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Speaker 2: the main story, and who would have thought this would

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Speaker 2: be a big story, a story at any point this year,

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Speaker 2: the cold signing Philip Rivers to the practice squad. Now

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Speaker 2: everybody seems to be focusing on and maybe I started

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Speaker 2: this of he's a semi finalist for the Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame this year. Now I don't think he's a first

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Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer. In fact, I think he's a

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Speaker 2: borderline Hall of Famer. But I'm also wondering about this.

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Speaker 2: Once he gets on the roster, he doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: play in a game. Once he's officially on the roster

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Speaker 2: right now, practice squad. When he's on the roster, then

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Speaker 2: they start the clock again. He won't be eligible until

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty one, that is, unless he plays next year

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Speaker 2: as well. But I'm hoping they find somebody, maybe another grandfather,

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Speaker 2: that they can put in for Philip Rivers. But it's

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Speaker 2: a big story. I don't think he's going to be

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Speaker 2: playing against Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Boy.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to make your debut after a five

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Speaker 2: year drought of not playing and you're going to come

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Speaker 2: in and play in Seattle against that Seattle defense, yikes.

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Speaker 2: Isn't there another quarterback somewhere in the world who might

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Speaker 2: be a little better than Philip Rivers. Now, I understand

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Speaker 2: that he understands the offense. He's in contact with Shane

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Speaker 2: Stike and the head coach on a weekly basis. I

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Speaker 2: understand all of that. Are you trying to tell me

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Speaker 2: that there's not another quarterback who might be just a

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Speaker 2: better option and a little younger than Philip Rivers? Just

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Speaker 2: A couple of movements on betting lines that caught my attention.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers were favored or getting three and a half

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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. At the Chiefs they were getting three

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Speaker 2: and a half, now it's four and a half. The

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Speaker 2: Vikings were getting six against the Cowboys. Now they're getting

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Speaker 2: five and a half. Just little things like that. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm always curious. We get to midweek and when the

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Speaker 2: sharps decide that they're going to bet. But the Chargers

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Speaker 2: now getting four and a half against the Chiefs. I

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Speaker 2: think the reality set in. The Chiefs and the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: have the same record. I think they're both six and seven,

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Speaker 2: and you go, wait, oh my gosh. Now the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: But with the Chiefs and you go, oh, that's when

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Speaker 2: it starts to sink in of just how bad this

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Speaker 2: has been. Now, and we love to do this. We

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Speaker 2: react quickly and we jump to conclusions. If you're Andy Reid,

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Speaker 2: do you want to stay around for this?

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Speaker 2: They went in as a super Bowl contender, maybe the

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Speaker 3: And now it's ah, does Andy Reid want to stay

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Speaker 2: Maybe, you know, get a front office job with the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs like that happened quickly here, But the Chiefs are different.

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Speaker 2: This will be Kelsey's last year. They thought they shored

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Speaker 3: So Chris Jones, I'm watching yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Or the day before an analyst where all of a

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Speaker 3: It happens quickly. Oh, Travis Kelsey's washed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm be surprised he played one more year, but

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Speaker 2: does look like he's on his last legs. He had

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Speaker 2: Just because Mike Tomlin won the game this past weekend

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it feels like I'd

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Speaker 2: be more surprised if he came back to Pittsburgh. But

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Speaker 2: also you have to factor in who is better than

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. It's just like we found out with James

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Speaker 2: get of that guy, who were we bringing in? And

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Speaker 2: same thing with Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. Who are you

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Speaker 2: bringing in Who's going to be better than him?

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Speaker 2: Do I think he's underachieved greatly in the last decade,

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Speaker 2: Yes I do. In that city with that talent, yes

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Speaker 2: I do. But the key has been and the key

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Speaker 2: is for every one of these coaches, who's your quarterback?

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Tomlin and I'm part of the draft process,

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Speaker 2: Just like we saw in Denver when Sean Payton came

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Speaker 2: He said, bow Knicks is my quarterback and he wanted

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Speaker 2: He was gonna wait and take the right job because

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Speaker 2: it was Jaden Daniels. That was three months ago, four

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Speaker 3: That changed.

