Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room
Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the
Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco, and now
Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: Today is Tuesday, January seventh, twenty twenty five, and we
Speaker 2: are officially one hundred and seven days away from the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five NFL Draft. As we welcome you to
Speaker 2: the first episode of the Draft Show, presented by Miller Lyte,
Speaker 2: live from the Star in Frisco, Texas and.
Speaker 3: The SWBC studios.
Speaker 2: It is show number one of forty shows over the
Speaker 2: next couple of months to get you ready for the
Speaker 2: NFL Draft. What is going to be a massive hull
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys this year, and we've got a massive
Speaker 2: crew to welcome in, some new.
Speaker 3: Faces, some returning faces.
Speaker 2: I call it the Avengers of draft coverage around Dallas
Speaker 2: Cowboy Media.
Speaker 3: So lots to look forward to. I'm your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: This is my sixth season hosting the Draft Show in
Speaker 2: some capacity. As we go into the draft again, we've
Speaker 2: got Brian brought us. I put on our rundown that
Speaker 2: this is your number one, thy three and twenty one,
Speaker 2: covering the draft for Brian broad Us.
Speaker 3: Good to have you back, Thank you very much. I am.
Speaker 3: I want to say this.
Speaker 4: You're gonna introduce some new cats to this thing. And
Speaker 4: I wonder where the donuts are. Boys, You know what,
Speaker 4: the other Scouts you got to bring the donuts and
Speaker 4: the bagels.
Speaker 3: That's kind of a scouty tradition.
Speaker 4: When you show up at a school, you got to
Speaker 4: bring donuts and bagels here.
Speaker 3: So we got to We've got some learning to do. Exact.
Speaker 5: There's a little bit of room over there.
Speaker 6: I will wrestle everybody up in here to not bring
Speaker 6: no bagels donuts.
Speaker 5: Appreciate you off having it.
Speaker 3: We've got Votch Lombardi joining us.
Speaker 2: Votch, You've you've been creating cowboys content for how long now.
Speaker 5: I've been doing cowboys too long to even count.
Speaker 6: You know what, You've been doing it long enough. Is
Speaker 6: just part of your life. It is what it is.
Speaker 6: But hey, man, playball, coach a little bit of ball.
Speaker 6: But I've been talking crap on YouTube for a loan time.
Speaker 2: Love it, man, Appreciate you off having me. And now
Speaker 2: we get on our airwaves. You expect nothing different by
Speaker 2: the way. I've been a fan of your content since
Speaker 2: we started talking back in twenty twenty about all this
Speaker 2: stuff and just getting you involved with Dallas Cowboys content
Speaker 2: moving forward. They call it the mothership from all the creators.
Speaker 2: I don't classify us as the mother ship. I classify
Speaker 2: us as at least the closest here.
Speaker 3: So now you get some access, you get some opportunity.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be awesome. We're excited to have you.
Speaker 6: They're going to be kicking me out of here and
Speaker 6: call the security let's go out.
Speaker 3: That would be a win in my book.
Speaker 2: We've also got Tommy Yarish his first season with the
Speaker 2: Draft Show as well. Tommy, your background You come from Chicago,
Speaker 2: went to University of Texas, which that'll be an interesting conversation.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of Texas Cats. Yeah, they're in the
Speaker 3: draft this year. What's your background going into the draft?
Speaker 7: Covered every level of football in the state of Texas.
Speaker 8: Spent a lot of time in high school, college at
Speaker 8: the University of Texas, and now with the Cowboys. Just
Speaker 8: wrapped up my first regular season covering the Cowboys beat.
Speaker 8: So super excited to be on the Draft Show. I
Speaker 8: love college football, so this is gonna be a lot
Speaker 8: of fun. And I love breaking down college guys. Like
Speaker 8: you said, there's a lot of Texas guys that that
Speaker 8: could look forward to in Dallas and beyond. Last last
Speaker 8: Texas guy they picked worked out pretty well.
Speaker 3: For Yeah, that weren't pretty good, didn't it, didn't it?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 3: And then we've got this guy. Feels like it's just
Speaker 3: a year ago.
Speaker 2: Today we were talking about your background. You're now a
Speaker 2: seasoned veteran with this draft.
Speaker 10: Yes, so let's move on, Nick Harris. It's going good.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to our telegram.
Speaker 11: Yep, yep. Happy to be back. This is gonna be
Speaker 11: an interesting draft cycle. I think we got a lot
Speaker 11: to talk about even right off the bat. But I'd
Speaker 11: been studying this class a little bit more in depth
Speaker 11: than I think where I was at this point last year.
Speaker 11: Learned and uh, I learned and applied from from my
Speaker 11: process from a year ago. So I got a little
Speaker 11: bit of a head start this year. So I feel
Speaker 11: good about where I'm at. Feel good about where I'm at.
Speaker 3: Oh, So that means we're relying on you pretty quickly here.
Speaker 4: Hey, feel free good is with those last names, all
Speaker 4: the last names.
Speaker 3: And the players we can't pronounce Ole miss Edge.
Speaker 11: Rusher, Uh, princely Umanmulin No way, yeah, no way, Mommy, Yellen,
Speaker 11: I covered the kid.
Speaker 3: Listen, go back and listen to it. Prince Mammy Ellen.
Speaker 5: Promise you to.
Speaker 11: I got to be another one in a couple of years.
Speaker 11: Out of what did he end up, princevill his oldle
Speaker 11: brother Nebraska. He ended up Now he transferred end up
Speaker 11: Ole miss Ole Miss Okay, So yeah, there's gonna be
Speaker 11: more together at Ole miss Well.
Speaker 10: Now he just out there.
Speaker 3: He got it, Okay, got it, got it.
Speaker 2: Well, We've got a lot to look forward to, new faces,
Speaker 2: returning members. We're excited. We'll also join U, Zach Wilchuck,
Speaker 2: Bobby Belt. They'll join the show as well starting on Thursday.
Speaker 2: So we'll have a rotation of everybody moving through. So
Speaker 2: don't worry, you'll get to hear from those guys very soon.
Speaker 2: I want to start with positions of need. What did
Speaker 2: we learn from this twenty twenty four season around the
Speaker 2: Cowboys specifically. I know we're going to talk a lot
Speaker 2: of prospects. This isn't just a Cowboys draft show. But
Speaker 2: with all the concern across the hall and all the
Speaker 2: intrigue going on between the coaching staff and the front
Speaker 2: off and what's going to happen over these next few weeks. Nick,
Speaker 2: I'll start with you in terms of the Cowboys. What
Speaker 2: direction are we headed in terms of this draft?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's really dependent on what shakes out
Speaker 11: over the next couple of weeks too. There's a lot
Speaker 11: of decisions that have to be made up front before
Speaker 11: we can really get or before this front office can
Speaker 11: really get into the nitty gritty of position needs and
Speaker 11: things of that nature. Because you have Will McLay on
Speaker 11: an expiring contract, you have a scouting department that is
Speaker 11: mostly on an expiring contract. All of the coaches on
Speaker 11: this coaching staff are in limbo at the moment, trying
Speaker 11: to await their fate. So you know, certain coaches prioritize
Speaker 11: different positions and different skill sets. So what exactly this
Speaker 11: staff looks like from a coaching perspective and from a
Speaker 11: front office and scouting perspective could look a lot different
Speaker 11: on February first.
Speaker 10: And it did on January first.
Speaker 11: So, but I mean, if we're looking at it from
Speaker 11: a holistic view, holistic lens and trying to understand, Hey,
Speaker 11: you know, this is a roster need. You could look
Speaker 11: at almost every position and you can make a case
Speaker 11: that there's some need there. You look at the free
Speaker 11: agents that are partying out of the door. You know,
Speaker 11: I think last year we had a pretty good case
Speaker 11: to say, hey, they don't need a quarterback, they don't
Speaker 11: need a tight end, but everything else you can pretty
Speaker 11: much make a case for. And they went out and
Speaker 11: they added they added some help at almost every position
Speaker 11: other than safety, if I can think off the top
Speaker 11: of my head. But this time around, I feel like
Speaker 11: they need to use these ten eleven picks depending on
Speaker 11: how many they get, to really address every position on
Speaker 11: both sides the ball.
