Speaker 1: That's that's why I'd be important for like vets in
Speaker 1: the league. Man, come on, man, I can't preach.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I had Marked, I had Marcus Canby, and I had
Speaker 1: a couple other ones. But like nobody was telling me
Speaker 1: like I was doing that wrong. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I just was doing it. I used to I
Speaker 1: used to say that. I used to say that when
Speaker 1: I was Obviously it's easier when you're thirty seven, you're
Speaker 1: still playing and you're doing it. But like, I think
Speaker 1: the league misunderstood like how important real vets are.
Speaker 3: But now you got it's it's it's a fine line.
Speaker 3: So when they throw the back at you gotta be
Speaker 3: you know, combat them. But like, because some of these
Speaker 3: bets aren't real vets. Some of the best, a lot
Speaker 3: of what so so, and I all my kids obviously
Speaker 3: on this agency side, like they be careful who you
Speaker 3: surround yourself with. They're gonna act like they're going to
Speaker 3: bring in some deep waters. They can swim. They've been
Speaker 3: doing it, they know exactly. But the real vets, man,
Speaker 3: are the biggest things these teams are missing. I used
Speaker 3: to tell these man, if you're trying to tell me
Speaker 3: an eighteen nineteen year old, kids, is your twelve thirteenth
Speaker 3: fourteen he's not playing anyways. Get someone here that's gonna
Speaker 3: show up for practice every day, show these guys how
Speaker 3: to work. Talk to him as a real dude, like, yo,
Speaker 3: you right, But the problem is is like there's other
Speaker 3: vets out there, and y'all know who y'all are.
Speaker 2: For everybody else exactly don't make sense. It don't make
Speaker 2: no sense.
Speaker 3: You get the real ones in there though, and I'm
Speaker 3: telling you they're more important. You d to me then
Speaker 3: it was more important on that team than the seventh
Speaker 3: man on that roster.
Speaker 1: Sure easily.
Speaker 2: But why is why?
Speaker 4: Why won't because now we're starting to see the success,
Speaker 4: started to seeing what JJ was able to do. So
Speaker 4: to see how Indiana all the success they had. Everybody
Speaker 4: they kept talking about what James Johnson, I remember that exactly.
Speaker 2: I was able to learn how to do it.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like when you somebody
Speaker 1: some of these guys still in position to be able
Speaker 1: to play, right, and then they even when you're thirty five,
Speaker 1: you know, we feel like we better when we got better.
Speaker 2: Like because we know the game.
Speaker 1: We don't even do as much because I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: there and now you know, you know how we go.
Speaker 1: So some guys can't put that to the side, right,
Speaker 1: Like I can't put like my prior to the side.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna like empowered this young to get better,
Speaker 1: saying he was talking about that hate like that that happens, right,
Speaker 1: So now they looking at that like you ain't doing
Speaker 1: it anyway, Like we'd rather take a young player that
Speaker 1: the minimum is two point one or two point two,
Speaker 1: then pay it. Man, Why would we do that anyway?
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna lose half Butler young is on the bench,
Speaker 1: not cheering. The y is not even like that. They
Speaker 1: can't pass the message. How about that can't pass the message?
Speaker 1: But it is not grown men no more. You ain't.
Speaker 2: You ain't. You're not around a bunch of hungry muffles.
Speaker 4: If the coach you gotta be hold accountable and you
Speaker 4: got to.
Speaker 3: Should never get to should never did that last seat.
Speaker 1: Even with the n b P a right for us
Speaker 1: for us to have that CBA as bad as we did, right,
Speaker 1: it should be. It should be and I talked to
Speaker 1: Iggy about it. It should be a designated seat for
Speaker 1: a veteran player on every.
Speaker 2: We talked about it, and we talked about that two.
Speaker 1: Years Cat that shouldn't go against nothing, that should be
Speaker 1: able to happen because we helping the lead. Just like that,
Speaker 1: two years working for making spot.
Speaker 2: Anywhere in the world.
Speaker 1: Anywhere else in the world, you were working for twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen plus years. Why when you want to keep him around?
Speaker 1: You know where the idea came from. Raley told me
Speaker 1: that tough a couple of years.
Speaker 2: A real thing, said that, bro, because he was talking
Speaker 2: about my situation.
Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, it should be a spot on every
Speaker 4: NBA team for a guy like you that don't get.
Speaker 3: We had those issues though, a lot of those bets
Speaker 3: and we'll touch on it like a lot of those bets.
Speaker 3: So like because what you said, yeah, thirty five, we're
Speaker 3: going there. We still bust ass and practice separating that though,
Speaker 3: and why you're not playing. They appreciate the fact, like
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, man, And that's why
Speaker 3: we talk about it, like play as long as you
Speaker 3: can in this league because there's nothing better than it.
Speaker 3: One and two you ain't going to ever have a
Speaker 3: life like that ever again. And that competition you can't
Speaker 3: you can't duplicate ever in life. But the problem is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you show up on Thursday in practice and you're busting
Speaker 3: that Dude's as like, damn why for us as real bets,
Speaker 3: you understand it. It's called team ain't ready for me?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: This team is doing trying.
