1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Holidays continue, and thank you for prioritizing us here on 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: the Jack Doyle Podcast during this I always call it 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: like the dead winter break, you know, that week before 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: week between Christmas and New Year's. But it is New 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: Year's Day as we come to here on the Jack 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Doyle Podcast. That's the great Jack Doyle. I'm Matt Taylor, 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: and welcome back everybody, as we're talking about some New 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Year's resolutions for the Colts, trying to get a win 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. It's a new year. 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: I know it's Week eighteen, same season, but it's the 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: first game of the twenty twenty sixth calendar for the 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Colts looking to break a six game slide here at 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the end of the season. We know about the math, 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: we know about the playoffs. The Colts have been eliminated 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: from postseason contention for the fifth straight year, losing to 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars last week, but they were eliminated the day 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: before when the Texans beat the Chargers. So a lot 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: to talk about. We'll get into the quarterback situation all 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: of that here as it relates to the Indianapolis Colts 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: on this New Year's Day, twenty twenty six. But Jack 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: how you doing man. 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: Happy New Year too, Yeah, Happy New Year man. I'm 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm happy to be here. You know 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: you said, We've had some losses here since game, but 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: I'm still happy to be here with you met and 26 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: like the Colts football man, and you know, there's not 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: not no place I'd rather be. 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: You sure knew how to make a guy feel good. 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, There you go. 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: Christmas was good though too, with the family. 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: Christmas was good, chaotic as always kids. You know, there's 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: still I feel like there's still stuff just everywhere in 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: our house, just toys everywhere and boxes everywhere. And I 34 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: think me and my wife are just like in a standoff, 35 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: just like looking at each other, like who's going to 36 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: clean it up? Yeah, with that spider man like beam 37 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: where they're looking at each other. That's what it's like 38 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: in our house right now. 39 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna blank first at the oile household. 40 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, But no great Christmas man, Like I said, 41 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: it's it's so much fun with the young kids and 42 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 2: seeing the magic of Christmas through their eyes is very special. 43 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: What was the best thing you saw them open up 44 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: or have the chance to get where Santa came through. 45 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: They were so so my little daughter Leona got this, 46 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: like many it's like a mini mouse food cart. Yeah, 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: so she's she loves to like take our orders and 48 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: like she thinks she's a waitress, which is really cute. 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: You know. 50 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: She's like she's two and a half and she's got 51 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: this little mini mouse food cart. She's driving around and 52 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: wrecking into stuff and then it's like, dad, you want 53 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: some ice cream? 54 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: And then she'll go back to her cart and give me. 55 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: A web take it in. Oh, it's the best. Soak 56 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: it in. 57 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: It is the best. 58 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, every dad ever will tell you soak it in, 59 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: which you already know that. But yeah, that's that's our 60 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: advice because those years do not last forever, and so 61 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: do bad times for the Colts. They're gonna get out 62 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: of this funk at some point, yeah, I promise you. 63 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there's too many good people here running the 64 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: organization for it to have missed the playoffs five straight 65 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: five straight years, I should say, but that is the 66 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: reality here. So Jack, let's you know, we talked last 67 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: week the theme was hard Truce. They continue here. The 68 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Colts started the season seven and one, but they become 69 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: only the six team in NFL history to miss the 70 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: playoffs after that good of a record. And you know, 71 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: this is the longest drought for the Colts when it 72 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: comes to the postseason since a seven year stretch there 73 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: when they missed the playoffs right around when they first 74 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: moved to town nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety four, 75 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: a seven year period missing out on the playoffs. So 76 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: this is almost uncharted waters for the Colts, at least 77 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: in this new generation of Colts fans experiencing the team 78 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty five. So when the Texans beat 79 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers last week Saturday afternoon game, you know we're 80 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: all sitting there watching the TV and heavy rooting interest 81 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: for the Chargers. Colts beat them earlier this season. They 82 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: don't come through. 83 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: You have that. 84 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm calling it all right, phantom defensive holding penalty with 85 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers looking to get the ball back. It was 86 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: third down, they get a sack, They were down four, 87 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: going to get the ball back with a chance to 88 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: go down score and get the win and continue the 89 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: hopes of the Colts playoff chances. The next day when 90 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: they played the Jacksonville Jaguars, but when that result went 91 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: the way it did as a Colts fan, how deflating 92 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: was that for you? 93 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I was. 94 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: It was obviously we knew it was a long shot, 95 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: you know, the playoffs to that point anyways, but you 96 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: know it's just like so many results, you know, to 97 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: help the Colts go to the playoffs or make the 98 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: playoffs has not gone our way. Then I felt like, Okay, 99 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: the Chargers are gonna come through. You know, Philip Rivers 100 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: used to be with the Chargers, right, and I really 101 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: felt like, hey, this is gonna go our way so 102 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: that we can you know, be playing for something on 103 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: Sunday against Jacksonville. But yeah, it just puts a pit 104 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: in your stomach. Man, for how this season started and 105 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: kind of how this skid has gone. It's just really 106 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: you know, you feel for those guys and that are 107 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: putting the work in, and you know, as a fan, 108 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: I'm disappointed and frustrated for you know, for the fans. 109 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: I'm frustrated for the guys. So just a tough deal. 110 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: And you know, was proud of how the team came 111 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: out anyways against Jacksonville and and you know professional and 112 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: fought their tails off. 113 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Well you're right though, I mean this six games slide 114 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: now for the Colts coincides with an eight game heater 115 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: for Houston, a seven game winning streak for Jacksonville, and 116 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: like you said, every everything else that that could have 117 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: aided the Colts. It seems like since the the bye week, 118 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: excuse me, the Colts have gotten no help at all 119 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: from anybody though, and they have nobody else to blame 120 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: other than themselves. But the reality is, I mean, this 121 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: is just sort of a you know, statistical anomaly where 122 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: I mean, what could go wrong has gone wrong for 123 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: the Colts, both internally and externally late in the season. 