WEBVTT - Vanessa Evigan Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to talk about last night?

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<v Speaker 2>Roynert?

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<v Speaker 3>Should you talk about last night?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want to talk about last Do you want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about what happened? But I saw Will in

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<v Speaker 4>the wild last night. He went out to an event

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<v Speaker 4>and it wasn't a Podweights World event. It wasn't business related.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess it was kind of business y,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was just for a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So George Wong directed a movie called Weekend in Taipei,

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<v Speaker 4>and George is, you know, one of Will's oldest friends.

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<v Speaker 4>And I haven't hadn't actually seen him, I think for

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<v Speaker 4>like nine or ten years really, yeah, but he had

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<v Speaker 4>recently reached out for me and Alex to help him

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<v Speaker 4>out acting in a short film that he's making. And

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<v Speaker 4>you couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't do it. I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>And then so we just reconnected and we've been talking

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<v Speaker 4>and then he said, oh, I directed this big movie

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<v Speaker 4>and Luke Proissant uh produced it with him and wrote

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<v Speaker 4>it with him and uh. So he had the premiere

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<v Speaker 4>last night and he invited me and Will and I

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<v Speaker 4>was it was so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you guys you were going to see each other there.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like you spotted him in the wild randomly.

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<v Speaker 4>No, okay, it was it was bizarre. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>thought about it when I got home. It was like,

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<v Speaker 4>that was so nice to like hang out with Will

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<v Speaker 4>and talk and like not be podcasting right or doing

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<v Speaker 4>the show or a convention. It was like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just it was fun.

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<v Speaker 5>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>But the movie is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing that was so fun was our business

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<v Speaker 5>is in such a ridiculous kind of state of flux.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't know what it is anymore. We don't know

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<v Speaker 5>what's happening in the industry at all. And then there's

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<v Speaker 5>these little nuggets of like what it used to be

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<v Speaker 5>like going to a premiere, you know, even though it

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<v Speaker 5>was kind of a smaller premiere, there was still a

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<v Speaker 5>little red carpet and I sat there and I watched

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<v Speaker 5>a whole but I didn't walk it, of course, But

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<v Speaker 5>I sat there and I watched a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 5>like celebrities that I've seen before. And there's all these

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<v Speaker 5>cool like ferraris set up outside because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of car chases in the thing. And then you go

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<v Speaker 5>to this little reception afterwards with it, and it was

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<v Speaker 5>just like a taste of what it used to be

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<v Speaker 5>in La you know, and a lot of it is

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<v Speaker 5>kind of ridiculous, but it was fun. There was a

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<v Speaker 5>pageantry to it that I think I got a little

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<v Speaker 5>taste of last Night and you get to see a

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<v Speaker 5>great film at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fun night and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's coming out in theaters, which I'm really excited about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Pings feel like they're coming out in theaters, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so happy about, even if it's limited release.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, people are missing, but we're amazed at how fast

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<v Speaker 5>like they come out in theaters and then a week

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<v Speaker 5>later you can I know exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so fast.

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<v Speaker 4>But isn't that part of the problem, like that you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna Yeah, things should like be forced to

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<v Speaker 4>stay in theaters and then it should be like, well.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be you'd have to wait six to eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Months for a movie to come out on VHS, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and remember that.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like you'd walk into Blockbuster or something and

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<v Speaker 5>be like, oh, that's right, whatever just.

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<v Speaker 3>Came out on DVD.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the coolest.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's really important for the cultural like the zeitgeys,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean that's that's the problem with streamers.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like even when they have good, big movies, they

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just come and go. You know, showers get

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of cultural time because like everybody's watching them

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<v Speaker 4>for weeks or binging them that week. But like movies,

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<v Speaker 4>it's I've been really sad to see things just pop

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<v Speaker 4>up on Netflix that that are good and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>big movies with big stars, and then you try and

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<v Speaker 4>talk to other people about them and it's like it's

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<v Speaker 4>not on their algorithm, so they never popped up, and

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<v Speaker 4>then yeah, it's it's it's it's a bummer. I missed

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<v Speaker 4>the culture of like everybody's watching the same movie that

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<v Speaker 4>summer or that winter or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, let's go see Joker two together, Yeah, I heard.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm one of the tractors.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't like the first ones, so I definitely had

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<v Speaker 4>no interest in the second.

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<v Speaker 3>Did anyone see Wild Robot? You did sart opening day?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to see it in theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw them you can stream it for the same

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<v Speaker 2>price we could go see it in theater, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, I want to see it in the theater.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's one of.

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<v Speaker 4>The best books too, to read to your kids by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, Oh my god, Like there's there's two or

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<v Speaker 4>three of them, but the first one, yeah, it had

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<v Speaker 4>been recommended in Indian and I just spent like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>two weeks reading it every night, and it was it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so touching and fun. And then the movie I

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't believe that it visually it was just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like animation is so cool these days. Like I love

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<v Speaker 4>that we're finally past the point of like making everything

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<v Speaker 4>look real, and now we're making things like look stylized,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like Mitchell's Versus Machines, like these like interpretive

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<v Speaker 4>like takes with CGI, you know, so it's not just

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<v Speaker 4>like make it look real anymore three dimensional. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>give it some style, give it its own look and feel.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I was just gonna say, speaking of animation, our

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<v Speaker 2>very own. Will Fredell is starring in a Lego Marvel

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<v Speaker 2>Avengers movie Mission Demolition.

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<v Speaker 3>He plays Dennis. It's out right now. I've already seen

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<v Speaker 3>it three times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's on Disney Plus my kids love it. Will

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<v Speaker 2>sent me a text and was like, hey, FYI, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a movie coming out and I think the kids

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna like it. And I was like, what how

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<v Speaker 2>come I know nothing about this? When did you do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you keeping secrets from us? And so the

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<v Speaker 2>next day was a Saturday. We came out on a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Rightday was a Friday night. Okay, so Friday night, so

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night we we was literally the day it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, do you want to see Uncle Will in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie? And Ather was like, yeah, which one's Uncle Will?

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's a whole opening with all the Avengers

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<v Speaker 2>and Will isn't one of the Avengers. He plays Dennis,

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<v Speaker 2>and so literally every character is that Uncle Will.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that Uncle Will. I was like, no, no other,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll let you know when we get to him. Is

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<v Speaker 3>that Uncle Will is uncle Will? Ironman is that Uncle Will.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, when we see Uncle Will, I'll let

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<v Speaker 3>you know no all time. Finally I was like fast

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<v Speaker 3>warning to uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>Is God yet No.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so fun, It's so cute. Highly highly recommend

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<v Speaker 3>you watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cool, It was cool. We had a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of fun doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>The Lego world is you know, a perfect combination with

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<v Speaker 5>something like Marvel two.

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<v Speaker 1>It just works on all the levels. So Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a blast.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't go wrong with with wilfred Ell and Kevin Smith,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the two of us together, so ye's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so fun. Welcome to pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishal,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Right or Strong, and I'm Will Ferdell.

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<v Speaker 2>When a sixth grader not only changes schools, but moves

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<v Speaker 2>towns all together, it's not an easy process, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>you're just about to start filming a sitcom that gives

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<v Speaker 2>you extended leaves of absence for weeks at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I did transfer to ay Wright Middle School

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<v Speaker 2>in Calabasas, California in nineteen ninety three, the front office

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<v Speaker 2>thought it would be a good idea to pair me

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<v Speaker 2>with a buddy and a signed friend who coincidentally was

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<v Speaker 2>also a child actor. And thus began the friendship of

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle Fischle and Vanessa Evigan, one that would extend to

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<v Speaker 2>high school and then into adulthood and motherhood and now.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever podcast hood is.

