1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is really feeling themselves. Welcome 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal, surrounded by a room full of heroes, 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Wesselene, and Patrick Laivon. Hey Greg, we're back. 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't know you're still making me sit in dance chair? Now, 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: well why why mix up my level of comfort? You know, 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: just to make you happier so you you're more comfortable 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: hosting the show and completely removing the necessity of Dan 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: in general. Now I missed I've never missed Dan more 10 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: than this week. Dan's gone doing a great job on 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football on his vacation. How about that putting 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: in some work. That's next level vacation. When suddenly you 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: just appear on a national television show and they're asking 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: your opinion in the middle of your vacation, that's great. 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's an awesome move. You're coming back. I 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: don't know if he had his family with him, because 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: you know they had to go down to Times Square 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: for the show, But if if he did, that's outstanding. 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: You got your family. It's a boss move. Hey, come 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: watch me on my nationally televised show in Times Square 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: and then we'll go to you. I'd be like I'd 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: be because he's in his he's in his Pearl River hometown. 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: I would be dropping text to like every ex girl friend, 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: be like, maybe you just want to turn on this 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: national television station. That's why did you dull me fourteen 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: years ago? A big good move? Or just like show 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: up to Times Square and press your face against glass 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: and and see what me and Kyle Brandt are up to. 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: Mark just send a one word text to your exit, 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: says winning. Yeah, well that's implied, so so no damn today. 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: And not only that, but it's gonna be our last 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: podcast for a little while here as we spread out 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: across the country for various family visits. On the East Coast, 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: both Mark and I are doing that. I don't know 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: if West has any plan. Well, I'm on the Gulf Coast. 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: West is going to the Gulf Coast, and for the 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: first time since we've started this little podcast six years ago, 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: we're just going dark next week. There's nothing. That's what 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: happens with the Wednesday, July four. You know, it's tough 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: to do the show before after you guys can live 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: without the show for one week. It's a first I 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I'm going to speak on behalf 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: of the listeners here that Mike get worried, especially you know, 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: somebody misses a pod and then they keep refreshing their 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: app and it's like, what's going on. Well, hopefully they'll 46 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: listen to this episode and they'll find out. Yeah, they're 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: gonna have They're gonna have to deal with it. That's 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: what the archives are for. I meantimes you go back 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: and watch an old movie and this This is a 50 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: bit of a power move. I would say, like it 51 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: took us about six years, but this time we brought 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: up kind of sometimes we pre tape stuff. We brought 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: up the concept, well, it's July four, people are just 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: gonna be having fun. How about if we just let 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: it breathe for a week, would people die? Well, I 56 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: would say, specifically, Greg, when you brought that up, it 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: changed the tenant because I feel Sonice to be like, yeah, 58 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: let's just go dark for like two or three weeks. 59 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: But Greg's like, no, We're doing three shows this week 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: and next week. But when Gregg brought it up, it's like, 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: maybe this is really a great fin that's how mind's changed. Well, 62 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: it's still have made sense this time around. It's July four. 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: But before we, uh, we all take off, Claibon, you're 64 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: probably are you doing some news shifts next week? Are 65 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: you still working? I'm sorry to kind of rub that in. No, 66 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: it's okay. I am glad that you guys are going 67 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: to be able. Well we well, we are glad that 68 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: you joined us for two shows this week, which which 69 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: is outstanding. Uh and we we postponed the show just 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes today because Patrick claiban in his real 71 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: job capacity, was handling a lot of big breaking news. 72 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: We have a update in Jamis Winston suspension in the 73 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: Jerry Richardson's story. We have some more news including Levan 74 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: bell a little tropoler. Mark Sessler has something very special 75 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: from a listener coming up. And then finally, we're bringing 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: back a segment that Chris Westling came up with last year. 77 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: So why don't you explain it, Chris pick the hall 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: a day when the hot shot rookie quarterback will displace 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: the veteran quarter I mean, there's a lot of different 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: ways you can just come up with segments in the 81 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: middle of June. This is a unique one. I mean, 82 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: you're also we haven't set this rule or boundary, but 83 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: feel free to go beyond the United States for holiday. Okay, 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: we might not have we might not have sound drops 85 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: ready for those, but that's okay. There's those national food days, 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: like there's a holiday every day. Yeah, so there's a 87 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: lot to I don't like that. I don't like that 88 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: pretend stuff. But this is the same Percival's Day. You know. 89 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: This shows, This shows the level of importance our listeners have. 90 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: Because we had a list kind of of okay during 91 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: the quiet days, here are some different cool ideas for 92 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: shows we would do, and we were maybe going to 93 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: do one of those this Thursday, but instead, one listener 94 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: reminded of us of this segment that none of us 95 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: actually remember doing a year ago and really pushed for that. 96 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, so the listener successfully convinced us to just 97 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: redo a segment that we've done before before in the 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: original As you said, new cool idea that sits on 99 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: a list somewhere, So the power of the listener potentially 100 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: dark people. This was our buddy Christopher watching from Alaska, 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: who came up with the idea. So he's you know, 102 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: he's he's wonderful listening. Shout out to Christopher. Let's do 103 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: some news. Oh god, no, welcome back to Lindsay plays 104 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: a wrestling drop that none of us are aware of. 105 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: It's been twenty years since the Undertaker through man Kind. 106 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: I have Twitter. Okay, I have lots of wrestling knowledge, 107 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: but it is it is mostly pre Undertake. Because that 108 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: was a big time moment in the history of wrestling. 109 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: This was a great show to have Claibon on because Dan, 110 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, we really just for internet purposes. Because 111 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: that call by Jim Ross has been edited onto so 112 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: many other moments, then it almost requires people to know 113 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: about that moment in wrestling. I'm happy that you know 114 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: who Jim Ross is. Just honestly, most of my was 115 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: spent imitating Jim Ross. That's awesome. Rod hyans, rod hyans. 116 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: That is uh, that is amazing. I can't follow that up. 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: One thing that is not amazing for Jamis Winston or 118 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is the three game suspension that 119 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: came down officially on Thursday, I think before the League 120 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: office uh takes off for a few days for the weekend. 121 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: They got this news out there, officially suspended for violating 122 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: the NFL's personal conduct policy. He will not appeal the ban, 123 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: and this is very interesting to me because it is 124 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: part of a negotiated settlement. The suspension stems from a 125 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: female uber driver accusing Winston of groping her in March 126 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. Although the story UH didn't become 127 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: public in the NFL was not aware of it until 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: late last year. UH. Winston released an apology. The NFL 129 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: also released a pretty long statement about the incident and 130 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: about the steps he needs to take to comply with 131 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: the suspension. We'll start with you, Wes. What what was 132 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: your your reaction? I guess after reading the apology and 133 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: what the NFL had to say. Well, the two things 134 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: that stick out to me are the NFL saying that 135 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: they did, in fact conclude Winston violated the conduct policy 136 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: by touching the driver in an inappropriate and sexual manner 137 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: without her consent. So to me, that leaves very little 138 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: doubt about what actually happened. And the other thing is 139 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: a potential ban from the NFL if he violates the 140 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: personal conduct policy. Again, those were my two big takeaways 141 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: from the news. I feel like, we have to remember 142 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: that Winston denied all of the US in a public 143 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: statement last November vehemently right and he he and they 144 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: and there were there was It wasn't just the incident 145 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: with the driver, it was how many people in the car, 146 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: how the night unfolded. There was a complete lack of 147 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: honesty um from Winston about this entire case. So a 148 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: lot of people tripping over the apology today, and I 149 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: take issue with that because it's an apology when you've 150 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: essentially been found out. Is different than issuing an apology 151 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: as a lone person ahead of it. And I think 152 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of fans out there that are asking 153 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: why only three games and because it could be more, 154 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: and I think that would be understandable. So because of 155 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: the pattern of behavior here, I'm just saying that for 156 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: this kind of an act in the in the in 157 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: the country living right now, is three games enough for this? 158 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: Is that what the NFL is saying, this is what 159 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: happens when a player goes and does this year out 160 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: for three weeks of an NFL season. This is this 161 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: is a starting quarters the baseline for domestic violence issues. 