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Speaker 1: it's the podcast we take a deep dive into America's

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Speaker 1: not it's a good idea, any of it. None of

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Speaker 1: it's a good idea at all. I mean it's a

422
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 1: terrible idea. Yeah, that I'm gonna do coke and then

423
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: find out if I'm still alive and then do coke again.

424
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: But I really wanted if I thought figured, if you're rich,

425
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: you can have a doctor in your house. I mean,

426
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: look at Michael Jackson, Poor Michael Jackson and his own doctor.

427
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, give me propa fall and

428
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: he's like, I can't say no to the King of Pop. Yeah,

429
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 1: would say no at all, but put me to sleep.

430
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: What did you handle that happened? Did you come out

431
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: the other side? What's your vision now that you have

432
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: this take? Here's my take. My take is that it

433
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: was seeing the was seeing the Academy Awards and it

434
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: was lovely because it looked ridiculous. It looked ridiculous. Everyone

435
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: involved in it looked like an egomaniac. No one wanted

436
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: to see, uh Glenn Close do de butt or whatever

437
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: the hell she was doing. Yeah, it's because they're fools.

438
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: Celebrities are nothing but the worst of us in a way.

439
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm not saying they're not talented,

440
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: some of my love, but the culture is absurd and

441
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: this pandemic revealed celebrities to be just what they are,

442
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: which is completely narcissistic versions of ourselves. And once they

443
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: were stuck at home. They just looked like assholes because

444
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: they were just like kind of people. Like they were

445
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: just like kind of people. Remember when they did that

446
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: Imagine all the people video at the top of the band.

447
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: That's that's exactly what I was thinking in my head,

448
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: was Galdado when I was thinking that ship right there? Yes,

449
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: it's like this person just spends too much time on

450
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: their makeup and their hair. This is not someone I

451
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: should be might that should be my even doing their

452
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: own makeup and hair. Listen, celebrities have far too much

453
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: time because people will organize their life be there the

454
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: revenue stream for like at least six people. Once you're

455
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: like at a certain level of celebrity, and those people

456
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: are gonna make sure you get to where you need

457
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: to go. Don't worry about driving anywhere. They're gonna send

458
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: a car for you. Your hair and makeup, they'll do that.

459
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: If you haven't showered, they might even scrub you, or

460
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: they'll just deal with your stink, whatever is easiest for

461
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: the general team. Right, they're gonna pick up your clothes.

462
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: You have to worry about that. People. We talked about

463
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: this the other day. We were offended when a celebrity

464
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: came to our office and had to pay for their

465
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: own parking. Mortified, We're like, what's happening, Why did that happen?

466
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: They can't pay, They couldn't Possibly this person exponentially wealthier

467
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: than any of us, And it's the whole world opens

468
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: up to you. And it's like, on the one hand,

469
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: you don't want to feel bad for celebrity because they

470
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: have all of the options, right and so of course not.

471
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like that world just so

472
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: preconditioned that once he's like if you're even just a

473
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: little bit talented and you somehow gets swept up into

474
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: this thing, like that's it. You're off the extra exceptional celebrity. Maybe,

475
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: like you know what I like a Shenado O'Connor was like,

476
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: I was really smart to tear up that picture of

477
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: the Pope because I just got to go back home

478
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: and chill where that's where I like, Yeah, she's like

479
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: I made a smarter decision out of canceled so hard

480
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: that she's like the only person who really got canceled

481
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: in the history. Well, that's there's a few heart I

482
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: saw that. Like, I don't know if you remember Shenado Oconnor,

483
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: like that's a that was a cancelation. Oh yeah, she

484
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: got fucked just for ripping up a picture of the pope,

485
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: which is completely righteous. There's nothing wrong with I mean,

486
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: in retrospect, it's like at the time I was like,

487
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: who cares about the goddamn pope. It's like tearing up

488
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: the picture of Queen Elizabeth would have Congress people who

489
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: are like, well, they may have been seventeen at the time,

490
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a trafficking, and we're over here like,

491
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, trafficking. There's not debate for this. But

492
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: to your point about the celebrity thing, yeah, it's you know,

493
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: on some level, it's like sure the people themselves that

494
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: they become whatever celebrity culture makes them, right, you know,

495
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: because it's not that they're like on some level, yes,

496
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: some people who get reached that level of celebrity will

497
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: begin to really I think, switch gears into what they

498
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: believe a celebrity is. And then you always have to

499
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: look for people who try and maintain their humanity through it,

500
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: because there are like versions where I'm surprised at how

501
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: like humble some people are. Not to say that, it's

502
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: all varying, depending on who you are, but that there's

503
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: also just like this thing that they also are uncomfortable

504
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: with what celebrity culture is and what that means to

505
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: other people, where some like you know, you'll meet people

506
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: like no, I'm just I'm just a person, Thank you

507
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: so much, Like I can get that thanks not shut

508
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: out to all the celebrities who refused to show their kids.

509
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: I feel like that's mainly we're talking about the celebrities

510
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: like no, my child is not a commodity, it's a

511
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: person alone. Let them developed in private. But I think

512
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: we also are learning, like you're saying Chris too, that

513
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: when we're all straight down to like what we really

514
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: need as human beings, looking at celebrities like it just

515
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: feels very vapid or it doesn't have any substance to

516
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: it or nourishment, because like you're saying, it's like these

517
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: projections of our own egos that we wish to maybe

518
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: be or can't be. Therefore, it's easy to be invested

519
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: in this version of a person that we think, you know,

520
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: it's also to be sympathetic to them. The new media

521
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: landscape has made it so like say the Oscars, It

522
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: used to be like best picture. You really were often like,

523
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: oh wow, that those people really did some work, you know,

524
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: and now best picture is like Mario Kart, you know

525
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, it's like Glenn Close. I

526
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: don't even know why Glenn Close, dude did but I

527
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: didn't even watch it, but I saw, you know, all

528
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: the takes of course, because I'm a take of our

529
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: best friends. And he called her up and he was like, yo, Glenn,

530
00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: please please do this for the best friends. I was like,

531
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: that's a better version of Snoop and Martha. I'm like,

532
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of a very elevated there, like actually, like

533
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: I want so anyway, my punch line that I wrote

534
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: down was basically, during the pandemic, I found out that

535
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: the real celebrities are deer and bears from hiking. From hiking,

536
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: I was so much more excited. You know, who's got

537
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: more to offer. You know, he's got more to offer

538
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: than Glenn Close doing to butt a deer, a real

539
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: deer in the forest. So what I'm saying is I

540
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: just realized that the real celebrities are animals, like actual

541
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: animals in nature, birds and ship I'm so much more

542
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: excited to see a bear. I saw Bears, Joe hell

543
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: I went, I went hiking a bunch during the pandemic

544
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: for the first time, and that was just a shift,

545
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I mean by point my

546
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: I guess my point was, you know what, who's not

547
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to see I love that. I'm just

548
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: get us all about Glenn Close doing. I don't want

549
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: to see I don't I didn't. I didn't even see it.

550
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: I just saw the takes. I never see anything. I

551
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: just see the takes. So I never watched anything. Anything

552
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: was looking for din Or audio from nineteen seventy six,

553
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: Man Ordering Eggs four rough audio, raw raw portage of

554
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: Man ordering eggs. So anyway, I just think that for me,

555
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: there was a shift towards, like, you know, away from

556
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: celebrity culture, which I liked because I like celebrities too

557
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: and I love pop culture. But it just shifting to

558
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: the woods literally, you know, it was kind of fun.