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<v Speaker 2>We spend our summers either in her bed bath and

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<v Speaker 2>beyond vanilla scented Ford Explorer or my bed bath and

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<v Speaker 2>beyond vanilla scented Toyota four Runner blasting sublime and gossiping

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<v Speaker 2>about boys.

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<v Speaker 3>We liked on the way to Malibu Beach. And so

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<v Speaker 3>when she in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Moment more California than.

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<v Speaker 3>Did really was, it was the best.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when she was cast on Boy Meets World

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<v Speaker 2>during season fives, if you Can't Be with the One

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<v Speaker 2>you love as the recently rhinoplastid Kimberly Susman, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been more excited. She had just come off starring

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<v Speaker 2>on her own show UPN's Social Study and also six

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<v Speaker 2>episodes of Against the Grain on NBC with a young

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Affleck, and would later appear on You Wish Norm

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<v Speaker 2>How I Met Your Mother, and as Britney Hodges on

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<v Speaker 2>over two dozen episodes of The Young and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Restless, and they probably shot all of those on like

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<v Speaker 3>one day.

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<v Speaker 2>Coincidentally, Boy Meets World wasn't Vanessa's first Michael Jacob sett.

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<v Speaker 2>Her debut was as a background eight year old on

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<v Speaker 2>My Two Dads, a show her father, Greg Evigan, starred

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<v Speaker 2>in opposite Paul Riser. And today we have forced her

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<v Speaker 2>to come to talk to us minus the Sublime and

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<v Speaker 2>Vanilla car smell about that one time in nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>she was on the Boy Meets World episode that dealt

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<v Speaker 2>with teenage drinking. Welcome to the podcast, Vanessa Evigan.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yes, Oh my gosh, I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 6>to use a computer.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, it's so good to see you. Good to see

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<v Speaker 3>you too, Oh my goodness, here, thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just explaining to the guy and the whole

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<v Speaker 2>world about how you and I met that you were

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<v Speaker 2>my assigned buddy.

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<v Speaker 5>Buddy assigning friends to Danielle or.

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<v Speaker 4>Chance it assigned us.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 2>That you were my assigned buddy at a e Wright

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<v Speaker 2>when I first started there in sixth grade.

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<v Speaker 3>The school was like, yes, the school was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, we are going to put you in touch with

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<v Speaker 2>this very sweet, fun, wonderful girl.

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<v Speaker 3>We think you guys will really hit it off, and

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<v Speaker 3>obv we did.

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<v Speaker 2>But literally they were like, you can't come in here

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<v Speaker 2>without any friends. And you were my sweet friend who

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<v Speaker 2>like showed me around the school and showed me where

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<v Speaker 2>to eat lunch, and and that's literally how we met.

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<v Speaker 6>At the beginning of our amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Friendship, I know, our lifelong friendship. So that reminds me.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if you don't remember being my assigned buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you don't also remember what I was wearing on

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<v Speaker 2>that first day of school, or do you remember the

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<v Speaker 2>story about what I was wearing on the first day story?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, maybe we just actually remembered.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very funny story. I know, Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so cringe, but okay. So in Orange County, where

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up before I moved to Calabasas, the first

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<v Speaker 2>day of school, at least all through elementary school grades

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<v Speaker 2>one through five the only thing I had been to.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone got very dressed up for the first day of school,

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<v Speaker 2>like your first day of.

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<v Speaker 3>School outfit was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And my best friend Jessica from elementary school, we used

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<v Speaker 2>to plan our outfits all summer long, what are we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna wear, and like, at least the first day, if

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<v Speaker 2>not the whole first week, we would wear kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fancier clothes then you end up wearing for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the school year. So on the first day of

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<v Speaker 2>sixth grade to eighty Wright, I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm new to this school. I wore.

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<v Speaker 2>I wore like one beast blacken white, little floral jumper,

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<v Speaker 2>like like a pant pant suit.

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<v Speaker 3>Jumper those one beast.

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<v Speaker 4>Like like a blossom style.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also wore like pantyhose and ballet flats, and

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<v Speaker 2>I my mom My mom swears she's like, I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to talk you out of it, and I do remember

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<v Speaker 2>her saying like, I don't think they're gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't think it's gonna I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're gonna want to be wearing this today.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, no, no, I was very sure

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I wanted to wear. And I got

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<v Speaker 2>there and it was like, you know, nineteen ninety three,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone had on beat her jeans, converse beaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Old T shirts, flannels.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely nothing remotely like what I was wearing.

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<v Speaker 3>And all day I was like, this is so uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>And my favorite memory, aside from meeting Vanessa that day,

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<v Speaker 2>is that as I was walking alone down a hallway,

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<v Speaker 2>a walks toward me, making this face at me the

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<v Speaker 2>whole way and looks me up and down, and as

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<v Speaker 2>he passes me, goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going to a funeral?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>My god, you had the best style.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't even imagine anyone thinking that we were going

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<v Speaker 6>to a funeral.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, No, he really and I was like, that

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<v Speaker 3>is exactly what it was. I was like, I should

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<v Speaker 3>just run with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediately after school, I have to go write your funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>right Grandma, Grandma, Grandma.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta go making me wear this right now. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>my mom picked me up from school and she was like,

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<v Speaker 3>how would your day? And I was like, we are

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<v Speaker 3>going shopping now, and the immediately I.

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<v Speaker 2>Bought all all new clothes store exactly and yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Please tell me. Jan Fisher has a photo of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope so.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we have somewhere, but it's it's pretty,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty mortifying.

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<v Speaker 3>I think about it about once a month. Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 2>We just watched If You Can't Be with the One

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<v Speaker 2>You Love and we attended Kimberly Susman's nose Job party.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yes, how do I You look?

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<v Speaker 3>Fantastic?

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts on the episode?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>It is armuably maybe the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Very special episode we had had, at least up to

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<v Speaker 2>that point on the show. What did you think about

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<v Speaker 2>it watching it today? I?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I watched it actually my son. I let my

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<v Speaker 6>son wanted to watch it, and it was such a

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<v Speaker 6>big deal. Obviously, because Ben, you know, he takes his

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<v Speaker 6>first drink. I think, so that was a big, big

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<v Speaker 6>deal and.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is a mom.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>happen one day to me. I'm gonna have to like

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<v Speaker 6>be the mom that So that's how I thought of

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<v Speaker 6>it now. And I also was like, wow, you know, nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Pat of brawl.

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<v Speaker 6>What was happening with but like everything and I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>remembering what an interesting haircut. I was looking back at

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<v Speaker 6>it going and then I thought, gosh, that was such

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<v Speaker 6>a great show. I loved it. I forgot how awesome

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<v Speaker 6>it was and how I mean it was funny, and

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<v Speaker 6>then there was those moments where and everyone was so

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<v Speaker 6>good in it. It wasn't like it just.

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<v Speaker 5>The show in general or that specific episode episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Comedy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone, it's a heavy episode.

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<v Speaker 6>It's heavy, heavy for the time, you know, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>like really and it was wild. I kept trying to

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<v Speaker 6>figure out, like, is my TV like the even like

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<v Speaker 6>just just the quality of the show. Right, Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to get the call. I'm like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 6>it's just perfect the way it is. And then I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>this was those were the good days. They really were

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<v Speaker 6>the good old.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we do talk about how weird it is to

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<v Speaker 2>not have everything in like four K, Like we're like, oh, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't read.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't read. Everything's all blurry.