162 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: The NFL has established that now they've moved off of 163 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: that six based on other factors, whether it's the severity 164 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: of the case. Who knows, maybe it's partly domestic violence 165 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: either no, no, that's true. But six for any incidents 166 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: sort of either of a sexual or or domestic violent feature, 167 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: it's usually that was sort of the baseline that they 168 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: work off of, and they make changes based on that. 169 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: I think what leads to the confusion is, well, initially 170 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: what Tom reported when we came on Tom pelliss this 171 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: first guy, Yeah, my bad, excuse me, Tom Pellisero or 172 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: NFL network employee, he's an NFL Networks owned Tom Pellizero, 173 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: was that this three games comes as a result of 174 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: a settlement agreement between Winston's party in the NFL, and 175 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: so that that leads to to a gray area. What 176 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: my concern is, as with all these things, is what happened. 177 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: I want to hear what happened, why it happened, what 178 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: are we going to do about it? And as long 179 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: as settlements are part of the process, as long as 180 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, more probable than not, like all of these 181 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: all of these things lead to confusion because they I 182 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: think they intend to be confusing and and there's no 183 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: there's no motive to actually address what actually happened. Right. 184 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: The league just said they examined an extensive amount of evidence, 185 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: including telephone records, UH, business records, Uber records, and they 186 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: also met with Winston and his lawyer and got, you know, 187 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: statements from him. They believed that that what the Uber 188 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: driver said was credible. And one thing from the the 189 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: statement from Winston that really stuck out to me. And 190 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: I'll just read it the first paragraph of it at least, 191 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: which is that first and foremost, I would like to say, 192 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to the Uber driver for the position I 193 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: put you in. It is uncharacteristic of me, and I 194 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: genuinely apologize. In the past two and a half years, 195 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: my life has been filled with experiences, opportunities, and events 196 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: that have helped me grow, mature and learned, including the 197 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: fact that I have eliminated alcohol from my life. Uh. 198 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero, now this is me talking, said that he 199 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: quit drinking alcohol apparently believed he had an issue with 200 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: alcohol almost a year ago. Uh. He has had changes 201 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: in his life. He's about to have a kid for 202 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: the first time, he's he's engaged. Uh. We saw the 203 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: jamis Winston. I guess that kind of the NFL films 204 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: wanted us to see on some level. But he is 205 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: a complicated guy in that not only is he the 206 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: leader of the team and theoretically the face of the franchise, 207 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: the guy that you're putting up on posters on the 208 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: side of the building, he's also a guy that people 209 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: in the building they don't just say, Okay, he's our leader. 210 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: They say like, this is one of the greatest leaders 211 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: we've ever been around. I've never believed in a guy more. 212 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: Jason Light talking about the moment he drafted Jamis Winston. 213 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: The ownership has supported Jamis Winston really strongly, including in 214 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: the last few months. This isn't just before all this happened. 215 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: This is recently so that they believe in him despite 216 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: the evidence, I guess, and in the suspension, and and 217 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: to go back to it as part of this two 218 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: year journey of growth. Is a statement from last November 219 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: where he says, I believe the driver was confused as 220 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: to the number of passengers in the car and who 221 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: was sitting next to her. The accusation is false, and 222 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: he goes on to say that in our current climate, 223 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's important to tell the truth, et cetera. 224 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: And so I just I don't know. I'm not buying it. 225 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm not buying it out now. It's this big journey 226 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: of growth, and it's it's a mia culpa because you 227 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: because you've been found out, because you've been caught to 228 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: you to your point, Greg with Um, with Jason Lyte 229 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: and other people being just effusive with praise of Jamis 230 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: and the person he is. I think when you have 231 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: a societal issue like the way that we treat women, 232 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: there's always there's gonna be no shortage of people that 233 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: are willing to say nice things about how somebody has 234 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: grown and how somebody has accomplished this and how they're 235 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: a nice person. Other than that, Um, there still needs 236 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: to be accounting for what somebody actually did. And in 237 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: any apology where somebody says this is an indicative of 238 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: the person I am. If it's something that you did, yes, 239 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: it's it's not the whole story, because right, but there 240 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: is a part that we saw on hard knocks for Jamis, 241 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: Winston did show incredible leaderships, els he did seem to 242 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: be beloved by teammates, and like you said, I do 243 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: think that that part is all there too. It's a 244 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: complex mixture, but this is part of the jamis Winston 245 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: experience right now yet and it the potential ban, you know, 246 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: permanent band that the NFL mentioned, is going to be 247 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: hanging over his heads. He's gonna miss the first three 248 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: games of the season. That's gonna be kind of hanging 249 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: over him and this team as he moves forward. He 250 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: still has two years left on his contract. Jerry Richardson, 251 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: the owner of the former owner of the Carolina Panthers, 252 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: who actually will officially let go of his ownership of 253 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: the team in the next couple of weeks. He hasn't 254 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: been banned lifetime by the NFL, but he essentially did 255 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: it to himself, and the NFL announced on Thursday that 256 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: he was fine two point seven five million dollars after 257 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: concluding an investigation by the league, which did find evidence 258 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: that substantiated claims of workplace misconduct against the owner. UH. 259 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: As you know, if you've been following this story, he 260 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: decided to sell the team UH pretty soon after Sports 261 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: Illustrated UH first broke this story, and that sale has 262 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: been approved two point to five billion dollars. David Tepper 263 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: will officially be the owner in July. But Richardson going 264 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: out really in shame. A guy that was the only 265 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: NFL owner who had ever played in the NFL, brought 266 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: the NFL to Carolina, and I think ultimately this is 267 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: what he's going to be remembered for, is how he 268 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: went out. How else would would you like to see 269 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: the NFL handle this? He lost his franchise. He did 270 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: get over two billion dollars for it, but he lost 271 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: his franchise. He's now getting find almost three million dollars 272 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: those fines. That money is going to address race and 273 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: gender based issues in and out of the workplace, is 274 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: going to good causes. How else would we like to 275 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: see this handle? I think this was handled a pro 276 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: appreately outside the fact that we don't again, we don't 277 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of information on what it is they found. Yeah, 278 