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Speaker 1: What do we even do?

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Speaker 2: What are we even doing?

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Speaker 3: Hey there everyone, I'm Kyle McLachlan, and we're about to

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Speaker 3: jump into what are we even Doing? Where we speak

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Speaker 3: with artists, musicians, creative people that are shaking up the

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Speaker 3: internet to discuss their creativity, their process, what really motivates

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Speaker 3: them and why they do what they do.

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Speaker 2: And I am so fortunate today to have a special guest.

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Speaker 3: Julian Shapiro Barnum with us, the host of Recess Therapy,

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Speaker 3: writer comedian, just very happy to speak with them. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the podcast. The pod stew as we sometimes refer to.

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Speaker 1: Kyle, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's so fun to have you here. I am so

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Speaker 3: curious about what you have done, what you've created. I mean,

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Speaker 3: just the subject is unusual. It's like you you decided

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Speaker 3: you were going to speak with kids about everything, how

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Speaker 3: they feel and what's going on.

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Speaker 1: It's been a fantastic adventure of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I bet what sort of brought you into this?

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Speaker 3: I asked you, was there a core memory, let's say

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Speaker 3: it was there. There's something that triggered this, and he went, Hey,

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Speaker 3: this is something that I want to do for you.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those things where it's like I, you know,

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Speaker 4: you look back your life and you can see the

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Speaker 4: bread crumbs and you're like, oh, it makes sense that

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Speaker 4: I got here. But like inciting incident was I was

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Speaker 4: in college at Boston University, okay, and I'm very young.

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Speaker 4: I was there when COVID happened.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I hate you because you're so young, but that's right.

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Speaker 4: I can feel the resentment. I was studying theater. I'm

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Speaker 4: a theater kid, and I was doing a lot of

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Speaker 4: like improv and playwriting and just making things like just

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Speaker 4: any chance I could. And then when COVID happened, all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, we couldn't make anything together. And have

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Speaker 4: you did you during COVID do any like zoom theater

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Speaker 4: or nobody?

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Speaker 2: But you definitely?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I started to zoom.

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Speaker 3: I actually have a wine business, and so I would

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Speaker 3: do tastings with people online over zoom because it was

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Speaker 2: So we would send the wine out and do that.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of use it for that.

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Speaker 3: But I think there was a I think maybe you're

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Speaker 3: going towards this is there was a kind of a

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Speaker 3: creative possibility here in a different way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just like my entire life, I had

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Speaker 4: been really drawn to doing things in person and like

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Speaker 4: like it actually felt like torture to do a scene

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Speaker 4: so I was all of a sudden really drawn to

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Speaker 4: doing things outside and on the street, right, And I

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Speaker 4: think in one part it was like a loneliness thing.

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Speaker 4: It was I wanted to get out and connect with people,

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Speaker 4: kind of like right at the beginning of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: when COVID started, I would leave my apartment with a

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Speaker 4: I did that for quite some time, and then end

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Speaker 4: of April I'd kind of gotten to the spot where

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Speaker 4: like every week I was gonna go out, I'm do

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Speaker 4: an interview. And one day I was in a playground

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Speaker 4: sour pusses and being very grumpy and like complaining, and

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Speaker 4: we were like, what the hell do they have that

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Speaker 4: say of the joy that the kids pos assed, And

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Speaker 4: so I was like, what if we asked them? What

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Speaker 4: I went and I got a camera to a microphone,

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Speaker 4: and there's a lot of really funny, awkward early footage

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Speaker 1: We we're like, are we really going.

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Speaker 5: To like go up to these families and like ask

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Speaker 1: This felt very special.

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Speaker 2: Immediately, Yeah, you're onto something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt it felt like.

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Speaker 3: Deeper, yeah, and genuine I think that's one of the

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Speaker 3: I really respond to, you know, I think coming from

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Speaker 3: the theater where I think one as an actor, one

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Speaker 3: have to work with them and do a scene with them. Probably,

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Speaker 3: But with kids, I think they I think they respond

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Speaker 3: to that. The genuine interest that you have, that you

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Speaker 2: Is is is very very special. You know, yeah, you don't.

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Speaker 3: There's no condencension or condensation unless I really want that.

