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Speaker 1: And if you don't have a good, just group of

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Speaker 1: The stakes are real. Effective preparation starts the fitness, but

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Speaker 1: it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience,

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Speaker 3: And competition to hunting in the back huntry.

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Speaker 1: This is in Pursuit brought to you by Mouth Knocks

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Speaker 1: in collaboration with Mayhem Hunt Action Speed. Did you guys

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Speaker 1: see the fifty yard pin thing I sent. We gotta

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it makes sense, but it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Of those parts. All right. Zach Seeler was our last guest.

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Speaker 3: It's Spike Camp episode three. Spike Camp three, Spike Camp three.

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Speaker 3: I guess we're numbering these man. That was, Uh, it's

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Speaker 3: But Scott's Scott's Anniversary.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know how people are like, I hate when

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Speaker 6: Louisiana, but it gets played on LSU. Nobody goes.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was. I have a degree in exercise

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Speaker 4: tell them what to.

443
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Speaker 2: Do, but you could have like you could have your

444
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Speaker 2: big athletes and then your skills athletes, like you could

445
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Speaker 2: all do it. You all would benefit from like a

446
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 2: sled push workout where these guys might push heavy sled

447
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Speaker 2: for five seconds, you might push a light sled for

448
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Speaker 2: fifteen seconds because you you know, you're going all the

449
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Speaker 2: way down the field. And then you guys, just if

450
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Speaker 2: you had all those positions, you just rotate through because

451
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Speaker 2: you're all needing that power output where you're needing a

452
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Speaker 2: little bit different power output. So it's I mean, and

453
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Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of them do that, Like I

454
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Speaker 2: know a lot of them push sleds, They squad, they

455
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 2: power clean like it looks very similar, Like when you

456
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Speaker 2: go into a across a gym or strength and conditioning gym,

457
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 2: now they look very similar, Like you have squat racks,

458
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Speaker 2: free weight area, dumbbells, barbells, and like machines and I

459
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: mean and ghds and stuff like. It all looks really

460
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 2: similar now, and I think like that's a huge wave

461
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Speaker 2: of this of CrossFit really started just like being able

462
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Speaker 2: to train like athletes and like strength strength and conditioning athletes,

463
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Speaker 2: because I think there's I think there's benefit to that.

464
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Speaker 2: And then also getting on the cross a side, like

465
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Speaker 2: more aerobic style workouts that are mixed modals, different movements

466
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Speaker 2: and like endurant stuff like what he was doing like

467
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Speaker 2: for Leadville. So like, I think it's good to touch

468
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Speaker 2: all of them, just like you was saying, with different

469
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Speaker 2: themes in mind.

470
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Speaker 1: I think it's you know, to take that piece of

471
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Speaker 1: what they're doing where you're kind of specializing in.

472
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Speaker 3: Your body type or whatever.

473
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Speaker 1: Really that's what's happening with those guys because some are

474
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Speaker 1: genetically yeah, you know, you're just different, right, So I

475
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Speaker 1: think something to take away for anybody listening that you

476
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Speaker 1: know isn't doing Maham hunt or a set program maybe

477
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Speaker 1: like you could have tests in there. And that's one

478
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Speaker 1: of the things that I think is so valuable with CrossFit.

479
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Speaker 3: You know, we have the.

480
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Speaker 1: Benchmark workouts or hero workouts, So like take a workout

481
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Speaker 1: that you can is a short, fast type workout what

482
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Speaker 1: for lack of better terms for us just to speak

483
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Speaker 1: to what we do.

484
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Speaker 3: Take FRAN.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't think a whole your whole workout should

486
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Speaker 1: be FRAN. For a lot of guys, maybe five to

487
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Speaker 1: six minutes. You know, the fastest times in the world

488
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Speaker 1: is like two, right, So that you would that would

489
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Speaker 1: be a good test of like, hey, where's my power

490
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Speaker 1: output in a short, relatively quick time frame. And then

491
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Speaker 1: you could take a test like Murphy, which is one

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Speaker 1: hundred pull ups I mean one mile run, undre pull ups,

493
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Speaker 1: two undred push ups three hundred two I hate.

494
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Speaker 3: That, and then a one mile run.