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: that's specifically the change that I would like to see 279 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: in terms of handling it. I'd like to know they 280 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: said they found things that weren't included in the s 281 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: I report. I'd like to know specifically what those things 282 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: are because I think if if it's something that we 283 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: want to address, if it's something we want to donate 284 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: to charities about the very least we could do is 285 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: highlight instances of where these things happen and the results 286 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: that come from them, And so I would I would 287 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: prefer to know. Um. I certainly understand the NFL's motivation 288 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: to not know, but it does come across as a 289 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: bit hypocritical. Yeah, you you don't find out. And it 290 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: is interesting in the light of that, other owners have, 291 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, lightly defended Jerry Richardson or some have just 292 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: come out and defended him straight out. And in the 293 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: months since this story first happened, like, how how is 294 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: he going to be treated? That the question was even 295 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: raised on our network? Is there any mechanism in place 296 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: to make him pay this money? I would imagine he 297 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: would pay the money, because it would just seem insane 298 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: to me, uh, for him to make a deal out 299 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: of not paying this money. But he's eighty one years 300 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: old and he can do whatever he wants to do. 301 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: I can't imagine he wants to take on a public 302 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: battle like that at this stage in his life. Uh. 303 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: And I just think we should look back to the 304 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated report, which kind of came out of nowhere, 305 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: and it's a reminder journalism it matters like it does 306 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: make changes none him losing his franchise and and everything 307 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: that has come since then, with the with the accusers 308 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: in this case and everything else wouldn't have happened and 309 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: if they didn't know, and it gives them a voice 310 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: where they would have had no voice when you're trying 311 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: to go up against a billionaire. I'm curious if his 312 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: statue outside the the stadium stays there. Statue seems to 313 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: be in a shaky place from a from a pr angle, 314 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: I think I wouldn't keep it up. Is it is? It? 315 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Is it still there? Because it would seem like in 316 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: the dark of night that it would be one of 317 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: those things where you know, I don't know, I believe 318 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: it's not. I believe I believe it is. But but 319 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: to your point, yeah, West, unless there was some sort 320 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: of legal matter that you could follow up with him, 321 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he he's going to be living with this. 322 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: He basically everything that he built up over his years 323 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL are going to be tainted by this. 324 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: Like I have to imagine that's something that that would 325 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: be haunting for someone at the later period of life. 326 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: Not that not that it's not just punishment, but that's 327 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: just how it is. Yeah, the his money is still 328 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: going to spend fine. You know, his family is still 329 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: gonna be able to benefit. And uh, you know he 330 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: was able to do things based on his position, and 331 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: and uh that other people would have had real consequences 332 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: for and um for that, he's gonna instead of netting 333 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: one point six billion dollars, he's gonna net one point 334 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: five four billion dollars. So it's all fair points. So 335 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: one someone netting some money and a happier Now it's 336 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: like Dan Leaves and just the falls apart. Hey, it's 337 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: the news. We're going to cover it. Daniel Hunter getting 338 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: paid five years, seventy two million dollars. I thought that 339 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: the highlight of his you know, year would be Jon 340 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: Gruden sin. He had the perfect body of any player 341 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL. If he could be any one man, 342 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: he would be a Daniel Hunter. But I would rather 343 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: have the money that Daniel Hunter is making. Fifteen million dollars, 344 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: signing bonus forty million dollars. You can chase that. Boy 345 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: could if I could not want to start to put 346 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: in the work, you wouldn't matter. I could put in. 347 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: You could want a major like gain campaign, I could 348 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: spend every minute for the rest of my life solely 349 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: working on my body and nutrition. And I would never 350 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: be like Daniel Hunter. I don't know about that. You'd 351 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: be your version of him though, and it would you 352 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: would like people that hadn't seen you in three years? 353 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: What is my version of of him? Get if? I 354 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: when Greg down a path where Greg Rosenthal was going 355 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: to start to take like endless quantities of protein lifting 356 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: every day, major gains, like and you just disappear for 357 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: two years? Now, what's it gonna do for me? Like that? 358 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: That version me is like Andrew Siciliano. It's not really 359 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: gonna make that big of a difference. I'm not gonna 360 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: know of it. They never know. Let's let's give the 361 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: hunt there a little love. Mark. You used to love 362 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: this Vikings team because they're a badass defense, because their 363 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: homegrown and this is kind of another one of those signings. 364 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Well they it reminds me that now they did. They 365 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: did go out and spend a ton of money on 366 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. But at the combine that their coach, their 367 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: GM everyone you talked to, you said, we are not 368 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: going to forget about the this team on a whole 369 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: and what we are. We are not just going to 370 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: be a team built around one quarterback and all the 371 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: money go, it drives up everywhere else. It's a sign 372 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: that they they they drafted this player, they developed him 373 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: in Danielle. Daniel Hunter is the kind of guy that 374 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: a couple of seasons ago, I felt like it showed 375 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: who was watching game pass and who wasn't, because he 376 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: would po up in some games and you would just 377 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: be like, who is this student because he wasn't a star, 378 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: He hadn't been anointed by John Gruden, is having an 379 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: amazing physique yet, And but they knew and they knew 380 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: what they had and I think this this is a 381 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: good contract for a player that that is a victory 382 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: for the Vikings when you develop your own players this way. 383 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: He's only twenty three, that's right. That's outrageous. They keep 384 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: paying out these long term deal one one after another. 385 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: So many teams would love to have that problem. Yeah, 386 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: you have to pay Harrison Smith, You've got to pay 387 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin, you gotta pay Anthony Barr Stefan one in 388 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: bad teams. And we saw the Rams do this under 389 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher before they changed the complexion of how they 390 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: operate in a way that to make it look like 391 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: they're developing these players, they overpay mediocre talent and then 392 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: suddenly you're in salary cap hell with a bad roster, 393 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: not the Vikings. And I think we've seen teams starting 394 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: to acknowledge the window right and the Vikings have embraced 395 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: this window and they're gonna go at it. And what 396 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: I love about Daniel Hunter getting paid is guys that 397 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: come in as edge rushers who are six four or 398 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: six five, two thirty and teams are allowing them to 399 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: be that player and not saying, well, here's what you 400 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: need to do. You need to put on thirty pounds 401 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: to become absolutely immobile and had it will be out 402 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: of the league in three years. I appreciate that. I 403 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: think it's good everybody. It's a lighter NFL. And this 404 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: contract reminds me so much of the Everson Griffin contract 405 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: that they gave out, not the third one, the second 406 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: one before he was really a big name. People like, Wow, 407 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna give Everson Griffin that kind of money Because 408 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: Danielle Hunter, he still needs to figure out how to 409 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: finish plays. He was in the top ten in the 410 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: NFL and Hurries, but of the top twenty players and Hurries, 411 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: he had the fewest amount of sacks and hits combined, 412 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: so he still needs to finish. But he's disruptive, he's great, 413 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: and like Griffin that that it's gonna end up being 414 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: a bargain like the Griffin contract. By the end of it, 415 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be the kind of guy like, oh wow, 416 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: he's underpaid because the league will just keep going because 417 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: he's twenty three years old and he's got twenty sacks 418 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: in the last two years. Right, Levian Bell looking for 419 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: that kind of money. It's it's a shame almost that 420 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: running backs like Bell can't get efforts in Griffin type 421 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: of money, but he's trying to do so. He has 422 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: until July sixteen to sign a long term deal with 423 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's him and every franchise player before 424 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: they have to put a rap on any possible negotiations. 