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Speaker 3: I find really special because it sort of reminded me

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Speaker 3: It's like, how do you respond, how do you how

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Speaker 3: the same time answer the question but don't belittle it

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Speaker 3: or put it down. I don't think it's important. And

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Speaker 3: I think you really you handle that really beautifully.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: And so many people come up to me and they're like,

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Speaker 4: I hate kids, but like, like you make it so

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Speaker 4: think it could sometimes be uncomfortable or like hard to

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Speaker 4: put aside your own interests and really just like throw

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it has to do with

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Speaker 3: you have to basically go to them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like one of the kids I work with, Miles, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I've known him for three plus years, and the other

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Speaker 4: day we were filming something and he was like, I

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Speaker 4: Like it's a lot of like me asking him about

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Speaker 4: I don't need that from that type of relationship. Like

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Speaker 2: What they care about, what they care about.

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Speaker 3: Legos was something, And honestly, I found that when we

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Speaker 2: Somewhere, that that stuff just starts to talk. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing with with lego. So we build

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Speaker 1: Do and like it just lead the natural conversation.

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Speaker 4: So how did you navigate like talking about kind of

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Speaker 3: You know, it's really about I always feel like it's

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's this, you know what I mean? Or are

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's a good place to feel it,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I think just kind of a supportive,

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Speaker 3: if they don't feel like you're involved. You mentioned your

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Speaker 1: It's very exciting.

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Speaker 4: Because now I've been doing this for I'm in my

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Speaker 4: fifth year of doing of interviewing kids. Wow, And it's

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Speaker 4: it's like very cool. I feel like I'm this unique

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Speaker 2: You, like a friend.

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Speaker 4: I'm like a friend, and they share with me what

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Speaker 4: like a letter of recommendation from middle school, like I'm

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Speaker 4: it said like relationship and I put coworker, which I

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Speaker 4: thought was that's funny to me. And one more thing

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Speaker 4: I'll say is like when I started the show, the

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Speaker 4: big thesis was like, what can I, as a young

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Speaker 4: person learn from kids? How can I be a better adult?

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Speaker 4: And that was when I was like twenty yeah, and

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Speaker 4: I'm almost twenty.

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Speaker 1: Six, and what have you?

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Speaker 4: I like, I feel much more like an adult now

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Speaker 4: than when I started the show at least, and I've

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Speaker 4: grown up a lot too over that time, and I

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Speaker 4: feel a lot more self assured. And I feel honestly like,

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Speaker 4: maybe not because of the kids entirely, but like, alongside

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Speaker 4: the kids, I've also come into myself in a lot

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Speaker 4: of ways. So it's been a cool dual experience.

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Speaker 2: Do you think kids are in your future? Your own kids?

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Speaker 4: Is that something I feel too young to think about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but like I think i'd be a great dad.

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Speaker 2: I think you'd be a great dad too.

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Speaker 1: Did you want kids of twenty five?

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Speaker 2: I did not? Right, No, I didn't have kids. I

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Speaker 2: had kids late. I had our son who was of forty.

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Speaker 4: My research is telling me that you do comedy, improv comedy,

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Speaker 4: love it and I've been doing improvs Does in the

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Speaker 4: third grade.

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Speaker 2: I was reading this.

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Speaker 3: You were out out and about doing interviews and things

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Speaker 3: like this or was this improve that you started or

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Speaker 3: did you because it was involved kind of interviewing people,

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Speaker 3: which you spoken about earlier. But tell me about the

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Speaker 3: years old you're improving your Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When I was, I wish no.

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Speaker 6: I yeah.

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Speaker 1: I come from a family of comedy entprisers.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: My only nepotism is that my parents growing up wore

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Speaker 4: kids themselves, and so that's I think that's a lot.

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Speaker 4: They also raised me as a child. But anyway, I

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Speaker 4: when I was in the third or fourth grade, they

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Speaker 4: did a great job.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: These two improvisers, Mike and Laura came into my elementary school.

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Speaker 1: Petwey one okay, shout out.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you never know what you're gonna put

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Speaker 4: in front of a child that's going to change their life.

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Speaker 4: And for me, it was just these I remember every

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Speaker 4: part of the lesson. I remember them like we passed

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Speaker 4: all the energy. They did this example where they got

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Speaker 4: up and they were like, here's how to do bad

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Speaker 4: improv and one was like, fantastic day to be at

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Speaker 4: sea and the other one was like we're standing in

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Speaker 4: a classroom, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, you got it immediately it

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Speaker 2: was bad yea.