Speaker 2: Brian, You've been around coaching changes and levels like this,
Speaker 2: going in the.
Speaker 3: Reason why we had a coach and change a couple of.
Speaker 2: Times, going into just an off season of uncertainty whenever
Speaker 2: it comes to an NFL franchise. How much does that
Speaker 2: hinder or how much does that help a draft process
Speaker 2: when you go into it.
Speaker 4: Continuity is the scout's best friend. You look at organizations
Speaker 4: like the Pittsburgh Steelers and others that have had their
Speaker 4: coaches in place for long periods of time. As a scout,
Speaker 4: when your advantages you have is when you do have
Speaker 4: that continuity, you're able to go out and scout players
Speaker 4: that your coaches want. When you have change, that then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden and Vach and I do a
Speaker 4: show together and we talk about this one night that
Speaker 4: they that when you have this change and then you
Speaker 4: have a new staff come in, maybe some players you
Speaker 4: didn't particularly think fit. Now you know your your current club.
Speaker 4: Now you're having to go back and look. So you're
Speaker 4: really kind of doing double the work. And you know,
Speaker 4: maybe in your mind you're thinking, Okay, we've got coaches
Speaker 4: on one year deals, we could have a change.
Speaker 3: I need to be.
Speaker 4: Aware because some guys you'll just naturally eliminate because hey,
Speaker 4: he's not a fit. You know, the hight weight speed
Speaker 4: parameters are not correct here.
Speaker 3: So you move on from guys.
Speaker 4: You get a new staff in here, man that that
Speaker 4: kount of changes they come in. They want a totally
Speaker 4: different type of player. And that's why you see some
Speaker 4: of these teams sometimes with you look at their team
Speaker 4: when they're out there on the field.
Speaker 3: They look mismatched.
Speaker 4: You know, some of the teams that have continuity, their
Speaker 4: team looks really the same physically, you get a team
Speaker 4: that has a lot of turnover. Sometimes your players look
Speaker 4: up and down that way, so it uh that uh,
Speaker 4: not having that continuity, it really really hurts your scouty apartment.
Speaker 2: And of course the Cowboys have gone through that in
Speaker 2: a minor way. The last couple of years changes offensively.
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn had his guy, had his guys that he liked,
Speaker 2: and then you get Mike Zimmer that comes in here
Speaker 2: says even at the end of the regular season, Man,
Speaker 2: I wish it would have done in my way, she said, Sean, right,
Speaker 2: get out of here. That was very quick kid training
Speaker 2: camp that didn't last very long.
Speaker 3: But watch I know you've kept an eye on this team.
Speaker 2: Watch a lot of film, sir, where do they start?
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6: We have stars and y'all can hear me say this
Speaker 6: a bunch, but we need role players. Everybody said with me,
Speaker 6: we need roll players. Okay, so think about this, right,
Speaker 6: We've been waiting, man, when are we gonna use Turp
Speaker 6: And when we're gonna you know, create his role right,
Speaker 6: And we eventually got to it, but we need seven
Speaker 6: more of those guys where hey, we're in this situation
Speaker 6: deployed that that do this, do this right. We need
Speaker 6: more of that. You know, we have a Micah, but
Speaker 6: Micah needs a running mate. We have a Lamb, but okay,
Speaker 6: you're just gonna trip and double and bracket them all day.
Speaker 6: Let's get somebody over here that could take pressure off
Speaker 6: off of that guy. So it's not just one thing
Speaker 6: that we're looking for, and online they'll say, oh, we
Speaker 6: need all things. I think what we're gonna have to
Speaker 6: you know, just breaking down film. We're just gonna have
Speaker 6: to figure out, Okay, what's important to us. We may
Speaker 6: be looking at Okay, cool Malacho Starks, he's available for us.
Speaker 6: Can I live without you know, one tech? Can I
Speaker 6: live without three tech? Can I live without wide receiver?
Speaker 5: Two? Running back?
Speaker 6: We're gonna be saying bad things about Ashton en Ze, right,
Speaker 6: Ashton Jense is fantastic, But somebody's gonna say running back's
Speaker 6: not important. Right now, we need to build D line.
Speaker 6: We don't know what we're doing with our last two
Speaker 6: first round picks. So hey man, role players, role players.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Tony?
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I think watching hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 8: This team has their core right. The entire message we've
Speaker 8: gotten from the front office has been we want Dak Prescott,
Speaker 8: Cedey Lamb and Michael Parsons. There's your cornerstones of the franchise. Well,
Speaker 8: you got to surround them with something because you can
Speaker 8: you can't rely on three people in a twenty two
Speaker 8: man game. So I think that you know, Nick made
Speaker 8: a good point in the sense that this year's class
Speaker 8: and how dallasted approach it is. Man, they're gonna need
Speaker 8: help in a lot of spots. I mean I put
Speaker 8: down defensive line, wide receiver, corner, offensive line. I think
Speaker 8: you've got an argument, safety, running back, everything. So really yeah, everything,
Speaker 8: and it's going to be a lot of I think
Speaker 8: best player available.
Speaker 10: Pay anybody else.
Speaker 11: Exactly, you really need role players and.
Speaker 8: You're tight on money, and there are guys that they
Speaker 8: want to bring back that they're going to have to pay.
Speaker 8: If you decide to bring back a Jordan Lewis, if
Speaker 8: you decide to bring back also Diggi Zoo, if you
Speaker 8: decide to extend Mica Parsons this offseason.
Speaker 7: So that's why this class is extremely important, and you
Speaker 7: got to be versatile on where you spend your picks.
Speaker 6: Also, to one more thing, let's not walk past. What
Speaker 6: Nick and what Brown was saying to coaching is going
Speaker 6: to super super matter here, like you know, we can
Speaker 6: be okay, let's just look at offensive line. Let's just
Speaker 6: look at guards. Are we going to be doing wide zone?
Speaker 6: Are we going to be pushing guys around? Like just
Speaker 6: that conversation is the difference between Tyler Booker or like
Speaker 6: Marcus about right, are you trying to re people? Are
Speaker 6: you trying to push guys that way to? You know,
Speaker 6: so we have to figure out who this coach is
Speaker 6: to have and you know, hey, I ain't gonna say
Speaker 6: nothing about nobody that owns this team in their building,
Speaker 6: but let's figure that out right now so that we
Speaker 6: can have a feel for what this team could look like,
Speaker 6: so wee can start evaluate play.
Speaker 3: See we're one segment into this show.
Speaker 2: That was what we spent the whole morning talking about,
Speaker 2: talking on talking cowboy.
Speaker 3: Let's get this thing done.
Speaker 2: So that way we know what direction this team is
Speaker 2: headed right now, where you're going one way or the other.
Speaker 3: You either keep them or you don't.
Speaker 2: But let's make a decision so that way, no one's
Speaker 2: guessing at this point, because right now there's a lot
Speaker 2: of guessing going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, only one man and a few
Speaker 4: others know really what what the direction is going to be,
Speaker 4: and hopefully it's sooner than later. But you know, when
Speaker 4: you work in this organization, you understand that later tends
Speaker 4: to win the day.
Speaker 3: So you've got to be able to adjust and adapt.
Speaker 4: And you know that's what Will McClay and this staff
Speaker 4: is going to have to do. But they've got a
Speaker 4: big job ahead of him. I will say this though,
Speaker 4: about this football team. When they are able to select
Speaker 4: the best player on their board, they win a lot
Speaker 4: of days. Yes they do, right, They win the day
Speaker 4: when they when they're able to do that.
Speaker 3: So hopefully, uh, you know, much.
Speaker 4: Like everybody's talked about here, there's so many areas and
Speaker 4: so many directions this thing could go that. You know,
Speaker 4: you feel like sometimes you're you focus in on something
Speaker 4: and maybe that player goes and you feel like you
Speaker 4: got wiped out there here.