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Speaker 1: It's just called Murph. And then what I would say

496
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Speaker 1: on the other end is you could do a one

497
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Speaker 1: at max squat, a deadlift, a power clean something like that.

498
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Speaker 1: So you in those three workouts we would call them

499
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Speaker 1: tests if you're actually testing to see where your fin

500
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Speaker 1: is at which one of my deficient and if you're

501
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Speaker 1: if you can power clean over as a man two

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Yeah, that's plenty right, Like obviously, sure, that's

503
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Speaker 1: an outlier like above, that is your functional on two

504
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Speaker 1: twenty five. Sure, if your fran time with strict pull

505
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Speaker 1: or with a full range of motion pull ups, if

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Speaker 1: you're sub six five ish six, you're doing pretty good.

507
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Speaker 1: If you're doing strict then five or six is really

508
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Speaker 1: goodly good. Yeah, if you're kipping or flailing around doing fake.

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Speaker 4: Pull ups, under five would be really Under five is

510
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Speaker 4: really good.

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Speaker 1: Under four if you're kipping but full range of motion,

512
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Speaker 1: I don't care if you use your hips whatever. But

513
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Speaker 1: and then on murph, if you're sub an hour an

514
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Speaker 1: hour and fifty fifty minutes to an hour, you've got

515
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Speaker 1: a pretty good base of fitness there. Uh, And I

516
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Speaker 1: would say you're pretty well rounded for general, like you're

517
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Speaker 1: not trying to compete, not trying to do anything, You're

518
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Speaker 1: trying to be ready for the mountains. Those are three

519
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: pretty good tests. There's actually a couple of good ones

520
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Speaker 1: you could put in. I mean in the beginning or

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Speaker 1: in the for the one ret max, I would say

522
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Speaker 1: a squad one front front back deadlift clean Yeah, I

523
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Speaker 1: like all of those, all the squad of the power

524
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Speaker 1: clean in my opinion, but all those are a good

525
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Speaker 1: test for that middle one. I would say a say,

526
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Speaker 1: fran if you want to do handstand push ups. Some

527
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Speaker 1: people probably don't want to do that, but like handstand

528
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Speaker 1: push ups, Diane would be a good one.

529
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Speaker 3: You could even do like.

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Speaker 1: Deadlift and Burpy over bar fifteen nine, like something that.

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Speaker 2: You can and you can like we're talking about name

532
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Speaker 2: workouts because they're easy to eas Yeah, but you can

533
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Speaker 2: just if you if you wanted to, you could just

534
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Speaker 2: choose a workout that like if it could be twenty

535
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Speaker 2: one fifty nine power cleans and Burbies over the bar,

536
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Speaker 2: like you could choose that and that's like that's your thing,

537
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: you go back to. Yeah, so it doesn't have to

538
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: be one of these, but it's easy because you just

539
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Speaker 2: look on the internet and there's like.

540
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Speaker 4: These are tests and you can and you know what

541
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Speaker 4: a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Measurable, observable, repeatable, in the words of Gray Glass one, yeah,

543
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Speaker 1: level one like we have to have we have to

544
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Speaker 1: be able to measure and like true to a standard, right,

545
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: there needs to be something that like not half range

546
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Speaker 1: of motion, pull ups, not half range of motion push

547
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Speaker 1: ups or squats, like you got to have some type

548
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Speaker 1: of standard so that's measurable. You have to watch it,

549
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Speaker 1: see it be able to write a time down and

550
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Speaker 1: then repeatable so then you can always come back to

551
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Speaker 1: it and and define, hey am I getting fitter? Am

552
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Speaker 1: I getting worse? And so you know something mid range

553
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Speaker 1: and then I think FRAN is just a great overall test.

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Speaker 1: Great or sorry Murphy, Yeah, I mean ten k is

555
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: another good way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't have to have you know, if we.

557
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Speaker 4: Have like a five k rock on on the program,

558
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Speaker 4: that's another to go back to.

559
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Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, you just need to

560
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Speaker 1: look at and take these data points of like all right,

561
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Speaker 1: how am I doing in my strength?

562
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Speaker 3: How am I doing in.

