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Speaker 1: Your tuns about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation. How we do it? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. Better than yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Yesterday? Question mark?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think yeah, got a good night's sleep. Girls

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Speaker 2: slept intil the balmy hour of seven am, so oh wow,

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Speaker 2: we were really feeling good.

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Speaker 3: I think my kid slept on noon. So I was

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Speaker 3: saying this, I don't wake me up, get breakfast anyway.

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Speaker 2: No, they do not. I was saying this to my

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Speaker 2: My brother in law is with us for a couple

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Speaker 2: more days. He was in for the holiday. He graduated

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Speaker 2: from Robert Morris last year. He now works in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: He works for a software company in Madison, Wisconsin. And

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Speaker 2: like I was having the conversation with him last night

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Speaker 2: while we were all having dinner of like, this is

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Speaker 2: the time, this time, this time of year, in summertime,

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Speaker 2: or when I really miss like being young, being in school,

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Speaker 2: oh man, because just Christmas break and summer break, Like

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Speaker 2: it's the best.

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Speaker 3: I've told you this, and it's ridge repeat at my

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Speaker 3: house lately with my son having people over and just

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Speaker 3: crushing thirty packs left and right. But last night, they're

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Speaker 3: watching the Monday night football game and ten or twelve

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Speaker 3: of them in the basement just making a mess out of

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Speaker 3: my house. And I go down to halftime and I

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Speaker 3: fill my glass and what are we betting on now, dude?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, put two bucks on rams money line.

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Speaker 3: At this point, I think they're losing twenty one nothing. Boy,

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Speaker 3: the place erupted. I mean for a good hour and

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Speaker 3: a half, the whole second half. I'm just here and come. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But like I mean, because the odds were like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, fifteen to one at that point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're down twenty four to nothing or whatever

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Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one or twenty four and a half time, I'm

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Speaker 3: like mcvay'll figure some things out. They'll come back and

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Speaker 3: make this interesting. And it goes down the last play. Yeah, controversy,

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Speaker 3: right right. I mean, so they almost had the thrill

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Speaker 3: of a lifetime on the big hit.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. That's what we do this for, boys, MAC.

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Speaker 2: Time to take a let's try that again. Time to

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Speaker 2: take a look at our weekly power rankings here of

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Speaker 2: course Week eighteen addition, as we head down the home

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Speaker 2: stretch of the NFL regular season and big shocker, but

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Speaker 2: a different team at number thirty two here Jets.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just kidding it, Okay, say I was going

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Speaker 3: to say the Jets better be thirty one, but nobody

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Speaker 3: beats out the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to see if I could get you,

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Speaker 2: get you like a what?

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Speaker 3: No, totally, I mean Jets got the Jet pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're pretty horrible right now too.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's Raiders thirty two, Jets thirty one. That

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if you wanted to switch them, I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't hate it. But yeah, clearly, yeah, clearly bottom of

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Speaker 3: Gets a conversation at thirty. Yes, yes, Giants.

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Speaker 2: That's who it is. Okay, I think I think I

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Speaker 2: would go Cardinals because the Giants is just one right,

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Speaker 2: Cardinals are one in thirteen in their last fourteen games.

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Speaker 2: Ignore now again, we are you know, we're picking through

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Speaker 2: the you know, garbage, the garbage here, and I'm saying

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Speaker 2: I want that rotten banana peel over that you know,

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Speaker 2: that orange that's been cast aside.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're dumpster diving.

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Speaker 2: We're dumpster diving. But I think I would go Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Seems are shutting guys down. To that could have played

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Speaker 2: I think I would go Cardinals thirty, Giants twenty nine

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Speaker 2: or maybe twenty eight. The Titans stay put it at

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Speaker 2: twenty eight after that back toward Saints game.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty enjoyable. Yeah, and at least there's encouraging

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm moving the Titans crazy high up

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Speaker 2: beat the Cardinals, the Jets, the Raiders, and the Giants

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Speaker 3: Yes, for sure. Yes, Giant showed signs of life.

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Speaker 2: Giants showed signs of life, albeit against a lifeless opponent.

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Speaker 2: But they're at least ahead of that, I think. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: bit in the next segment of Raiders firmly trending to

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Speaker 2: having that number one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know the order other than that off

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Speaker 3: A defense that they do. Yeah, we certainly, we certainly

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Speaker 3: compart these bad teams. They get something to hang their

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Speaker 2: Hey, man, I mean between Miles Garrett, what they have

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yes. But I mean all these teams,

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna be an easy road for them.

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Speaker 2: Were you the one that had the suggestion of, like,

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Speaker 2: if you're the Steelers, just take the Brett Farv esque set.

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Speaker 2: Were you the one who brought that up yesterday? Or

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Speaker 3: I would not. I don't think Rogers would ever.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Rodgers would ever saw Tomlin wouldever signed

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Speaker 2: up for that. But there were I saw some people

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Speaker 3: Because Farv was the one that did it too, he's

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Speaker 3: not going to follow it no way.

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Speaker 2: First first play the game, you should have just done

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Speaker 2: the Brett Faarr of Michael Strahan and just giving Garrett

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Speaker 2: and then proceeded with the rest of the game.

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Speaker 3: So rewatching the game. Here's an observation we didn't bring

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Speaker 3: you have to play for? It's a huge record. Hey,

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Speaker 3: if I was, you know, trying to get the home

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Speaker 3: run record, I'd be into it too, especially if.

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Speaker 2: You were trying to get the home run record on

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Speaker 3: Rightly, you have nothing else.

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Speaker 2: If you're on the Dodgers and you got a chance

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Speaker 3: Like swinging for the fences on everything. You know. But man,

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Speaker 3: watch him a different time, different times throughout the game.

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Speaker 3: He widened his alignment massively, like he was on the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: mean taking extra steps to get there. But I mean

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Speaker 3: that's the only reason you would do that. Like and

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Speaker 3: is like I'm just want to get ahead of steam going.