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Speaker 2: That's quick, h he's injury prone. Well that was the

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Speaker 2: He was slight for a quarterback, very talented, had maybe

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Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, it's like, oh, that's right

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Speaker 2: a landslide. Now Drake may might even get a bow

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Speaker 2: hear Andy Reid want to be in a rebuild. I

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Speaker 4: Which would be more important to you? Playing a couple

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Speaker 4: more games of the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 3: Can I have both? You can? But for the sake

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well, this is the thing that I'm curious

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Speaker 2: about with Philip Rivers, because if he makes the roster,

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Speaker 2: and now we reset the clock and it's five more

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Speaker 2: years before he's eligible, I think we're going to be

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Speaker 2: looking at his numbers and all of a sudden they

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Speaker 2: aren't going to be impressive. I think there's so many

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Speaker 2: little bit that he has you know, longevity, durability, put

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Speaker 2: So I wonder about that with Philip, Now, if he

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Speaker 2: say they go to the playoffs. Let's say they win

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Speaker 2: was the curiosity I had that, Okay, Philip has been

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Speaker 3: And I mean, it almost feels like a movie. It does.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a grown up, rudy version of Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, he's out there and he's forty four years

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Speaker 2: come back and there's a chance to add to your resume.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he can take away from his resume

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Speaker 2: if he comes back he doesn't play well. I don't

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Speaker 2: think anybody's expecting that. But if you reset the clock now,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you bring in a whole new

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Speaker 2: wave of quarterbacks that you might be competing for votes with.

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Speaker 2: And he's a semi finalist this year, but once he

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Speaker 2: goes to the active roster, then he's taken out a

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Speaker 2: consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, PAULI, this is what every NFL player wants. They

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Speaker 5: want to come back for four weeks. Steve Young comes

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Speaker 5: on the show every month and says, if I could

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Speaker 5: play right now, I would. You asked JJ Watt if

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Speaker 5: he could walk out of the booth, play two games

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Speaker 5: and they go right back to the booth and push

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Speaker 5: his clock back five years, he probably would. And this

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Speaker 5: is one of those anomaly situations with Breeze that he

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Speaker 5: knows it's a temp job at the most.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but JJ wants a first ball in Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers is not.

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Speaker 5: I guess what Philip Rivers is. I think forty four?

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Speaker 5: You said, yeah, the Hall of Fame is the Hall

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Speaker 5: of Fame or not. And he has no control and

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Speaker 5: he gets to play one or two or three more

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Speaker 5: football games for a good team.

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Speaker 3: This is the dream, Yes, Tod.

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Speaker 6: Not to be Debbie down, but I'll where that had

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Speaker 6: What if it's a total disaster. Though he goes out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I once again, I'm glad I don't vote on

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he gets in grade, I mean it's.

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Speaker 2: Just like Eli. I don't view him as a Hall

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Speaker 2: He won two of the biggest Super Bowls. He stopped

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Speaker 2: It's a great story, great story, and I hope that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pauling.

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Speaker 5: Phil Rivers right now is sixth all time and touchdown

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Speaker 5: passes four twenty one. He's ahead of Marino, Roethlisberger, Matt Stafford. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Once again, it's the eye test, because sometimes when you say, hey,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, I kind of I don't know why,

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Speaker 3: But he was never the best quarterback of his era.

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Speaker 4: Not the best, but one of the best for sure.

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Speaker 5: Stat wise? He was always there with touchdowns. He only

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so never the best quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But no, he went against some pretty pretty impressive resumes there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulin, this.

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Speaker 5: Comes down to not appearing in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Well, he didn't do well in the playoffs. Yes, I

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Speaker 5: Yes, his record in the postseason is five and seven

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll settle on a poll question.

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Speaker 2: The Notre Dame story is not going away because they're

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Speaker 2: we'll get to your phone calls as well, And I

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Speaker 2: think anything else that needs to be mentioned here, anything anything, Yes.

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Speaker 5: I have a bonus.

