1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Debut podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: you listen. It's Thursday, the fourteenth of November here in London. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm Caroline Hepki and. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, the rise of megafunds. 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 3: Rachel Reeves announces plans to pull one point three trillion 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: pounds of pension savings. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: Few curbs on power. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: The Republicans retain their majority in the US House, giving 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Trump's party overall control of the US government. 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 3: Plus tariff war. As Emmanuel Macron warns the EU as 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: hurtling towards an economic confrontation with the US and China. 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: The UK's chancellor wants to create a one point three 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: trillion pound pension pot to drive private investment. Rachel Reeves 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: plans to bring in new laws to force smaller funds 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: to consolidate. She told Bloomberg, Bigger fund brings with US expertise. 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: What we don't have in the UK is mega pension funds. 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 4: We don't have those economies of scale in our pension funds. 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 4: Those sorts of mega funds or will have the expertise 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 4: to make those investments, both in startup and scale up 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 4: businesses and in British infrastructure. 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: Rachel Reeves also told Bloomberg she was not going to 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: force pension funds to invest in UK assets. The Chancellor 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: gives her annual speech to the financial sector tonight, which 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: is expected to outline her reforms for growth. Reeves will 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: also emphasize the importance of free trade in her address, 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: which comes as Bloomberg has learned officials of warrant her 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: government to be realistic about any attempt to agree a 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: free trade deal with Donald Trump. 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: Republicans have maintained their majority in the US House of Representatives. 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: The victory gives President elect Trump and the Republican Party 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: unified control of the elected branches of government, strengthening their 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: hand to enact immigration controls and extend tax cuts. The 35 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: announcement of the Republicans sweep came as Donald Trump met 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: Joe Biden at the White House. 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 5: Politics is tough, and it's many cases not a very 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 5: nice world. But it is a nice world today, and 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 5: I appreciate very much a transition that's so smooth. It'll 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 5: be as smooth as. 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 6: You can get. 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: The face to face meeting was preceded by Trump's appearance 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: at an event in Washington, where he told Republicans it's 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: quote nice to win. The party will hold a razor 45 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: thin majority of at least two hundred and eighteen seats 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: in the four hundred and thirty five member House, with 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: a fifty three to forty seven advantage in the Senate. 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: President Tell Act. Trump has nominated former Democrat Tulsey Gabbard 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: as Director of National Intelligence and Florida Congressman Matt Gates 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: as US Attorney General. Gates has been plagued by scandals, 51 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: including an investigation by the Justice Department that he had 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: a sexual relationship with a seventeen year old girl in 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: exchange for money. He denied the allegations and was notified 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: last year that he wouldn't charges. In an interview with Bloomberg, 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy predicted Gates wouldn't be confirmed 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: as attorney general, but praised Trump's other picks. 57 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 7: I think choices are very good except one. Look, Gates 58 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 7: won't get confirmed. Everybody knows that. But when you look 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 7: at a Rubio, just the knowledge that he has being 60 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 7: in the Intel Committee, I was on the Gang of Eight, 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 7: and his understanding. Even when you listen to the other 62 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 7: side of the aisle, they say he'll make a great 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 7: Secretary State. 64 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: Kevin McCarthy says the President elect has learned from his 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: earlier experience in the White House and will hit the 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: ground running. 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Several Federal Reserve officials have reiterated their deep uncertainty about 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: how far they can lower US interest rates. It comes 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: after nuanced US inflation data out on Wednesday that was 70 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: in line with expectations on a headline basis, but the 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: annualized three month call rate picked up increasingly. Monetary policymakers 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: say that the point where interest rates won't harm growth, 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: which is known as the neutral rate, might have risen 74 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: since the pandemic. Minneapolis Fed President Neil Kashkari is one 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: of them. 