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Speaker 1: You're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horshak.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to in the Vets Office. I

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Speaker 2: am your host, doctor Josie, and I am so excited

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Speaker 2: for today because I have the best guest here. We

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Speaker 2: have Miss Tarran Feldman in the Vets Office.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Josie.

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Speaker 2: Taran is first and foremost my friend, but secondly, she

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Speaker 2: is the celebrity hair and makeup artist in Nashville. She's

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Speaker 2: doing glam for pretty much everyone. But we're talking like

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Speaker 2: Reese Witherspoon, Kelsey Vallerini, Trisha Yearwood, anyone that is in

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Speaker 2: also has her own podcast called The Touch Up Podcast.

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Speaker 2: And if you're not listening to this, you should because

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you could moonlight as a comedian. You're

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Speaker 2: so nice, You're so funny. And then, last, not least,

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Speaker 2: she is a dog mom. And she's a really good

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Speaker 2: dog mom. And I know that firsthand because I am

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Speaker 2: lucky enough to take care of her animals. Welcome, Karen, Hi, Hi,

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Speaker 2: thanks for having me. You're so welcome. Last time I

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Speaker 1: We've been in Florida in the Keys, partying on the beach.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the concrete building. For those watching this podcast,

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Speaker 2: this is not cute. This is not our normal studio.

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Speaker 2: We are in the mix of moving, so just be resuilding.

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Speaker 1: We are building twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Watch out when we come back in twenty eighty five.

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Speaker 2: I'll best are off you bitches.

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Speaker 1: Wish yeah, are not ready? Wish you could never?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, before we dive into all things, yes,

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Speaker 2: we're going to do our case of the week. This

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Speaker 2: is where I talk about any kind of case. It

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Speaker 2: can be interesting, funny that I have seen in the trenches,

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Speaker 2: if you will. And this particular case it was not

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Speaker 2: so much medical. I had a man I cannot remember

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Speaker 2: his name, but he came to his four o'clock on

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Speaker 2: a Friday appointment with his big dog name Thunder. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: we're this is just gonna be a great visit.

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Speaker 1: You know, big dog's name Thunder, Big.

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Speaker 2: Dog names thunder. He walks in. You can tell he's

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Speaker 2: like kind of in a bad mood. He like hands

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Speaker 2: me the dog's leash. He sits down. I don't really

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Speaker 2: see because he's got a big coat on. But all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, he pulls out a twelve pack of

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Speaker 2: PBR Okay, sets them down next to him, pulls a

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Speaker 2: coozy out of his pocket, takes a PBR out, pops

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Speaker 2: it open, sticks in his koozy, and just chugs the

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Speaker 2: whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe he's getting divorced.

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Speaker 2: Right in front of me.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, this profession's amazing because

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Speaker 2: you don't go to your doctor's office and do that.

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Speaker 2: You certainly don't go to your dentist and do that.

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Speaker 2: But your vet, Like, why the hell not?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Sure, all bets are off, have a nice little

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Speaker 1: cocktail at your vet's office.

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Speaker 2: I also have had another time where it was a euthanasia,

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Speaker 2: so a little bit more sad of an appointment. And

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Speaker 2: doctor Isabella, who's on this podcast for those of you

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Speaker 2: who listen, And she asked the mom, She said, was

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Speaker 2: and she said, oh no, it's okay. I've had five

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Speaker 2: Stanley like there's still some in here, okay, and she was.

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Speaker 1: Like, okay, thank you for sharing. That chucks out, thank

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Speaker 1: you for sharing. It's that's definitely a moment that you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I am just always reminded that this

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Speaker 2: profession we see the highest of highs peoples and lives

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Speaker 2: of free zone. You need a PBR on a Friday

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Speaker 2: or a white claw before euthanasia and you do you boo.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. Thunder might be a lot to deal

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Speaker 1: with exactly. You might need them PBRs.