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Speaker 3: Whose career would you want oh goodness, four cars? Whose

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Speaker 2: If Philip Rivers starts for the Colts at any point,

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Speaker 2: well let's say he starts on Sunday, that'll be a

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Speaker 2: you can go back to nineteen seventy. That's as far

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Speaker 2: eighty seven. Well, I remember covering those games. I was

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Speaker 2: But the strike year nineteen eighty seven, we'll get phone

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Speaker 2: calls coming up. Notre Dame press conference yesterday the athletic

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Speaker 3: Now, this this was a scheduled press conference.

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Speaker 2: I think there were a lot of people, including myself,

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Speaker 2: after coming on our show and talking about how there

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Speaker 2: apparently didn't go to bat or had some disparaging comments

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Speaker 2: They are with the other sports. So I understand they're

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Speaker 2: go to a bowl game, the ACC doesn't get money

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Speaker 2: from Notre Dame. So I understand some of this, and

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Speaker 2: people in my business, don't let your hatred for Notre

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Speaker 2: with both sides. Or you know, your love for Notre Dame,

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Speaker 2: don't let that cloud your judgment with this. I think

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Speaker 3: What we were.

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Speaker 9: Really surprised by and disappointed was how the ACC conference

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Speaker 9: And you know, we made our feelings known that we

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Speaker 9: didn't particularly understand this, and it just kind of puzzled

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Speaker 9: guess chose to go down that road. I guess intellectually

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Speaker 9: I understand it, but I certainly don't agree with it.

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Speaker 9: And why would you attack an unbelievably important business partner

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Speaker 2: Okay, once again, Miami's affiliation with the ACC is a

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Speaker 3: It feels like there's a hey, you.

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Speaker 2: Guys got you wanted this, you got it, you deserve this,

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Speaker 2: everything but football. I mean, I don't know what permanent

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Speaker 2: he came in. He's not happy with Notre Dame.

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Speaker 7: I will say this, and I'm and I'm a little

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Speaker 7: It's been egregious going after Jim Phillips. When they saved

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Speaker 7: that as Notre Dame in Miami got closer together head

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Speaker 7: to head would be a factor. Okay, BYU lost, they

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Speaker 3: So I think he is totally out of bounds in

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's the big twelve Commissioner, Rent your mark. The

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Speaker 2: that's what we signed up for, because that's what he

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Speaker 2: I do care about the process of this. That's the

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Speaker 2: You know, this is a committee that you know, it's clandestine,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand the process. And I told you about

435
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Speaker 2: teams that play in conference championships. The last twenty two,

436
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Speaker 2: twenty of the last twenty two that lost in a

437
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: conference championship game dropped in the rankings. Alabama this year

438
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Speaker 2: is one of those two. I didn't understand it. I

439
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: thought they got roughed up by Georgia and they should

440
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Speaker 2: have dropped. But once again, when a source tells me

441
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Speaker 2: last week, in his mind, this is before everything happened.

442
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Speaker 2: When he says to me, I think they're setting Notre

443
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Speaker 2: Dame up to be disappointed his words. So something was

444
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Speaker 2: at play, it feels like, and that's where I'm saying

445
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Speaker 2: to people in my business, look at both sides to this.

446
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Speaker 2: Don't let your judgment, you know, your opinion of Notre

447
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Speaker 2: Dame cloud your judgment. That would be the only thing

448
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Speaker 2: that I would say. And you know, Pete Bavoqua on

449
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Speaker 2: this feels like a petty tour. You know, I understand

450
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Speaker 2: where people are going to go, Oh, who do you

451
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Speaker 2: think you are?

452
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Speaker 3: Notre Dames? Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they have a top twelve provision they've somehow navigated

454
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Speaker 2: negotiated that they're going to be in the top twelve

455
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Speaker 2: next year.

456
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Speaker 3: Then they're in the playoffs. This leaked out over the weekend.

457
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Speaker 2: Here is Bavaqua talking about that top twelve provision.