425 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: He was on our air this week on the Top 426 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: hundred Players of two thousand eighteen Reactions show, and he 427 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: did say that they're a little closer this year in 428 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: terms of the money, in terms of the money and 429 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: the negotiations than he was a year ago. Uh, he 430 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: did say, of course he wants to sign a contract. Uh, 431 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to have a replication of what happened 432 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: after last year, But if it came down to that, 433 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: that's what he's got to do. It's funny because he 434 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: has been all over the map on this issue since January. 435 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: At first, he and Art Rooney both came out and 436 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: said they were optimistic about a deal, and then Bell 437 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: kind of reversed course and threatened a rerun of last 438 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: year where he sat out training camp. And now he's saying, 439 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to sit out training camp. I'm optimist 440 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: a gop at a deal, but if I have to 441 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: sit out training camp, that's what I'm gonna do. It's 442 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: I mean, they were talking about him wanting seventeen million 443 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: per season, and the highest paid running back is DeVonta Freeman, 444 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: who's making eight point to five million. But if you're 445 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: if you're Levy on Bell, you look out there and say, 446 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley is making seven point eight a year, you 447 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: have got to pay, like me more than just this 448 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: low level price tag from running backs. But he's in 449 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: a position group with not a lot of leverage. I 450 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: don't see the Steelers ever going anywhere close to seventeen million, 451 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: do you? And that's and that's the thing due to 452 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: the violent nature of the game and the position itself. 453 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: Like when are when is a running back going to 454 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: get a contract that sets the market? That's well, he couldn't. 455 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: He could, I think turned down a contract that would 456 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: have set the market. Right, he could, it's just what level. 457 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: And I don't blame him for going for it, because 458 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: he is worth it. Be you know, he had four 459 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: hundred touches and if you're the Steelers, you're right, they'd 460 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: probably live with him just showing up on September one, 461 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: pay in him fourteen million dollars and see how he 462 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: looks a year from now. But he is worth so 463 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: much more, and so I would love him pushing for 464 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: it because I think he is. He's worth what the 465 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: market will give him. Sure, but you can say that 466 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: about any position, and a lot of the market dynamics 467 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: are strange in terms of value to a football team. 468 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: I think a big time running back who doesn't leave 469 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: the field really tilts the field towards that team. And 470 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: there's only about there's about six seven guys like that, 471 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: and Bell is one of them. How much do you 472 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: think he would get if he hit the open market 473 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: fifteen to seventeen million? I don't. I do because because 474 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: I think people recognize it. It's part of the reason 475 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: why you're drafting Todd Gurley so early. What the workload 476 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: he's had in his age. Well, it's a difficult hypothetical 477 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: because he can't, right, but I guess I'm I'm talking 478 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: just sort of globally, like, is he worth more than 479 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon to your football team? I believe that he is. 480 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: I believe that this idea that pass rushers have to 481 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: be worth. Is he worth more than um? Then? Uh, 482 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter, Yes, he is, Like he's worth more than 483 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: those guys, and so just kind of then you have 484 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: mic Ley. I think he's worth it. But your patch 485 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: then would be that these other four or five backs 486 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: that that are almost as impactful need to be making more. 487 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: They will, though, I think Zeke will get it on 488 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: his second contract. And girl, because this is your last contract. 489 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean if you let me on about twenty six, 490 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: this is your chance. This is why you fight for this, 491 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: because you're not gonna get this chance again. They're not 492 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna redo your deal two years from now. And I 493 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: I think that the market from running backs for a 494 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: player like him is it's low, but it is what 495 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: it is. The closest player to him is probably David Johnson, 496 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: who also wants a new if it will be interesting 497 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: if I'm the Steelers and you're a little worried about 498 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: the workload long term, you give him like thirty two 499 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed over two years. He would he take that? 500 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: I don't. Maybe he's not gonna take that, or or 501 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: you give a fully guaranteed three year deal. Not get 502 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: to my one question is it does his own NFL 503 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: journey lower his value in the sense that they got 504 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: him at pick forty eight. He's a second round player 505 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: that has turned into a start. These running back for 506 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: going in the second and third round and turning into 507 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: major fantasy stars and major real life stars. And but 508 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: you can get that. You don't have to use a 509 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: top three pick to get Levian Bell in the current 510 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: draft scenario. And I think that's the difference between him 511 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: and Olivier Vernon. It's easier to find running backs than 512 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: pass rushers. But it's right. I don't know, but teams 513 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: are comfortable to pick in whatever running back they want 514 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: and throw them in there. I guess I'm thinking in 515 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: this current NFL with the passing, the way it is 516 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: not coming off the field and being that dynamic as 517 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: a receiver, just the yards that he's put it. Having 518 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Girley Johnson, maybe Alvin Kamara is going to be that 519 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: kind of guy. Having one of those six or seven guys, 520 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: it's like it's a it's not like having a franchise quarterback, 521 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: but it's a difference maker that other teams do not. 522 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, but I feel like two 523 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: teams have come up with a different conclusion here. Money wise, 524 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: that's fair. Uh. Nick Foles, uh is not one of 525 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks that's making a lot of money, but he's 526 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: making some headlines. And he caught Chris Wesleyan's eye in 527 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: a performance on First Things First on Fox, and Chris 528 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: was impressed by the message that Nick Foles was sending 529 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: about kind of returning to life as a backup. I 530 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: think our listeners should find this article and read it 531 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: because rarely is there an interview from an NFL football 532 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: player that I want to hear that opens my eyes, 533 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: that's enlightening, and Nick Foles just kind of like, I'm 534 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: I've done a one eighty on him. I was wrong 535 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: about who he was. I killed him in the playoffs 536 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: and I was dead wrong. And his speech after the 537 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl was one of the most eloquent I've ever heard. 538 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: This was one of the most eloquent interviews on what 539 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: on the nature of being a teammate means that I've 540 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: ever heard, And to me, it explains I think the 541 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: big issue of the off season. A lot of people 542 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: want to know what's gonna happen with Nick Foles. Where 543 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: is he going, whether the Eagles gonna get for him, 544 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: will he stay there and back up Carson Wentz? And 545 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: he says, this is why I'm staying here. This is 546 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: why the Eagle want me here. This is why I'm 547 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: okay with backing up Carson Wentz. I want him to 548 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: become a legend. I'm happy with where I am with 549 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles. The opportunities that were given to me could 550 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: have led to toxic situations outside of the Eagles. I'm 551 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: willing to do all this for two thousand eighteen. We'll 552 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: see what happens in two thousand nineteen. I mean, quality 553 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: of life matters. Also happiness and peace of mind matter. 