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Speaker 2: With a name like Thunder, you were destined for greatness

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Speaker 2: and probably a couple of PBRs on perc. Yes, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just thought that was interesting. All Right, we are

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Speaker 2: doctor Josie.

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Speaker 3: My name's Belinda and I have to tuolow mixes. But

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Speaker 3: they are both older, like nine years old or so,

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Speaker 3: and is it too late to create train them? And

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Speaker 2: I do that. I really like this question because I

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Speaker 2: think it applies to humans too, whether you're a dog

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's never too late.

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Speaker 2: It is never too late, okay, And in fact, I

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Speaker 2: think so often old people and probably old dogs feel

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Speaker 2: to sit, to stay, whatever it may be. Cute cute,

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Speaker 2: and so create trading is fairly easy. It's a lot

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Speaker 2: of repetition. You want to have your create out wherever

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Speaker 2: you're most frequent in the house, usually like your living room.

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Speaker 2: Leave the door open so that way your dog feels

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Speaker 2: Put some treats in there, feed them their food in there,

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Speaker 2: or when you're leaving the house. But start slow. Lots

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Speaker 2: of positive reinforcement. And just because they're old does not

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Speaker 1: I love that good to know. Although I think Lucy,

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Speaker 2: Lucy's amazing. I want to talk. I also feel like

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Speaker 1: She'll like run away from me sometimes like who are you?

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Speaker 2: Like I birth to you.

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Speaker 1: We've been together for sixteen years, Like I birthed you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And they pace a lot too, doesn't she

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Speaker 1: It is, And I think, what is it with old dogs?

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Speaker 1: Why do they get the slippies and the slighties on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they there's like a number

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Speaker 2: of reasons they can. It's kind of like your grandma,

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Speaker 2: which is very cute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I tried the little nail caps but that didn't

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Speaker 2: They are cute though.

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Speaker 2: the booties, which you can really get any brand, those

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's jump into question number two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hi, doctor Josie.

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Speaker 4: I'm calling regarding my dog. He is a wired hair terrier.

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Speaker 4: He's a rescue but I've had him since seven weeks.

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Speaker 4: He's three years old and recently, I mean it's been

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like this question too because two things come

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Speaker 2: to mind for me, one of which is, again, our

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Speaker 2: as they get older, like for example, what you eat Like,

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Speaker 2: I didn't like carrots seven years ago. No, I love karrot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so he made just his preferences might be changing. Also,

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Speaker 2: there are with behavioral change. Is being a vet. One

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Speaker 2: That can cause them to have behavioral changes. So if

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Speaker 2: safe than sorry. Yes, take them to your vet, get

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Speaker 2: preference change. They are just like us.

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Speaker 1: Did she say how long it was going on for

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Speaker 1: a couple of months? Oh yeah, that's that's long enough

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is weird exactly if it's like once or twice, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Interesting dogs, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, nah, they can change things up a little bit

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Speaker 2: more usually, like more than usual. But cats are like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, creatures of habits.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have cats.

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Speaker 2: As I say, have you ever had cats?

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, it's the cutest thing ever.

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Speaker 2: I never put a like interspecies relationships. I love that, Tarren.

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Speaker 1: Marry me peace. We are here to celebrate Tarn and Josie.

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Speaker 2: My god, I know. Okay, we have to get you

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Speaker 1: You know, But I might I might just get another dog.

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Speaker 2: Well that's also a great option. Tell me about Orville.

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Speaker 2: I haven't really spent damage time because he's fairly new.

