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Speaker 1: now you're like Samson, You're winker, You're not the same guy.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. It's

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Speaker 1: the Cubbies coming out of Hibernation edition. How about that?

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Speaker 1: On Friday, the Cubs welcome themselves back into the real

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Speaker 1: world of big market baseball. They made a huge trade

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Speaker 1: for Kyle Tucker. Give up Isazac Parades, Hayden Wiznski and

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Speaker 1: the number fourteen pick in last year's draft, Cam Smith.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that today. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the starting pitching market, We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the athletics, and I'm also going to talk about

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Speaker 1: how I covered the Wan Soto signing with the Mets

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Speaker 1: at the Winter Meetings. But first, the Cubs, Now, this

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Speaker 1: is the deal. I don't know that Jed Hoyer, their

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Speaker 1: president baseball operations, might have made last year, two years ago,

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Speaker 1: three years ago. He's in the last year of his contract.

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Speaker 1: They need to do something. And Kyle Tucker, arguably one

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Speaker 1: of the top ten players in the game, went healthy.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know that that's arguable. Actually, if you

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Speaker 1: look at war and all those other metrics. Sky's are

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Speaker 1: supremely talented all round player. He generally plays every day

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Speaker 1: when he's healthy. And I'm just referring to health because

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Speaker 1: last year he had that shin issue, the fractured shin

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Speaker 1: that kept him out for quite some time. But this

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Speaker 1: is a durable player for the most part. So the

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Speaker 1: Cubs get a great player and they get a guy, yes,

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Speaker 1: who is only under club control for this season, So

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Speaker 1: it's a risk. It's the same kind of risk the

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Speaker 1: Yankees took with Juan Soto a year ago, and yes,

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Speaker 1: the risk did not turn out all that well for

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Speaker 1: the Yankees in terms of long term arrangements with Jan Soda,

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Speaker 1: but they did get to the World Series with one

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Speaker 1: Soto and that is the Cubs idea with Tucker. So

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Speaker 1: the Cubs now are in an interesting spot. They could

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Speaker 1: afford to trade cam Smith because they were sitting on

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Speaker 1: eight of the top one hundred prospects. They've made some

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Speaker 1: other moves this offseason, Matthew Boyd Carson Kelly Boyd to

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Speaker 1: year at the deadline, they also added a reliever, Nate

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Speaker 2: So what's left?

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Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger is left. There is no real spot for

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Speaker 1: him on this team. I've seen some fans talk about

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Speaker 1: how you can keep Bellinger and shuffle some other pieces,

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Speaker 1: but the Cubs want Matt Shaw to eventually play third base.

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Speaker 1: At that point, they would have Bush at first, Horner

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Speaker 1: outfield would be Hap, pie Crow, Armstrong and Suzuki. That's

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Speaker 1: their team. So Bellinger, the idea of moving him is

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Speaker 1: to clear some of the money. I don't believe that

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Speaker 1: they'll clear all of it. He has a thirty two

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Speaker 1: just for this year between salary and buyout, and we've

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Speaker 1: heard all the talk about the Yankees. It's a financial negotiation.

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Speaker 1: I expect at some point Bellinger will be a Yankee.

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Speaker 1: But the Cubs still need to add to their pitching staff.

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Speaker 1: They need more help in the bullpen for sure, and

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Speaker 1: this move for them, the Tucker move, and I like it,

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Speaker 1: particularly at a time when the Brewers, at least on

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Speaker 1: cautious talking about the Brewers, because, yes, while they've lost

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Speaker 1: They weren't going to have Brandon woodrrooff and as it

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Speaker 1: turned out, last season, Christian Yelwich played only seventy three

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Speaker 1: come the Brewers. Now they make the trade with Williams,

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Speaker 1: But I don't expect them to do that. So the

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Speaker 1: So that's one thing now. As for the free agent market,

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Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Rays and the I can't call them

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Red Sox want to do that.

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Speaker 1: Manaia is thirty three years old. They're clearly going indeed

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Speaker 1: to do something. Flowerty would be another option for them,

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Speaker 1: and yes one of the trade options would be possible

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Speaker 1: And final question from tipop hey Ken, why are the

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Speaker 1: Oriols not diving into the deep end on top notch

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Speaker 1: they had the freedom to do that. Good question one

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Speaker 1: that a lot of Oriols fans are asking. I don't

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Speaker 1: about the offseason to this point, but it certainly is

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Speaker 1: fair to wonder what is going on there now. Even

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Speaker 1: it's still Baltimore. It's still a smaller market, and I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't expect the Orioles to go spend two hundred and

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Speaker 1: general manager, Michael Lias, is likely to do, simply from

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Speaker 1: their young kids eventually. I don't know that it makes

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Speaker 1: big with regard to their starting pitching, and that has

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Speaker 1: been a concern. Certainly, they are worried about the qualifying

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Speaker 1: offer free agents. They don't want to lose a draft pick. Necessarily,

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Speaker 1: They're going to have a number of draft picks because

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Speaker 1: Santander and Burns are likely to leave. They'll have like

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Speaker 1: But at the same time they need another starter, at

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Speaker 1: least one more starter, and to this point they've yet

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Speaker 1: to get that pitcher or those pitchers. I'm waiting to

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Speaker 1: see how this all plays out. I'm going to withhold

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Speaker 1: judgment until I see the final version of the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five Orioles, at least the opening day version. Michae

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Speaker 1: Elias has a challenge in front of him. The pictures

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Speaker 1: are coming off the market. There are pictures left. Jack

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Speaker 1: Flaherty is one. They can maybe get him and maybe

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Speaker 1: make a trade for someone else. But their intention going

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Speaker 1: and right now they have yet to accomplish that task.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for their questions, Thanks for watching, for listening.

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Speaker 1: We will be back Thursday with a live episode of

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