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Speaker 9: People have asked me, well, how come Notre Dame gets

459
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Speaker 9: that benefit, and it's you know, we still we have

460
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Speaker 9: to prove it on the field more than anybody. I mean,

461
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Speaker 9: we still to put ourselves in that area, that zip

462
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Speaker 9: code of a top twelve team, but we want to

463
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Speaker 9: protect ourselves against like what happened this year.

464
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Speaker 2: Okay, why did they give them that top twelve provision?

465
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Speaker 2: If you if you have to earn it on the field,

466
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Speaker 2: then you don't need a top twelve provision.

467
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Speaker 3: That was surprising, Yes, Dodd, wouldn't.

468
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Speaker 6: Every school want to protect themselves in a similar fashion

469
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Speaker 6: if they're going to be a bubble team and in

470
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Speaker 6: and around the twelve spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the en to be guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: The schools and conferences can't do that. I mean Notre

473
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Speaker 2: Dames just stand alone. There's nobody like Notre Dame.

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Speaker 6: Did they offer an explanation why they agreed to that,

475
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Speaker 6: I don't, I don't know. I don't need to explain

476
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Speaker 6: why they said. Okay, yeah, that's I see your point.

477
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Speaker 5: That's okay.

478
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Speaker 2: Somebody should ask the chairman of the committee ask, you know,

479
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Speaker 2: why did you agree to this?

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Speaker 3: Did you agree to this? Why did you agree to this?

481
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Speaker 5: I'm sure he'll join us this week.

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they'd love to. But yeah, that was wild.

483
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Speaker 3: Okay.

484
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Speaker 2: But all of that was going on yesterday, the one

485
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Speaker 2: thing that stood out was Pete Bvakua, the Notre Dame

486
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: athletic director. He talked about Marcus Freeman and he volunteered

487
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Speaker 2: this up about Marcus Freeman, NFL coach.

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Speaker 9: I make sure that he knows that he will be

489
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Speaker 9: where he deserves to be, and that is at the top,

490
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Speaker 9: top top tier of college football coaches when it comes

491
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Speaker 9: to compensation. Every year, I view his contract, although a

492
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Speaker 9: multi year contract, is a living, breathing document that we

493
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Speaker 9: will revise every year as need be to make sure

494
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Speaker 9: he's where he deserves to be. He knows he has

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Speaker 9: that commitment from me and more importantly, from the university.

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Speaker 2: Okay, because there's some chatter, there was chatter last year

497
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Speaker 2: that maybe the Bears would be interested in Marcus Freeman,

498
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Speaker 2: and I think his buyout until they extended it. Contract

499
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: was four million dollars. Now I think it's forty million

500
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: dollars because now the Giants they're on the clock needing

501
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: a coach, and would they be interested in Marcus Freeman.

502
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Speaker 2: And I think that's what Pete Bavaqua was saying, almost

503
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Speaker 2: as if to say, Hey, we're proud that our coaches

504
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: wanted by NFL teams, but he's staying here. That's a

505
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: living breathing document. I don't know what that means. Has

506
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: it got a heartbeat? Most of these college coaches don't

507
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: they have living breathing documents.

508
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Speaker 3: Contract.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, see, just making it known that that is flexible

510
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 4: at any moment. Yeah, I got a new contract this

511
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: week and then another one next week. Yeah, no problem.

512
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Paul.

513
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Speaker 5: It did feel like an announcement to both Marcus Freeman

514
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 5: that if you get an offer, we'll match it, and

515
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 5: to the public if he gets an offer, we're ready

516
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 5: to match it, you know, like, don't even bother.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that kind of stood out that he's addressing

518
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: that the NFL could be interested in Marcus Freeman and

519
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: that they did change the buy out there considerably, I believe,

520
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: from four million to four what to you a million?

521
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: But we know, you know, these things are broken every year.

522
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: It feels like every week.

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00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 6: Yes, ton is that also said to assure himself and

524
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 6: the Notre Dame faithful we're not going to miss out

525
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 6: on the playoff and lose our coaches. Just you know,

526
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 6: those two things are not going to both happen in

527
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 6: a short.

