1 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about last night? 2 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: Roynert? 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: Should you talk about last night? 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 4: Do you want to talk about last Do you want 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 4: to talk about what happened? But I saw Will in 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 4: the wild last night. He went out to an event 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 4: and it wasn't a Podweights World event. It wasn't business related. 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it was kind of business y, 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: but it was just for a friend. 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, So George Wong directed a movie called Weekend in Taipei, 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 4: and George is, you know, one of Will's oldest friends. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: And I haven't hadn't actually seen him, I think for 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: like nine or ten years really, yeah, but he had 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: recently reached out for me and Alex to help him 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: out acting in a short film that he's making. And 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: you couldn't do it. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: You couldn't do it. I wouldn't. 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: And then so we just reconnected and we've been talking 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 4: and then he said, oh, I directed this big movie 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: and Luke Proissant uh produced it with him and wrote 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 4: it with him and uh. So he had the premiere 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: last night and he invited me and Will and I 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: was it was so fun. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: Man, you guys you were going to see each other there. 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: It wasn't like you spotted him in the wild randomly. 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 4: No, okay, it was it was bizarre. I mean, I 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 4: thought about it when I got home. It was like, 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: that was so nice to like hang out with Will 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: and talk and like not be podcasting right or doing 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: the show or a convention. It was like, oh man, 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: it was just it was fun. 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 5: It was. 34 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 4: But the movie is really good. 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: It is. 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 5: But the thing that was so fun was our business 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 5: is in such a ridiculous kind of state of flux. 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 5: It doesn't know what it is anymore. We don't know 39 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 5: what's happening in the industry at all. And then there's 40 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 5: these little nuggets of like what it used to be 41 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 5: like going to a premiere, you know, even though it 42 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 5: was kind of a smaller premiere, there was still a 43 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 5: little red carpet and I sat there and I watched 44 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: a whole but I didn't walk it, of course, But 45 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 5: I sat there and I watched a whole bunch of 46 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 5: like celebrities that I've seen before. And there's all these 47 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: cool like ferraris set up outside because there's a lot 48 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 5: of car chases in the thing. And then you go 49 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 5: to this little reception afterwards with it, and it was 50 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 5: just like a taste of what it used to be 51 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 5: in La you know, and a lot of it is 52 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 5: kind of ridiculous, but it was fun. There was a 53 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 5: pageantry to it that I think I got a little 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 5: taste of last Night and you get to see a 55 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 5: great film at the same time. 56 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: It was a fun night and. 57 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: It's coming out in theaters, which I'm really excited about that. 58 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: Pings feel like they're coming out in theaters, which I'm 59 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: so happy about, even if it's limited release. 60 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, people are missing, but we're amazed at how fast 61 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 5: like they come out in theaters and then a week 62 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: later you can I know exactly. 63 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so fast. 64 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: But isn't that part of the problem, like that you're like, 65 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna Yeah, things should like be forced to 66 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: stay in theaters and then it should be like, well. 67 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: It used to be you'd have to wait six to eight. 68 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: Months for a movie to come out on VHS, you know, 69 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: and remember that. 70 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 5: It was like you'd walk into Blockbuster or something and 71 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: be like, oh, that's right, whatever just. 72 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: Came out on DVD. 73 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, the coolest. 74 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 4: I think that's really important for the cultural like the zeitgeys, 75 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 4: you know, I mean that's that's the problem with streamers. 76 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 4: It's like even when they have good, big movies, they 77 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: kind of just come and go. You know, showers get 78 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: a lot of cultural time because like everybody's watching them 79 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: for weeks or binging them that week. But like movies, 80 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 4: it's I've been really sad to see things just pop 81 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: up on Netflix that that are good and then you know, 82 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: big movies with big stars, and then you try and 83 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: talk to other people about them and it's like it's 84 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: not on their algorithm, so they never popped up, and 85 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: then yeah, it's it's it's it's a bummer. I missed 86 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: the culture of like everybody's watching the same movie that 87 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: summer or that winter or whatever. 88 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: You know, let's go see Joker two together, Yeah, I heard. 89 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: I'm one of the tractors. 90 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: I didn't like the first ones, so I definitely had 91 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: no interest in the second. 92 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: Did anyone see Wild Robot? You did sart opening day? 93 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: I want to see it in theaters. 94 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: I saw them you can stream it for the same 95 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: price we could go see it in theater, and I 96 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: was like, no, I want to see it in the theater. 97 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: Okay, that's one of. 98 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: The best books too, to read to your kids by 99 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: the way, Oh my god, Like there's there's two or 100 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: three of them, but the first one, yeah, it had 101 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: been recommended in Indian and I just spent like, you know, 102 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: two weeks reading it every night, and it was it's beautiful. 103 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: It's so touching and fun. And then the movie I 104 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: couldn't believe that it visually it was just you know, 105 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: like animation is so cool these days. Like I love 106 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 4: that we're finally past the point of like making everything 107 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: look real, and now we're making things like look stylized, 108 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: you know, like Mitchell's Versus Machines, like these like interpretive 109 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: like takes with CGI, you know, so it's not just 110 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: like make it look real anymore three dimensional. It's like, 111 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: give it some style, give it its own look and feel. 112 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons. 113 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: Why I was just gonna say, speaking of animation, our 114 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: very own. Will Fredell is starring in a Lego Marvel 115 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: Avengers movie Mission Demolition. 116 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: He plays Dennis. It's out right now. I've already seen 117 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: it three times. 118 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on Disney Plus my kids love it. Will 119 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: sent me a text and was like, hey, FYI, I've 120 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: got a movie coming out and I think the kids 121 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: are gonna like it. And I was like, what how 122 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: come I know nothing about this? When did you do this? 123 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: Why are you keeping secrets from us? And so the 124 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: next day was a Saturday. We came out on a Saturday. 125 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: Rightday was a Friday night. Okay, so Friday night, so 126 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: Friday night we we was literally the day it came out. 127 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: I said, do you want to see Uncle Will in 128 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: a movie? And Ather was like, yeah, which one's Uncle Will? 129 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: And then there's a whole opening with all the Avengers 130 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: and Will isn't one of the Avengers. He plays Dennis, 131 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: and so literally every character is that Uncle Will. 132 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: Is that Uncle Will. I was like, no, no other, 133 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: I'll let you know when we get to him. Is 134 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: that Uncle Will is uncle Will? Ironman is that Uncle Will. 135 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: I was like, when we see Uncle Will, I'll let 136 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: you know no all time. Finally I was like fast 137 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: warning to uncle. 138 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Is God yet No. 139 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: It was so fun, It's so cute. Highly highly recommend 140 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: you watch it. 141 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: It was cool, It was cool. We had a ton 142 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: of fun doing it. 143 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: The Lego world is you know, a perfect combination with 144 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 5: something like Marvel two. 145 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: It just works on all the levels. So Yeah, we 146 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: had a blast. 147 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: You can't go wrong with with wilfred Ell and Kevin Smith, 148 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: you know. 149 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the two of us together, so ye's kind 150 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: of cool. 151 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so fun. Welcome to pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishal, 152 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm Right or Strong, and I'm Will Ferdell. 