WEBVTT - Thou Shalt Prepare For Anything 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.040 Hi, and welcome to everywhere. I am your host, Daniel Shaffler. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:11.720 The commandment for the week thou shalt be prepared for anything. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.800 I have this theory about travel. If you prepare yourself 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.640 for just about anything, you can let go of pesky 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:35.720 expectations and you could just let everywhere unfold. And yes, 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:41.120 it does in my case, for better or for much better. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.240 And this is how I felt in Burma, or with 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:51.800 some people call it these days Mainmar. I deliberately didn't 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.520 fill my schedule with too many activities. I try to 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:59.760 have no thoughts about this begealing place. I even re 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.039 sisted to think back to Burmese Days, one of my 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:08.080 favorite or Will books. I just wanted to be open 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:12.600 to this unexplored country and whatever it wanted to show me. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:18.480 Some local food, perhaps hikes in the Grand Mountains, and 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:35.039 hopefully some pauses in between to meditate. With a recent 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:39.200 change of power and some very helpful international attention, Burma 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:44.280 is finding itself somewhere fascinatingly new, and perhaps it may 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:49.280 even be totally reborn. The country's hope is now riding 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:55.000 on its lauded hero and freedom fighter San Suki, recipient 0:01:55.040 --> 0:02:00.320 of the Nobel Peace Prize. But of course this hope 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:05.120 is precarious, to say the least. Perhaps the State Counselor, 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.280 which is really a Prime Minister, Sansuki is now caught 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:14.880 in a wild crossfire where the facts aren't crystal Conceivably, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.959 the world should be giving her the benefit of the doubt. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.799 But then again, power does all kinds of crazy things 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:29.880 to people. Could she have done more? Almost certainly, it's 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.440 not really imaginable that she couldn't. But how much of 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:37.799 this genocide, as the United Nations dumped it was or 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.120 is out of her hands in control? And if she 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.600 takes a hard line, could she once again see the 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:52.440 country fall into military rule? I'm none the less of. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.640 And then there's the persecution of the Hinga people in 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:05.000 the north who have been forced to flee to Bangladesh. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.880 Burma at this very time is a complicated and partly 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:13.000 dark place, but so was South Africa when Nelson Mandela 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:18.440 came into power. And as I said, there is always hope. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.440 Boma has erected their very own symbol of change. But 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.360 this adjustment has not come without a cost to many lives. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.680 Into the heavily adjusted expectations of the improvement of a 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:37.320 growing economy. Pausing to think whether your political views should 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:42.320 dictate your holiday plans. Well, here's your prompt. How does 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:47.160 the LGBTQ community feel going to a country like Grune 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.840 where it's punishable by death to be gay? And what 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.840 about someone of a certain race or religion who no 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:59.120 longer feels welcome in America? How do they feel about 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:05.280 coming here? Hold onto that don't for just a minute 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.440 while I bring on my next interview with Shavo a 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.920 Digion the basis from the band System of a Down, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.680 who also has the marijuana and CBD brand twenty two brand. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.120 When I tour, I like, I used to hardly see 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.279 the place. It would be like, play this show, have 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.920 a quick day, and then you're out. It's just recently, 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.000 like the last maybe four years five years where I've 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.320 been touring, and I'm like, wow, I've been missing out 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.840 on like seeing these countries. So it's like I'll wake 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.200 up at six am. Before also, I had other issues. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:38.920 I would be drinking, I'd be doing other stuff, so 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.520 I'd be falling sleep at four or five o'clock. By 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.000 the time I'm up by one or two, I'm already 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.440 you know, by over and there's a show. So now 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.080 you know I'm not doing any of that, so boom, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.280 I'm up, let's go. I go work out first and 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.680 then I go see the city. That's the thing. Now 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:59.520 My rule is if I travel to whatever place for business, 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.320 I have to add a little playtime. Like it's the rule. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.479 And sometimes when people are like, oh, there's no time, 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.560 and I'm like, I wish I made that rule for 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.760 myself earlier. You know what I mean. I need to 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.960 do my great bro, any influence is good influence for me, 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.640 you know when it comes to like culture, you know, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.920 gaining culture as I love that. How um, you were 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:26.600 born in Armenia and your family came over in seventy nights. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.799 By forty year anniversary, we just had a family reunion 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:35.680 on Saturday where the clan on my dad's side mostly, 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.120 but I'm talking about my dad's cousins. Like everyone. There 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.400 was like thirty people that moved from but we moved. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.400 The thing was like the borders were closed in seventy nights, 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.440 so we had to move to Green for the Moscow 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.840 then then Rome we were in room. I remember that 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.240 was five years old, so I was in Rome to 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.520 become as refugees become citizens, and then we were able 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.800 to come. We moved to Queens and I was gonna 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.240 be coaster, but then my mom's side kind of a 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.600 few people that came with my mom stayed in Queens 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.279 and I was in Queen's. My dad's side moved to 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.440 l A, so my dad had to go with his monks. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.280 My dad dad passed away before I was born, so 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.520 he was the man of the house. I'm not gonna 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.120 leave his mom alone. So there was a gap for 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:19.920 like a couple of months, and then my mom moved 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.839 us there because I wasn't gonna be raised without a dad. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.080 That was which God bless her for that, so I can. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:30.160 I love my family. Yeah, so I was a Hollywood kid. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.080 I thirteen thirty six Kingsley Drive, Boom. I'll never forget 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.400 that address because that's the first address I was actually 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.000 like representing, you know, like I mean, the lots of 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.040 Armenians in Los Angeles. It's like a big community. I mean, 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.640 my friend Eliza, who's Armenian, talks about it all the time. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.680 Huge at the time, though it wasn't so huge. And 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.400 it's funny that the street I grew up on is 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.920 now in a community called Little Armenia, But it wasn't 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.320 Little Arminia back then. It was just a little nothing, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.800 little night. It was a little Hollywood boarded. My parents 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.839 worked over nine to five. It was like eight. My 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.440 dad drove a lunch truck, so he would get up 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.120 at like four am, be at work by five, so 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.680 you can get the breakfast hours. But isn't this this 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.400 is the immigrant experience, right, like this is the thing 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.360 that one bedroom apartment. Until I was fifteen or fourteen 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.280 and just grinding. I saw my parents grinding, and I 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.200 just grew. My Grandma raised me mostly there, you know when, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.400 because she was the one watching me when my parents 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.000 went around. But I was in the street. Man, I 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.320 was skateboarding. I was skateboarding, and I grew up around 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.080 you know ms that gangster drown. My street was on 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.240 Kingsley and Fountain, so that's where it all started. So 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.920 I would see it and I was. I was inspired. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.680 I was I wanted to be I swear to God, 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.320 I really at some point I wanted to be a 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:45.000 part of having a posse this. But they wouldn't. It 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.560 was like they knew I was that kid that was 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.600 a skater and that he wasn't a bad kid. I 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.040 was a good kid that kept me out. Like there 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.320 was brawls going and get involved, and they pushed me 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.800 aside and they would like take a knife or whatever 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.360 a bat and I would just would be why watching this, 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.360 I would see it. Thank God, knock on wood that 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.360 that happened. And so yeah, that's how it happened. And 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.880 I just got I learned, like you know, the Chop 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.280 Suey video was made at a motel that was down 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.000 the street from my street off of Sunset in Kingsley. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.600 This is about toxicity. The whole album was about like 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.000 l A and all the like the bad things and 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.840 the good things and how people like learned and I 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.880 learned all that stuff. I saw homeless people for the 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.160 first time there. I saw drugs. I saw there. I 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.640 didn't do any but I saw it happened right right 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.200 in my I had a parking lot and there was 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.480 homeless people doing heroin and there I would see that, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.600 you know. So we went back to that motel and 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.000 they gave it to us for a day and we 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.800 shot the Chop Suey video. Crazy right, So every time 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.960 I watched that video it's not just a video. It's 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:48.559 like nostalgia. We have to go back to the Armenian 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.400 pond as the child in Armenia. Tell me what that 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.959 was like. My memory is not as good as it 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.800 would because it was I was five years old. I 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.120 remember snow, a lot of snows that play in the 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:02.839 snow there, and it was snow in Armenia because we're 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.760 a mountain this area, you know. And I remember my family, 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.680 and I remember friends, and I remember where I lived 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.640 and when my grandma lived. Everything else I think I 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.160 know from pictures and then i'll like my mom will 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.760 show a picture and the memory of that picture would 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.240 come up, of like what happened before and after that picture. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.000 But like I said, most you know, you usually remember 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.679 after four or five years old better. And that's how 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.400 I kind of know if I was if it happened 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.920 to me before five, the yeah, I'm like in Armenia, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.719 and then I'm not. And then I'm traveling at five 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.520 years old, I'm traveling from like one country to another, 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:41.200 not knowing the language. Memory. That's crazy. In therapy, they 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.200 tell you a move at a young age is the 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.280 second most traumatic thing that can happen to you. One 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.040 is death and two is a big move. Dude. I 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.679 move countries and not just one. I went from one 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.079 and then I got in Rome and then I at 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.120 that time year five years old, this is home now, 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.520 all sudden, No Queen's okay, this is home now, all 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.480 of a sudden, Hollywood, and that was home, that became home, 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.400 and that was you know that, that is my home. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.480 How I see it because I learned a lot there. Right, 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.720 So it's trauma, but it's magic. It's magic because you're five. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:20.720 So yes, it's traumatic traumatic magic. Great little friend, like 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.960 a traumatic magic. Someone forget magic realism. We're going on 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.600 traumatic magic realistic. Okay, we're gonna do something with that. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:33.640 Yes we have so tap into that magic, like do 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.320 you bring it into your music? Do you bring it 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.400 into your life? I must have it, must have gotten 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.120 and it brings a lot out of imagine not knowing 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.440 a language and being put And I've never been away 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.520 from my parents because they've always been close, because I've 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.520 been traveling and so and I'm an only child. I 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.199 didn't have a brother or sister, and all of a sudden, 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:54.080 I have to go to a public kindergarten and I 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.920 remember talking to my mom and Arminia one second looking away, 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.280 my mom's gone, and there's this American lady going, come 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.000 have a seat, and I'm like, uh huh, what does 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.760 that mean? You know, totally not prepared and just having 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.920 the trauma of like being abandoned. That's how I felt 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.160 in kindergarten. I mean most kids probably feel that way 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.800 in the mom's leading like this is a kid that 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.480 is new to the country and new to the language, 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.400 new to the culture, new to the people, new to everything, 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.800 you know. And it was like jumping in an ocean 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.720 not knowing how to swim and go, okay, let me 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.360 start with the doggy paddle, and I think I'm by 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:32.559 six seven, I was doing the breaststroke. Look at me, now, 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:40.920 that's great. How did you like the Armenian genocide? Like, 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.160 how do you think about that? Well, here's what happened 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.800 after that. My parents did some thinking and there was 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:52.000 an Armenian school in Hollywood called alex Peleebo's and it 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.280 was pretty close to where we lived, where I grew up. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:59.400 So they had made some money. They had gotten jobs, 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.000 so they and make some money. So they instead of 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:06.359 putting that money away for a house one day investment. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.440 They invested in me and they put the money into schools. 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.480 It was more than the rent to go to a 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.040 private school, so I did that and it made it easier. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:19.679 The Armenian school reminded me where I come from and 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.000 my culture and my past, and that's where I started 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.600 learning more about the army and genocide. My parents never 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.240 told me about the army and genocide. Got five years old, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.640 you know, and so I'm like, you tell your kid, 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.560 by the way, you know, your people were destroyed less 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:37.160 than seventy years old, you know, ago here and and um, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.440 that's why you don't know. You don't have a family tree, 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.240 you know. I I found out I don't have a 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.880 family tree because they were all destroyed. That's crazy, right, 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.240 So that became a thing that I always wanted to 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.959 tell people about. I just got lucky that I joined 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.559 a band and started a band with three other Armenians, 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.480 and that became a kind of a mission for a second, 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.400 because at the time, no one even knew what an 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:03.640 Armenian was, none less knowing about the genocide, right, but 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.800 it took four guys to talk about it. And yeah, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.680 through the years growing up, every year nine fifteen was 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.000 brought up on every April and every other day around April, 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.400 and then there's the big marches in Hollywood, and that 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.200 was a part of that a lot of times. And 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.800 it made a thing part of my life. You know. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.079 It's like imagine having a past like that and people 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.199 not recognizing that it is. It wasn't just the fact 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.160 that had happened. It was the fact that the world 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.280 didn't recognize it as a genocide, or as a holocaust, 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.440 or as anything they looked at as casualties of the war. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.000 What were can night? Our army wasn't part of the war. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.920 We weren't We weren't fighting anybody. They came and attacked 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.959 us and killed our people at night. They took the 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.760 the scholars and the men, the strong, the priests, the heads, 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:53.079 the politicians, took them and then told the women and 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.079 children were saving you. We're gonna take you away from this. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:02.600 And as they walked, they rape and pillaged and murdered 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.800 and awful things. I don't even talk about it. So 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.800 this lee, learning this at a young age, it's instill 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.199 some craziness in you, right, like, wow, this occurred to 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.040 our people. My great grandma was in there. My great 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.719 grandpa's were in there. That happened to them insane. So 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:21.480 um fast forward the band. It was our when we 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.040 met up. It was something we all had in the 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.400 back of our minds. It's always there, it's always and 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.440 it was like, let's make it more of you know, 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.640 known to people that this happened to our people. Let's 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.400 just talk about it more. We wrote a song about it, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.000 and when they asked about the song, we talked about 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.560 it and then we just kind of it became a thing. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.760 Best reward was on our first tour, we were playing 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:45.120 Texas and we're in RV, so no security people could 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.560 come and knock on the r V door. Here you 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.240 So it was a kid and his dad. Kid was 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.360 I couldn't be older than thirteen or fourteen, and he 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.800 asked us to sign a history report that he wrote 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.840 on the army and genocide and it was because he 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.800 heard it happened. It was not in anywhere Indes textbooks, 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.080 and he learned of it from us from the song pluck, 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.480 and he went and he did research on it, find 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.680 out wrote this thing are a plus on it, and 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.680 his dad was proud of his dad brought him to us. Saying, 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.400 good for you guys to bring my awareness to my son, 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.200 who he would never have learned that if it wasn't 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.240 for you guys. We imagine that we did pictures with 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.960 the dad and it was like, but no amount of 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:28.480 Grammys concluding hell, that's the point. So for me, like, 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.760 the thing that I tap into on my show is 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:36.040 that only through travel are you able to really see 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:39.520 these things, because otherwise it's just in theory. You need 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.280 to go to Armania to feel what they're feelings, or 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.640 else you would know people here out of touch our 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.800 Meanians here don't know what's going on over there. They 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.480 only know what they're seeing on our mean and tell 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.960 on the Armenian channels or what they're reading on. But 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.720 you know, all that's skewed. Everything is skewed, all medious. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.640 How crazy is the news outside of America? He is 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.280 totally different than when I'm there. I finally getting news 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:02.960 around the world. I find out what's happening here. I 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.680 find out what's happening there. People we would never countries 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.920 that we don't talk about in America are talked about 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.400 over there. There exists. There are people in the world 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.840 we only get told about specific countries, or this happening there, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.280 this happened in Irand, this happened in Afghanistan, This happening 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.000 irand just happening. Okay, what about the rest of the world. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.440 There's a lot of ship going on there too. You 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.000 could tell us about that too. I'm not saying don't 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.400 tell us abouty around and Afghanistan. There's a lot more 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.680 news out there that we don't hear about. So I 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:33.840 would love to inspire people to travel, not only to Paris, Italy, China. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.760 I want you to go to places like Armenia, in 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.480 places like Wow, you're right though, that's crazy, but who 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.320 would But it's your life, you know. It's like most 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.680 people when they have the chance to travel there there Okay, 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:49.960 the majority of the world doesn't travel as much as 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:51.720 you do, so they don't get the opportunity or of 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.200 me to do that, because when they get the chance 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.200 to travel, they're like, Oh, we heard of this place 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.360 that's so popular and big, I'm gonna go there. Like 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.400 when I told Jicavo, You're like, I'm not gonna hold 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.760 that again. I get it, because there's so many better 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.359 places to be. What I feel is that travel is 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:11.400 the thing that taps you into humanity. It's such an 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.119 easy way in whether you're in Carbo you can do 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.080 it at the result, or whether you're going to Armania. 