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Speaker 1: they are whist So, yeah, it's too bad, But what

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Speaker 1: don't you expect? It's a podcast called twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Whistles twenty wine. Hello, welcome. It could be our last

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Speaker 2: show ever. What do you mean why it could be?

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Speaker 3: No, like somebody dies over the weekend. What do you mean.

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Speaker 2: Our contract runs through the super Bowl, then it's over.

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Speaker 3: No one told me this.

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Speaker 2: It's always been that.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. All right, boys, make it the best

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Speaker 4: Originally.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like last year we did like seventy for twenty

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Speaker 5: five and this year we signed double then last year

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Speaker 5: meaning double episodes fifty even we did more than that,

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Speaker 5: and it was all the way up until the super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: This is probably unless they renew last year. We renewed

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Speaker 5: up until NCAA basketball. But I've not hurt anything about that.

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Speaker 3: We'll get on it, man, I made every call.

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Speaker 2: Really, it's super Bowl week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're busy.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to get hold anybody. So this could be

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Speaker 2: the last show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, it's been good.

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Speaker 3: You want me to blow it one last time?

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 5: I thought you said best ever, but now I'm like,

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Speaker 5: it's could be our last. Who cares well, what a

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Speaker 5: way to go out there. Two times Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 5: Tony Casi is on with us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's coming up.

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Speaker 5: And also Paul Mills, head coach of Wichitall State Basketball

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Speaker 5: and assistant coach Quincy Acy who played in the NBA

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Speaker 5: for a bunch of teams and guard Xavier Bill.

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Speaker 2: So that's coming up. So we're gonna have a heck

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Speaker 2: of a possibly last show.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not Okay, I do not know.

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Speaker 2: Give me send a message right now.

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Speaker 3: And ask please just say like, hey, we're wondering what

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Speaker 3: to do. We're recording our last show right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh we're not wondering what to do.

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Speaker 8: I know what to do.

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Speaker 2: Just do the show.

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Speaker 3: Oh what do you mean? We still just do it?

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Speaker 2: You want to just quit mid mid. I don't understand

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Speaker 2: what we do different.

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Speaker 3: Someone tells me, hey, you're gonna die like in the

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Speaker 3: next thirty minutes, I'd be like, cool, all right, see, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you just.

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Speaker 2: Said do the best show ever. Then you blew the whistle,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, you're all over.

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Speaker 3: It changed my mind quickly.

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Speaker 5: Hold on, hey man, it's uh after ten here Ceral time.

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Speaker 5: I don't know where you are, if you're in Vegas

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Speaker 5: for the super Bowl yet or not. We are doing

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Speaker 5: our very last twenty five whistles that we know of.

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Speaker 5: I'm with all the guys now and they were a

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Speaker 5: bit shocked. This is our last show unless you have

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Speaker 5: heard that we're getting renewed at all for any weeks

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Speaker 5: or for NCAA basketball. If you have any new information,

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Speaker 5: please let us know. And I'm sitting with them now.

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Speaker 5: Anything you want to say, Yeah, we need it, man,

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Speaker 5: we need more episodes.

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Speaker 6: We're not done yet.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 8: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: I won't to have a job. Who was there? Who

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Speaker 2: was that mister Drapkings was mister oh well, that's cool

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Speaker 2: for sure?

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Speaker 3: In Vegas.

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Speaker 5: It was actually Kevin Lagrette, who was head of iHeartRadio

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Speaker 5: Sports from Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what's up.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know who he is.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's go to what's possibly the final tittle tattle?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, all right, let's go even do it.

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Speaker 2: The last tattle. Read's now jumping into it, redoing it.

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Speaker 2: Never ever does you talk? And now he jumps in.

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Speaker 2: He's losing it.

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Speaker 9: We're going crazy. Well, super Bowl weekend it's here. What

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Speaker 9: is your favorite headline heading into the big game?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I got mine?

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Speaker 5: Well, so the headlines, for example are Taylor Kelsey, Will

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Speaker 3: That's a big one.

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is if he wins again, will he be

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Speaker 5: the greatest of all time? Just getting there?

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Speaker 2: Rock party? Is he legit or not?

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Speaker 3: I like that one.

