1 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo, star of Stage, Screen 2 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: and TVs Alta. We're going to start off today talking 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: about something that probably isn't going to happen at all. 4 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: I tell you what, it seems like. It is the 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: talk of the town, Ken Rosenthal. Everyone in our industry 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: is talking about it. But you are about to pour 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: some cold water all over this nonsense. 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't call it nonsense because the question of 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: whether the Pirates should trade Paul Skins is a legitimate question. 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: I just don't see how it happens at this juncture, 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: and I'm going to explain why as clearly as I 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: possibly can. First of all, the Pirates just fire their manager. 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Their general manager, Ben Charrington might not be back after 14 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: this year. It's his sixth year, just as it is 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Derek Shelton's sixth year. And if you're Bob Nutting, the 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: owner of the team, and you're expecting progress this year, 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: he's on record is saying that, and there's no progress, 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: and it's sixth year of Ben Sherrington's tenure. 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: What is the likelihood that he will be retained after 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: this year? I would say probably not good. 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: And if you're Bob Nutting, and you're assessing all this 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: and you're even thinking about trading Paul Skeins, you might 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: be thinking, why am I going to let a GM 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: that I might let go trade the franchise pitcher when 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: the next GM that should be his call. So that's 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: reason number one that I don't think this is feasible 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: at all. Reason number two, strictly from a baseball value perspective, 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Juan Soto when he was traded from the Nationals to 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: the Padres, had two plus years remaining. Paul Skeens has 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: four plus years remaining. And you remember the return for Soto. 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: It was one of the great returns in trade history. 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: It included CJ. Abrams, Mackenzie, Gore, and of course James Would. 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: You're going to get even more than that for Paul Skeins. 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: You're going to find a team willing to do that. 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: Maybe I just doubt it as protective as teams are 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: of prospects today. So if you're talking about the Redstocks, 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: just as an example, Marcelo Meyer. 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: And Roman Anthony, you probably have to start there. 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know that the Red Sox want to 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: do that, even for Paul Skins. 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: And finally with Paul Skeins. 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: What would the message look like If you're the Pittsburgh Pirates, 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: You've had six straight losing seasons, you're working on your seventh, 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: and then you trade the best thing about your team period. 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: You've already had pr disasters this year with the taking 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: down of the Roberto Clemente sign, the ceremonial bricks that 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: you screwed up with as well. Obviously those are off 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: field issues. This is an on field question, and I 49 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: guess if you could make a great trade for a 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: team that can't hit, yes they could use some offensive 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: players if you could do that, okay, But again that 52 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: goes back to the value question, and I just don't 53 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: see it happening. The message would be horrible, the value 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: would not be enough, and the GM that would be 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: making the trade might not be your GM much past 56 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: the end of this season. So I just don't see 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: it happening. I guess if you're the Pirates and you're 58 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: worried Paul Skins. 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: Is going to blow out any minute. 60 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Which I guess is a fair concern for any team 61 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: with any pitcher, then maybe you consider it. But really, 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: for all the reasons I just stated, Alana, I don't 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: see this happening. 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of blowing out Jared Jones obviously going to 65 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: the IL with surgery for him as well. But is 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: Paul Skins can always a tradable piece? I mean, is 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: this something that they're thinking, Okay, we got to think 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: about the value. Do they wait until he only has 69 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: two years left instead of four plus years? Is he 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: always going to be on the trading block in their mind? 71 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: Here's another thought of Lona. 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: What if you're the Pittsburgh Pirates and you actually try 73 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: to build around Paul Skins? 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: How about that thought? What concept? 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Ken Mark Finestan pointed this out on MLB dot Com today, 76 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: and it was a really good point point The Tigers 77 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: two years ago with Tarrek scoobl they weren't in a 78 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: good place, and yet here they are. They've built themselves 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: into something formidable, in fact, best fifty game record in 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: baseball right now. So if you're the Pirates, that's what 81 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: you should be doing. You should be building around Paul Skimes, 82 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: not thinking about trading him. They didn't do much in 83 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: the offseason at all when they had, again, this franchise 84 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: pitcher and going into his first full year. I just 85 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: don't understand the way they operate, and neither do a 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: lot of people in baseball. 