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 8: I've been surprised at the resilience of the US economy 77 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 8: in the face of seemingly quite high policy rates. Yet 78 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 8: the labor market has stayed strong and the economic growth 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 8: continues to surprise us. So for me, I've been asking 80 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 8: questions about where's the neutral rate for the last year 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 8: or two. For me, as a policymaker. That's what's leading 82 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 8: to my own uncertainty about where's our ultimate destination. 83 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Keshcari's comments were echoed by Kansas and Dallas FED presidents 84 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Schmidt and Lorie Logan. Despite the uncertainty on the horizon, 85 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: traders see an eighty percent chance of a cut at 86 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: the next FED meeting. 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: In December, bitcoin briefly spiked above ninety three thousand dollars. 88 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: Investors are putting money into the cryptocurrency as a bet 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: on possible interest rate cuts and Donald Trump's policy agenda. 90 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: Future Perfect Ventures founder Jalak Jobin Poutras says Trump's election 91 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: has given the market confidence. 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 6: There was a lot of uncertainty on whether we would 93 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 6: have a crypto friendly ADM administration here. 94 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: In the US. 95 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 6: The answer is a resounding yes. And so I think 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 6: we're seeing all this pent up demand the fact that 97 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 6: we continue to see it rise. I mean, we've seen 98 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 6: a little bit of profit taking, but overall Ethereum, Bitcoin, Salana, 99 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 6: which is the base of a lot of these DeFi applications, 100 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 6: they're all up significantly and continue to rise. 101 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: Joe and Putra ads there's been a surge of momentum 102 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: behind mean coins, especially doge coin. Bitcoin's price later fell 103 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: back below the ninety thousand Marcus traders took profits, but 104 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: analysts expect the trends to remain higher. 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 9: Now. 106 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: To Europe, the French president has warned that your risks 107 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: being divided by Donald Trump's economic policies and being thrown 108 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: into a simultaneous trade war with Washington and Beijing. Mackel 109 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: says the US will continue to be protectionist unto Trump, 110 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: but his ideas put Europe at risk of being caught 111 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: up in the US China trade war. 112 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 10: One thing could be tariffs for everyone. The other could 113 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 10: be to force Europeans to separate more quickly from the Chinese. 114 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 10: That's when there'll be a risk of division among Europeans, 115 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 10: depending on the sectoral interests of different countries. Some which 116 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 10: are very exposed to the Chinese market will say it 117 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 10: scares me to lead the market too quickly, while others 118 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 10: who are more dependent on the American market will give 119 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 10: in more quickly to pressure from the federal government. But 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 10: we're clearly entering a world of tariff wars. 121 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Safe speaking alongside the former ECB president Mario Draghi at 122 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: an event in Paris. Emmanuel Macon also warned that the 123 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: EU should quote synchronize its financial regulation with the US. 124 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: The European Union and the UK are facing pressure to 125 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: delay or soften a planned increase in bank capital requirements, 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: as Donald Trump's victory is likely to ease the burden 127 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: on the US competition. 128 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 3: Marie La Penn may not be able to run in 129 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: France's next presidential electionist she faces an embezzlement trial. The 130 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: leader of France's far right National Rally party is accused 131 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: of using EU funds to pay her own political aids. 132 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: She has denied all charges. If found guilty, prosecutors are 133 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: seeking a two year jail term and a ban on 134 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: her running from office for five years. Now. 135 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Those are our top stories for you this morning. In 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: terms of the markets, So thinking about yesterday's close, US 137 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: stocks wavered and then the S and P five hundred 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: was little changed. The real news was the CPI, which 139 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: came in in line, but it was quite nuanced. Markets 140 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: moved to price a FED cut in December two year 141 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: yelds rallied five basis points and then you had that 142 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: surge in bitcoin above ninety three thousand dollars. We've fallen 143 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: back below that this morning, though we're trading just above 144 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: ninety thousand. In Europe, the stock six hundred ended in 145 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: the red, down a tenth of one percent. European stock 146 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: future is also up this morning two tenths of one percent, 147 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: and again in the Asian trading session, the dollar has 148 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: hit a two year high. Just looking at the euro 149 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: sinking towards one sports zero five this morning, one sport 150 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: zero is five five two. Gold has fallen for five 151 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: sessions in a row, and you continue to see losses 152 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: in Asia for stocks, especially the hang Saying which is 153 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: currently down one and a half percent. 