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Speaker 5: Andy Reid chasing Belichick the same way that Mahomes is

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Speaker 5: in that conversation for sure. Kyle Shanahan back at it

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Speaker 5: after one lost Super Bowl last time, but also twenty

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Speaker 5: his vindication. Ish the two top defenses. My favorite storyline.

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Speaker 3: Of all of that A lot to choose from.

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Speaker 5: What interests me the most. I guess my favorite storyline

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Speaker 5: is will I win this money? Because I haven't cashed

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Speaker 5: out of it?

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Speaker 3: You haven't seen that storyline, the headline.

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Speaker 2: It's mine though, because I did all these futures on

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Speaker 2: Kansas City.

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Speaker 6: Is that up anywhere?

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Speaker 3: No, man, it's in Bobby's Bobby's publication.

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Speaker 5: It's a story that I'm doing now in my head.

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Speaker 5: I was like, what most interests me about this game?

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Speaker 5: It's that I have all these futures on Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: I haven't made any bets on the game itself, and.

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Speaker 3: You haven't cashed out any of those.

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Speaker 2: I've done a couple of prop bets. I've not cashed

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Speaker 3: We told you what to do. Is it just a

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Speaker 2: No, it's not. But a lot of times when you

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, And that's why I asked.

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Speaker 3: When we see the outcome, You're like, I good call.

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Speaker 5: Who do you think wins the game? Because mine is

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Speaker 5: there's no points mine was just a future to win

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Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs win the game.

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Speaker 2: That's what most people think.

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Speaker 3: That's my prediction. Yeah, except Vegas, except Vegas. You're right, correct, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who wins the game?

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Speaker 6: The Chiefs?

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Speaker 6: I hot and say the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: You just put it on the quarterback, you think.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, at the end of the day, like like what

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Speaker 6: what what do you say around here?

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Speaker 8: Gott to be the man.

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Speaker 5: You gotta beat the man exactly. Also, can't City's defense,

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Speaker 5: although young, they're really good. I have one cash out

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Speaker 5: that I could do right now for one thy ninety

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Speaker 2: That's the one we told you. I just think I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Roll, Yes, roll dogget.

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Speaker 4: With raw Doggett.

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Speaker 9: All right, next question, all right, do you think Kyle

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, Andy reads in the category of is he

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Speaker 5: like now read, who would you say it was a

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Speaker 5: better quarterback, knowing what you know, Eli Manning two super

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like who would you have as your quarterback? But

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Speaker 2: I've heard better things about Dan Marino. You've heard better things. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would say Peyton's better than Eli, right, yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about Eli and Dan. Right, let's comparison.

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Speaker 5: All I would say is a lot of people don't

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Speaker 5: greatest ever because he has no rings. Charles Barkley same thing,

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Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl twice falcons of Niners. He's reached

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Speaker 5: the greatest offensive minds. None owns a guy that makes

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Speaker 3: It's got to be much easier for Andy Reid too.

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Speaker 3: When your quarterbacks Patrick Mahomes, you got Shanahan, You're just

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Speaker 5: To be fair Andy Reid's quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes, because Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 5: Andy Reid, meaning all these quarterbacks and Andy Reid systems

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Speaker 2: They always that's you want to be in his system?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I didn't really.

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Speaker 9: But until like when they won it four years ago.

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Speaker 9: Now he had that monkey on his back too, Andy Reid.

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Speaker 9: You know, he went to the NFC Championship what four

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Speaker 9: years in row with the Eagles, couldn't get it done,

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Speaker 9: and then they lost to the who oh the Patriots? Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I think right, ye, No, four.

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Speaker 5: We don't care, we don't hate the Patriots, and not

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Speaker 5: really prove him. Man, it's the last show and you're

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Speaker 5: being all spiteful tittle tattle.

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Speaker 9: Next, all right, the quarterback is a heavy favorite to

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Speaker 9: win the MVP. But if you had to pick one

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Speaker 9: non QB, who would it be easy?

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Speaker 5: I know McCaffrey is the dude that probably is gonna

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Speaker 5: get the ball and it will be the factor. However,

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Speaker 5: I think that I think people would love for it

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Speaker 5: Kelsey to be the MVP.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I hope and if it's close, yes please no.