87 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe that it's even a topic of conversation. 88 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: Heed's one of the most exciting players right now. But 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: you know, if you're the Pittsburgh Pirates, maybe you're looking 90 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: to get something back instead of build around your current team. 91 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: Paul Skins is gonna be a lot of fun to 92 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: watch Ken for a very long time. Let's talk a 93 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: little bit though about the All Century Club, if you will. 94 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a quarter century team that we're 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: talking about. So the Athletic did a nice piece about 96 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: who would you put on your quarter century That's a 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: lot of unbelievable players to kind of process Ken, what 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: would you do this? 99 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Well, I know fans are gonna have a lot of 100 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: fun with this, and in fact that the Athletic we 101 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: invite fans to pick their own players, and there's going 102 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: to be considerable debate over all of them. The one 103 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: that stood out to me and the one of many 104 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: that will generate controversy is Altwove at second base. Now, 105 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: he is the best second baseman I would expect people 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: to think of this quarter century The question becomes okay, 107 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: what about the cheating scandal. Now, as Jason Stark wrote, 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: he only had a very hazy association. 109 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: With that scandal. 110 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: He was the one guy the Astros players said no, no, no, 111 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: he was not involved. There is data to suggest as 112 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: well or to reinforce, that he was not involved, and 113 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: yet fans associate him, perhaps more than any player with 114 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the scandal, simply because he's the face of the team. 115 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: So if you're going to include Altuve on this team, then, 116 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: as Jason later gets into, what about some of the 117 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: ped players, Robinson Cano at second base is not Jason's choice. 118 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: There. 119 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: The one Ped guy that he did include was Barry Bonds. 120 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: He did not include a Rod and Bonds because he 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: participated or played at a time when there was not 122 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: testing and penalties. Jason just said, listen, this is the 123 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: best player we've seen, and he's going to be on 124 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: my team. 125 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: All debatable. 126 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: It's the whole question that, of course revolves around the 127 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame candidacies of these players as well. Do 128 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: you include them or not? And that, to me is 129 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: probably the most difficult debate that's going to come out 130 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: of this. We can have some other debates Alana, and 131 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: I know you have one thought as well about this team. 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: And who you might have excluded and included. 133 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also want our listeners and our viewers 134 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: can to get involved in this because, as you mentioned, 135 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: the Athletic is encouraging people to participate and put together 136 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: their own all quarter century team. Kyle Johnson was saying, 137 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: I like Utley over Altuve, So continue to get those 138 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: questions in, guys, because Grill and Ken is coming up 139 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: here on fair territory. I think there's a good question 140 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: to ask in terms of Aaron Judge, Ken Rosenthal or 141 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: Mooky Bets. Now, there's a couple of reasons why you 142 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: can go on either side. Obviously, Aaron Judge is unbelievable 143 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: right two MVPs. He has, you know, so many different 144 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: historic milestones already in his unbelievable career. But Mooky Bets, Now, 145 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: if you consider him just a right fielder, this is 146 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 2: a guy that also has three World Series under his belt. 147 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge is still searching for his first. Now, you 148 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: could also say that perhaps that's not an individual problem, 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: that's an organizational problem, and that's more of a Yankees 150 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: issue than an Aaron Judge issue, But you also have 151 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: to look at the fact that Mooki Bets can play 152 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: the infield as well. I mean, he's one of the 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: most versatile athletes in the game, not just on the Dodgers, 154 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: not just on the red Stone he was over in Boston, 155 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: but just a versatile athlete. So if you look at 156 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: it from a just a right field perspective, is that 157 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge. If you look at it as an overall 158 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: perspective of a right field or that can play the infield, 159 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: that has three World Series under his belt, you know, 160 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 2: it's interesting to look at. But this is a type 161 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: of situation, Ken that we could debate until the cows 162 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: come home, because everybody thinks that they have the right 163 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: answer when it comes to this. But I mean, think 164 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: about it, Derek Jeter at shortstop. Of course, a lot 165 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: of people don't think that Derek Jeter was really good defensively. 