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Speaker 4: And then full circle moment was last year I started

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Speaker 4: a new show called Celebrity Substitute.

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Speaker 1: Where we have oh my god, I know this, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, it's fun where we have Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I got nervous watching it, but go ahead, you should

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Speaker 2: come on it.

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Speaker 1: You You welcome anytime.

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Speaker 3: And I want to ask you, what what do you

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Speaker 3: think I should teach?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me let me let me think think

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but finish the story. Finish the story.

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Speaker 4: We had Keenan Thompson from SNL come teach improv my

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Speaker 4: elementary Good kids amazing, And it was like this really

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Speaker 4: cool full circle moment where I was also like teaching

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Speaker 4: the improv with Keenan and like, you know, he's so lovely.

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Speaker 4: And saw a kid from that shoot the other day

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Speaker 4: and she was like, when can we do that again?

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Speaker 4: Like when when can you come back and do more

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Speaker 4: improv with that song. I was like no, but like

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Speaker 4: you can do it yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you've got to. We found we found a person.

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Speaker 1: What would you teach an elementary school class wine taste.

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Speaker 2: Penmanship would be, we're gonna learn cursive.

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Speaker 1: Do you have good penmanship? I do? I don't, I do.

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Speaker 3: I had the fourth grade Missus Matson, Missus Mattson would

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Speaker 3: not allow me to move forward into fifth grade unless

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Speaker 3: site and so I was literally you know with those

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Speaker 3: remember of the paper it was like kind of more

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Speaker 3: horizontal like this with the lines across it, and we

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Speaker 3: had to do a's and these all the way through.

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Speaker 3: And I think it began to appeal to the ADHD

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Speaker 3: and me.

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Speaker 2: I began to like, go, I like this and I

511
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Speaker 2: would make and I try to get more and more perfect.

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Speaker 3: It appealed to like I need this to be perfect now.

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Speaker 3: So suddenly I started paying attention to something and I really,

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Speaker 3: I really liked that.

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Speaker 2: I thought I could be a calligrapher. It was like,

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Speaker 2: this is what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's fantastic, and then look at you now and

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Speaker 3: look at me now. I can always fall back on

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Speaker 3: calligraphy if this doesn't want.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge market for me.

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Speaker 2: You know, do you ever see cursive anymore?

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think that was one of the last classes

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Speaker 1: to take.

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Speaker 4: Cursive were because we did cursive and typing, and I

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Speaker 4: don't think people learn either of those anymore. I think

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Speaker 4: you grow up learning how to type and cursively. I

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Speaker 4: was not in the third second grade. If your handwriting

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Speaker 4: was good enough, you would earn the ability to use

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Speaker 4: a pen because your words were worth saying.

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Speaker 1: I never got one. Holly Stewart, I love her to dad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but she never believed in me.

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Speaker 2: Dang.

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Speaker 1: No, she believed that she wouldn't give you give me

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Speaker 1: a bad.

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Speaker 3: Dang, that's terrible. We had a kid in school I remember,

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Speaker 3: in first grade, and he would make all his letters.

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Speaker 2: With a ruler. Wow, not easy to make a circle

539
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Speaker 2: with the hard ass, and he would. Yeah it was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, his writing was impeccable. Maybe he went on

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Speaker 3: to become an architect.

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Speaker 4: That's like joping like it's like, do it without that,

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Speaker 4: I'll be a ruler.

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Speaker 2: I mean I was like, wow, that's intense, Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we ask about the playground slang and then

546
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Speaker 1: maybe this whole carry a wallet situation that is true?

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Speaker 3: So slang is yeah, slang is also an important thing,

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Speaker 3: So I riz, yeah, because I know some because of

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Speaker 3: my son, and you know you have to pay attention.

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Speaker 3: So Riz, I got s give it the I remember

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Speaker 3: that it's changes.

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Speaker 4: So quickly, can you give me like right to the camera, like,

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Speaker 4: what a fan it's I don't know if I like,

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Speaker 4: I think it funny of him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's do a new intro to the pod.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I would just like, what a fam it's

557
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Speaker 4: your boy, But don't include me saying okay.

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Speaker 2: What up, fam, it's your boy. You know what happens

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Speaker 2: with that?

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Speaker 3: What do you want to start gesticulating in a different

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Speaker 3: way and you're like, what up, fam, it's your boy?

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Speaker 1: You want to start say Kyle, you know, like, really,

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Speaker 1: what a.