Speaker 3: If somebody goes.
Speaker 4: Ahead of you in those picks, you could at least
Speaker 4: feel good that you're you know what, we we're going
Speaker 4: to have our stack.
Speaker 3: Those are names.
Speaker 4: One of those guys is going to be a Dallas cowboy,
Speaker 4: and most likely that guy's going to come in and
Speaker 4: help your football team.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the odds were for Malachi Starks, defensive
Speaker 2: back out of Georgia to be the first name mentioned
Speaker 2: on the Draft show in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: It's interesting.
Speaker 2: I thought it would be as I thought it would
Speaker 2: be ashtingenty from Boise State.
Speaker 10: But the first thing that we mentioned last last year
Speaker 10: on the Draft show was.
Speaker 2: It was all right, so heyah, well bult right now
Speaker 2: there it is.
Speaker 3: Why was that the first name that came to mind.
Speaker 6: I've just been I'm heavy into you know, Twitter, X
Speaker 6: streets or whatever, and I just see some of the
Speaker 6: names slowing around. We're not going to have a whole
Speaker 6: bunch of first round great here guys. I got it
Speaker 6: left Brown may have thirteen, You may have ten, fifth whatever,
Speaker 6: and Malakai is one of them. And just because you know,
Speaker 6: the Cowboys kind of won some games towards the end
Speaker 6: of the season, there's this short group of guys that's
Speaker 6: in between eight and like twelve. So I think Malachi
Speaker 6: is in their group. But we can hope that one
Speaker 6: of those other guys kind of fall down to us.
Speaker 6: We're gonna have conversations like this the whole draft season,
Speaker 6: trading up, trading back, and all this kind of little stuff.
Speaker 6: But Malachi just popped up in my head because free safety. Honestly,
Speaker 6: I think there are luxuries and it's stuff that you need. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we need to figure out d line. We're not that
Speaker 6: figured out there. We need wide receiver to run it back.
Speaker 6: But I think free safety is a luxury. So if
Speaker 6: we're on the board and Malachi is there, he may
Speaker 6: be the best player. You're gonna have to ask yourself.
Speaker 6: Do I go with this kind of need there this luxury,
Speaker 6: or do we go like, let's build the base of
Speaker 6: this thing.
Speaker 5: I just think he's a polarizing player in that way.
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting you brought up the first round
Speaker 2: grades already.
Speaker 3: It's so early on.
Speaker 2: But I had a conversation with a scout last week.
Speaker 2: He said the same thing. He said, this is gonna
Speaker 2: be a low first round grade. Yeah, draft class. That's
Speaker 2: the feel is from a league wide standpoint, probably ten
Speaker 2: to twelve. Luckily the Cowboys haven't mentioned it yet. They
Speaker 2: are picking number twelve in the NFL draft. This year,
Speaker 2: they lost that final game win from well would have
Speaker 2: been seventeen down to twelve. It helps you possibly hit
Speaker 2: one of those first round graded guys, But does that
Speaker 2: change the way you scout, Brian when you go into
Speaker 2: a draft with the mindset of, hey, there's only going
Speaker 2: to be a dozen guys with first round grades.
Speaker 4: Now I think that you know, you just set your board,
Speaker 4: you know, you look at your players, you set your board,
Speaker 4: and then whatever that number. You know, we've we're going
Speaker 4: to get into this hot and heavy about these offensive tackles,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean it. It is not going to
Speaker 4: be like we've had in the past where we've had
Speaker 4: discussions about plug and play, plug and play plugging with
Speaker 4: there are a lot of questions about these guys. You're
Speaker 4: going to start to ask about the strengths of the
Speaker 4: of the position groups and where this thing's going to fall.
Speaker 4: So whether that number is, whether that numbers twelve or
Speaker 4: twenty two, you're going to just do the same things
Speaker 4: that you normally do as far as gets your board prepped.
Speaker 2: How much do you feel like the current state of
Speaker 2: collegiate athletics plays a fact into that nil transfer portal?
Speaker 11: Yeah, you have a lot of kids Covidien thing year Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 11: the nine year at.
Speaker 3: The kid Now everybody that's jo is going to be
Speaker 3: here for eleven years.
Speaker 11: I mean we're going to talk about if we're talking
Speaker 11: about the quarterback position, I think that's the easiest one
Speaker 11: to to talk about. When it comes to experience, we'll
Speaker 11: talk about guys like Dylan Gabriel who's got a ton
Speaker 11: of experience, Kyle McCord who's had a ton of experience.
Speaker 11: But you can look on the offensive line as well
Speaker 11: and see a ton of experience. And these kids are
Speaker 11: incentivized to go back to school. If they have like
Speaker 11: a fourth fifth round grade and coming out of their
Speaker 11: junior year, or if they have an extra year with
Speaker 11: the COVID year, their incentivised to go back to school
Speaker 11: because they can make money. It's like, okay, then I
Speaker 11: can get my stock back up to the second round.
Speaker 11: You look at a guy like ariont Urseri, the offensive
Speaker 11: tackle out of Minnesota. This is not a guy we've
Speaker 11: been talking about in the first round last year. So
Speaker 11: this is a good good That's it's gonna be an
Speaker 11: interesting conversation as well.
Speaker 4: But I think I think the group and a whole
Speaker 4: as a whole, and I'm looking forward to hearing your
Speaker 4: guys thought because you know, watch and I were talking
Speaker 4: about this on our show. We you know, it's like, man,
Speaker 4: why is this group? Why am I struggling with this
Speaker 4: group right now? Why am I thinking I'm looking at
Speaker 4: a bunch of guards. Why am I thinking I'm Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's fair. That's that's the you know, there's not that
Speaker 4: sure fire, that boom. I'm gonna put my put my
Speaker 4: name on this guy because I think there's gonna be
Speaker 4: I think there's several positions that have some some kind
Speaker 4: of question marks that we when we break it all down.
Speaker 2: Let's break it down in our next segment, let's talk
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Speaker 2: to before we get into this twenty twenty five class.
Speaker 2: What's the ultimate goal for the Cowboys and every other
Speaker 2: team that's drafting this year? You want to win a trophy? Right,
Speaker 2: Not just any trophy. You want to win the what
Speaker 2: watch the trophy? The Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 6: It's your last name, dude, It's a last name, the
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Speaker 5: Try to get you to bring that up.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just thought it was funny. It
Speaker 3: is kind of heavy. We need to polish this one.
Speaker 3: This one's a little messed up.
Speaker 6: But the Vasce Lombardi Trophy, Hello Lombardi Trophy, right one.
Speaker 2: I thought it would be fitting have it in the
Speaker 2: room when Votch is here for the first time, Kyles
Speaker 2: A gentleman.
Speaker 3: I know it's and like I said, it needs a
Speaker 3: little polish here. It's been been a long time, all right.
Speaker 3: What is this draft class going to be known for.
Speaker 2: Let's take a look around position groups, weakest, strongest. I'll
Speaker 2: start with the strongest. Where do you feel like teams
Speaker 2: are going to have the most success? Brian, when it
Speaker 2: comes to the twenty twenty five draft class.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of got it caught between two. I kind
Speaker 4: of feel like I'm looking at right now. This edge
Speaker 4: group has got some interesting characters to it. The running
Speaker 4: back room has got some interesting guys to it when
Speaker 4: you look at it. But I don't know, in a
Speaker 4: long time have we seen this many one technique defensive tackles,
Speaker 4: you know, And so to me, I feel like that
Speaker 4: if there's some people that are interested in grabbing those
Speaker 4: three hundred and twenty pounds one techniques that have athletic ability,
Speaker 4: that play up field, that are disruptive, I haven't seen
Speaker 4: this group in a long time, but here we are.
