WEBVTT - The Draft Show: Buckle Up Buttercup 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:08.800 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:12.559 for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:17.080 confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco, and now 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.680 your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:26.960 Today is Tuesday, January seventh, twenty twenty five, and we 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.200 are officially one hundred and seven days away from the 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.400 twenty twenty five NFL Draft. As we welcome you to 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.080 the first episode of the Draft Show, presented by Miller Lyte, 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.120 live from the Star in Frisco, Texas and. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:40.800 The SWBC studios. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.440 It is show number one of forty shows over the 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.960 next couple of months to get you ready for the 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.680 NFL Draft. What is going to be a massive hull 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.559 for the Cowboys this year, and we've got a massive 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.680 crew to welcome in, some new. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.560 Faces, some returning faces. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.640 I call it the Avengers of draft coverage around Dallas 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:00.680 Cowboy Media. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.520 So lots to look forward to. I'm your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.600 This is my sixth season hosting the Draft Show in 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.040 some capacity. As we go into the draft again, we've 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.360 got Brian brought us. I put on our rundown that 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.040 this is your number one, thy three and twenty one, 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.559 covering the draft for Brian broad Us. 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.560 Good to have you back, Thank you very much. I am. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:19.280 I want to say this. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.600 You're gonna introduce some new cats to this thing. And 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.960 I wonder where the donuts are. Boys, You know what, 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.640 the other Scouts you got to bring the donuts and 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:27.240 the bagels. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:28.760 That's kind of a scouty tradition. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.720 When you show up at a school, you got to 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.280 bring donuts and bagels here. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.279 So we got to We've got some learning to do. Exact. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:35.960 There's a little bit of room over there. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.280 I will wrestle everybody up in here to not bring 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.160 no bagels donuts. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:41.679 Appreciate you off having it. 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.000 We've got Votch Lombardi joining us. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.480 Votch, You've you've been creating cowboys content for how long now. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.600 I've been doing cowboys too long to even count. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.240 You know what, You've been doing it long enough. Is 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:52.880 just part of your life. It is what it is. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.280 But hey, man, playball, coach a little bit of ball. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.360 But I've been talking crap on YouTube for a loan time. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.640 Love it, man, Appreciate you off having me. And now 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.040 we get on our airwaves. You expect nothing different by 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:04.880 the way. I've been a fan of your content since 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.720 we started talking back in twenty twenty about all this 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:11.360 stuff and just getting you involved with Dallas Cowboys content 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.480 moving forward. They call it the mothership from all the creators. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.160 I don't classify us as the mother ship. I classify 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.399 us as at least the closest here. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.000 So now you get some access, you get some opportunity. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:23.720 This is gonna be awesome. We're excited to have you. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.200 They're going to be kicking me out of here and 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.120 call the security let's go out. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.480 That would be a win in my book. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.200 We've also got Tommy Yarish his first season with the 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.400 Draft Show as well. Tommy, your background You come from Chicago, 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.919 went to University of Texas, which that'll be an interesting conversation. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.959 There's a lot of Texas Cats. Yeah, they're in the 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.480 draft this year. What's your background going into the draft? 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.560 Covered every level of football in the state of Texas. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.360 Spent a lot of time in high school, college at 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.480 the University of Texas, and now with the Cowboys. Just 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.160 wrapped up my first regular season covering the Cowboys beat. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.280 So super excited to be on the Draft Show. I 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.440 love college football, so this is gonna be a lot 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.280 of fun. And I love breaking down college guys. Like 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.480 you said, there's a lot of Texas guys that that 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.680 could look forward to in Dallas and beyond. Last last 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:08.320 Texas guy they picked worked out pretty well. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.160 For Yeah, that weren't pretty good, didn't it, didn't it? 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:10.600 Uh? 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.160 And then we've got this guy. Feels like it's just 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:12.840 a year ago. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.960 Today we were talking about your background. You're now a 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.600 seasoned veteran with this draft. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.040 Yes, so let's move on, Nick Harris. It's going good. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:23.760 I'm ready to our telegram. 