554 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: It's not someone this is not someone who's full of fear. 555 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Because some players are wondering how long will their career 556 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: go on, how do you make as much money? How 557 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: do you maximize? And Nick Foles at one point admitted 558 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: to losing his love for football entirely and wanting to 559 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: retire and being comfortable with the idea of moving on 560 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: to another phase of his life. You come back. It's 561 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: not that everything's gravy, but the story since for him 562 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: is you're not alone West and thinking that the Eagles 563 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: were dead the minute Nick Foles took the field. And 564 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: it's one of those things, Jeff hoss Stetler, if you're 565 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, these things happen every once in a while, 566 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: where that where the narrative of the quarterback and the 567 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: person who is the quarterback completely changes. Is the fate 568 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: of a team and Nick Foles the person was awesome 569 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: And I totally agree with that Super Bowl interview, and 570 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: I think he blew people away and it confirmed what 571 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: everyone inside the team had been saying about Nick Foles 572 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: for a month that no one wanted to pay attention to. 573 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: It is also, I will say annoying that every time 574 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: an athlete is an even vaguely interesting, it's such a 575 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: shock to us because nine percent of them are hideously boring. 576 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: There's a microphone in front of them. They're trained not 577 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: to say thing, not not as people, but in front 578 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: of the microphone. And it's because they because nine out 579 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: of ten times they're gonna get they're gonna get stung 580 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: by saying something real. And sometimes the people asking them 581 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: the questions are horribly boring as well, and they're trying 582 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: to cater it to an audience that some of them 583 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: can be harrd. And one of the reasons, like you 584 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: wrote about this, and you you wrote happiness is contagious, 585 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: is because he can't speak eloquently about it. But there's 586 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: also another world where like people could almost if he 587 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: wasn't as Elecant almost criticized the notion that like, oh 588 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: what you don't want to like go eat your team, 589 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: which is which is silly. Well, how much of professional 590 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: sports is peer pressure? Peer pressure to come off of 591 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: what makes you happy, from agents, from competitions with your 592 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: teammates to see who can earn the most money. It's 593 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: the trappings of success. And Nick Foles is saying, I 594 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: don't care as much about the trappings as I do 595 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: about my own in my inner peace. People get almost 596 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: offended in today that like if people don't try to 597 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: max out their money, but why not saying to max 598 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: out happiness instead, right, and not saying you shouldn't try 599 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: to max out your money. But it's that up to 600 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: that person to max out whatever he wants from that 601 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: that that's up to him. And the Eagles did take 602 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: care of him, right right, which he which he enjoyed 603 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: that honeymoon in Philly. He's a freaking hero. He is 604 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: like he's Rocky Balboa for the next year. The Carson 605 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: Wentz is gonna have to live in Philadelphia for the 606 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: next decade and walk past the Nick Foles statue at 607 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: some point. I'm not really let's put the violins away 608 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz. Yeah, let's I'm up in the world himself. 609 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: He's doing great. But Nick Foles is put knocked down 610 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: the Richardson statue and put it up, put up. Nick 611 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Foles has not taken like a vow of poverty here, 612 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: by the way, just he has maximized and made a 613 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: ton of money for what Nick Foles the football player 614 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: has been He's making an absolute ton of money. So 615 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: he's doing fine. He's doing fine. He's in the right 616 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: place for nis. And uh, the we can also start 617 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: planning perhaps a Ryan Switzer's statue over in Oakland. We're 618 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: gonna wrap up the news. Dan's not here so so 619 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: like a slow newsday is like, what's not that slow? 620 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: But it's like thirty five minutes long. It's it's just 621 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: the shows. He's gonna go on and on forever. We're 622 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up with a little bit of a 623 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: trop alert. And uh, I really enjoyed this, and it 624 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: was from John Gruden, unprompted, saying Ryan Switzer has really 625 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: caught my eye. He's coming here not only as a 626 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: punt returner, kick returner, he's been a force as a 627 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: slot receiver. He's done really well. And this combines so 628 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 1: many different tropes that I like, which is like small, 629 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: skinny slot receiver impresses in the off season. And then 630 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: more importantly, it offers a new trope that people forgot about, 631 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: and that's John Gruden blows sunshine up some guys, you know, 632 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: shine in the off season, only to like ruthlessly release 633 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: him in August. So it's like a trop alert. That's lead. 634 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: And that's what he did in Tampa. People forget it 635 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: wasn't just as an announcer. This is a right and 636 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: it it takes necessary attention away from the traded for 637 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: Martavis Bryant, who could be suspended at any moment. Yeah, 638 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: this is simple math. Super agile player and non contact 639 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: drills impresses the master of the hype bunny. I mean, 640 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 1: that's just simple math. Of course it's gonna happen, and 641 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: it's it's rare that somebody is impressive like that, impressive 642 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 1: to elicit effusive praise in so many different things, like 643 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: pick the one thing that they're impressive at and tell 644 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: me about it, Like, don't run over the entire list 645 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: of things, does it. It's a nice little dig at 646 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys too, potentially, I mean, if if it does 647 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: work out with him, it's the Cowboys dumped as Bryant, 648 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: which I think we understand why that happened. But you 649 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: get rid of you get rid of him as well, Switzer, 650 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: and you have no real true lead receiver in Dallas 651 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: at all, So you can't be rooting if you're Jerry Jones. 652 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: You're not rooting for Switzer to to to do what 653 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: Gruden says he's gonna do. No, I just I just 654 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: remember this in Tampa covering this, that he would we 655 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: would write a road to World post and be like, Wow, 656 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be like the number one receiver. 657 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: And then it'd be Monday and be like Bucks cut, 658 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, Michael Clayton or whatever, and be like, oh wait, 659 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: what what are you saying? How does one performance a 660 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: bad punt return or kick returner? In practice? All you 661 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: have to do is catch the ball. Cowboys were not 662 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: in love with him, and there was unfortunately, like a 663 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: moment in UH watching All or Nothing where I was like, 664 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: that's when they decided they might be done with Bryan Switter. 665 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: He just had a tough he had a tough spot 666 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: in a big game, and I was thinking, like, okay, 667 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: that they were done with him. Right then, that's the news, 668 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: thirty five minutes of news in the monet of doing. 669 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: So let's move on to our UH listener that Mark 670 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: got a letter from I'm excited about Yeah. I think this, 671 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: like you know you, we hear from our listeners all 672 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: the time, and and and they are creative they are awesome. 673 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: We love them and this one stuck out to me 674 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: though it is from a gentleman named Homero Meyer. Okay, 675 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: that a little letter, I will read it to you. 676 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: Thank you Mark. For the past five years, five years 677 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: I've been listening to the Around the NFL podcast. You 678 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: guys have been such close friends to me. I live 679 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: in Brazil, and as you may know, football around here 680 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: isn't a common subject matter, even though I own a 681 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: football team in Brazil. That's all right now, you got 682 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: my attention. Whoa that's right now? And some sort of 683 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones a money list one. It's been along and 684 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: dark journey through uncertainties, and you guys ride alongside me 685 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: since the first episode of the show me You and 686 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: my love for football. It may be hard for you 687 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: to understand how important it is to me to hear 688 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 1: you like talking football throughout the whole year. I needed 689 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: to learn everything so fast. I needed to understand how 690 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: far the strings go. I needed to drown myself and 691 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: its culture. I created and run the Moonhowlers, a Curatiba 692 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: based team in southern Brazil. And he goes on to 693 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: basically just found him on Instagram. What a great Moonhowers. 