154 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: So those are the market. Stephen. 155 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: In a moment, we'll have more and what to expect 156 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: from Rachel Reeves's Mansion House speech. Plus we'll discuss the 157 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: latest political developments in the United States. 158 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 9: But I also wanted to. 159 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: Mention another story that I've been reading this morning after 160 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: chat GPT are we now preparing for action GPT. This 161 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: is the firm behind the popular AI tool said to 162 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: be working on the next Iteration, which is one that 163 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: can actually do things for you, as opposed to just 164 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: telling you what it's going to do or giving a 165 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: description of it. So it could book flights or write code, 166 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 3: even sources of toel Bloomberg, It's code named operator OpenAI, 167 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 3: planning to release it as a research preview in January. 168 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: This is part of a broader industry posture towards agents 169 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: or AI software that can do multiple things for users 170 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: with minimal supervision. 171 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: Well, that's the main thing that I took away from 172 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: this story, this word agents that. 173 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: I must I've not heard of an agent, Caroline me. 174 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: Well, if only, but maybe this would be quite useful. 175 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: An agent. 176 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody can do all of those tasks for you, 177 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: wade through all of the user interface of the flights, 178 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: and you'll have to. 179 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: Become good at delegating. That's the other problem, something I've 180 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: definitely I've got. It's worth pointing out other companies are 181 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: working on similar projects, Anthropic or using one as well, 182 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: which can take control of a user's computer in real time, 183 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: you know. Open Ay, though, has also been looking at 184 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: a set of tools designed to send emails and manage 185 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: records for workers too. So this is a process that's 186 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: moving very quickly. 187 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, can they manage my enormous hall of photographs? I 188 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: wander let's see. Okay, that's one of the fun and 189 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: interesting stories that we've been reading this morning. Let's also 190 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: get on though, to the UK Chancellor, who's going to 191 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: give her first mansion House addressed tonight. In what's being 192 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: billed as a wide ranging policy pitch. Rachel Reeve's plans 193 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: to introd she used legislation to pull one point three 194 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: two million pounds of pension savings into megafunds. This in 195 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: order to unlock eighty billion pounds of extra investment to 196 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: boost growth in Britain. Our UK correspondent Lizzie Burden spoke 197 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: to Rachel Reeves ahead of today's address and she joins 198 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: us now to discuss Lizzie great interview, big sit down. 199 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: This is a major change now that's being proposed for 200 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: government pension funds, but how exactly would it work? 201 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 11: Well, thank you Caroline, it was nice to get a 202 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 11: bit of a preview of this mansion House speech tonight. 203 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 11: The Chancellor framed the pension reforms as continuity of what 204 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 11: her conservative predecessor Jeremy Hunt did, but she said the 205 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 11: difference is that Labour's actually going to legislate, not just consult, 206 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 11: and that legislation, she says, is going to come in 207 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 11: the spring. So the idea is to pool the eighty 208 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 11: six local government pension schemes together to make a bigger 209 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 11: pot that actually it creates significant returns for savers and 210 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 11: it drives a economic growth, and it is based on 211 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 11: similar examples in Australia and Canada. When you look at 212 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 11: those examples, it shows that the megafund, as she's calling it, 213 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 11: has to be at least twenty five to fifty billion 214 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 11: pounds worth to reach that critical mass. And indeed the 215 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 11: IPPR think tank says that doing this is going to 216 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 11: help lift the UK off the bottom of the G 217 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 11: seven Investment League table. 