563
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Speaker 1: This kind of mid range power outputtish? And then how

564
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Speaker 1: am I doing aerobically? And then you know, how are

565
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Speaker 1: those over and am I leaning more towards one way?

566
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Speaker 1: How do I pick up on this back end of

567
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Speaker 1: or front end of getting stronger?

568
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Speaker 3: Right?

569
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Speaker 1: You know, if you're so far and so good aerobically,

570
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Speaker 1: why not like you're so far and even like within

571
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Speaker 1: your hunting group or your buddies, is like if you're

572
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Speaker 1: so far ahead aerobically and somebody else is so far

573
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Speaker 1: ahead of you strength wise, then like, hey, you could

574
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Speaker 1: sacrifice a little of your aerobic to get stronger and

575
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Speaker 1: it makes you a better overall athlete, or vice versa.

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Speaker 1: You're so strong that you can't keep up and you're

577
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Speaker 1: the one holding the group back, then yeah, you need.

578
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Speaker 4: To work on let your strength go just a little bit.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

580
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Speaker 1: So and that's I meant at the essence, at the

581
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Speaker 1: like root of CrossFit, that's what it all it's all about,

582
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Speaker 1: is like being this like not specialist in any of

583
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Speaker 1: these three areas but kind of blended between all of

584
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Speaker 1: them to be good.

585
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just for anyone listening that we do. We

586
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Speaker 2: do have like a week of benchmarks we do on

587
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Speaker 2: Mayham Hunt about every year or six months or so.

588
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Speaker 4: Kind of lets you get back to.

589
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Speaker 2: Them that run, run, squad, squat and I would just

590
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Speaker 2: thinking about that one.

591
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Speaker 4: That one's hard work.

592
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Speaker 3: Really hard.

593
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Speaker 4: Yeah we do that.

594
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are there's a bunch of different and then

596
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: there's like a shooting test in there, and then there's

597
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: there's the rock We have some really and then we

598
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: have a power up put one with the bench and

599
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Speaker 2: the and the sandbag clean.

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Speaker 4: So like we we've.

601
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Speaker 2: Thought about that and when we wrote those and think

602
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Speaker 2: about like the hunter in general. So if you want

603
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Speaker 2: to on Mayham Hunt, we do that. So if you

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Speaker 2: don't want to have to go and look up your

605
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Speaker 2: own and figure out how to do on your own,

606
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Speaker 2: we already have a like a pretty good idea of

607
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Speaker 2: what good times are or what you should be able

608
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Speaker 2: to do, and we will program it, you know, just

609
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Speaker 2: periodical periodically maybe after like after hunting season when you

610
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Speaker 2: feel like you aren't your fit, where you missed the

611
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: most days and you've missed probably the most strength.

612
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: Gives us a baseline to see where we're at.

613
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, where you're at, and then maybe going into hunting

614
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Speaker 2: season you can see, okay, well like last year during

615
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Speaker 2: hunting season or before hunting season, like i did the

616
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Speaker 2: five k and this was my time and I'm wanting

617
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Speaker 2: to be maybe two minutes faster than that, Like I've

618
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Speaker 2: done the training. So yeah, there's like we program that

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Speaker 2: so you don't have to don't have to think through

620
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Speaker 2: it on your own. Yeah, take a lot of the

621
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Speaker 2: guestwork out and what you said about you said this

622
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Speaker 2: earlier about like your what you did for training the

623
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Speaker 2: other day is literally like what a day on the

624
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: program looks like you and it may be in a

625
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Speaker 2: different order, but like there's right now we're going into

626
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Speaker 2: like some some zone two programming, like some lower heart

627
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: rate kind of building that out, starting out sustained effort,

628
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: starting out like a twenty to thirty minutes and building

629
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Speaker 2: up to about an hour, but every five minutes or

630
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: so during that you're going to do a hard power

631
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Speaker 2: output thing like a sled push or a sprint and

632
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: just to train that. Like that's very sports specific for us,

633
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: where like you are moving all day long and kind

634
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: of like what you're saying with Matt, where you guys

635
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: are grinding and then like you need to be able

636
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: to settle your heart rate or you need to be

637
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: able to like, hey, like the wind's about to switch,

638
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: we need to be over there, like those outco over there,

639
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: we need to move and like we have to move quick.