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Speaker 3: I just urge people to check it out. There were

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Speaker 3: a full of plays where no edge defender should line

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Speaker 2: It reminded me of remember that weird dream team Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when they had a great offseason and they never

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Speaker 2: Some off season and they moved there. It was one

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Speaker 2: of the weirdest coaching decisions I've ever made. They moved

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Speaker 3: Cordinayling, and they're strange.

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Speaker 2: They would have Connor Barwin like lined up like fifteen

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Speaker 2: that's the only other time I've ever seen that.

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Speaker 3: He only was doing that to get a sack, which

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Speaker 3: I don't even blame him, but it's still weird stuff,

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Speaker 3: you know, Like I'm not gonna get into it, but

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Speaker 3: a staple for the Browns. I mean, that's that means

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Speaker 3: you're coming from really far. Anyways, he was outside of

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Speaker 3: such a thing. Yeah, that's it's crazy. He's like he's

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Speaker 2: Myles Garrett lining up on the outside shoulder of the

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Speaker 2: slot receivers, right, And I gotta imagine they'll do more

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Speaker 2: of that stuff. I mean, listen, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Sure he's just choosing to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yes for them this week, like it's probably last week.

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Speaker 2: Job number one was we're not letting the Steelers Clint

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Speaker 2: the division in our house we're in. Job number two

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Speaker 2: was probably get Miles the record this week. Job number

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Speaker 2: one is get Miles the record. For the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: in terms of how they're preparing for this week.

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Speaker 3: They should stun them and twist them and do stuff

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Speaker 3: like that a little bit more and make it they

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Speaker 3: didn't do a ton of that.

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Speaker 2: They did some and the Bengals are not just going

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Speaker 2: to give the ball to Brown thirty times and to

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Speaker 2: hope to mitigate that, the Bengals are going to go

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Speaker 2: it and I got a feeling he'll probably get it done.

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Speaker 2: But hey, that'll be certainly a side plot to watch.

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't to make sure we mentioned that, I'm

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Speaker 3: kind of done talking about Miles Garrett in the sack

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Speaker 3: record and how it influenced the game. But boy, he

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Speaker 3: cared about it. I mean, his alignment was.

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Speaker 2: Weird, without a doubt, Without a doubt. Did you see

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Speaker 2: Joe Thomas and Mitchell Schwartz were going back and forth

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Speaker 2: on Twitter about the conversation we had yesterday about to

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Speaker 2: the Steelers trying game plan Miles too much to hinder

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Speaker 2: what they now because Joe Thomas was tweeting about it

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Speaker 2: and yeah, and Mitchell Schwartz just replied and was like, dude,

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Speaker 2: if their number one goal was to prevent Miles Garrett

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Speaker 2: from breaking the sack record, they probably wouldn't have dropped

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers back thirty nine times, you know, Like, why

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Speaker 2: would they have had Aaron throw the ball thirty nine

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Speaker 2: times if they were that obsessed with keeping Miles Garrett

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Speaker 2: you know, shut out in that regard.

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Speaker 3: I don't have the numbers in front of me, but

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Speaker 3: the Steelers did go empty a lot, but every time

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Speaker 3: they did they either rolled him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, or that it was some percent of the time yeah.

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Speaker 3: They were all away from him, or it was a

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Speaker 3: real super quick yeah yeah, thirty seconds.

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Speaker 2: Commanders check in at twenty six. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: might have them a little bit.

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Speaker 3: The Arizona. It's like they have some talent, but they're

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Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, yeah, I might have them a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Titans right now. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They might not, They might not. I mean the Titans

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Speaker 2: things that they can hang their hat on. Commanders at

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Speaker 2: twenty six, Chiefs all the way down at twenty five,

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Speaker 2: Well that's yeah.

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Speaker 3: But it's kind of weird because as constructed on New

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't honor what they could be or.

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Speaker 3: I mean right, they're not playing with an NFL starter

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Speaker 3: They're seven to nine, right, I mean they're not junk.

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Speaker 2: Are one spot out of Dolphins at twenty three. Shuck

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Speaker 3: He's to be their starter next year.

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Speaker 2: Now it's like, I think we've got our quarterback for

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Speaker 3: They're playing as well as they have at a point

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Speaker 2: It's what they have done the last few years. You know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they often have that.

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Speaker 2: But they could still finish seven and ten, which again,

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Speaker 3: And I better not have them ahead of a couple

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Speaker 2: Mention, but I yeah, as constructed right now, they're dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Going to play against Borough chasing Higgins, and you know.

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Speaker 3: I was almost gonna say that they're playing the best

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Browns are definitely fourth.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's insane.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. Number twenty one, the team who pulled

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Speaker 2: Falcons could finish eight to nine.

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Speaker 2: They certainly haven't. They've got some playmakers man, and Rahie

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Speaker 2: think job I think I think so. They were four

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Speaker 3: Used to be a lot of young guys playing. His

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Speaker 2: Somewhere next year he gets the opportunity to be, he

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Speaker 2: I don't think Minnesota would bring him back because he's

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Speaker 2: you know, if things don't work out with Tyler Shuck,

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Speaker 3: Kind of one like if the Raiders got their quarterback rooms,

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Speaker 3: you know and pick it are both gone and you

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Speaker 3: know you're taking Mendoza.

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Speaker 2: Great one.

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Speaker 3: I'm in for that absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're almost like the exact same human beings. Now

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Speaker 3: I think about it, they're both.

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Speaker 2: Weapons gray goofiness for both.

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Speaker 3: Of those guys. How do you do that quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Weapons of mass dork structure between In fact, for everybody

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Speaker 2: in the Las Vegas market right now, if you end

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Speaker 2: use weapons of mass dorkstruction.

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Speaker 3: And you get to worry about them getting in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Give me that Vegas stress.

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Speaker 2: Or exactly what Sin City? No, thank you.

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Speaker 3: We'll be in glass of milk and him a mile tea. Yeah, now,

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Speaker 3: I love that combination.