Speaker 1: To do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not here yet. If we were here on
Speaker 3: championship contenders, yes, that's where the bets become.
Speaker 1: Huge fall out the league because of that. But you
Speaker 1: know when we came in early early in our career, right,
Speaker 1: it was like the older the older players like when
Speaker 1: we ready to stop, that's when y'all play. Y'all ain't
Speaker 1: playing until we ready to shot it ain't It ain't
Speaker 1: just like if we busting y'all ass ye, the best
Speaker 1: player is gonna play. But the older players is like,
Speaker 1: we better than y'all. Young fella, I got about two
Speaker 1: more years left, Like you know what I mean, Let
Speaker 1: me get my a game no matter how it goes. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: it's like it don't matter how good you actually are.
Speaker 1: Still like it don't matter once you get to a
Speaker 1: certain name, it don't even matter.
Speaker 2: About that.
Speaker 3: Here's here's the biggest issue though, like the championship teams
Speaker 3: are the smart ones to bring the bets on.
Speaker 2: The BA teams are the.
Speaker 3: Ones that need the best and most because you're in
Speaker 3: the lottery every year and you're letting these these talented
Speaker 3: because if you're if you're getting a lottery pick. Yes,
Speaker 3: there's some misses, but most of the thing is just
Speaker 3: if they're walking into a situation and structure that's not
Speaker 3: grooming them, and so that's where the bet needs and
Speaker 3: the most like, yo, all right, you're coming to nine
Speaker 3: thirty tomorrow. I'll never forget when I was in when
Speaker 3: I was in Denver my last couple of years, I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna mention the kid's name, but the ownership came
Speaker 3: to me said, hey man, we need to work on
Speaker 3: those kids jump about or and it just worked, just work.
Speaker 3: It's all right, cool, hit them up. I'll be there
Speaker 3: tomorrow at nine o'clock. It was at nine fifteen. I'm
Speaker 3: cool with that, though, I'm like, all right, cool, listen,
Speaker 3: young fella. I'm thirty eight. I don't really need it.
Speaker 3: I'll be here tomorrow nine shows up at nine thirty.
Speaker 3: I said to them last time, I said, yo, young fella,
Speaker 3: listen to me man, just so you know, I got yeah,
Speaker 3: one more again, I'll be here tomorrow. Nine showed up
Speaker 3: at nine forty five. I said, he got later and later.
Speaker 2: Every time I had a.
Speaker 3: Boss man, I say, hey, this is ain't it? And
Speaker 3: this was a lottery pick man, and not the league.
Speaker 2: I know he's talking about. That's a lot of that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 2: But that's why.
Speaker 1: That's why in the league they got to separate it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and understand who's good for who?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like they so concerned
Speaker 1: about this little bit of money, but they only concerned
Speaker 1: about it with the minimums. The only thing that happened
Speaker 1: in the CBA is the richest Richard got rich and
Speaker 1: the mid turn and push them all down. Now everybody
Speaker 1: looking for a spot is like.
Speaker 4: What they don't understand up top is they need every
Speaker 4: single locker room. It's one you can't get rid of,
Speaker 4: can't get and every every single locker room. Most of
Speaker 4: the time it's one of us. But it ain't want
Speaker 4: it ain't most of the time. It ain't gonna be
Speaker 4: your superstar. Yeah, you can't get rid of him because
Speaker 4: what he doing the basketball court. But that's much. It's
Speaker 4: most likely he's not the guy that's gonna keep you together.
Speaker 4: And the guys understand that the one guy, it's one
Speaker 4: you upstairs need to start identifying that one that keeps
Speaker 4: your locker roo and average is one guy that and
Speaker 4: all the players know it, and all the coaches know it.
Speaker 2: You don't know it a real thing, that it's one
Speaker 2: guy in every locker room that everybody in that locker
Speaker 2: room know. You can't lose. You there, continue to lose
Speaker 2: that person.
Speaker 4: Everybody the way I landed. It ain't me, but I
Speaker 4: see it all the time. You don't understand the power brotherhood.
Speaker 4: It's one every locker room you cannot lose. You keep
Speaker 4: thinking it's your.
Speaker 1: Best player, best players, ain't him? Best players is not
Speaker 1: the leaders Like I don't think that, Like I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know guys like you can.
Speaker 1: So they can tell us when they upset and they're
Speaker 1: not feeling who you think they they're telling us. And
Speaker 1: I got no chill, chill, I got them you just
Speaker 1: worry about basketball. I got them a different coming from me,
Speaker 1: and you did coming from.
Speaker 2: A coach exactly.
Speaker 1: And nowadays the coaches can't even they can't even connect
Speaker 1: with the younger players.
Speaker 2: The players are getting young and the coach is getting over.
Speaker 1: He's flipping them out so much like dudes, the team
Speaker 1: is every team is like even on the front benches,
Speaker 1: new guys there every year as well. I'm watching it.