166 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: So there's just a lot of different things that you 167 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: could argue. It's always fun to have the conversation. One 168 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: thing that we talk about is I would probably put 169 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: Utley over anybody at second base just because Utley for me, 170 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: has always been a gamer and his former club Ken 171 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Phillies. They're playing out of their mind right now. 172 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: Had a good week despite the Alvarado situation. What is 173 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: making the Phillies so hot, Well. 174 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: For starters, alana I would suggest their schedule of late 175 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: has been kind of easy. Now they're eighteen and five 176 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: in the last twenty three. You cannot take that away 177 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: from them. You have to win the games against the 178 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: opponent in front of you. Last six have been against 179 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: the Rockies and the Pirates, so okay, they should be 180 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: winning those games. And they are also in this stretch. 181 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: They played Tampa Bay, they've played Cleveland, They've played Washington. 182 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: It's been a little breather for them in the schedule. 183 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: But this is from an offensive standpoint, one of the 184 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: best teams in the league. They're sixth in the Majors 185 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: in runs per game. Their rotation, as we know, is 186 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: one of the best in the game as well, fourth 187 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: in rotation era. The question going forward is going to 188 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: be the bullpen, and the loss of Alvarado only highlights 189 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: that they probably were going to need at least one 190 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: reliever even with Alvarado and now losing that left handed 191 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: presence one of the hardest throwing lefties in the game. 192 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: They're going to be a team that is definitely going 193 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: to be in search of bullpen help at the deadline. 194 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: It's possible that if their rotation stays healthy come to playoffs, 195 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: they could use Ranger Suarez in the bullpen, as they've 196 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: done in the past. It gets a little dicey because 197 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: Suarez is eligible for free agency, but again he has 198 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: done in the past, and I can't see that hurting 199 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: his market if he closes out a World Series. 200 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a team that I would run 201 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: through a wall for. I love Kyle Schwarber, I love 202 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper. You look at Kyle Schwarber, ten home runs, 203 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: twenty one RBI over the stretch. Ken that you were 204 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: just talking about, But let's look a little deeper into 205 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: the numbers, and we don't talk about him enough because 206 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: he was scuffling in March and April, and that is 207 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 2: the services of Alec bohone. This guy's had a very 208 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: up and down career so far with the Phillies. But 209 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: you think about Ken, what he did in March and April, 210 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: just a two to twenty one average of five twenty 211 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: one ops, just five extra base hits. He had the 212 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: four doubles and the one triple bagger an eight you know, 213 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: and eight RBIs. But in May, something has changed for 214 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: Alec Bohm. A three thirty three average and eight eighty 215 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: four ops, five extra base hits with the two doubles 216 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: and the three home runs. I looked into it a 217 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: little further. He's not hitting the ball harder Ken in 218 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,119 Speaker 2: terms of March in April to May, but his strikeout 219 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: rate is down and he's being a lot more selective 220 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: at the plate. So for whatever reason, Alec Bohm seems 221 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: to have it figured out. So you expect the Kyle 222 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: Schwarber's of the world and the Bryce Harper's of the world, 223 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 2: and to a certain extent, you know, the JT. Rail 224 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: Muto's and so on and so forth, but Alec Bohm, 225 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: who was an All Star last year, Ken, seems to 226 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: be figuring out a little bit. 227 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: He's an enigmatic player, there's no doubt about that. And 228 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: remember in the off season they were talking about possibly 229 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: training him, and they never found really a market that 230 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: developed for Alec Bohm because teams don't see him as special. 231 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: They see him as kind of an average player. But 232 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: he has above average capability and as you just pointed 233 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: out so well he is showing that again in this 234 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: particular month. So for the Phillies to go where they 235 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: want to go, yes, they need Alec Bohm to be better, 236 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: They need Brandon Marsh to be better. They need a 237 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: more complete, full lineup than they've had at times. Right now, 238 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: they're hot guys, are They're big guys Turner and Schwore 239 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: and Harper as you mentioned. But yes, they need to 240 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: be a one through nine threat, and they're looking more 241 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: like that in this particular run. 242 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 243 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: I love the Phillies. It's always good to see them, 244 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: and I love what Rob Thompson's doing on that team. 245 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: In Dombrowski will always go out and get somebody special 246 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: to help that team at the deadline. Much more to 247 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: come here on Fair Territory, of course. Get those questions 248 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: in for Grill and Ken. 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And the 274 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: first question for you, Ken Rosenthal, is in regards to 275 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: the San Diego Padres, I guess the quickest thing is 276 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: are they going to sell trade deadline landing spots for 277 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: Dylan Cees, Michael King, Nick Pavetta, Luisa Rise, Robert Torrez, 278 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: Jason Adam, Fernando Tatis Junior. 