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.480 Yep, yep. Happy to be back. This is gonna be 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.320 an interesting draft cycle. I think we got a lot 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.680 to talk about even right off the bat. But I'd 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.240 been studying this class a little bit more in depth 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.240 than I think where I was at this point last year. 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.120 Learned and uh, I learned and applied from from my 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.440 process from a year ago. So I got a little 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:42.680 bit of a head start this year. So I feel 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.320 good about where I'm at. Feel good about where I'm at. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.440 Oh, So that means we're relying on you pretty quickly here. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.960 Hey, feel free good is with those last names, all 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.120 the last names. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.080 And the players we can't pronounce Ole miss Edge. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:04:00.840 Rusher, Uh, princely Umanmulin No way, yeah, no way, Mommy, Yellen, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:02.280 I covered the kid. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:11.440 Listen, go back and listen to it. Prince Mammy Ellen. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:12.840 Promise you to. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.400 I got to be another one in a couple of years. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.360 Out of what did he end up, princevill his oldle 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.680 brother Nebraska. He ended up Now he transferred end up 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.120 Ole miss Ole Miss Okay, So yeah, there's gonna be 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.840 more together at Ole miss Well. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.200 Now he just out there. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.960 He got it, Okay, got it, got it. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.680 Well, We've got a lot to look forward to, new faces, 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.120 returning members. We're excited. We'll also join U, Zach Wilchuck, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.279 Bobby Belt. They'll join the show as well starting on Thursday. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.479 So we'll have a rotation of everybody moving through. So 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.640 don't worry, you'll get to hear from those guys very soon. 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.479 I want to start with positions of need. What did 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.800 we learn from this twenty twenty four season around the 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.800 Cowboys specifically. I know we're going to talk a lot 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.000 of prospects. This isn't just a Cowboys draft show. But 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.279 with all the concern across the hall and all the 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.840 intrigue going on between the coaching staff and the front 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.279 off and what's going to happen over these next few weeks. Nick, 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.719 I'll start with you in terms of the Cowboys. What 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.160 direction are we headed in terms of this draft? 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.440 Yeah, I think it's really dependent on what shakes out 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.760 over the next couple of weeks too. There's a lot 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.640 of decisions that have to be made up front before 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.080 we can really get or before this front office can 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.040 really get into the nitty gritty of position needs and 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.720 things of that nature. Because you have Will McLay on 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.960 an expiring contract, you have a scouting department that is 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.279 mostly on an expiring contract. All of the coaches on 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.479 this coaching staff are in limbo at the moment, trying 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.560 to await their fate. So you know, certain coaches prioritize 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.479 different positions and different skill sets. So what exactly this 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.080 staff looks like from a coaching perspective and from a 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.920 front office and scouting perspective could look a lot different 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.040 on February first. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.119 And it did on January first. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.040 So, but I mean, if we're looking at it from 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.200 a holistic view, holistic lens and trying to understand, Hey, 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.880 you know, this is a roster need. You could look 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.000 at almost every position and you can make a case 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.360 that there's some need there. You look at the free 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.280 agents that are partying out of the door. You know, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:02.840 I think last year we had a pretty good case 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:04.400 to say, hey, they don't need a quarterback, they don't 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.559 need a tight end, but everything else you can pretty 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.240 much make a case for. And they went out and 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.159 they added they added some help at almost every position 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:12.720 other than safety, if I can think off the top 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.279 of my head. But this time around, I feel like 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.400 they need to use these ten eleven picks depending on 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.560 how many they get, to really address every position on 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:20.280 both sides the ball. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.880 Brian, You've been around coaching changes and levels like this, 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:24.920 going in the. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.640 Reason why we had a coach and change a couple of. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:32.640 Times, going into just an off season of uncertainty whenever 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.560 it comes to an NFL franchise. How much does that 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.480 hinder or how much does that help a draft process 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:39.240 when you go into it. 