mean at the end of the day. It's also

840
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: not even you put your heart and soul into whatever

841
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: you're doing, but at the end of the day, they

842
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: don't want it. They want to manipulate you into this

843
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: idea of who they need you to be, and so

844
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: then your performance is completely thrown out because it's just

845
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: about the editor and the producers and how they want

846
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: it to show up. And so I would say it's

847
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 1: much more empowering when I can have an idea. Sure

848
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: it was like good luck with that one, but I

849
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: were you know, I got rejected for three years. I

850
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: was used to rejection. Man, I have a thick skin,

851
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: I mean, have a very thick skin. Yeah, No one

852
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: thought in Hollywood like I have. No there's no nepotism.

853
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't Gwyneth Palto coming into this business, you know,

854
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't blonde. I didn't look like other girls.

855
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: My dad or mom wasn't in the business, or uncles

856
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: or aunts or nothing. And I was just coming in

857
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm just gonna figure this

858
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: out and I'm gonna make it hard for them to

859
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: say no to me. And so that's just like how

860
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: I got work, and I just like hustled, And I

861
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: think that's about hustle. That's what's so funny. It's so

862
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: funny because people ask me all the time. You know, listen,

863
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: I've obviously known rate for thirty years. There are probably

864
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: actresses that are worse than you, better than you, who

865
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: the hell comes. But the reality is is what I

866
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: always say, and their their styles, people out of a

867
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: better eye or worse eye, whatever. And it's all subjective anyway,

868
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: right at the end of the day. But it's all subjective.

869
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: But what I do know, because I was with her,

870
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: she outworked them all. She outworked them all. I witnessed

871
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: it twenty years straight, missing birthdays, missing dinners, missing everything,

872
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: because the only thing that mattered was what was how

873
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: our clients looked. Frankly, the only thing and that's again

874
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: making them feel good. I think that's the recurring theme

875
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: it's like this does not just happen overnight. What's cool

876
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: is like it's been so fulfilling. I would say that

877
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: where Hollywood gave me the ability to financially be secure,

878
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: which is really my biggest motivation to have that financial

879
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: security in order for me to then have the capacity

880
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: to dream about what I really wanted to do with

881
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: my life. You know, when you're when you're literally just

882
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: like trying to survive, it's hard to dream. Yeah. Cool

883
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: transition that I saw was when we first got together,

884
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: her heart and soul, she poured that into acting, she

885
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: poured that into Hollywood, and it was such an unforgiving

886
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: business that it was almost it was oftentimes one sided

887
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: where she didn't get it wasn't reciprocated, and her starting Honest,

888
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: she was able to kind of separate, and so she

889
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: poured her heart and soul into Honest, and she poured

890
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: her love into Honest, and that was giving her that

891
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: love back, and she was very much able to treat

892
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: Hollywood like a transactional business. And it's interesting that with

893
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: Honest becoming successful and growing to the scale that it has,

894
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: it's almost fliped now while Honest still has heart, it

895
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: very much is a business. And now she's gone back

896
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: to acting and she's able. She rediscovered that joy and

897
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: rediscovered that love for acting in you. It's like you

898
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: have to fulfill this too, but now it's elective. Now

899
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: it's elective, and that's the difference. There's a difference between

900
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: working to live and living to work. And I think

901
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when you are, as

902
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: you said, doing it to survive, you almost forget why

903
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: you're doing it, you know, And the truth is is that.

904
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, another story, another Jessica thinks, Jr.

905
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: Your words really do affect me. I remember we were

906
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: at a birthday dinner for Jamie long ago at that

907
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: little restaurant on Lasianna Goat Was. I don't even think

908
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: it was a real restaurant. Someone was cooking dinner for

909
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: him and you were all there. It was a small

910
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: group of us, and Jessica walked Jessica and I walked

911
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: outside in the back like we did sometimes just to

912
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: catch up and jess I remember her leaving on the

913
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: wall and just going, yeah, so I'm going to start

914
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: this all clean, chemical free m line for babies, and

915
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, for families. You did say for families, and

916
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: I said, I said really. I said really. I was like,

917
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: what do you mean. She's like, yeah, there's just nothing clean.

918
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: Everything has all these chemicals and I want to change it.

919
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: And like she gave me this like five minute like

920
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: she feel about it, and I just remember staring at

921
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: her like, you know, I really feel like you're totally

922
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: gonna do this, Like it wasn't like because listen, you guys,

923
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: we all have friends that their ideas people, right, they dream,

924
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: but they don't follow through. Yeah, And the thing about

925
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: Jessica that I would say is whatever she says, you

926
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: better be damn sure she's doing it, you know. And Cash,

927
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: the thing is with you is I think you know,

928
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone realizes how awesome Cash is. And

929
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: that's why I always say I'm like the number one.