640
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: We've been grinding for four hours now, Like you have

641
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: to be able to move quick and not like just

642
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: freaking cramp up and lay.

643
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Speaker 4: On the side of the mountain.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so we do that, and then there's like

645
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Speaker 2: a I mean every day there's always like just a

646
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: regular CrossFit GPP workout somewhere between you know, anywhere between

647
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: seven and twenty minutes or so, and then there's usually

648
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: strength work. Right now, the strength work is a little

649
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: bit lower volume because it's not like our oh you're

650
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Speaker 2: doing for each other volume. Yeah, we're kind of we're

651
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: loading into that zone too, and that that longer aerobic

652
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: stuff because of the time of year we're in, so

653
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: exactly what you said, and then we have like some

654
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: accessory or some shoulder health or some knee health or

655
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: just or body building afterwards. So it's like there's usually

656
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: about three parts, three or four parts to each day.

657
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: And literally what you just said that you that you

658
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Speaker 2: did without knowing that I mean, which you do now,

659
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: but you did that on your own. You programmed something

660
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Speaker 2: that looks exactly like the days we're doing. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just and that's probably is just because

662
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Speaker 2: our history is yeah, trained together is so long.

663
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: I've raised you. You have outside influences now, but when

664
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: you were young.

665
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Speaker 4: I had like one, maybe two influences.

666
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 6: Darren Darren, speaking of movement standards, did you see Kennedy

667
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 6: and I did.

668
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: I want to do? I want to I want to

669
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: do that, make make America healthy again. Test. But yeah,

670
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: there needs to be some type of standard to it.

671
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all for, hey, let's get get everybody back

672
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: and healthy, and you know, should be basics.

673
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, there needs to be a little bit of a standard.

674
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: I think they were like, you can split it up.

675
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: However, you wants fifty pull ups, one hundred push ups,

676
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: but they're like under ten minutes.

677
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: Under ten oh, thank you five We said under five five.

678
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: But like that, you watch some people and we have

679
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: a guy that's super critical in on standards within the

680
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: CrossFit community, and he was ripping the video part, which

681
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: if you're going to assign a time to it, there

682
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: needs to be some type of standard, right. If it's

683
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: just like, hey, get it done, then you can have

684
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more lax. But nobody was locking out

685
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: their pull ups. They didn't say if you could or

686
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: couldn't kip. And then the push ups, chest wasn't touching

687
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: and they weren't extending. It was like the push up

688
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: contest we did the other day with Josh Howerton. You know,

689
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: we were like you got to touch your chest to

690
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: the ground, you got to lock out at the top

691
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: so I had rory count like they wanted to do

692
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: a push up contest, so you had to go down

693
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: and then up and everybody's up, all right down and

694
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: then until failure. I think those things are great. I

695
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: think the standard I would love to see a one

696
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty squats in there. If you made fifty

697
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: one hundred and one fifty, yeah, which.

698
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: Would be Cindy essentially, Yeah, ten rounds of Cindy.

699
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: I've done on something similar to that because I thought, yeah, okay,

700
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: so there was a standard like that in.

701
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: School, the Presidential Fitness Test, which they're bringing back.

702
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: Which I'm and that was. I mean that was when

703
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: I was in school, right, Like, it's not that long ago.

704
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: I think, I think they can they candid.

705
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: I think in fourteen or something when almost started to

706
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: just move, yes.

707
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: Because I remember like some days, like I remember doing

708
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: it maybe once a semester, once a year, and it was.

709
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: Like you had to run a mile.

710
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: They could be a popsicle stick as you ran by,

711
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: like make sure you weren't cheating. You had to run

712
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: a mile, do some set up and reach and I

713
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: was so good at sitting reach.

714
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm for some reason, I can like I've got really

715
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: long arms.

716
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, that the sit in reach is obscurity. Maybe

717
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: not a great tests great. I love it because like

718
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean it's it's.

719
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 6: Just makes you feel better about yourself.

720
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: The sit in reach.

721
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 6: Maybe those people can do that and then not do

722
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 6: it not.