559
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the first Bear Vogue cover exactly thing

560
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: I would vote for Christian Criano to style it. Let's

561
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: go all right, We're gonna take a quick break and

562
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: be back with one more because we got got a

563
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: lot of runway when we're landing the crafton plane. We'll

564
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: be right back. Stick around m and we're back finally, Chris,

565
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: what's something that you think is underrated? Underrated is abandoned

566
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: mind videos? Um the gold. I'm not kidding. So I

567
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: started watching this is the other thing, uh, Joel is

568
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: like during the pandemic. Like, I've always really deep into

569
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: YouTube because I'm sober and I really don't like like

570
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: to leave the house anymore, so I like watch YouTube.

571
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: And then during the pandemic, I got even. I used

572
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: to watch mud Larking. That was my main thing. That's

573
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: in England, the Thames River, the mud, it's two thousands,

574
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: it's a two thousand year old city. So the mud

575
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: of the Thames River is just loaded with clay pipes

576
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: and and and and and it's mostly clay pipes. They

577
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: find just tremendous amounts of clay pipes. And and I

578
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: found out when I broke my hip. I broke my

579
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: hip a couple of years ago, and I watched Mudlarking

580
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: a lot during that And so through this show Nicola

581
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: White mud Lark, who it turned out, was like speaking

582
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: of celebrities, a fan of the Daily Sitegeist like connected

583
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: us on Twitter and I about talk about celebrities. I

584
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: about had a heart attack. Anyway, She's a mudlarker anyway.

585
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: So but I started watching abandoned mind videos, which is

586
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: where these people go in minds and there's a million minds.

587
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: I guess mining used to be a huge thing. Ha

588
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: ha ian it was like a billion minds, Like the

589
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: whole country was mining up until like they invented bitcoin

590
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: or whatever, so they now it's like mining whatever, virtual

591
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: mining and Mario Kart and everything and um so so

592
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: Mario coins or something that everybody's now you can buy

593
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: stuff with Mario Kart, which is bullshit. And that's what

594
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I was trying to explain to Disneyland before I got tasted.

595
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: So anyway, I I've been really kind of into these

596
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: A band of Mind videos. It's one of these things

597
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: where I started watching my like look through a band

598
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: of Mind, and I've talked about it on this show before,

599
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: and in the beginning, I was like, this is bullshit.

600
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: There's only like three things you can find in there,

601
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: like a old or cart, you know, or like a

602
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: shovel or whatever. And they're like, it's a riveted shovel.

603
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: That means it's old. I mean it's really just pointing

604
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: of things and being like that's old, that's old, which

605
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: is like what I like to do actually in real life.

606
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: I love old stuff and just being like that's old,

607
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: that's definitely old, or maybe it's not so Anyways, I've

608
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: gotten really into a band of mind videos to the

609
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: point that I know every term for a mind. I

610
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: could basically do everything in the mind except for actually mine.

611
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: Oh like, if you had to be a spy, like

612
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: go undercover. You're talking that talk you're saying, I could

613
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: do any of it. Hit me, hit me with some

614
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: hit me like blenden right now and be like, hey Chris, Hey, Chris, Uh,

615
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: what kind of mind is you working before? Oh? Just

616
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: ones with lots of stops. I mean there's a tremendous

617
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: of stops, and there's a winds and there's drifts. Uh

618
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: and um, you know kind of what kind of equipment,

619
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: what kind of equipment you've been on? Pneumatic drills, noumatic

620
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: drills obviously, Uh, you know there's a lot of pressurized

621
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: air and uh, um we're using it sometimes we uh

622
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: sometimes we uh follow Hey, hey Chris, don't drift off

623
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: because we got a lot of spies coming in here

624
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: to this mine. The government's been trying to funk up

625
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: our operation. Meet me at the winds. Meet me at

626
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: the winds. We'll talk about it. We'll sneak up into

627
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: a stop and we'll talk about it. And anybody who

628
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: knows about mines knows exactly what I'm saying. Meet you

629
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: in the stop behind the stall. I mean, I know

630
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: every goddamn thing there is, the no one of mine.

631
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: I know how old ship is. Like if you if

632
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Speaker 1: I look at an or car, if it's riveted, it's

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Speaker 1: pre nineteen hundred. If it's not riveted, it's welded, it's

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Speaker 1: a later one. I mean, what's the best if you

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Speaker 1: want to get into mining videos, where's the best place

636
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Speaker 1: to start? What videos should we be looking at? Like

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Speaker 1: Western mind detective, because he seems like he goes in

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Speaker 1: there with very little equipment. Like there's some guys to

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Speaker 1: go in there, like they're like armed for you know,

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Speaker 1: they look like spacemen when they go in there. This

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Speaker 1: guy kind of just goes into a pair of shorts

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Speaker 1: with a flashlight, just starts running around like that. And

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Speaker 1: I want to do it now, And if anybody wants

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Speaker 1: to once my podcast, Once my twitch cast gets to

645
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Speaker 1: a million viewers, we're gonna start doing uh you know, mindfulness,

646
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Speaker 1: mindfulness weekends, and abandoned minds. We gotta get you an

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Speaker 1: I R L stream rig so you can go stream

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Speaker 1: live from a mind shaft and they can watch them

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Speaker 1: go go looking into abandoned minds. That's the new Cold

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Speaker 1: Grew gotta be like, I want to do it. That's

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Speaker 1: nothing more cold brew than that. And that's I relate

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Speaker 1: to these people. I mean, they got nothing, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's like they're looking for mystery. They're hoping to find something,

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Speaker 1: but they found an or card called pointing and stuff,

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Speaker 1: saying it's old, ye kind of show. That's Is that

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Speaker 1: a skip car? There's a something called the skip car too,

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Speaker 1: which is looks like an or card, and they love

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Speaker 1: looking at those and being like, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: skip car. I'm pretty sure that looks like an or card.

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Speaker 1: Pretty sure that's a skip car. That is a skip

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Speaker 1: car or maybe an or card right either way, you

662
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Speaker 1: got lots of videos to be able to say it unequivocally.

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Speaker 1: I just said, yeah, Western mind Detective is is. I

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Speaker 1: gave you know all I can say is they have

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Speaker 1: more to offer than they first if you just tipped

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Speaker 1: your toe into abandoned mind videos and then you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this isn't for me. Go back again. Speaking of bygone

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Speaker 1: structures that are abandoned and of little use, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the Congress um and specifically as it relates to

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Speaker 1: police reform. Today is the anniversary of George Floyd's killing.

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Speaker 1: Man Joe Biden was really looking forward to signing a

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Speaker 1: police reform bill, one that they passed in the House

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Speaker 1: that had all kinds of reforms in including bandon choke

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Speaker 1: hold certain kinds of no knock warrants like the ones

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Speaker 1: that led to the death of Brianna Taylor, and even

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Speaker 1: ending the practice or the doctrine of qualified immunity um,

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Speaker 1: which is a huge one. It's the reason why many

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Speaker 1: police are able to get away with all the bullshit

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Speaker 1: that they do is because they can never because of

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Speaker 1: qualified immunity. They're protected from facing any kind of civil

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Speaker 1: lawsuits and being financially liable. And we've seen what happens

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Speaker 1: with when it comes to a criminal case. It rarely

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Speaker 1: happens unless we have video of the entire thing. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: like in the case of George Floyd's death. So we

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Speaker 1: talked recently about how Representative Jim Clyburne, who's just again

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Speaker 1: a monster in the in the House of Representatives, one

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Speaker 1: of the just legendary black congress people who you know,

688
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Speaker 1: has outsized influence in the House. He went out and

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Speaker 1: said that he was willing to negotiate qualified immunity, that

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Speaker 1: that was on the table. Like more than chocoles, anything qualified,

691
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: like getting rid of qualified immunity is massively important, completely

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Speaker 1: changes the game in terms of what you can face.