Speaker 4: So if you're one of those teams that's struggling not
Speaker 4: only to defend the run, but a lot of these
Speaker 4: guys have the ability to push the pocket and get
Speaker 4: some pressure in the passing game as well. I kind
Speaker 4: of feel like that that's something that that that teams.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know Mason Graham from Michigan right off
Speaker 4: the jump, I mean, he's going to go very very
Speaker 4: early in this draft, and I'll tell you what, I
Speaker 4: think whoever drafts him is going to get a hell
Speaker 4: of a football player out of him. So, yeah, I
Speaker 4: look at that that that kind of the group has
Speaker 4: got me excited because I know that's something that Dallas
Speaker 4: is kind of looking at themselves.
Speaker 3: Tommy, you like those defensive tackles.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Brian stole it right from me. This defensive tackle
Speaker 8: class is one that I like a lot. That you
Speaker 8: mentioned Mason Graham from Michigan. His counterpart Kenneth Grant too,
Speaker 8: really good player, six and thirty nine pounds and boy,
Speaker 8: he plays like he's two hundred and fifty pounds. Sure
Speaker 8: know that he's able to move around really well. I'm
Speaker 8: a big fan of Walter Nolan at an old miss,
Speaker 8: more of an athletic guy, but still a big plugger
Speaker 8: up in them and he can do a lot of
Speaker 8: things for He was the number one player in his
Speaker 8: high school class, number one recruit, so he's been great
Speaker 8: across the board both at Texas A and m and Ole, Miss.
Speaker 8: And then you've got your other guys like Deon Walker,
Speaker 8: who was talked about a lot early on as a
Speaker 8: first round guy.
Speaker 7: Stick I think he can still be that.
Speaker 8: I think there's some things you want to mix mix
Speaker 8: in there, but six three hundred and forty five pounds,
Speaker 8: there's a lot that you can work with with with
Speaker 8: that frame. And then t J Sanders too at South
Speaker 8: Carolina six four and ninety pounds. I like his game
Speaker 8: a lot, so defensive tackles, but running backs down too.
Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of value in that running
Speaker 8: back class, which is something that maybe the Cowboys could
Speaker 8: have explored last year. We'll see if they learned their
Speaker 8: lesson this time around.
Speaker 6: Boy Kyle, I can just hear all the Cowboy fans
Speaker 6: right now. Not another Michigan, all this Michigan stuff going on.
Speaker 3: Listen, defensive lineman from Michigan.
Speaker 6: Chill out, y'all. Look, so you could you could have
Speaker 6: Taco and Mines. You could have that, but you could
Speaker 6: have Aden Hutchson and you could have Rashan Gary Wake Martindale,
Speaker 6: got these dudes playing different man. These dudes get up field,
Speaker 6: these dudes slamm fronts. These dudes get up they they whoop.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I say they, but they whoop
Speaker 6: as they whooped as people fan. Look, so when we
Speaker 6: talk about Mason Graham, we're probably not gonna drive Mason Graham.
Speaker 6: But Kenny Grant is a guy that I like a
Speaker 6: whole bunchet. And normally, this is how I typically feel
Speaker 6: about one tech is they're either going to be like
Speaker 6: a top ten sort of guy or they're.
Speaker 5: Gonna go into seventh round or something like.
Speaker 6: This year particularly, I got a lot of dudes that's
Speaker 6: right in the second and they all get a feel
Speaker 6: and they all run fast, they all got motors. So
Speaker 6: just to mention a guy that we didn't mention, Derek
Speaker 6: Harmon from Oregon, not Defense Time from Oregon. He's going
Speaker 6: to be a guy that's in that conversation. And if
Speaker 6: you're the Cowboys, you may need one or two defensive
Speaker 6: tackles and some of these one texts can play three because.
Speaker 5: They get a feel like that. So there's a lot
Speaker 5: of options, a lot of options.
Speaker 11: Yeah, early early contender for name of the class is
Speaker 11: a defensive tackle tnka, hemingway.
Speaker 5: At all soon No Tonka big Tnka.
Speaker 11: So I'm gonna talk about this edge class in this
Speaker 11: running back class. I'm with you, I'm with the table
Speaker 11: on those two positions probably having some more value on
Speaker 11: day three. You can look up top of the edge group.
Speaker 11: I mean, you look at James Pierce Jr. In the
Speaker 11: year he's had. It's been up and down at times,
Speaker 11: but I still think he has a lot of trades
Speaker 11: there that you can work with. Abduel Carter and there's
Speaker 11: no question he's edged one in this class. You look
Speaker 11: at uh, the the training regimen that he put he
Speaker 11: put in over the off season and Happy Valley, how
Speaker 11: it's applied to the field here in his senior year.
Speaker 11: He still got a couple of games to go if
Speaker 11: if health permits UH for Penn State, but super solid.
Speaker 11: You look at this Ohio State duo of Jack Jack
Speaker 11: Sawyer and J. T. Tomlo. Those are two guys as
Speaker 11: well who are talking about for top recruit. Yeah to
Speaker 11: A Molow, that's good, uh talking about top recruits that
Speaker 11: have really panned out for Ohio State and touim Molo. Wow,
Speaker 11: this is a guy we talked about last year potentially
Speaker 11: coming out and I was surprised he went back for
Speaker 11: another year. I think it worked out for him. You're
Speaker 11: talking about second round value. I think you can find
Speaker 11: some second round value in a lot of these edges.
Speaker 11: You look at Umami Ellen to Molo.
Speaker 5: He's showing off.
Speaker 15: I wasn't trying.
Speaker 5: I say an easy name, Donovania Boston.
Speaker 3: He's yeah, led.
Speaker 11: The fbs and sacks during the regular season out of
Speaker 11: Boston College. Now he's got some physical traits that are
Speaker 11: probably a little bit limited, but I think you look
Speaker 11: at his motor, you look at his blue bag.
Speaker 10: He can get around there in a hurry. And then
Speaker 10: Danny Dinnist Sutton.
Speaker 11: That's a guy on day three out of Penn State
Speaker 11: that I've really loved his entire career, known him since
Speaker 11: his middle high school years, and I think he has
Speaker 11: a lot of traits that you can work with. But
Speaker 11: this running back conversation, it's gonna be one we talked
Speaker 11: about on almost every show, just because Ashton gents, you
Speaker 11: could probably give it about a sixty five percent chance
Speaker 11: that he's gonna be there at number twelve, and there's
Speaker 11: gonna have to be a conversation had about Ashton Genzy.
Speaker 11: Do you go ahead and you go grab the guy
Speaker 11: who finished number two in Heisman voting made it one
Speaker 11: of the closer Heisman races against Travis.
Speaker 5: Hunter in recent memory. Do you go grab that guy?
Speaker 11: I am on the table of saying no, only because
Speaker 11: of how deep this running back class is. You can
Speaker 11: go get a guy on day three that can work
Speaker 11: out for you. You look at potential day three names.
Speaker 11: You look at Jordan James out of Oregon. I really
Speaker 11: love what he's been putting together. Didn't play in the
Speaker 11: Rose Ball a whole lot, and you saw the offense
Speaker 11: for as a result. DJ Giddens out of Kansas State.
Speaker 11: Now I think he's going to sleep sneak into day two.
Speaker 11: That's a guy you have to love. As far as
Speaker 11: late route, late round value. R. J. Harvey U c F.
Speaker 10: I think this is gonna be one of the bigger
Speaker 10: sleepers at the position as we.
Speaker 4: Move on Singer Bowl guy too is okay? Nick, I'll
Speaker 4: challenge you on this one on genty. Is he going
Speaker 4: to be your best player on your board when you
Speaker 4: pick a twelve p Probably?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: And so are you?
Speaker 4: So then there's nobody else that you would take over
Speaker 4: him then right if you if the way you would
Speaker 4: stack it would he I.
Speaker 5: Haven't stacked guys.
Speaker 3: I know, I know you haven't, but.
Speaker 4: It's like it's I don't I know at first show,
Speaker 4: I'm asking you this question because again i'm seeing you know,
Speaker 4: you make you make a point, and there's a lot
Speaker 4: of people that they're saying of talking about the depth,
Speaker 4: I'm kind of curious of what direction you would go
Speaker 4: instead of maybe taking genty if he was the best
Speaker 4: player on your.