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Speaker 5: So the problem is, if Kansas City wins, Mahomes is

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Speaker 5: probably the MVP, and if San Francisco wins, most likely party,

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Speaker 5: but it also could be one of those other guys.

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Speaker 5: It could be anybody from AYUK or Debo. But for

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Speaker 5: Kansas City to have Kelsey be the MVP, is Kelsey

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Speaker 5: scoring like three touchdowns? Because if Mahomes throws three, Kelsey

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Speaker 5: catches all three. Kelsey is gonna get the benefit of

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Speaker 3: He's getting married.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna tire. And I don't know that he's

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Speaker 3: That's what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: They said that about every tailor romance.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, right, next up the last one. Let's do a

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Speaker 9: Usher is set to perform. So are you excited about Usher?

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Speaker 6: Would you like to see?

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Speaker 5: I don't want any of my favorite people to ever

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Speaker 2: They're playing?

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Speaker 2: It's not worth it.

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Speaker 5: I think like a Beaber or an ed Shearon would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would be cool, or like.

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Speaker 5: I just wouldn't do it if I were like somebody,

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Speaker 3: Well, they lip sync it too, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they turn it off when they're like thank

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 5: I think they also sing with their track sometimes too,

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Speaker 2: It first person ever.

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Speaker 7: Right now?

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Speaker 2: All right, that's the final tittle Tattle, Thank you stupid.

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Speaker 10: I like that.

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Speaker 5: over to our chat with two time Super Bowl champion Eddies.

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Speaker 5: Dude who you guys sat with him in the suite

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Speaker 5: at the Cowboys game.

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, Yes, it's awesome. I have his phone number.

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Speaker 2: And how you got him on the show. Yeah, got

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I told him all about what we do and everything.

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Speaker 3: He's like, cool, man's get me on your podcast. We'll see.

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Speaker 5: So he requested you and then you said we'll see dude,

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Speaker 5: and I said we'll see Elan.

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Speaker 2: That's not how it happened.

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Speaker 6: Yes, please, please come on our podcast.

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Speaker 4: Do we love It?

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Speaker 11: Tony.

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Speaker 5: Tony was a nose tackle who went back to back

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Speaker 5: he won a natural championship at Oklahoma, Big big Boomer,

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Speaker 2: Him and Eddy became best friends. Did you write this?

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Speaker 3: I did not, but that's a great description.

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Speaker 5: Him and Eddy became best friends, and they met in

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Speaker 5: during this. Okay, anyway, here he is at Tony Casillas.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Do you consider yourself or do you think that you

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Speaker 12: Well, I'll tell you what with my Super Bowl ring,

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Speaker 12: I'm just this old old guy with the Super Bowl ring.

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Speaker 12: And you know it's a funny thing about as a cowboy.

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Speaker 12: You're living in Dallas, and man, it's just been you know,

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Speaker 12: Dallas has been this toxic relationship for so many years.

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Speaker 12: I think everyone just hears the same thing and you

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Speaker 12: know it's going to change, But you never change, and

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Speaker 12: I think probably living in Dallas. You know, I've been

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Speaker 12: It's such an Unfortunately, as I mentioned, it's been so

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Speaker 12: we just have to reminisce about it the old times.

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Speaker 12: But I think, oh, you, football is something that always

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Speaker 12: I think when I go back to Oklahoma, yeah, a

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Speaker 12: that's where we're at now, which is not my it's

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Speaker 12: not my undoing. I tell everyone I have nothing to

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Speaker 5: So would you rather if you had to pick one, Oh,

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Speaker 11: Damn, that's a great question because you.

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Speaker 2: Only get one.

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Speaker 12: Uh Uh, I don't know. I think that's a great question.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Dallas. I think Oklahoma

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Speaker 12: because that's usually what everyone does. Our year, this is

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Speaker 11: But I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I think it's gonna be interesting. And you know this,

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Speaker 12: what's the bonds is what you know, Bobby, is that

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Speaker 12: my daughter went to Arkansas. So I'm a big Arkansas

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Speaker 12: gonna go with Dallas. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

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Speaker 12: continue on. It's gonna be our year, and damn, I

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Speaker 12: just want them.