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<v Speaker 5>You're trying to pause it to read stuff in the background,

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<v Speaker 5>and it just never can never kind of get it

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<v Speaker 5>exactly where you want it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but you all look exactly the same, literally, like

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not kidding, I'm not I'm serious. It's so wid

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<v Speaker 6>especially you Danielle, Like wow, I mean, thank you, you

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<v Speaker 6>know you guys, just uh yeah, it was so fun.

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<v Speaker 6>That was a really really really like just not only

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that we were best friends. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 6>got to do that show together. I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 6>my gosh, this couldn't be like more special.

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<v Speaker 5>So you were you were friends then continuously from sixth

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<v Speaker 5>grade up through this. So did you tell Danielle like

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<v Speaker 5>I have an audition for Boy Meets World or did

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<v Speaker 5>Danielle did you go to the producers and they were like,

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<v Speaker 5>that's she's like my closest friend, You've got to bring

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<v Speaker 5>her on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how did that work?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I remember, because well Michael Jake. You know, my

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<v Speaker 6>dad was on My Two Dads exactly. I had known

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<v Speaker 6>Michael because I was an extra on My Two Dads

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<v Speaker 6>and I was like seven, and you know, I had

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<v Speaker 6>audition and I was like, oh, this is so great,

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<v Speaker 6>this would be so fun, but it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>probably not gonna happen. And then I just remember them

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<v Speaker 6>sending everyone out, sending everything at home and telling me

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<v Speaker 6>to stay and I was like, oh cool, I think

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<v Speaker 6>that this was gonna happen. And then I remember I think,

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<v Speaker 6>I remember messaging you saying I think I'm I think

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to do an episode of the show. And

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<v Speaker 6>it was just awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you you paged she paged me. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>paged her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, remember the I mean we used to

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<v Speaker 6>have the goal. You got the updated pagers to where

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<v Speaker 6>you could like code. Lots of words came in on those. Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>it was just like a phone number anymore. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 6>we three two.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I just remember I it's not my

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<v Speaker 2>number anymore, but my cell phone number was ended with

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<v Speaker 2>eight zero zero eight, which in page your code was boob.

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<v Speaker 6>I actually remember, because you have to memorized numbers back then. Like,

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<v Speaker 6>do you remember cell phone that? Like, we actually had

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<v Speaker 6>cell phones that had the curly wires?

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<v Speaker 4>Are runners?

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<v Speaker 3>We don't remember those two? Oh yeah we Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>had the Ford Explorer. I had a for Runner.

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<v Speaker 6>Well that was after I crashed the fore Runner.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, right, tell us.

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<v Speaker 4>About that childhood I've ever heard from our TV shows.

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<v Speaker 6>The best part of it all though, my parents were

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<v Speaker 6>out buying me a car with my money because I

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<v Speaker 6>was acting thankfully and I'm thinking I'm getting a new car.

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<v Speaker 6>They're like, well, you should think yourself and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Buying me a car. No, you're buying you a car.

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<v Speaker 6>Literally, thirteen days after I got my license, I was

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<v Speaker 6>driving behind my boyfriend at the time. Uh, and I

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<v Speaker 6>just I don't know what happened, but I swear the

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<v Speaker 6>car just flipped itself into neutral on the highway, on

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<v Speaker 6>the freeway and on the one oh one, and I

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<v Speaker 6>spun out and hit the center divider head on, and

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<v Speaker 6>thankfully I was okay. And I swear you were supposed

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<v Speaker 6>to be with me, or someone was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 6>next to me in the car, because I just me, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it was either you or I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know who else.

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<v Speaker 4>It would would have been, And Daniel, didn't you have

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<v Speaker 4>like the exact same thing happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I also crashed my toy A fore Runner on.

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<v Speaker 5>Should not be driving inherent issue with the Toyota fore Runner.

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<v Speaker 6>They're bad, dangerous cars.

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<v Speaker 2>My car hydroplaned and her car flipped into neutral. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I also hit the center divider, completely spun out

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<v Speaker 2>and total MYR might I recommend a people?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I just kept going down after that when my

0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.440
<v Speaker 6>parents were like, well, you totaled your car, so we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna get you an old uh used Ford explorer that

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<v Speaker 6>I mean that thing. I don't know, that thing where

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<v Speaker 6>they say fixed or repair daily found.

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<v Speaker 1>Exploder.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was it like seeing yourself that age on screen?

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<v Speaker 2>Was this the first time you had watched the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>like since it had aired that many years ago?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, because I watched it briefly for a second. My

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<v Speaker 6>son was like, I really want to watch it, and

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<v Speaker 6>and I was like, okay, trying to remember if it

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<v Speaker 6>was like a pro appropriate right. You know, he's listening

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<v Speaker 6>to this isn't in a jelly roll right now, so

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<v Speaker 6>I think we're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is he?

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<v Speaker 6>Well? He's seven twenty seven. We argue like a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, it's it's it's he's my he's my

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<v Speaker 6>husband made over. But but no, him and my daughter

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<v Speaker 6>they both wanted to watch it. But my son ended

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<v Speaker 6>up seeing, uh seeing it, or at least just just

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of it, and he was like, why

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<v Speaker 6>what what is that on your nose? And I was

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<v Speaker 6>like oh, and I was trying to explain that to him.

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<v Speaker 6>Then he was like, you had your nose done? And

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like not really, no, no, no, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 6>was done. People think I did, especially after that. No,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why people thought it was real, but no, wait,

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<v Speaker 6>what were it was the main question?

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<v Speaker 3>What did you think seeing young Vanessa on screen?

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<v Speaker 6>I thought she was so cute. Yeah, oh she was

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<v Speaker 6>a cutie. Definitely not my best acting. I felt like

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, WHOA, Maybe got to get into some

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<v Speaker 6>acting class after that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you were not much. You were not given much

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<v Speaker 3>with what you had.

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<v Speaker 6>It was fun, it was sweet, and I actually remember

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<v Speaker 6>it all so well going back to that, like it

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<v Speaker 6>was it was really fun and cute, you know. I

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<v Speaker 6>just those were just such fun times. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>it was just drawing.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember the discussion about the whole nose job thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>was it ever talked about like why this character was

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<v Speaker 4>having this party or like was we were trying to

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<v Speaker 4>figure out, like what was the point of it, because

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<v Speaker 4>it's like they don't really make a joke. We don't

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<v Speaker 4>really make a joke out of it. No, but then

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<v Speaker 4>you're wearing this thing on your face the whole time.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, I guess I don't remember. I vaguely remember

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:43.560
<v Speaker 6>it just being like me being like a snotty, snooty

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<v Speaker 6>kind of rich, mean girl kind of thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know why classify that as a person who would haven't read.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what We're trying to have a party for it, right, right,

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I don't really remember why.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we thought we had the same conversation.

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 2>We were like, was this was this a thing people

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<v Speaker 2>were doing all the time back then? Like oh, nose

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<v Speaker 2>job parties, I know, and teenage nose job parties.

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<v Speaker 4>We must have had a conversation about It's some note session.

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<v Speaker 4>It must have come up, but I don't remember it

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<v Speaker 4>at all. I mean, all I remember is that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was the episode about drinking, but it's it's a

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<v Speaker 4>bizarre like it's element.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was a little because the show is definitely

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<v Speaker 6>about the I mean, the drinking is clearly the importance

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<v Speaker 6>of the show, right, and then for whatever reason, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>spruce it up with me with a Fonda with a

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<v Speaker 6>nose jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really really do you what do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>about the week? Like, do you remember the table read?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you there for the table read? Do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>the run throughs? What do you remember most about the week?