930
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm the number one cash band. I mean, Jessica's fine

931
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: and all, but Jessica's right, you Cash, you have swagger.

932
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: He did, like, and I think the thing that really

933
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: inspired me to even think that I could possibly ever

934
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: start a businesses. By that time, Cash was on his

935
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: third business. So Cash started and sold shoe businesses. Yeah,

936
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: and then this was his third and he had such

937
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: a like fearlessness about like he didn't know about putting

938
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: together a digital media company. He just did it. You know.

939
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: His first company was basically TikTok. It was like a

940
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: competition social media platform called Ibatu and yeah, and it

941
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: was just like he just was so fearless about like

942
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: putting it together and like making it happen. And he

943
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: and then and then like went through the motions, learned

944
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: as he went, and then like sold it and then

945
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: was like on to the next one. And so by

946
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: then I was like, well, if this fool. He was

947
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: always so chill, nothing ever bothered him. He's like so relaxed.

948
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm always like so tightly wound, so stressed. He's so smooth.

949
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: So it's such a quality life. And I'm like, if

950
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: he can do this, I know that I can probably

951
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: do it. And I had this idea and he just

952
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: kept looking at me blank. He's like, well, you're what

953
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: you're saying, It's just it's just sounds so complicated. And

954
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: I realized, like he knew how to make something complicated,

955
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: distill it to something simple and in order for people

956
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: to like want to get on board with his ideas.

957
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: And that's what I had to learn over my three

958
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: years of getting rejected was how to take this really

959
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: complicated idea and turn it into something very simple and tangible.

960
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: That's so interesting and what you know, what you what

961
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: you just said is something that I've been saying a

962
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: lot lately, and it's something that I've been trying to

963
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: do in my own sort of career life whatever. Is

964
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: what I've realized lately is the only reason why you

965
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: don't do something is because you physically don't do it.

966
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: Like if you want, like to start on, it's like

967
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: you literally you say to make it happen. Don't make

968
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: it happen. You incorporate the company, you say, who wants

969
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: to be involved, right, and you just do it. And

970
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: it's so interesting how I think there's so many people

971
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: that don't go after their dreams or whatever it is

972
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: because they just don't put one front they put they

973
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: don't put one foot in front of the other. They

974
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: think about the whole entirety of it. They don't think

975
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: about putting one foot the other. And that these you know,

976
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: it's been ten years. The other thing I wanted to

977
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: mention Jessica. Now it's like such a you know, normal concept,

978
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: like oh, this actress has a company and this person

979
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: is on this thing. You know, let's not forget this

980
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: business ten years old, but you were pitching it for

981
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: three years behind that thirteen years ago. It was not

982
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: a very I would say that this sort of we'll

983
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: call it celebrity meat sprand female female. Well it was,

984
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: of course, that's even that's even more so. Yeah, oh

985
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: I got laughed. I got laughed out of many rooms,

986
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: I know. But I'd like to give you accolades because,

987
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, in many ways I also think about that,

988
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of Rachel, even with styling and

989
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: showing people that world, I think Rachel is one of

990
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: the first, you know, people out there that could show

991
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: that being the best at your profession, even if it's

992
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: not an actor an NBA player. You know, they used

993
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: people just used to look up to actors and musicians

994
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: and athletes. That was it. Actor, musician, athlete. And I

995
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: think Rachel was a whole part of the wave. You

996
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: know that was with all the chefs and everyone else.

997
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, I really, I ain't going to be

998
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: an athlete. I don't relate to that, Frank, it's brand building.

999
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: I relate to, like the influence that person and that

1000
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: was really the beginning of all of this. So I

1001
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: think that in this sort of business meets, you know,

1002
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: putting the brand name or the recognition or the media

1003
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: spotlight along with the brand, and especially that you're doing

1004
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: something for good, you know, the products. Um, I think

1005
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: it's amazing. So I wanted to give you that accolade

1006
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: and then that's cool. So you guys, actually, you know

1007
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: what I really want to ask you this. What is

1008
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: it that makes you guys work? What is your magic?

1009
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: What's your secret sauce? And is there one? That's my

1010
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: question both of you. And please don't tell me you're

1011
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: filing for separation today. There's a long pause. They were

1012
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Now we're having a date night. Yeah,

1013
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: we're having a little staycation. Yeah, a little getaway. What

1014
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: makes us? I'm asking, I'm looking at you. I think

1015
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: our friendship. Truthfully, it's so corny, but it's true. Like

1016
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: I think that, like just the friendship, the fact that

1017
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: we can talk about anything, we can sit down, we

1018
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: can make each other laugh, we can piss each other off,

1019
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: you know that just that the best friend friendship that trust.