Speaker 1: I'm watching the six Hours with the Sixers. Bro. They
Speaker 1: switched the whole team out. Yeah, I'm like, I know,
Speaker 1: I keep saying this. I'm like, but you're trying to
Speaker 1: win a champion.
Speaker 2: It's no way.
Speaker 1: How can the first year team where you got you
Speaker 1: got to do from l A Toronto and they just
Speaker 1: gonna they're just gonna mess. You're gonna you're gonna try
Speaker 1: to win the champions Hell No, like you gotta y'all
Speaker 1: gotta learn how to keep basketball basketball. It's so much
Speaker 1: more politics. The money gotta match now. It's like it's
Speaker 1: so much money. What are we trying to match up to?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like like you bringing
Speaker 1: the quality of the game down, Like that's what's really happening.
Speaker 1: Quality game is not there is not watching.
Speaker 3: On the on the flip side of it, though, like
Speaker 3: these dudes keep getting better and better too. If they
Speaker 3: just would organizing structure. I got a court, you got
Speaker 3: your course, superstar young guys. That's like taking bigger, fast.
Speaker 2: Stronger, the unmatched. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: And by the way, we can say that finals. Those
Speaker 3: dudes were competing, bro, they were dogging.
Speaker 1: The talent, talent, the youngest young fellas. Like watching them,
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. They got the ball. It's no
Speaker 1: but they need.
Speaker 4: Like us that care to want them to be their
Speaker 4: best version. I want you to be your best version.
Speaker 4: I want to say the league right now is you
Speaker 4: keep you said ten years with Joe and you keep
Speaker 4: talking about it. I wish I just had a year
Speaker 4: or two I was there. I love to be with
Speaker 4: the heat, trust me, I'm a heat great and that's
Speaker 4: that's my home. But just on the other side watching
Speaker 4: them be and wishing and seeing what he could be.
Speaker 4: I just wish I had a year or two. I
Speaker 4: don't know if I could have helped, but God damn it,
Speaker 4: you the help asking there because I was there. One
Speaker 4: thing we ain't gonna do is we ain't. You're gonna
Speaker 4: have to kill me. I'm gonna kill you. And this
Speaker 4: something don't.
Speaker 1: Change, I think because they drafted and what it is
Speaker 1: they drafted and allow them to grow so much that
Speaker 1: he got so much control. So now like certain that
Speaker 1: he's doing I'm not gonna speak in the locker room,
Speaker 1: but like certain that he'd be doing you don't see
Speaker 1: in the league.
Speaker 2: I just wish becauld I see everybody that you know
Speaker 2: what that could be.
Speaker 1: I came in the league, like I came to Philly
Speaker 1: and he did something. I was like, I never seen that,
Speaker 1: Like I hadn't been on the team with all type
Speaker 1: and it wasn't it wasn't like some crazy, but in
Speaker 1: my mind as the guy, it was crazy because just
Speaker 1: how people could be looking at.
Speaker 2: It like and it's just us being O G seeing
Speaker 2: how talented he.
Speaker 4: Is and he's great brow, He's just I just want
Speaker 4: to see I want to see the best version of
Speaker 4: Joe L ANDB. I want to see that in shape,
Speaker 4: healthy best version.
Speaker 1: If he was in shape, he might like right there
Speaker 1: with how can he be the both the most talented
Speaker 1: big wanted to be healthy?
Speaker 2: What Joke is able to do.
Speaker 4: But if that man was in shape and healthy and
Speaker 4: took care his body, taking Jo.
Speaker 2: What you're saying it was in shape, it took care
Speaker 2: his body. It wouldn't be a conversation.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, we say if on a little.
Speaker 1: Time I was with Philly Dog, I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: he was having I wass remember something at home, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, just watch the game. No doubt, Joe I
Speaker 1: was gonna have twenty and fifteen by halftime.
Speaker 2: Look, he gonna limp down the court and give it
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I was afraid. I've never even seen
Speaker 1: nobody be like fair for of a player. He coming
Speaker 1: in a big muffut. They didn't want no recording.
Speaker 3: Really, he really is got more frustrated than anything. In
Speaker 3: my opinion, I love.
Speaker 4: It just like us wish guys we can have impact
Speaker 4: on that because you know what that could look like.
Speaker 3: Guys like him know like that make the game look
Speaker 3: so simple. It's frustrating. Rite the same thing. Joker does
Speaker 3: the same thing.
Speaker 4: Because it's hard to help him understand after he have
Speaker 4: twenty and fifteen in the first half that you didn't
Speaker 4: play good.
Speaker 2: It's hard because he's gonna look at the status.
Speaker 4: But like I did, I had to deal with that
Speaker 4: with Hassan White Side, they have a triple double with
Speaker 4: blocks and that is hard for me to explain to
Speaker 4: White you didn't do what we needed you to do.
Speaker 4: Look at the number, that's not it's not about the numbers.
Speaker 4: How many times did you roll to the basket like
Speaker 4: empty stats?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's not a knock on them, but it's hard
Speaker 4: to get them to understand when they look at the Statsinator.
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