694 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: I hope they have a picture of a wolf hewn 695 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: at the moment. They have their own they have their 696 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: own Instagram account at Moonhowlers. So but yeah, if you 697 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: go check out the photos, it is a legit football team. 698 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: He started as a linebacker, then he became a coach, 699 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: and now he's their general manager and owner. And he's 700 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: also the other thing I love is that because he 701 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: he acknowledges that it's not football, they want to grow 702 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: it all over the George Hollis, he's a very he's 703 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: very industrious from what I can gather, because you know, 704 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: none of this had to happen, and he's now helping 705 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: working with other want to be coaches and general managers 706 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: around Brazil to grow the sport throughout the entire country. 707 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: So what did you accomplish in the past year. I 708 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: haven't become a player, coach, then owner and then whatever 709 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: is running the league yet check out I don't check 710 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: out Yeah minon Howlers on Instagram. I gotta get one 711 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: of those uniforms. Those are fire right there. They're kind 712 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: of like the old school Packers one but more badass 713 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: like but black. But it's an argument to not go 714 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: dark next week. He's telling us he needs these shows 715 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: all year round. So you know what football team will 716 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: not be born because we go on vacation for a week. 717 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: I feel like, Homera, if you're listening out there, let 718 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,479 Speaker 1: us know how we can buy some apparel. I want 719 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: to I want to wear something. There's there's a Storable. 720 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: There's a Storable website. Okay, there that's the Wolf Store. 721 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: How has no we're selling it for him? How has 722 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: made you American sports franchise ever? Never thought of moon 723 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: Haler's as a as a great name to Homeo Meyer. 724 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: It's like too, You're like, Okay, here's a Brazilian dude, 725 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: and then you hear the end. You're like, maybe he's 726 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: Jewish too. I don't know, there's a possible. It's a 727 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: great combat many storylines obviously. Wow, I'm glad you shared 728 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: that with us. Uh And now I feel guilty about 729 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: my decision to take the show away next week. Wasn't 730 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: Mark Brady? You know the Shadowy League figures. We you know, 731 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: we're beholden to no one. We have no sponsor tying 732 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: us down right now. We have one coming in in July, 733 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: but no sponsor to put up the show, So move on. 734 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: All right, we're back doing a segment be completely forgot about. 735 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's a sign that that 736 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: it's not a great segment, but I think it's we 737 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun doing it, and once we 738 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: heard from the listeners, I think it's it's it's an 739 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: amazing that's gonna be a celebration of football and different 740 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: holidays to get excited for in the fall season. We 741 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: are going to go through the rookie quarterbacks and we're 742 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: gonna pick each one of us what holiday they will 743 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: start their NFL career as a starter, and uh, I 744 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: think we should just go in order in terms of 745 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: how they were drafted. So we're gonna start right at 746 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: the top. Everyone understand the rules. I mean, it's a 747 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: little complicated, but well, the only question happened. I mean 748 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: we can also we're not predicting injury, but it may 749 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: not be that in every case the starters displaced, but 750 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: there are some you can put whatever contact do you 751 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: want with it. Let's start with the Baker Mayfield mark. Um, 752 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: I have Baker Mayfield taking over the number one spot 753 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: on November four. Now, I do believe the Browns. If 754 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is that is People's Unity Day, a very 755 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: famous holiday on the Russian Orthodox calendar, November four, People's Unity, 756 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: People Unity, People's Unity Day. Sorry, so I think, well, 757 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: I think this could be the product of of an 758 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: injury or Hugh Jackson finds himself in a very tight 759 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: spot and the cry for Baker Mayfield, your number one, 760 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: oh first overall picks sitting there on the sideline is 761 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: just too much for the coaching staff to with what's 762 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: their record roughly around then? Do you think, well, it 763 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: can't be great? But I I do also think Tyrod Taylor, 764 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: if you look at his career, he's sort of guaranteed 765 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: to miss two games a season or something, you know, 766 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: for some malady. I'm gonna I'm gonna just jump in 767 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: and go with Thanksgiving right right after Thanksgiving. I believe 768 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: it's week thirteen. There's a little Thanksgiving music. Everyone associates 769 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving with music. It's unlicensed Thanksgiving. I generally associate Thanksgiving 770 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: with my birthday every year. And seeing as the Browns 771 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: have that game against the Bengals on no which is 772 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: on thirty fifth birthday, that my birthday the day that 773 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: they'll use the bye week before that three Novembers to 774 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: give Baker a little That was my logic. It was 775 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: right before the bye week. I think Tyrod will play 776 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: well and they'll actually put up some offense, get enough 777 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: people excited. But at best I'm going to give them 778 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: a four and six record around then, and so that 779 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: will be enough gone. They're just gonna see the kid. 780 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: I'd Enoosa Patrick's birthday as Baker Mayfield take over thirty 781 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: five Baby Thanksgiving on top of the track these let's 782 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: someone out there please track. These are the bright and 783 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: exuberant smile on Mark's face as he thought about four 784 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: and six. You're kidding me exactly You're on, You're on 785 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: back in the Promised Land. It's exactly four and six. 786 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: And he was like day, like fine with that, all right, 787 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: let's move on to uh Sam Donald. Then why don't 788 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: we When don't we start with you? Claibon uh Sam Donald. 789 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: My early pick last year was Labor Day for Tom Savage. 790 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going uh Labor Day. I will 791 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: go Columbus Day, which is just because it's a shame 792 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: that it's a holiday in the first place. But I 793 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: think um mistake takes here. It's not even a hot take. 794 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: There's um, there's so much going on in the Jets 795 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: quarterback room. But they did so much to get Donald 796 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: and I think it it only makes sense to just 797 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: give him an opportunity, even though he might be the 798 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: least ready everybody. Um, I don't think anybody would be bad, 799 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: and I don't think Sam is gonna wilt mentally or 800 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: something if it doesn't go well. Yeah, it's our for 801 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: people overseas, it's our national day, uh to celebrate. You know, 802 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: some guys getting lost on the way to go pick 803 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: out some seasonings. Hey, seasonings drove a lot. It's like, 804 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: let's get some word spices. Hope we got lost to 805 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: make a holiday, Wes, how about you? You know I 806 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: was gonna go with Veterans Day, which is about a 807 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,959 Speaker 1: month later than Columbus Day. But Patrick made a good point. 808 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: You give up that much to get him, you're gonna 809 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: want to see him. And I know Josh McCowen or 810 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater could hold down the fort. I just don't 811 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: think the Jets are good enough for those guys to 812 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: look good holding down the fort, so I think they 813 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: won't be able to resist the temptation. I'm going, I'm 814 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: gonna stick with the Columbus Day. I am Columbus Day. 815 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: What week is Columbus Day? Roughly oct fourth or fifth 816 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: week October? Okay? Okay? Is um? Well, that's the day 817 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: after Josh McCown gets whacked by the Denver Broncos. Right. 818 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: Columbus Day is yeah. Columbus Day is one of those 819 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: holidays that as an adult, you forget, like if you 820 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: if you just convinced me it was in April, like 821 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: I would believe you. Because we've never had Columbus Day 822 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: off or anything. It has no meaning to us. I 823 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: don't remember. I don't remember. I have no idea when 824 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: I was a day off from school and it was 825 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: so highly on my radar. I'm going, I'm going earlier. 