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Speaker 2: We gotta start, we got to start opining for.

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Speaker 3: That and Tom Brady's listening and make it happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, TB twelve, Come on, dude, I of all the

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Speaker 2: this quarterback is going to land the mac Jones is

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Speaker 2: the Kyler Murray's that. I think Cousins would be the

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Speaker 2: like JJ McCarthy where it's you know, the crossroads. Time

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Speaker 3: And really that's kind of what he's with Pennix too.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm not sure he even moves. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: good point, is what he's doing now.

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Speaker 2: A good point. Falcons, Man, if they had a first

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Speaker 2: round pick, they could they could really be in a

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Speaker 2: good spot that next year.

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Speaker 3: Buddy and his friends are so impressed with I'm like,

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Speaker 3: remember the Rams who they're playing right now, benefit double

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Speaker 3: if they win this game. Right, They're like, oh, that's

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Speaker 3: good thinking, mister living.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, maybe I will one day. Cowboy checking at number twenty.

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Speaker 3: They're falling apart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they are the definition of average defense.

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Speaker 2: Some weeks they're bad. Some weeks seven eight and one,

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Speaker 2: they could finish eight eight and one, and that's about

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Speaker 2: what they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, nineteen the Colts, they're falling apart.

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Speaker 2: They are falling apart.

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Speaker 3: And man, they announced Umi Leonard, Yes, Rivers this week.

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Speaker 2: Not going to be Rivers this week? Does that play

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Speaker 2: into his draft or his draft part of me his

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Speaker 3: I think they put him on the active rosters. I

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Speaker 3: I think he's waiting five more years because he would

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Speaker 3: he could have been. He would have still been. He

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Speaker 3: would definitely been one of those fifteen.

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Speaker 2: They talked a finalist tea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah and there. Whether he gets in or not, he

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Speaker 3: would have been won to fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I think so. Tampa Bay Bucks checking at eighteen them

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Speaker 3: They should be lower too. They don't ever win. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: They're not much different than the Cardinals in some ways.

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Speaker 2: Seven of their last eight, right, six to their last seven? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I seven of their last eight they've lost.

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Speaker 3: There's the Bengals are better than the box Lord, yes,

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Speaker 2: The Falcons are better than the Fox right right, they

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Speaker 2: Colts from where they were in mid October to where they're.

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Speaker 3: At now, didn't see that collapse coming, right.

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Speaker 2: Life comes fast at you. In the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: another team not having the year they expected checking in

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Speaker 2: at seventeen. It's the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 3: Ooh. I mean they don't mean to play for you more.

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Speaker 3: They're eliminated, but I think they're favored against the Steelers

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Speaker 3: we just saw that parade, But DK Metcalf playing or not,

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Speaker 3: I would rank the Steelers if he isn't. It's the

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Speaker 3: same thing as like Mahome's not being there for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean if if currently constructed, he's not

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Speaker 3: a he's on the roster, he's not available.

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Speaker 2: The Lions are an interesting one because I definitely think

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Speaker 2: they're better than eight and eight. But Bill Parcells right says,

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Speaker 2: you are six sixteen. The Minnesota Vikings the team they're

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Speaker 3: Good stuff together. Yeah they haven't cashed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they can finish with a winning record, But for them,

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Speaker 2: it's really about the quarterback situation next year.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of mixed opinions. If late season momentum

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Speaker 3: translates to the following year. I never think it's a

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Speaker 3: bad thing. No, I agree, especially like a young quarterback

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, right, Like we've talked about football

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Speaker 2: is different in that regard the wins and losses matter.

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Speaker 2: If they could keep Brian Floores around, because I gotta

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Speaker 2: think he'll factor into some some head coaching opportunities this offseason.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy, what's going on there? I wonder you know, the

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman just announced that he's staying.

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Speaker 2: So that's another potential NFL head coaching opening. You know.

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Speaker 2: Apparently rumor was the Giants were pushing hard after him,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll do some segments on obsolute, but it

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Speaker 3: sounds like most of them are defensive, yes, and there's

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Speaker 2: Correct right or the Liam Cohen right right right. And

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Speaker 2: these teams, particularly if I'm a team that's the Raiders

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to be bringing in a young quarterback, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want the guy to mentor and develop that young quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen the Carolina Panthers stumbling.

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Speaker 3: Down the home stretch head of Tampa.

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Speaker 2: In the NFC South. Yeah, definitely a big opportunity for

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Speaker 2: them in Tampa Bay on Saturday, number fourteen, the Baltimore

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Speaker 2: Ravens hanging around Matt They have the Steelers at thirteen.

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Speaker 3: So those shocked at the Steelers are ahead of them.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens are favored.

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Speaker 2: I think I am too, But I also Lamar's health

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Speaker 2: we just saw, feels like Lamar's health is a big.

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Speaker 3: I mean one week ago, I definitely would have had

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Speaker 3: the Steelers ahead of the Ravens. Yes, but I'm a

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Speaker 3: little shocked they don't, or that they still do. They're

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Speaker 2: Other, they are, and you know what, the DK Metcalf

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Speaker 3: Packers, they might be lower, but are they still better

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Speaker 3: than the Steelers and Ravens Maybe, but they'd be.

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Speaker 2: They're just they're just so knackered, man. They just just

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Speaker 2: beat them pretty bad in there in their house.

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Speaker 3: If this was Ravens, Zation Radio would be a little

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Speaker 2: We just beat these guys in their stadium.

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Speaker 3: Right right, ran all over them, ran it right at.

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Speaker 2: Them, punched them in the math for sixty minutes. Number eleven,

443
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Speaker 2: the LA Chargers.

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Speaker 3: That's about where they belong.

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Speaker 2: I think it's about where they have the Bay. I

446
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Speaker 2: would definitely have them over Green Bay. I think they

447
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Speaker 2: deserve a lot of credit. I don't think they're a

448
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Speaker 2: legitimate Super Bowl threat, but I think they deserve a

449
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Speaker 2: ton of credit.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hanging on.