218 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: Raisarievez, though also rejecting the idea of compelling pension funds 219 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: to invest in UK assets, something that we've been discussing 220 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: for it seems like a fairly long time now. 221 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 9: Yeah. 222 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 11: So there are two issues I raised with the Chancellor. Yes, 223 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 11: you can get economies of scale by pooling pensions. Size matters, 224 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 11: but then you've got to encourage that money to be 225 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 11: invested here in the UK when you could get juicy 226 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 11: returns elsewhere. And you need to get more money into 227 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 11: the pots in the first place. At a time when 228 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 11: thanks to Reeves's budget. Employers are already facing higher national 229 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 11: insurance contributions, a higher minimum wage bill, potentially interest rates 230 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 11: higher for longer because this is a fiscal loosening according 231 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 11: to the Bank of England, though they didn't say quite 232 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 11: that it would keep rates higher, but they did say 233 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 11: it would be inflationary. Look, she didn't have answers to 234 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 11: those questions, so it's not immediately clear why her plan 235 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 11: will work where her predecessors failed. 236 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: What else we're expecting from Rachel Reeves tonight? This is 237 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: the big set piece speech that chances get to give. 238 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: You know, the Lord Mayor hosts it. 239 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: We're going to actually be speaking to the brand new 240 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: Lord Mayor later on this morning. What else are we 241 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,359 Speaker 1: expecting from Rachel Reeves tonight. 242 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 11: Well, this is her big moment to set out her 243 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 11: vision for the square mile as part of her plan 244 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 11: to accelerate growth. So building on the budget, building on 245 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 11: the investment summit, and one thing we're also expecting her 246 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 11: to do is tighten her grip on the watchdogs and 247 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 11: cut red tape. So the Prime Minister Kistarma said at 248 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 11: the Investment summit he would march through the regulators. They're 249 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 11: going to set out new guidance for them PRA, the 250 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 11: Prudential Regulation Authority and the FCA, the Financial Conduct Authority, 251 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 11: the REMIT letters, and when we've been talking to executives, 252 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 11: many of them have been talking about forcing the regulators 253 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 11: to view competitiveness as a primary objective in their decisions 254 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 11: and revive the idea of the call in power so 255 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 11: that ministers can override the regulators that was floated and 256 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 11: dropped last year. It'll be interesting to see if that 257 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 11: comes up in the Mansion House speech because it would 258 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 11: require a change of legislation, so it wouldn't be immediate. 259 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 11: The other theme that is going to come up tonight 260 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 11: will be, of course, this is a Donald Trump world. 261 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 11: He's coming back to the White House in January. Rachel 262 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 11: Reeves is going to champion free trade because of course, 263 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 11: labor's really under pressure to preempt his protectionism. 264 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Lizzie Burden, thank you very much for joining us. 265 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: Are UK correspondent Lizzie Burden. 266 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: Now let's go to the US. 267 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Then, the Republicans have attained their narrow majority in the 268 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: House of Representatives, giving Donald Trump and his party unified 269 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: control of the elected branches of government. The News came 270 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: as the President elect announced more names for his administration 271 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: which have stirred controversy. The Florida congressman Matt Gates for 272 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: attorney general and Telsea Gabbard, a former Democrat turned Trump backer, 273 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: as his Director of National Intelligence. Our EMEA News director 274 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: hilst In Matheson joins us now for more. Ross, good morning. 275 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: What does a Republican controlled House, Senate and presidency mean 276 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: for Trump's legislative agenda. 277 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 9: Well, it's a boon. Obviously. 278 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 12: It doesn't mean everything just magically goes through, of course, 279 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 12: but it does mean less of a break potentially on 280 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 12: Donald Trump's policymaking and his power, particularly in domestic matters 281 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 12: like immigration and tax. For example, there are very big 282 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 12: expiring tax provisions and Donald Trump is keen to see 283 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 12: those extended and further and it cuts in actors, so 284 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 12: likely to face less resistance through Congress on some of 285 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 12: the those policymakings. And also, if you look at Elon 286 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 12: Musk and this new role about cutting government regulation and 287 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 12: red tape, Congress can play a role there too, because 288 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 12: a lot of regulation is bound up in law, so 289 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 12: if you reduce it, you need Congress on side. But Equally, 290 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 12: it is a very thin margin, especially in the House, 291 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 12: and not every Republican sitting in Congress is a big 292 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 12: fan of Donald Trump or a supporter of all his policies. 293 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 12: I guess the question is, are they prepared to cross 294 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 12: the floor and vote against him? Because Trump prizes loyalty 295 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 12: as we know, they might find themselves on the out 296 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 12: if they disagree. But either way, it looks like we 297 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 12: could have quite a fractious process in Congress with significant delays. 