279 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 280 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Podres are still very much 281 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: in the thick of it. Are They not the. 282 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: Walt's five straight. They're three and seven of the last ten. 283 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: They've hit a low. This is still one of the. 284 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: Better teams in the game. 285 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: So is it possible one of the potential free agents 286 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: might go if Aj Preller. 287 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: Can cock some kind of big monster deal. I guess. 288 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: But I don't see them as sellers, that's for sure. 289 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: And basically that question or had them trading the whole team, 290 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. 291 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: Could I see Machado was still there? 292 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: I guess, Tatis was gone. 293 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: Could I see them maybe spinning one of the pictures 294 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: who was a potential free agent? I guess, Except you 295 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: need those guys to go where you want to go. 296 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: They've talked about ceciin king and a rise in the offseason. 297 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: Robert Suarez the same. But I just don't see it. 298 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: Even in some kind of. 299 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Fantasy world where AJ Preller is doing something really big, 300 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: he could do it. 301 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: He's the one guy who could do it. 302 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening. 303 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Aj Preller and Jerry Depoto, they like to do 304 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: those things. I tell you what. The next question ken 305 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: is from Depoto's team. Should the Mariners continue to wait 306 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: and develop their pros or trade them to get better 307 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: this year and make a run. This question coming from 308 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: Tyler Clemenson. 309 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: They've got some really interesting offensive prospects coming, and I 310 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: don't expect, given the way they've run their team the 311 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: last few years, kind of in a restricted financial manner, 312 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: that they're going to give up on those guys anytime soon. 313 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: They're in a good spot as it is. They're competing 314 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: at a high level without three of their starting pitchers, 315 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert, George Kirby, and Bryce Miller, so I would expect, Yes, 316 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: the Mariners will be active. Jerry Depoto, like AJ Priller, 317 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: is an active GM, but it's hard for me to 318 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: see them trading any of those guys unless unless they 319 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: get a zero to three plus player in return. 320 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: What I'm talking about is a young player who is cheap. 321 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: Could you trade a. 322 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Prospect for a guy who's already maybe in the big 323 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: leagues and doing it? 324 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: I guess. 325 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: But these trades, a lot of them that were discussing, 326 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: they're easier said than done, and it's just going to 327 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: be really tough in my estimation, for Depot or any 328 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: GM sitting on some good prospects to get the value 329 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: he wants, and in the Mariners case, they're going to 330 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: need those guys and they're doing just fine. So we'll 331 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: see how this plays out the next couple of months. 332 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: But I don't think that happens. 333 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't either, and we'll go from the AL West 334 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: to the AL East. A question from Jay Brown on 335 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Oriols ken Given the Oriols recent performance downturn, 336 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: and obviously the dismissal of Brandon Hyde, how do you 337 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: assess Mike Elias's role in these developments. That's an interesting 338 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: question about michae Elias. Should his position be under constant scrutiny? 339 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: It should, And I've kind of talked about this on 340 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: Foul Territory. 341 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: I've talked about this on Fox. 342 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: We've talked about this at length, and I've written about it. Yes, 343 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: this is mostly on Mike Elias. Now. That team, the 344 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: way they were playing, I could understand why they fired 345 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: Brandon Hyde. I was watching their game Friday night, the 346 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: night before the firing, and I was thinking to myself, 347 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: this is years of experience watching this kind of thing. 348 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, they're playing like a team that's 349 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: going to get its manager fired. And sure enough the 350 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: next day it happened. But Michae Elias, and he has 351 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: said this this week when he finally spoke to the 352 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: media after three days of not speaking about the firing, 353 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: he acknowledged that the roster construction is his responsibility, and 354 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: there's no doubt that it's his responsibility. What we don't 355 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: know is ownership's feeling about Elias and about how everything 356 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: has gone down. David Rubinstein and his group, they're new 357 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: and what they're doing or not doing behind the scenes 358 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: is unknown. Their willingness to react or not react is 359 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: not known as well. But I would expect, yes, that Elias. 360 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: Is under scrutiny right now. He has to be under 361 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: scrutiny because of the way that they have collapsed. 362 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: And I wrote about this today in the Wind Up 363 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: the Athletics free daily baseball newsletter. You play for tomorrow, 364 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: which the Ools have done, right, They've played for tomorrow. 