451
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Speaker 2: They lost their one A offensive lineman before the season

452
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Speaker 2: even started, and their one B offensive lineman early into

453
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Speaker 2: the season. Herbert has been broken, hand, banged up, all

454
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Speaker 2: that stuff. They're eleven and five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in fact, they have eleven wins.

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Speaker 2: Impressive. I mean they at one point were down their

457
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Speaker 2: top two running backs as well with Dog and Hampton. Like,

458
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Speaker 2: they've had as much injury issues as anybody besides maybe

459
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Speaker 2: the Niners, but they've navigated it expertly into the top ten.

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Speaker 2: Number ten the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: The defense is playing phenomenal, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Very good, and that's gonna be enough for them to

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Speaker 2: be dangerous. But like Hurts didn't complete a pass the

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Speaker 2: entire second half of that game. And I know the

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Speaker 2: weather was a factor there in Buffalo, but I.

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Speaker 3: Think this is true. If not, I'm off by one.

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Speaker 3: There are three games this year where a team won

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Speaker 3: by and also threw less than five yards in one

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Speaker 3: of the half, and they're all the Eagles that.

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Speaker 2: Would check out.

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Speaker 3: It would, but it's not. I would believe that last year,

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Speaker 3: more like when Barkley was running for the running game

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Speaker 3: has been ridiculous. No, it's a defense.

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Speaker 2: It's the defense. The defense is outstanding, phenomenal and could

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Speaker 2: carry them, could rival the Texans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they.

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Speaker 2: Took them a little while with all the new pieces.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Phillips, Phillips getting involved my numbers quarterback right now,

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Speaker 3: they're dangerous man number nine, the Rams, Matt Williamson's Super

480
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Speaker 3: Bowl Darling, it'd still be one for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can't quit them. And their O Lione was a

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Speaker 3: mess last night.

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Speaker 2: I can't quit them.

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Speaker 3: I still think they might win there like Nicotine.

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Speaker 2: I can't quit them over here.

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Speaker 3: Trust the quarterback and the coach. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he lost the MVP last night, but he's worse.

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Speaker 3: Number two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good point. That was a weird

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Speaker 2: one last night.

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Speaker 3: It was first half was not pretty. No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't. But I'm with you. I think the Rams

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Speaker 2: are one of those teams. They can flip the switch

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Speaker 2: when they need to, and they're very dangerous.

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Speaker 3: You know, like we talked about this with something Steeler guys.

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Speaker 3: But they're showing Adams running routes before the game. Looks great,

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Speaker 3: looks like throw him back in the mix and they'll

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Speaker 3: be okay.

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Speaker 2: They'll be just fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Number eight, the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: I'm higher on them too.

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Speaker 2: I think both of these teams were both a little

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Speaker 2: bit higher. Yeah, the Texans after starting zero to three,

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Speaker 2: they are eleven and two in their last thirteen.

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Speaker 3: I think we mentioned about them if we were clear

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Speaker 3: enough last segment. Chances are whoever wins Sunday Night gets

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Speaker 3: the Texans, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, yes, because the Texans play I forget who,

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Speaker 2: but the Texans I think have a pretty favorite.

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Speaker 3: But someone in the division. It's not Jacksonville, so it's

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Speaker 3: either or.

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Speaker 2: It's the Cults. Yes, it is the Colts. So that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that should be a favorable matchup certainly, and that would

516
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Speaker 2: lead to Texans yes, the Texans traveling to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Or that would lock up their five seed.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears check in at number seven, Matt cool

520
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Speaker 2: for real?

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Speaker 3: Yeah for real?

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Speaker 2: You know, like you have group chats with your buddies.

523
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Speaker 2: We've all got that same thing, kind of a running

524
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Speaker 2: joke that we've had and one of my group chat

525
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Speaker 2: with all my buddies. You know, since probably I don't know,

526
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Speaker 2: mid October Halloween timeframe is like are the Bears for real?

527
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Speaker 2: Are the Bears for real? Are the Bears now? It's

528
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Speaker 2: just like every weekend, it's like someone will text, hey, guys,

529
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Speaker 2: the Bears are for real. The Bears are for real,

530
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Speaker 2: Like Sunday night every time Chicago would answer the Niners.

531
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Speaker 2: So you're like, hey, guys, I think the Bears are

532
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Speaker 2: for real. They're for real. I know that they lost

533
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Speaker 2: in San Francisco, but.

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Speaker 3: Even if they lose the first round of the playoffs, they

535
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Speaker 3: were they had a very real season.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely number six. The Buffalo Bills down three spots

537
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Speaker 2: after that loss to the Eagles to six. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: I still think Buffalo is a legit contender and threat

539
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Speaker 2: in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially the way the AFC is constructed right now.

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Speaker 2: But this is another one of those. Such a week

542
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Speaker 2: the week league. I felt a lot better about the

543
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Speaker 2: Bills last week than I did this week.

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Speaker 3: Me too, and a lot of it's just all in health.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's one hundred percent, one hundred percent. Number five

546
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Speaker 2: into the top five here. The Niners check in at

547
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Speaker 2: number five, up two spots after they're taking down in Chicago.

548
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Speaker 3: I've been reluctant to buy in just beca the defense

549
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: is getting hit so hard with injuries, but they just

550
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Speaker 3: outscore everybody.

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Speaker 2: Their offense is unbelieved it unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Machine.

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Speaker 2: Broncos check in at number four.

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Speaker 3: Cool, yeah, right, I'm as Patriots whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is about right. They've got their flaws,

556
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Speaker 2: but everybody does. If bo Nix is, you know, playing

557
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Speaker 2: at a plus level, I think the Broncos are very dangerous.