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Speaker 1: Now a quick little refresher on qualified immunity. Now, this

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Speaker 1: is actually coming out of eight seventy one civil rights

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Speaker 1: law made a first, it made government officials they were

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Speaker 1: liable financially if you violated someone's constitutional rights, you were

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Speaker 1: on the hook for for those kinds of offenses. But

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Speaker 1: then in a series of rulings in the late nineteen sixties,

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Speaker 1: the Late Kind of the Late and the Woodstock so

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court decided that an officer is immune from

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Speaker 1: liability unless it can be shown that he or she

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Speaker 1: broke quote clearly established law. In the process, this creates

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Speaker 1: a world where all of the burden is on the plaintiff,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't have if a case wasn't tried

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Speaker 1: with nearly identical sets of details, it would be easy

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Speaker 1: for them to throw the case out. Um, so let's

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Speaker 1: say there may have been a subtled dispute where someone

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Speaker 1: was tased while handcuffed. Let's say you were pepper sprayed

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Speaker 1: while handcuffed. You couldn't point to that and say, well,

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Speaker 1: in this case it was decided because they will say, well,

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Speaker 1: this isn't like the exact same set of circumstances. I

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Speaker 1: know they may be similar, but unfortunately you cannot bring

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Speaker 1: this case against this officer. And yeah, to your point

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Speaker 1: to well, yeah, the sixties, so they needed they needed

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Speaker 1: to protect the police so they could violate people's civil

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Speaker 1: rights as they were fighting for their own civil right America.

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Speaker 1: Never before I needed to protect cops like this. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a pretty pretty even line. Before and now you

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Speaker 1: know black people are scary. What's happening? Well now, and

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Speaker 1: you know this is the thing. Now we're living in

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Speaker 1: a world where most decent people are looking at what's

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Speaker 1: going on in this country and with the world say,

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Speaker 1: how the fund can a cop just get away with

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Speaker 1: this kind of like how you know, Like that's actually

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Speaker 1: a question. I was like, how is this possible? And

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Speaker 1: a few huge factor in all that is because they

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Speaker 1: won't face any kind of money trouble, any financial liability,

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Speaker 1: or being able to be taken to court for maiming

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Speaker 1: or killing somebody. So this just brings you back to

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Speaker 1: Clyve Burne. And I just gotta say Maxine Waters, she

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Speaker 1: came out and she said, I absolutely think it's not

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Speaker 1: Why would you come out and say that you're that's

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Speaker 1: on the table. How do you negotiate like that? Why

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Speaker 1: are you saying this really important thing is up for discussion? Um?

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Speaker 1: And So I just want to play her response because

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Speaker 1: after a few other Democrats have said, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't want the perfect to be the enemy of

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Speaker 1: the good. I guess we could just pass it because

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Speaker 1: we want to negotiate with Republicans. Here's Maxine waters response

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Speaker 1: to all that. But I'm not giving up on qualified immunity.

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Speaker 1: I do not want to send any message to anybody

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Speaker 1: that I'm willing to support UH legislation that does not

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Speaker 1: have an in it. I think we've got to be tough,

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Speaker 1: We've got to be consistent and understand that We've got

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Speaker 1: to hold police officers accountable. Even since the death of

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Speaker 1: George Floyd, we've continued to have killings of black on

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Speaker 1: our men in particular, And so these police officers know

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Speaker 1: that they have the support of the police unions, they

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Speaker 1: have the support of city council members who are intimidated

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Speaker 1: by the police unions, police chiefs who have read that

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Speaker 1: if they don't go along, they can't be cheap, and

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Speaker 1: even some mayors. I'm so proud of those mayors that

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Speaker 1: are willing to stand up and fight, and for the

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Speaker 1: police chiefs that are willing to stand up and fight.

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Speaker 1: But history tells us that they have been intimidated too long,

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Speaker 1: given in too much, and the police don't believe that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be held accountable. That's why even after George Floyd,

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Speaker 1: they continued to kill. And so I want qualified immunity

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Speaker 1: out there. It is pretty clear that's one of the reasons.

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Speaker 1: You know, you damn emotion in her voice, and it's

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Speaker 1: so hard to hear black elders like being emotional about

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Speaker 1: this ship because you know that it's been going on

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Speaker 1: their whole life and their parents whole life, and they

764
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Speaker 1: had and I think the sixties super poisonous and just

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Speaker 1: in that like there was such like inspiration and chance

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Speaker 1: for hope, and like people really thought she was gonna change.

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Speaker 1: And by the eighties it was just so very clear

768
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Speaker 1: that it wasn't gonna change. And then in the nineties

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Speaker 1: there was like a resurgence and they're for real this

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Speaker 1: time though, y'all for real and then uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's still not happening, and it's just so many waves

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Speaker 1: of just like how many times you have to go

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Speaker 1: through this very basic ship before we can all just

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Speaker 1: get on board and be like, you know, it's really

775
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Speaker 1: not cool for cops to just shoot people. Like that's it,

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Speaker 1: Like that's the whole that's the length of the argument,

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Speaker 1: like that you can't be an executioner. That's not your job.

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Speaker 1: You're just notna kill like the and these are the

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Speaker 1: i think the fractures and the party for Democrats that

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Speaker 1: just become clear and clear and clear, you know, the

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Speaker 1: progressive agenda isn't the you know, for those pushing a

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Speaker 1: progressive agenda, they're not as bashful as they used to

783
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Speaker 1: be in recent years because it's easy to get silenced

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Speaker 1: by the establishment wing of the party. Just be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're friends thing, Please don't that's just a distraction. Now

786
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Speaker 1: people are coming out, you know, unequivocally about what are

787
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Speaker 1: we doing? You know, because for the for all of

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Speaker 1: the incrementalism that politicians love in d C, all that

789
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Speaker 1: incremental change, that glacial pace, every second that takes by

790
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Speaker 1: is a life that's potentially lost because we're not willing

791
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Speaker 1: to just solve the problems that are so clear, even

792
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Speaker 1: to the point where we're like why is this, how

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Speaker 1: is this possible? What are we huh? And yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: too many massive structures in place to to yeage. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about. Like Jim Clyburn, I was just

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Speaker 1: reading a little bit about him about his positions in

797
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Speaker 1: the past. You know, he he initially voted against gay

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Speaker 1: marriage and then you know, came around as a position evolved. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're evolved. He's had evolving positions like every Senator and

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Speaker 1: congress person because they have to because they're part of

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Speaker 1: the power structure, and they're the power structure is in

802
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: place because of the police largely, I mean, the police

803
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Speaker 1: are frightening and have been militarized, and Democrats and Republicans

804
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: have watched as military surplus military equipment was it was

805
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Speaker 1: transferred to the police. I mean at a good rate,

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Speaker 1: at a good rate, they got a good deal on

807
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Speaker 1: that stuff. Though. Yeah, I mean so like you know,

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Speaker 1: like my hometown where there's no crime at all, has

809
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Speaker 1: like armored troop carriers and ship and you know, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I think Jim Clyburne, just

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Speaker 1: like with all of them, are under background forces that

812
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Speaker 1: are because it makes of course perfect sense to get

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Speaker 1: rid of qualified immunity. It's that's a deranged thing to have.