365 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes tomorrow never comes. 366 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 6: I'm not a question. 367 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: And this is a team that had such high hopes 368 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: can obviously winning over one hundred games recently, and now 369 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: they may not even make the postseason. I understand that 370 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: the rotation is decimated, but their young stars are not hitting, 371 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: and this team has more questions, it seems than answers. 372 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: A good response to this, Let's talk first of all, 373 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: when Sean Michael is weighing in, when are we going 374 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: to talk about Riley Green? This guy is the biggest 375 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: Tigers fan, Shawn Michael, always a participant here on fair territory. 376 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. When are we going to talk about 377 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: Riley Green as a top five candidate for MVP? Top 378 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: five and home runs RBIOBP top ten and it's we 379 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: get it, Sean, we get it, can talk about Riley 380 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: Green go. 381 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: I love Sean And if I'm not mistaken, he's been 382 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: contacting me and what form or other for years and 383 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: I love his passionate about the Tigers. 384 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: And let's face it, he's right. Riley Green is a. 385 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: Top five MVP candidate At this moment. I haven't given 386 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: this too much thought. It's May twenty second, not really 387 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: time to think about MVP. But if the season ended today, 388 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: sure he'd be in the conversation. 389 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt about it. 390 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: Not to confuse Riley Green of the Tigers with Riley 391 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: Green the country singer. I just want to make sure 392 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: everybody knows the difficult. 393 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 6: It's not a VP. 394 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: That would be Morgan Wallen if I was voting. All right, 395 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: here's another question for you, Ken. How do teams that 396 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: need bullpen help, which is everybody address this concern at 397 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: the time and the season. Most trades don't start until 398 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: halfway through July for teams that need help. Now, where 399 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: will that come from? That's a great question. 400 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: This is four eleven. 401 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: It's got to come from within and that's really the 402 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: only answer I can give you there. It is very 403 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: rare to see trades at this time of year. Now, 404 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: there are waiver claims, there are pitchers who are designated 405 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: for assignment that maybe you can pick up and turn 406 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: them into something. 407 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 3: Teams often try to do that. 408 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: I believe Luke Weaver kind of fell into that category 409 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: at some point a couple of years ago. 410 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: That's an example. 411 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: But it's really difficult, and trades just do not happen 412 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: for the most part this time of year. They're not unprecedented, 413 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: not unheard of Luis Rise last year, but for the 414 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: most part, you've got to find solutions within and it's 415 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: not easy for teams to do. 416 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, last question here on Grill and Ken. 417 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: This one is from Baseball tossed. How bad is Luis 418 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: Robert's trade value? 419 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: It's not great. 420 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: And the White Sox hope was that he come out 421 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: and play to his ability, his potential, and he has 422 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: the contract a couple more years left, a fairly sizable money. 423 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: So I would say right now, it's not good. 424 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: I know he's stolen a ton of bases, and listen, 425 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: the physical ability is top I don't know five percent 426 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: in the game, but he just has not put it 427 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: together the way teams would want. He has stayed healthy, 428 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: that's a good sign. But I would say his value 429 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: is kind of minimal right now. 430 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: And I also feel like he's been talked about in 431 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: terms of trades for quite some time and it keeps 432 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 2: going down as far as the value is concerned. A right, 433 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: by the way, just going to finish this segment. Everyone 434 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 2: hates us says that AJ Peller would rather eat glass 435 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: then punt on a season. I believe that to be correct. 436 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: I would say that's true. And first of all, again 437 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: there's seven over. They're right in the thick of this thing. 438 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: They've had a bad week. 439 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: They're not a team that should be looking to do 440 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: anything from a cell standpoint. Now, if you want to 441 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: spin guys and bring another guys at sage what he does, 442 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: but they're not selling, that's kind of conceivable concept for that. 443 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. I think Fernando Tatis Junior is safe 444 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: with the San Diego Potteries. All right, we're gonna be 445 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: back right after a break with Dude and Dork of 446 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: the Week. 447 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 7: If you're a card collector or you'd like to get 448 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 7: into card collecting, may I suggest Arena Club and slab packs, 449 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 7: which means that you can rip the packs digitally and 450 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 7: of course get the card that you want. 451 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: It's also the most trusted name in the game. 452 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: And I would rather rip packs these days on my 453 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 5: phone than sit next to you and have you grabbing 454 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 5: one of my physical packs if I was grabbing one. 455 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't need me grabbing your packs because last 456 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 4: time you grabbed one it ended up like this card. 457 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 4: So let's not have that. And that's why Arena Club 458 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 4: is great. They send them to you in these fancy 459 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: protectors like the Scout Brown card that we have here, 460 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 4: and they'll come safe, they're already graded. Or we could 461 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: do like I do and just leave my cards in 462 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: the showroom and never actually see them physically. 