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Speaker 3: Fam it's your boy? Kyle McLachlan here at the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Say check check it Yai.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I would never say that.

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Speaker 2: No, I felt you just did.

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Speaker 1: But that's because I know, I mean, the know, what

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Speaker 1: are the kids saying these days?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So you you deal, they're pretty young, do they have So.

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Speaker 1: Here's my experience.

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Speaker 4: I hate when the kids say slang to me. This

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Speaker 4: is a bit of a soap box of mine. Back

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Speaker 4: in the day, back when we were kids, Yes, wait, give.

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Speaker 1: Me your hand.

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Speaker 4: When we were young, when we were young, well, when

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Speaker 4: we were young, dial was never young.

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Speaker 1: You've been like, well, they were like micro dialects. There

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Speaker 1: were like slang that was regional. It didn't travel, didn't

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Speaker 1: travel like.

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Speaker 4: You know, when I was a kid, I grew up

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Speaker 4: in Brooklyn, moved to Philly. In Philly, I was like,

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Speaker 4: what the hell are they talking about? They'd say things

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Speaker 4: like that's chalked, and like bowl young bull right, so sorry,

586
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Speaker 4: I want some chill bowl. And then but in New

587
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Speaker 4: York they say like brick to which means cold and

588
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Speaker 4: now means have an erection, but like slang.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, what I was gonna say, learning, we're learning.

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Speaker 4: But now it's like, because of TikTok and social media,

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Speaker 4: every kid speaks the same language. And then when they do,

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Speaker 4: it disappoints me because it means that they've Like when

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Speaker 4: a kid says bru.

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Speaker 1: To me, do you know bruh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it hurts.

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Speaker 1: I don't say bruh. Yeah, you're you're letting the man win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're losing your your regionalism. You're you're your low,

598
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Speaker 3: you're who you are, your person some of your personality.

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Speaker 4: Is I want like folklore, elementary school specific folklore. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like I don't want everyone to know about like just

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Speaker 4: like like whatever's trending, like I don't care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sorry, it goes quick. I mean the things like, yeah,

603
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Speaker 2: when I was younger, what was groove? Groovy? That was good?

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Speaker 2: It was groovyvy I know that was and even cool.

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Speaker 3: It's cool, you know, I mean that had happened before,

606
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Speaker 3: but that was pretty universal.

607
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Speaker 1: Was cow Bungo when you were a kid?

608
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Speaker 2: Cal Bungo was cal? Yeah? Definitely for surfing.

609
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was because of well, you know, you

610
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Speaker 3: get your slang sometimes from from the albums. He listened

611
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Speaker 3: to the album so Beach Boys, you know, Endless Summer.

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Speaker 3: You know you listened to that, or or comedy albums.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot from Robin Williams. Oh albums I

615
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Speaker 1: shouldn't have learned.

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Speaker 2: Oh, god, oh, you shouldn't have.

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Speaker 1: Thought of.

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Speaker 4: Like, my mom raised me with a lot of like also,

619
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Speaker 4: Gilligan's Island. I don't remember a lot of that, but

620
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Speaker 4: he's favorite stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, one of my favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: Really fantastic.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I grew up with Gilligan's.

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Speaker 3: Island and Julie and Galligan's ile skipper around Professor.

626
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like how they My favorite fact about

627
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Speaker 4: that show is the know they did the theme song

628
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Speaker 4: and then after season one they like tacked on the

629
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Speaker 4: Professor and Mary and even though they were there the

630
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Speaker 4: whole time.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't know this really they came in later.

632
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Speaker 1: No, No, they're in the show the whole time. Season one.

633
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Speaker 1: It's like the Billionaire and his wife.

634
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Speaker 3: The movie SA and then and then rest and who

635
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Speaker 3: they are professor who didn't get a name? Yeah, yeah, anyway,

636
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Speaker 3: they shot the gilding. I love Gilligan's Island and I

637
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Speaker 3: did this year. I did this very short lived half

638
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Speaker 3: hour and we were filmed at the CBS Radford and

639
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Speaker 3: this is where they shot Giligan's Island. And they said

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Speaker 3: we would point to like it was like a parking

641
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Speaker 3: lot and said, oh, that's where the island was really yeah,

642
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Speaker 3: was gone, Yeah, totally, but I was like, wow, that's

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Speaker 3: that's it.