298 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 12: But then again, Congress has been operating that way for 299 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 12: years at this point in theory. Though this is obviously 300 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 12: very good news for. 301 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: Donald Trump well, one of the issues that might challenge 302 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: the unity the party is going to be confirming some 303 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: of the names that Trump has put forward for key jobs. 304 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: Matt Gates being picked for attorney general one that has 305 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: raised a few eyebrows, including from the former House Speaker 306 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: Kevin McCarthy, who's told Bloomberg that he won't get confirmed. 307 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 12: There is a lot of bad blood between the two 308 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 12: of them, of course, Gates and McCarthy, I mean, because 309 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 12: obviously Gates was the one behind McCarthy's removal as speaker 310 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 12: last year. But it's likely to be one of the 311 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 12: more controversial picks in a lineup that looks quite controversial overall, 312 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 12: because Gates has been the subject of a Justice Department 313 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 12: probe into whether he had a sexual relationship with a 314 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 12: young girl in exchange for money seventeen year old girl. 315 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 12: Gates denied those allegations, but he's also been under a 316 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 12: House Ethics Panel investigation and he's resigned, So that ends 317 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 12: that we don't know exactly what the process for Gates 318 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 12: will look like, but we do know that multiple Republican 319 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 12: Senators are quite doubtful about this choice, So that points 320 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 12: to confirmation challenges ahead, and of course in the confirmation process, 321 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 12: all sorts of things can come to light. You have 322 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 12: to go through an FBI background check, a lot of scrutiny. 323 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 9: And it's a very. 324 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 12: Key post because Donald Trump's loathing for the DOJ is 325 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 12: well known. He's very keen to get in there and 326 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 12: make a bunch of changes and also to get it 327 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 12: to deploy his policies around immigration and border security. So 328 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 12: he can't really afford for this to go too wrong here. 329 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 12: But certainly you can expect to see quite a tricky 330 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 12: and complicated confirmation process for Gates. 331 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: In this case, and then outside of the US, Bloomberg's 332 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: been reporting on how world leaders have been recalibrating their 333 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: diplomatic strategies. I mean in the days since Charms of 334 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: Victory and we've got the G twenty gathering in Rio 335 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: in a few days time. 336 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 9: Well, that's right. 337 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 12: And we know that Donald Trump is not a traditional leader, 338 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 12: so the way you communicate with him is different. I 339 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 12: mean his famous for example, apparently he takes on board 340 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 12: the very last thing that's said to him in the room, 341 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 12: so everyone wants to be the last person, the person 342 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 12: who says that last thing, and he'll speak to the 343 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 12: people he wants to because he really prizes personal and 344 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 12: direct communications. 345 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 9: So in the UK, for. 346 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 12: Example, we know that he had quite a rapport with 347 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 12: the former Prime Minister Boris Johnson. Is Boris Johnson the 348 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 12: person he just keeps ringing up to find out about 349 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 12: what's happening in the UK instead of Kirs Darma. 350 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 9: And he's very off the calf in the minute. 351 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 12: If he thinks he wants to talk to you, he'll 352 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 12: just grab your number and call, which is a bit 353 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 12: trickier for those without a mobile phone, like the President 354 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 12: of Brazil, Lula for example. 355 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 9: So how you talk to him and how you deal 356 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 9: with him are. 357 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 12: Outside the norms of a lot of protocol because he's 358 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 12: very transactional and if he feels he's had a poor 359 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 12: encounter in the past, it can be very hard to 360 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 12: get past that. I mean there's no rapport, for example, 361 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 12: between him and the German Chancellor Earl Scholtz. 362 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 9: So you can imagine leaders thinking very. 363 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 12: Quickly how can they deal with Donald Trump in this 364 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 12: second presidency, and a lot of leaders trying to race 365 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 12: their you know, physically, to get in front of him 366 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 12: very quickly. 367 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 368 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 369 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 370 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 371 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 372 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 373 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 374 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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