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Speaker 2: on the phone and again, I have two different kinds

436
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 2: of owners that are like I maybe not even two

437
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 2: different kinds, but I like what you said. You were

438
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: just like I need you to come look at this

439
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: dog and be objective and tell me is this the

440
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: right decision or is it not the right decision. I

441
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: think we as veterinarians kind of forget that that is

442
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 2: our job is to help guide you and like we

443
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: and I don't want the owners to ever have to

444
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: like feel like they're the judge and jury with their

445
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: dogs passing, you know, like that's on me, Like I

446
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: should help you make that decision, right, And so I

447
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: totally got that, and I hope that if there's any

448
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 2: veterinarians listening out there, like we remember that, like we

449
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: should be the ones throwing youth in asia on the

450
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: table and saying like it's okay, and like this is

451
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: the right decision to be making for this petah, because

452
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: it's really heard. Even myself as a vet when it's

453
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: my own dog, I had to have my husband be

454
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: like it's time. Yeah, you lose all when it's your

455
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 2: own pet, you lose all objectiveness.

456
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's weird. I mean, I definitely think Twila

457
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: prepped me for Leila, But you don't you like you

458
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: think you're like, my life's gonna be over when this

459
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: dog dies, Hell will freeze over, like I'll die. But

460
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: there's something that kicks in and I think it's just

461
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: your love for them, yes, that you just you love

462
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: them so much that you're just like, I'm not putting

463
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: you through another ounce. You can't spare a second to

464
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: see themselves of like pain. And I think that's like

465
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: just ultimately what it was so like easy and easy,

466
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: even though it's not an easy decision, but it made

467
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: it easier. Just you just know she's in pain. Yeah,

468
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: that's it, It's done.

469
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

470
00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: And and and if you have an old dog, how

471
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: wonderful is that? The luckiest Laila was sixteen.

472
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's unbelievable.

473
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Twila was eleven or twelve. I'll never know, but

474
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: I think she was like eleven or twelve. She may

475
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: have been thirteen. And Lucy's sixteen and a half.

476
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 2: Amazing, she's strucking yeah doing it.

477
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: And I feel like she's got like another six months

478
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: left inner.

479
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: I love that really longer. It is funny at the end,

480
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: I feel like we cling on to like, oh, but

481
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to live without them. I don't want

482
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: like I can't bear this pain of losing them. But ultimately,

483
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: like just like you said, like, but I love them

484
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: more than I love myself. Yeah, so, and I could

485
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: can't keep them alive just to make me less sad

486
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: for a few more days.

487
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Speaker 1: Well, and with Laila, Twila didn't she wasn't that old

488
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: that her. She was still Twila. Laila wasn't Layla anymore,

489
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: and Layla hadn't been Laila in a really long time.

490
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: When after she died, I was going through like old video,

491
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: those old photos, and I'm just like, oh, I didn't realize.

492
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: I've just gotten so used to taking care like of

493
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 1: these geriatric dogs.

494
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: They're runing a nursing home.

495
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: They're just not even themselves anymore. They're so different, you know,

496
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: which just gave me a little bit more piece of.

497
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: Did you ever feel like they are something called caregiver

498
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: like compassion overload? Did you ever feel that where you're

499
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: like this is like tough on me, or you're just like, no,

500
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: I love them so much that I don't even think

501
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: about it.

502
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: No, the last like year and a half two years

503
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: have been really hard.

504
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: I bet, I bet.

505
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: It's extremely hard taking care of old dogs and then

506
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: having them die back to back. Yeah, and just all

507
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: I do is take worry about them, take care of them,

508
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: fork out money.

509
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 2: I think there's a crazy fun of listeners that are

510
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: going to resonate with that, because.

511
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what like what the fuck ouse. That's what

512
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: my job is though, and I take it's serious, but

513
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: it gets I mean, I'm all I do is clean

514
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: up piss and shit or puke or like somebody's sick.

515
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we all had uh the norovirus together.

516
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I had it, and then they had it.

517
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: What a time to be alive?

518
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then and then a couple of years ago,

519
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: like four years ago, they all decided to uh do

520
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: a group suicide mission and ate a bottle of carprofen,

521
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: the strongest fucking car Profen. They all shared it and

522
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: they stayed in the er for like six days.

523
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: That's a group suicide. I'm gackling. I was like, there's.