1020
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: I think that I think, yeah, like right or die

1021
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: like we're in it, Like we're both committed to being

1022
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: in it, right, yeah, the tacon Yeah. The second you

1023
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: can choose to be in it is when it when

1024
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: you're like, mmm, I don't know, I can probably choose

1025
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: to not do this anymore. The second that happens, that's

1026
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: when it gets weird. People are ultimately selfish, and I

1027
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: think that some people put on the table that if

1028
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: this isn't working for me, like I'm gonna like, I'll

1029
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: only go this steep so I know that we're never

1030
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna like get into the part of our relationship where

1031
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: anything's at risk that makes any sense. And I think

1032
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: that people put that on the table, like, oh well,

1033
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: I could leave. And once you put that on the table,

1034
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: you're going to It's like once you're looking for a

1035
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: new job, do it, you're never staying. Ever when you

1036
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: look for the new job, you're over there ever ever ever,

1037
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: So you got to really know that you're not looking

1038
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: for that job. And if that's off the table, then

1039
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: I think your marriage or your partnership could work the

1040
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: other like growth. I think that and it's hard to

1041
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: plan for it, but we really do what we're helping

1042
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: each other grow and we're growing with each other, and

1043
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: I think that like the moment one becomes stagnant and

1044
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: the other one's really pushing for growth, it's challenging. Or

1045
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: if you're growing apart, it's really challenging. It's like finding

1046
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: a way to support each other on our own paths,

1047
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: in your own growth. And so you know, her helping

1048
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: me on my path. And it doesn't mean our paths

1049
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: have to converge and we have to be doing the

1050
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: exact same thing. Just supporting each other in your own growth.

1051
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: It's hard and complicated. Yeah. You guys mentioned though that

1052
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: you started your business at the same year Pair of Thieves.

1053
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: We got into target first. Yeah, this is where I

1054
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: was going with this. Was there any competition, It seems

1055
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: like there might have been. No, just it's very different.

1056
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: Because I started pair of these, I didn't want to

1057
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: raise a dime for it. I wanted to sell fund

1058
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: to business that I didn't need to answer to investors,

1059
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: and it was it's a business that I didn't need

1060
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: to raise money. Some some ideas and some businesses you

1061
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: need to build a moat around it. You need to

1062
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: you need to figure out how to create something defensible

1063
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: and one way to do that is to raise a

1064
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: shit ton of money like honest it, because that scares

1065
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: off other entrepreneurs from wanting to go try to copy

1066
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: honest out of the time. Um, whereas with mine, I

1067
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: wanted to either it was going to be a profitable

1068
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: business or we were just going to lose a very

1069
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: little amount of money. And now we've got close to

1070
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: sixty employees. Yeah, and now you guys are going to

1071
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: hire off of a pair of thieves and on it. Yes,

1072
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: the acronyms pot and THHC. Yeah, pot, it's admitting if

1073
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: you know me. It's also fitting with how we how

1074
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: we bonded when we first got But I would say

1075
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: we definitely don't have I haven't felt like the competition

1076
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: exactly what Cash is saying, just our models are so different,

1077
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: Our business models are so different, and so you know,

1078
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: each milestone is very different depending on what type of

1079
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: business you're building and what the infrastructure is. And then

1080
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: are also playing for the same team. Yeah, exactly. I

1081
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: want him to win and he wants me to win,

1082
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: and we'll together the kids ultimately, right, your legacy. It's

1083
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: hard kids, so of course, and that's the thing. And

1084
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: I think that I think that's the biggest thing, and

1085
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: I would say in Hollywood especially is that I believe

1086
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: there is a lot of jealousy and competition, especially when

1087
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: in the same business. And not that you guys are

1088
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: in the same business, but you both are are entrepreneurs,

1089
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: and I think you know, when people ask us, like,

1090
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: what's our secret sauce, one of them is always we

1091
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: root for each other. There is no jell see and

1092
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: people say, look, one is a little bit more front

1093
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: and center, wants a little bit more behind the scenes.

1094
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: The fact that there's no jealousy, because jealousy, to me

1095
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: will always be the most evil emotion of all actually

1096
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to women, because Jess and I have

1097
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 1: talked about this, there's a lot of Yeah, we see

1098
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: a lot of jealousy, but it also I mean even

1099
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: with Cash and I when when we did break up,

1100
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't handle the pressure of the jealousy that he

1101
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: had about me working and I didn't like the way

1102
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: it was making me feel. I really like, by the way,

1103
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 1: it's not it's a hard thing to ask, but it's

1104
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: also like a hard thing to ask of someone that

1105
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: you're in a relationship with. It like, be cool with me,

1106
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: like going on set with these like super charismatic, charming

1107
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: dudes that you're going to have to pretend like you're

1108
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: falling in love with you Like that would make anybody

1109
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: crazy I'm making out with Yeah, yeah, I mean I understand.