124 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that just it makes it even tougher, right, And 125 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: you don't you never want to live that way, right, 126 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: We don't want to be like you know, this game, 127 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: you know, yes, sorry for us playing the refs. Yeah 128 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: it wasn't going But like you lost square, we lost 129 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: a bunch of games, close games, and losing all these 130 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: games in a row, you no one to blame but ourselves, 131 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: and yeah, it's just it's just it's just really frustrating 132 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: to to not you know, just get a chance in 133 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Right again, with how this with how this 134 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: team started, with how this season started, you know, I 135 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: just didn't think we'd be sitting here today talking like this. 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, several members of this team still on 137 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the roster, right, I mean you you retired after the 138 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season, so a lot of holdover still here. 139 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner, Zaire Franklin, Quittin Nelson, Jonathan Taylor, Braden Smith, 140 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Have you had a chance 141 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: to talk to to any of these guys and if so, 142 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: how how might they be feeling here? 143 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I haven't had a chance to talk to them. 144 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: Try to, you know, I really do try to leave 145 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: him alone during the season for sure, because I know 146 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: it's just you're pulled in a lot of different directions 147 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: and you're trying to focus on on something. But I'll 148 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: get a chance to talk to some of them, you know, 149 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: coming up this offseason. You know, it's just they got 150 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: to just be you know, frustrated, reeling a little bit 151 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: just like, you know, kind of at a loss, like 152 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: how did this happen? Just how you know, similar to 153 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: how the fans feel. And you know, there's no one 154 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: that feels worse than those guys right there, those veteran 155 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: leaders that have been around and seeing how this story 156 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 2: is kind of gone in the past, and then another 157 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: year where it's you know, ending in disappointment. It's just 158 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: it's just really tough, really tough pill to swallow for 159 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: those guys. And you know they'll get the offseason to 160 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: kind of reflect and see maybe what they could have 161 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: done to help or or change. And sometimes it's just 162 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: you know, the circumstances went the way they did, and 163 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: you know it happened, you know, played out the way 164 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: it was supposed to play out, and it didn't go 165 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: your way. And that's life at the same time. So 166 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: so yeah, definitely feeling for those guys and who've kind 167 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: of been around and seeing the story before. 168 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: You know, I've been doing this for a long time, 169 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, podcasts and radio shows. It did sports talk 170 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: radio for for almost a decade, and you know that 171 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: the phone lines are you know, people call in, they 172 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: have things to say, they have opinions. So fans out 173 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: there they're p o Yeah, I get it, yeah right, 174 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: but but where does where does the fans frustration How 175 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: does that compare to a cults player or a coach frustration. 176 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: I have to imagine, like I mean, if you're pissed 177 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: off as a fan. Imagine how you know a guy 178 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: like Taekwon Lewis Field or a guy like Zaire Franklin Fields. 179 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, a guy that's actually doing it, putting in 180 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: all the work, sacrificing time and his body and putting 181 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: everything on the line, and still from a playoff standpoint, 182 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have much to show up. 183 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: Ye, I mean, Matt, I still we've talked about the show. 184 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: I still wake up in the middle of the night thinking 185 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty one loss to Jacksonville, Like, you know, 186 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: that's four or five whatever years ago, So thinking. 187 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: Of backing up in a cold sweat. 188 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like I'm that still happens. So that's what 189 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: these guys are feeling. These you know, these are scars 190 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: that these guys are going to live throughout the rest 191 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: of their lives and they're gonna be thinking about it. Yeah, 192 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: And I get it, like fans should be upset because 193 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: you know, the way it fell off, it wasn't the standard, 194 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: it wasn't good enough, right, and it's got to be better. 195 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: But trust me, these players, these guys are they're they're 196 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: they're ultimate competitors and they're probably a little bit embarrassed 197 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: the way this went down. I mean, they just you know, 198 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: you're on this losing skid right now, and you know, 199 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: these guys are guys who been ultimate competitors their whole 200 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: life and are used to winning. So you know, it's 201 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: it's really tough on those guys, and you know, I 202 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: feel for them, and hopefully I get a chance to 203 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: talk to some of them here coming here soon. 204 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you're doing a great job right now of 205 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: putting yourself and their shoes because you literally have been 206 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: not that long ago. So what what about now? 207 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: All Right? 208 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: You you went into the week of practice last week 209 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: with a chance, right, and then that chance was ripped 210 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: from you Saturday, the day before the game. So you 211 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: still played the game with, you know, the knowledge of 212 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: we're out of the playoffs, but you had what less 213 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: than twenty four hours to deal with it. Now you 214 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: have an entire week. Last week you had the intensity 215 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: of the chance to make the playoffs. This week you don't. 216 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: This week, you go, you know, going into the game, 217 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: this is our last game, period, Right, We're gonna fly 218 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: to Houston and then the season's gonna be over, and 219 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: then you know, some guys are gonna get released. Some 220 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: guys are gonna leave the team in free agency. You know, 221 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: some guys might retire. Who knows, right, that's that's the 222 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: business of the NFL. But again, you talked about the 223 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: intensity last week. What about now you know going into Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 224 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: you're not going to make the playoffs? Do you since 225 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't just Devil's advocate, do you sense a drop 226 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: off in intensity when you're a player in that moment? 227 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Because training camp, regular season, all off season, and OTA's 228 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: it's all about We're going to work and bust our 229 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: tail with one goal of mine to make the playoffs, 230 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: to win the division, get home playoff games, make the 231 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Now all those goals are gone. So do 232 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: you do you do you think the intensity might drop 233 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: off for the Colts in this situation? Human nature might 234 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: kick you. 235 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's there. It'd be you know, silly 236 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: for me to come here and be like, there's not 237 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: some form of human nature to that. But what I 238 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: you know, I've been a part of teams where we 239 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: were done early, right, and there's no chance of I'm 240 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: thinking of what seventeen, you know, we were like we 241 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: were like four and twelve or something like that. 242 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,479 Speaker 3: But there you so what, I showed up to practice. 