524
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: Just try to cult group suicide themselves. You're like, I

525
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: was coming home from the Bahamas and I got a

526
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: phone call and I was like, they gotta go to

527
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: they gotta go to an emergency. Yeah, we don't. I

528
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: can guess who probably ate the most. I know who

529
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: got the bottle open, but they probably all they were

530
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: the car Profen. That's another hack. Never have the treat

531
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: carprofen ever, great hack. They will eat all of it

532
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: and then die and just shove a pill down their throat.

533
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: Never get medicine in a treat form. Yeah, this shouldn't

534
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: even be offered.

535
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: Or if you do, keep it up in the lock.

536
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I have seen that so many times.

537
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was terrible. I was so stressed out.

538
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine. So all of them went to the yar.

539
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: All of them had it in their system. We just

540
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: didn't know, like you know, because they're all different sizes,

541
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: and I was just like, well flush them all, I

542
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: don't know, like pump everyone's stomach. Like it's like, what's

543
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: the bill? And then I got a dog insurance so

544
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: that yes, yeah.

545
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: After that's another thing. I need to do a whole

546
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: episode on insurance for our pets, which I will get

547
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: to that, but it's if you can get it, especially

548
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: before have any issues wrong with them. I highly recomon.

549
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: I had it for Twila and everything was probably forty

550
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: grand I maybe paid nine.

551
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's that there you go, well that yeah,

552
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: say less, yeah okay.

553
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: And then after she died, they were so awful to

554
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: deal with. I had to keep calling back and reminding

555
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: them to take her off the thing, and they wouldn't.

556
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, if I have to tell you

557
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: this story one more time, I'm gonna lose my mind. Yeah. So,

558
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: and they tried to like up my premium like one

559
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: hundred more dollars even though I only had two pets

560
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: now instead of three. Yeah, so I just canceled it.

561
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: They were great for a minute in met Life.

562
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: At least they covered we won't be getting sponsored by them.

563
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

564
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh it's okay. I mean, hey, it is your experience.

565
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

566
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would say, like especially when they're young,

567
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: because they will do things like eat carprofen and all

568
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: the random things that dogs do.

569
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's time, what it's time?

570
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: Hilarious?

571
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: Was that Twyla, Lucy and Layla.

572
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah they all fucking did it?

573
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: Okay, God, yeah they all did it? Great?

574
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: Great? Great? Yep?

575
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: Did they all the three of them get along having

576
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: the big pity mix with two littles?

577
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Twyla had like small dog syndrome. She

578
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: literally thought she didn't like she just I think it's

579
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: like a boxer thing. They're just like always think somebody's

580
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: mad at them. Yeah, so she would just try and

581
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: make herself so small. Yeah. But I've I had Lucy

582
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: and Layla since they were babies like I found Leila

583
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Griffith Park. I got Lucy off Craigslist, like I've had

584
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: them since I was twenty four.

585
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: What was it like picking up a dog off Craigslist?

586
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: I saw her photo and I was like, that's my dog.

587
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: And then did you feel like you're gonna get taken

588
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: at any point? Or was it a seamless without transis?

589
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: It was twenty years ago, okay, so it was safe.

590
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: Then it was safe. I drove Orange County and got her.

591
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Just for all listeners out there, I do not recommend.

592
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, don't do that doing it anymore?

593
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: No, no, no, don't do that. Go to years wags and walks.

594
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah, do a rescue at wax Yeah, do

595
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: a rescue, do your local shelter, do anything else but that?

596
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: Which is where Orvill's from right.

597
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: Orbs from wagon walks. I saw him and I was like,

598
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: give me that dude.

599
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 2: What's his name? Orville? When you adopted him?

600
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: No, it Wasbata. You're lying, And I said no, I

601
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: actually tried to take two, did you? Yeah? I sure did.

602
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 2: On sour dough.

603
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like they're the litter. They told me that

604
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't because puppies bond and then they won't yond

605
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: with anybody else.