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.960 You can go to Carbo and speak to your barista, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.600 the guy who's serving Mexican. You could speak to that 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.520 person and be like, oh wait, his a little way 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:34.240 into the country that I may not get in Carbo 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:38.840 because it's very commercial. Yeah, I mean it was the fireworks, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.880 see what I mean. But I like, I really are 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.520 so right where you're people to travel with more of 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.600 that and speak and learn from people. That's what you're saying. Yeah, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.480 but like I want to go to Armania and speak 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:56.600 to people and understand that experience because it's not on 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:01.280 the tourist hotspots right Like it's but there's the responsibility, 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.119 So let's use effort to do that. It's a gaining 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.920 culture from people, That's what it is. And it's like 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.080 but it's effort. And like I said before, most people 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.040 when they're traveling, they wanna you know, not everyone's thinking 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:13.639 to do that. Okay, So how do we inspire them 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.639 to make a little more by talking about places and 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.200 talking about like what you know and what you've seen 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.520 and that might make someone who's listening be like, Hey, 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:22.800 I want to go see that and do that, and 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.040 you are you're you're doing it by what we're doing 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.639 right now. This is what we're doing. Thanks, that's happening. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.320 We're doing we're doing it right now. Because you can't 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.840 make someone do it, but you can make someone kind 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.960 of envious of you because you can't do it, and 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:37.520 then make me when they got the minute of they 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:39.280 if they have the dollar and they can totally go 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.480 because it takes money and time. That's it. You have 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.199 a little bit extra money, you have a little bit 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.760 extra time, you could do what you what you're saying, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.960 which is so amazing though. I love that. I'm I'm 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.440 gonna be traveling soon, which I'm not gonna I can't 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:56.760 talk about yet, but I'm looking forward to doing that. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.000 I want to play, but I'm also looking forward those days. 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.639 You have to promise me that you will. Okay, are 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.160 you kidding me not? I'll send you to I'll call 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.479 your text you. I want to know a little bit 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.639 about travel with the band a little more. I mean, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.440 you've done how many countries, Like you've traveled everywhere a 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.159 lot I haven't counted how many we've been everywhere. Especially 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.119 in the beginning, we would go to the obscure places, 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.720 like when we went to Greece, we'd go to not 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:27.000 just Athens, we'd go not just to Milan. But we 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.960 hit up smaller regions where maybe the pay wasn't so much, 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.199 but we would still go to get the exposure. Now 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.639 it's more about hitting a mass you know where I 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.280 missed playing the little shows in those little cities instead 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.720 of playing the big ones. Um I remember getting lost 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.000 in Tokyo with my outfit on about to get on stage, 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.520 so I walked downstairs. Um I had just started djaying 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.840 at that time. It was and the club, you know 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.360 how in Tokyo and most of Japan, in the major 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.080 cities like Osaka, because there's no land, so it's built 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.560 like this, right, you know, up and down like a 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.560 mall is like in the building and you go in 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.439 the basement and then you go in like twenty stories up. 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:08.920 And the club was in a building like that, and 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.920 it was like offices a club stores. There was like 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.159 a hi fi shop downstairs that had to roll in 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.480 five oh five. They had it at a lot cheaper 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.439 than America, you know, and I still we hadn't made 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.119 money yet, you know. It was we haven't made a penny. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.359 So I was like, guys, because we had we didn't 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:25.720 have a day off there either, so to play the 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.360 show and go to somewhere else. So I had put 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.720 on my clothes, like my outfit to get on stage. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:32.520 At the time, we wore a lot of makeup and stuff. 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.280 And I went downstairs and I bought it. And I 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.440 remember I had to go because I didn't have my 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.920 passport to get the the duty free right. So I said, Okay, 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.040 I'm gonna go to the hotel it was right down 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:44.679 the street, and gonna get the passport and I'm come 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:47.440 right back. Ran at the hotel, got out of the hotel, 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.119 didn't know this direction to go to, and it all 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.080 looks the same, and here I am. No one knows 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.640 I've left the building. They didn't know. I went back 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.639 to the hotel. And imagine this guy wearing red shirts 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.159 and a white beater, makeup on his face, bald with 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.600 a long go teare walking around the streets to Tokyo 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:07.520 where it's packed, and I'm asking people and everyone's avoiding me. 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.840 It was like Japanese. They're so polite, but they're like 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.440 they're getting the eye contact and then going like this 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.120 and walking away, you know, like help, help. And then 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:21.560 at some point I just sat down. I remember someone 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:25.440 from the club finding me and running me upstairs. That 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.840 wasn't the crazy story, but it's the story that's the 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:30.600 sweet story. Yeah. Well, thanks for spending at a time 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.920 with me in studio. My pleasure. Yeah, thank you for 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:38.280 having me. Let's take a break to hear from our 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:42.119