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Speaker 1: I think. Yet the other thing is just they don't

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Speaker 1: understand what political capital they have, like to even say,

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Speaker 1: I think like to to them, they look at it

817
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: like this is how it works in the hill. You

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Speaker 1: have a bill, you just kind of show your cards

819
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Speaker 1: to the media. You start working out, you know, you

820
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Speaker 1: kind of got to give this up to get the

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Speaker 1: other thing because then down the road you're gonna make

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Speaker 1: this ask or whatever. But all of that triangulation is

823
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: just so cynical. It's just so slow moving that it

824
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: doesn't allow for real substantive change because you're trying to

825
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Speaker 1: do all this triangulation when you could just be like, look,

826
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Speaker 1: this is the position if not well anyway makes sense

827
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Speaker 1: in in a system that didn't have exclusively to parties,

828
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Speaker 1: specifically one of which consistently acts in bad faith, like

829
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Speaker 1: you can't. It's it's wild to me when your Democrats

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Speaker 1: talk about like, oh, well we're gonna we're really working

831
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Speaker 1: with Republicans, but the Republicans aren't working with y'all. Like

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Speaker 1: it's always a one sided, like we'll give a little here,

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Speaker 1: we'll give a little there. I don't understand how, especially

834
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Speaker 1: when the data shows that the majority of Americans period

835
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Speaker 1: are interested in these kinds of reforms, why they can't

836
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Speaker 1: just stand in their truth on that, Like, I don't understand,

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Speaker 1: because they're not going to ever come from your ye.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the culture of politician and is changing.

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Speaker 1: That's why we see younger people entering the House who

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Speaker 1: are more progressive are like they're just gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 1: sign on to letters who are They're trying to be

842
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Speaker 1: more vocal and things like that, at whereas many other

843
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Speaker 1: people like, well, it's just you don't want to do

844
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: too much too soon, and it's like this isn't that's

845
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: not how it works. Too many people are dying because

846
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: two little is being done too late. So yeah, and

847
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: the Republicans are absolutely deranged. I mean, they've proved them

848
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: so I don't even you can't. I don't even call them.

849
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: It's not they don't deserve to be called a party anymore.

850
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, they're there after the you know, January

851
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: sixth thing, and them just trying to ignore that it happened.

852
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this is and after they stoked

853
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: it and then it happened, and now they're just pretending

854
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: it didn't happen at all, is if I mean really

855
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: in an authoritarian like George Orwell type, it didn't happen,

856
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: like it just didn't happen the way you saw it.

857
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: But money in politics, I mean, Jim Clyburn like the

858
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: rest of them need corporate money to get elected. They

859
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: need lots of it, and that's underlying it all until

860
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: the reason why these progressives can't be progressive is because

861
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: until there's money out of politics in a significant way,

862
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: we will never get anything different than this bullshit. It's

863
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: just because these people are not Until you need less

864
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: than five million dollars to get elected, you're never going

865
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: to get people that you want in there. Who are

866
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: really going to be able to make moves because they

867
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: are beholden. And I know it's nothing new to say,

868
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: but I mean, it's like there's so much money in politics.

869
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: There shouldn't be any money in politics. I mean, you

870
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: look at the sums that are spent to just have

871
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: Joe Biden in office. For that little drips and drabs

872
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: of progress you get like and like, you imagine just

873
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: one person, one person gives you a million dollars and says,

874
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: my brother is a policeman. I'll give you this money.

875
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: But you ever take away qualified immunity, I mean, and

876
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: then you take that voice and apply it to like

877
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: dal Chemical telling you that, or you know, being like, listen,

878
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: we like our plants, we like our pipelines. We don't

879
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: want people fucking with them. And police will not beat

880
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: the funk out of these people protesting the pipelines. If

881
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: there's no more qualified immunity, you know there's and they

882
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: have to consider that, even if they don't want to

883
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: and they know what's wrong, they have to or else

884
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 1: they won't get elected. And that's because of fucking money

885
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: in politics. And I know that's not you know, a

886
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: wild take, but it's just like no, but I think

887
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: it goes It shows the absurdity of the system in general.

888
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: You know that they're such simple things, things that can

889
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: be done, that could optimize it. I mean, but more

890
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: than anything because of that like sort of capitalist class

891
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: of people that are able to manipulate all of our

892
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: policy because they have all of these all these resources.

893
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: That's just that perversion isn't going to be able to

894
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: given them explicit tools given to them like dark money

895
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: packs and things. I mean, they've made it easier and

896
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: easier for people, even people from other countries or you know,

897
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: they say no foreign I mean, there's no way to

898
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: know who donates by design. They're they're made. They're made

899
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: for people who hate, who never want to have, who

900
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: love sadists, who love to see police beat people donate

901
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: to these packs. Yeah, and there's a new there's there's

902
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: been new analysis to like what sort of the new

903
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: conservative donor looks like. And it's like a lot of

904
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: these like wealthy boomer business owner people who have a

905
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: lot of money from their like own businesses, small businesses,

906
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: but enough to give in the millions who are hell

907
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: bent on you know, keeping their racist grandparents rants alive

908
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: through who they put in office really quickly. I just

909
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: want to touch on a little bit of good news,

910
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: which is Trump's blog. It's an absolute fucking bird failure. Nonsense.

911
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: It's like everything else he's ever Yeah, it's completely it

912
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: has become irrelevant. They are looking at sort of what

913
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: what kind of mentions he used to get right, and

914
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: what the height it was in the fucking sixty million

915
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: like numbers. It's it's it's ridiculous. He's down to like

916
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: basically beginnings of the presidential campaign levels of like mentions.

917
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: It's like really really low and to the point where

918
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: like there's people who can this computer science professor Megan

919
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: Squire the way she described it as he's whistling in

920
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: the wind. People just people just starn't following him to

921
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: his little desk platform. And we can see that in

922
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: the numbers. The difference is ridiculous. He doesn't have that

923
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: same ability. I hope the name of his blog is

924
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: whistling in the way. Whistling in the way. That's too smart.

925
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: You've given too much. He would never know. But then

926
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: he said he doesn't have the same ability anymore. Constantly,

927
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the same ability to constantly put his

928
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: content in people's faces the way he did before, and

929
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: it's like he's kind of panicking too because he doesn't

930
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: know what to do because he knows it's not hitting

931
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: like he used to. He can't even start to get

932
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: he's got mounting legal fees, and they're saying but when

933
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: they point out look at other conservative platforms that were created,

934
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: you know a lot of conservatives like tried to create

935
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: these alternative social media platforms because cancel culture, and they

936
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: tried to predict like, oh, if we can just get

937
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: Trump to use our product, then we're gonna be fucking

938
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: killing it. But the thing is they keep asking him

939
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: to endorse one of these and he won't because he

940
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: looks at them as like less less than compared like

941
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: sort of analogs to like Twitter. So he's like, no,

942
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: it's like enough brand Twitter, I'm not gonna do it.

943
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: Like he he still gets that he wants to be

944
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: on Twitter and it doesn't matter even if they give

945
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: him money. They say that might change because to your point, Chris,

946
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: legal fees, But at the moment, he's like, you know,

947
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: it's like when your parents, like, we have McDonald's at home.

948
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: He's like we don't have McDonald's at home. We have parlor.