606
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: This is a big thing littermates. We don't remammend adopting

607
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: litter mates. They're either going to be like, like you said,

608
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: super bonded and it doesn't end very well for anyone

609
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: in the home, or they fight like thoge into like

610
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: vicious fights. Yeah, so I'm glad you only had Chibata.

611
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah what a name, what a time? Or what a sandwich?

612
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: And now he's our little popcorn boy.

613
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, he's just Orville and he's such an

614
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: Orville he is.

615
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: One hundred Yeah. Okay, of all the celebrities that you've glammed,

616
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: who would you say? I mean, I feel like they're

617
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 2: all pretty big animal lovers. Are there anywhere you're like, ooh,

618
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: this is a big animal lover.

619
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean Trisha or Wood's a huge animal lover. She

620
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: has three dogs, dog rescue. She's just super into.

621
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, great that I didn't know this because I'm

622
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: not from Nashville, and I'm like, wasn't really in the

623
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: country music scene. But that is Garth Brooks's wife. Correct, Okay,

624
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: got it, Big dog.

625
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: Lady Chenowith has a dog named Thunder. She's like always

626
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: has a dog.

627
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: Yes, another dog named Thunder.

628
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: Another Thunder.

629
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: I wonder if Kristen drinks pbr at her visits.

630
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: She's not, She's not a maybe some moove. Yeah, I

631
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: was gonna say a little champagne. Yeah. Chelsea Handler has

632
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: always had dogs. She lost two dogs, and now she

633
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: has a guy named Doug. I haven't met him though yet.

634
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: She's a dog named Yeah, he's a fluffy chow amazing.

635
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he seems like a cool guy.

636
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: Does she live in La?

637
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: She lives in La Okay? Yeah?

638
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: Cool.

639
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

640
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: I feel like takes care of Chelsey her dot Kelsey

641
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: Ballerini a lot.

642
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Who else? I mean, my friend Kelly Bannon has

643
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: two pugs, Like they're just everybody's got. They're a little guy. Yeah.

644
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: I feel like pretty much all the people we surround

645
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: ourselves with like animals for the most part.

646
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't like animals, I just I know

647
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: a couple of people something they don't like animals, and

648
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's probably why you're kind of shitty. Sorry,

649
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, oh sorry.

650
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: That's so funny. I mean, hey, she said it.

651
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: I will say it. I'll put it. I'll make merch

652
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: merch dropping soon.

653
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Speaker 2: You don't like animals, you're shitty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kind of shitty. There's something shitty about you. Yeah.

655
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: Sure, have you ever or would you ever date it

656
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: guy that didn't like your dogs? No, but you never have.

657
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah, my ex wasn't really as like involved as

658
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Speaker 1: I would have loved.

659
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: But that's why he's an ex.

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Speaker 1: That's why he's an ex.

661
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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was always on my like bucket list of like,

663
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Speaker 1: marry a guy that will let you have all the

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Speaker 1: animals and then lo and behold here I am, here's Aj,

665
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Speaker 1: Here's Aj and Aj. The older the dog, the better,

666
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: more disabled, the better. Like he just take it. Yeah,

667
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: he just is Like I was like, oh, I kind

668
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: of want to get another dog, like because you know,

669
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: Lucy could care less about Orville and she just wants

670
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: to like sleep in bed next to me and just

671
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Speaker 1: take naps. And Orville's just like chomping at the bits.

672
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: Just I feel like he needs a little guy, like

673
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: a little friend. And he's like, well, let's go to

674
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: the shelter. Let's go. Yeah, And I'm like, oh, you dude,

675
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Speaker 1: you you're my guy.

676
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: You should propose. You should propose, No, you should propose me.

677
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: He tells me all the time he's gonna marry me.

678
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that.

679
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Speaker 1: It's a timing thing.

680
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: This is a side note, but Taran was doing my

681
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: glam for my podcast cover and you had I kind

682
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Speaker 2: of forgot about that started talking to AJ and You're like,

683
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if he likes me, and then you

684
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: showed me his messages and I'm like, Taren, I'm pretty

685
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: sure he likes you. And now you're together.