243 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 2: And we knew, you know, you knew, you know, you're 244 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: out right, you show up to practice that first day, 245 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: and if you don't bring intensity, you're gonna get embarrassed 246 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: on that football field really fast, because it's still the NFL, right, 247 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: And hopefully guys will learn that quickly. And again this 248 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: veteran leadership will will wake these guys up who are 249 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: being like, Hey, I'm just gonna kind of go through 250 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: the motions this week. Hey, you'll probably get yourself hurt, 251 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: be you'll get yourself embarrassed, and see, you have a 252 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: job to do. Have some pride in your work, and 253 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: and and hopefully that you know, the veteran leaders will 254 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: will wake the guys up to show that and show 255 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: the pride that they have. But but yeah, it'd be 256 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 2: silly to be like, hey, it's not you know, you're 257 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: not gonna have the same intensity you would have if 258 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: you were, you know, going to work for a playoff 259 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: game for that week, right, But but yeah, you still 260 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: got a job to do, and so you got to 261 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: put in the work. 262 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: And when it comes to guys who are free agents, 263 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: like hypothetically, if you're here on a one year deal 264 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: and you're a free agent and you're out of the playoffs. 265 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean people talk, right, yeah, I mean how important 266 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: is it? Like if if player is going to hit 267 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: the open market in March and there's a coach on 268 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: another team that calls a coach, a Colt's assistant coach, like, hey, 269 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: what do you think of this guy? Like, you have 270 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: to be able to you have if you're the player, 271 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: you have to be able to force the coach the 272 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: cult the Colts coach I should say to say, we 273 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: were out of the playoffs, but this guy still busted 274 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: as you know what, every single day, regardless of the 275 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: implications on Sunday. 276 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the same guy every single day. That's 277 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: what any everybody wants. Every coach wants consistency from a player. 278 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what the circumstances are, that you're the 279 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: same guy every single day and every single day in 280 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: this building. You know, as a player is you know, 281 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: you have to have a little bit of gratitude that 282 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: you're an NFL player and what you're being asked to 283 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: do and and to be able to achieve the highest 284 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: level of football. And when you don't you know, reflect 285 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: on that or you know, take advantage of that or 286 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: understand you know, the responsibility that comes with that. Then 287 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: you know you're you're doing yourself a disservice. And like 288 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: you said, people talk every days, you know, another notch 289 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: on your resume, and when you don't put good film 290 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: out there, like you're just you know, hurting your career 291 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: and hurting your reputation. 292 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: So then what is the difference. Is there a difference 293 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: between as a former player? Is there a difference between 294 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: the culture eight and eight? Is there a difference between 295 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: eight and nine and nine and eight? Eight and nine 296 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: means you've lost seven straight games to close out the season. 297 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Nine and eight means you salvage the season with a 298 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: win in week eighteen and you have a winning record. 299 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say there's a big difference 300 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: in nineteen eight and eighty nine, but there's a big 301 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: difference in losing seven games to end your season, right, 302 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: So I think a win is really important as far 303 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: as that goes, and just getting that little bit of 304 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: the sour taste out of your mouth that hey, we 305 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: still can go win a football game, right, Like, you know, 306 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: we've kind of forgotten how to do that and then 307 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: lost a lot of tight games. So let's get a 308 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 2: win so that we can remind ourselves, Hey, we know 309 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 2: how to win football. And like you said to be 310 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: in a show, it's a new year, right in twenty 311 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: twenty six. Let's go get a win in twenty twenty six. 312 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: All right, So as we sit here and tape this 313 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: right now as we talk to you, we are talking 314 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: to you before there's anything definitive from head coach Shane 315 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: Stikeen when it comes to the game plan and the 316 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: quarterback decision for Week eighteen against the Houston Texans. We 317 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: don't know definitively right now as we speak, if it's 318 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: going to be Philip Rivers, if it's going to be 319 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: Rightly Leonard perhaps, or maybe the off chance that Anthony 320 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: Richardson comes off of injured reserve and has a chance 321 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: to be part of the active roster and have a 322 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: chance to start in the final game of the season. 323 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: So we'll wait and see on that. But hypothetically, Jack, 324 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: if Philip Rivers has played his last game not only 325 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: with the Colts but in the NFL and three starts 326 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: this year with the Colts, he started against Seattle, San 327 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: Francisco and the Jaguars, completed sixty three percent of his 328 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: passes through for over five hundred yards, four touchdowns, three interceptions. 329 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it was arguably better than I 330 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: would have expected, considering the Colts were down to their 331 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: third quarterback after losing Daniel Jones uh To to an 332 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: achilles injury a couple of weeks ago against the Jacksonville Jaguars. 333 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: And he comes out of retirement age forty four and 334 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: all of that. But if he if he has played 335 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: his last game in the NFL, I guess encapsulate the 336 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: seventeen years prior to this and then just the unique 337 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: situation of the last three weeks, how will you remember 338 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: totality wise, Philip Rivers with all that he's accomplished and 339 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: the brain that he has playing football. 340 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he's just fearless, right, I Mean, that's what 341 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: I think of Phil, Like to come out and want 342 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: to do this right and knowing that it could go 343 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: really bad, and then it went you know, solid right, 344 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: it went pretty good, went okay, right, you know, he's 345 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: he would say, you know, I wish we had got 346 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: to win if that was his last you know, his 347 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: last start. But but yeah, it's I mean, what a 348 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: what a fearless competitor man. And it was so fun 349 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: to just watch him snap right back into you know 350 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: the old Phil and talking trash and yelling at the 351 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: refs and you know, and then then also being at 352 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and and call him plays and 353 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: and just watching his brain work. You know, you just 354 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: don't see that a lot in the NFL anymore. Like 355 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: you know what, we kind of we grew up watching 356 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning do that, and you know, watching Philip Rivers 357 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: do that now. Is it is so fun from a 358 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: fans perspective to watch a guy kind of watch his 359 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: brain tick. So yeah, I mean, good on Phil for 360 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: for for for coming out here and and I mean, 361 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: honestly what it seems like, you know, come and help 362 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: out a buddy. You know, him and Shane are very close, 363 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: and Shane calls and and and need some help. He's like, 364 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: all right, I got your back, bud. Like I'll go 365 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: do it. I don't care, I don't care what people 366 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: say about how I look or or what it's gonna 367 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: look like. I'm gonna go out there and and try 368 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: and play some more ball because I love football, so 369 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: so good on phill and and and and really cool 370 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: to to kind of watch him operate these past few weeks. 