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Speaker 3: I was talking on my six Pack podcast, you know

559
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Speaker 3: about that class. You know, we were talking about May

560
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Speaker 3: Verse Stafford for m VP. Maybe May wins it, and

561
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Speaker 3: my co hosts like, I'd put a buck on Caleb

562
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Speaker 3: Williams for next year. I'm like, cool, great, I don't

563
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Speaker 3: think that's crazy. Yeah, maybe they're both ahead of Daniels,

564
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Speaker 3: who none of us are worried about it all. And

565
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Speaker 3: then I threw out, you might see may versus Nicks

566
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Speaker 3: in the AFC Championship. K welcome. I mean like that

567
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Speaker 3: class could be outstanding Rivers, Eli Ben, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it could.

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Speaker 2: Be Lay Elway, Kelly.

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Speaker 3: Marino, Marino. Yeah, Kelly went to the USFL right away,

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Speaker 3: but then it took a year or two. The Burrow

572
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Speaker 3: to Herbert her love pretty strong lately too, pretty good? Yeah,

573
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Speaker 3: pretty falling off, but I mean still still.

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Speaker 2: Did I tell you I watched it. I tell you guys,

575
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Speaker 2: yesterday I watched the Lway documentary. That documentary on the

576
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Speaker 2: on the drive to Cleveland on the bus. Thought it

577
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Speaker 2: was really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that John Elway was the quarterback

580
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Speaker 2: of the famous The Band is on the field that

581
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Speaker 2: was his last college football game.

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Speaker 3: Imagine what's crazy is he had an awesome drive before.

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Speaker 2: Converted fourth and fourteen. It would be like some legendary

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Speaker 2: like launch Yeah yeah, NFL. Instead it's one of the

585
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Speaker 2: most epic endings. You know, on the field. That was

586
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Speaker 2: his last college football game. Losing, losing to your losing

587
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Speaker 2: to your rival like that who Number three, the Jacksonville Jags.

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Speaker 3: I guess I can't argue with it.

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Speaker 2: Makes a ton of sense. I think you and I

590
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: both all year were very cautious on them.

591
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but at twelve and four.

592
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Speaker 2: Ever since they blew that game in Houston against you know,

593
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Speaker 2: Davis Mills and the Texas, it's like two months ago,

594
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Speaker 2: they have been outstanding. Number two is the Patriots. Number

595
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Speaker 2: one is the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Fine, Seattle be one.

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Speaker 2: I would definitely have Seattle ahead of anybody.

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Speaker 3: In the I know people think I'm crazy if if

599
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Speaker 3: I had the Rams won, they don't know it's good

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Speaker 3: a resume, but Seattle does.

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Speaker 2: I think I would probably have a couple more NFC

602
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Speaker 2: teams ahead of because it's Seattle one than Patriots, Jags, Broncos.

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Speaker 2: I might have some of those NFC teams higher than Patriots, Jags, Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Say, are the Eagles better than those three teams or

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Speaker 3: the Rams better than those three teams? Maybe Niners. I

606
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Speaker 3: think the Rams are definitely better than those three teams.

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Speaker 2: I think so too, But again I understand for the

608
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Speaker 2: purpose of power ranking, all Patriots did just absolutely boat

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Speaker 2: race the Jets and make it look like that was

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Speaker 2: a scrimmage game.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the Rams have two recent losses.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna tell you what pretty soon, these power rankings,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna rip them up and throw them out the window.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna see the playoffs play out here, baby, and

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Speaker 2: see how it all goes down. This is a long segment.

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Speaker 2: We're overdue for a break. Let's take a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a look at the draft order when we return

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Speaker 2: on the other side. Wells Shooler, Matt Williamson. It is

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tune's about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along on

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday evening in Matt, let's kind of piggyback off

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Speaker 2: a lot of this power rankings, playoff order, playoff picture.

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Speaker 2: Part of me a conversation that we've been having today

626
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Speaker 2: because with one week to go, the race is on

627
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Speaker 2: for the top ten picks. Yeah, in the NFL draft

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Speaker 2: number one. Everybody knows is the race super quick.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I show you a lot, but.

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Speaker 2: That's usually when the good stuff is on the way.

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Speaker 3: So off eighteen and above our playoff team. Yes, and

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Speaker 3: we pretty much know who those are, you know, so

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Speaker 3: we basically know, with the exception of two teams either Steels,

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Speaker 3: the Ravens or Panthers or Box, who are going to

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Speaker 3: pick in the top eighteen seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, and that picture will obviously become.

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Speaker 3: And that's all changing too, yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, bye. By Monday, we'll we'll have some finality on that.

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00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: But here's what we know. As of now, Raiders are

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Speaker 2: number one. They're the worst team in the league win

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Speaker 2: loss record. There's a handful of teams that have three

642
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Speaker 2: wins and four wins, but the Raiders the lone two

643
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Speaker 2: win team in the National Football League, and as things

644
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Speaker 2: stand today, they would be first. Now I think, so,

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Speaker 2: I think, And listen, would you and I have talked

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Speaker 2: about this a little bit and we'll get more and

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Speaker 2: more into it in depth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think Mendoza has the Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger,

650
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow ceiling, but I think he's got a pretty

651
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Speaker 2: high floor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like I think at worst he's Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like at worst he's heard like her.

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Speaker 2: And that's like like if you're the Raiders. You would

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Speaker 2: absolutely sign up for that time. You wouldn't have had

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Speaker 2: a quarterback that good and that much stability at your

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Speaker 2: most important position.

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Speaker 3: That's a good start in a long time.

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Speaker 2: It's a goods. It's not taking Andrew Luck first overall,

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence first overall draft.

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Speaker 3: The guys are available, but it's.

663
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Speaker 2: It's a I and I know this is not necessarily

664
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Speaker 2: what you want to hear for the first overall pick,

665
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: but for taking like I think cam Ward has a

666
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: higher ceiling than Mendoza, but I think Mendoza would be

667
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: a safer first overall pick, Like I would be shocked

668
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: if he bust.