153 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: When a sixth grader not only changes schools, but moves 154 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: towns all together, it's not an easy process, especially when 155 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: you're just about to start filming a sitcom that gives 156 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: you extended leaves of absence for weeks at a time. 157 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: So when I did transfer to ay Wright Middle School 158 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: in Calabasas, California in nineteen ninety three, the front office 159 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: thought it would be a good idea to pair me 160 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: with a buddy and a signed friend who coincidentally was 161 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: also a child actor. And thus began the friendship of 162 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: Danielle Fischle and Vanessa Evigan, one that would extend to 163 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: high school and then into adulthood and motherhood and now. 164 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: Whatever podcast hood is. 165 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: We spend our summers either in her bed bath and 166 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: beyond vanilla scented Ford Explorer or my bed bath and 167 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: beyond vanilla scented Toyota four Runner blasting sublime and gossiping 168 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: about boys. 169 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: We liked on the way to Malibu Beach. And so 170 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: when she in the. 171 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: Moment more California than. 172 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: Did really was, it was the best. 173 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: And so when she was cast on Boy Meets World 174 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: during season fives, if you Can't Be with the One 175 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: you love as the recently rhinoplastid Kimberly Susman, I couldn't 176 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: have been more excited. She had just come off starring 177 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: on her own show UPN's Social Study and also six 178 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: episodes of Against the Grain on NBC with a young 179 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: Ben Affleck, and would later appear on You Wish Norm 180 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: How I Met Your Mother, and as Britney Hodges on 181 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: over two dozen episodes of The Young and the. 182 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: Restless, and they probably shot all of those on like 183 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: one day. 184 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: Coincidentally, Boy Meets World wasn't Vanessa's first Michael Jacob sett. 185 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: Her debut was as a background eight year old on 186 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: My Two Dads, a show her father, Greg Evigan, starred 187 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: in opposite Paul Riser. And today we have forced her 188 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: to come to talk to us minus the Sublime and 189 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: Vanilla car smell about that one time in nineteen ninety eight, 190 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: she was on the Boy Meets World episode that dealt 191 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: with teenage drinking. Welcome to the podcast, Vanessa Evigan. 192 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, Oh my gosh, I don't even know how 193 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 6: to use a computer. 194 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: Hey, it's so good to see you. Good to see 195 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 3: you too, Oh my goodness, here, thank you for being here. 196 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: I was just explaining to the guy and the whole 197 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: world about how you and I met that you were 198 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: my assigned buddy. 199 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 5: Buddy assigning friends to Danielle or. 200 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: Chance it assigned us. 201 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 6: I don't even remember. 202 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 2: That you were my assigned buddy at a e Wright 203 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: when I first started there in sixth grade. 204 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: The school was like, yes, the school was. 205 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: Like, we are going to put you in touch with 206 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: this very sweet, fun, wonderful girl. 207 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 3: We think you guys will really hit it off, and 208 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: obv we did. 209 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: But literally they were like, you can't come in here 210 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: without any friends. And you were my sweet friend who 211 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: like showed me around the school and showed me where 212 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: to eat lunch, and and that's literally how we met. 213 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 6: At the beginning of our amazing. 214 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: Friendship, I know, our lifelong friendship. So that reminds me. 215 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: I guess if you don't remember being my assigned buddy, 216 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: maybe you don't also remember what I was wearing on 217 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: that first day of school, or do you remember the 218 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: story about what I was wearing on the first day story? 219 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 4: I thought, maybe we just actually remembered. 220 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: It's a very funny story. I know, Oh my gosh, 221 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 2: it's so cringe, but okay. So in Orange County, where 222 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: I grew up before I moved to Calabasas, the first 223 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: day of school, at least all through elementary school grades 224 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: one through five the only thing I had been to. 225 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: Everyone got very dressed up for the first day of school, 226 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: like your first day of. 227 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: School outfit was a big deal. 228 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: And my best friend Jessica from elementary school, we used 229 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: to plan our outfits all summer long, what are we 230 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 2: gonna wear, and like, at least the first day, if 231 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: not the whole first week, we would wear kind of 232 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: fancier clothes then you end up wearing for the rest 233 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: of the school year. So on the first day of 234 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: sixth grade to eighty Wright, I was like. 235 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: I'm new to this school. I wore. 236 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: I wore like one beast blacken white, little floral jumper, 237 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: like like a pant pant suit. 238 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: Jumper those one beast. 239 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: Like like a blossom style. 240 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: And I also wore like pantyhose and ballet flats, and 241 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: I my mom My mom swears she's like, I tried 242 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: to talk you out of it, and I do remember 243 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: her saying like, I don't think they're gonna do that. 244 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think it's gonna I don't think. 245 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna want to be wearing this today. 246 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: And I was like, no, no, I was very sure 247 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: this is what I wanted to wear. And I got 248 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: there and it was like, you know, nineteen ninety three, 249 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: and everyone had on beat her jeans, converse beaning. 250 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: Old T shirts, flannels. 251 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: Like it was. 252 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing remotely like what I was wearing. 253 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: And all day I was like, this is so uncomfortable. 254 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: And my favorite memory, aside from meeting Vanessa that day, 255 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: is that as I was walking alone down a hallway, 256 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: a walks toward me, making this face at me the 257 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: whole way and looks me up and down, and as 258 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: he passes me, goes. 259 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: Are you going to a funeral? 260 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 5: Oh? 261 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: My god, you had the best style. 262 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 6: I can't even imagine anyone thinking that we were going 263 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 6: to a funeral. 264 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, he really and I was like, that 265 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: is exactly what it was. I was like, I should 266 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: just run with it. 267 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Immediately after school, I have to go write your funeral, 268 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: right Grandma, Grandma, Grandma. 269 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 3: I gotta go making me wear this right now. Actually, 270 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 3: my mom picked me up from school and she was like, 271 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: how would your day? And I was like, we are 272 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 3: going shopping now, and the immediately I. 273 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: Bought all all new clothes store exactly and yeah, anyway, 274 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: tell me. 275 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Please tell me. Jan Fisher has a photo of that. 276 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: I hope so. 277 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: I don't think we have somewhere, but it's it's pretty, 278 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: it's pretty mortifying. 279 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: I think about it about once a month. Vanessa. 280 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: We just watched If You Can't Be with the One 281 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: You Love and we attended Kimberly Susman's nose Job party. 282 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 6: Oh yes, how do I You look? 283 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: Fantastic? 284 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: Wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts on the episode? 285 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 6: Now? 286 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: It is armuably maybe the most. 287 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: Very special episode we had had, at least up to 288 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: that point on the show. What did you think about 289 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: it watching it today? I? 290 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 6: Well, I watched it actually my son. I let my 291 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 6: son wanted to watch it, and it was such a 292 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 6: big deal. Obviously, because Ben, you know, he takes his 293 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 6: first drink. I think, so that was a big, big 294 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 6: deal and. 295 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: Now is a mom. 296 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 6: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like it's gonna 297 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 6: happen one day to me. I'm gonna have to like 298 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 6: be the mom that So that's how I thought of 299 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 6: it now. And I also was like, wow, you know, nice. 300 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 4: Pat of brawl. 301 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 6: What was happening with but like everything and I'm not 302 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 6: remembering what an interesting haircut. I was looking back at 303 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 6: it going and then I thought, gosh, that was such 304 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 6: a great show. I loved it. I forgot how awesome 305 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 6: it was and how I mean it was funny, and 306 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 6: then there was those moments where and everyone was so 307 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 6: good in it. It wasn't like it just. 308 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 5: The show in general or that specific episode episode. 309 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: Comedy. 310 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I mean. 311 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: Everyone, it's a heavy episode. 312 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 6: It's heavy, heavy for the time, you know, and yeah, 313 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 6: like really and it was wild. I kept trying to 314 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 6: figure out, like, is my TV like the even like 315 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 6: just just the quality of the show. Right, Wait a minute, 316 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 6: I'm trying to get the call. I'm like, you know what, 317 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 6: it's just perfect the way it is. And then I'm like, 318 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 6: this was those were the good days. They really were 319 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 6: the good old. 320 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: Like we do talk about how weird it is to 321 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: not have everything in like four K, Like we're like, oh, wow, 322 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: you can't read. 323 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: You can't read. Everything's all blurry. 