371 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: Well, he said that no matter what, you know, his decision, 372 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna have any regrets. Yeah, like, I'm just 373 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: gonna go out there because I have everything that you 374 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: just said. I want to help a friend. I love 375 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: this game. I still think I can play. I can 376 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: be useful. I know a lot of guys inside this 377 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: locker room. No matter how it goes three and oho 378 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: or zero and three or heck, maybe he starts Sunday, 379 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: maybe it's you know, a fourth game in that mix 380 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: as well. But he said he was gonna have no 381 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: regrets about this. How much do you think he's gonna 382 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: remember the last month or so for the rest of 383 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: his life. 384 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: I think I'll remember it for I think it's gonna 385 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: be one of his favorite memories from playing football. 386 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: Like I he had to have so much fun. 387 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: And again, I know the results didn't go the way 388 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 2: you know, he wanted him to go, the way we 389 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: wanted him to go as Colts fans, But but he 390 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: had to have so much fun. I can't imagine like 391 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: just hopping into a practice right now and being like 392 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: go play, going to play football, like he had to 393 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: have so much fun because there's no you know, once 394 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: you retire, there's no way to replicate that. You can coach, 395 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: right and you know he's coaching high school and you 396 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: know I've helped out high school. You can do all 397 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: that stuff, but there's nothing that could replicate you know, 398 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: truly playing that game and running out in front of 399 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: the crowd and you know, converting a big third down 400 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: and things like that. You can't replicate it. So to 401 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: get another chain into that, I mean, that had been 402 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: so cool for Phil and for his whole family. 403 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: And he said he was really excited. One of the 404 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: components about this decision was showing that his younger kids, 405 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: because we know he has a lot of children. Okay, 406 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: it's been well chronicled, but some of the younger kids 407 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: never got to see him play, never got to see 408 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: him play in his prime. So he was excited for 409 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: the younger side of his family to get a chance 410 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: to actually see him physically out there play football. Why, right, 411 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: see dad in action to do it. This is a 412 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: hypothetical question to you, but like if you were able 413 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: to come out of retirement. What would you most be 414 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: excited for when it comes to your kids being able 415 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: to see you play, Like, what what things would you 416 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: be excited for them to see in you in terms 417 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: of your playing style and you know, for them to 418 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: emulate you coming out of retirement playing football the way 419 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: you did for for so long nine years with the Colts. Yeah, 420 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: that's I don't know if that makes sense. No, it 421 00:18:58,880 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: does make I like. 422 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I would want him to see effort, right, 423 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: I mean that's you know, and being a good teammate. 424 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: There's nothing that those are the two things that you 425 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: know you can control, right, and and two things that 426 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: were always important to me, you know, and and playing 427 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: hard no matter what the circumstances are. And and and 428 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: being a good teammate. 429 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: Right. 430 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: You know I've talked about in here, you know, rushing 431 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: to help a Jonathan Taylor up, you know, after he 432 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: gets tacked. Just little things like that. I'd I'd want 433 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: them to see the little things, you know, in between plays, 434 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: and and the way I carried myself hopefully that could 435 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: you know that he could emulate. But it got me thinking, 436 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: as you were talking about Phil, do you think like 437 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: gunners like coaching up Phil. You know his son Gunner, 438 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: who plays quarterback. You know Phil because they're running the 439 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: same offense. 440 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: Dad, Hey Dad, you missed the out there. 441 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: You missed the flat. You know he was opening the flat. 442 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: You told me that's our first read, and yeah, you 443 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: did it. Look I was thinking of that the other night, 444 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: like he's not doing what he's coaching and something to 445 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: do on the field, and so you get a teenager, 446 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 2: you know, you know, all that goes so uh so 447 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: that had to be that had to be really fun 448 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: for the Rivers family to sit down at the dinner 449 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: able and Dad be like, or you know, his son 450 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: Gunner'd be like, hey, Dad, let's watch some film first 451 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: first reads to the flat? Right, you know we're running 452 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: this concept. You know you miss that. That's good, be 453 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: really funny. 454 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: And how many players did he have? I mean, I'm 455 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: sure like close to a dozen maybe more. Write the 456 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: story out there that some of the the players on 457 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: his high school football team flew up or drove up 458 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: to the game to watch the Colts play the Jaguar. 459 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: So we had, you know a lot of those those 460 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: Fair Hope Alabama Saint Michael kids on his on his 461 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: team watching him play football in the stands. Now, how 462 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: many how many kids from the pe class would come? 463 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 464 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: Play coming out? 465 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 3: That's funny. 466 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: Sholl out some ticket though for that. 467 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: Oh yes, because they're all here. That's the problem. 468 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: I'd be all available. 469 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: I'd be in big trouble. I'd be in big trouble. 470 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: No, that's the you know they obviously they were joking 471 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: with me when when Phil came out, was like, hey, 472 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: when are you gonna go mount And like, no, I 473 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: can't come out. 474 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: You know, I gotta teach you guys. 475 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: Right big, I got a job already. 476 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, how I mean, how cool for those high 477 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 2: school kids, like you know, you know Phil's preaching all 478 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: the right things to him, I'm sure down there in 479 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: Fair Hope and teaching them the life lessons, how to 480 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: walk the walk they come with football, and then he 481 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: goes out there and walks the walks. 482 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, how cool is that? 483 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: And you know, coach rivers out there playing football and 484 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: had to be cool for those guys to see. 485 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: All right. So Week eighteen with the quarterback situation, Riley 486 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: Leonard playing for the Colts, playing that defense on the 487 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: road at NRG Stadium, what do you like about Riley 488 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: Leonard's game. The rookie out of Notre Dame, He's played 489 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: I think three or four games. Most substantial body of 490 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: work came in that game a couple weeks ago, I 491 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: think it was Week fourteen in Jacksonville, after Daniel Jones 492 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: tears his achilles. What do you like about Riley Leonard's 493 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: skill set going into the final game of this season. 494 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, his mobility, right, and you know he's going to 495 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: be going up against a really tough defense in the Texans. 496 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: You know, we've seen that earlier in the year and 497 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: the way they can kind of get after you. But 498 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: but yeah, Riley, I think you know, from the body 499 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: of work he's had this whole seas in and and 500 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: and watching the way Daniel operated right, and then he 501 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: got a chance to watch how Phil operated right. 