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Speaker 11: I just want them to.

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Speaker 12: Go back while I'm still here. I mean, is that

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Speaker 3: That's not too much to ask. I think that's that's

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Speaker 3: that's perfect. But Tony, let me ask you this. You

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Speaker 11: But here's the thing. I remember.

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Speaker 12: You know, he got inducted the Ring of Honor, guys

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Speaker 12: And it's so vivid because hadn't changed. You know, Jimmy's older,

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Speaker 11: And who would have thought that that would have been

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Speaker 12: You know this quote that he said after the game

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00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 12: is beyond and you know, it just really sends what's

446
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,720
Speaker 12: chills down your spine because being in that moment and

447
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 12: understanding how vivid it was and to hear him say it,

448
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 12: you know, granted this has been thirty years ago and

449
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 12: now here it.

450
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,640
Speaker 11: Man, it's timeless.

451
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,680
Speaker 12: And the fact that he did it when Dallas was

452
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 12: getting blown out by Green Bay at the halftime, Like

453
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 12: why did they just kind of.

454
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 11: Plug it in the locker room?

455
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 12: So these guys, these these modern day players could hear

456
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 12: that because it doesn't change, man, it makes you move.

457
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 12: And so yeah, it's it's a vivid, vivid moment that

458
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 12: will never change. And he was just amazing communicator. He

459
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 12: just pulled those things out of nowhere and just here

460
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 12: we go thirty years later. That's and you'll hear that forever.

461
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Speaker 3: I've always wondered, you know, like how the announcers get

462
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 3: clarifications for like names, you know, and I'm Hispanic, and

463
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 3: I know that Garcia is a little easier, but Garcias

464
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 3: is like specific. My last name is did you have

465
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 3: to tell people over and over like all right, this

466
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Speaker 3: is how you pronounce it's not Cacilla's, like, this is

467
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 3: how you pronounce it.

468
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Speaker 10: Well, it's a.

469
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Speaker 12: Butcher name, without a doubt, and I expected. What's interesting

470
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Speaker 12: is like when I was growing up in Oklahoma, I

471
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 12: had sixty five first cousins, a big culture Hispanic family.

472
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 12: Dad had thirteen brothers and sisters. Do the math, Hispanic Catholic,

473
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 12: so kind of get the picture. So when I was

474
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Speaker 12: when I was in prejudice and was really relevant prevalent

475
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 12: in Oklahoma. And so it was funny because we lived

476
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Speaker 12: on the other We lived in the white neighborhood, so

477
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 12: to speak. We got out and then it really wasn't

478
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 12: this you know, it very middle class or maybe lower

479
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 12: middle class. But my grandparents lived on the other side.

480
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 12: And what would happen is every weekend, all of a sudden,

481
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 12: you know, it's like a small house. It's like one

482
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 12: or two room house, very small. I remember I could

483
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 12: touch the ceiling when I was like sixth grade, that's

484
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 12: how small the house was. So anyway, we had everyone

485
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 12: would come there with sixty five first cousins, grandparents, everything,

486
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 12: my kid, my, my, uh. You know, my dad never

487
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 12: spoke Spanish around me, but I know when he got

488
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 12: around my uncles, they started, you know, saying all these

489
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 12: corchina words. I knew they didn't want to sit here

490
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 12: what they were talking about. But anyway, when I went

491
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 12: over to my grandparents, they my uncles and aunts pronounce

492
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Speaker 12: their named Cassius. But then we went back over to

493
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 12: east side Tulsa, it went back to Casillas, and I'm thinking, okay,

494
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 12: well aren't we related. This is something to your brother,

495
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 12: and so he never did give me really an answer

496
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 12: that so it's Casillas. So everyone called me Casillas until

497
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 12: I got to college and I'm my following had a

498
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 12: hard heart conversation. I said, Dad, I said, why why

499
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 12: is a hard name pronounced different than my other family

500
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 12: as well?

501
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 11: I just wanted to make it sound more Anglo.