826 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: I'm going Labor Day. Put up, put the Labor Day 827 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 1: music on week one. Oh yeah, Labor Day. Everyone's chilling, 828 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: he's having a great weekend McCown. And the family is 829 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: maybe coming over, just having a couple of you know, 830 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 1: this seems like a clean living type of quarterback room. 831 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: So I think they're just going over in families and 832 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: they're hanging out by the pool, getting ready for Week 833 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: one makes a lot of sense. Definitely quarterback room I'd 834 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: like to hang out in and yeah, discuss things with 835 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: between Teddy and Josh. Yeah, good people. I think that's 836 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: a good people a room. But I I my my 837 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: thought is he's gonna show enough in the preseason that 838 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: they're just gonna be like, why wait, why bother? This 839 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: is obviously the guy and we love him. I have 840 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: um September six, which is wife Appreciation Day. Uh, And 841 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: here's my thinking, because that's September six is the day 842 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: of their Week two game against the Dolphins. So what 843 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: I see is the Jets trying to get a little 844 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: cute with the Josh McCown thing, and they go in 845 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 1: on a nationally televised game in Week one in Detroit, 846 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: get banged by the Lions, and they suddenly hit the 847 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: panic button because you've got a front office and a 848 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: coaching staff that they can say, you know, we're the 849 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 1: we're the we're the guys that drafted Sam Donald. And 850 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: if he's good and we don't play him because we've 851 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: all been fired by the end of the season, then 852 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 1: the next the next guys get him. So we're gonna 853 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: try him out. And they're there their planned to like, 854 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: let's sit him until you know the right time and 855 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: get him in like a week two. So what day 856 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: is that again? Wife Appreciation Day? Now, Greg, I don't 857 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: understand why you wouldn't know that holiday. That seems like 858 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: the important for you to know that you're gonna be here. 859 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: What are you gonna be doing that day. You're gonna 860 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 1: be here taping podcast twice four hours in a day, 861 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: there's plenty of time to appreciate the significant I hear 862 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: what you're saying. You're saying at night, that's Mark and 863 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: Simon time. That is not what I that's what you said. 864 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: Let's go Josh Allen of the bills, I'll kick us off. 865 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: And I'm going off the board here. I say, he's 866 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: starting on Dalos? Where does and uh? For people that 867 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: don't know, they have the dead. For people that don't know, 868 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: that's the Mexican holiday celebrating, uh, those who have those 869 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: who have passed. It's not Halloween. I know it looks 870 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: a little spooky. It's the same time you're November one 871 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: and second, and uh, I just got to give a 872 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: shout out the best baked goods with this holiday, we 873 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: got a Mexican bakery right next to us and the 874 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: d I look forward to it every year just just 875 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: for that well, I mean we were back in Spanish. 876 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: Classes't know if I'm the only one. We cook dead bread. Yeah, 877 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: that's for this holiday. That's what it's called. The little 878 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: sugar on top. You've got the little the skull, and 879 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean this music, you've got baked goods. Death sounds 880 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: not as terrible as you think. Yeah, it's a it's 881 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: a delicious actually it is. It is a sweet holiday 882 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: where it really is like a family holiday that they 883 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: come together. And I think this is kind of the 884 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: part of the year where the Bill's family will have 885 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: realized we just wasted eight weeks on a J mccaren 886 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 1: and Nathan. No, they're not. They're just gonna. They're just gonna. 887 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna give those two guys a chance because Josh 888 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: Allen's is not really ready. But they're just gonna let 889 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: them each out there to see what happens and wait 890 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: that long. I'm going National Aviation Day. I didn't know. 891 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: I didn't obvious nineteen. Okay, it's gonna take about two 892 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: preseason games or three preseason games for them to say, 893 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has more talent in his middle and his 894 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: little finger than both these quarterbacks having their entire bodies. 895 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 1: We cannot resist the obvious difference in talent between these guys. 896 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen star before the preseason is over, like it, 897 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm with you, Greg, two quarterbacks in front. 898 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: We've seen their willingness to go to Nathan Peterman in 899 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: the midst of a playoff race. Um, we're seeing positive 900 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman quotes. Now he's taking first team reps. They 901 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: brought a j in. I think Allen's gonna have to 902 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: wait for both of those guys to start. So I 903 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: am choosing Veterans Day is my Josh Allen Day just 904 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: to give Oh yeah, it's like a holiday November eleven 905 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: this year, Veterans Day, So that's probably that's even later. 906 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: That's probably weeks week ten against the Jets, Week ten five, 907 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: five weeks of of a j and Peterman and they 908 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: go the reverse they have then they have a bye 909 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: week after, so he gets to rest after being thrown 910 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: into the fire. Here and I'm going here with um. 911 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: The very famous North Korean holiday of Party Foundation Day, 912 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: which is October tenth, Greg, if you don't know when 913 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: that is, but that's October t. I can't wait for 914 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: Pready elimination Day. Well, listen, I think I think that 915 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: puts them at week six, and I I feel like 916 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is the Well, it's all gonna depend what 917 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: he does in the preseason. He can look really good, 918 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: he can look very raw, but there's no way. This 919 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: reminds me of last year's Denver quarterback room where we 920 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: were saying it, all three of these guys are going 921 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 1: to get a start, if not multiple starts, and it's 922 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: not gonna take till December, December three to get Josh 923 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: Allen in there. What was the Holiday Again Party? Foundation Day? Greg? 924 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: North Korea? North Korea, North Korea. I was going to 925 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: give a shout out to the South Korea for quite 926 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: a performance in the World Cup, and especially like the 927 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,720 Speaker 1: videos after where Mexicans are just hoisting random South Koreans 928 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: on their shoulders. That's awesome, But I guess it's just 929 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 1: did give a shout. I wanted to why not, you've 930 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: done it, let's do Josh Rosen rap. Actually that's not 931 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: wrapping it up, because we've got another fifth rookie quarterback 932 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. Uh, I might have to wait behind Sam Bradford, 933 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: but how long will we have to wait? Patrick Laban, 934 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: I am extending the calendar. I believe in Sam Bradford 935 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: for some reason. I'm gonna go New Year's Day. It's 936 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: gonna be two thousand nineteen. But wow, I like it 937 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: starts again. That's amazing. Well, I believe in Sam Bradford, 938 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: but I don't believe in his ability to ward off injuries. 939 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm going Halloween, but I do think he's gonna win 940 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: the job. In Christian Kirk, their rookie wide receiver, just 941 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: said this week, based on what the coaches have said 942 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 1: in the way it's looking, I'm pretty sure Sam Bradford 943 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: is going to be the starter. I'm almost in lockstep 944 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: with U West because I have it on journalist Day 945 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: November eight, but that still exists without even looking at 946 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 1: their schedule. That happens right during their bye week after Halloween. 947 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: Halloween is also in their bye week, so uh yeah, 948 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: I think they throw them in against the Chiefs in 949 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: week ten. I'm gonna go. Uh, I'm gonna go with 950 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: Yamkapoor Josh for Osene. Someone had to do. We gotta 951 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: represent one of these holidays, Jewish holidays earlier, uh, Yam 952 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: Kapor not yam. I realized when I can kind of 953 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: spell it out a little earlier. And this is more 954 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: about Sam Bradford, uh in his health. I'm not predicting 955 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: an injury, but whether whether it's an injury or just 956 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: that they start out. Oh and two, I think Rosen's 957 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: kind of competing against himself in camp and if he 958 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: looks as good as as they hope, then Bradford is 959 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: going to have a really short leash and or just 960 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: uh you know, might get hurt. I can. I can 961 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: totally see a Mahome that's week, that's week, that's after 962 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: week too. By the way, for for those listeners who 963 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: don't know my mine is just I'm looking at it 964 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: in a mahomes Smith uh sort of way. And I 965 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: think that the Cardinals aren't the team that the Chiefs 966 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: were last year, So that hurts my my cause a 967 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: little bit. But in terms of the quarterbacks, um healthy Sam, 968 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: I just and they have a new coach. If you 969 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 1: I think when you have a coach under fire, who 970 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: who's who's not seen as being paired with the new quarterback, 971 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: but maybe inheriting the new orderback. I think those coaches 972 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: have to use all resources if the team is not shining. Uh, 973 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: there we go. We're gonna go to our next quarterback. 