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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, beautiful young, her whole life

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Speaker 1: in front of her. We will always remember the name

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Speaker 1: of Gabby Petito. May she rest in peace, but her

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Speaker 1: case is not over yet. In the last days, a

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Speaker 1: stunning turn of events. I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation

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Speaker 1: and Sirius XM one eleven. First of all, a very

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Speaker 1: eerie and disturbing photo emerges of Gabby Potito. She's bruised

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Speaker 1: so called domestic incident. And why is it called a

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Speaker 1: domestic incident? Domestic seems like, I don't know, somebody's home

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Speaker 1: and maybe someone's cooking a wonderful dinner and you're all

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Speaker 1: a domestic incident. Gabby Potito is crying with a black eye,

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Speaker 1: a bloodied face. A new photo showing the slain Long

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Speaker 1: Island girl Gabby Potito with blood smeared across her face.

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Speaker 1: Now this is just weeks before Gabby Potito is found

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Speaker 1: dead in Wyoming dispersed camping, far far away from a

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Speaker 1: Brian Laundry, her so called fiancee. Remember the two had

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Speaker 1: but no Gabby. This photo was taken after a so

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Speaker 1: he would do this on main street near Moab, what

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Speaker 1: I think we know the answer to that. Kill her.

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Speaker 1: That is what happened to Gabby Petito. She was bludgeoned

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Speaker 1: the photo was taken by Gabby herself. Gabby took this selfie. Horrible,

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Speaker 1: Moab police, she's beaten. After this beating, decide that she

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Speaker 1: right now. The Potito family now suing Roberta and Christopher Laundry,

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Speaker 1: Brian Laundry's parents for oh and their lawyer, Bertolini, for

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Speaker 1: intentional infliction of emotional distress. Why because of a letter

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Speaker 1: that has emerged from FBI files that was taken out

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Speaker 1: But where was her boyfriend? The fiance that she traveled

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Speaker 1: to juries all the years I tried fell any cases.

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Speaker 1: You can't turn away. You cannot turn away from the truth.

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Speaker 1: It's our duty to look at the truth and determine

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Speaker 1: what is just Joining me an all star panel to

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Speaker 1: make sense of what we know right now. But first

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Speaker 1: ABC seven. Two heartbroken families now taking the battle to court.

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Speaker 1: More than six months after the murder of Gabby Potito,

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Speaker 1: her parents, Joseph Potito and Nicole Schmidt, are now suing

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Speaker 1: Ryan Laundry's family. The civil laws, who filed in Florida

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Speaker 1: their son had murdered Gabby on or around August twenty

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Speaker 1: After several weeks of visiting national parks, Brian returned to

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Speaker 1: all that time the family was left hanging blood in

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Speaker 1: after a euphemistically described domestic incident where her so called

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Speaker 1: We knew that the family members of Gabby Petito, the

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Speaker 1: It is a civil lawsuit filed against Christ and ROBERTA. Laundry.

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Speaker 1: And while there is not a ton of evidence listed

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Speaker 1: Chris Laundry and Roberto Laundry spoke with their attorney, Steve

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Speaker 1: First of all, talk news like drinking from a fire hydra.

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Speaker 1: can't take Laura gamp And I bring this up only

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Speaker 1: when I'm projecting, But Laura, I remember when my fiancee

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Speaker 1: was murdered. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep. I lost

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Speaker 1: down to eighty nine pounds. The smell of food made

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00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: me sick just to smell it. I remember the first

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Speaker 1: thing I finally ate or consumed. It was a glass

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Speaker 1: of orange juice as the first thing that did not

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00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: make me literally nauseous after Cath murder. So how and

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Speaker 1: the h E double L? Is this a family knowing

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00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: that Gabby is dead and being torn up part by

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00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: animals out in the rain, lying there on the dirt.