669
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: If they both coming the same year, I could see

670
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Speaker 3: cases for both. Yes, personally, I swing for the fences.

671
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: I would have warned ahead of them.

672
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Speaker 2: Like we've talked about I want to go to Porsche, yeah,

673
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Speaker 2: and not Honda yeak down. But I know I'm getting

674
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Speaker 2: two hundred thousand miles out of that, han Man, you

675
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's gonna get me on to

676
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: a lot of places that I need to go. Raiders

677
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: picking number one, and you know, barring something unforeseen crazy,

678
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: they will pick number one. Then there's four teams right now,

679
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: with three wins the Giants, the Jets, the Titans, and

680
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Based on tie breakers, it would be seated

681
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: currently in that order that I just stated. So the

682
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Speaker 2: Giants would be two, the Jets would be three, Titans four,

683
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: Cardinals five.

684
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: Okay, giants are and well again this is such we'll

685
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: talk this to death.

686
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: If they end up with two, maybe in a great spot. Yes,

687
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: because of Mendoza, Go's one and there's another Dante Moore.

688
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: Yes, they The gionversation is going to be do you

689
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: move on from Dart? Do you take more?

690
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: Now? If you ask me right now, who would I

691
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: rather have? It would be Dante Moore, me too. But

692
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Speaker 2: if you're also asking me, is Dante more worth completely

693
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: giving up on Jackson Dart after a year? I don't know.

694
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Speaker 3: I don't know right. I mean, that's gonna be the conversation, yes,

695
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: which is.

696
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: An interesting hear that talk to death. You and I

697
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: might talk that to death.

698
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: By the time we get we will already know it's coming,

699
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: there's no doubt.

700
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Speaker 2: But that's an interesting one. The Giants would be in

701
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: a favorable, very good position there at pick two.

702
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: So people be like, boy, that's hard to move off

703
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: first round quarterback. No, it's not. He's making like four

704
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: million a year, five million a year. He was a

705
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: twenty third pick or anything like that.

706
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: Moving off of Kenny Pickett kill the Steelers from a

707
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: snap standpoint or anything.

708
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely the way that the structure, it's not hard to

709
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: move from late first guy.

710
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if he was the if Jackson Dart was the

711
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: sixth overall pick, it's a different content. Yeah, number three

712
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: the Jets, that'd be a good spot for them to Yeah,

713
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: they've got to maybe not to get their future franchise quarterback,

714
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: but maybe that's not the maybe that they want to

715
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Speaker 2: build that nest up a little bit more before they

716
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Speaker 2: do so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh.

718
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: And then Titans at number four, again, they could stay

719
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: put right there and have a great chance to get

720
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: the best offensive line and the best wide receiver, the

721
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: best defensive player. Is sorry, I'm banging Mike. I'm banging

722
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: the desk, the Bob Labriola thing, and I'm banging the

723
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: desk too hard, and Williamson's mic is going flying over there.

724
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: Boo boo. But if you're the Titans at number four,

725
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: you could have a ton on the table, including Hey,

726
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: we can always trade down couple spots and pick up

727
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: some more capital if more and more.

728
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, they're going the right direction. They're gonna have

729
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: a high pick. There was a portion of the season

730
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: where it looked like they'd have one, and then you

731
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: could really hold teams from Ransom for Mendoza and that

732
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: would be a wonderful spot. Absolutely, that ship sailed for them.

733
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: That ship has sailed for them. They could still move

734
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: up a little bit from four, but it's gonna be

735
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Speaker 2: the Raiders picking pick. The first believe that a team

736
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Speaker 2: that at five is not in the greatest scenario is

737
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Speaker 2: the Cardinals because it's probably gonna be too late for

738
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Speaker 2: them to get a quarterback there. Yeah, and I don't know. Again,

739
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Speaker 2: they'll have a shot at taking a ridd off line

740
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: and really good defensive player, but they're gonna be probably

741
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: one of those in the quarterback market as well, and

742
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: they might.

743
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: Wonder if they just run it back with Brissette, trade

744
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: Kyler and try to get in that market a year

745
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: from now. That's probably what I would be maybe Kyler

746
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: or that's pretty good.

747
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there could be worse stop gaps for

748
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: the set.

749
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think you're picking in this neighborhood next year.

750
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Speaker 2: You know, there are currently Matt two or win teams

751
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL, the Commanders who would pick sixth, and

752
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, who would pick seventh.

753
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Speaker 3: I've been hard on the Commanders, but they're a pretty

754
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: good roster to be picking this early to add a

755
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: premium player.

756
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: If it's maybe you could get the second or third

757
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 2: defensive player off the board. Yeah, what if you get

758
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: an RVL rece he.

759
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Speaker 3: Re or the second best ad rusher, you know, or

760
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 3: something like that, Like okay, they buy that.

761
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: Commanders are in a are in a good spot too.

762
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: Browns is an interesting one at seven because again you're

763
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: probably out of the quarterback range there.

764
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's just well they do two first,

765
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: don't they. They's going to be the Jags, which we're

766
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: going to be higher, But later they could get the two.

767
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: They could I mean, you could convince the Giants why

768
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: you can't start, and you know.

769
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Speaker 2: We'll give you seven, twenty two or twenty three, whatever

770
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: it ends up being. It certainly could be in play.

771
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: They could also be another one who's just hey, there's

772
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Speaker 2: one offensive lineman off the board at this point, or

773
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: maybe they're all the tackles are still there. At pitch seventh.

774
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: You can get what's his face from Miami or you

775
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: can get Fannu from Utah and kind of two top prospects.

776
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: That'd be interesting.

777
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: If I were Cleveland, maybe they can be convinced Sanders

778
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: as the guy. Maybe I'm not, but maybe they are.

779
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 4: Me me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would, I would, I would somewhat understand it.

781
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: Number eight the Saints. There are no five win teams

782
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: in the NFL right now, so now you're out of

783
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: the three and four win territory now into the six

784
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 2: win territory. It would be Saints eight. Chiefs nine.