528
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: Period of time.

529
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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, I mean, I don't know all the agendas

530
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: in play here. When Pete agreed to come on and talk,

531
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Speaker 2: knowing what the questions were going to be, and then

532
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: to then say that there's permanent damage that was done

533
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: by the acc he knows what he was doing. Now

534
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fallout. I imagine that we're

535
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: going to revisit this in a month from now or

536
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is certainly going to be like, okay, when

537
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: you say permanent damage, Okay, now what.

538
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: Happens, You're still going to stay in there.

539
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: And then what you're going to say, you know what,

540
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: We're going to go to the big ten.

541
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, I.

542
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: Think that's what I most want to know when people

543
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 5: want to know what was the agenda of the playoff

544
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 5: committee with Notre Dame was the agenda to push them

545
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 5: towards joining a conference, because that's what a lot of

546
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: people think that this would be a nudge toward And

547
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 5: what is Notre Dame doing this week?

548
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't say it's a push or a

549
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: nudge to join a conference and then give the top

550
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: twelve provision to Notre Dame that says, have you finished

551
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: in the top twelve.

552
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: Year in the playoffs?

553
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't have both agendas in play here. And

554
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: if it's true that they said to Notre Dame, if

555
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: you finished in the top twelve, you're in the playoffs.

556
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: While saying oh, looks like they're trying to nudge them

557
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: to join a conference, Notre Dame's not joining a conference.

558
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: They make their own schedule. I mean, you're going to

559
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: take the hit, you get all the money, Like, you're

560
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: not gonna do this, You're going to join the ACC.

561
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: Why would you join the ACC for football?

562
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, is there another athletic team, pro or college

563
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 5: that makes their own schedule? I mean, think about it.

564
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 5: There's nothing in professional or college sports like Notre Dame.

565
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 5: They're an island. They don't answer to anybody. If a

566
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 5: player gets in trouble, they don't have to answer to

567
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 5: a conference commissioner, they don't have to share playoff shares.

568
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 5: They'll take the hit.

569
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: The Harlem Globe Trotters make their own schedule.

570
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 5: I always play that one team though.

571
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of logistics though, still, oh yeah, that's true.

572
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: Yes, Todd.

573
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 6: If they try to, for lack of a better word,

574
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 6: join a conference and it did wasn't up to what

575
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: they had in mind, can you go back to being independent?

576
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 6: Or once the toothpast, you can't put the toothpaste back

577
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 6: in the tube.

578
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 5: How does that work?

579
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 6: We'll try this for a year or two and or

580
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 6: make some kind of deal with a conference, and then

581
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 6: all of a sudden they decide I liked it back

582
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 6: the way it was. Could they do that?

583
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: Why would you join a conference for a year or

584
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: whatever whatever the deal is?

585
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 6: Over what a four or five year period of time

586
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 6: that they thought this was, you know, now is the

587
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 6: time to join a conference and it ends up being

588
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 6: something that they wish they didn't do, and now they

589
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 6: want to be independent again. Is that something they'd be

590
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 6: able to do well?

591
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

592
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: I don't think that's something that is on the table

593
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: that they have the greatest luxury in college football. There's

594
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: no reason to join a conference, and if you're going

595
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: to join a conference, you're not all of a sudden

596
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: going to go you know, on second thought, we didn't

597
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: really think this out, Yeah, Paul.

598
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: The other thing about Notre Dame and which makes them

599
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: both likable and hateable, is that they are special and

600
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: because of this not special necessary positive and negative, but

601
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 5: that they control everything and the brand is they had

602
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 5: their own network. They're in this kind of no man's

603
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 5: land of college football in a good way. So they're

604
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 5: never going to give that up totally.