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<v Speaker 6>I do remember. I remember being really nervous. I think

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<v Speaker 6>just because I had a crush.

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<v Speaker 3>I think on Matt Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt Lawrence, and.

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<v Speaker 6>Then I answer, what's that? Everybody did? Probably I actually

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<v Speaker 6>I don't remember. I was like cruising through the the

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<v Speaker 6>podcast some of the podcasts, and I saw the one

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<v Speaker 6>he was on, and I actually was like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 6>he looked so familiar, and then I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 6>my gosh. And then he was joking or he was

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<v Speaker 6>saying something about in sync was there, and they thought

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<v Speaker 6>he was mean, but it was because he had a

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<v Speaker 6>crusher on you. And I was like, we all had

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<v Speaker 6>crushes on everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the way it was as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, clearly, and so I just but I was nervous,

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<v Speaker 6>I think, because like you were my friend and I

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to make sure I did a good job. And

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<v Speaker 6>it was just, you know, when it's that close to home,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think that I think I was friends with

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<v Speaker 6>them then then or after, I don't remember, And so

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<v Speaker 6>it was one of those like you just know people,

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<v Speaker 6>and yeah, you want to make sure you do good job.

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<v Speaker 6>And obviously Michael was you know, I'd work with my

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<v Speaker 6>dad so much, and I was like, I got to

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<v Speaker 6>make sure I do, you know, leave a good impress

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<v Speaker 6>And I feel like I did a couple of his

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<v Speaker 6>shows though after that or maybe before it.

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<v Speaker 2>So good, you did leave a good impression, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>So was Michael like a part of your family life?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you remember? What years was my two dads

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<v Speaker 2>on And was Michael still like a prominent figure in

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<v Speaker 2>your family life at the time that you were on Boy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he really was. He was just I just, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>my memories of him were just I mean, oh, my

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<v Speaker 6>dad always like talked so highly of him, and I

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<v Speaker 6>always thought he's really funny and serious though like he

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't scare me, but he was like he's coming

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<v Speaker 6>in to make changes. They're gonna change, you know, things

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<v Speaker 6>are like yeah, you know, And I think I was

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<v Speaker 6>maybe a little I had known that that he you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he's really smart, he's really talented, but he's also like quick,

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<v Speaker 6>comes in, you know, makes changes, leaves, wants him to

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<v Speaker 6>be done and wants it to be right. And I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, okay, I kind of just make sure you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I hear toes. Yeah, I don't zone off to my

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<v Speaker 6>add world where I'm like squirrel, what did he say? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it was, and I think I was at the table reading.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty sure I was. Yeah, yeah, because I was.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I was really nervous, like turning red on

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<v Speaker 6>my chest and like sweating and probably like I like

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<v Speaker 6>real blondes, do you know.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's a good way to describe Michael.

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<v Speaker 5>He was very intense, but he's also arguably the funniest

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<v Speaker 5>person I've ever met in my life. Yes, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>he's just very quick witted with that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeahah, you don't have like that many hit shows

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<v Speaker 6>back to back to back and.

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<v Speaker 5>Are without knowing exactly. Yeah, I mean, aside from being

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<v Speaker 5>a brilliant sitcom writer, which he is, brilliant, just even

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<v Speaker 5>even the way he would tell just a basic joke.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just he had the structure down.

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<v Speaker 6>He was just fun totally. And wasn't he pretty dry too?

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 6>Like I feel like was he dry or I don't?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I mean it depended it dependent on how

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<v Speaker 5>he wanted to tell the joke. He could switch between

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<v Speaker 5>dry to you know, kind of bigger too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was, yeah, he was. He was just funny.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he really was.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it that gave you the acting bug as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid? Was it growing up on sets with your dad?

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<v Speaker 6>It was? And it was actually it's like, my biggest

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 6>memory of it all is there was an episode on

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<v Speaker 6>my two Dads called I don't remember the name of it,

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<v Speaker 6>but where Paul Reiser was a leprechaun. And yeah, literally

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<v Speaker 6>like he's he's a leprechaun and all these kids are

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<v Speaker 6>coming to see him, and my dad, I guess, asked Michael, like, hey,

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 6>my kids, you want you need extras? And he's like, yeah,

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 6>I need a bunch of extras. You know, would your

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 6>kids be up for it? And I'm I had to

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<v Speaker 6>have been six, five, seven, I don't know, and my

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 6>brother and I did it and my dad will know.

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<v Speaker 6>He tells the story today to this day. He said

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<v Speaker 6>Michael had to him up to him and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>can you tell Vanessa? Or maybe it was the camera man,

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<v Speaker 6>can you get to stop staring into the camera like

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<v Speaker 6>and and But from that moment on, I knew I

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 6>wanted to be an actress, I guess. And my dad

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 6>kept saying no, no, no, and then fine, and then

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 6>he would say go get into a play. And then

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 6>I got into a play, and then he's like you know,

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<v Speaker 6>and then finally I think when I was about eleven,

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.199
<v Speaker 6>they were like, okay, well we'll let you do it.

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 6>And then that's when I got my first acting job,

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<v Speaker 6>and and then my first series regular, which was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us about that.

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>What was what?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you remember about your first audition, your first

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 2>book job?

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<v Speaker 3>What was it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, the first one was called Jack's Place, but

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<v Speaker 6>my the big first one for me was against It

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 6>was called Against the Grain. He was with Ben Affleck

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 6>and he was my brother, and Robin Lively and John Terry,

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 6>Donna Bullock. Like. It was a great a great cast,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, and it was a football show. It was

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<v Speaker 6>I was honestly like, it was a critically acclaimed NBC

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 6>show that I mean didn't happen after the first season,

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<v Speaker 6>which was a bummer because it was so was like

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 6>a football show and it was so good. But you know,

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 6>and then Seventh Heaven came out and it was basically

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 6>like they just did something right that we didn't do,

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<v Speaker 6>I guess, but yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. That

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<v Speaker 6>was my first like real memory and then you know,

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 6>it was lucky to work a bit. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>still do occasionally when I'm I think kids right now

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<v Speaker 6>are my focus? How to do more than one thing

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 6>at one time?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me a little bit about social studies too. I

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 2>remember you doing social studies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's right. That that was a show right back.

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<v Speaker 6>To back Tuesdays. You that was that was said, That

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 6>was upn It was great. My biggest memory of that

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<v Speaker 6>was Film next Door to Milisha and like Brandy, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know, there was like all these fun shows and

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 6>Sabrina and that was fun. That was actually the days

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<v Speaker 6>the that I did your yes because the hair it

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<v Speaker 6>was like funny. I really had fun with that show.

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<v Speaker 6>That was like a height like a I wasn't high school.

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<v Speaker 6>We were in you know, like junior high sixteen, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>junior high high school sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Guess it was high school. And it was just really fun.

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<v Speaker 6>It was it was wild because we we we got that.

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<v Speaker 6>We did that. I did the pilot of it, and

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<v Speaker 6>then they got this big meeting together after the pilot,

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 6>and then we got picked up and they started recasting

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:49.959
<v Speaker 6>the whole show, and I was like, oh my gosh,

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 6>oh no, and they faintly kept me, but they recasted

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<v Speaker 6>I guess older they went with the people. I guess

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<v Speaker 6>that the original I don't even remember, but it was

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<v Speaker 6>like really young. I looked way older than everyone. I

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<v Speaker 6>guess we were all the same age though, must have

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 6>been those paths they kept patting me with. They continue

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<v Speaker 6>to do it in every show I was ever in,

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<v Speaker 6>Like in bra.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I mean, yes, I got it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I watched the It's World. I was like, okay,

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 6>I mean that was what real fake? But you know continued.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember was that something you wanted? Was it

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<v Speaker 2>something like you were on? Were you self conscious in

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<v Speaker 2>asking for.