324 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 5: You're trying to pause it to read stuff in the background, 325 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 5: and it just never can never kind of get it 326 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 5: exactly where you want it. 327 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. 328 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, but you all look exactly the same, literally, like 329 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 6: I'm not kidding, I'm not I'm serious. It's so wid 330 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 6: especially you Danielle, Like wow, I mean, thank you, you 331 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 6: know you guys, just uh yeah, it was so fun. 332 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 6: That was a really really really like just not only 333 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 6: the fact that we were best friends. Yeah, and we 334 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 6: got to do that show together. I was like, oh 335 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 6: my gosh, this couldn't be like more special. 336 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 5: So you were you were friends then continuously from sixth 337 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 5: grade up through this. So did you tell Danielle like 338 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 5: I have an audition for Boy Meets World or did 339 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 5: Danielle did you go to the producers and they were like, 340 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 5: that's she's like my closest friend, You've got to bring 341 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 5: her on the show. 342 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, how did that work? 343 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? I remember, because well Michael Jake. You know, my 344 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 6: dad was on My Two Dads exactly. I had known 345 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 6: Michael because I was an extra on My Two Dads 346 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 6: and I was like seven, and you know, I had 347 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 6: audition and I was like, oh, this is so great, 348 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 6: this would be so fun, but it's you know, it's 349 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 6: probably not gonna happen. And then I just remember them 350 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 6: sending everyone out, sending everything at home and telling me 351 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: to stay and I was like, oh cool, I think 352 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 6: that this was gonna happen. And then I remember I think, 353 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 6: I remember messaging you saying I think I'm I think 354 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 6: I'm going to do an episode of the show. And 355 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 6: it was just awesome. 356 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you you paged she paged me. Yeah, I 357 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: paged her. 358 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 359 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 6: I was like, remember the I mean we used to 360 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 6: have the goal. You got the updated pagers to where 361 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 6: you could like code. Lots of words came in on those. Yes, 362 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 6: it was just like a phone number anymore. Yeah, we 363 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 6: we three two. 364 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, I just remember I it's not my 365 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: number anymore, but my cell phone number was ended with 366 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: eight zero zero eight, which in page your code was boob. 367 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 6: I actually remember, because you have to memorized numbers back then. Like, 368 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 6: do you remember cell phone that? Like, we actually had 369 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 6: cell phones that had the curly wires? 370 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: Are runners? 371 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: We don't remember those two? Oh yeah we Yeah, you 372 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: had the Ford Explorer. I had a for Runner. 373 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: Well that was after I crashed the fore Runner. 374 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, tell us. 375 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: About that childhood I've ever heard from our TV shows. 376 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 6: The best part of it all though, my parents were 377 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 6: out buying me a car with my money because I 378 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 6: was acting thankfully and I'm thinking I'm getting a new car. 379 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 6: They're like, well, you should think yourself and then. 380 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: Buying me a car. No, you're buying you a car. 381 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 6: Literally, thirteen days after I got my license, I was 382 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 6: driving behind my boyfriend at the time. Uh, and I 383 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 6: just I don't know what happened, but I swear the 384 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 6: car just flipped itself into neutral on the highway, on 385 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 6: the freeway and on the one oh one, and I 386 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 6: spun out and hit the center divider head on, and 387 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 6: thankfully I was okay. And I swear you were supposed 388 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 6: to be with me, or someone was supposed to be 389 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 6: next to me in the car, because I just me, Yeah, 390 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 6: I mean it was either you or I feel like 391 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 6: I don't know who else. 392 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 4: It would would have been, And Daniel, didn't you have 393 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: like the exact same thing happened. 394 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: I also crashed my toy A fore Runner on. 395 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 5: Should not be driving inherent issue with the Toyota fore Runner. 396 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 6: They're bad, dangerous cars. 397 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: My car hydroplaned and her car flipped into neutral. But yeah, 398 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: and I also hit the center divider, completely spun out 399 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: and total MYR might I recommend a people? 400 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: Well? 401 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just kept going down after that when my 402 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 6: parents were like, well, you totaled your car, so we're 403 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 6: gonna get you an old uh used Ford explorer that 404 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 6: I mean that thing. I don't know, that thing where 405 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 6: they say fixed or repair daily found. 406 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: Exploder. 407 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh. 408 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: So what was it like seeing yourself that age on screen? 409 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: Was this the first time you had watched the episode, 410 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: like since it had aired that many years ago? 411 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: Yes? 412 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 6: Yes, because I watched it briefly for a second. My 413 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 6: son was like, I really want to watch it, and 414 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 6: and I was like, okay, trying to remember if it 415 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 6: was like a pro appropriate right. You know, he's listening 416 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 6: to this isn't in a jelly roll right now, so 417 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 6: I think we're okay. 418 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: How old is he? 419 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 6: Well? He's seven twenty seven. We argue like a lawyer. 420 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 6: I don't know, it's it's it's he's my he's my 421 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 6: husband made over. But but no, him and my daughter 422 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 6: they both wanted to watch it. But my son ended 423 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 6: up seeing, uh seeing it, or at least just just 424 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 6: a little bit of it, and he was like, why 425 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 6: what what is that on your nose? And I was 426 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 6: like oh, and I was trying to explain that to him. 427 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 6: Then he was like, you had your nose done? And 428 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 6: I'm like not really, no, no, no, no, no, I 429 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 6: was done. People think I did, especially after that. No, 430 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 6: I don't know why people thought it was real, but no, wait, 431 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 6: what were it was the main question? 432 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: What did you think seeing young Vanessa on screen? 433 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 6: I thought she was so cute. Yeah, oh she was 434 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 6: a cutie. Definitely not my best acting. I felt like 435 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 6: I was like, WHOA, Maybe got to get into some 436 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 6: acting class after that. 437 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 3: No, you were not much. You were not given much 438 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 3: with what you had. 439 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 6: It was fun, it was sweet, and I actually remember 440 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 6: it all so well going back to that, like it 441 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 6: was it was really fun and cute, you know. I 442 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 6: just those were just such fun times. I don't know, 443 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 6: it was just drawing. 444 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: Do you remember the discussion about the whole nose job thing, Like, 445 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 4: was it ever talked about like why this character was 446 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: having this party or like was we were trying to 447 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: figure out, like what was the point of it, because 448 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: it's like they don't really make a joke. We don't 449 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: really make a joke out of it. No, but then 450 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: you're wearing this thing on your face the whole time. 451 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 6: I know, I guess I don't remember. I vaguely remember 452 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 6: it just being like me being like a snotty, snooty 453 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 6: kind of rich, mean girl kind of thing. I don't 454 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 6: know why classify that as a person who would haven't read. 455 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 456 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 6: That's what We're trying to have a party for it, right, right, 457 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't really remember why. 458 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we thought we had the same conversation. 459 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: We were like, was this was this a thing people 460 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: were doing all the time back then? Like oh, nose 461 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: job parties, I know, and teenage nose job parties. 462 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: We must have had a conversation about It's some note session. 463 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 4: It must have come up, but I don't remember it 464 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: at all. I mean, all I remember is that you know, 465 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: it was the episode about drinking, but it's it's a 466 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: bizarre like it's element. 467 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a little because the show is definitely 468 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 6: about the I mean, the drinking is clearly the importance 469 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 6: of the show, right, and then for whatever reason, you know, 470 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 6: spruce it up with me with a Fonda with a 471 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 6: nose jobs. 472 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: It was really really do you what do you remember 473 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: about the week? Like, do you remember the table read? 474 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: Were you there for the table read? Do you remember 475 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: the run throughs? What do you remember most about the week? 476 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 6: I do remember. I remember being really nervous. I think 477 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 6: just because I had a crush. 