785
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's frightening for the rest of the world.

786
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: Bengals ten mm.

787
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Speaker 3: I mean, could the Chiefs get the best receiver in

788
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: the draft?

789
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: Hundred? Yeah? Right, they could go we want we want

790
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: Tate or we want Lemon or we want Pyson, whoever

791
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: they think is the best they're picked. Nine. Certainly a possibility.

792
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: Bengals are pretty good to be picking that early too.

793
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: Bengal.

794
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: I mean, we know it's gonna be defense, I'm sure,

795
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: but could they get downs? Absolutely?

796
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, because I would be surprised if by the

797
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: time we get to pick seven eight, there's not two

798
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: quarterbacks off the board.

799
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Speaker 3: Yeah, already.

800
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Speaker 2: The Bengal probably I wouldn't think, would go back to

801
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: edge rusher back to back years.

802
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: It's certainly possible, right, Hendrickson's probably won't be back.

803
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: Because Hendrickson probably won't be back, and it's not like

804
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: Schimer Stewart has lit the world on fire. But there

805
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: I also, they don't think they're gonna, you know, punt

806
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: on him after a year. Oh no, no, but that

807
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: would be interesting. So especially if you consider Matt say two,

808
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: So say the Bengals on the clock at ten, two

809
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks go in the top nine, the Chiefs take a

810
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: wide receiver, which the Bengals aren't gonna do.

811
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: There could be two defensive players off the board at

812
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: that point.

813
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: Possible, right, Bengals could be in a good spot. Chiefs

814
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: could be in a good spot. I really for all

815
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: these teams, except for maybe the Cardinals and the Browns,

816
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: just because needing quarterbacks and where they're pegged, I think

817
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: all these teams are gonna have a lot of options

818
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: on the team, except for the Raiders. For the Raiders,

819
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: it should be we're putting our phone on, do not

820
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: disturb and we're drafting Fernanda Mendoza.

821
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Chiefs and Bengals are just not that

822
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: far removed from being pretty darn successful, you know. Absolutely,

823
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: you can kind of say that about washing Into but

824
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: it's only one good year for.

825
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: Washington, good offseason, and they're right back into the food

826
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's if you're Kansas City. That's the one

827
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: bright spot is hey, your your dynasty. This edition of

828
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 2: it came to a screeching halt, but you got an

829
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: opportunity to reboot it pretty quickly on the other side too,

830
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: So we'll see. But that's what the top ten looks.

831
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: Like currently, Okay. I mean it's just startling to see

832
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: the Chiefs there. I knew they were in the top ten,

833
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: but you just don't see that.

834
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: It's crazy, right it is.

835
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: The Lions are going to be like at fourteen probably

836
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: or so at fifteen or something like that too. It's

837
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: like they weren't that far removing a pretty good team.

838
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: Too, right right, I mean, the Bengals were a popular

839
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 2: pick to win the AFC North.

840
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: Come out A favorite Baltimore might have been.

841
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: I think Baltimore was a slight favorite over Cincinnati, but

842
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: a lot of the talking heads were picking the Bengals

843
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: to win the division. Now they're picking in the top ten.

844
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: Albeit though if they win and they beat the Browns,

845
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: that could throw that into flux. They could end up

846
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: moving back, you know, twelve thirteen, whatever the case may be.

847
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: But we'll keep an eye on this as we go along.

848
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: But that's where we are at here right now, with

849
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: one week to go and terms of the top ten

850
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: of the NFL Draft. Segur final break here Matt closed

851
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Speaker 2: this thing down. On the other side was Shooler. Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

853
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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: You were two weeks about Drive on your twenty four

855
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Speaker 1: to seven home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

856
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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on this Tuesday, as

857
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: we cross some te's and dot some i's before we

858
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Speaker 2: get up out of here, Matt, I did notice this too,

859
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford sixth all time in NFL passing yards now

860
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: after last night, passing former Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. No, yeah,

861
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: so Ben Ben jumps the spot back there in his

862
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: in terms of his career. Stafford, I know that this

863
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: was a debate a couple of years ago, but like,

864
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: he's a no brainer, surefire Hall of Famer now, right.

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Speaker 3: I thought so the second they won the Super Bowl. Yeah,

866
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: and probably even before that. Yes, And now, especially if

867
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: he wins the MVP, I think that's a first ballot

868
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: Drew Brees level type. You know that we had that conversation.

869
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: I think he's kind of vastly underrated in terms of

870
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: like all time quarterbacks. I agree with you on the right.

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00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that, and I think, especially

872
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: in hindsight, like a couple of times that he was

873
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: able to navigate the Lions to the playoffs and things

874
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: like that look even better when he went to the Rams,

875
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: and now.

876
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: The success of the All Hill Climb.

877
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think people had kind of written him

878
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: off and then they have that resurgence last year and

879
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: win a playoff game and take Philly down to the

880
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Speaker 2: wire and then have another chance to go on a

881
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: great run this year.

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Speaker 3: I haven't done it in a long time. But like,

883
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: if I do like my top twenty quarterbacks of all time,

884
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Speaker 3: I don't think he's in the top ten, but he's

885
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Speaker 3: be in top twenty. You know what.

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Speaker 2: That's another one of those things that we should do

887
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: this offseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in the it's the hardest one ever.

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00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: But in the in the you know, watching the The

890
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Speaker 2: l Way documentary on on Netflix to.

891
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Speaker 3: Him higher, But I mean I have higher than most people.

892
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Speaker 2: If you go into my attic, there's still youth John

893
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: Elway and Terrell Davis Jerseys somewhere somewhere in my attics.

894
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm maybe a little bias, but I'm adding that to

895
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Speaker 2: the I have a notes tab on my laptop titled

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Speaker 2: the TV's laughing over there, because you know, you have

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Speaker 2: talked about this with him a couple of times, titled

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Speaker 2: the Weird Word the Weird World of Matt Williamson. And

899
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Speaker 2: it's all just different random topics that we could get

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Speaker 2: into during the offseason. I just put Top twenty quarterbacks. Ever,

901
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: this's something that will debate at some point, because you're right,

902
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: that's a lot more fun than the top ten, uh Matt.