949
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: Whatever the funk it is. It's not Twitter, mom, and

950
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: which is now His whole team is trying to work

951
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: on something they're calling Trump Media Group, which they hope

952
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: to launch in this summer, will include a new social

953
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: media platform, and they say they talked to Trump regularly

954
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: about it and they're getting updates on it, but the

955
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: final product is not ready yet. Okay, several points. Why

956
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: would anyone in their right mind try to launch a

957
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: social media app this summer? We're gonna be wilding in

958
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: the Who the hell is looking for a new social

959
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: media platform? This shot girls summer. I love it. I

960
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: love Joel with a practical side of it. Just like

961
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: first of all, business bears in the woods, and this

962
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: is not the time app how they think it's like,

963
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: what makes a great is the discourse. And you're not

964
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: going to bring liberals to a Trump supported app. It's

965
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: just not going to happen. And so it's gonna be

966
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: like when they put private servers up for like Nazis

967
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: on video games. They're like Nazism, Fine, you go to

968
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: that server with all the other Nazis and live in

969
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: that little man and everybody else will leave you alone

970
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: and it'll be great. There's no way you're not gonna

971
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: get the discourse, which is what makes social media juicy

972
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: in the first place. Why are you doing this? I

973
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: just it's annoying to me that he could be so

974
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: bad at businessing it. So many chances correct better at

975
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: business than Trump. I didn't go to business school. I'm

976
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: terrible with money. Give me some money. I will make

977
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: a plan for you. It'll be better, not much, you

978
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: know the right. I love that right. Melanin Love was

979
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: in generational wealth can do for you, you know, I

980
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: love that so much. I'd love that that analysis because like,

981
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: this is the thing. The funny thing about this is,

982
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: I've been thinking this, but I didn't really understand. It's

983
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: just because he's old. Like I love their launching this summer,

984
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: like just the whole idea that they're gonna need all

985
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: that time, Like um, like someone younger would have this,

986
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: would have had this thing up and running like the

987
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: day he was out there. It's because they're using you know,

988
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: they're using their chrony network of people's nephews and cousins

989
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: to design and ship and it's gonna be a piece

990
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: of ship and it's gonna take forever. I just I'm

991
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: just gonna love when they're like, oh my god, the

992
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: Mago world led him dry, like even a little bit

993
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: of money he had, like completely just Jason Miller's son

994
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: is really good at the Internet. So he's designing the

995
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: new Trump blog and he's like, when I'm just looking

996
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: at the accounting, you gave that kid thirty million dollars

997
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: to develop a skin for a WordPress site. Oh when

998
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: he's hanging out with Matt Gates, So funk, where did

999
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: that money go? Yeah? Anyway, Uh, let's wrap this section

1000
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: up and we'll come back to for some riveting discourse

1001
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: on the music of our generation right after this, and

1002
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: we're back. I guess I will. I will start off

1003
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: by talking about this new album from my perspective as

1004
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: a completely ignorant, older millennial person. I know that Olivia

1005
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: Rodrigo had an album come out called I saw the

1006
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: memes that said millennials are feeling like a little emo

1007
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: kids again, and I said, Okay, that's interesting. I did here.

1008
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: I know of this song Driver's License, and that's all

1009
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: I knew prior to listening to this album, because I

1010
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: just knew it was a you know, that's what we

1011
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: do here on the daily. I guess if it's just

1012
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: it's part of it. We gotta dabble in it. We

1013
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: gotta dip our toe in, so Joel the lead us

1014
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: in this discussion now of Olivia Rodrigo's South Okay, listen

1015
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: as we prepared to enter a world determined to re

1016
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: establish the status quo after we've learned so much how

1017
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: I can change and be better. As we enter a

1018
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: world where everyone is horny as bunnies and relationships are

1019
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: going to be mute for at least the next six months,

1020
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: we could all use a heavy dose of teen angst

1021
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: and heartbreak. Hey, Olivia Rodrigo is here to even the

1022
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: scales of whatever is about to be this summer. Okay.

1023
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: Famous for her turn on High School Musical The musical

1024
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: the TV series, one of the greatest titles for a

1025
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: television show ever, and later for her Worldland romance with

1026
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: co star Joshua Bennett allegedly but allegedly uh chronic which

1027
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: she allegedly chronicled in her first song, Driver's License, Olivia

1028
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: Rodrigo has one of the most epic introductions to pop

1029
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: stardom since Lady Gaga Wolf Lady Gaga, who's fagulessly wealthy,

1030
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: parents and connections in the industry didn't stop the world

1031
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: from viewing her as the hot new thing from out

1032
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Rodrigo, as Olivia horn Right wrote for Pitchfork,

1033
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: has been on TV for roughly a third of her life,

1034
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: and it started with the biggest record company in the world,

1035
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: and everyone views her as an underdog. Right, So, Rodrigo

1036
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: is heavily inspired by Taylor Switch that you can hear

1037
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: all throughout Sour. Sour is about your first major heartbreaking

1038
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: all of the angst that comes with that. Mixes heavy

1039
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: guitars orchestral strings. Rodrigo a collaborative writer Daniel Negro in

1040
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: true of the album with one of my new favorite bangers, Brutal.

1041
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: If you didn't catch it, that was my intro song.

1042
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: Was inspired by the song Brutal. If you've ever been

1043
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old girl, I was, This album will

1044
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: shoot you back to your final year of high school

1045
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: where you were impatiently waiting for life to begin, with

1046
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: lyrics like I'm so insecure, I think that I'll die

1047
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: before I drink and I'm so sick of teen Where's

1048
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: my fucking teenage dream? The anxious hormone riddled insecure feelings

1049
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 1: come rushing back, but so does the power of the fucket.

1050
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: The feeling that you'll never die in the whole world

1051
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: lace before you. If only you could figure out where

1052
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: to start. The two minutes and twenty three second Power

1053
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: Jam blows out the ear drums and revise the inner

1054
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: bratt drama queen jerk lover hiding beneath our practice manners,

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00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: and it's so, so, so good. The album launched after

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00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: Rodrigo dropped a music video for Good for You, which

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00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: was directed by Petrick Collins. DC bands already know my

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00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: love for Haley from Paramore, and there's definitely inspirationally throughout

1059
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: the song. Cheater Aesthetics ala Nirvana's Team Spirit and everl

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00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: Levine's video is pop punk perfection. They let her bedroom

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00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: on fire and then they flood it at the same time.

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00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: Teams have so many emotions Driver's license but eight weeks

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00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: at the top of Billboards Hot one hundred. The piano

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00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: heavy Power Ballot is humored to be about Rodrigo's relationship

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: with Bennett. As I mentioned at the top, so that's

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00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: not been confirmed. Online SLOs have been hard at work

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00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: decoding old I G posts between the stars. We're gonna

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00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: leave speculation to the professionals. But what I love about

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00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: this song is a feeling of driving melancholically through your hometown.

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00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: Rodrigo said she wrote the song after driving around crying.

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00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: I Get a Girl destined to become an epic Charioke

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00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: song and probably a great stadium ballad. The best part

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00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: it's the bridge, which is designed to be sung and

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00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: heavily with a heavily intoxicated crowd reminiscent of Maggie Rogers

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00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: say its Driver's right since launches Rodrigo to global I'm

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: curious about this album. Okay, this is where I'm I'm

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00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it through the lens of like some

1078
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: of the music, like just the arrangements don't vibe with me.

1079
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking I was like, but no, there was

1080
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: a time when Vanessa Carlton got into my fucking mind,

1081
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: even though it was the last ship I would put

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00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: um and be like bury me with my Vanessa Carlton LP.

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00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: And I was trying to keep my heart open for

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00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: this and what I found was I liked the like

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00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: deep cuts like I liked one Step Forward, three Steps back,

1086
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: good feeling that one jealousy Jealousy was I was digging

1087
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: that one too, But those felt like those are a

1088
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: little I think it was because the production I could

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00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: relate to a little bit more the ankst though I

1090
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: was feeling the days Boot said, fucking strawberry ice cream, Malibou,

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00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean with the two spoons, Yeah,

1092
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: one spoon for two. Dejah Boo is my ship because

1093
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: I love a song that is about just jealousy and

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00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: hating a bit. I can't hate outwardly. It's really hard

1095
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: for me. I'm very forgetting, but a song will get

1096
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: me there. I'll be like you, we did that first

1097
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: and every time you with her, Deja Bou. Whatever you're

1098
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: feeling for her, he felt for me regularly. You don't

1099
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: forget who. It gets under the skin. It's good Listen.