502 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: He had to learn a lot. 503 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: So I'm really excited for him to go out there 504 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: and and and take on the challenge and get an 505 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: opportunity to play and and again, his legs and his 506 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: mobility will be a you know, a key to his success, 507 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: I think. And uh so, yeah, it'll be cool to 508 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: see what Riley can do. 509 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: So, what what are the things the Colts can do 510 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: outside of that. Yeah, what can they do with Leonard 511 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: that they couldn't do with Philip Rivers the last couple 512 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: of games. 513 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Riley can run the ball, right, you know we 514 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: can do some zone read stuff, is what I see. 515 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: I see, you know more you know Dan think Daniel 516 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: early in the season of getting out of the pocket. Right, 517 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: You'll see those slide routes will come back. You know, 518 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: we saw we used to hit pitt Or Warring on 519 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: them a lot. You know, those guys come in there 520 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: a block a lot, so when they come around, they 521 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: come back behind the lot of scrimge on those slide routes. 522 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 3: You can get them opening in the flat. 523 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: So I see a lot of that, you know, you know, 524 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: come to fruition, you know, coming up in the game 525 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: plan this week. And uh and again I like the 526 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: way Riley carries himself and and and again. I think 527 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: he's he's done the world call year and prep and 528 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 2: practice and the way he's worked. I think he'll put 529 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: on a good show in come Sunday. 530 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: And you're good with this call. 531 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: Right. 532 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Considering the circumstances, the Bolts are eliminated. Philip Rivers is 533 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: forty four, probably not coming back here next year. You're 534 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: okay with this decision? 535 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the right call for all parties involved. 536 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: And then get Riley a chance to get out there, 537 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: Like I said, get out there and show what he's got. Right, 538 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: he came in and you know, he did solid when 539 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: he came in for Daniel there and down in Jacksonville 540 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: after the achilles and move the ball and threw a 541 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: couple I remember him throwing a couple of really good 542 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: go bra really good go balls, which we have some 543 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: guys that can go get go balls, so you know 544 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: that's a good sign. So so yeah, I think it's 545 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: the right call and it'll be fun to see Riley 546 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: out there operating well. 547 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: Bigger picture, I mean, even if Daniel Jones does come 548 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: back and resigns with the Colts in free agency again, 549 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: he's on a one year deal, so if he comes 550 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: back again, he tore his achilles in late November early December, 551 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: so that's I mean, I have I don't think anybody 552 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: definitively anymore as timelines on acls and achilles. I mean 553 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: modern medicine and all these athletes are just freaks and 554 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: everybody's different anyways, But hypothetically, I mean, even if Jones 555 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: does come back, he's gonna miss some time. He's gonna 556 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: miss some time in the spring, he could miss some 557 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: time in the summer, and it's fair to wonder if 558 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: he's gonna be back in time for training camp, preseason, 559 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: regular season. So hypothetically, even if Jones comes back, is 560 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: rightly Leonard a viable option for the Colts just chicking 561 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: this around to maybe take over the reins for a 562 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: couple of games at the beginning of the season next years. 563 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: Is his skill set and his future that bright for 564 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: this team? 565 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: Well, here's his audition, right, I mean, this is the audition. 566 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: You know, we've kind of talked about it earlier in 567 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: this podcast, man, Like, this is an audition for everybody 568 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: across the NFL, righty, It's not just for the Colts, Like, 569 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: and that's how you got to take it. It's another 570 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: notch on your resume. You know, what can you do 571 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: against a top defense in the NFL at their place? 572 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: You know who's they're going to be playing for something? 573 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: Right They're still competing for that a AFC South title, 574 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: So so yeah, it's gonna be a great opportunity for 575 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 2: him to kind of show what he's got and and yeah, 576 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: you know, I think Riley has shown a lot of 577 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: good stuff. I think he had a really good preseason. 578 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of he had a game down in Cincinnati, 579 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: was at Cincinnati where he like balled out. 580 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Right, I like a fifty yard pass the LaQuan Tripp. 581 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm picturing in my head. And it 582 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: was beautiful. 583 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like he throws a good go route. 584 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 2: So that's a good thing, right, And and again having 585 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: the whole year of learning, you know, behind Daniel, right 586 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: and then learning you know, getting more time you know 587 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: with Philip Rivers. I know he spent time with him 588 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: in the past. Like who better to learn you know, 589 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: seeing defenses and where to go with a ball than 590 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers. So so yeah, this will be a great 591 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: audition for him to to kind of show what he's 592 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: got and and and to see, you know, if he's 593 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: a viable option going into next year to kind of 594 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: you know, phil phill a role. 595 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: All right, So Riley Leonard is going to quarterback to 596 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: Colts in week eighteen, So we'll look forward to that. Obviously, 597 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: you know, a different set of circumstances for the Colts 598 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: as they close out this season. But let's talk about 599 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: the fallout right again. The big picture is the Colts 600 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: started seven to one, missing the playoffs for the fifth 601 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: straight season, and Jack, to me again, we'll have a 602 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: lot more time to get into this after the season's over, 603 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: when the dust settles, will put things into better perspective. 604 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: But I think you know, as it relates to now, right, 605 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: when you have the realization that you're not going to 606 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, I think the decision makers for the Colts, Jack, 607 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: they're going to have to balance what I'm calling the 608 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: promise of a seven and one start, yeah, and the 609 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: absolute great football played by the Colts in the first 610 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: two months of this season, I mean historic numbers offensive efficiency. 611 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was experiencing career resurgence and there's no reason 612 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: to think that that wasn't going to continue if he 613 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have the fibula and then the achilles. So they're 614 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: going to have to balance the promise of the first 615 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: two months of the season with a healthy Daniel Jones, Jack, 616 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: versus just the overall shortcomings of this franchise for the 617 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: last decade or so. I mean throw out the last 618 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: five years. But right, I mean there's only been one 619 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: playoff win since twenty fourteen. Yeah, there's only been There's 620 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: been zero AFC Style championship since twenty fourteen, you know, 621 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: no home playoff games in that time, So I mean, 622 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: where how do you balance all of that, right, the 623 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: big picture versus when we were healthy and humming, we 624 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: were a pretty good football team. 625 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Matt Weirres, it was like every week 626 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: you were coming in here reading a new stat that 627 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: this offense was accomplishing that was like hadn't been done 628 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy. 629 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, insane, it's the merger. 