Speaker 3: Board, Yeah, you would pull the parachute out.
Speaker 11: Why not pick up some more day two value, and
Speaker 11: especially if if you if you feel out at twelve,
Speaker 11: you only have one or two first round guys left
Speaker 11: and it's Gent's might be your only first round grade left.
Speaker 11: Let's throw that out for a hypothetical parachute back, because
Speaker 11: you're gonna get a running back on day three. There's
Speaker 11: not a lot of value in a lot of these positions.
Speaker 11: On Day three, talking to scouts around the league, they
Speaker 11: do not feel great about round six, round seven, even
Speaker 11: the back in the round five.
Speaker 3: So you know, get okay.
Speaker 4: Okay, first couple of days you bring up something interesting,
Speaker 4: then I don't mean to pivot on this, but but
Speaker 4: the six and the sevens? Do you now throw those
Speaker 4: in on deals? Do you think you can? You could
Speaker 4: throw those deals to move up? You know that's instead
Speaker 4: of thinking about from twelve? Yeah, well move up? Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you don't feel like that, if scouts around the league,
Speaker 4: and I am and talk to my gang of seven
Speaker 4: about this myself, but you know you're ahead of me
Speaker 4: on that. But I wonder if you know, you take
Speaker 4: those six and sevens and throw them on deals and
Speaker 4: try and move up instead of like, instead of trading back,
Speaker 4: think about now going up? If you don't wipe the
Speaker 4: depth of the of this draft.
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see because, like you said, if Genty
Speaker 2: is the guy there, it's going to be a tantalizing
Speaker 2: conversation for the front office, for whoever is Yeah, I
Speaker 2: say I'm trying to show off now, but for the
Speaker 2: front office, for the coaching staff, whicheveryone is here.
Speaker 3: You had Rico Dowdell.
Speaker 2: I think bringing Rico Dawdell back is a possibility, but
Speaker 2: it's not a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 3: What do y'all pick?
Speaker 10: Two years eight million?
Speaker 5: The one man? I don't know you think Yeah, he'll
Speaker 5: want more than that.
Speaker 10: I don't know what his value are.
Speaker 3: I don't know what his value would say more than that.
Speaker 11: I'm just that's gonna be a very interesting conversation as
Speaker 11: far as for agency goes. Because they cannot bring Rico
Speaker 11: Dawdle back, then they're in a pitch at running back.
Speaker 2: For sure, and to play Devil's advocate. They've had that
Speaker 2: same mindset in terms of running back the last couple
Speaker 2: of years. Oh, we're gonna get one on Day two,
Speaker 2: We're gonna get one on Day three, early day three,
Speaker 2: and it just hasn't happened. The one pick that you
Speaker 2: ended up using was Deuce Vaughan in the sixth round
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. You've gone into this draft thinking, oh,
Speaker 2: Zach Charbonay will be there in the third round and
Speaker 2: they weren't able to get him. Oh, you'll think about
Speaker 2: these guys uh Johnson from UH Texas a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago. They really liked him going into the second
Speaker 2: or the third round, didn't end up getting him. You
Speaker 2: go into it thinking, Okay, this is a deep draft
Speaker 2: class of running backs, but then a run happens before
Speaker 2: you and you're kind of hamstrung from that point forward.
Speaker 2: Can you afford to do that again when the only
Speaker 2: running back under contract right now going into twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five is Douce fun.
Speaker 11: I think whenever you look at the positional strengths in
Speaker 11: this draft, I don't think you're going to have a
Speaker 11: draft like you did in twenty eighteen, or seven of
Speaker 11: them go in the first two rounds. I think you're
Speaker 11: going to have more so a draft from twenty seventeen
Speaker 11: where you get thirty of them go in seven rounds
Speaker 11: and there's a ton on Day three just because you
Speaker 11: look at you look at the value. If you're a
Speaker 11: team out there and you're like, okay, this is a
Speaker 11: conversation I'm having with Cowboys right here. Hey, I'm sitting
Speaker 11: here picking at fifty eight in the second round. Yeah,
Speaker 11: we need a running back, and yeah, you know, we
Speaker 11: have a couple of guys there that we really like.
Speaker 11: But if we don't get this edge right now or
Speaker 11: not just a bad example, we don't get this receiver
Speaker 11: right now because I don't have this receiver class for
Speaker 11: Streppo's on the board, say you got to grab that
Speaker 11: guy because you're not going to get a talented receiver
Speaker 11: on day three, Miami by looking at the board, So
Speaker 11: I think, yes, Miami, and now y'all gotta get on me.
Speaker 11: But I think I think that's probably the conversation that
Speaker 11: a lot of teams are gonna be having when it
Speaker 11: comes to these running backs. So you're gonna see that
Speaker 11: run on day three and it's gonna go for a while,
Speaker 11: kind of like what we saw last year in Round four,
Speaker 11: but I think it's gonna go even further than that.
Speaker 6: But see, Kyle, to Brian's point, right, what if Genty
Speaker 6: is there and we're looking at the phone and every
Speaker 6: thing ain't ringing, it's just not and we can't move back,
Speaker 6: do you really move away from that guy? Or do
Speaker 6: you draft somebody that you just not feeling like you feel? Gents,
Speaker 6: Because there's two players and we were just talking about Edges,
Speaker 6: there's two players that's on this board right around that time.
Speaker 6: I've been looking at a lot of mock drafts and
Speaker 6: I would rather take Genty over a MIKEL. Williams from Georgia.
Speaker 6: So I feel really good about Gensy, I feel maybe
Speaker 6: about Williams. You see what I'm saying, So you.
Speaker 2: See gent is foregone conclusion I think he's the better dude.
Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna ask Nick. I go, if
Speaker 4: we're trained back, who who is settled? You give me
Speaker 4: a position and you have to.
Speaker 3: Give me a name. But how far back do we
Speaker 3: need to go?
Speaker 4: I mean, like you know, watch and I again doing
Speaker 4: our show last night, we talked about moving back and
Speaker 4: we were kind of in that fifteen.
Speaker 3: We were trying to look for teams with multiple picks.
Speaker 3: I think we came up with the Rams or you know,
Speaker 3: and Rams are aggressive team.
Speaker 4: But you know you're trying to find teams with I'm
Speaker 4: not interested in your twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: Is I need picks?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Is what I need? So I wonder if you to me.
Speaker 4: I just had this gut that gent is going to
Speaker 4: be the cleanest player too that you deal with now.
Speaker 4: The number of carries and all that is a concern.
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, I'm not throwing that out the window.
Speaker 4: But man, I mean you start to talk about the character,
Speaker 4: the player, the ability, all these things.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm training away from that. For where am I going?
Speaker 3: What am I? Okay? Now I'm picking up with a
Speaker 3: player with ability.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, he's not healthy, you know, maybe you're
Speaker 4: looking at Revel the corner from East Carolina, or maybe Simmons,
Speaker 4: the oppositive guys out for the Yeah, you guys deal
Speaker 4: with knee surgeries and stuff like that. If doctor Cooper
Speaker 4: tells me, hey, go we got clean, we're good, let's
Speaker 4: do this. But still there's you know, I'm trading away
Speaker 4: from maybe the surefire guy to maybe I'm trading in
Speaker 4: for question marks, just to pick up a couple of picks.
Speaker 3: Yeah? Does that? Does that make sense?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 10: It makes sense.
Speaker 5: It just depends what the value looks like.
Speaker 11: I think an ad deal like that because you can
Speaker 11: get a guy like a Jalen Walker, or you can
Speaker 11: get a guy like from where from Georgia?
Speaker 10: Linebacker from Georgia.
Speaker 3: He's a good player.
Speaker 4: No, Okay, if you tell me you're going back, and
Speaker 4: you go back and you end up with some guy
Speaker 4: like Walker and stuff like that, I'm totally cool on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm totally cool enough.