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00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: This album bounces back and forth between a lot of

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00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: like there's obviously a lot of inspiration from like early

1102
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: nineties rock, but then the odds like punk pop, Princess era. Uh,

1103
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: there's some new stuff. There's a very very much a

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00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: musical theater kids album, and that it's very leading with

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00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: either you know, pianos, guitar or um xylophone or kind

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: of heavily featured instruments and leading with her vocals. For me,

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00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: it's an album no skips. I listened to the whole

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00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: album several times. Brutal is sly my favorite track off

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00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: the album. I think it's a seventeen year old album,

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00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: and I think that's the difference for a lot of

1111
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: people if you're like me and like seventeen was like

1112
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: a very hard time for me, Like I didn't know

1113
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: which it was, I didn't know what I wanted to do.

1114
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: I sort of felt like a failure trying into college

1115
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: and it was an awful experience. It was a mess,

1116
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's nice to revisit, especially for a seventeen

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: year old who's got a lot of talent, who is

1118
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: sort of going through the basic emotional upheavals that I

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00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: think again, as like a thirty year old, I can't

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00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: publicly display any of that, but sometimes I still feel

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00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: it on the inside, and it's cool knock out with

1122
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: an album that's like expressing that very specific, specific hurt Chris,

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00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, that feeling of going to Malibu strawberry ice

1124
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: cream spoons for two. I grew up in Connecticut in

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00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: the nineties. What do you think? Like, okay, so let's

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00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: see what are the parallels here? Do you what? What

1127
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: was your first idea knowing like when I I hit

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Speaker 1: you up said we're gonna talk about this album? Is

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01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: a sensation is for you know great Emo's gen z

1130
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: Angst album. What are you seeing from your fromt Okay,

1131
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of kidding. I mean, I grew up in

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01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: the eighties mostly I was born in sixty nine, so,

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01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: but I was born in sixty nine, so like you know,

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01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: fifteen seventeen and n So for me, this kind of

1135
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: stuff was like, I don't Bruce Hornsby. That's just the

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01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: way it is some things when they have a change,

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01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: which of course is sampled by like puff Daddy, I

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: mean this or something like, I mean, that's not even

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01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: how people will ever have understand that song. Now they're like, oh,

1140
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: that's a sample racist faces. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's a

1141
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: good two pocks version is awesome. But anyway, I'm I'm

1142
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: a big pop music fan, so I mean, I I

1143
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: can I right away like this. But it also reminded

1144
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: me of so many other things. It reminded me of Lord,

1145
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: like most slate, like green Light. It sounds like the

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01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: whole record to me. I just skimmed it, but it

1147
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: sounds like all sounds like green Light by Lord. And also,

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01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't know this is this is the part where

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01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be a crabby old. It's not as

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01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: good as Gordon Lights. I don't know. I just wanted

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01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: to say that. But I don't need any more seventeen

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01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: year old perspective and need neither neither does anyone else.

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01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: You know, we have so many seventeen year old wing

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01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: on being seventeen, which is like the least consequential age.

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01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: Everyone grows up past that unless you get run over

1156
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: by trunk. I mean, like you, I'm just saying that.

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01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: Like the reason why teenagers are making all the music

1158
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 1: today usually paired up with an older white guy, which

1159
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: is this Ni Dan Nigro, who's listed as the principal

1160
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: songwriter on all these songs. It's another like Jack Antonoff

1161
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: kind of guy. It's like these these white older guys

1162
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: telling seventeen year old what seventeen year old anks sounds like.

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01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: For the consumption of the most people, because old people

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01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: and young people are the only ones who buy CDs. Now,

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01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: these they're still idiots who buy CDs, and they're mostly

1166
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: coming back. They're mostly children. Children still buy CDs, and

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01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: so that's why music is mostly aimed at teenagers, because

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01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: they're the only ones who still spend money, and so

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01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: do old people, old old people. That's why like Rod

1170
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: Stewart was able to put out like ninety albums of staying.

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01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, It's because old people don't

1172
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: know how to steal music, and neither to fifteen year olds.

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01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying this is this, and I'm not

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01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like Joel at all that I don't

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01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: like it, but I do it. I think no, but

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01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: I do. I do like it, but I am tired

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01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: of like life is. I'm like seventeen. I used to

1178
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: be a I mean, seventeen is is hard, There's no

1179
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: doubt about it. But you can get past it. I'd

1180
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: rather hear songs about that than hear about like more

1181
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: breakup songs from like seven song is just about being

1182
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: in your feelings in that moment. And I think that

1183
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: while I completely agree, like I don't like my music

1184
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: for the past six years has all been at least

1185
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: women in their thirties, right, Like you think about what's

1186
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: happening not just in pop music, but specifically like black

1187
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: pop music. Like for me, it's like Solange since said,

1188
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: I think it's in her mid twenties. Uh, then you

1189
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: have Cardi B and her, and it's all these women

1190
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: who are like way past this like teenage phase and

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01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: then talking about grown woman ship, which has been phenomenal,

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01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: Like very grateful to have have these women in my

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01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: life to get me through the last horrible couple of years.

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01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: But there's something I think, particularly in the same way

1195
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: that I was really Jasmine Willow started releasing music, there's

1196
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: something about young women coming out and singing like just

1197
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: like these I just love a fuckingt song, I really

1198
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: really do, And I feel like this whole album is

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01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: basically like I'm so all my feelings and I'm so

1200
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: hurt and I don't know what to do about it. Yeah,

1201
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: you just got broken up with out a shake shock

1202
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: and you're driving home because you're the meal was ruined

1203
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: because you got broken up with, and you're blasting this

1204
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: with tears coming down your face because that's what you need.

1205
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: It for. But my question is to you, Chris, have

1206
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: you ever listened to a track in this sense like

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01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: where you're like, I this was, this is what I

1208
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: needed at my lowest. It helps bring this sad songs

1209
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: I love break up? So what is that for you? Oh?

1210
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: I get that, But that's why I'm trying to. I'm

1211
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: trying to your old angst to me is like, listen,

1212
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: here's what you write a song about. You write a

1213
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: song about how love isn't real, and eventually you find

1214
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: out that the real thing is just looking at bears

1215
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: and deer. So my perspective is love. Yeah, sure, I

1216
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: mean you can yell and scream about it, but in

1217
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: the end, it's just you know you're gonna get divorced

1218
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: and just to you know, get real and and and

1219
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: go on a diet or whatever. I mean, know, go paleo.

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01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: What's the song that specifically to you? What when you

1221
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: were seventeen, what's the song you listen to to feel

1222
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: all angsty and emotional? What was that song for you

1223
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: in that time? Getting your DeLorean Chris, and tell me

1224
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: what you're listening to. I didn't God, I wish I

1225
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: was rich enough to have Doloian Uh, I was, I

1226
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: would say, like, God, I listened to a lot of

1227
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: John Denver, Cat stevens Kevin's. Uh the Father and Son song?

1228
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: What's that one? It's the one where the kid's gonna

1229
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: leave home and his dad's like he's like I gotta go,

1230
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: and his dad's like stay and and he's like I

1231
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: gotta be a man and and you know it's the same.