463 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, but they're safe protected and if I want to 464 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 7: sell them, I can't buy sell trade. 465 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: They offer full transparency, showing every card in the slab 466 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 5: pack with the likelihood of pulling each one, so you 467 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: know exactly what's available before you buy. Get twenty percent 468 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 5: off your first slab pack or card purchase by going 469 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: to Arena club dot com, slash foul and use code foul. 470 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 6: Dude, dude, dude, Okay, due to the week is here. 471 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: It is our time to give some praise to a 472 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: player and organization and entity. Ken will go with you first, 473 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: you have honors. Who is your due to the week? 474 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: I am going to wave the white flag, in my 475 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: case a white piece of notebook paper. 476 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: That's all I have on the Angels now. 477 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: On Friday, I wrote a column critical of basically Arty 478 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: Moreno for the way he's handled or had handled the 479 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: Otani situation over the years, all the blown opportunities, one 480 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: thing after another. 481 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 3: It was pretty critical. 482 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: Since then, the Angels have not lost the game six 483 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: straight wins, six game winning streak, which started with. 484 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: A sweep of the hated Dodgers. Angels Dudes of the Week. 485 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: I love it. 486 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: They don't often get to be Dudes of the Week, 487 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: so good for them. I originally was going to go 488 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: with Will Benson of the Cincinnati Reds. He was the 489 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: most recent player of the week. He's had a really 490 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: good year. But I will say this, Zach McKinstry and 491 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: Aaron Nola are my Dudes of the Week because they 492 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: have been named the first MVPs of the season. And 493 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: what I mean about that is the Players Trust can 494 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: announce that they are the first most Valuable Philanthropist of 495 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. So Zach McKinstry of the Tigers, Sean 496 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: Michael and Aaron Nola of the Philadelphia Phillies. They will 497 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: award a ten thousand dollars and both Nola and McKinstry's 498 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: honor to support the charitable work off the field, Zach's 499 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: work with BBQ Mission of Phoenix area nonprofit feeds on 500 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: housed members and Aaron's is contributing his grant to support 501 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: the tireless work on behalf of the ALS Association, as 502 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: well as support the veterans through his work with Team Red, 503 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: White and Blue. So congratulations to both Zach McKinstry and 504 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: Aaron Nola. I love to see players giving back and 505 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: using their platform for good. Speaking of not good, here 506 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: is the John Fisher dork of the week. Okay, Ken, 507 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: who do you have? Who are your pointing your finger 508 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: at this week? 509 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: All Right, I'm going to be a little bit careful 510 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: here because I have all the respect in the world 511 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: for Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer, and I look forward 512 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: to one day voting for them first ballot Hall of Fame. 513 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Both have been great pictures, great representatives of the game, 514 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: you name it. But my dorks of the week. 515 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: Are going to be more of a general dork. 516 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: It's teams that are giving these guys money still. And 517 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: you saw the San Francisco Giants pay Verlander fifteen million. 518 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: You saw the Toronto Blue Jays pay Max Shurs are 519 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: fifteen and a half million. Max has pitched three innings 520 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: this year. He's forty one. He's going to be forty one. 521 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: I should say. Verlander just went on the injured list. 522 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: He's made ten starts. He's a below league average pitcher 523 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: at this stage the way he has performed just this year, 524 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: and it's just not happening. 525 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: So he's forty two. 526 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: And listen, these guys have had great careers, but you 527 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: can't keep giving them money when they're not going to 528 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: be performing at the levels that they used to perform. 