478 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: I think on Matt Lawrence. 479 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: Matt Lawrence, and. 480 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 6: Then I answer, what's that? Everybody did? Probably I actually 481 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 6: I don't remember. I was like cruising through the the 482 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 6: podcast some of the podcasts, and I saw the one 483 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 6: he was on, and I actually was like, wait a minute, 484 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 6: he looked so familiar, and then I was like, oh 485 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 6: my gosh. And then he was joking or he was 486 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 6: saying something about in sync was there, and they thought 487 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 6: he was mean, but it was because he had a 488 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 6: crusher on you. And I was like, we all had 489 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 6: crushes on everyone. 490 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: That is the way it was as a teenager. 491 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, clearly, and so I just but I was nervous, 492 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 6: I think, because like you were my friend and I 493 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: wanted to make sure I did a good job. And 494 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 6: it was just, you know, when it's that close to home, 495 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 6: and I think that I think I was friends with 496 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 6: them then then or after, I don't remember, And so 497 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 6: it was one of those like you just know people, 498 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 6: and yeah, you want to make sure you do good job. 499 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 6: And obviously Michael was you know, I'd work with my 500 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 6: dad so much, and I was like, I got to 501 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 6: make sure I do, you know, leave a good impress 502 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 6: And I feel like I did a couple of his 503 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 6: shows though after that or maybe before it. 504 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 2: So good, you did leave a good impression, I guess. 505 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: So was Michael like a part of your family life? 506 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: What do you remember? What years was my two dads 507 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: on And was Michael still like a prominent figure in 508 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: your family life at the time that you were on Boy. 509 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, he really was. He was just I just, I mean, 510 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 6: my memories of him were just I mean, oh, my 511 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 6: dad always like talked so highly of him, and I 512 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 6: always thought he's really funny and serious though like he 513 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 6: he didn't scare me, but he was like he's coming 514 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 6: in to make changes. They're gonna change, you know, things 515 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 6: are like yeah, you know, And I think I was 516 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 6: maybe a little I had known that that he you know, 517 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 6: he's really smart, he's really talented, but he's also like quick, 518 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 6: comes in, you know, makes changes, leaves, wants him to 519 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 6: be done and wants it to be right. And I 520 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 6: was like, okay, I kind of just make sure you know, 521 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 6: I hear toes. Yeah, I don't zone off to my 522 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 6: add world where I'm like squirrel, what did he say? So, yeah, 523 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: it was, and I think I was at the table reading. 524 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure I was. Yeah, yeah, because I was. 525 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 6: I think I was really nervous, like turning red on 526 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 6: my chest and like sweating and probably like I like 527 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 6: real blondes, do you know. 528 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: No, that's a good way to describe Michael. 529 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 5: He was very intense, but he's also arguably the funniest 530 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: person I've ever met in my life. Yes, I mean, 531 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: he's just very quick witted with that kind of stuff. 532 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 6: So yeahah, you don't have like that many hit shows 533 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 6: back to back to back and. 534 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 5: Are without knowing exactly. Yeah, I mean, aside from being 535 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 5: a brilliant sitcom writer, which he is, brilliant, just even 536 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 5: even the way he would tell just a basic joke. 537 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 5: It's just he had the structure down. 538 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 6: He was just fun totally. And wasn't he pretty dry too? 539 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 6: Like I feel like was he dry or I don't? 540 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean it depended it dependent on how 541 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 5: he wanted to tell the joke. He could switch between 542 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 5: dry to you know, kind of bigger too. 543 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean it was, yeah, he was. He was just funny. 544 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, he really was. 545 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: What is it that gave you the acting bug as 546 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: a kid? Was it growing up on sets with your dad? 547 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 6: It was? And it was actually it's like, my biggest 548 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 6: memory of it all is there was an episode on 549 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 6: my two Dads called I don't remember the name of it, 550 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 6: but where Paul Reiser was a leprechaun. And yeah, literally 551 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 6: like he's he's a leprechaun and all these kids are 552 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 6: coming to see him, and my dad, I guess, asked Michael, like, hey, 553 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 6: my kids, you want you need extras? And he's like, yeah, 554 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 6: I need a bunch of extras. You know, would your 555 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 6: kids be up for it? And I'm I had to 556 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 6: have been six, five, seven, I don't know, and my 557 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 6: brother and I did it and my dad will know. 558 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 6: He tells the story today to this day. He said 559 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 6: Michael had to him up to him and say, hey, 560 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 6: can you tell Vanessa? Or maybe it was the camera man, 561 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 6: can you get to stop staring into the camera like 562 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 6: and and But from that moment on, I knew I 563 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 6: wanted to be an actress, I guess. And my dad 564 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 6: kept saying no, no, no, and then fine, and then 565 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 6: he would say go get into a play. And then 566 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 6: I got into a play, and then he's like you know, 567 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 6: and then finally I think when I was about eleven, 568 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 6: they were like, okay, well we'll let you do it. 569 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 6: And then that's when I got my first acting job, 570 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 6: and and then my first series regular, which was awesome. 571 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 3: Tell us about that. 572 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: What was what? 573 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 2: What do you remember about your first audition, your first 574 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: book job? 575 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: What was it? 576 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the first one was called Jack's Place, but 577 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 6: my the big first one for me was against It 578 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 6: was called Against the Grain. He was with Ben Affleck 579 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 6: and he was my brother, and Robin Lively and John Terry, 580 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 6: Donna Bullock. Like. It was a great a great cast, 581 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 6: I mean, and it was a football show. It was 582 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 6: I was honestly like, it was a critically acclaimed NBC 583 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 6: show that I mean didn't happen after the first season, 584 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 6: which was a bummer because it was so was like 585 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 6: a football show and it was so good. But you know, 586 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 6: and then Seventh Heaven came out and it was basically 587 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 6: like they just did something right that we didn't do, 588 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 6: I guess, but yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. That 589 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 6: was my first like real memory and then you know, 590 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 6: it was lucky to work a bit. You know, I 591 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 6: still do occasionally when I'm I think kids right now 592 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 6: are my focus? How to do more than one thing 593 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 6: at one time? 594 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about social studies too. I 595 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: remember you doing social studies. 596 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. That that was a show right back. 597 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 6: To back Tuesdays. You that was that was said, That 598 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 6: was upn It was great. My biggest memory of that 599 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 6: was Film next Door to Milisha and like Brandy, I 600 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 6: don't know, there was like all these fun shows and 601 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 6: Sabrina and that was fun. That was actually the days 602 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 6: the that I did your yes because the hair it 603 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 6: was like funny. I really had fun with that show. 604 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 6: That was like a height like a I wasn't high school. 605 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 6: We were in you know, like junior high sixteen, yeah, 606 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 6: junior high high school sixteen. 607 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I. 608 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 6: Guess it was high school. And it was just really fun. 609 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 6: It was it was wild because we we we got that. 610 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 6: We did that. I did the pilot of it, and 611 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: then they got this big meeting together after the pilot, 612 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 6: and then we got picked up and they started recasting 613 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 6: the whole show, and I was like, oh my gosh, 614 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 6: oh no, and they faintly kept me, but they recasted 615 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 6: I guess older they went with the people. I guess 616 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 6: that the original I don't even remember, but it was 617 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 6: like really young. I looked way older than everyone. I 618 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 6: guess we were all the same age though, must have 619 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 6: been those paths they kept patting me with. They continue 620 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 6: to do it in every show I was ever in, 621 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 6: Like in bra. 622 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean, yes, I got it. 623 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: I mean I watched the It's World. I was like, okay, 624 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 6: I mean that was what real fake? But you know continued. 