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01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: Interesting though, how lyrics have like evolved, right because you

1233
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: go from like this Cat Stephens song Father and Son

1234
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: where it's just like there's so much you have to know,

1235
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: find a girl, settle down if you want, you can marry.

1236
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: Look at me. I'm old, but I'm happy. Like if

1237
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: they felt very folksy then and then like there's like

1238
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: then I think of like what the angst was maybe

1239
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: around like like a Fiona Apple title, like her album title,

1240
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: which is very poetic. You know, it's you know what

1241
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean where she's like I've got my feet on

1242
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: the ground and I don't go to sleep to dream.

1243
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, you're like, oh ship, And now we have

1244
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: like the lyrics of Olivia Rodrigo that are like so

1245
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: easy to like just to understand there's no ambiguity in

1246
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 1: the lyrics, like we're talking about straight up jealousy, we're

1247
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: talking about why are you comparing the relationships? We're talking

1248
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: like quite literally, I feel like a fucking loser, you

1249
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: know me. And I think there's something to the directness

1250
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: that is very different to the this style of music

1251
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: or this genre of track, where like we're now just

1252
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, man, I fucking hate my step mom

1253
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: and it's sucking up my life, you know, but without

1254
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: any poetry to it. Of course you can get past seventeen.

1255
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: But there's something like, but when you're sometheen, that's the

1256
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: hardest thing you've ever had to go through, right. It's

1257
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: like like as older people would obviously be like, oh no,

1258
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: likee this is this is gonna fine, You're gonna work

1259
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: this out, give it like two years, you're gonna be

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01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: a totally different person. Don't even worry about that. But

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01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: there's something so you think about, like, this is the

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01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: hardest time I've ever known, and it's so challenging, and

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01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: all I want to do is be better, and that

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01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: just that little colonel. I don't know if I'll ever

1265
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: rid of that girl. I just want to be a

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01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: little better. That's weird yet because I I used to

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01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: have like albums I could listen to, like when I

1268
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: was in my most emotionally turbulent like that were these

1269
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: kinds of songs where I was like fuck it, Broody

1270
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: Bodies by fucking Smashing Pumpkins, I will listen to it,

1271
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: or Billy Corgan is like Lovelesicide like ship, feeling that ship.

1272
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: But I also I've noticed like as a person, I'm

1273
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: kind of like, as I become an elder washed person,

1274
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble tapping into like that era of like

1275
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: the chaos, Like it's more nostalgic more than like it's

1276
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: like they're like it's still in there or something. I

1277
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: wonder if this is the last time I'll be able

1278
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: to feel this way. It seems like maybe this album

1279
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: is having that effect on people that thought they couldn't

1280
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: feel that anymore, and they could, you know, I yeah,

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01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: I think, I I bet you. I like, I used

1282
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: to listen to Lord a lot. I like pop music,

1283
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: so I think it sounds good. I'm just offering this, like,

1284
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, as a person who is uh just you know,

1285
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: being older, Like you know what I mean is like, well,

1286
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: here's the thing older music is failing. It's not like

1287
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: this music is failing. It's people who are my age

1288
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: that are failing. They're writing. I just wish lyrics for

1289
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: older people weren't all just broken poetry junk, like you

1290
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I feel like this, this kind

1291
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: of lyrics, This Olivio Rodriguez is my I like this, Rodrigo,

1292
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: I like this. You know this sounds good, but I

1293
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: wish this all of her. I only found out about

1294
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: this email. I saw your email thirty seconds before this show.

1295
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: So I just I just I just think that actually

1296
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: it's more of a failure of music people being made

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01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: by people my age, which is just like sort of

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01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: like R. E. M type lyrics, you know, just like

1299
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: broken poetry forever, like I want to hear so Chris.

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01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: I just like lyrics that are about so okay, Like

1301
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Olivia Rodrigo's out here being like fucking days

1302
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: of you. You did all this old ship, we did

1303
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: it too, you talking about so how would you write

1304
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 1: this more like direct blow nail on the head form

1305
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: of song lyric writing for your for your era, for

1306
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: your people right now, because you said where's my album?

1307
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: Like that? Well, as I was saying, I just write

1308
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: about like heart health, getting your steps in, um, you know,

1309
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: don't drink coffee too late. Yeah, falling loves out of

1310
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: the question. Who cares anyway? I got no sex drive anymore,

1311
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: So it loves out the question. That's just such a

1312
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: powerful message for a song, and it's just a little

1313
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: love is not you know, love is not as important

1314
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: as going to your therapists. I just wish there was more. Um,

1315
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of bourgeois adult pop music right

1316
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: now that's just about like I don't know, fake spirituality

1317
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: and like, you know, it's like I would say that

1318
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: the main topic of adult music now is like mindfulness

1319
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: or something whenever everyone became a Buddhist and Malibu or

1320
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: some ship. I'm actually all about this stuff, except I

1321
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: just wish there was more of it in a way,

1322
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: like more. I'm just tired of the breakup stuff. That's

1323
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: all I mean. I love. I mean, we got Taylor Swift,

1324
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: who does good stuff. You know. I'm most suspicious of

1325
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: these weasels, these white weasels, like whoever this anton Off

1326
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: and this Nigro and who are these people? And why

1327
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: are they somehow? Why are they in charge? Why is

1328
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: Nigro's name first and Rodrigo's name second on all these songs?

1329
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: Because that is important in songwriting. That means Nigro is

1330
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: the main songwriter. So why are these why are these

1331
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: weasley white men involved in all these women? I mean

1332
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: or anyway, it's not just women. There's just Weasley white

1333
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: men with like kind of like like cute haircuts running around,

1334
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: and I'm suspicious of the year old. You're like, well, yeah,

1335
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm SUSI these guys too hair because I'm doing my

1336
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: best to hang in there in this conversation. But I

1337
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: really do dig that. I actually dig what she's doing.

1338
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: I just think that I can't relate. I don't think

1339
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: I like lyrics about fucking feeless. Yeah, this conversation ever

1340
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: set up for every anyone to to disagree or anything

1341
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: like that. But I'm saying, well, we all have our perspectives.

1342
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,799
Speaker 1: Yours is like what, I what fucking more breakup songs?

1343
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, I get more literal, you know,

1344
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: because I like listening to the radio. You know, I

1345
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 1: just wish there were more songs actually about relationships, but

1346
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 1: just different kinds. There's just a lot of like relationship

1347
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: stuff about fuck that person and fuck that person and

1348
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: that person sucked me over. And I also think that's

1349
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: like sort of you know, just there's a lot of that.

1350
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: I usually I found out almost every breakup was my fault,

1351
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, not not. You know, I think everybody, like

1352
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: when they're younger, thinks the other person was totally at fault.

1353
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm also tired of the tired of that, you know,

1354
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: because that's not true. That's like when I go to

1355
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: a a and guys talk about their ex wives as

1356
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: if their ex wives like we're a pre existing thing

1357
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: that they had nothing to do with it. They're like,

1358
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: fun next war, right, right, you know, like didn't you

1359
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: ask her to marry you? You know what I mean,

1360
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: at the point you're really into that person. I totally

1361
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: feel that, especially on the line of like there's more

1362
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: to life than relationships, right, You're gonna go through so

1363
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: many other different types of things that there are actually

1364
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: songs to write about that we need, we need guidance through,

1365
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, like the Solante is A Seat at the

1366
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: Table really helped me get through all of the Trump presidency.