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Speaker 1: How could they go to a campout? How could they

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Speaker 1: do that? There's no explanation, There's none none. None of

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00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: us on this panel, nobody listening could even imagine doing

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00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: what they did right if they knew, and it looks

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00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: like they did, how could you? You're absolutely right, And

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00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: it is a point that I believe that Petito Schmidtz

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00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: will hope will come out in court. They want to

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00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: get to a courtroom because there's more. There's more information

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00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: that obviously wasn't released by the FBI, that wasn't released

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Speaker 1: in the investigation. People want to know more and if

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Speaker 1: they can and if they can push the civil lawsuit

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Speaker 1: and get into that next level. This is a first

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Speaker 1: Volley time Stories with Nancy grace in the last days

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00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: of multiple lawsuits being filed against Moab police and against

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00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Brian Laundry's parents and lawyer. As a photo of Gabby

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00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: Petito emerges. She is bruised, bloody, crying, and even after

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00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: this beating at the hands of Brian Laundry, Moab police

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00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: still say she is the aggressor and did ROBERTA. Laundry

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00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: send a letter to her son Brian claiming she would

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Speaker 1: show up with a shovel or loan him a shovel

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Speaker 1: and help bury a body, help get him out of prison,

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Speaker 1: and striking him to burn after reading the letter. According

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Speaker 1: to the FBI, there is such a letter. Is that

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Speaker 1: grounds to support a lawsuit by the Potitos against the Laundries.

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Speaker 1: After all, this family, the Potito family, has been through

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Speaker 1: lawsuits flying a horrific and haunting selfie emerging of Gabby

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00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: Potito beaten and bloody. That's how she looked apparently when

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00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: she was pulled over along with Laundry by Moat police,

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Speaker 1: but they let the two go on their way and

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Speaker 1: she ends up dead. Experts could easily have predicted that

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Speaker 1: the fiance so coll fiance Brian Laundry, who is now

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00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: known to have killed Gabby. Petito murdered her, bloods into her,

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Speaker 1: strangle to her, and left her body to decompose in

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Speaker 1: the elements. Her family is now suing his family, claiming

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Speaker 1: they knew for a long time that Gabby was dead

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Speaker 1: and refused to tell the parents anything. In fact, the

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Speaker 1: warning law enforcement and the family as well take a

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Speaker 1: listen to our cut for our friends at Fox thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Police in Northport said they'd not gotten cooperation as to

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Speaker 1: whether they knew anything about where Gabby was, but the

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Speaker 1: Laundries did tell police Brian had not returned from the

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Speaker 1: reserve where he was eventually found dead. But the new

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00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: lawsuit alleges the Laundries had been making arrangements for Brian

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Speaker 1: to leave the country. Their family attorney denied the allegations,

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Speaker 1: saying the lawsuit does not change the fact that the

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Speaker 1: Laundries had no obligation to speak to law enforcement or

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Speaker 1: any third party, including the Potito family. This fundamental legal

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00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: principle renders the Potito's claim to be baseless. Under the law,

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Speaker 1: do we have a legal system where people are punished

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Speaker 1: civilly for not cooperating with criminal investigations. The lawsuit does

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Speaker 1: not say how the Potitos learned of the facts they allege,

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00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: but they did have several meetings with investigators, including at

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Speaker 1: the Tampa FBI office. After the investigation it was closed.

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Speaker 1: The Potito family attorneys said there were multiple conversations between Brian,

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Speaker 1: his parents, and their lawyer before he left Wyoming August thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: So jos got morgan if we weren't half wrong, right,

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: because they were trying to get him out of the

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00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: country exactly what we had thought was going on. Yeah, push,

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Speaker 1: push push. I you know, I had all kinds of ideas,

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Speaker 1: you know, back then, thinking about how could they facilitate

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Speaker 1: Remember when they were at that camping area. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think a couple of us had thought that maybe

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Speaker 1: by water, you know, how are you going to get

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Speaker 1: him out of the reach of the US authorities, to

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Speaker 1: get him spirited awesomewhere. We were thinking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: him leaving with gobs of cash so that he could

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Speaker 1: fall off of the radar, relative to using any kind

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00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: of credit cards, which of course he had stolen gabbies

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00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: and utilized it, and just you know, go abroad with

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Speaker 1: US currency and try to make that happen. But how

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00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: do you make that happen. I think that that's one

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00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: of the big problems here when you have somebody that

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00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: is not sophisticated in a way that the criminals work.

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00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: You know, they don't know, you know, how how are

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00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: we going to get him away from all of this trouble.

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00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, and at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day they knew where his body was.

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious as to what that final conversation was

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Speaker 1: like with him, you know, did did he actually did

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Speaker 1: he actually tell them? You know, Mom, Dad, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to go out here and end it

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00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you specifically where it was.