630 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it was. I mean, it's crazy. 631 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: It's just again, it just makes it so tough, right 632 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: because it looked like, you know, you know, we've kind 633 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: of been trying to break down that door, right and 634 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: getting to the playoffs and getting a home playoff game, 635 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: Like you said, it hadn't been since twenty fourteen. Then 636 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: that's a long time. That was my second season, so 637 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: that's a really long time ago. But man, it's just 638 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: really tough. And you don't ever want to blame injuries, 639 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: but you know, I think injuries played a huge role 640 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: in this season. And every season's got its story, right, 641 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: and you don't want to just say knock them all 642 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: off on, you know, and mush them all together. 643 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: Every season's got a story. 644 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 2: And I really think this year would have been different 645 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: had we not had some of the key injuries that 646 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: we had, And I think it would have turned out different. 647 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: And you know, maybe that's me being a little too optimistic, 648 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: but that's how I kind of see it. 649 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look at I mean, during the eight and 650 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: two start, the Colts led the NFL in scoring thirty 651 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: two points per game. That's dropped all the way down 652 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: to nineteen points per game during this six game losing skid. 653 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: The Colts have been held to twenty or less than 654 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: six of their last seven. They've been held to twenty 655 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: or less in seven games this season. They've lost all 656 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: of them. I mean, is it that easy? Is it 657 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: that easy to say with Daniel Jones this offense is 658 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: pretty good? Without him, it struggled. 659 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is. 660 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: And I think maybe the opponent changed, right, I think 661 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: this schedule definitely got more difficult as the season went on. 662 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: But you lose your starting quarterback and you lose not 663 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: only his ability and what he was doing on the field, 664 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: but we were talking about how Daniel was, you know, 665 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: quizzing guys throughout the week, right and you know, and 666 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: bringing him in to watch a little clip of film, 667 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: and just his the way he was carrying himself, his leadership. 668 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: It's just infectuous. When you have a quarterback who does 669 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 2: all those little things too, I mean, and you lose that, 670 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: it really does hurt a team. I mean it again, 671 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: it's easy. You don't want to make the injury excuse, 672 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: but it's this season seems, you know, not so much 673 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: like others. And I really think the injury portion of 674 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: losing your starting quarterback really did hurt this team. And 675 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 2: you know, you throw Deforce Buckner in there too, as 676 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like other big injuries and different guys on defense. 677 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: So so yeah, you know, again, I hate doing that 678 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: and I don't like doing that, but I think it 679 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: really is kind of the story of how this season went. 680 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: And I've heard it said and I understand this, but 681 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: I would love to pose this to you because I 682 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: think you can explain it pretty well. Someone said, when 683 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: the Colts lost Daniel Jones, they lost Jonathan Taylor as well, 684 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: what do you think what do they mean by that? 685 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, especially early when you know, when 686 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: we started having fill up, everything was in gun and 687 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: you know, when you're in gun and you're trying to 688 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: do run game, it just doesn't work as well at 689 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: the angles for the whole line changes. You don't get 690 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor going downhill. And we really lost the rollout 691 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: pass game, right the nakeds then that's what they're calling 692 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: naked rollouts. And you know, not having that, you know, 693 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: be a fake or being an option off of, you know, 694 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: off of the run game to Jonathan, you know, it 695 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: just it really hurt his game, and and and and 696 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: and how we could attack a defense and and yeah, 697 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: I think that's probably well said, and and and how 698 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: much you know, you don't realize it until it's gone, right, 699 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: how much of effect you know, Daniel was, you know, 700 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: and and and helping Jonathan Taylor get going, and and 701 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: and the way they were scheming up the you know, 702 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: run game. It was a lot of early passes and 703 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: rollouts early in the first half, so a lot of 704 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: games with Daniel and then and then run the ball 705 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: in the second half is why the defense is spread 706 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: out yeah, well they have to count for them. You've 707 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: got them unbalanced, right, And so yeah, I think that's 708 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: a that's well put. I haven't heard that said, but 709 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: I mean it's accurate and accurate statement for sure. 710 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: So I think there's more to it than this. But 711 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: to keep it simple, I wrote down that the three 712 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: biggest reasons, right in terms of the fallout when you 713 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: go seven to one and eight and two and now 714 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: you miss the playoffs. Unbelievably missed the playoffs, but you 715 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: do it with two games to go, is even more frustrating. 716 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: But to me that the three biggest keys or reasons 717 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: why the Colts missed the playoffs, in no particular order. 718 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned injuries. I also wrote down just not being 719 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: able to win close games and having too many miss chances. 720 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: All right, so that's number two, and the number three 721 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: not being able to beat good teams, not being able 722 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: to beat teams who are over five hundred and like 723 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: you said, the schedule has certainly ramped up. 724 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: What is it? 725 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: I wrote it down the first half of the season 726 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: the Colts played. They played ten games, but they only 727 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: played four teams with a winning record in the first 728 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: ten games. And they're going to close out the season 729 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: against six straight opponents who have at least eleven wins. Okay, 730 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: so no question the schedule heated up. But not being 731 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: able to beat good teams, teams that are over five 732 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: hundred that are gonna make the playoffs. So rank them 733 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: in order, Jack, what are the biggest ones for you? Injuries, 734 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: close games, not being able to finish games in the 735 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and not being able to beat good teams. 736 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: Rank those in terms of why the Colts missed the playoffs. 737 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well again, I hate doing injuries, but losing your 738 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: starting quarterback and a guy that was playing at an 739 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: MVP level. I mean, go back to when the fibula first, 740 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: you know, the fracture of fibula first started, and it's 741 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: hinder Daniel. I think that plays a huge part in 742 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: the way the season kind of went. And you know, 743 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: the first half was rolling in the NFL part, right, 744 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: And so I would I would put injuries first, and 745 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: then you gotta win close games, because I would put 746 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: that second, and then last, I would put you know, 747 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: beating good teams, which those are pretty even in my eyes, but. 748 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: They all go hand, Yeah, they all go hand hand. 749 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: But you you know, you can't. 750 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: Every game in the NFL is close for the most part. 751 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: There are one score games, you know, seventy five I 752 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm guessing seventy five eight. 