1367
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: I feel you, I feel you, there's there's more than

1368
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: just being in love or being sucked over. But either way,

1369
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: But I think albums are all their snapshots, right, like

1370
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: no one, you don't define your entire career off the

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: one album. So I'm sure like next thing, you know,

1372
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: in twenty years time, on this trajectory, Olivia Rodrigo will

1373
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: be talking about wellness. But that album comes out and

1374
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: it'll be like so again, they'll be like, guys, make

1375
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 1: sure you use headspace to get yourself a little relief.

1376
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: You're like yeah, and you're like, how did they do this?

1377
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: And like it's charting, y'all's completely perverted it. Um. I

1378
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: just think everybody should do a very deep investigation of

1379
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: why everybody, every pop musician over thirty y is out

1380
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: in the desert. That's what everybody out in Joshua Tree.

1381
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: What's happening? Yeah, I don't understand. They got to be

1382
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: in the woods with the deer and the bear, the

1383
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: real thing, That's what I'm talking about. I guess they

1384
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: want to be out of Joshua Tree because there's nobody

1385
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: out there so they can feel like they're like, you know,

1386
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: man the king Man. Remember when Morrison went down to

1387
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 1: Mexico and it's like that. Anyway, with that note, U.

1388
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: We'll end the show right there. Please y'all make sure

1389
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: you check out Chris's Twitch show, which is not going

1390
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: to be tonight, it would be tomorrow because he's going

1391
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: to be doing a huge publicity stunt at Disneyland on Tuesday. Um,

1392
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: but Chris, thanks so much for joining us. Man. Where

1393
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: can people find some follow you and watch you and

1394
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: all that you can? Uh? Yeah, thank you. Um, you

1395
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: do a better plug for my show than I do. Uh.

1396
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: It's it's called Colbrew Got Me Like? And it's on

1397
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: Twitch every Tuesday usually, which would be tonight, but it's

1398
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: actually tomorrow this week because I'm going to Disneyland, and um,

1399
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: it's on six thirty Pacific every Tuesday night Colbrew Got

1400
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: Me Like except for Wednesday this week. And then I'm

1401
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: at the Crofton Show on Twitter and at the Crofton

1402
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: Show on Instagram, and I write my advice column called

1403
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: The Advice King. And you can go listen to my

1404
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: first solo record, Hello It's Me on all platforms check

1405
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 1: out someone Christie and it hits like got my back

1406
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: feeling like hell, oh yeah, you want to hear me?

1407
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: You want to hear my super All my songs are

1408
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 1: about being freaking broken up with. I can't believe I'm

1409
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna be so fucking I'm finished. Please finish such a hypocrite.

1410
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: That's such a hypocrite. All my songs are about being

1411
01:14:55,680 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: broken up. Only thing, though, I will say, is that

1412
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: I mostly blame myself. I think that's the that's the

1413
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: Twitter guy involved in the writings of these songs, and

1414
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: that's my guarantee. And you just kill me. There there's

1415
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: only one white guy the songs. I'm done that, I'm done,

1416
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm done great, Chris, Is there a Twitter or a

1417
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: social media and post something you like that you want

1418
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: to shout out? Funk? I always forget this part. Oh man,

1419
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 1: where it is? I love? I said, God, damn it

1420
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: like the oldest man in the world. Just in general,

1421
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I like Twitter. Oh great, I

1422
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: love it. In general. It's really good. John Brown endorsement

1423
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: for you, Chris, Thank you so much, Joel, thank you

1424
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: for helping me host today. Where can people find you?

1425
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: Follow you, just listen to you, read your takes, your

1426
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: musings like that wonderful perspective into the album. Uh sorry,

1427
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: that went on for five minutes. Definitely got a test

1428
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: from the editor so long. That's what I'm gonna come

1429
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: here every time. We just do a brand about something

1430
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm passionate about. Last this is who Rode Gouh. You

1431
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,759
Speaker 1: can find me all over the internet at Due Monique.

1432
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: It's j O E l l E m O n

1433
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: I q u E. One of the tweets I've really

1434
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: been digging. Film updates. Media posted four count them, four

1435
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: separate photos of Tako L t T, Tessa Thompson, and Ortiz.

1436
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: Oh Frick, I can't remember her first name. Y'all if

1437
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, you know making out? Okay, it's great. Tyka

1438
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: is shooting the next door. Tessa is obviously in it

1439
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: because she's great. I think Tiger and Ortiz are kind

1440
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: of connected romantically. Anyway. They're all making out to go,

1441
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: oh my god, Anna, bless you, Rita Aura, Rita Aura,

1442
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: is there being a hot pop star? I loved it,

1443
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: and then at Michelle tweeted Tessa's phone right out the

1444
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: demons calls from Bree Larson. This is the queer polyamial

1445
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: content I am looking for. I tried to break it

1446
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: all down what all of that means. But it's beautiful,

1447
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: it is full. It's a gift from the pride gods. Okay,

1448
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: this is what the games are looking for, this kind

1449
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: of content right here, it's beautiful. Shout out to Rito

1450
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: or wow, surprisingly I know what that is. Yes, I've

1451
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: seen that picture of three way kiss between that old

1452
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: director and the beautiful handsome man and the gorgeous women.

1453
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: The haircut probably yeah, I remember the longest time I

1454
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: was like, man, like, what's Rita Oregon to talk about

1455
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: being black? And like, oh, she's Albania. Okay, I feel

1456
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: like we were all there. What's going on with Rita?

1457
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: Or is she light skinner? Yeah? Hey, but either way,

1458
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 1: shout out to your Rita. Would love to see it.

1459
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: Let's see some weet said. I like a couple of

1460
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: tweets I like. The first one is from Jessica Ellis

1461
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: at Baddest Man with Jamma. She tweeted, a good way

1462
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: to tell elder millennials from younger ones is to shriek sing,

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Speaker 1: just come from a can and then see what happens. Um.

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Speaker 1: The next one from Dana Donnelly or yes at Dana

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Speaker 1: d O n l Y. Dana Donnalley tweeted very on

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Speaker 1: par with the discussion we just had when I was

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Speaker 1: twenty three. I thought my X was a diabolical supervillain

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Speaker 1: who ruined my life in a cold calculated way. But

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Speaker 1: now I'm twenty six and I realized he was actually

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Speaker 1: just a guy of average intelligence who simply didn't really

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Speaker 1: give a shit about me. Yeah, when last one at

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Speaker 1: Tony Underscore for our seven tweeted, I wasn't productive at

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Speaker 1: all during the pandemic, but it was actually my first pandemic,

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Speaker 1: so I think that's fine. Yeah, I think that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't worry about that. Okay, don't get done to

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Speaker 1: yourself too much. You can find me at Miles of

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Speaker 1: Gray on Twitter and Instagram. Also check out the other

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Speaker 1: show for Fiance also on Twitch, Twitch dot tv slash

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Speaker 1: for twenty Day Fiance and will be tonight unless I

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Speaker 1: also go to Disneyland, but check that out at pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at

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Speaker 1: the episodes and our footnotes along with the song that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna ride out on, and that track is going

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Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a remix, a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a mix of like the Temptations, but if

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Speaker 1: they were in Kingston and uh, you know, maybe uh

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Speaker 1: they were doing a little rock steady vibe. This is

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Speaker 1: called My Girl, the Temptations song, but it's a remix

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Speaker 1: by Nick Bike. It's Nick Bike's rock steady mix. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it's just amazing how malleable Temptations are with a

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Speaker 1: little bit of reggae backing. So check this track out

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Speaker 1: of being the Foot and notes um and yeah, Dailey's

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Speaker 1: you get the podcast. You know, just come check this

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Speaker 1: out and we'll see you later on today for the

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Speaker 1: trending episode. Until then, be some blessings. We'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Fight hey, thank you,