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Speaker 1: Think about what Max said and what you said within

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes, Nancy, in this vast area and it

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00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: is vast, yeah, and where by the way, let me

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00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: remind everybody we've forgotten about this group of people. They've

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00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: put all of the searchers at risk out here, alligator snakes,

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00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: dehydration for days, for days, and they put these people

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: out there at risk and they walk right to the

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Speaker 1: body and all of this evidence and Nancy, I gotta

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Speaker 1: say one more thing. The most striking piece of evidence

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00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: to me, and it's just the old death investigator in me.

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Speaker 1: Out of everything, you know, we had skeletal remains, we

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00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: had this weapon that we talked about. But one of

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Speaker 1: the things that just made me want to bite the

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Speaker 1: head off a tenpenny nail is that out there at

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Speaker 1: that scene they found adjacent to his body red ball cap.

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Speaker 1: You know what that red ball cap said, It said

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00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: moab Roasters. I wonder where he bought that. Out of

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00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: all the hats he could have chosen, that's the one

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00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: that he picked up as he was walking out that

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Speaker 1: door for the final time. And he went out there

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Speaker 1: and he took that hat, and I think that hat

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00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: left out there was a great, big old screw you

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Speaker 1: to everybody. That's what I think. That's where he was

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Speaker 1: caught beating Gabby out on the street as we all know,

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Speaker 1: you know to Laura Ingle, senior correspondent Fox and he's

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Speaker 1: joining us, Laura. I believe that in point number fourteen,

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Speaker 1: paragraph number fourteen, the date is pinpointed the murder being

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Speaker 1: August twenty seventh. I wonder if that's because that's the

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Speaker 1: last day that her mother and Nicole Schmidt spoke with her.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I do believe it's that and

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00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: it also coincides with their sightings. And remember the Moab

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00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: incident happened, that's been so widely watched with the police

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00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: BODYKAM footage. But then they make their way and they're

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Speaker 1: in Jackson. I went to this place. It's the Mary

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Speaker 1: Piglets in it's restaurant that it was a last known

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00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: public sighting and we don't know what happened, and we've

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Speaker 1: been trying to get our hands on any security footage

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Speaker 1: of this restaurant. But there was some kind of a fight,

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00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: some kind of an altercation between Brian and Gabby, an argument.

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00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: They were last seen and so I and I stood there.

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Speaker 1: So you're standing at the restaurant and you look down

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00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: the long road, and down that long road is where

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00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: the camp ground was. So they were at this restaurant,

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00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: they have an argument, they get in the car, the van,

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Speaker 1: they go down to the campground, they turn in, they

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Speaker 1: set up camp. Then you know, the other bloggers fought

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Speaker 1: the van, which helped us locate where they were. But

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Speaker 1: it's that last those are the last moment. There was

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Speaker 1: something going on on that date on August twenty seventh,

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Speaker 1: during the day, and then it was later that night

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Speaker 1: that that's when they believe. And there's forensics involved here too,

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Speaker 1: and in terms of her body, where she was found,

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00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: how she was found, that it all ties together that

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Speaker 1: August twenty seventh is the date that she died. I

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Speaker 1: want you to listen to our cut eleven and this

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Speaker 1: is JBB you know at WFLA News Channel eight. Listen

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Speaker 1: to this point number twenty five. On September fourteen, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, with full knowledge that Gabrielle Potito had been

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Speaker 1: murdered by their son, Christopher Laundry, and ROBERTA. Laundry, through

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Speaker 1: their lawyer, issued the following statement, quote unquote, it is

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Speaker 1: our understanding that a search has been organized for miss

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Speaker 1: Potito in or near Grand Titan National Park in Wyoming,

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Speaker 1: on behalf of the Laundry family. It is our hope

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Speaker 1: that the search for miss Potito is successful and that

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Speaker 1: Miss Potito is reunited with her family. Point number twenty

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Speaker 1: nine and point number thirty. As Laura Ingalls told us,

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Speaker 1: full knowing their son had murdered Gabby, they give a

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Speaker 1: public statement. Wow, I hope they find her. I just

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Speaker 1: can't wait till this goes to a jury. We wait

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Speaker 1: as just as some falls fancy Grace Crime's Toye signing

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Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,