753 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: There are one score games the last four minutes. 754 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: You gotta find a way to win those, and we 755 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: just haven't, right, we haven't figured that out. And you know, 756 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, and I don't know 757 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: how to fix it, but we got we gotta find 758 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: a way because that's just what the NFL is. And 759 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: you're not going to be in the playoffs if you 760 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: don't win some of these close games. And you know 761 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: you're playing good teams late in the year, you split those, right, 762 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: We split those less you know what was it six 763 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: teams with you get go three and three in those 764 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: because you're beating bad teams early in the season, right, 765 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: you're taking care of your business, right, you're giving yourself 766 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: some leeway. You just got to split those right and 767 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: win some of those. 768 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: And it goes back to injuries though, like if you 769 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: this is me talking not you, but if Daniel Jones 770 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: and DeForest Buckner primarily yes, are healthy, like the heart 771 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: and soul of the guy on offense and the heart 772 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: and soul of the guy on defense. If those two 773 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: guys are healthy and humming late in the season, and 774 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: you play all these good teams late in the year, 775 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: you may not go undefeated. No, but you're not gonna 776 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: go over. No, you're gonna split them right to some degree, 777 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: and you're not going to be in this situation. You're 778 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna be ten eleven wins going into weekend team with 779 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: a much better chance of probability to make the playoffs, 780 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: and heck, you're probably still alive to win the Division two. 781 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: That's just crazy. 782 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: That's just me talking. Yeah. 783 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: No, but that I agree with you, Matt. I agree 784 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 3: with you completely. 785 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: It all kind of all. It's all big one ball 786 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: of sorrow, right, it is one. Yeah, you know, get 787 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: the tiny violins. 788 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 3: Out for yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's how we're feeling. 789 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: But it's just, you know it, it just stinks. You know, 790 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: we're sitting here talking about home playoff games. That's why 791 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 2: I keep thinking about as we're as we're kind of 792 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: discussing how the season went and and thinking of, you know, 793 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: number one seeds, we're thinking of home playoff games. 794 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: The way at the beginning of this year. 795 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: Wait, man, I just feel sick for those guys and 796 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: how it kind of all fell apart, and you know, 797 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: starting with the injury to Daniel and and like you said, 798 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: to Forrest too. I can't remember exactly when the Forest 799 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: first heard his neck was. 800 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: In Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh, yeah, week nine, I think. 801 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's just again like you said, and those 802 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: are truly are like the Forrest's leadership skills and talents 803 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: and the way he plays football and the way he 804 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: carries himself and holds guys accountable, and the way he 805 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: plays man that you can't tell me that wasn't missed 806 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: from that defense out there, and the way you can 807 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 2: get after the passer. And then Daniel, you know, Daniel Jones, 808 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 2: the same way on as far as the offense goes. 809 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, really really tough pill to swallow with how 810 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: this thing's kind of shaken up. 811 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what's more unbelievable the Colts six games slide 812 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: and losing seven of eight, or Jacksonville winning seven in 813 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: a row after they were what three and five, five 814 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: and four somewhere in there. I have to go back 815 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 1: and look, or Houston winning eight straight games after starting 816 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: the year oh and three. 817 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 2: It's like you forget about that, right because we know 818 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 2: we're stuck in our own little bubble here. But it's like, 819 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 2: I don't even realize they've won that many games. I 820 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: know they've been winning, but like to win that many 821 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: in a row is just it doesn't make sense. What's 822 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: up with the AFC South. This is supposed to be 823 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 2: around here again. 824 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Houston's a great team and they deserve it 825 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: right they're in and I mean C J. Stroud missed 826 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: three games with a concussion. Davis Mills comes in, great job, 827 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: he weathers the storm and and and takes over the 828 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: wheel and keeps it right down the middle. But I 829 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: mean they don't they don't score a boatload of points. 830 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 3: You'll say, what that Will Anderson guy? 831 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: I understand. I understand, like one one side of the 832 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: ball is kind of dominating that team of carrying a little. 833 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: Bit that Will Anderson Guy is le git man, I 834 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: have got I don't have to block him. 835 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad I don't have to block hic here too. Yeah, No, 836 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: that'd be no. 837 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean they had plenty there when I was you know, 838 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 2: when I was playing with Watt and Merciless. Merciless gosh, 839 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: I still wake up thinking of Mercy, that merciless No 840 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: one talked about merciless mercy. He might have been the best, 841 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 2: like yeah, you know, just so play out, strong, great hands. 842 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: Like great last name too, Yeah, yes, yes, defensive. 843 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: Yes he was. 844 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: He's an Illinois product, but yeah he was a stud 845 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,479 Speaker 2: and Clowney. You know they had Clowny too. Clowney still 846 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: going but uh but yeah, it's just it's just stinks, man. 847 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: It just like the fact that a f C South 848 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: is is everything was doing this to us after the beginning, yeah, 849 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: literally right, and the. 850 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: High Yeah, I mean we're flying home from Berlin two 851 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: and a half game lead in the a f C 852 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: South and all these teams are kind of tread and 853 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: water a little bit. You're like, okay, we we have 854 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: finally built up the wiggle room. We've gotten off to 855 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: a great we have this margin for air, and they 856 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: used it up by the end of November. 857 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy. 858 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: We laugh about it now, right, Yeah, we're in it. 859 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 3: Because we're in it. We're in it. 860 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: You gotta almost laugh about it because holse, do you 861 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: respond to it? 862 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 3: Man? 863 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: Exactly a coping mechanism. 864 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: It's just stinks. Man. 865 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: It just I feel so bad for those guys that 866 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: are putting in the work and the coaches who are 867 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 2: putting in the work for it's just kind of just 868 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 2: you know, fall of the rails here is just it's 869 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: just really tough. Really, it's really tough build us wall. 870 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: Like I said, Yeah, well, we can't end on a downer. 