723
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Ye do always pull my my score would drag me

724
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: I score down, like I would just do okay a

725
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: little foreshadowing, you know, yeah, I would just do okay

726
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: on the sitting reaching the other ones, I would be

727
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: like good, and then it would just like pull me down,

728
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: like give me do like more of an average.

729
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, what the heck? I won them won

730
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: the mile, Like I get nothing for that.

731
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: Did you see a video I posted lest Lion of

732
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Trice running run the lapse? He did that for thirty minutes.

733
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

734
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: And I didn't tell him to. He just starts running.

735
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: That's why.

736
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: For seriously, we were building we've been building a go

737
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: kart track, like a flat track. Yeah, and so we

738
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: were out there just messing with the issue, trying to

739
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: like grade it and all that, and Trice just takes off.

740
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: He's like, da can run a lap. I'm like sure,

741
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: he's in crocs.

742
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: Oh, no way, it just starts running.

743
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, how are you gonna do? He's like, I

744
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: don't know. I think he said he did twenty four

745
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: laps and.

746
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 4: I would crocs.

747
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: He ditch a crocs just kept running the whole time.

748
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: It was bizarre.

749
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 5: I'd be interested to know if anyone hunts in like,

750
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 5: not all day, but portions of the day and crocs

751
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 5: or something like that, because there's a part of Leadville

752
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 5: the where they leave an AID station and they're about

753
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: two miles away. There's a water crossing and a lot

754
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 5: of people ran by, carrying their shoes and wearing crocs

755
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 5: or canes or something like that, and they would run

756
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 5: a couple of miles in it. And I was like,

757
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: if you were hunting somewhere and it wasn't cold and

758
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 5: there was a lot of water crossings, maybe you pop

759
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 5: your boots off and just wear those around the little

760
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: trench foot.

761
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 6: As long as they're in sport mode, yeah.

762
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 3: Right, Camo, Yeah, can't act well.

763
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 4: The cameo crocs and sport mode.

764
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 6: Well, I would say a good thing about following a

765
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 6: program of everything.

766
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: You just said, somebody's there, because I hate making your

767
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: stuff up.

768
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 6: The fran stuff.

769
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: Oh, but you need to do it.

770
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 6: I do need to do any yeah, but the other

771
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 6: stuff like I would much rather work out for forty

772
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 6: minutes just or for something, but I can't stand just

773
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 6: that the under ten minutes.

774
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 3: Just like what about intervals? Do you mind?

775
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 6: I don't mind. The intervals are fine.

776
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: Well see, And so that's I think that's where something

777
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: that gets lost a little bit in programming. I think

778
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: as a test you do need to touch that every

779
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: once in a while. But in programming, you know, like

780
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: we we have some guy that he probably won't find

781
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: this video, but he comments on all other videos that

782
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: we don't do anything over fifteen minutes.

783
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: Without rest, without rest, and I.

784
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Don't think there's a ton you lose so much intensity,

785
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think there is benefit in doing forty

786
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: burnout sessions. You should just go in the gym a

787
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: lot of the times in the mountain, if it's super

788
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: steep or super whatever, what are you gonna do. You're

789
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: gonna go for a little bit, You're gonna rest for

790
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: a second. You're gonna go for a little bit. You're

791
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: either waiting on somebody, they're waiting on you. Like there's

792
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: just it is what it is like you don't need

793
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: to go to complete failure every time, but we need

794
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: to push close to that point, give you enough for

795
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: us so you come back, maybe not all the way down, yeah,

796
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: push And so like that's something that I would say

797
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: over the years we've learned is instead of like for

798
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: general physical preparedness, instead of just doing FRAN or instead

799
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: of just doing you know, a five minute workout calling

800
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: it good for general population, we'll do like a two

801
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: and a half three minute interval rest for two minutes

802
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: or minute, same thing like we did it in the

803
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: class workout yesterday at Mayhem. And so this is obviously

804
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: way different than I mean, it's.

805
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 6: Something slid bench press.

806
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was fine, that was great.

807
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: It was like towards the end of it, I was like,

808
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: oh no, I don't know if I can get Like

809
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: that's the idea is you're not quite getting the rest

810
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: you want, You're getting enough to like, all right, I

811
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: can push this next set and then towards the end

812
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: like it start, you know, your heart rate starts not

813
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: getting down as low, you know. And and that one

814
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: was like perfect. I used five plates on the turf,

815
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: which was pretty heavy. So did I all right, What

816
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: way did you use on the dumbells?