Speaker 4: If you go back and heck, I'm all about picking
Speaker 4: Baron from Texas, you know, Yeah, I mean I'm all
Speaker 4: about that too. If you tell me that's what we're
Speaker 4: going back for, let's not. But I think the further
Speaker 4: back you go in this draft in the first round,
Speaker 4: especially the more questions you're probably.
Speaker 3: Gonna have about these players. I think it's a situation
Speaker 3: I'm trying to limit my mistake. Sure, understand that completely.
Speaker 11: And it depends what that board looks like whenever you
Speaker 11: get to twelve as well, because I you look at
Speaker 11: I sense from last year whenever we were we were
Speaker 11: expecting at twenty four you're gonna have multiple options there.
Speaker 11: You're probably gonna have a good chance to parachute back.
Speaker 11: I think now it's probably just there will be a
Speaker 11: chance you could parashoot back.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's as.
Speaker 3: Good as the best damn corner was on the board
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 4: I felt like, you know, Bram Barton was still there too.
Speaker 4: I mean, you had some guys Arnold the Lions. It took,
Speaker 4: you know, so.
Speaker 3: He played pretty well, didn't.
Speaker 2: With all that being said, you mentioned wide receiver. I know, Tommy,
Speaker 2: you had brought this up to wide receiver. Maybe not
Speaker 2: the same level of class we've seen over the last
Speaker 2: few years where you're gonna go deep into the third
Speaker 2: and you're gonna get all these wide receivers.
Speaker 3: It's a need for Dallas wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Too, is a significant need for the Cowboys if they're
Speaker 2: trading out in their parachuting. How far can you go
Speaker 2: and still be confident you're drafting your wide receiver too.
Speaker 8: I don't think very far. I think this is a
Speaker 8: very thin wide receiver class. If you had your pick
Speaker 8: of wide receivers, that would be better for Dallas. I
Speaker 8: think Tataroa McMillan from Arizona's probably your guy.
Speaker 7: He's a six five, two hundred.
Speaker 3: And twelve wide receiver one right now, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 7: He's my wide receiver one. Just uber athlete. I mean,
Speaker 7: what he's able to do with his size is phenomenal.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't necessarily say he's an elite fifty to fifty
Speaker 8: ball guy, but his traits can make him more. I
Speaker 8: think he jumps out of the building.
Speaker 3: So so the room real quick. The room then has
Speaker 3: Hunter all playing corner? Yes, yeah, Hunter, Hunter, Hunter corner corner.
Speaker 3: You're still playing him two ways.
Speaker 10: I think there's going to be an opportunity for him.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm trying to think of right, I think
Speaker 4: we're right about wide receiver one. If Hunter is not,
Speaker 4: ifuns primarily a corner okay, then if that's the case,
Speaker 4: then McMillan is.
Speaker 3: Wou wide receiver one for you.
Speaker 4: You know what, there's a there is a I think
Speaker 4: there's an argument that I would make to try and
Speaker 4: make him wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Wow, I think I would.
Speaker 4: I think to me the way, Yeah, the teams could
Speaker 4: probably go away from him if he plays corner.
Speaker 3: Now does that help you in the the game? Yeah?
Speaker 3: It helps.
Speaker 4: But what if you have a guy on the other
Speaker 4: side of the field, one of the seven cornerbacks you
Speaker 4: use this year, opposite Bland.
Speaker 3: You know that kind of thing.
Speaker 4: I mean that that that corner works until somebody figures
Speaker 4: out that they could go attack somebody else with.
Speaker 3: With Hunter playing wide.
Speaker 4: Receiver, I'm just gonna load him up. I'm gonna load
Speaker 4: him up. Just keep You can't stop this kid. I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna keep throwing the ball. I'm gonna have to make.
Speaker 4: He's making plays. I'm handing it to him. I'm doing
Speaker 4: all these things to try and get him the football.
Speaker 4: I just feel like there could be an argument for
Speaker 4: him for wide receiver one.
Speaker 3: Corner one. He's my corner one. But I also though
Speaker 3: I could.
Speaker 4: Very easily take backspace and move him all the way
Speaker 4: across my board to wide receiver.
Speaker 3: One too, you know. So that's kind of where but
Speaker 3: I just wondered where the room stood.
Speaker 4: Is anybody can argue that he could be wide receiver
Speaker 4: one and it's not. It's not a factor for the Cowboys'
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying for the people out there who
Speaker 4: listen to our show might not be Cowboy fans, but
Speaker 4: just draft, you know, draft.
Speaker 5: Peoples to be like wide receiver three.
Speaker 6: For me, you know, he's a bonafide yat guy, deep
Speaker 6: ball ball tracking type stuff, you know, and you can
Speaker 6: just move.
Speaker 5: Him anywhere or whatever.
Speaker 3: You got McMillan's one.
Speaker 6: I got McMillan one, Burden two Burden from Missouri slack guy,
Speaker 6: and Burden is a better bonafide yet guy to me, Like,
Speaker 6: it's hard. It's hard to tackle that guy. So I'm
Speaker 6: putting Travis at three. But what makes Travis like the
Speaker 6: number one overall guy is that he could be your
Speaker 6: number one corner and your number three receiver. So for me,
Speaker 6: I'm playing a full time corner and maybe in a
Speaker 6: game seven targets, six targets something like that, and you know,
Speaker 6: d ball with him something like that. But as far
Speaker 6: as like the best wide receiver. He's like the third
Speaker 6: guy for me.
Speaker 2: I would put him right there with like Isaiah Bond
Speaker 2: from Texas, Trey Harris from Old mess A couple of
Speaker 2: those guys that are up there in that that realm.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's up there with Rastreppo from Miami,
Speaker 2: Burden from Missouri, and then McMillan's my top guy as
Speaker 2: well from Arizona. Those are the three wide receivers there.
Speaker 2: And I don't have an abundance of confidence in the
Speaker 2: wide receiver class as a whole either. It's not like
Speaker 2: I'm saying these guys are gonna be Cede Lamb down
Speaker 2: the down the line. That's not the case. I don't
Speaker 2: have that same level of confidence. So if you trade
Speaker 2: out from twelve and you pull the parachute fifteen sixteen seventeen,
Speaker 2: if you still have an eye on a receiver, is
Speaker 2: that where you're at.
Speaker 11: I don't know if you're taking a receiver, well, I
Speaker 11: don't know if you can take a receiver with the
Speaker 11: first pick.
Speaker 5: I really don't.
Speaker 11: For the Cowboys twelve, you do need another receiver to
Speaker 11: be the robin to CD Lamb.
Speaker 3: Is there going to be that in the second or
Speaker 3: the third though.
Speaker 11: See that's where that's where you need some action, free agency.
Speaker 10: That's that's where you have to go. Get a guy
Speaker 10: that can help out.
Speaker 4: I think this guy right here will fight you that
Speaker 4: he would take Burdon at twelve take.
Speaker 6: I would definitely take a Burden that's well, I wouldn't
Speaker 6: mind it. Where would you put Ceede Lamb on that catch?
Speaker 6: Because he's a slot guy, Burden is he can play outside.
Speaker 6: He did so a little bit at Missouri, But where
Speaker 6: would you put those guys? See, Lamb goes everywhere, So
Speaker 6: you could just move Lamb where Burden is not, and
Speaker 6: then Burden can go where.
Speaker 3: Make it happen either way.
Speaker 6: I think what dall Is really needs is like a
Speaker 6: true X, like an XX, like a big dude on
Speaker 6: the outside catches, you know, catch the ball away from
Speaker 6: the body. Save Yon Williams TCU wide receiver. I was
Speaker 6: just I was just looking at him, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 6: big body six ' five, can run a little bit,
Speaker 6: catch the ball. Pretty decent guys some drops whatever, and
Speaker 6: with those drops they just kind of hand the ball
Speaker 6: to them. They let them do the rnks snap stuff.
Speaker 6: But just a yat guy and this goes back to
Speaker 6: your previous question, right, like, what are you trying to
Speaker 6: build here? And if you look at let's say a
Speaker 6: team like the Niners, right, they just got all yet guys.