903
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: ESPN just posted their first and second team all rookie

904
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: rosters for the NFL this year. Okay, so I know

905
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Speaker 2: we only got like a few minutes here, but let's

906
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: run through this real quick and just see if there's

907
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: any that you would patently disagree with anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Something that might be quiet on half of them.

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00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, quarterback I don't think is surprising cam Ward first team,

910
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: Tyler Schuck second time.

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00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: I think I have Shucked first. Really, I like Ward

912
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: better going forward, But who had the better year?

913
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: Interesting shock just because of this stretch of games. I mean,

914
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: but I get what you're saying War he did. He

915
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Speaker 2: certainly did. Yeah, he has a much larger sample size

916
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: this year than than Shuck does. But I think those

917
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: guys are clear one and two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know.

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00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: No, I mean, yeah, I was gonna say, I don't

920
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: even know. Really who else you'd have in the conversation

921
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: he had no Dart didn't play enough Sanders or Dylan

922
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: Gabriel didn't play.

923
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 3: Enough Dart would be three.

924
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I was laughing at that they had these. And listen,

925
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Speaker 2: I understand that's what teams do. Like if you're the

926
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: Browns content team, like, you gotta find stuff to pump

927
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 2: out there, even if your team's only won three games.

928
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: But one of the things that they had, like on

929
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: the jumbo Tron pregame was like Brown's rookie quarterbacks have

930
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: thrown for the second most yards of any rookie quarterback.

931
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, Campboard and Shuck who just started

932
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago.

933
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Speaker 3: But I get it.

934
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Speaker 2: You gotta find positive things to put on the on

935
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Speaker 2: the big screen. Running Backs Travon Henderson first team, Quinn

936
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: Shawn Junkinds second team. Little oh h I oh.

937
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hampton didnt play enough, gent Y didn't have enough.

938
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: Moo got hurt already. I mean, Monding guy might deserve

939
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: a shout in here. But yeah, I think I think

940
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Speaker 2: those are the two. I think those are the clear two.

941
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Ted McMillan first team. Sorry sorry sorry, They

942
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: did first team tet A Mecca and Luther.

943
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: Burden, okay, and then yes, even though he is falling off.

944
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: And then they did second team, Pat Bryan, Jaden Higgins,

945
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Speaker 2: Chimiri Dyke.

946
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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I might have just picked.

947
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Speaker 2: I might have just picked between the top three for

948
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Speaker 2: first and second teamer, but I think those top three

949
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Speaker 2: are the clear three.

950
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not super impressive.

951
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: Though it's not. I mean, Buca started out crazy hot

952
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: and he's he's kind of flat lined, like they have.

953
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: I think McMillan's the clear one. I mean he's he's

954
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: a good player. Uh. Tight end Fannin Junior, number one,

955
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns easily second team Colson Loveland.

956
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Speaker 3: Uh.

957
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Speaker 2: And they said that they would have had Tyler Warren

958
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Speaker 2: in this spot until the last couple of weeks. I

959
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: guess that's fair.

960
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: Numbers are bonkers.

961
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable, especially considering like he didn't have the Caleb Williams

962
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Speaker 2: and the you know, the Daniel Jones like throwing him

963
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: the ball for for the majority of the season. Left

964
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Speaker 2: tackle Calvin or Kevin sorry, Kelvin Banks junior from the

965
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Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints, really good, Josh Simmons from the Chiefs.

966
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Speaker 2: Number two. Uh.

967
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Speaker 3: Left over Campbell from the Patriots.

968
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Speaker 2: But that's a good call. I guess Campbell missed some

969
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: time in there. Gray Zabel, the left guard for the

970
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Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks, I think one of the more underrated offensive

971
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: linemen in the entire league this season.

972
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's like any centers to pick from.

973
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Speaker 2: Uh. Jonah Monaghan of the Jacksonville Jaguars. His number is

974
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: number one. He only has two starts. That tells you

975
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: it was in that department. Tyler Booker, the right guard

976
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Speaker 2: for the Cowboy His first team. Uh, and your boy

977
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: Armond Membo of the Jets. Easy one, easy one at

978
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Speaker 2: right tackle. Let's see here, Abdul Carter at edge rusher.

979
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Speaker 2: Is he gonna win? Who's gonna win Defensive Rookie of

980
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: the Year.

981
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Speaker 3: I think he'll be sweatinger you think so? Yeah, very

982
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: well could be.

983
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Speaker 2: He's he's obviously the pick it uh at linebacker, but

984
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Ghot Campbell right on his yeah, right on his toes.

985
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: There Will Johnson, first teamer at corner out of the Cardinals.

986
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: Quincy Riley as well too from the Saints. He's really

987
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: come on in the back half of the season.

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Speaker 3: Had a really good rookie class.

989
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: Jonas Sanker their safety. Yeah, the third round pick on here, Yeah.

990
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: Left tackle, quarterback, and two pieces of your secondary right

991
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: off the bat.

992
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, rookie class and h and Nick Wori of the

993
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Speaker 4: he's an outside He's difference quietly been been very good

994
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 4: after being a second round pick.

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Speaker 2: That was a fun way to it down there. We'll

996
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Speaker 2: have more of that big picture stuff in the following weeks,

997
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: but obviously as we roll along the rest of the week,

998
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Speaker 2: we'll start to turn the page and focus on the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. We'll do all that and more as we

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Speaker 2: roll along. Thanks to Chris Adamski for joining us here today,

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Speaker 2: to Nathan for producing on the radio side of things,

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Speaker 2: TV Mister TV on the video side of things, keeping

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Speaker 2: us crisp and handsome as always, for Matt Williams and

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Speaker 2: um Wesheeler. Take care everybody, We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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