625 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: Do you remember was that something you wanted? Was it 626 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: something like you were on? Were you self conscious in 627 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: asking for. 628 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 6: Them or was it I think I might have been 629 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 6: because like at ay right, there was a few episodes 630 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 6: of you know, not episodes literally into situations where like 631 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 6: I had the bra and then the girls would like 632 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 6: show their I mean, it was ridiculous, you know. I 633 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 6: don't know if you remember that, but like no, but anyway, 634 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 6: I I think I was so self conscious of that. 635 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 6: I was pretty bullied. Actually, I was so thankful when 636 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 6: I met you because I feel like I could breathe again, 637 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 6: Like I had a friend, you know, just wasn't mean 638 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 6: and pushing me into park cars and ripping my brow 639 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 6: off so literally. And I'm not exaggering when I say that, 640 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 6: So I might have that might have been. Why But 641 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 6: as I got older and did you know shows when 642 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 6: I was supposed to be like my twenties, they were 643 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 6: then telling me I hated to you know, add more, 644 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 6: which I was totally fine with then, but must have been, 645 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 6: you know, right like now I could care less. I'm like, 646 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 6: you know, they're fine. Now, they're better than they were then. Yeah, 647 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 6: lucky with the kids. But yeah, I don't know. I 648 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 6: think it must have been must have been maybe or 649 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 6: that maybe it was like the cool snotty girls supposed 650 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 6: to have big boots. 651 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: I have no ideas, so funny, I know I have 652 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: memories of that being a thing too, But in the reverse. 653 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: I remember I worked on something where someone was supposed 654 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: to be a teenager was a teenager and they felt 655 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: like her chest was too big, and so they bound 656 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: her with an ace bandage in order to look smaller. 657 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: And so I do remember that being like a topic 658 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: of conversation, and I was just wondering, like, in your case, 659 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: you really noticed it on boy Meet's World. I did 660 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: not notice it. I can I just I did not 661 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: notice in any way. It didn't look fake to me. 662 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 6: I didn't. 663 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: I didn't pay any attention to it, but you obviously 664 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: noticed it. And so I was wondering, is that something 665 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: that you came with an insecurity and were like, listen, 666 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: let's give me a little quote unquote help in this area, 667 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: or if it was just something discussed. Maybe it was 668 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: a combination of it. 669 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. I mean I was always like, yeah, 670 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 6: I give me more, the more, the better, you know, 671 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 6: But I don't feel that way now. But but yeah, 672 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 6: that was uh yeah, it's just wild how how like 673 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 6: things little things had happened in school can really just 674 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 6: like follow through with you for so long. Yeah, possibly 675 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 6: forever unless you deal with it. But luckily I dealt 676 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 6: with it, and now I just think it's funny right 677 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 6: now you can joke about it. Oh yeah, because I 678 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 6: could like probably remember the bra too. I mean. 679 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 4: It was thick. 680 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 6: I mean I want to go back. 681 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 4: I want to go back to your dad for a second, 682 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: just because I'm so curious, like, and I've been asking 683 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 4: other people this question lately, which is because my son 684 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: is very much like a performer and he's like lovely 685 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: acting and whatnot, and I'm like, my wife and I 686 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: are both actors, and I just don't know how to 687 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: like help him or talk to him. Did your dad 688 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 4: ever like talk to you about like did he teach 689 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: you how to act? Did he give you notes? Did 690 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 4: he how did how did that relationship work? Or did 691 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 4: he just say let other teachers and directors take care 692 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 4: of this. 693 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 6: It's a really good question, you know. First of all, 694 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 6: I almost want to say congrats, And I'm sorry about 695 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 6: like that, because I always my husband and I always 696 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 6: say like we just really hope they don't want to 697 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 6: get into it and we know the journey and like 698 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 6: how I mean, for a show to go as long 699 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 6: as yours went unheard of, you know, and for it 700 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 6: to be that well known it's it's and I think 701 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 6: that people really think, like I have moms all the time, like, oh, 702 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 6: do you think you can help me get my kids 703 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 6: into acting? Can you get you think we can get 704 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 6: them an agent? And I'm like, I don't even know 705 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 6: where to begin now, but I know that my dad 706 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 6: clearly did not want me to be in the business 707 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 6: until I begged him to the point where he was 708 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 6: like fine, And I I remember vaguely kind of, I think, 709 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 6: meeting with a few agents, and then I ended up 710 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 6: falling into like I think I was with Iris Burton first. Wow, 711 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 6: remember that name, but. 712 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: She was legendary, legendary. 713 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 6: Yes, she was wonderful. But he did coach me a lot. 714 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 6: He did help me. He's a wonderful coach, and but 715 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 6: also very like critical, like I would watch them and 716 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 6: be like and he's like, yeah that I mean, you 717 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 6: just weren't listening or you weren't like really helpful. Especially 718 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 6: as an adult too now, like gosh, those were things 719 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 6: I like to carry over because there's nothing worse in 720 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 6: watching an actor who's just like not listening and they're 721 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 6: just like throwing out their lines and they're not connected. 722 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 6: And obviously I was super young then, But I feel 723 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 6: like as I got older, I noticed, you know, roles, 724 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 6: and I didn't like what I did. And I was like, oh, 725 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 6: and you know, I studied with Warner Laughlin. So to 726 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 6: answer your question, studied, I mean Warner Laughlin is like 727 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 6: my go to coach, Like I coach with her forever 728 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 6: and still do from time to time, even just like 729 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 6: on the phone. But yeah, my dad will help me. 730 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 6: My sister sometimes will run stuff. You know, I'll if 731 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 6: I have a friend, like I mean a couple of friends, 732 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 6: Like a lot of people have moved to Nashville, which 733 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 6: is wild, so I'll like work with them on stuff sometimes. 734 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: But because that's where you live now, or any. 735 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 6: Of you here, I know you're not. 736 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: No, no, we are not. 737 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: Actually you mentioned your sister, so I want to te 738 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: talk a little bit about your siblings, because your brother 739 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: went on to become a very successful songwriter, and your 740 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: sister is also an actress best known for doing dance 741 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: moves I wish I could do. 742 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: She was in the Step Up of Movies, two of. 743 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 5: The two of the more important ones of the of 744 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 5: the of the series of four, She's in Step Up 745 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 5: to the Streets. 746 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: In the fourth one. 747 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 6: Actually, I think Fifth one loves Step Up, really loves it. 748 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 4: Any of them their their life. 749 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: It's really want to Yeah, I mean Step Up two. 750 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 5: When when we meet Moose in two, it really kind 751 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 5: of changes the entire amazing tire ball game. 752 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, for all those movies, you got no idea. 753 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he really. 754 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 6: Loves my sister dancing together one time. 755 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 5: No, I don't dance at all a matter of fact, 756 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 5: I'm completely and totally opposed to it. 757 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: But the films are wonderful, yeah, which is really all 758 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: that matters. Yeah, they're great. 759 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell us a little bit about your sister, Brianna, 760 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: your brother Jason Evgan. 761 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 3: Okay, you guys are very you're an entertainment family. We are. 762 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 6: We definitely are. My my brother, I'll start with my brother. 763 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 6: He he is, but they're both my younger brother. Younger 764 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 6: brother and sister. My brother is kind of started off 765 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 6: in a band and and you know. 766 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: Just really want to tell us about the band. 767 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 6: He was in the After Midnight Project, but they were 768 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 6: first Illusion and then you know he I think at 769 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 6: some point he kind of just realized like this isn't 770 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 6: I mean, he was signed and then unsigned, like Jack 771 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 6: Osborne signed him, and he was doing a little bit 772 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 6: here and there, and then I think one day he 773 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 6: really really realized, like, I'm going to try and catalog 774 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 6: my music and see what happens. And he did, and 775 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 6: he did some Disney stuff and then he got his 776 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 6: first big because he's a writer and a producer and 777 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 6: a phenomenal singer and can do every instrument. I mean, 778 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 6: he's truly like a brilliant He's like a he's like 779 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 6: a genius when it comes to so yeah, he's like 780 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 6: a genetic defect. I don't understand. Yeah, he so heart attack. 