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:43.600 Continuity is the scout's best friend. You look at organizations 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.200 like the Pittsburgh Steelers and others that have had their 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.320 coaches in place for long periods of time. As a scout, 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.080 when your advantages you have is when you do have 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.359 that continuity, you're able to go out and scout players 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.360 that your coaches want. When you have change, that then 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.320 all of a sudden and Vach and I do a 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.920 show together and we talk about this one night that 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.160 they that when you have this change and then you 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.280 have a new staff come in, maybe some players you 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.720 didn't particularly think fit. Now you know your your current club. 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.800 Now you're having to go back and look. So you're 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.080 really kind of doing double the work. And you know, 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.560 maybe in your mind you're thinking, Okay, we've got coaches 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.239 on one year deals, we could have a change. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:26.000 I need to be. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.480 Aware because some guys you'll just naturally eliminate because hey, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.240 he's not a fit. You know, the hight weight speed 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.160 parameters are not correct here. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:36.840 So you move on from guys. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.080 You get a new staff in here, man that that 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.080 kount of changes they come in. They want a totally 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.520 different type of player. And that's why you see some 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.800 of these teams sometimes with you look at their team 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.160 when they're out there on the field. 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:49.320 They look mismatched. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.920 You know, some of the teams that have continuity, their 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.360 team looks really the same physically, you get a team 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.600 that has a lot of turnover. Sometimes your players look 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.640 up and down that way, so it uh that uh, 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:05.320 not having that continuity, it really really hurts your scouty apartment. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.600 And of course the Cowboys have gone through that in 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.000 a minor way. The last couple of years changes offensively. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.760 Dan Quinn had his guy, had his guys that he liked, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.560 and then you get Mike Zimmer that comes in here 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.760 says even at the end of the regular season, Man, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.600 I wish it would have done in my way, she said, Sean, right, 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.240 get out of here. That was very quick kid training 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:26.960 camp that didn't last very long. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.560 But watch I know you've kept an eye on this team. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.280 Watch a lot of film, sir, where do they start? 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:34.120 I'll tell you what. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.240 We have stars and y'all can hear me say this 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.760 a bunch, but we need role players. Everybody said with me, 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.240 we need roll players. Okay, so think about this, right, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.040 We've been waiting, man, when are we gonna use Turp 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.559 And when we're gonna you know, create his role right, 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.880 And we eventually got to it, but we need seven 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.760 more of those guys where hey, we're in this situation 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.720 deployed that that do this, do this right. We need 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.600 more of that. You know, we have a Micah, but 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.240 Micah needs a running mate. We have a Lamb, but okay, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.480 you're just gonna trip and double and bracket them all day. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.600 Let's get somebody over here that could take pressure off 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:05.719 off of that guy. So it's not just one thing 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.480 that we're looking for, and online they'll say, oh, we 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.600 need all things. I think what we're gonna have to 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.480 you know, just breaking down film. We're just gonna have 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.000 to figure out, Okay, what's important to us. We may 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.280 be looking at Okay, cool Malacho Starks, he's available for us. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.320 Can I live without you know, one tech? Can I 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.760 live without three tech? Can I live without wide receiver? 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:24.559 Two? Running back? 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.920 We're gonna be saying bad things about Ashton en Ze, right, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.400 Ashton Jense is fantastic, But somebody's gonna say running back's 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.760 not important. Right now, we need to build D line. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.319 We don't know what we're doing with our last two 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.880 first round picks. So hey man, role players, role players. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:41.040 What do you think, Tony? 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.040 Yeah, no, I think watching hit the nail on the head. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.120 This team has their core right. The entire message we've 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.679 gotten from the front office has been we want Dak Prescott, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.480 Cedey Lamb and Michael Parsons. There's your cornerstones of the franchise. Well, 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.280 you got to surround them with something because you can 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.199 you can't rely on three people in a twenty two 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.400 man game. So I think that you know, Nick made 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.679 a good point in the sense that this year's class 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.240 and how dallasted approach it is. Man, they're gonna need 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:09.640 help in a lot of spots. I mean I put 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.679 down defensive line, wide receiver, corner, offensive line. I think 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:17.160 you've got an argument, safety, running back, everything. So really yeah, everything, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:18.719 and it's going to be a lot of I think 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.280 best player available. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:21.240 Pay anybody else. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:25.040 Exactly, you really need role players and. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.880 You're tight on money, and there are guys that they 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.040 want to bring back that they're going to have to pay. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.000 If you decide to bring back a Jordan Lewis, if 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:33.920 you decide to bring back also Diggi Zoo, if you 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.960 decide to extend Mica Parsons this offseason. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.959 So that's why this class is extremely important, and you 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.800 got to be versatile on where you spend your picks. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.080 Also, to one more thing, let's not walk past. What 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.240 Nick and what Brown was saying to coaching is going 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.880 to super super matter here, like you know, we can 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:50.679 be okay, let's just look at offensive line. Let's just 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.600 look at guards. Are we going to be doing wide zone? 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.720 Are we going to be pushing guys around? Like just 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.120 that conversation is the difference between Tyler Booker or like 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.440 Marcus about right, are you trying to re people? Are 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.160 you trying to push guys that way to? You know, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.199 so we have to figure out who this coach is 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:05.880 to have and you know, hey, I ain't gonna say 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.160 nothing about nobody that owns this team in their building, 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.880 but let's figure that out right now so that we 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.760 can have a feel for what this team could look like, 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:13.960 so wee can start evaluate play. 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:15.960 See we're one segment into this show. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.240 That was what we spent the whole morning talking about, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:19.600 talking on talking cowboy. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.160 Let's get this thing done. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.600 So that way we know what direction this team is 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.160 headed right now, where you're going one way or the other. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:27.480 You either keep them or you don't. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.400 But let's make a decision so that way, no one's 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.520 guessing at this point, because right now there's a lot 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:32.480 of guessing going on. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.800 Yeah, and you know, only one man and a few 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.240 others know really what what the direction is going to be, 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.760 and hopefully it's sooner than later. But you know, when 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.000 you work in this organization, you understand that later tends 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:44.880 to win the day. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.400 So you've got to be able to adjust and adapt. 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.840 And you know that's what Will McClay and this staff 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:51.599 is going to have to do. But they've got a 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.559 big job ahead of him. I will say this though, 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.800 about this football team. When they are able to select 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.400 the best player on their board, they win a lot 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.440 of days. Yes they do, right, They win the day 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.160 when they when they're able to do that. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.439 So hopefully, uh, you know, much. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.079 Like everybody's talked about here, there's so many areas and 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.960 so many directions this thing could go that. You know, 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.559 you feel like sometimes you're you focus in on something 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.280 and maybe that player goes and you feel like you 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.000 got wiped out there here. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.120 If somebody goes. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.720 Ahead of you in those picks, you could at least 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.600 feel good that you're you know what, we we're going 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:21.760 to have our stack. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:22.800 Those are names. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.920 One of those guys is going to be a Dallas cowboy, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:26.760 and most likely that guy's going to come in and 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:27.600 help your football team. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:31.400 I wonder what the odds were for Malachi Starks, defensive 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.439 back out of Georgia to be the first name mentioned 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.120 on the Draft show in twenty twenty five. 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:35.800 It's interesting. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.120 I thought it would be as I thought it would 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:40.960 be ashtingenty from Boise State. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.000 But the first thing that we mentioned last last year 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:43.760 on the Draft show was. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:49.200 It was all right, so heyah, well bult right now 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:49.719 there it is. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.520 Why was that the first name that came to mind. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.120 I've just been I'm heavy into you know, Twitter, X 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.080 streets or whatever, and I just see some of the 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.000 names slowing around. We're not going to have a whole 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.160 bunch of first round great here guys. I got it 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.680 left Brown may have thirteen, You may have ten, fifth whatever, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.520 and Malakai is one of them. And just because you know, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.400 the Cowboys kind of won some games towards the end 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.240 of the season, there's this short group of guys that's 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.160 in between eight and like twelve. So I think Malachi 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.240 is in their group. But we can hope that one 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:17.880 of those other guys kind of fall down to us. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.520 We're gonna have conversations like this the whole draft season, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.400 trading up, trading back, and all this kind of little stuff. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.840 But Malachi just popped up in my head because free safety. Honestly, 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.680 I think there are luxuries and it's stuff that you need. Yeah, 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.760 we need to figure out d line. We're not that 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.120 figured out there. We need wide receiver to run it back. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.360 But I think free safety is a luxury. So if 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.440 we're on the board and Malachi is there, he may 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.920 be the best player. You're gonna have to ask yourself. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.680 Do I go with this kind of need there this luxury, 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.920 or do we go like, let's build the base of 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:46.320 this thing. 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.480 I just think he's a polarizing player in that way. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.480 I think it's interesting you brought up the first round 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:52.200 grades already. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:53.240 It's so early on. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.440 But I had a conversation with a scout last week. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.240 He said the same thing. He said, this is gonna 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.839 be a low first round grade. Yeah, draft class. That's 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.320 the feel is from a league wide standpoint, probably ten 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.440 to twelve. Luckily the Cowboys haven't mentioned it yet. They 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.040 are picking number twelve in the NFL draft. This year, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.120 they lost that final game win from well would have 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.800 been seventeen down to twelve. It helps you possibly hit 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.360 one of those first round graded guys, But does that 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.000 change the way you scout, Brian when you go into 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:20.920 a draft with the mindset of, hey, there's only going 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.320 to be a dozen guys with first round grades. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.840 Now I think that you know, you just set your board, 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.560 you know, you look at your players, you set your board, 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.320 and then whatever that number. You know, we've we're going 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.840 to get into this hot and heavy about these offensive tackles, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.960 you know, I mean it. It is not going to 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.920 be like we've had in the past where we've had 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.120 discussions about plug and play, plug and play plugging with 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.600 there are a lot of questions about these guys. You're 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.520 going to start to ask about the strengths of the 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.760 of the position groups and where this thing's going to fall. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.120 So whether that number is, whether that numbers twelve or 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.520 twenty two, you're going to just do the same things 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.240 that you normally do as far as gets your board prepped. 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.680 How much do you feel like the current state of 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.920 collegiate athletics plays a fact into that nil transfer portal? 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:11.480 Yeah, you have a lot of kids Covidien thing year Yeah, yeah, 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:12.320 the nine year at. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.200 The kid Now everybody that's jo is going to be 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:16.320 here for eleven years. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:17.920 I mean we're going to talk about if we're talking 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.680 about the quarterback position, I think that's the easiest one 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.440 to to talk about. When it comes to experience, we'll 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.240 talk about guys like Dylan Gabriel who's got a ton 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.520 of experience, Kyle McCord who's had a ton of experience. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.080 But you can look on the offensive line as well 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.880 and see a ton of experience. And these kids are 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.880 incentivized to go back to school. If they have like 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.240 a fourth fifth round grade and coming out of their 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.960 junior year, or if they have an extra year with 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:40.960 the COVID year, their incentivised to go back to school 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:42.640 because they can make money. It's like, okay, then I 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.560 can get my stock back up to the second round. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.840 You look at a guy like ariont Urseri, the offensive 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.480 tackle out of Minnesota. This is not a guy we've 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.920 been talking about in the first round last year. So 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:57.400 this is a good good That's it's gonna be an 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:58.520 interesting conversation as well. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.960 But I think I think the group and a whole 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.240 as a whole, and I'm looking forward to hearing your 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.600 guys thought because you know, watch and I were talking 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.400 about this on our show. We you know, it's like, man, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.120 why is this group? Why am I struggling with this 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.280 group right now? Why am I thinking I'm looking at 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.320 a bunch of guards. Why am I thinking I'm Yeah, 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.000 that's fair. That's that's the you know, there's not that 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.960 sure fire, that boom. I'm gonna put my put my 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.000 name on this guy because I think there's gonna be 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.360 I think there's several positions that have some some kind 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.760 of question marks that we when we break it all down. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.320