605
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: No, No, there's so many schools that would love to

606
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: be in the same position with Notre Dame. They would,

607
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: but this is going to continue and we'll see what

608
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: the repercussions are with the ACC moving forward there. But

609
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: I would ask that Big twelve commissioner, if he would

610
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: come on, how would you have felt if BYU got

611
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: jumped by Miami and BYU your team in your conference

612
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: didn't play. I would ask all these conference commissioners because

613
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: nobody's going to say, oh, oh, you know what, that's

614
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: what we signed up for. So I think it's disingenuous

615
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: of the Big twelve commissioner to be critical of Notre

616
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: Dame and Pete Babaqua for that part of this. The

617
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: other stuff you can be critical of Notre Dame. Yeah

618
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: you can. Oh, you gotta take your ball and go. Oh,

619
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: you guys think you're bigger than Yes, they probably do.

620
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: They probably are.

621
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: Yes.

622
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: I hate to break it to you, Yeah they are.

623
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: That's why they're able to do these things in college.

624
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: And the committee is saying you are bigger because you

625
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: get a top twelve provision.

626
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: Fine. Bamb will be firing though, he'll be He'll be Oh,

627
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: he'll be all this is.

628
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 5: T ball for him.

629
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Oh, he's going to be crushing Notre Dame a little

630
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: later on when he joins this. We'll take a break.

631
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got up there a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: Philip Rivers poll question. Okay, which would be more important

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Speaker 4: to you? Playing a few more games or sort of

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Speaker 4: getting the Hall of Fame voting going. It's a little

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Speaker 4: tough to word that, I guess, okay, so not getting

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Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame, but pushing so pushing the

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Speaker 4: voting back five years, or let's get the voting going

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Speaker 4: right now? Yeah, you know, or you can play a

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Speaker 4: couple of games right now. Playing a few more games

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Speaker 4: has about fifty five percent of that vote, which I

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Speaker 4: agree with, I think I think Paul had brought it up.

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Speaker 4: But the one thing these guys all want is the

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Speaker 4: ability to play a couple more games and then Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Aye, you get in. That'd be cool.

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Speaker 4: If you don't get in, whatever, I know what I

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Speaker 4: did well, this and that, but man, the ability to

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Speaker 4: play a couple more game seats.

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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers is never getting that chance again. Yeah, but I.

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Speaker 2: Think the further he gets pushed back, the clock resets,

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Speaker 2: the tougher it's going to be for him to get in.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety, there have been eleven mon modern era

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks elected to the Hall of Fame. Ten of those

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Speaker 2: were elected in the first year of eligibility, Dan Fouts,

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Speaker 2: Joe Montana, Jim Kelly, John Elway, Dan Marino, Steve Young,

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Speaker 2: Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning. Dan

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Speaker 2: Fouts was the one who was not elected in his

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Speaker 2: first year of eligibility.

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Speaker 10: Oh how stand of the day, start of the day,

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Speaker 10: start of the day, stant of to day. This is

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Speaker 10: the state of the day?

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Speaker 3: Oh's Amy? Kurt Warner. I didn't even mention him on there,

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Speaker 3: did I?

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Speaker 5: Now it's towards the bottom.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Warner does make sense though, Oh Kurt, Yeah, Kurt

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Speaker 2: Warner elected on the third bound. I'm surprised Dan Faults

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Speaker 2: was the first Battlet Hall of Famer. Very good quarterback

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Speaker 2: with Aeric Coriel. But you know, they went to a

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Speaker 2: conference title game. Maybe they maybe they went to two,

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Speaker 2: but they lost the game to the Bengals. They had that,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, they would have beaten the Dolphins. And then

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Speaker 2: they played Cincinnati the next week in the AFC title

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Speaker 2: game and lost that. And I could see Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: similar to Dan Fouts in Fouts. You know, that offense

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Speaker 2: was wonderful to watch. Yeah, Pauline, I could see that too,

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Speaker 2: Fouts and Rivers being compared. Chargers not making the big game.

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Speaker 2: But there was a four year window where Fouts led

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Speaker 2: the NFL passing and seemed to reinvent it almost before

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Speaker 2: Dan Marino. And he was first team All Pro twice,

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Speaker 2: second team All Pro twice. That's a monster run. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: right before Dan Reno showed up. Yeah, had Charlie Joyner,

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Speaker 2: John Jefferson. They had some fun offensive players. Man, hey

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Speaker 2: they you know those uniforms you always looked faster you

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Speaker 2: always looked better.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like somebody who shows up in a tuxedo, they

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Speaker 2: always look better because they're in a tuxedo.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we should do a list.