1110
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: On my end, I'm like, it's weird, it's ross, it's

1111
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: not difficult that. But on his end, his life, of course,

1112
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, he'll never see that. He's like, you're just

1113
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: sitting there hooking up all day, I promise you, guys.

1114
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: Which is you know, understandable, understandable that he would think

1115
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: that way, but it is it is such a like

1116
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: killer emotion. It's like I had this this sumber thing.

1117
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean again Rachel at the time her, you know,

1118
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: I was an investment banker. She was flying down to

1119
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: Miami every weekend. That's when I met Ashton. When yeah,

1120
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: like and I had and I had to I had

1121
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: to reconcile that very quickly in my own mind, because

1122
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: I agree, there's nothing more annoying than a guy that's

1123
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: jealous over his water. It's like the other way around,

1124
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: a most petty just like honestly, like you know what

1125
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: Roger did, cash, you know what he said. Because people

1126
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: used to be like, how does Roger deale with it?

1127
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: And he literally had this and he still said, still

1128
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: say it. If they can and get her, they can

1129
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 1: have her. Yes, And it worked. You guys like because

1130
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: I can't even care they could have her? So like,

1131
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: why am I? Why am I so? Like? Why am

1132
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: I gone crazy in my head? It's silly? Yeah, go

1133
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: knock yourself. Okay, you guys, so hold on. I want

1134
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: to ask one more question because we would get to

1135
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: like a nice, lovely moment. I can talk to them

1136
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: for six out. But they were like, they don't have

1137
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: They were just talking about how nice their businesses are

1138
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: and how things are looking forward and your favorite conversations.

1139
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: Mind you, I have been jealous too. I went on

1140
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: talk shows and talk about how how I'd cut a

1141
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: bitch and all of that. Yeah, but we love that

1142
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: about you, jess You're very You're very I think for

1143
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 1: anyone listening, guys. I think one of the things about

1144
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: Jessica that is, in my opinion, one of the reasons

1145
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: that Roger and I have always loved her is because

1146
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: she really just says it true. She she just says it.

1147
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: She is so without no pun intended. She is so honest,

1148
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: and I actually really love that about her because I

1149
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: don't have the same I just I love what a

1150
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: strait you are I do. I love that, how genuine

1151
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: and how so where do you guys see yourself in

1152
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: twenty years? Like what's this all gonna end up? Like

1153
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: you ever think about that? You mean as a couple. Yeah,

1154
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: kids are gonna be out. I mean I think about

1155
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: like what, like what are we gonna happens? Yeah, he's

1156
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: been talking about it a lot golf because I I'm

1157
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: very sad just thinking about the kids, you know, like

1158
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: starting their life and stuff. We're going to make our

1159
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: family vacations so fun that they're gonna be like same,

1160
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna be Yes, they're gonna want to come. Build

1161
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: and they will come, Jess. That's what my parents always said,

1162
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: Build and they will come, and we'll still be doing

1163
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: I think. I think I'll work until I'm dead because

1164
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: I enjoy doing stuff. Like I'm I'm not like can't

1165
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: wait to retire and like sit on a beach and

1166
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: do zero because nothing. No, that's not what I want

1167
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: to do. But I would like to play more golf.

1168
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah that's all this guy wants to do. So I

1169
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: think there will be a new Like real estate is

1170
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: something that's always really interested in this, I think she

1171
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, we've I love, we've redesigned and developed and

1172
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: done a lot of construction, maybe like a hotel or something,

1173
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: or resort I think probably owing, I tot and you

1174
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: have like the cool property resorting like everyone's there, friends,

1175
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: friends down now and then like I don't know what

1176
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: I want, but you know what I hate thinking about.

1177
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: I hate thinking about like the maintenance. It's the worst.

1178
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is the water bill? What is electrical bill?

1179
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 1: What is what's the staff? Like? How do you keep

1180
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: them happy? Liabilities? Yeah, the liability, that's all I just

1181
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: think about it. Hopefully swimming pool. I just feel like

1182
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: it's someone else's problem. I hope, I hope to deal with,

1183
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: not never problem, but I would. Yeah, I think real estate.

1184
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: I also think that, you know, because we both have

1185
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: been entrepreneurs, we've been through it and even just like

1186
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: there's so few people of color and women that are

1187
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: that are even given opportunities to start businesses and get funding.