817
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: I'm not.

818
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 6: I can't. I can't bench eighty dumbbells one hundred.

819
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: You're just a fishing on this.

820
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 4: Never said I was never said I wasn't.

821
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 6: However, it is a hundred reps.

822
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: It was one hundred reps, which.

823
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 6: Watkins started at eighty ye and then went to sixty fives.

824
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 6: How much do you weigh to ten so that sleds

825
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 6: easier for you too?

826
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: Then?

827
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean not easy.

828
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: It's not.

829
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 6: It's easier for you for sure. I don't know.

830
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm one hundred and ninety five pounds.

831
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 6: No, it's easier.

832
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm just wait, weight mass moves mass. But yeah, no,

833
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: I think that that's why a program for people who

834
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: who aren't realistic or aren't subjective about their programming and

835
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: willing to like, yeah, all right, hey, I know I

836
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: need to work on this, so I'm gonna like attack

837
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: this once twice a week. I think that's where a

838
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: program exactly of somebody who like, I mean not, I'm

839
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: not I hate doing this, but you know what the

840
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: hell you're talking about, right, especially from that side of it,

841
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: You've done it for years, like you literally grew up

842
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: from thirteen on, you know, using your body to test

843
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: and try these things. So I think that is a

844
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: huge advantage to anybody who's just like man, I enjoy

845
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: working out, but I don't want to think about what

846
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: I have to do here is right.

847
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: And then there's I know, all miss pieces just like

848
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: you said where you Yeah, we're I mean you and

849
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: I will miss pieces if for ourselves, like I, I

850
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: won't miss pieces when i'm I mean, maybe I do.

851
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: I don't hop on an echo bike and do sprints.

852
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Like it's it's a lot easier, but it's

853
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 4: a lot easier to sit.

854
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: Back and write and like think about, okay, well I'll

855
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: just write this and then and then all of a sudden.

856
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, I wouldn't do that.

857
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: Probably good that I'm writing, Yeah, I wouldn't do It's

858
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: probably good I'm writing it because someone else probably thinking

859
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: like I am, like I ain't gonna do that crap,

860
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: And then when they see it, they go, well, I

861
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna do it, you know, yeah I should

862
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: do it, and I don't want to.

863
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 4: That's probably means I'm gonna do it.

864
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

865
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: Uh one takeaway, Angela, I mean I think the correlation

866
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: is greater between what he does and hunting and what

867
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: we do. Then people would think like, I mean, yeah,

868
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: he does do those short bursts, But I did talk

869
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: about the endurance aspect of being able to do it

870
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 2: for two or three hours, yeah, and then being able

871
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: to do it in like three days later in practice,

872
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: and then do it again that next weekend. So there's

873
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: a huge endurance aspect, and there's a huge aspect of

874
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: recovery for sure, like being a recovery like like you're saying,

875
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: if you're going up a mountain, you want to be

876
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: able to rest for a minute, go back at it,

877
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: and then you want to be able to go to

878
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: bed and be able to do it the next day

879
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: and do that for a week and if you're lucky enough,

880
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: take a week off and go back into the mountains

881
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: or maybe not even like that's like you know, yeah,

882
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: for you know, everyone's everyone's wildest dream would be just

883
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: go out there and stay from beginning of September to

884
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: end of September and just be hunting. So being able

885
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: to prepare yourself for that is tough, and there's there's

886
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: a lot of ways to do it. There's a lot

887
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: of Like you said, you broke it down into the

888
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: three three main energy systems, so there's a lot of

889
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: different things to train. Even though it looks like from

890
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: the outside it's just a long grind, but it's not.