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Speaker 5: Of teams that you rooted for if you didn't have

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Speaker 5: a dog in the fight, or let's say you're an

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Speaker 5: NFC fan because the eighties Chargers were up there, UNLV

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Speaker 5: Rebels basketball. If you didn't have a team, they were

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Speaker 5: cool back in the day and you just kind of

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Speaker 5: glmbed on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Fab five as well.

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Speaker 2: I had a couple of phone calls in here, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna play whose career would you want?

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Speaker 11: Paul?

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Speaker 3: You want to get? Are we getting stats? And then

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Speaker 3: we decide whose career.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna go names and bios.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, whose career would you want?

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Speaker 5: The first one is Philip Rivers. I think he made

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Speaker 5: seven Pro Bowls, never made it to a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: was never an MVP. Okay. Or Matt Ryan, four time

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Speaker 5: Pro bowler, won an MVP but had probably the most

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Speaker 5: and maybe not probably the most painful loss in Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl history.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have Matt Ryan's career. He won an MVP

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Speaker 2: and he went to the Super Bowl. I like how

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Speaker 2: we put all the blame on Matt Ryan and not

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Speaker 2: on the coaching staff.

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Speaker 5: You know, but you still this is a toughie.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have Matt Ryan's career MVP and he went

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Speaker 2: to a super Bowl and he's probably going to the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Wow, you guys have turned on me.

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Speaker 2: It's the holiday season.

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Speaker 5: It's not anti Matt Ryan. It's anti resume.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I think it's anti me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, even though that was it's not Matt

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Speaker 4: Ryan's fault that they lost that game by any stretch

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Speaker 4: of the imagination.

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Speaker 3: But is there a butt.

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Speaker 4: Well no, But I would still want to get there.

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Speaker 4: I want to play in the super Bowl, even if

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Speaker 4: it is this crushing loss that haunts him every single.

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Speaker 5: Day he wakes up out of a sweat.

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Speaker 3: He does. I believe he still does, because he gets

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Speaker 3: asked about it. Every round of golf he plays, three

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Speaker 3: people ask him about it. I know.

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Speaker 2: I know every super Bowl when he comes on, he

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Speaker 2: knows he's getting asked the question. I have to kind

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Speaker 2: of disguise it in a way that we somehow get

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Speaker 2: there and then he answers it again.

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Speaker 5: Last time wade him on, we asked him about the

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Speaker 5: worst loss and we met the NFL weekend. What are

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Speaker 5: we getting to, Dan?

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Speaker 3: Yeh like a trigger. He's right, He's right.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize it, but I wasn't talking about the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That's not what we're saying. Oh my god.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 2: David in Ohio leads us off. Hi, David, what's on

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Speaker 2: your mind?

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Speaker 11: Hey? What's up?

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Speaker 8: Dan?

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Speaker 11: I got four order quarterback Ryan time here for you

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Speaker 11: for the room. Okay, First one is uh Steelers and

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Speaker 11: World Series.

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Speaker 2: Winner Steelers World Yes time, Rogers Dodgers.

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Speaker 11: Correct, I'd got that one. Next one, uh Fox analyst

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Speaker 11: and Sketchy Fox analyst, sketchy older.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback Brady Shady. Brady Shady got that one.

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Speaker 11: Number two? Yeah, all right, number third one here, Uh

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Speaker 11: Bengals QB and Cigar Bengals QUB Cigar.

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Speaker 3: Older older quarterback Boomer.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 11: He's currently on the roster, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Oh Older, Oh Flacco Tobacco.

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Speaker 2: He did, Thank you, thank you, thank you, David. That's

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Speaker 2: pretty good, pretty good. One hour in the books.

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Speaker 3: Two more to go.

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Speaker 2: You should give Dominique Fox where the heads up that

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Speaker 2: he's going to have to decide. Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famers