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<v Speaker 6>Them or was it I think I might have been

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<v Speaker 6>because like at ay right, there was a few episodes

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 6>of you know, not episodes literally into situations where like

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 6>I had the bra and then the girls would like

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<v Speaker 6>show their I mean, it was ridiculous, you know. I

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 6>don't know if you remember that, but like no, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>I I think I was so self conscious of that.

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 6>I was pretty bullied. Actually, I was so thankful when

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 6>I met you because I feel like I could breathe again,

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 6>Like I had a friend, you know, just wasn't mean

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 6>and pushing me into park cars and ripping my brow

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<v Speaker 6>off so literally. And I'm not exaggering when I say that,

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 6>So I might have that might have been. Why But

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<v Speaker 6>as I got older and did you know shows when

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 6>I was supposed to be like my twenties, they were

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 6>then telling me I hated to you know, add more,

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<v Speaker 6>which I was totally fine with then, but must have been,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, right like now I could care less. I'm like,

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, they're fine. Now, they're better than they were then. Yeah,

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 6>lucky with the kids. But yeah, I don't know. I

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 6>think it must have been must have been maybe or

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 6>that maybe it was like the cool snotty girls supposed

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 6>to have big boots.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no ideas, so funny, I know I have

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>memories of that being a thing too, But in the reverse.

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I remember I worked on something where someone was supposed

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 2>to be a teenager was a teenager and they felt

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>like her chest was too big, and so they bound

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 2>her with an ace bandage in order to look smaller.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 2>And so I do remember that being like a topic

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>of conversation, and I was just wondering, like, in your case,

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>you really noticed it on boy Meet's World. I did

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 2>not notice it. I can I just I did not

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>notice in any way. It didn't look fake to me.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 6>I didn't.

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't pay any attention to it, but you obviously

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>noticed it. And so I was wondering, is that something

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>that you came with an insecurity and were like, listen,

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>let's give me a little quote unquote help in this area,

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>or if it was just something discussed. Maybe it was

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 2>a combination of it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. I mean I was always like, yeah,

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 6>I give me more, the more, the better, you know,

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 6>But I don't feel that way now. But but yeah,

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 6>that was uh yeah, it's just wild how how like

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 6>things little things had happened in school can really just

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 6>like follow through with you for so long. Yeah, possibly

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 6>forever unless you deal with it. But luckily I dealt

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 6>with it, and now I just think it's funny right

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 6>now you can joke about it. Oh yeah, because I

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 6>could like probably remember the bra too. I mean.

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 4>It was thick.

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean I want to go back.

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 4>I want to go back to your dad for a second,

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 4>just because I'm so curious, like, and I've been asking

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 4>other people this question lately, which is because my son

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 4>is very much like a performer and he's like lovely

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 4>acting and whatnot, and I'm like, my wife and I

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 4>are both actors, and I just don't know how to

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 4>like help him or talk to him. Did your dad

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 4>ever like talk to you about like did he teach

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 4>you how to act? Did he give you notes? Did

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 4>he how did how did that relationship work? Or did

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 4>he just say let other teachers and directors take care

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:38.479
<v Speaker 4>of this.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a really good question, you know. First of all,

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 6>I almost want to say congrats, And I'm sorry about

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 6>like that, because I always my husband and I always

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 6>say like we just really hope they don't want to

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 6>get into it and we know the journey and like

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 6>how I mean, for a show to go as long

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 6>as yours went unheard of, you know, and for it

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 6>to be that well known it's it's and I think

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 6>that people really think, like I have moms all the time, like, oh,

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 6>do you think you can help me get my kids

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 6>into acting? Can you get you think we can get

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 6>them an agent? And I'm like, I don't even know

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 6>where to begin now, but I know that my dad

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 6>clearly did not want me to be in the business

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 6>until I begged him to the point where he was

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 6>like fine, And I I remember vaguely kind of, I think,

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 6>meeting with a few agents, and then I ended up

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 6>falling into like I think I was with Iris Burton first. Wow,

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 6>remember that name, but.

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 4>She was legendary, legendary.

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 6>Yes, she was wonderful. But he did coach me a lot.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 6>He did help me. He's a wonderful coach, and but

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 6>also very like critical, like I would watch them and

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 6>be like and he's like, yeah that I mean, you

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 6>just weren't listening or you weren't like really helpful. Especially

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 6>as an adult too now, like gosh, those were things

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 6>I like to carry over because there's nothing worse in

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 6>watching an actor who's just like not listening and they're

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 6>just like throwing out their lines and they're not connected.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 6>And obviously I was super young then, But I feel

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 6>like as I got older, I noticed, you know, roles,

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 6>and I didn't like what I did. And I was like, oh,

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 6>and you know, I studied with Warner Laughlin. So to

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 6>answer your question, studied, I mean Warner Laughlin is like

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 6>my go to coach, Like I coach with her forever

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 6>and still do from time to time, even just like

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 6>on the phone. But yeah, my dad will help me.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 6>My sister sometimes will run stuff. You know, I'll if

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 6>I have a friend, like I mean a couple of friends,

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 6>Like a lot of people have moved to Nashville, which

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 6>is wild, so I'll like work with them on stuff sometimes.

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 3>But because that's where you live now, or any.

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 6>Of you here, I know you're not.

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 3>No, no, we are not.

0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Actually you mentioned your sister, so I want to te

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about your siblings, because your brother

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>went on to become a very successful songwriter, and your

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 2>sister is also an actress best known for doing dance

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 2>moves I wish I could do.

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 3>She was in the Step Up of Movies, two of.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 5>The two of the more important ones of the of

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 5>the of the series of four, She's in Step Up

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 5>to the Streets.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>In the fourth one.

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 6>Actually, I think Fifth one loves Step Up, really loves it.

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 4>Any of them their their life.

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:38.399
<v Speaker 1>It's really want to Yeah, I mean Step Up two.

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 5>When when we meet Moose in two, it really kind

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 5>of changes the entire amazing tire ball game.

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, for all those movies, you got no idea.

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he really.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.399
<v Speaker 6>Loves my sister dancing together one time.

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 5>No, I don't dance at all a matter of fact,

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm completely and totally opposed to it.

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But the films are wonderful, yeah, which is really all

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that matters. Yeah, they're great.

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So tell us a little bit about your sister, Brianna,

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 2>your brother Jason Evgan.

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you guys are very you're an entertainment family. We are.

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 6>We definitely are. My my brother, I'll start with my brother.

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 6>He he is, but they're both my younger brother. Younger

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 6>brother and sister. My brother is kind of started off

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 6>in a band and and you know.

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Just really want to tell us about the band.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.879
<v Speaker 6>He was in the After Midnight Project, but they were

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 6>first Illusion and then you know he I think at

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 6>some point he kind of just realized like this isn't

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 6>I mean, he was signed and then unsigned, like Jack

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 6>Osborne signed him, and he was doing a little bit

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 6>here and there, and then I think one day he

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 6>really really realized, like, I'm going to try and catalog

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 6>my music and see what happens. And he did, and

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 6>he did some Disney stuff and then he got his

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 6>first big because he's a writer and a producer and

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 6>a phenomenal singer and can do every instrument. I mean,

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 6>he's truly like a brilliant He's like a he's like

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 6>a genius when it comes to so yeah, he's like

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 6>a genetic defect. I don't understand. Yeah, he so heart attack.