781 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 6: But that Demi Lovado sings was like, I feel like 782 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 6: the one that got him on the map really and 783 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 6: then and then it followed with like, you know, talked 784 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 6: Dirty to Me, that Jason Derula song, and then a 785 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 6: slew of incredible Room five songs, and then he's got 786 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 6: like he's I mean, he's I feel like if you 787 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 6: name a person's he's wrote or he's. 788 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 3: Worked with my dear friend Sabrina Carpenter, yes he has. Yeah. 789 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 6: And then him and his wife started their own little 790 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 6: project called Elephant Part, which is phenomenal. I mean, it's 791 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 6: like the best music your kids can listen to it too, 792 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 6: because it's just wonderful. Me she just wanted to dance. 793 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 6: It's so happy. And then my sister, you know, she 794 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 6: was an dancer and went to Campbell Hall and literally 795 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 6: was like doing a recital and this guy named Matt 796 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 6: just love her and decided to manage We wanted to 797 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 6: manage her and got her an audition for a Step 798 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 6: Up and she missed our family Hawaii trip for it 799 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 6: and this better, this better be a better payoff. Yeah, 800 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 6: because you're not you're not an actress, like this was 801 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 6: your first you know, it was literally like her first 802 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 6: thing ever, and she was just a natural, absolutely, like 803 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 6: as you know. 804 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 5: And I think, uh, I think if memory serves, the 805 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,479 Speaker 5: Step Up movies were produced by David Nixy, who's Early 806 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 5: nick Say's dad. 807 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 6: Yeah. 808 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so Lily nix Say's dad produced all the Step 809 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 5: Up movies. 810 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, we are all so connected. 811 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, really small world. 812 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, and John Chu directed to I believe, and maybe 813 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 6: all of them, I don't know, and he's so talented. 814 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 3: So yeah. 815 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 6: And now my sister is actually in Africa. She lived 816 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 6: in Africa and she lives in Zimbabwe and she is 817 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 6: married with a child, and they are this amazing force. 818 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 6: Just they have a documentary coming out. They're doing so 819 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 6: much basically just to they're working on creating sustainable living 820 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 6: for people that I mean, it all kind of flows together. 821 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 6: It's really hard to explain in a nutshell and I 822 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 6: can't do it. But she's just making a huge difference 823 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 6: over there. 824 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: Right now, and I'm so proud of amazing. 825 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 6: Yes, and she was only supposed to go during COVID 826 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 6: for like a year and a half or two years, 827 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 6: and then she found met her husband, who's wonderful and 828 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 6: he's the reason women are allowed to be rangers in Africa. 829 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 6: He started something there and he preserves all this land. 830 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 6: So they're just an incredible couple. And yeah, and I 831 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 6: really miss her, but she is coming back out here 832 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 6: in November. Abundant Village is her thing, and she's doing 833 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 6: a lot of a lot of talks and you know, 834 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 6: just fundraising like public speaking, speaking and getting people familiar 835 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 6: with what she's doing. So yeah, wow, that's cool. And 836 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 6: they're my best friends, both of them. They're just great humans. 837 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 6: So that's the most import In part. 838 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 2: Going back a little bit before when we were talking 839 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 2: about against the Grain and Social Studies, two shows that 840 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: could have been massive, huge breaks, but then were life 841 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: was cut short, as they so often are with shows 842 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 2: that just get yanked off the air before they're really 843 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: given a chance. 844 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: Do you remember one was that heartbreaking for you? And two? 845 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: Did your dad have any advice or like, what did 846 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: your dad say to you then when that happened and 847 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: you were probably devastated. 848 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's always hard. It's always hard when you 849 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 6: when you get canned or canceled or you know, all 850 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 6: picked up or it was hard. Especially the Against the 851 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 6: Grain one was hard because it was like critically acclaimed. 852 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 6: They were like NBC's it's like their favorite show and 853 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 6: it's gonna you know, it's it's gonna be huge, blah 854 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 6: blah blah. And I'm a kid, so I'm just thinking, great, 855 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 6: you believe it's so young. I think I was twelve 856 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 6: or thirteen maybe, and it was really sad. I mean 857 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 6: I remember because we all just got so close and 858 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 6: Ben was like felt like a brother, and I just 859 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 6: I didn't want to go back to school either because 860 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 6: it was so hard. 861 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted to stay ever forever. 862 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 6: And yeah, it was hard. It was heartbreaking. And and 863 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 6: when Social Studies was canceled too, that was really hard 864 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 6: because I mean that was another one, Like you said that, 865 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,479 Speaker 6: we just they really thought that one was going to work. 866 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 6: And I don't really know what happened. And you know, 867 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 6: anytime you're you just it's just hard. 868 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. 869 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 6: My dad's advice was just keep going. If you love it, 870 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 6: don't give up. And it's it's a business that's going 871 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 6: to either it's going to either build you up, break 872 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 6: you down, or crush you and you won't be able 873 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 6: to do it. So you have to be strong enough 874 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 6: to stay in it or you got to quit. And 875 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 6: I'm like, and not quit, but just like walk away 876 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 6: and do You always said find something you love to 877 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 6: do that you're good at, that you can make money at. 878 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 6: And I'm like, okay, I think I'm pretty good at it. 879 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 6: I can make money at this. I love it, but 880 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 6: I you know, you know what it's like, it's like 881 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 6: up and down, like I watched my dad and my 882 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 6: sister and I will all so I always say, any 883 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 6: job is a blessing and exciting and I'm like, you 884 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 6: never know when you're gonna be back on set again. Yeah, 885 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 6: I love I mean, I love it. I think it's 886 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 6: so fun. 887 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: Do you have any memories of young Ben Affleck. 888 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, Yeah. He was a cute one still is wild. 889 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 6: How I mean to think Ben just I mean I can't. 890 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 6: I mean, he's like he's been Jen Low or whatever 891 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 6: Ben j that even I heard of that. I love it. Yeah, 892 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, my memory is my guardian because my 893 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 6: parents were trying to like take my sister places. My 894 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 6: dad was working, my mom, you know, all of us, 895 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 6: and I'm on the show, and my brother was like 896 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 6: on a traveling hockey league. So this Kelly was our 897 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 6: babysitter and she was eighteen I think, or she's like 898 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 6: twenty one, I would say, and I think just head 899 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 6: over heels for him, and I just it was just 900 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 6: that was my biggest memory because I was like too young. 901 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 6: I always like thought he'd really cute. 902 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 2: And probably had a crush on him, right, but he 903 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: was like a big brother more than someone. 904 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. Uh huh. He actually is the reason I started 905 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 6: a really weird habit that I still do. And my 906 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 6: sister and brother and my parents will notice it, but 907 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 6: I'll and you probably remember it, Danielle, maybe but I go. 908 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 3: Like, yes, okay, yes, your little mouth thing you do. 909 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's like a rabbit. I'm actually smelling my breath. 910 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 6: But one day on set I was just doing that, 911 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,959 Speaker 6: like not really knowing what I was doing, and Ben 912 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 6: was like, are you what are you doing? You look 913 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 6: like a little rabbit. What are you doing? I was like, 914 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 6: I don't know, and I literally I'm not kidding with you. 915 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 6: It became the worst habit. I just started doing it because. 916 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 2: How are you doing You're blowing mouth, You're blo out 917 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: of you. 918 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 3: To smell your breath. 919 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, And it didn't start that way, but now now 920 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 6: it's actually like a really interesting way to tell if 921 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 6: your breath smells. My brother would be like, you're doing it, 922 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 6: you're because then it got to the point where I 923 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 6: would literally be doing it in the middle of a scene. 924 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 925 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 6: You know when someone points something out's how they say 926 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 6: to your don't oh yeah, not your kids are doing 927 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 6: is they're going to keep doing it and like ignore 928 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 6: everything they do that's not right. 929 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 4: There? 930 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 2: Aff Yeah, yeah, did you watch your Boy Meets World 931 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 2: episode when it aired on? Like, did you did the 932 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 2: whole family gather around and watch your episode. 