1188
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 1: You know, there's some basic tricks and things that if

1189
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: only anyone told me, Hey know, these four or five

1190
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: acronyms before you go in and ask for money, right,

1191
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: know what these things are? You know what they care about? Yeah,

1192
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: like LTV and gotta DA all those things. And then

1193
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: also like this is how the financials work. When it

1194
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: comes to running a business. You have to think about

1195
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: your SGNA. You have to think about this margin versus

1196
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: that margin your growth. If you can't get creative and

1197
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: and have ideas, you have to know how to acce

1198
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: with the fashion business creative and eighty percent business. Ask

1199
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: me now, because I have you know how competitive it

1200
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: is and young people coming up and they ask me

1201
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: all the time, what is your number one piece of advice?

1202
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, just because you like clothes doesn't mean

1203
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: you can have a business in fashion. You have to

1204
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: understand business. Business. Can't go into this life anymore without

1205
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: understanding business and what it means to build a business.

1206
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you have to go to business school necessarily,

1207
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: but it does mean you have to have the fundamentals.

1208
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: You have to have that foundation in order to do this.

1209
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: And it doesn't need to be that complicated. Right, do

1210
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: you make more money than you spend? And that is

1211
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: that simple? Right? And and here are all of the

1212
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: acronyms that they apply to that your taxes, pay your taxes,

1213
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: you can make more money than you spend and if

1214
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: you can do that well like yeah, and ta taxes

1215
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: out from the top. And then also like you're only

1216
01:06:55,360 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: as good as your team. All, yeah, that is I

1217
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: learned that from Mark Jacobs because he's he's always been

1218
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: the one who he never takes a compliment without saying

1219
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: my team. He will never even say thank you without thinking.

1220
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: Let's move on to some the question and answer part

1221
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: of our before we let you go. Yeah, this is

1222
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: our sort of like, let's see you've getting together. What

1223
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: thirteen years married? You talked about, Let's see how seventeen

1224
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: years together? Which is all let's see how well you

1225
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: really know each other. This is one of our favorite

1226
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: questions we ask is that guy that I know some

1227
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: of the answers to do I feel like I feel

1228
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: like I'm going to ask this one because I like this.

1229
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: It's really more of a Rachel question. But Jessica, what

1230
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 1: would one piece of clothing that you would throw away

1231
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: of cash as if you could, like, what do you

1232
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: hate that he has that he owns and he continues

1233
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: to wear so cute? Is there, oh, saying he also

1234
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: throws a lot of stuff away all the time. No,

1235
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: he don He filters out his closet really pretty regular.

1236
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: I could see that, pretty regular, says part of this don't. Yeah,

1237
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't hang on to stuff. I hate clutter. Yeah,

1238
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: he hates Wow, I could see this. All right, So

1239
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: this question, he literally doesn't have any because he literally

1240
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: goes through everything. He constantly filter. There's probably some sweats

1241
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: or something. Hey, Cash, whenever you're filtering, I'm over here.

1242
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 1: All right, wait, wait, okay, okay, okay, this you're so skinny.

1243
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: He really is. He's like one hundred and sixty pounds.

1244
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Okay, So all right, jess who is Cash's

1245
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: free pass? Oh? I think you would. I think you

1246
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: already use them up from what I No, no, no, no, no,

1247
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: you didn't use them up. No, who's your free pass?

1248
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: Who is my free pass? He'll never tell me his

1249
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: real free pass? Is that for me to decide? Yeah, like,

1250
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: who would you? I want Jessica to tell me who's

1251
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: your free pass? And you to tell me who's Jessica's

1252
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: free pass. I don't think he'll ever tell the truth.

1253
01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: He has anywhere everyone anyone could be He'll say Queen

1254
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: ron Ya. But remember you've said that before several times.

1255
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: But I know it's not true. I mean basically, any

1256
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: random huchie who like opens because I know you're just

1257
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: full of shit. I know it's any basic thought is

1258
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 1: who he wants basic basic thought with a heartbeat, as

1259
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: long as she has like a good body and a

1260
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: cute face and her breath doesn't stink and she's into him.

1261
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: But I have to say Cash in all, honestly, like

1262
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: your wife might be one of the most beautiful women

1263
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: in the world. So it's hard to have like a

1264
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go here person, right, I mean yes, because

1265
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: it is. I mean I was gonna I was gonna

1266
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: say something that might be inappropriate, right because everyone's at

1267
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: oh Cash, everyone, it is a step down. Here's the thing.

1268
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: After you've been with anybody for after two years, after

1269
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: two years, you don't care anymore. And it's just the truth,

1270
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: and so everyone is going to be better than that.

1271
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: Even I don't agree that. I have seen the way

1272
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: Cash looks at you, and I have seen it on

1273
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: a night out. I've seen it in Saint Bart's, I've

1274
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: seen it when trust me, I've seen it and I

1275
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: it's there that fires, all right. So the next question, No, no,

1276
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: you didn't get Joseph because her a path. So sorry, Cash,

1277
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: he's her free path. Does she have one? He's getting

1278
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: angry thinking about it. No, I don't know this one.