529 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: We all keep thinking, including me, that man, they're coming back, 530 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: they're going to be great, and it's just not happening 531 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: for them. 532 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: I think the ship has sailed on their first ballot 533 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: Hall of Famers. But I agree with you, I'll take 534 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: the money. I mean, if we're just giving money to 535 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: like you know, also rans and has beens and you 536 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: know those types of things, I'll take the money. Can 537 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: all right. So my dork of the week is Mike Elias, 538 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: and you and I had discussed this a little bit 539 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: in the show previously, but he is surrounded by a 540 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: very young core of players and for him to step 541 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: away from his team and leave it up to the 542 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: manager and these players to answer a lot of the questions. 543 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: After the very difficult year that this club has had 544 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: and obviously the firing of Brandon Hyde, he kind of 545 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: steps away, says he needs to collect his thoughts. I 546 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: mean that's an issue when you are a president of 547 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: a team. That's part of the job. I mean, to 548 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: who much is given, much is expected, and this is 549 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: a team that is not doing well. So Michael Liias 550 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: is my dork of the week. All right, much, we 551 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: want to come on Fair Territory. Right now, we're going 552 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: to say goodbye to our friends over at nesson Sportsnet 553 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and nesson Nation. We say goodbye to you for now. 554 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing you next week. 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If 564 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: it does lose, your bonus bets will be available once 565 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: your initial wager is settled. Gambling problem or concern called 566 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: one eight hundred gambler. All right, Ken, you have a 567 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 2: big game this weekend, a big series if you will 568 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: for your duties over on Fox, of course it is 569 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Dodgers coming off of a four and 570 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: five homestand and the New York Metropolitans. I tell you what, Ken, 571 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: you give us a preview of this series. But who 572 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: is not on the IL for LA. 573 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: Well, it's rather amazing. 574 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: And the other day on Fair Territory, I talked about 575 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: the Dodgers and they kind of mocked the idea that 576 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: they were going to run away, and I said, see, people, 577 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: it's not happening. They're not ruining the sport. And CJ 578 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: Nikowski on X my friend CJ, who is of course 579 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: a great Braves announcer, pointed out that listen, they got 580 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars on the IL right now and 581 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: they're still in first place. 582 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 3: That's kind of not a great thing. I get it. 583 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: CJ had a good point there. And they do have 584 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: a ton of players still on the IL fourteen. 585 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: That's the most in the majors. 586 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: Obviously, they've got a lot of good players who are 587 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: actually healthy and that's what's carrying them forward. As for 588 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: the Mets, they're interesting too because the Soto stuff and 589 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: you see the Dodgers right there through fifty games. This 590 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: is where they did pretty much every year from two 591 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: au twenty one. And the difference now is they have 592 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: all these injured players and they're still right there. And 593 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say with the Mets clearly the biggest 594 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: concern right now, the biggest question, the biggest talk is 595 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: about Juan Soto. And to me, some of this is 596 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: noise and some of this is just a reaction to 597 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: him starting the way he started with the Yankees last 598 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: year and played with the Yankees last year. But as 599 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: far as his body language and his supposed unhappiness and 600 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: all this stuff, I expect it to go away. And 601 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: I expect he's going to be Juan Soto again. I 602 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: expect we're going to see the strut before at some 603 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: point this season. I just don't think that Juan Soto 604 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: has suddenly turned into this pumpkin. And yeah, he's probably 605 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: struggling with the adjustment a little bit. He struggled with 606 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: the adjustment when he got traded from the Nationals to 607 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: the Padres. 608 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: A couple of years ago. 609 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: And it seems to me that something's going on with 610 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: him with the lack of hustle at times. I'm not 611 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: quite clear on what it is, but I do expect 612 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: that he's going. 613 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: To be just fine. 614 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and honestly, if you do Soto math, he's really 615 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: not that far below where he needs to be. I 616 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: think he's going to be just fine. Well, we always 617 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: appreciate everyone joining us here on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. 618 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: Ken's going to be back, of course, with a brand new, 619 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: fresh episode on Monday. Do not forget that Foul Territory 620 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: is no next a J peers in Aerocrat Scott Braun. Also, 621 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: Chandler Rome is going to come on, welcoming raining Anal 622 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: Player of the Week, Will Benson of the Reds and Mariners, 623 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: Ricky Pitcher coming up, Logan Evans and the Athletics. Of course, 624 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: Chandler Rome joining is well, a co host of Crush 625 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: City Territory, and then Dodgers Territory is on with me 626 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: and Clympasias. Mark Pryor is our guest. We'll see you 627 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: next week. Ken, thanks so much