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 6>But that Demi Lovado sings was like, I feel like

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 6>the one that got him on the map really and

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 6>then and then it followed with like, you know, talked

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 6>Dirty to Me, that Jason Derula song, and then a

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:24.439
<v Speaker 6>slew of incredible Room five songs, and then he's got

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 6>like he's I mean, he's I feel like if you

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 6>name a person's he's wrote or he's.

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Worked with my dear friend Sabrina Carpenter, yes he has. Yeah.

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 6>And then him and his wife started their own little

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 6>project called Elephant Part, which is phenomenal. I mean, it's

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 6>like the best music your kids can listen to it too,

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.439
<v Speaker 6>because it's just wonderful. Me she just wanted to dance.

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 6>It's so happy. And then my sister, you know, she

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 6>was an dancer and went to Campbell Hall and literally

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 6>was like doing a recital and this guy named Matt

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 6>just love her and decided to manage We wanted to

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:03.919
<v Speaker 6>manage her and got her an audition for a Step

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 6>Up and she missed our family Hawaii trip for it

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 6>and this better, this better be a better payoff. Yeah,

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 6>because you're not you're not an actress, like this was

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 6>your first you know, it was literally like her first

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 6>thing ever, and she was just a natural, absolutely, like

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 6>as you know.

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 5>And I think, uh, I think if memory serves, the

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:27.479
<v Speaker 5>Step Up movies were produced by David Nixy, who's Early

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 5>nick Say's dad.

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so Lily nix Say's dad produced all the Step

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 5>Up movies.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, gosh, we are all so connected.

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, really small world.

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and John Chu directed to I believe, and maybe

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 6>all of them, I don't know, and he's so talented.

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 3>So yeah.

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 6>And now my sister is actually in Africa. She lived

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 6>in Africa and she lives in Zimbabwe and she is

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 6>married with a child, and they are this amazing force.

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 6>Just they have a documentary coming out. They're doing so

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 6>much basically just to they're working on creating sustainable living

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 6>for people that I mean, it all kind of flows together.

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 6>It's really hard to explain in a nutshell and I

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 6>can't do it. But she's just making a huge difference

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 6>over there.

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Right now, and I'm so proud of amazing.

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 6>Yes, and she was only supposed to go during COVID

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 6>for like a year and a half or two years,

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.839
<v Speaker 6>and then she found met her husband, who's wonderful and

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:32.919
<v Speaker 6>he's the reason women are allowed to be rangers in Africa.

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 6>He started something there and he preserves all this land.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 6>So they're just an incredible couple. And yeah, and I

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 6>really miss her, but she is coming back out here

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 6>in November. Abundant Village is her thing, and she's doing

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 6>a lot of a lot of talks and you know,

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.800
<v Speaker 6>just fundraising like public speaking, speaking and getting people familiar

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 6>with what she's doing. So yeah, wow, that's cool. And

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 6>they're my best friends, both of them. They're just great humans.

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 6>So that's the most import In part.

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Going back a little bit before when we were talking

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 2>about against the Grain and Social Studies, two shows that

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 2>could have been massive, huge breaks, but then were life

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 2>was cut short, as they so often are with shows

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>that just get yanked off the air before they're really

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:16.240
<v Speaker 2>given a chance.

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember one was that heartbreaking for you? And two?

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Did your dad have any advice or like, what did

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 2>your dad say to you then when that happened and

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you were probably devastated.

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it's always hard. It's always hard when you

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 6>when you get canned or canceled or you know, all

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 6>picked up or it was hard. Especially the Against the

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 6>Grain one was hard because it was like critically acclaimed.

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 6>They were like NBC's it's like their favorite show and

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 6>it's gonna you know, it's it's gonna be huge, blah

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 6>blah blah. And I'm a kid, so I'm just thinking, great,

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 6>you believe it's so young. I think I was twelve

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 6>or thirteen maybe, and it was really sad. I mean

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 6>I remember because we all just got so close and

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 6>Ben was like felt like a brother, and I just

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 6>I didn't want to go back to school either because

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 6>it was so hard.

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just wanted to stay ever forever.

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, it was hard. It was heartbreaking. And and

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 6>when Social Studies was canceled too, that was really hard

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 6>because I mean that was another one, Like you said that,

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.479
<v Speaker 6>we just they really thought that one was going to work.

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 6>And I don't really know what happened. And you know,

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 6>anytime you're you just it's just hard.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 6>My dad's advice was just keep going. If you love it,

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 6>don't give up. And it's it's a business that's going

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:42.919
<v Speaker 6>to either it's going to either build you up, break

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 6>you down, or crush you and you won't be able

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 6>to do it. So you have to be strong enough

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 6>to stay in it or you got to quit. And

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, and not quit, but just like walk away

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 6>and do You always said find something you love to

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 6>do that you're good at, that you can make money at.

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 6>And I'm like, okay, I think I'm pretty good at it.

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 6>I can make money at this. I love it, but

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 6>I you know, you know what it's like, it's like

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 6>up and down, like I watched my dad and my

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 6>sister and I will all so I always say, any

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 6>job is a blessing and exciting and I'm like, you

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 6>never know when you're gonna be back on set again. Yeah,

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.359
<v Speaker 6>I love I mean, I love it. I think it's

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 6>so fun.

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you have any memories of young Ben Affleck.

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, definitely, Yeah. He was a cute one still is wild.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:33.399
<v Speaker 6>How I mean to think Ben just I mean I can't.

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 6>I mean, he's like he's been Jen Low or whatever

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 6>Ben j that even I heard of that. I love it. Yeah,

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 6>I mean, honestly, my memory is my guardian because my

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 6>parents were trying to like take my sister places. My

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:54.879
<v Speaker 6>dad was working, my mom, you know, all of us,

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 6>and I'm on the show, and my brother was like

0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 6>on a traveling hockey league. So this Kelly was our

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 6>babysitter and she was eighteen I think, or she's like

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 6>twenty one, I would say, and I think just head

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 6>over heels for him, and I just it was just

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 6>that was my biggest memory because I was like too young.

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 6>I always like thought he'd really cute.

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 2>And probably had a crush on him, right, but he

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>was like a big brother more than someone.

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Uh huh. He actually is the reason I started

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 6>a really weird habit that I still do. And my

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 6>sister and brother and my parents will notice it, but

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 6>I'll and you probably remember it, Danielle, maybe but I go.

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 3>Like, yes, okay, yes, your little mouth thing you do.

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, it's like a rabbit. I'm actually smelling my breath.

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 6>But one day on set I was just doing that,

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:44.959
<v Speaker 6>like not really knowing what I was doing, and Ben

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 6>was like, are you what are you doing? You look

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 6>like a little rabbit. What are you doing? I was like,

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, and I literally I'm not kidding with you.

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 6>It became the worst habit. I just started doing it because.

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 2>How are you doing You're blowing mouth, You're blo out

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>of you.

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 3>To smell your breath.

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And it didn't start that way, but now now

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 6>it's actually like a really interesting way to tell if

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 6>your breath smells. My brother would be like, you're doing it,

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 6>you're because then it got to the point where I

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:19.720
<v Speaker 6>would literally be doing it in the middle of a scene.

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>You know when someone points something out's how they say

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 6>to your don't oh yeah, not your kids are doing

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 6>is they're going to keep doing it and like ignore

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 6>everything they do that's not right.