974 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna wrap it up. We're gonna wrap 975 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,959 Speaker 1: it up with Lamar Jackson, the last of the Big Five. 976 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say Kyle Loletta by Christmas, but I 977 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: was gonna send it if anyone had any surprise us. 978 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 1: At the very end, the Giants are eliminated by them 979 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: because their quarterback has held them back all year. Finally 980 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: are forced to acknowledge did Eli Manning has passed his 981 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,840 Speaker 1: prime and no longer able to elevate his teammates and 982 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 1: they want to get a look see at Kyle Aletta 983 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: to figure out on the Christmas music, it's a it's 984 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: a merry Christmas not in the Manning household. Your strick 985 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: is done again. Do you have to flat out release 986 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: Eli Manning this time when you make that kind of 987 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: a decision. Wow, that's a good question, just because it 988 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: was such a disaster about Davis Webb, by the way, No, 989 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, why if they believe in Davis Webb, why 990 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: go get both Davis Webb fans would be really upset. 991 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: And Charlie Casserley has guaranteed us all that Kyletta is 992 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: the real They've been talking up Davis Webb like the 993 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: Bills have been talking up Nathan Peterman Gold Trust either 994 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: of them. All, right, let's wrap it up with Lamar 995 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: Jackson of the Baltimore Ravens. When does he start? Mark? 996 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,399 Speaker 1: I have this at National Bicarbonate of Soda Day, which 997 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,720 Speaker 1: is December, and that is week seventeen against the Browns 998 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: and I and what I view is the Ravens that 999 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 1: put I think the Ravens is gonna be there till 1000 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: the end to the for the most part, but get 1001 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: eliminated in week sixteen and say why not roll with 1002 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson against a playoff bound Brown's team in week seventeen. 1003 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: A part of that was not true. You have that 1004 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: at what they uh, December National Bicarbonate of Soda Day. 1005 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: I have the same day, but I was calling it 1006 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve Eve. Yours probably a little more of 1007 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: your people New Year's Eve Eve, the eve before New 1008 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: Year's So have they have they clinched the spot in 1009 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs or there there, Joe Flacco played so well 1010 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: all you overhauled, really restocked Ravens offense that they there 1011 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: coasting toward a playoff berth at this point. And also 1012 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 1: I hear that Joe Flacco, because they got Lamar Jackson, 1013 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: he's trying harder. Now. Oh yeah, that that's something I like. 1014 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, that might actually be true. 1015 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: Right Steve Smith was teammates with Joe Flacco. I think 1016 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: he hinted at it. Are so I don't know, I'm 1017 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 1: just reading between the lines there. Um. My holiday is 1018 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: Russian Unity Day. It was two thousand four, celebrates the 1019 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 1: liberation of Moscow, uh from Polish troops in sixteen twelve. 1020 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens running to a string of 1021 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: unfortunate circumstances, they have to tighten the Saints and the 1022 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: Panthers and then the Steelers on November four, and after 1023 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: that loss to the Panthers, they decide it's time. After 1024 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: moving Joe Flacco further and further towards the sideline on 1025 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: these plays where Lamar is at quarterback, they finally just 1026 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: move him on to the sideline. And I think that 1027 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: makes that makes a lot of wait a minute. This 1028 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: holiday that you mentioned was just created in two thousand 1029 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 1: and something, and it celebrates something from the sixteen hundreds. 1030 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: It feels like they've missed their chance, their window. They're 1031 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: a little too maximize that day. They've been through something, right. 1032 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of regime change there, so different 1033 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: priorities of what they wanted to celebrate over the years. 1034 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: It's okay Russian historians, it's a little history is very rich. 1035 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: If you'd like to know more about that. And Joseph 1036 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: Stalin's vacation home. Just watch the fox's foot the soccer 1037 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: coverage was or was that Prussia? I mean, the questions 1038 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: are good. Office dot Com all right, I'm wrapping it 1039 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,959 Speaker 1: up with Lamar Jackson, and I'm gonna say he does. 1040 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: He starts playing right near the last day of Hanukkah, 1041 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: which this year is December ten, part because I believe 1042 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: it's going to happen, partly because I know Lindsay got 1043 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,760 Speaker 1: Hanakah music ready. We should just prepare it, we should 1044 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: just play it. Unfortunately, Hanakah wraps up this year on 1045 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: December ten, um, which is always I think unfortunate for 1046 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: the Jewish kids out there. It's just like, wait, it's 1047 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: just way too early. You know what I mean, it's 1048 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: way too early. You wanted to kinto Christmas. Well, you're 1049 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: not gonna have the time off from school. I did. 1050 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't a practicing Jewish kid, so I didn't celebrate anything. 1051 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: But just for the ones that did, it seemed like 1052 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: it's out of the way earlier. Not you're in school. 1053 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: It's like everyone's getting excited for the fun weeks later. 1054 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 1: It's it's better when it's later. Well, we gotta do 1055 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: Is it just a school calendar? Well, that's not gonna happen. 1056 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: Although I do appredate by the way Poland founded in 1057 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: ten Okay, that goes back. I do appreciate that in 1058 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: l A, like, there's way less traffic on Jewish holidays, 1059 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: So that's like a little gift that they give to 1060 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: all of us. Greg always seeing the silver lining mark 1061 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 1: weep not for Eli Manning. I have figured out here, shoot, 1062 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,439 Speaker 1: you playing for the Moonholers two thousand nights like that. 1063 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: Maybe Flacco is playing against his biggest rival because I didn't. 1064 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: I didn't set up the scenario because it's a little 1065 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: controversial here. Ravens aren't out of it. Actually, there's seven 1066 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: and six at the time, but they just make the 1067 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: decision now is the time. Kind of a Colin Kaepernick 1068 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: snake exactly like Lamar, like Flacco has been okay, not terrible, 1069 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: but not great, and they just want to see it. 1070 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: They think he can or he runs out his effort 1071 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: meter because because he started trying harder, there's only so 1072 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: much you can go. Like four bones in his back. U, 1073 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: we're done hard in his heart believes because he needs 1074 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: a playoff spot to to save his job that Lamar 1075 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: Jackson actually is the guide to do it. It's a 1076 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: better story could get him a contract. All right, we've 1077 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: done it, Patrick Clayban, you said it all, uh, and 1078 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: we've done our best here without without Dan, without Colleen. 1079 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: This week, they're going to be enjoying, uh, their vacations. 1080 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: We're going to be enjoying our vacation. Next week. Mark 1081 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 1: has already put his computer into the bag. You've already 1082 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: set up you're out of office email. I didn't know 1083 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 1: that you could schedule that, you, he said, used to 1084 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: be scheduled the out of office email to start at 1085 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 1: three pm today, And over five years of working for 1086 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: NFL Media, I've never used the out of office. I'm 1087 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 1: an excellent worker that likes to keep my coworkers, you know, 1088 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: up to date on where I am and when I'll 1089 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,439 Speaker 1: be available to help them. And I'm most so very 1090 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: corporate friendly. Yeah, and you're never, yeah, never, You're never 1091 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: gonna get cheated out of that start from the desk 1092 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: of Mark Sussler. So we we will be back the 1093 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: week after July four. I believe that's uh, what is 1094 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: it the ninth? I think is is the Monday, and 1095 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: we will be two shows that week and then quickly 1096 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 1: returning to three shows a week as we ramp up 1097 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: into training camp. I'm excited. Why don't we play some 1098 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve music as as we leave here today? 1099 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of like an end of our year because 1100 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: our off season it's short, it's three or four weeks long, 1101 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: but it's just about to start. And let's party for 1102 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,720 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Patrick Cleavan. I'm Greg Rosenthal. 1103 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 1: We'll see you on the other side.