1279
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: We were on a show the other day and they

1280
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: were like, who do was your wife's like childhood crush?

1281
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: And I couldn't think of anything. Michael Kane was the

1282
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: name I was trying so she could sleep with Michael Kane.

1283
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: She loved Michael Kane and that's all I could think of.

1284
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: So that's her free path. So you guys, just so

1285
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like a tween right, like I have

1286
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: like Robert Pattinson. I'm obsessed with the Bridgetin guy. I'm

1287
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: like Brad Pitt. But I mean, you know, I'm literally

1288
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 1: like a tweenager. I'm like, I literally had like posters

1289
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: in my room. I won Biggest Flirt in Camp when

1290
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: I was six years old, you know, so I was

1291
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: boy crazy from a very very young age. So um, Disney. No,

1292
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't know which Disney character is Who's Cash most

1293
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: likely to be? I actually kind of would know that Jessica,

1294
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: who who would catch me a Disney characters. Actually, I

1295
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 1: think it's more the Halloween costume was a dead ringer

1296
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: when I think of Jessica. The question of our listeners

1297
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: was if you were Disney character or cartoon, who would

1298
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: you most, who would you look like, or who would

1299
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: you be? I mean he would and me literally, but

1300
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: we we once went out on a Halloween with you guys,

1301
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: and I swear to god, you guys were like Diego, right,

1302
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: oh God. I showed up inappropriate like Cavalli Calftan, with

1303
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: like some makeshift costume I was trying to be and

1304
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: they walk in literally like and Diego. And I swear

1305
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life Dora is Jessica. I

1306
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,440
Speaker 1: swear because you looked with the bomb and the things.

1307
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: Cash looked like No Country for old men. I did

1308
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: not look like Diego. I remember somebody leaning over to

1309
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: me and being like, I get that she's Dora, but like,

1310
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: who are you? He goes, and then that same person

1311
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: said to me, he must really love you to look

1312
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: like this, and he's out. But here's the problem. Cash

1313
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: and I weren't really like Halloween people, and when you are,

1314
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 1: like I know, but this is before we had. We

1315
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: just didn't really care and we and there was no

1316
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: tricker treating. I guess he just never really knew that

1317
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: it's like a whole thing Halloween before Kelly Sawyer. So

1318
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: we were wearing our costumes we worked on very hard

1319
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: together for the kids, and I was like, oh, yeah,

1320
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: we just wear this when we go out with the

1321
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: adults because we got the babysitter. We didn't know that

1322
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: everyone changes into their sexy costume or the Heidi Kloon

1323
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: party at the club, and I was like, oh, like yeah,

1324
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: like everyone, Like you know, I do love Halloween for

1325
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 1: that reason, but I appreciate the women that I don't

1326
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: go there. Okay, but wait, Jesse, I still want to

1327
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: know who is Cash as a Disney character? Oh? He is.

1328
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: From the first of all, it's I can't believe that

1329
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: in this movie where the one black princess, she's a frog.

1330
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: The princess and the frog, the frog and the guy

1331
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: in at the prince and it definitely looks a lot

1332
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: like Cash. I would definitely put him as a Disney

1333
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: prince all day long. You're a Disney prince, Cash, you are.

1334
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: But I think they need to do over. They definitely

1335
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: need more black princesses and they really need a Mexican princess. Yeah.

1336
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, I feel like I've said, I

1337
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: feel like Men is like the closest jazz man. But um,

1338
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: but Jesse, I'm thinking you're Mulan. You got o ye

1339
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 1: fat as a warrior. You would do that, you disguised

1340
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: as a boy and go into battle. Yeah, yes, that

1341
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: I like this question. That's a good one. I like

1342
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: this next question. Cash. If Jessica was arrested, what would

1343
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: it be for? I know this speeding, like driving too fast?

1344
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: Reckless driving? Reckless driving. It's only reckless if you're like

1345
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 1: reckless driving sober. No, no, you can be dead sober

1346
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: and be going too fast and not paying attention. Pay attention. Yeah,

1347
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: that's what it would be for. Okay, Okay, so let's

1348
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: just to be efficient with my automobile. I understand. Okay,

1349
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: what's what? What's cash getting? What she's gonna say, I'll

1350
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: cut it if it's inappropriate. He's like, don't don't say.

1351
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just say, scooter ring, No, scoot ring,

1352
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: give me something. Such a badass, dude? Is reckless driving?

1353
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: Cash just like really really helping your walking? Yeah, j wing.