Speaker 5: They do different things, but they're yet guys. Right.
Speaker 6: I would love to have a team fully yet guys
Speaker 6: in XZ slid wide whatever you want to do, right.
Speaker 6: So that's just a handful of guys. But to y'all's point,
Speaker 6: we should get wide receiver relatively early because later on
Speaker 6: they won't exist.
Speaker 7: Burden.
Speaker 8: When I was watching Burton, I wrote down, I feel
Speaker 8: like I'm watching CD Lamb with the way that Miszoo
Speaker 8: used him in their offense, just because some of those
Speaker 8: quick outs and stuff like that in the slot. But
Speaker 8: I also wrote down, there's no problem with having two
Speaker 8: CD Lambs on your team.
Speaker 7: So I don't think anybody's turning that down.
Speaker 8: So I think there are some guys that if you
Speaker 8: were to go late in a wide receiver, if you
Speaker 8: were trying to wait and push it back maybe second
Speaker 8: third round, I think if you if you try to
Speaker 8: do that, and looking at guys like Trey Harris from
Speaker 8: Old Miss that's the guy who's played a lot of football.
Speaker 8: Some health question marks there, but he can be one
Speaker 8: of your ex guys. Sorry, Ja, Corey Brooks from Louisville,
Speaker 8: Alabama transfer. I feel like that could be maybe a
Speaker 8: late run guy that if he tests well. I don't
Speaker 8: know if he's a Senior Bowl or Shrine Bowl guy.
Speaker 3: He's not, but if yet Anyways, if he has a.
Speaker 8: Good performance there, he has a good combat, I think
Speaker 8: that's a guy you can maybe push later in the rounds.
Speaker 8: But I would agree with that if you take a
Speaker 8: wide receiver early, you're probably looking at Burden at twelve
Speaker 8: would be the pick there.
Speaker 3: Save you on.
Speaker 2: Williams, by the way, from TCU is a Senior Bowl invite,
Speaker 2: so you'll see him out.
Speaker 3: In mobile for a little bit there.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take our second break when we come back.
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Speaker 2: Wanted to cap off by just throwing out some names.
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Speaker 2: down names so that they can go and watch their
Speaker 2: own film, which we encourage of course, Brian, when we started,
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Speaker 2: love comparing whenever we go along and then having those
Speaker 2: conversations as we get closer to April, Brian, I'll let
Speaker 2: you start your early pet cats are names that you
Speaker 2: think all those at home should be keeping an eye on.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I want to tell you about.
Speaker 4: Mike Green from Marshall and he is an edge rusher. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a transfer from Virginia. And this is a really
Speaker 4: a twitched up edge rusher both sides of the formation.
Speaker 4: Explosive on the get off, quick first step, some natural bend.
Speaker 4: He's got past moves, swat all those things you want
Speaker 4: to do with your hand, the ability to get up
Speaker 4: the field. Man, he could change direction. I love this
Speaker 4: kid just because Yeah, he came from you know, he
Speaker 4: came from Virginia.
Speaker 3: You know, Virginia.
Speaker 4: Kind of some up and down play there, Marshall, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of the same with him. But this guy plays
Speaker 4: hard all the time. He's six fours, two forty eight,
Speaker 4: you know there. He does not look light in his uniform.
Speaker 4: You see that two forty eight, but he does not.
Speaker 4: He looks like a big guy there. And I love
Speaker 4: the way that he could put his hand down. He
Speaker 4: could also stand up. Love the burst, love the chase.
Speaker 4: I could say the only real deficiency I see was
Speaker 4: the lack of bulk. But man, he plays a lot
Speaker 4: stronger than to forty eight Mike Green, Marshall Edge.
Speaker 2: Sun Belt champion Marshall Thundering heard too had a good
Speaker 2: year out there.
Speaker 8: What do you think, Tommy, I've got a couple you
Speaker 8: talked about John day Barron earlier from Texas. That's a
Speaker 8: guy out twelve the Cowboys. I would be pretty satisfied
Speaker 8: with that, just because he's.
Speaker 7: Got positional versatility.
Speaker 8: One guy kind of deeper in the draft that I
Speaker 8: really like is Nick Martin, linebacker from Oklahoma State.
Speaker 7: Didn't play a lot this year, got hurt.
Speaker 8: A couple of games in with I think a knee injury. Yeah,
Speaker 8: miss most of the year with kne injury. But when
Speaker 8: he played his junior season last year, he goes one
Speaker 8: hundred and forty tackles for Oklahoma State that helped lead
Speaker 8: them to a Big Twelve Championship appearance. They got dusked
Speaker 8: by Texas, but nonetheless six sacks, the forced fumble, two
Speaker 8: picks as well. Just watching him in that Big Twelve
Speaker 8: title game, I thought he played really well. Kind of
Speaker 8: you look at him more of like a mic linebacker,
Speaker 8: which Dallas very well may need with depending on what
Speaker 8: happens with Eric Kendricks, and you look at where Marris
Speaker 8: Lea foutfits into the equation in the future. So just
Speaker 8: versatile guy. I think he's really smart, plays very high football.
Speaker 8: I Q again the injury would be the only question mark,
Speaker 8: but a lot to like with Nick Martin and Texas
Speaker 8: guy Texarkana.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Texas guy.
Speaker 2: When you talk about Martin specifically, you talk about the
Speaker 2: Mike linebacker scenario, what does he do best?
Speaker 3: What is his calling cards?
Speaker 7: I think he's a great tackler.
Speaker 8: I think when when you look at what Eric Kendricks
Speaker 8: does so well for this Cowboys defense is sideline sideline
Speaker 8: and the sideline, the sideline getting ball carriers to the ground.
Speaker 7: Nick Martin can do that for you.
Speaker 8: And I think he can add in that coverage element too,
Speaker 8: and you can get after the passer too. He had
Speaker 8: in two games this year. He or a couple of
Speaker 8: games this year. He had a sack as well, so
Speaker 8: a lot to like.
Speaker 3: He will be at the Senior Bowl this year as well,
Speaker 3: looking forward to it. Botch.
Speaker 6: Let me just start by saying what I'm what I'm
Speaker 6: hating now. Oh, I hate this new trend of the
Speaker 6: three hundred pound guard. You know, the athletic can move,
Speaker 6: good guy. Hate the way that you walk with you
Speaker 6: hate these these quick little guards, these little light guards. Man,
Speaker 6: give me a three hundred and twenty pound guard. Give
Speaker 6: me Tyler Booker from Alabama. Ladies and gentlemen. I like
Speaker 6: when bodies hit the floor. I like when you can
Speaker 6: move people out of a gap. I like when your
Speaker 6: combos are devastating. In that Bama offensive line, they got
Speaker 6: some nasty dudes. Yeah, so they all worked together in tandem.
Speaker 2: Their losses were not on their offensive line, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong.
Speaker 3: It was on their quarterback. We'll talk about that later
Speaker 3: on too.
Speaker 6: And and and Booker just carries this nastiness about him,
Speaker 6: and he carries this confidence like I'm about to quick set,
Speaker 6: I'm about to grab you, grip strength for you, and
Speaker 6: you're not gonna move. Sometimes that kind of gets me
Speaker 6: in trouble. He'll get a little leany, a little over is,
Speaker 6: you know, heels, and he'll fall all over the place
Speaker 6: sometimes because we lost of bounce. But what's the point
Speaker 6: of having Duke manwell across the street if you can't
Speaker 6: fix balance and a player. What I want to do
Speaker 6: is take it back to the old cowboy days. We
Speaker 6: got a Ron Leary, a Travis and a dad gum
Speaker 6: Zach Martin, and give me a Tyler and another Tyler.
Speaker 6: With that Cooper bb you can make your old line
Speaker 6: strong again. And you can. You can. You can move
Speaker 6: a gap all you want to. Tyler Booker is a dude,
Speaker 6: and he was whooping. Brian brought us his LSU Tigers
Speaker 6: and he tried to act like he didn't do it,
Speaker 6: but all the l s U kids were on the
Speaker 6: floor of Brian brought us because Tyler Booker is a guy.