933 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure we all did, like I'm 934 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 6: I mean, and if you weren't there, we must I 935 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 6: must have had like I don't know, we had to 936 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 6: have done something. I know we definitely watched it, Like, 937 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure it was very exciting that it was, 938 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 6: you know, coming on and you. 939 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: Know, well, as as everyone knows, Jensen and I also 940 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: went to high school together. So Jensen knew you as 941 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 2: you guys were friends as teenagers, and Jensen swears that 942 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 2: you two watched a social studies episode over the phone 943 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 2: together probably, by the way, was a thing you did. 944 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 4: The most I've ever heard. Yeah, let's watch a TV 945 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 4: show one of us and talk about it. 946 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 3: Yes, while on the phone together. 947 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 6: It was hilarious. Yes, I mean those were the good 948 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 6: old days when you pick up the phone and like 949 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 6: actually talk to people. Yeah, I mean I don't sorry, Jensen, 950 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 6: I don't remember that that well. But I remember we 951 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 6: were friends. Well that's good friends. And then when I 952 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 6: and then when I found out you guys got married, 953 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 6: I was like, thank god, just it's so nice when 954 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 6: you see like people finding each other that are yes 955 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 6: and love and all that. 956 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, so as we mentioned you now live in Nashville, 957 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: just an absolutely beautiful family living what could only be 958 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 2: described is what looks like a Hallmark movie shot on 959 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 2: a farm. Your property is absolutely gorgeous. You are always 960 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 2: your photos look just every but you're also so real. 961 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: Especially over the last couple of years, Vanessa has really 962 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: embraced I think after years of feeling a lot of 963 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 2: pressure to live like a quote unquote perfect life visually 964 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 2: of a certain aesthetic on Instagram, Vanessa realized the damaging 965 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 2: effect that was having on her own mental health and 966 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: figured if it's affecting her mental health, it's probably affecting 967 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 2: other people's and she did not want to contribute to 968 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 2: the furtherance of it. And so you kind of adjusted 969 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 2: what you post, and now you post very sometimes absolutely 970 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 2: gorgeous photos and wonderful things, but they're also you post 971 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 2: very relatable topics, and you have very relatable humor, and 972 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 2: you show what your life is really like as a 973 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 2: mom of two still work. As you mentioned you you 974 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 2: recently did a movie not that long ago. Why don't 975 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: you tell us about some of the projects you have 976 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 2: right now and then I'll go back to your home life. 977 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 6: Well, thank you for saying that. It is very important 978 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 6: to me to be real. 979 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 5: I I. 980 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 6: Kind of can't even get on Instagram often anymore because 981 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 6: I'm just like a little Yeah, so I really try 982 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 6: to try to be very real and right now I 983 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 6: just post what I feel like. It's pretty out. It's 984 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 6: flowers that are blooming and so pretty and I planted 985 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 6: them from seeds. But yes, I'll go back to that. 986 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 6: But I did. I've done a couple things since I 987 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 6: had kids, but not a ton. I was really thankful. 988 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 6: I did a Western in I think it was like 989 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 6: twenty twenty one. 990 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I was talking about. 991 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 6: That was that was really really awesome. That was one 992 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 6: of my favorite, probably one of my favorite jobs. I 993 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 6: side for point means world of course because it will. 994 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 6: It filmed in Nashville, and I was like the lead 995 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 6: female in it and it was just me and a 996 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 6: bunch of men on horseback with rifles and. 997 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 4: It's cool cool. 998 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. So and it took place you know, in the 999 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 6: I don't know, late some time before you know anything. 1000 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 6: So we are all there all nineteen early nineteen hundreds 1001 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 6: or eighteen. 1002 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 5: Okay, yes, probably the probably around the if it was 1003 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 5: a Western, you're probably around the eighteen sixties. 1004 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:33,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for being smarter century late eighteen hundred, eighteen hundreds. 1005 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, I mean I get it, but like, 1006 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 6: I definitely didn't have that an eighteen hundreds of a 1007 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 6: few things there. Well, it wasn't like a million twenty 1008 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 6: million dollar movie where the people were like, Okay, we 1009 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,439 Speaker 6: got to move all these. 1010 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 4: Things out of the world. 1011 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 5: Right. The cowboys are talking to each other on cell phones? 1012 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 6: Right, how can I not put this movie into a 1013 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 6: comedy though I don't really do things like hormal, I 1014 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 6: don't know, but it was so fun and I got 1015 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,240 Speaker 6: to get my kids were in it, which was so cool, 1016 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 6: and my husband, which is the ultimate, like he literally 1017 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 6: got so into the role. It was maybe fifteen second role. 1018 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 3: He hit a fifteen second cameo. 1019 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, he gets killed, but he went method yes, and 1020 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 6: he gets shot off the horse by sorry if I'm 1021 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 6: reading the movie. Spoiler is such a brilliant movie that 1022 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 6: you don't know no trace Atkins, who's a song country singer, Yeah, 1023 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 6: a country singer, Yeah, rides up on a horse and 1024 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 6: shoots him. And my husband is a horse. He rides horses, 1025 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 6: And that wasn't meant to be in the movie. But 1026 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 6: I told the director. I was like, hey, Mike, you know, 1027 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 6: my husband's actually really good rider, and he probably loved 1028 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 6: to like ride in on it, so he kind of 1029 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 6: changed the whole thing around for him. And he runs, 1030 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 6: he trots up like gets in the fight, gets shot, 1031 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 6: and he falls off the horse himself, does the stunt, 1032 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 6: doesn't Adlise. He's got to do it probably fifty times 1033 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 6: because you know, it's a movie, like, and he was 1034 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 6: like doing the thing like where you're like on the 1035 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 6: ground something and he couldn't walk for like a week 1036 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 6: after that. I mean, it was good. He looks great 1037 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 6: and the kids were so adorable in it, and that 1038 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 6: was really it was so fun and yeah, so that 1039 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 6: was like the most recent thing I did. And I 1040 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 6: feel like I've been kind of like my agent will 1041 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 6: send the auditions and I just am like, yeah, maybe 1042 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 6: I'll be like put myself on for that one. But 1043 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 6: I I just like would never want to turn a 1044 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 6: job down, right, So if I were to just happen 1045 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 6: to get it, I would never want to be like 1046 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 6: I can't. Yeah, I was gonna get it, but just 1047 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 6: you know, when I was like I'm gonna. 1048 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 2: And if it shoots in Nashville. That makes it a 1049 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 2: lot easier for you than having to travel for. 1050 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 6: It because it's in Atlanta or Nashville, you know, working 1051 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 6: sometimes California just kind of depends on what it is. 1052 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 4: So just nothing shooting in California anymore. 1053 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a Georgia, I know it is. It really is, 1054 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 6: and it's you know so and they just need to 1055 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 6: get it here now too. I feel like so many 1056 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 6: people have moved here. It's crazy, I know. Yeah. 1057 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 4: I feel like all of La just left from Nashville 1058 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 4: in the last ten years. 1059 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 6: I know, Jason Priestley, Melissa, everybody was like all like, 1060 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 6: so Shane West just moved here, which I just found 1061 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 6: a picture of us together. 1062 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 2: All Oh, yeah, me too. I've got a great picture 1063 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,439 Speaker 2: of you, Me and Shane West those days. 1064 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 6: Corbyn and Corbyn, Oh my gosh, we have the short 1065 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 6: things that the belly rings. Oh my god, oh gosh. 1066 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 3: I know, did we ever belly buttons piers together? 1067 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 6: And we did? 1068 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 3: We did, That's right, that's right. It was so fun. 1069 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: Either of you still wear belly button piercings? 1070 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 4: No, I didn't think so. 1071 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 3: I committed to mine though for a long time. 1072 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 6: Here's a lot longer than me I had. 1073 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 3: I had mine until I was like thirty. 1074 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 6: We had a lot longer than I thought too. Yeah 1075 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 6: that's mine. Yeah, mine didn't last after a jump? And 1076 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 6: why off of the cliff? Oh yeah, it was pretty rough. 