891
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: Nope, I'll say from a competitive standpoint, competitor, yeah, I

892
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: think there's that. You know, even people who didn't play

893
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: sports but are competitive. I think that's the carryover. And

894
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: you see that with what he's doing the from the

895
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: like the essence of it or the very you know,

896
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: simple like it's a it's a competition to hunt, like

897
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: you're you're competing with that animal, and so there's so

898
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: many layers to that, like team. You know, I enjoy

899
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: hunting with a group. I enjoy hunting with a group

900
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: of guys that I like being around that we agree

901
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: sometimes on what the strategy is and sometimes it's not

902
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: relayed quite the same. And then you know, just having

903
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: that strategy, you're having to play that game, I think

904
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: is you know, I think that's why so many ex athletes,

905
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: former athletes.

906
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: When they're when they're done competing, are drawn to hunting.

907
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, month somewhat deep.

908
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: Oh, let's hear it. Twenty years in the church. This

909
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 4: is what it does to you're a deep thinker.

910
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 6: Well, I'm also way older than you. I have much

911
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 6: more life experience.

912
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 4: Dude, you're so it's crazy how old you are.

913
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 6: Like how many more grays you have them?

914
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 4: I know, dude, my hair is gray. My hair is gray.

915
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 6: I would say it's cool for his story is awesome, right,

916
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 6: But even so he started Ferris all this stuff, drafted

917
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 6: seventh round with the Baltimore and right, but then then

918
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 6: as soon as like a new season and different place, then.

919
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: He just thrives.

920
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 6: So what it took to not give up in that time,

921
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 6: So there's hope, you know, just different stuff. You have

922
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 6: to be determined so you can't give up. But even

923
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 6: just to know you never know, like what the next

924
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 6: season brings, whether it's hunting, in life, whatever, you know,

925
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 6: if you're just committed to where you're at, and then

926
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 6: because you never know next season and look any mouth

927
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 6: for four million dollars, well.

928
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, i mean I'm just thinking even just in

929
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: a hunt, you know, how many times have we gone

930
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: we're like this is or even in a day, you know,

931
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: like morning we're optimistic. You know you're hearing bugles, You're

932
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: here when it's just elk, but you're like, it's gonna happen,

933
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: and then it doesn't. Then you got the kind of

934
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: the midday lull where some people go back to camp.

935
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: We kind of die when we go back to camp. Yeah,

936
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: my add is not good. So we either go if

937
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: we're by ourselves, we go push around bowls, you know,

938
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: still and whatever. And then you have the evening where

939
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: you're like, and even within that midday you're like, dark timber,

940
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: there's a chance.

941
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: It's crazy, dude, It is crazy. The roller coaster of

942
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: emotions when you're hunting is insane.

943
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: And if you don't have a good, just group of

944
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: people that you're like, you know, you can get down.

945
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Granted we do a lot of negative self talk, but

946
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: it's more like, you know, it's just like messing around.

947
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: But I think word to tie in him Zach and

948
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 5: hunting would be persistent, persistently because think about what people

949
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 5: see on social media every year is probably like ten

950
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,959
Speaker 5: years of someone's hard work that turned into that big

951
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: bull or that big buck. But what they didn't see

952
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: was all the years they didn't kill in this one

953
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 5: little snapshot and they're like, man, this guy always, this

954
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 5: guy always gets the biggest board, the biggest buck, whatever.

955
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 5: This guy just signed this huge contract, but they didn't

956
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 5: see the twitter. Fifteen pound kid walking on at a

957
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 5: D two school just picked a college because it's close

958
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 5: to where his family owned hunting land. Yeah yeah, and

959
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 5: they're like, oh wow, he just signed this huge contract.

960
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 5: That must be nice, you know nice.

961
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

962
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 5: So I think that persistence is the key word for me.

963
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think and uh, I think I've heard this

964
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: about Cam was talking about this way he killed his

965
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: first ball. It took me eight years to kill his

966
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: first ball on public land. I think campaigns I watch

967
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: a video about that five yeah, were fun. So yeah,

968
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: people just don't realize the same thing. It's just like

969
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: you don't notice how long it took somebody. When you

970
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: see the YouTube video of them killing that bull, they go,

971
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: oh man, that's cool, Like I wish.

972
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: I could do that, Say, dude, you don't know how

973
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: long I thought that.

974
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: You don't know how long I wanted to be that

975
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 2: guy who had the YouTube video to kill the ball.

976
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

977
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 4: So there's yeah, persistence a good word, all right.

978
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: Spike Camp three