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 4>There?

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Aff Yeah, yeah, did you watch your Boy Meets World

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 2>episode when it aired on? Like, did you did the

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:54.280
<v Speaker 2>whole family gather around and watch your episode.

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure we all did, like I'm

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 6>I mean, and if you weren't there, we must I

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 6>must have had like I don't know, we had to

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 6>have done something. I know we definitely watched it, Like,

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty sure it was very exciting that it was,

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, coming on and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, well, as as everyone knows, Jensen and I also

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 2>went to high school together. So Jensen knew you as

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 2>you guys were friends as teenagers, and Jensen swears that

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 2>you two watched a social studies episode over the phone

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:26.240
<v Speaker 2>together probably, by the way, was a thing you did.

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 4>The most I've ever heard. Yeah, let's watch a TV

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 4>show one of us and talk about it.

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, while on the phone together.

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<v Speaker 6>It was hilarious. Yes, I mean those were the good

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 6>old days when you pick up the phone and like

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 6>actually talk to people. Yeah, I mean I don't sorry, Jensen,

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.359
<v Speaker 6>I don't remember that that well. But I remember we

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 6>were friends. Well that's good friends. And then when I

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 6>and then when I found out you guys got married,

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 6>I was like, thank god, just it's so nice when

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 6>you see like people finding each other that are yes

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 6>and love and all that.

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so as we mentioned you now live in Nashville,

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 2>just an absolutely beautiful family living what could only be

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 2>described is what looks like a Hallmark movie shot on

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 2>a farm. Your property is absolutely gorgeous. You are always

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:18.760
<v Speaker 2>your photos look just every but you're also so real.

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Especially over the last couple of years, Vanessa has really

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 2>embraced I think after years of feeling a lot of

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 2>pressure to live like a quote unquote perfect life visually

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 2>of a certain aesthetic on Instagram, Vanessa realized the damaging

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 2>effect that was having on her own mental health and

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 2>figured if it's affecting her mental health, it's probably affecting

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 2>other people's and she did not want to contribute to

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 2>the furtherance of it. And so you kind of adjusted

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>what you post, and now you post very sometimes absolutely

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 2>gorgeous photos and wonderful things, but they're also you post

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 2>very relatable topics, and you have very relatable humor, and

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 2>you show what your life is really like as a

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 2>mom of two still work. As you mentioned you you

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 2>recently did a movie not that long ago. Why don't

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 2>you tell us about some of the projects you have

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:07.760
<v Speaker 2>right now and then I'll go back to your home life.

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 6>Well, thank you for saying that. It is very important

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 6>to me to be real.

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 5>I I.

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 6>Kind of can't even get on Instagram often anymore because

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm just like a little Yeah, so I really try

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 6>to try to be very real and right now I

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 6>just post what I feel like. It's pretty out. It's

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.399
<v Speaker 6>flowers that are blooming and so pretty and I planted

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 6>them from seeds. But yes, I'll go back to that.

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 6>But I did. I've done a couple things since I

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 6>had kids, but not a ton. I was really thankful.

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 6>I did a Western in I think it was like

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one.

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what I was talking about.

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 6>That was that was really really awesome. That was one

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 6>of my favorite, probably one of my favorite jobs. I

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 6>side for point means world of course because it will.

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 6>It filmed in Nashville, and I was like the lead

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 6>female in it and it was just me and a

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 6>bunch of men on horseback with rifles and.

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 4>It's cool cool.

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. So and it took place you know, in the

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:18.720
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, late some time before you know anything.

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 6>So we are all there all nineteen early nineteen hundreds

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 6>or eighteen.

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 5>Okay, yes, probably the probably around the if it was

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 5>a Western, you're probably around the eighteen sixties.

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for being smarter century late eighteen hundred, eighteen hundreds.

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 6>I was like, yeah, I mean I get it, but like,

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 6>I definitely didn't have that an eighteen hundreds of a

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 6>few things there. Well, it wasn't like a million twenty

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 6>million dollar movie where the people were like, Okay, we

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:47.439
<v Speaker 6>got to move all these.

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 4>Things out of the world.

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 5>Right. The cowboys are talking to each other on cell phones?

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 6>Right, how can I not put this movie into a

0:48:56.000 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 6>comedy though I don't really do things like hormal, I

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 6>don't know, but it was so fun and I got

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 6>to get my kids were in it, which was so cool,

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 6>and my husband, which is the ultimate, like he literally

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 6>got so into the role. It was maybe fifteen second role.

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 3>He hit a fifteen second cameo.

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he gets killed, but he went method yes, and

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 6>he gets shot off the horse by sorry if I'm

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 6>reading the movie. Spoiler is such a brilliant movie that

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 6>you don't know no trace Atkins, who's a song country singer, Yeah,

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 6>a country singer, Yeah, rides up on a horse and

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 6>shoots him. And my husband is a horse. He rides horses,

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 6>And that wasn't meant to be in the movie. But

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 6>I told the director. I was like, hey, Mike, you know,

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 6>my husband's actually really good rider, and he probably loved

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 6>to like ride in on it, so he kind of

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 6>changed the whole thing around for him. And he runs,

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 6>he trots up like gets in the fight, gets shot,

0:49:57.600 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 6>and he falls off the horse himself, does the stunt,

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 6>doesn't Adlise. He's got to do it probably fifty times

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 6>because you know, it's a movie, like, and he was

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:08.840
<v Speaker 6>like doing the thing like where you're like on the

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:12.919
<v Speaker 6>ground something and he couldn't walk for like a week

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 6>after that. I mean, it was good. He looks great

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 6>and the kids were so adorable in it, and that

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 6>was really it was so fun and yeah, so that

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 6>was like the most recent thing I did. And I

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 6>feel like I've been kind of like my agent will

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 6>send the auditions and I just am like, yeah, maybe

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 6>I'll be like put myself on for that one. But

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 6>I I just like would never want to turn a

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 6>job down, right, So if I were to just happen

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 6>to get it, I would never want to be like

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 6>I can't. Yeah, I was gonna get it, but just

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, when I was like I'm gonna.

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 2>And if it shoots in Nashville. That makes it a

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 2>lot easier for you than having to travel for.

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 6>It because it's in Atlanta or Nashville, you know, working

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 6>sometimes California just kind of depends on what it is.

0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 4>So just nothing shooting in California anymore.

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:03.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a Georgia, I know it is. It really is,

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.239
<v Speaker 6>and it's you know so and they just need to

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 6>get it here now too. I feel like so many

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.319
<v Speaker 6>people have moved here. It's crazy, I know. Yeah.

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 4>I feel like all of La just left from Nashville

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 4>in the last ten years.

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 6>I know, Jason Priestley, Melissa, everybody was like all like,

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 6>so Shane West just moved here, which I just found

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 6>a picture of us together.

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 2>All Oh, yeah, me too. I've got a great picture

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:25.439
<v Speaker 2>of you, Me and Shane West those days.

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 6>Corbyn and Corbyn, Oh my gosh, we have the short

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.360
<v Speaker 6>things that the belly rings. Oh my god, oh gosh.

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I know, did we ever belly buttons piers together?

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:35.680
<v Speaker 6>And we did?

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:39.880
<v Speaker 3>We did, That's right, that's right. It was so fun.

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Either of you still wear belly button piercings?

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 4>No, I didn't think so.

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 3>I committed to mine though for a long time.

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 6>Here's a lot longer than me I had.

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I had mine until I was like thirty.