871 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: We know, we got to ramp things back up a 872 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: little bit. That's what we do here. To close out 873 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: the podcast. If you're new to the show, we have 874 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: some fun with Jack Doyle, two time Pro Bowler, nine 875 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: year colt tight end. We know him as the great 876 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: football player, but let's get to know him off the field. 877 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: We call it you don't know Jack, So Jack, this 878 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: is where we get to know you a little bit. 879 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: And obviously, this week's theme is centered around the holiday season. 880 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: Last week we talked about, you know, your favorite Christmas 881 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: presents and your favorite Christmas traditions. But this week we 882 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: want to know Jack, where do you stand on New 883 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: Year's Eve? Overrated? Underrated? I'm gonna say it's overrated, overrated? 884 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I don't care, right, you know, I don't 885 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 2: care about New Year's Eve. 886 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just another. 887 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,479 Speaker 2: D you don't have your party pants. No, I don't 888 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: have my party pants. I've never I've never really gotten 889 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 2: the hype around it. 890 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 3: I really have it like same. I mean, I'll watch 891 00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 3: the ball drop. 892 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: I guess it's amateur night. 893 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 3: Brother. 894 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 2: My kids will try and be like all hyped up 895 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: right and try and stay up, and I'll probably be 896 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 2: asleep on the couch. 897 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 3: I probably won't make. 898 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: So this is I don't know if you've ever pulled 899 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: this off or try to pull this off, but this 900 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: is the Joe Wrights move. He's got a gaggle of 901 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: kids too, Okay, all right, he's got what eight of them? 902 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 903 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So his move is he'll he'll like change all 904 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: the clocks in his house. 905 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 3: It's such a baller move. Yeah. 906 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: So, like when it's like nine o'clock, he'll fast forward 907 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: it to like eleven thirty. Last year's there, and he'll 908 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: pull up He'll pull up a YouTube video, put it 909 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: on the TV and say, get kids, gather around two 910 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: minutes ten nine, and then they go to bed at 911 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: like nine ten o'clock. I'm like, that's a pros. 912 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: Want to move. I might try and steal it. Yeah, 913 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: I might try and steal it. Oh no, you know, 914 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: it'd be hard to change all the clocks though with something. 915 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you have to be pretty comprehensive about it. 916 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got kids out, you do it the 917 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: day before, tablets and yeah, I do it the day before, right, 918 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: all right, So I'm gonna do it tonight. 919 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: You know, we're shooting this on Tuesday, So I'm gonna 920 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: do it tonight. So it's ready for New Year's. Holy smokes. 921 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, definitely overrated in my eyes. I don't get 922 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: so you never went out though, like in college. Never 923 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: I guess a big party or party bus. I guess, 924 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: never did anything big. 925 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: I remember like going to like the elbow Room downtown 926 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 3: like in college. 927 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, that's it. 928 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 3: That's like, that's what I remember doing for New Year's 929 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 3: an elbow room. 930 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, what were you doing down there? 931 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, that's what you're like, what twenty. 932 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: Three hanging out with a bunch of fifty year olds 933 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: at the elbow room. 934 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 3: No, it was like someone like someone who grew up. 935 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: I know, some eastsider was throwing a party or something. 936 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I was probably in high school. I 937 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 3: don't even beer. I might not have been of age. 938 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 3: I don't even know that's what'll say that. But I 939 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 3: was still in college. 940 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: I wasn't playing. I wasn't playing for the Colts. I 941 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: remember that, right, I was still in college. 942 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: Fake id with Jack Doyle. 943 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 3: No, I was probably twenty one. My wife might maybe not, 944 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 3: but I was. 945 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: Probably twenty yeah yeah, but but yeah, definitely overrated. I 946 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 2: don't I don't have like a like a go to 947 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: celebration that we're gonna do anything like that. 948 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't think I can remember anything I've ever done. 949 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 2: No, I could be completely wrong in saying album room too. 950 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: I don't even know well that came there. 951 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: We check the police report, y, we'll find out what 952 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: year that was and the officer that pinched you for 953 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: a fake. 954 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 3: That was pre Beard by the way, Oh. 955 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I probably had a like one, playing a small one. 956 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 2: I could barely grow it. 957 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 3: I love it. 958 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: Any New Year's resolutions this year for Jack going into 959 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, other than to continue the podcast. 960 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely continue the podcast. Continue to hang out with 961 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor. Yeah, check, check done. I I don't know, 962 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: you know, I always try, you know, I say this 963 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 2: a lot to my kids, But I was like, I'm 964 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: gonna try and be more patient with you guys. 965 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: That's my goal, man. 966 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: So that's like and they're like, Dad, you always say that, 967 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, because it's really hot. 968 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 3: Yeah it's tough. 969 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really tough with you guys. Say my name 970 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: over and over again. Yeah, Da dad, Dad, Dad Dad. 971 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: It's like, I can't even have a chance to respond 972 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 2: to you. Right, it's my middle one, Henry. 973 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: I'll show patient if you show patients. Yeah, but we 974 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: do it together. Yeah, that's tandem. 975 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 3: That ain't gonna work. That ain't gonna work. Yeah. 976 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: They don't have they don't have resolutions. 977 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 3: No, they don't know. They're living their best lives as 978 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 3: they should be as. 979 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: The kids many kids. 980 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll go with patients. Cool. 981 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: Keep being a better version of myself. Yeah, I try 982 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: to do that all day every day. 983 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: You're either getting better you're getting worse. 984 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 3: Don't say the same. 985 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: It's right, baby, we're getting better. Here with Jack Doyle 986 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: on the Jack Doyle Podcast. I said it last week, 987 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: but it's it's been an absolute pleasure of doing this 988 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: with you, and we're gonna do it one more time 989 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: next week to close out you know the regular season 990 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: and talk about everything that happened for the Colts in 991 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: Week eighteen. Let's get a win. 992 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 3: Let's go, can we Let's go win out in Houston. 993 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, golly, regardless of the playoffs, let's just get a win. 994 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 3: Get a win. 995 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 2: It's gonna make everybody feel just a little bit better, 996 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 2: no question, little bit better. 997 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:50,959 Speaker 3: Cure's a lot. 998 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 1: That's the great Jack Doyle. I'm Matt Taylor again. Happy 999 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: New Year, everybody. Hope you have enjoyed the podcast. We 1000 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: have certainly enjoyed bringing it to you each and every 1001 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: week here on the Colts Podcast channel. Colts and Texans 1002 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: Week eighteen down in RG Stadium, and we'll talk to 1003 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: you next week here on the Colts Podcast channel. So long, 1004 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 1: I