686
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we're together. Well, you know, guys are dumb.

687
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Speaker 2: He's a comedian, isn't he.

688
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

689
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: Do you guys joke make funny jokes at home, but

690
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: like on your walls?

691
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, he's he's a funny guy. He's much more

692
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: like quiet and reserved I mean you've met.

693
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: Him, yeah, than when he's on stage.

694
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. But when he's on stage is like where he

695
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: thrives and shines, where like I am like miss his personality.

696
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm just so loud and outgoing in real life, but

697
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: if you caught me on stage, I would just like

698
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: freeze up, freeze up.

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Speaker 2: You're a good yin to each other's yang. Yeah, totally

700
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Speaker 2: do you guys do anything funny with the animals, like

701
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: singed them, took them in a certain way, like anything,

702
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: like any weird routines.

703
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we like laugh at Orville a lot because

704
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: he's so funny, and we'll be like, oh my god, babe,

705
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: look how cute. Oh my god, look how cute? And

706
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: there's like so many photos.

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Speaker 2: Do you narrate them? Do they have voices?

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00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: A little bit? Orville a little bit because he's just

709
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: such a crackhead. Yeah, And Lucy's just like I can't,

710
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: I just, oh my god, let me know when this

711
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: guy goes to jail, like she's.

712
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: She's like one hundred year old New Yorker that's chain smokes.

713
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, she just wants to play gin rummy.

714
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a little majong like Love's Party.

715
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like sniffing lines of coke. He's just such

716
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: a fucking crackheat.

717
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: I love him so much, hilarious.

718
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: I know he's so sweet.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Well, we're gonna thank you. That was amazing.

720
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: I love all your animals and you. We're gonna take

721
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Speaker 2: a quick break and then we're gonna come back and

722
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: we're gonna I've into pawn Order. All right, we're back

723
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: for our paw and Order, and usually we play the

724
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: intro music, but today we have the vocal recordings of

725
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: tarn Feldman.

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00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: Hit it dum dum boom boom d.

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Speaker 2: We nailed it, nailed it. You think this is a

728
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: veterinary podcast, isn't. We are multi talented. Alright, So number

729
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: one on the list this week, I would not feed

730
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: my dog or cat a raw diet.

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00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: People.

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00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you how many listeners I have had

733
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: contact me about this. They want to feed them raw meat.

734
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: And I cannot say this loud enough. You should not

735
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: do that because a your pets. I have seen so

736
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: many pets get sick from this. There's a lot of

737
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: bacteria and raw meat. And I've also had owners get

738
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: sick from feeding raw food.

739
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: Ew, cook it. Why can't you just cook it? Yeah?

740
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: Cook it, totally, give.

741
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: Them everything, gizzards, duck liver, cook it though.

742
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, you got to cook it. You've got to

743
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: cook it. Raw meat is really disgusting. Yeah, it's for yeah,

744
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: for wolves. Yeah, and I'm sure they're like my little

745
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: chill wahwahs. Ancestors at some point may have eaten a

746
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: piece of raw meat. But if I was to give

747
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: him something raw, it would not be cute.

748
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure my dogs would get they're too domestic.

749
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: No, yeah, they wouldn't like it.

750
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: Carprofen only we're on a strict drug deck. I mean,

751
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: they're a little drug addictes. I don't even know what

752
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: to say. It's embarrassing, hilarious.

753
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: Okay, number two, I wouldn't leave my chewing gum unattended.

754
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 2: A lot of dogs love to get into chewing gum.

755
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: In the words of Aran, they might be doing a

756
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: suicide mission.

757
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: Always gum. Really, I mean I would think so.

758
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: But uh oh, gum has xylotol in it, which is

759
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: an artificial sweetener, and it makes their blood pressure drop

760
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: like very dangerously. They have hospitalize. It's a whole thing. Yes, guys,

761
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: I know, watch your gum, hide your gun.