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Speaker 4: I had a weird experience on a lot semi recently,

645
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Speaker 4: which is I I've been filming my show Slabrity Substitute,

646
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Speaker 4: and it was like week after week just being in

647
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Speaker 4: elementary schools. And then I went to lay to do

648
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Speaker 4: something with Abbot Elementary and I like walked into a

649
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Speaker 4: Philadelphia public school that was on a sound stage and

650
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Speaker 4: it was very brain wow because it looks real.

651
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Speaker 2: They captured it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why Yeah, they do such a good job.

653
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Speaker 3: They do such a good job. I know they can

654
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Speaker 3: make stuff. So speaking of that, so celebrity, what am

655
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Speaker 3: I going to do? Celebrity substitute?

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Speaker 1: We'd probably make you do some acting something.

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of acting thing. But it's sort of

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Speaker 2: hard because kids are just actors.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they do it.

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Speaker 4: I mean that we're crushing they're acting circles around those.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And Andrew he did everything I did. He in a

663
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Speaker 4: comedic of course. But the bit was that I was

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Speaker 4: the worst actor there, which was devastating. After it, you know,

665
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Speaker 4: I earned my BFA. I got the chance to be

666
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Speaker 4: in a big movie that I was making.

667
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: I have a BFA two. By the way, Really, University

668
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: of Washington, did you finish? I did? Really? I did?

669
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: I finished. I was there, I did the three year training.

670
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: I actually left a few months early to go got

671
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: a job at Ashland the Shakespeare Festival.

672
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: Started working.

673
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I started working right right out right out of

674
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: the out of the gate, which is really good.

675
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: Make it five hundred dollars a month. Yes, that's pretty

676
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: I mean out of school. It was pretty good.

677
00:27:59,400 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: It's prettyod.

678
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty two, I started recess therapy and they were

679
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 4: offering me two hundred dollars an episode. I started and

680
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 4: that was like, I like literally couldn't believe it.

681
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: And it would take me like a week of work

682
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: to make.

683
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: I would be like like hour for hours in the

684
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: sun gathering material.

685
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: You want to talk about my wallet?

686
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.

687
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: What do you want to know?

688
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: I want to know because I'm I'm really intrigued with

689
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: this because I would also like not look.

690
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: This is my wall.

691
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 3: So I get as small as I possibly can. I

692
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: know there's a smaller version, but I'm sure you have

693
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: ears is on your phone. I'm gonna show you something, Okay,

694
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: show me what I can do?

695
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: This is my phone. This is my phone background.

696
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect throwing a town, great likeness.

697
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: So with Apple Intelligence, you can never So I here

698
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: are my cards?

699
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: Okay?

700
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well one time I posted back of my

701
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: credit card on Instagram and it was not buddy, and

702
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: then I keep my ID just back here, you tucket

703
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: back there. And then if I go to a cash

704
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: only restaurant one time I had to look at you know,

705
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: you can track your friends. Yes, I saw who was

706
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: around and I called and I said I need And.

707
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: You could have just gone to the bank, you know,

708
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: I didn't.

709
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: I don't have any cards on me my name.

710
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so you couldn't. But you can do. Can you

711
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: not do the tap touch list or if you cut?

712
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Maybe I actually bet you cult chase.

713
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: I think you can do it.

714
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wallets are for suckers, and.

715
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: Listen, look at me. I'm a sucker.

716
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: Do you have anything silly in your wallet? I used

717
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: to carry like a Pokemon card really, which one shinks?

718
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 6: Yes?

719
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: What?

720
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 5: Yes?

721
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: You don't know that one. That's like I don't even know.

722
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: That my son started playing Pokemon.

723
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I first started, you know, when Ganguar was

724
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 3: like the first thing.

725
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: See huge huge. Who's your starter?

726
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: My starter? My first Pokemon?

727
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the couple to start.

728
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't think I have anything fun in here.

729
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: You have a Crisp one hundred in the back.

730
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: I do. I wish I had my library card. That

731
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: would be really fun. Did you ever have a library card?

732
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: I did as a child. Yeah, I wish I still

733
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: had one.

734
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: But now, I like, I honestly feel some onus to

735
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: like support local bookstores. Oh like, I feel like that's

736
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 4: such a struggling agree industry that I'm like, I agree,

737
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 4: but libraries are also important. I don't know, it's honestly,

738
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 4: it's a lose Liz.