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 6>We had a lot longer than I thought too. Yeah

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 6>that's mine. Yeah, mine didn't last after a jump? And

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 6>why off of the cliff? Oh yeah, it was pretty rough.

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>So we did it? Get ripped out?

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:15.800
<v Speaker 6>Ish fully, Oh gosh, why did you let her do that? Pam? Like,

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't blame mom, Like I was the one that

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 6>like did it.

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 2>So you mentioned that you were able to have your kids,

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Maverick and Bertie Rose in the movie with you. If

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 2>either of them said that they wanted to pursue a

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 2>career in the entertainment industry, how would you and your

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 2>husband Miles approach it.

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I guess I I maybe go along

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 6>that same route my dad did and say like, Okay,

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 6>well let's let's start by getting me in a play

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 6>or something. Yeah, if you do, and really work their

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:50.959
<v Speaker 6>way up to it. And I'm quite frankly, I don't

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.280
<v Speaker 6>even know, Like I know, I still have an agent.

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.799
<v Speaker 6>I could probably say, hey, you know, could you send

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 6>them out for something or hear? But Maddick's really into

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:03.240
<v Speaker 6>sports right now, thankfully, I Bertie could, like I wish

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 6>I had her dramatic. I mean, I'm dramatic, but she's

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 6>like next level. I've never seen anything like. I mean

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 6>she can. We're at that point where I don't know, like,

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 6>are you really is this like doing? We need to

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 6>go to the doctor every day, right, do we? Like?

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.879
<v Speaker 6>I mean, the whole thing. But if if anyone were

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 6>to go that way, I would say it might be

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 6>more her, Like, gosh.

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 6>I really want them to be like lawyers or doctors

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 6>or I don't.

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Know, fishermen, something sensible, no tough one.

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:41.320
<v Speaker 2>So let's say you had the chance to tell young

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Vanessa the one we saw on Boy Meets World. And

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.480
<v Speaker 2>let's say you get to tell her one thing about

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 2>your life? Now, what would you What would you tell her?

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 2>If you could go back in time and tell young

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Vanessa something, what would you tell her?

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh, I feel like that that kind of

0:53:56.520 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 6>stuff makes me like cry. I would say, you have

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:08.320
<v Speaker 6>no idea how great it's going to be. It's hard now,

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 6>and it's nothing. It's it's nothing that you could possibly

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:19.839
<v Speaker 6>imagine it's going to be. Yeah, Like I couldn't even

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 6>like ever imagine this would be my life. So I would. Yeah,

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 6>I think.

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:30.320
<v Speaker 3>That's such an important lesson.

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 2>It's such an important lesson because I know it's the

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 2>same thing for me too.

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:35.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, I thought I had it.

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was like, you know, I'd go down

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.719
<v Speaker 2>different paths thinking like, well, I have to I have

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 2>to purs like, what's my future going to be? It's

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 2>going to be like this, And you go down that

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 2>route and then you feel like you get a door

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 2>shoved slammed in your face and you're like.

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, but that's what I'm supposed to do. And you're like, oh,

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 3>you know what it's It's not what I'm supposed to do.

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:53.960
<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm supposed to do, and then that

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:56.279
<v Speaker 2>door slams in your face and you're like, well now

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel so super lost and it must be me

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 2>and something's wrong with me, and and it's actually that No,

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 2>you're not supposed to know what it's going to be,

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:06.640
<v Speaker 2>and whatever it does end up being is going to

0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:09.799
<v Speaker 2>be beyond anything you're capable of imagining for yourself. So

0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:12.400
<v Speaker 2>stop worrying about it so much. Stop trying to manipulate it,

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 2>stop trying to control it. Stop trying to shove a

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 2>square peg into a round hole and just go live

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:19.879
<v Speaker 2>the life and enjoy the journey.

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 3>To wherever it takes you.

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:25.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's such an important lesson, and I'm honored to

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:27.959
<v Speaker 2>have been on the journey with you for all these

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:28.879
<v Speaker 2>years too.

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 6>You're just like anytime I think of you, even my

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 6>Dad's like it's official, but yeah, I mean, yeah, you're

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean you're just like all joy when I think

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 6>of you and all of our memories together, and you know,

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:51.360
<v Speaker 6>even when we get to see each other now in California,

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<v Speaker 6>when I come back and I'm going to see you

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<v Speaker 6>the next time i'm out there, I'm going to come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also will come visit you in Nashville. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to see your place.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, definitely. I mean, my Myles jokes all the time

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<v Speaker 6>because I'm like trying to like just give people land.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, we have so much land. You want, you

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<v Speaker 6>can have it, build yourself a home. We'll come out

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<v Speaker 6>and charge you for the acreage. So just just come.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll just build a community.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. That's what writer's dream, yeah dream, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>communal living.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, please, I mean come all right, we'll give you

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<v Speaker 6>and your wife would like become fast like, yeah, you know, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, thank you so much for being with us. Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for coming and revisiting these these uh these

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.719
<v Speaker 2>teenage years and your time on Boy Meets World with us.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you so much and I look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>seeing you sometime soon.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for having me on to see you here. Bye.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh. The fact that she had like it sounded like

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<v Speaker 4>she had like a rough like fifth or sixth grade.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, and she was so beautiful and like what

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<v Speaker 4>I would have assumed is like the popular girl, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And the fact that she has like these bullying memories.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye all never know, you never know, you never know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're you're right exactly. But it's so funny because here

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<v Speaker 4>she is getting cast as on our show the popular

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<v Speaker 4>meme girl, because that is kind of her her look

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<v Speaker 4>at that age, you know, you would assume, like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this girl's fine, like this girl is going to have

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<v Speaker 4>confidence and be told and of course it's just never

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<v Speaker 4>the case. You have no idea what's going on inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Vanessa did.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a very very rough all all of junior

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<v Speaker 2>high was extremely rough for her, and also a significant

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<v Speaker 2>portion of high school, and she was really bullied, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's something she I'm so proud of her

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<v Speaker 2>because never ever did her negative experiences in junior high

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<v Speaker 2>school or high school change the kind of person that

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<v Speaker 2>she was.

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<v Speaker 3>She never let it make her angry or jaded or mean.

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<v Speaker 2>She was always just a consistent, bright, beautiful, fun, awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful person. But the truth is, you know, she she

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<v Speaker 2>turned it inward. She had a lot of pain inside,

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<v Speaker 2>and she had a lot of self doubt, and she

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of self esteem stuff. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm talking out of school to say she's worked

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<v Speaker 2>very hard on herself, sure, and it shows. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons why I mentioned her social media because

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<v Speaker 2>when you do go to it and you see her,

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<v Speaker 2>she's very open about, you know, struggling with body image

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<v Speaker 2>and self image and figuring out how social media plays

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<v Speaker 2>into her life is in a way of being able

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<v Speaker 2>to share with friends and family, but also not contributing

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<v Speaker 2>to something that seems fake. And so it's very she's

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<v Speaker 2>just she's an open book. And I just love and

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate and respect her so much, and I'm truly lucky

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<v Speaker 2>to have known her for all the years that I

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<v Speaker 2>have and I'll never I'll never not be in touch

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<v Speaker 2>within us, just that they actually have, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but she has said give it away.

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<v Speaker 4>I have at least like one hundred, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifty eight years. It's a horse ranch. It's an actual

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<v Speaker 4>horse ranch.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's got a farm and she's got Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>from what I understand, it's like a city. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>city of acreage, California.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she is.

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<v Speaker 1>She and her husband owned Tenna. There you go.

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