762
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: Watch your SIGs, watch your drugs, watch your gum, watch

763
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: your pertription drugs, all the thing. Get it together. What

764
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: are you doing the gun?

765
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: Are you doing the gum, the chewing gum? I don't

766
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: know why. This is no science. This is just my experience.

767
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: Golden retrievers love chewing gum. It's almost always a Golden

768
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: Retriever for me. That's so funny, isn't that funny?

769
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: Those little shits? Yeah, what do you what do you

770
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: trying to do right now?

771
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: They want fresh breath, They want fresh breath.

772
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: Just give them a little puppy Mine have puppy man,

773
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. But grow up, be an adult and get

774
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: a drug drawer like everybody else. God, lock it up,

775
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: yez ass all right.

776
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: Number three, we're really sticking on the drug here.

777
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: Because I never give my dogs cocaine.

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00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: That's number four for today. No Number three. I would

779
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: not smoke in front of my pets. I am any

780
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: anything really, cigarettes mainly cigarettes, fape. I think it's fine,

781
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: it's mainly Yeah, I have seen it. I am an

782
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: animal doctor. I do not care if you smoke SIGs

783
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: like you do you boo, But animals. I have had

784
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: dogs and cats develop asthma.

785
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, second hands pool, what are you doing? Yeah?

786
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 2: I know this is like really turning into us lecturing listeners.

787
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: Well, at some point, just grow up. Yeah.

788
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: So, if you're gonna smoke, smoke outside and don't smoke.

789
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: I have seen there's also videos going around if people

790
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: are smoking weed and then blowing it in their pets faces,

791
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: trying to get them high. Yeah, that's not I do

792
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: not like that. Yeah, I don't think my listeners are

793
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: doing that. But you know, if you've seen people.

794
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: I can't. Oh my god. People are so like, why

795
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: would you do that? Yeah, dogs don't understand there. They

796
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: would probably be so scared to be that high.

797
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And it's not.

798
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: Funny, No, it's not. I wish we could take animals

799
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: away from people like that.

800
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: It's not funny, it's not cute.

801
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: No. I get riled up. I know we're I know

802
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: I get riled up. I want to beat people. I

803
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: want to evaporate them.

804
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well, if you're not scared now after

805
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: saying this, you should be, because Tarran will find you.

806
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll find you.

807
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: Yes, they're innocent little creatures. I mean they if they

808
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: don't get to make the decision, it's our job to

809
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: protect them and advocate for them. So at the end

810
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: of the day, that's what we have to do. People

811
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: are dumb, Taran. This has been the best that though

812
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: in my life I have laughed, I have sweated, I

813
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: might have beeted a little bit, I had so much fun.

814
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming away.

815
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Having me, doctor Josie, You're so welcome.

816
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: And then if you guys don't follow Terran you should

817
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 2: is it at Tarrean Feldman.

818
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: At Taran Feldman. And then please go to my silly

819
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: little podcast.

820
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: You are guaranteed to laugh.

821
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's fun. It's a beauty podcast, but we

822
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: talk about all kinds of stuff and it's a giggly

823
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: good time.

824
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: I can only imagine it.

825
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

826
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Speaker 2: And then, as always, you can find me at doctor

827
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: Josie Vett on Instagram. Send me your questions. Click the

828
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: link in my bio to record any questions that you

829
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: want to come on the podcast. And then last and

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Speaker 2: not least, rate review, subscribe, give us five stars. Do

831
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: you say that on your podcast? Rate review, subscribe? Oh no,

832
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Speaker 2: I don't. I never remember, and they're always like say

833
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Speaker 2: these wee things.

834
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Speaker 1: You know what. Now I'm going to have to go

835
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Speaker 1: subscribe to our.

836
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Speaker 2: YouTube, go subscribe and rate and review and if it's

837
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: not five stars, don't give us any at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll see you next week. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Bye, tell your dog, I said Hid