739
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are going to take a break, but when

740
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: we come back, we're going to have a special program.

741
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: And I might just reveal my surprise and a surprise.

742
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: So stay with us.

743
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: We're back.

744
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, We're back for finger Puppet friend time. No

745
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: idea what's going to happen? So you're a big puppet fan?

746
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: Yes, going, I was really obsessed puppetry as a kid.

747
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: My mom grew up with John On Henson, who was

748
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 4: Jim's son. They were like high school friends, so she

749
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: grew up going to Jim Henson, who, for those not

750
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 4: in the know, created the Muppets as Same Street, labyrinths

751
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: Ark Crystal, among other things. And so my mom was like,

752
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: grew up with that magic and raised me with that magic.

753
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: And then when I was thirteen, I was like, fuck it,

754
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a puppeteer. And I came pretty darn

755
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: close to.

756
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Go was there a specific type of puppet that like

757
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: Muppet style?

758
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: Okay?

759
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: Okay?

760
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: And then I was like, the truth is it was

761
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: like a very lonely thing to do as a thirteen

762
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: year old, Like it was just hours in my basement

763
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: making all my own friends sort of troubled.

764
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: And by making friends, I mean like puppet friends. Yeah, showing.

765
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: So then I went to comedy improv. So we're from

766
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: what I understand, I feel as though you're justice in

767
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: the dark as eye. I think we're just gonna do

768
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: kind of some long, short, medium form improv.

769
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah talking maybe as the puppets are shoking about a subject.

770
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see. Yeah.

771
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: I brought I knew that this is happening, and I

772
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: brought some puppets that I made as a thirteen year old.

773
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: It's not very sophisticated.

774
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: It could be fun.

775
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: Kyle Kyle, show us yours ours looks small and losory, but.

776
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: We are Yeah, we are small and insignificant, but we

777
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: have cool cat.

778
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: Have cool cat, chicky baby.

779
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, ooh the microphone or the entertainer another entertainer.

780
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: Wow, they Yeah, we have these three cat orchestra prompt.

781
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: They're a little their little piece of paper.

782
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, sandworms in space.

783
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 6: That sounds kind of cool.

784
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 7: But is this an iracus specific it's sandworm or just

785
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 7: a beetlejuice sandworm?

786
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 6: I think it could be any kind of sandworm.

787
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 7: You know, the first sand worm I ever met was

788
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 7: a fantastic fellow.

789
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 6: Gave gave me a whole new meaning to the word

790
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 6: sand worm.

791
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 7: They get a bad rap out there, but really they're

792
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 7: just trying to do their best.

793
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 6: They really are.

794
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: They really are.

795
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 7: It's not How would you feel if you were a

796
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 7: thousand foot long tube?

797
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 6: I would I would feel very free.

798
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Actually, oh wow, yes.

799
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: I would feel like I'm in my tube and I'm

800
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: exploring this sand wherever I go. I don't even know

801
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: what kind of voice I'm doing, but now needs a

802
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: cool cat. Yes, I'm a cool cat. I love the

803
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: idea of a sand worm. The idea of writing a

804
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: sandworm would be even more special. How do you do that?

805
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 6: There's you could do hooks, you could do suction coups.

806
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: I have claws.

807
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 6: Yes?

808
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: Do you have my wall?

809
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: Oh?

810
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 6: I see, yes you do? Oh you yeah? Perfect? Well

811
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 6: I could I could grab on and then throw you

812
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 6: a rope. Ah, yes, let's climb. I would I would

813
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 6: love that. Fantastic writing. Should we not lext prompt? Yes?

814
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: Shall I go? Oh? This is good?

815
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 6: Mm?

816
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 2: You look hungry?

817
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 7: Excuse me? Oh sorry, sorry, I'm just enjoying my newspaper

818
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 7: this morning.

819
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I wondered if you might join me. I'm ordering

820
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: a slice of pie?

821
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: What type?

822
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 6: Oh?

823
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: Pie?

824
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: Well, I like cherry pie. But do you have a favorite.

825
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 7: I'd have to say I like a cherry pie panther.

826
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: Oh oh yes, that sounds really good.

827
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 6: Come over, come over here, come over, so yeah, tell me.

828
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: Do you have the coordinates?

829
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: Yes? I do?

830
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 3: Seventeen okay, dash okay, fourteen great, dash too great.