1354
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 1: He would get a big wheel. It's sick. He rips

1355
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 1: out his big wheel and he's not allowed throwing his

1356
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: gum out the window. You make me drunk in public

1357
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,480
Speaker 1: smoking weed in public, because I don't think that that's appropriate.

1358
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: It used to not be great. Yeah, we have more questions.

1359
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: We have one more question. Okay, um, would you want

1360
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: to ask the question? Or want where do you want

1361
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: me to go? All right, let's see which one we

1362
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: would like to ask. I know what is your go

1363
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: to karaoke song? Right? That that is one. And by

1364
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: the way, Jessica probably knows this about me. I would

1365
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: rather light myself on fire than two karaoke. I literally

1366
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: it is. I swear to god it is. With Jesse

1367
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: and I were at a birthday. I think it was

1368
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: Nicole's birthday, ye, like a year or so ago, and

1369
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: we were just watching some of the greatest talent just

1370
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: get up there and karaoke and some of the not

1371
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: greatest talent get up. By the way, it was I

1372
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: believe it was Joel's birth Joel Yo, it was Joel's

1373
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: You're right, it was, yeah, that's right, ye, yes, And

1374
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: I remember I remember Jessica and I sitting at the

1375
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: booth and we were the only ones, like not even

1376
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: trying to get up there. I just it is my

1377
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: greatest fear, and I it really is. It's up there

1378
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: in my top greatest fears in life. So I don't

1379
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: even have a song. I wish I could let loose

1380
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: like that. You know, we often taught we share that

1381
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't care less what people think about me really

1382
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: gives zero Fox and I care I And I'm with you, guys,

1383
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: Cash one, it's too bad. I sometimes wish i'd know

1384
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 1: in a bit. Yeah, you've never said I'm not good

1385
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: at that either. No, I'm just I'm too self aware. Yeah, wait,

1386
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 1: all right, last one, you guys, last one. Um, jess

1387
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: what's Cash's last meal? Like before I die? Yeah? Like,

1388
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: what would be your last meal? I know Jessica's Yeah,

1389
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: I last meal before you die? What is your last

1390
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: meal before you die? Almost cry? She says die every time.

1391
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 1: She She could have just said, what is your what's

1392
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: your favorite food? Honey? He's weird because he's like he's

1393
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: extra picky, like he's like a weird everything. I'm not

1394
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: gonna hold you to it. He likes all food, so

1395
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: I would say it would be like a steak, you know,

1396
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: I was steak for Cash, Like yeah, like a steak

1397
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: and like a vodka. Truthfully, it would be whatever I

1398
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: didn't have to pick every night. It's like, what do

1399
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 1: you want for dinner? What do you want for dinner?

1400
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: It's my least favorite than my last meal will be

1401
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: whatever you put before my face and Jessica cousins, Cash

1402
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: Tacas yes something and that I have to be only

1403
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: literally of the time, Yeah I do literally. Yeah. Well,

1404
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 1: you guys, we love you so much. Keep doing world

1405
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: domination and keep setting good example high and setting great

1406
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: examples and both of your businesses being so grounded in

1407
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: giving back um is really incredible. So we love you

1408
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: guys so much. Awesome bi Okay, So that was so

1409
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: much fun. And I can't believe that for as long

1410
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: as we've been friends with Cash and jess that I

1411
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: never knew the like real true story of how they met,

1412
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: because that was fantastic. I mean, why I was listening

1413
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: to that story. What kept going through my mind is

1414
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 1: you know that like those little US magazine things where

1415
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: are like celebrities, they're just like us. I'm like, holy shit,

1416
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: Cash ate a dog breath mint and threw up, not

1417
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: threw up, he sneezed in Jessica's mouth, Like, what the

1418
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: fact that they are still together? Honestly, I think I'm

1419
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm on team Jessica. Now Cash is just for him

1420
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: to even I think you should still be mad at him.

1421
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 1: I was literally riveted through that. I was literally sitting

1422
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: there with my jaw to the ground as as Cash

1423
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 1: was telling that that was pure entertainment. And I really,

1424
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 1: you know, I think just what works for them, it's

1425
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: clearly that again, they don't take it themselves too seriously.

1426
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: They're very serious. They're super you know, hard working business people.

1427
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: But what's great about them is the way that they

1428
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: act together in the relationships a little like us is

1429
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: sort of like you can't sweat the small stuff. And

1430
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: I think that the first date was maybe just an

1431
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: indication of all of that. Like listen, it was it's

1432
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: more important the chemistry and magnetism that they felt than

1433
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: than the hiccups along the way. So I think that

1434
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: was a great lesson. I agree. I agree. Okay, babe,

1435
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: So we have to end with our highs and lows

1436
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: of the week. So what was your highlight of this week? Well,

1437
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:39,799
Speaker 1: my highlight typically revolves around food or wine or sax. Rachel,

1438
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: sorry you said it first, I didn't say anything, you did.