Speaker 5: And that's my pick, Cas, that's my.
Speaker 4: First I'm so glad you went to that as your
Speaker 4: first tape. I have like prot is LSU guy, I
Speaker 4: gotta gotta look at That's the first thing. He and
Speaker 4: I do a show every night, and the first thing
Speaker 4: he says, I watched that l s U Alabama again.
Speaker 4: You got nobody up front, go back. It wasn't ass kicking.
Speaker 4: You got some good tape. That was some good takes.
Speaker 2: Jayleen Melroe played pretty good and that I got two
Speaker 2: Jaylen Milbury. Milroe truthers to both sides of me.
Speaker 7: Right, that's a pet cat for me.
Speaker 3: He had eleven picks this year. He tried to hand
Speaker 3: games over to ninety of people.
Speaker 10: That conversation for a yeah you think, so time for
Speaker 10: me to debate.
Speaker 5: I'm not watching April.
Speaker 2: So in April I called the Auburn Alabama game and
Speaker 2: he tried to give that game to Auburn four different
Speaker 2: times with four different turnovers, and Auburn was not good
Speaker 2: enough to take advantage.
Speaker 3: I did watch the Georgia game. He's pretty good there too,
Speaker 3: watching the game to really, he was pretty good there.
Speaker 2: He's a good runner, yeah, not a good thrower, alright.
Speaker 2: Jackson said about Lamar, He is not Lamar Jackson, Well
Speaker 2: me Jackson, not Labarn Jackson.
Speaker 3: All right, who's your pet cat, Jalen Milroe. This is yeah.
Speaker 11: This is gonna be tough because I want to give three.
Speaker 11: So I'm gonna give like three really quick ones. I'm
Speaker 11: gonna start at the running back position, just because this
Speaker 11: is one We're going to talk about a lot. Kyle
Speaker 11: Manung guy out of Ruggers. He is a bowling ball
Speaker 11: at five nine pounds. He's a New Jersey native that
Speaker 11: stayed home at Ruggers and and stayed there for five
Speaker 11: years running back his entire career. Yes, a running back
Speaker 11: and he uh he is five foot nine, but I
Speaker 11: think he's one of the better pass protectors in this class.
Speaker 11: You look at guys trying to come down in a
Speaker 11: gap blitz and he's right there to blow them and
Speaker 11: throw them out of the club. I love I love
Speaker 11: this kid. He's he fights four for extra yardage. He's
Speaker 11: a five yards per carry guy throughout his entire career.
Speaker 5: I think this is a.
Speaker 11: Guy that if if you sleep on and it's still
Speaker 11: on the board when day three comes around, uh, you're
Speaker 11: gonna miss out on that one. I feel the same
Speaker 11: way about Kyle Mnung guy that I felt about Bucky
Speaker 11: Irving a year ago, in the sense it's like, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 11: this guy might be small, but he plays bigger than
Speaker 11: he is and he's gonna he's gonna be a good pro.
Speaker 11: The only thing that keeps me concerned about Mnong guys
Speaker 11: six hundred and sixty nine total carries during his UH
Speaker 11: during his college career. So certainly something to keep an
Speaker 11: eye on. Does this team need to tight end?
Speaker 6: They're gonna take one every year. Yeah, maybe undrafted, but
Speaker 6: they'll they'll find one everything And.
Speaker 3: Talk about Mason Taylor if you want.
Speaker 10: I'm talking about Harold Fan of Junior out of Bowling.
Speaker 4: Green Senior Bowl guy, right, Yeah. I talked to Jim
Speaker 4: Naggy about him. They're really excited about having him down.
Speaker 3: He might be tight end one.
Speaker 5: He no, no, no, non.
Speaker 10: Tyler Warren, Tyler Warren, ty Tyler Warren.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, We'll talk about Loveland from Michigan's He's pretty good.
Speaker 3: To Jason Taylor from Mello's Shoe. I'm watch that kid.
Speaker 5: I Uh.
Speaker 11: Harrold Fan and Junior broke the FBS record this year
Speaker 11: for receptions by a tight end and receiving yards by
Speaker 11: a tight end. Now, granted he plays uh, he plays
Speaker 11: in the max, so it's there's not a lot of
Speaker 11: action the maction there. There's not a lot of defensive
Speaker 11: prowess that he goes up against. Whenever he's he's playing
Speaker 11: over there. I like Toledo's defense and he uh, he
Speaker 11: played well against Toledo. He had a touchdown in that game.
Speaker 11: He had his second lowest yard total total yardage in
Speaker 11: that game throughout the season though, But you look at
Speaker 11: some of these numbers that he posted twelve one to
Speaker 11: ninety three and to ten one seventy one, seventeen receptions
Speaker 11: for two hundred and thirteen yards in the bowl game.
Speaker 11: He's long, he's uh, he can get up and go
Speaker 11: over guys. He's a guy who can line up on
Speaker 11: the outside. If you wanted to now the blocking, that
Speaker 11: would be the biggest question because they just didn't ask
Speaker 11: him to do a whole lot of that. They just
Speaker 11: threw the ball to him six foot four, two hundred
Speaker 11: and thirty pounds. Though, and seeing what lound wells if
Speaker 11: this coaching staff is still around, seeing what Lunda wells
Speaker 11: with some of those guys have done with John Stevens
Speaker 11: Junior and being able to make him a better blocker,
Speaker 11: and we saw that this past year, even with the
Speaker 11: ACL recovery, we saw better blocking out of him in
Speaker 11: the preseason this year. But I think this is a
Speaker 11: guy who with this staff that's currently here, they can
Speaker 11: make Harold Fan and Junior a star.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 11: In the last one, I'll throw out Davison a Benison,
Speaker 11: the corner out of Ohio State, six ft two, one
Speaker 11: hundred and ninety three pounds, formerly at Ole Miss. He
Speaker 11: was a four star product out of New Jersey, actually
Speaker 11: right down the street from kylewin On guys, So I'm
Speaker 11: staying with my Jersey boys this time around. But anytime
Speaker 11: we see Ohio State, and I know me and Tommy
Speaker 11: we bond on this guy. Anytime we watch Ohio State,
Speaker 11: this guy's locking things down. This guy's making plays, he's
Speaker 11: getting after the ball, he's fighting with receivers. I love
Speaker 11: his physicality on the outside. I think he's a guy
Speaker 11: who you could throw on the outside and have a
Speaker 11: lot of fun with. And he's getting six seventh round grades.
Speaker 11: I highly disagree that's the guy you could take it
Speaker 11: in the third or fourth.
Speaker 2: That would be interesting, by the way, not my words,
Speaker 2: but Jim Naggy's words, the most prolific tight end in
Speaker 2: this year's NFL Draft is heading to Mobile.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Harold Fan and Junior out of Bowling Green.
Speaker 3: They made it, Jim, they made a type video out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 4: Jim gets a nice roster there. Every year, he really
Speaker 4: takes a lot of pride in that.
Speaker 3: Today this year is no different. He is continuing to stack.
Speaker 2: That was only four hours ago that they announced it,
Speaker 2: by the way, So heads up to you guys for
Speaker 2: staying on top of that.
Speaker 3: So Harold, Finn and Jr. I got some Yeah, some
Speaker 3: pet cats.
Speaker 5: How about that?
Speaker 2: All the way through. As we wrap up this first
Speaker 2: edition of the Draft Show, gentlemen, it was good talking
Speaker 2: with you. Welcome to the show, Votch, Welcome to the show, Thomas, guys, Brian, Nick.
Speaker 2: Great to be back with you guys. Excited to be
Speaker 2: here all off season long. It's gonna be a long,
Speaker 2: long offseason.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're having a lot to talk about on the show.
Speaker 5: Yes, we are not just draft fans.
Speaker 3: You're exactly right, all right. That does it for us
Speaker 3: for Tommy rs. Brian brought us Vatch Lombardi for Nick.
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