831
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: He'll be dead by morning.

832
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: Yes, he will never know, he'll never know what hit him.

833
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: No, it'll be a cherry he'll be a pie fest. Yes,

834
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: we're going to bounce with a pie. Yes, well, death

835
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: by Cherry and scene.

836
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: And see all right our prompt as Bodega Princess.

837
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 6: I love Princess. My microphone was slip just a little bit,

838
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 6: gonna keep moving my mouth when.

839
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: They would you like to order anything, sir?

840
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

841
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, this is a special place for me. I

842
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 6: have my favorite every every time. Do you have anything sparkly?

843
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

844
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, uh can we get out of my uh

845
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: uh chop cheese making?

846
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 6: No chop cheese, that's too violent.

847
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 7: Massage to caress cheese cheese? Yeah, puts put some uh

848
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 7: sprinkle sprinkles, sparkles, Yeah, make a pretty style, Yeah, a

849
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 7: little confettie spark.

850
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: Let's get a t R on that.

851
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

852
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, gr would be so good.

853
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: I'm so good.

854
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 6: And is there any other any slippers?

855
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

856
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 7: You got some some some some some slippers.

857
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 6: On that toe. We're gonna make that, make it the

858
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 6: pretty way. Yeah, pink pink is possiblely good, pink pink slippers. No, no, no,

859
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 6: pink no shoot maybe no, I'm sorry midnight purple. They

860
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 6: don't work. Yeah, that's my second. All right, very good,

861
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 6: I'm ready, all right, we got it. Okay, thanks, I'm

862
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 6: going to enjoy this.

863
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fantastic.

864
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 6: I'm about dake a cat. No really, yeah, I thought

865
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 6: you were extinct. They led people to believe that.

866
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 7: But there's all the community of us where.

867
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 6: You live in the in the show, so no one

868
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 6: can see you. Look. Oh I am I know you're

869
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 6: maybe royalty. Some have told me yes, actually I am

870
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 6: my parents. Do you have any salmon?

871
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 7: Oh?

872
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 6: Salmon? No, that I do, But it's very expensive. Yeah,

873
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 6: I want to resell it.

874
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 7: Okay, the resell value is insane on fish fresh.

875
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: It's very fresh. Okay, so I think you'll get a

876
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: good price. All right, let me send over my guy, please. Yeah,

877
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: I don't know about this.

878
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 6: This is an old show. It's a complete show guy.

879
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: Oh wait you look.

880
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 7: No, I'm new.

881
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 6: Oh the ears gave it away.

882
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 7: I do fish resell.

883
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 6: Oh wow, did you go to school for that?

884
00:36:59,400 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Of course?

885
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 6: Wow?

886
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 7: You but also sense for you because don't mess.

887
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look really dangerous. I bet you're a good

888
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: fission seller. Gimme all right, hang on a second, let

889
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: me get it. Okay, it's a small piece, but it's good.

890
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna love it.

891
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: Have a good day.

892
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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 6: I used to work with you pleasure. See all right, yeah, goodbye.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much for Julian for being here

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Speaker 3: with me on what are We even doing?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing next? Then?

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Speaker 4: I just finished a book that I wrote that's coming

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Speaker 4: out in summer twenty six hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations. That's all we have time for today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's more time in the day than not

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 6: But not for us.

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Speaker 3: Actually we've got to go, but I want to thank

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Speaker 3: you all for joining us. I don't know what accent

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Speaker 3: I'm doing, but it's an accent and fantastic Thank you

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Speaker 3: for joining us to help us solve the greatest.

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Speaker 1: Miss Thank you for having me ky oh.

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Speaker 2: It is a great, great pleasure. I don't know we

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Speaker 2: found out what are we even doing?

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Speaker 1: But it's a little closer.

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Speaker 2: We certainly did.

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Speaker 6: It's a real pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Well sah, thank you a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: What Are We Even Doing? Is a production of iHeartMedia

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Speaker 2: and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle

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Speaker 2: McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture Productions Yay,

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Speaker 2: featuring music by Yata and artwork by Danica Robinson.

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Speaker 3: For more information about the podcast, please visit our Instagram

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Speaker 3: and TikTok at wawed with Kyle, Please rate, review, and

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Speaker 3: subscribe to What Are We Even Doing on Apple, Spotify, YouTube,

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Speaker 3: or anywhere you get your podcasts.

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