1439
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: I want everyone to hear that, she said a verse. Okay,

1440
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: So I think my highlight was when you made me

1441
01:20:51,640 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: a delicious egg white omelet with tortillas lightly biked and

1442
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: a side of veggie sausage. You forgot the cheese inside.

1443
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm a fresh basil from our greenhouse. See those little

1444
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: touches that I might not even appreciate or what makes

1445
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: it so special? And it's such a highlight on the presentation.

1446
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh how could I forget the again? Pretty forgetting just

1447
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: the ingredients, and how good the presentation is. I'm glad

1448
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: you're reminding me, because that really is a highlight. The

1449
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: lowlight is when you ignored my need for a hunger

1450
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: and food because I was with the kids. Yes, well,

1451
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: let me read My lowlight was when you ignored my

1452
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: need for food and my hunger and instead decided to

1453
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: do one of the following things. Feed Skyler, feed Caius,

1454
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: feed Rachel, our homeschool teacher, feed our new dog, Goldie.

1455
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: And then six hours later, did you eat today? Hun? Oh? No, actually,

1456
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: I haven't a protein bar now those are readily available

1457
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: lights to low lights are to me are blacked. No

1458
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: meal replacements, our power bars, meal replacement supplements. Yeah, when

1459
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: you're really hungry and you have to fend for yourself,

1460
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: you have to grab a bar. Yeah, so low light

1461
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: this week grabbing bars? Okay? And what would your but

1462
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: hold on? Do I get any points for actually having

1463
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 1: an array of bars for you to choose from, organize

1464
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: perfectly so they're in full visual, like I'm always save

1465
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: that highlight for another time? Got it? Okay? Fair? So Rachel,

1466
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, you're married to me. There's so

1467
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: many highlights you must have. But what would your highlight be?

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Speaker 1: This week? I cut the most beautiful vintage calf tan

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Speaker 1: you did? Who bought you that? I did? I worked

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Speaker 1: for myself. Oh, I got my own money. Oh. I thought,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's for permission, but I thought

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Speaker 1: you were talking about the thing I bought you, oh

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Speaker 1: for my birthday's September. I mean kinda I felt like

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Speaker 1: maybe bore the calf thine. You remember April? So I

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Speaker 1: loved it? Well, it's April, so what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: That means that that gift was nine months ago? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so hey, Rachel, my highlight. Can you tell me a

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Speaker 1: highlight of this week? Sweetheart? Okay, my highlight of this

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Speaker 1: week was that I got a really special vintage piece.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I kind of won the lottery

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Speaker 1: on that one because I don't really shop that much

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Speaker 1: anymore because we haven't gone anywhere. So that would be

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Speaker 1: a highlight. A low light, a really big low light.

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Speaker 1: Our puppy, our fluffy, delicious puppy, has proceeded to poop

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Speaker 1: all over the floor, all over our house, and I

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Speaker 1: literally want to cry every time she does it. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna tackle. I'm sorry, I'm gonna tag onto

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Speaker 1: that low light. Okay, not only does the pup be

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Speaker 1: pooper she wants to, she has a tendency to eat

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Speaker 1: it too, and that is I'm gonna say that that

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Speaker 1: is just special. Hey, not only gonna poop, but I'm

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Speaker 1: a puppy and that looks tasty too. No, it doesn't, puppy,

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Speaker 1: how could that look tasty? What are you a dog? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Actually you are a dog. Sorry for talking to you

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Speaker 1: like a person. Does it make it better or worse?

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Speaker 1: That it's typically right when we sit down for dinner,

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Speaker 1: that she does it well, you know, talk about ambiance. Wow,

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Speaker 1: poopy puppy and dinner really go ahead, honey. You remember

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Speaker 1: that night this week when we sat down to have

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Speaker 1: a glass and wine and dinner together and the kids

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Speaker 1: were asleep, and then Goldie proceeded to poop and eat

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Speaker 1: it and you had to walk away from the table

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Speaker 1: because you literally almost well. Good news. Another highlight for

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Speaker 1: me this week is happy to report I still have

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Speaker 1: a great gag reflex. You know, gag reflex is really

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Speaker 1: important because it keeps things that are not supposed to

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Speaker 1: be in your stomach out of your stomach. And guess what,

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Speaker 1: when you see a dog eat your own poop while

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Speaker 1: you're eating dinner, your gag reflex works really well, or

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Speaker 1: at least mine does. Would you agree to the fact

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Speaker 1: that this puppy is so cute that it actually doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter that you might popinate it? Everyone in one so

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say I remember highlighting the other party.

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