1077 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: So we did it? Get ripped out? 1078 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 1079 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 6: Ish fully, Oh gosh, why did you let her do that? Pam? Like, 1080 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 6: I don't blame mom, Like I was the one that 1081 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 6: like did it. 1082 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 2: So you mentioned that you were able to have your kids, 1083 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 2: Maverick and Bertie Rose in the movie with you. If 1084 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: either of them said that they wanted to pursue a 1085 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 2: career in the entertainment industry, how would you and your 1086 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 2: husband Miles approach it. 1087 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 6: I don't know. I guess I I maybe go along 1088 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 6: that same route my dad did and say like, Okay, 1089 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 6: well let's let's start by getting me in a play 1090 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 6: or something. Yeah, if you do, and really work their 1091 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 6: way up to it. And I'm quite frankly, I don't 1092 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 6: even know, Like I know, I still have an agent. 1093 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 6: I could probably say, hey, you know, could you send 1094 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 6: them out for something or hear? But Maddick's really into 1095 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 6: sports right now, thankfully, I Bertie could, like I wish 1096 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 6: I had her dramatic. I mean, I'm dramatic, but she's 1097 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 6: like next level. I've never seen anything like. I mean 1098 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 6: she can. We're at that point where I don't know, like, 1099 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 6: are you really is this like doing? We need to 1100 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 6: go to the doctor every day, right, do we? Like? 1101 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 6: I mean, the whole thing. But if if anyone were 1102 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 6: to go that way, I would say it might be 1103 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 6: more her, Like, gosh. 1104 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1105 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 6: I really want them to be like lawyers or doctors 1106 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 6: or I don't. 1107 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 4: Know, fishermen, something sensible, no tough one. 1108 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,320 Speaker 2: So let's say you had the chance to tell young 1109 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 2: Vanessa the one we saw on Boy Meets World. And 1110 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 2: let's say you get to tell her one thing about 1111 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 2: your life? Now, what would you What would you tell her? 1112 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 2: If you could go back in time and tell young 1113 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 2: Vanessa something, what would you tell her? 1114 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I feel like that that kind of 1115 00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 6: stuff makes me like cry. I would say, you have 1116 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 6: no idea how great it's going to be. It's hard now, 1117 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 6: and it's nothing. It's it's nothing that you could possibly 1118 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 6: imagine it's going to be. Yeah, Like I couldn't even 1119 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 6: like ever imagine this would be my life. So I would. Yeah, 1120 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 6: I think. 1121 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 3: That's such an important lesson. 1122 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 2: It's such an important lesson because I know it's the 1123 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 2: same thing for me too. 1124 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 3: You know, I thought I had it. 1125 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 2: I thought I was like, you know, I'd go down 1126 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 2: different paths thinking like, well, I have to I have 1127 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 2: to purs like, what's my future going to be? It's 1128 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 2: going to be like this, And you go down that 1129 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 2: route and then you feel like you get a door 1130 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 2: shoved slammed in your face and you're like. 1131 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, but that's what I'm supposed to do. And you're like, oh, 1132 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 3: you know what it's It's not what I'm supposed to do. 1133 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 2: This is what I'm supposed to do, and then that 1134 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 2: door slams in your face and you're like, well now 1135 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 2: I feel so super lost and it must be me 1136 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 2: and something's wrong with me, and and it's actually that No, 1137 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 2: you're not supposed to know what it's going to be, 1138 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 2: and whatever it does end up being is going to 1139 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 2: be beyond anything you're capable of imagining for yourself. So 1140 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 2: stop worrying about it so much. Stop trying to manipulate it, 1141 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 2: stop trying to control it. Stop trying to shove a 1142 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 2: square peg into a round hole and just go live 1143 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 2: the life and enjoy the journey. 1144 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 3: To wherever it takes you. 1145 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 2: So that's such an important lesson, and I'm honored to 1146 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,959 Speaker 2: have been on the journey with you for all these 1147 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:28,879 Speaker 2: years too. 1148 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 6: You're just like anytime I think of you, even my 1149 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 6: Dad's like it's official, but yeah, I mean, yeah, you're 1150 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 6: I mean you're just like all joy when I think 1151 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 6: of you and all of our memories together, and you know, 1152 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 6: even when we get to see each other now in California, 1153 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 6: when I come back and I'm going to see you 1154 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 6: the next time i'm out there, I'm going to come back. 1155 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 3: Okay, yes you are. 1156 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 2: And I also will come visit you in Nashville. I 1157 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 2: want to see your place. 1158 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 6: Yes, definitely. I mean, my Myles jokes all the time 1159 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 6: because I'm like trying to like just give people land. 1160 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,479 Speaker 6: I'm like, we have so much land. You want, you 1161 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 6: can have it, build yourself a home. We'll come out 1162 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,359 Speaker 6: and charge you for the acreage. So just just come. 1163 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 6: We'll just build a community. 1164 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 3: I love it. That's what writer's dream, yeah dream, Yeah, 1165 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 3: communal living. 1166 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 6: Hey, please, I mean come all right, we'll give you 1167 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 6: and your wife would like become fast like, yeah, you know, all. 1168 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 3: Right, thank you so much for being with us. Vanessa. 1169 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 3: It's always so good to see you. 1170 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming and revisiting these these uh these 1171 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 2: teenage years and your time on Boy Meets World with us. 1172 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 2: We appreciate you so much and I look forward to 1173 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 2: seeing you sometime soon. 1174 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 6: Thank you for having me on to see you here. Bye. 1175 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 4: Oh. The fact that she had like it sounded like 1176 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 4: she had like a rough like fifth or sixth grade. 1177 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 4: It's like, and she was so beautiful and like what 1178 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 4: I would have assumed is like the popular girl, you know. 1179 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 4: And the fact that she has like these bullying memories. 1180 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 4: Ye all never know, you never know, you never know, 1181 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 4: you're you're right exactly. But it's so funny because here 1182 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 4: she is getting cast as on our show the popular 1183 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 4: meme girl, because that is kind of her her look 1184 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 4: at that age, you know, you would assume, like, well, 1185 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 4: this girl's fine, like this girl is going to have 1186 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 4: confidence and be told and of course it's just never 1187 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 4: the case. You have no idea what's going on inside. 1188 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Vanessa did. 1189 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 2: She had a very very rough all all of junior 1190 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 2: high was extremely rough for her, and also a significant 1191 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 2: portion of high school, and she was really bullied, and 1192 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's something she I'm so proud of her 1193 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 2: because never ever did her negative experiences in junior high 1194 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 2: school or high school change the kind of person that 1195 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 2: she was. 1196 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 3: She never let it make her angry or jaded or mean. 1197 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 2: She was always just a consistent, bright, beautiful, fun, awesome, 1198 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 2: wonderful person. But the truth is, you know, she she 1199 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 2: turned it inward. She had a lot of pain inside, 1200 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 2: and she had a lot of self doubt, and she 1201 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: had a lot of self esteem stuff. And I don't 1202 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,479 Speaker 2: think I'm talking out of school to say she's worked 1203 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 2: very hard on herself, sure, and it shows. It's one 1204 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 2: of the reasons why I mentioned her social media because 1205 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 2: when you do go to it and you see her, 1206 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 2: she's very open about, you know, struggling with body image 1207 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 2: and self image and figuring out how social media plays 1208 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 2: into her life is in a way of being able 1209 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 2: to share with friends and family, but also not contributing 1210 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 2: to something that seems fake. And so it's very she's 1211 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 2: just she's an open book. And I just love and 1212 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 2: appreciate and respect her so much, and I'm truly lucky 1213 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 2: to have known her for all the years that I 1214 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 2: have and I'll never I'll never not be in touch 1215 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 2: within us, just that they actually have, you know, I 1216 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 2: don't know, but she has said give it away. 1217 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 4: I have at least like one hundred, one hundred and 1218 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,959 Speaker 4: fifty eight years. It's a horse ranch. It's an actual 1219 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 4: horse ranch. 1220 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 2: And she's got a farm and she's got Yeah, I mean, 1221 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 2: from what I understand, it's like a city. It's a 1222 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 2: city of acreage, California. 1223 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 4: Guys. 1224 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, she is. 1225 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: She and her husband owned Tenna. There you go. 1226 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 2: Thank you all for joining us for this episode of 1227 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 2: Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on 1228 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 2: Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can send us your 1229 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 2: emails pod meets World Show at gmail dot com and 1230 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 2: we have merch. 1231 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 1: It's official March. I love it. 1232 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 3: Pod Meets Worldshow dot com writer send us out. 1233 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 4: We love you all, pod dismissed. 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