502
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 12: We're living in an area and I just didn't want

503
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 12: to hear all you guys have to go deal with

504
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 12: all the prejudice. And so that's when I went back

505
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 12: to Casillas. And you know, Obviously, people that knew me,

506
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 12: you know, thought that my name was Casillas for a

507
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 12: long time, and I said, now I corrected them. So,

508
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 12: but yeah, it's a very profound name. It's very I

509
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 12: know there's a lot more cassius is out there, but

510
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 12: uh it's probably one of the most butchered names, without

511
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 12: a doubt.

512
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Speaker 5: Whenever you're drafted by the Falcons, you play a few

513
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 5: years in Atlanta and you're you know, you head over

514
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 5: to Dallas. But Dallas wasn't good your first year's in Atlanta,

515
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 5: as a matter of fact, they were terrible. So when

516
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 5: you were going to Dallas, were you like, all right,

517
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 5: I'm about to get in on it, organizations, it's on

518
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 5: the way up.

519
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Speaker 2: Or were you like, I don't even know what's about

520
00:22:59,600 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: to happen.

521
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 12: No, I knew anything was good, but I knew anything

522
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 12: it was gonna be better than than uh th In Atlanta.

523
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 12: It was this toxic environment the organization. It was more

524
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 12: uh more just trying to make money and not spend

525
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 12: money to be good, and it just become this culture

526
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 12: of it was very toxic. And I just coming from

527
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 12: Oklahoma and winning. I know that you're the second player

528
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 12: picked in the draft and it's you. It's a huge honor.

529
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 11: You get paid. You know, back then, I thought it

530
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 11: was a lot.

531
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Speaker 12: I mean, it's still a lot of money, but you know,

532
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 12: the anyway, I knew that there's a lot of things

533
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 12: that come with that. For one, it's that you're gonna

534
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 12: be on a really crappy team, and I was. But

535
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 12: I think it was a culture.

536
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 11: There was not.

537
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 12: I think that that's kind of the misleading about people. Whenever,

538
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 12: you know, they think that they see these athletes playing

539
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 12: on different teams and how glamorous it is, and you know,

540
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 12: social media and everything. But I'll tell you what, you

541
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 12: get into that that routine of just going to work

542
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 12: and you've heard this all the time and just getting

543
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 12: a paycheck. I mean, all of a sudden, it becomes us.

544
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 12: It's contagious and everyone has that same attitude. Hey, we

545
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 12: don't we don't need to win. We can go four

546
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 12: and twelve and I'm gonna get ready for a vacation

547
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 12: when it's the tenth week in the season. So I

548
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 12: just didn't and I hated that, and so I you know,

549
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 12: I got traded, and I tell you, what's the best

550
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 12: thing going to happen to me. You mentioned Jimmy Johnson.

551
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 12: Jimmy Johnson, he saved my football career because you know,

552
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 12: Jay Dave One said, who I knew from high school

553
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 12: recruited me. I knew Jimmy, he was both they were

554
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 12: Oklahoma State, so they had some familiarity with me, and

555
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 12: so they saw the good in me. But I tell you, dude, man,

556
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 12: when I got to when I got to Dallas and

557
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 12: I got up playing, it was it was a night

558
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 12: and day, and people were excited. Even if they were bad,

559
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 12: they still had expectations because that was coming from the

560
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 12: new owner and I was coming from a coach, and

561
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 12: you just kind of knew it wasn't going to be

562
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 12: like that forever. These guys going to make something really

563
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 12: really special happening.

564
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 5: You beat Buffalo twice in a row. They ended up

565
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 5: losing two. They end up losing two more. After what loss,

566
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 5: did you start to feel bad for them?

567
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 10: No?

568
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 12: No, never, never, never, don't ever feel bad for the opponent. Look,

569
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 12: there's a reason why you know you got the rings

570
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 12: and they don't. I guess they give you a runner

571
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 12: up ring in the Super Bowl. But this is not

572
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 12: as good as the as the uh, you know, the

573
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 12: super Bowl, the Champion Ring and and I guess there

574
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 12: was some many. I mean, you go to the super

575
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 12: Bowl four times and you can't you don't have anything

576
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 12: to show for it. I guess I feel sorry to

577
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 12: the fans. I mean they got the best fans, But no,

578
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 12: I never feeling I don't really feel sorry for the loser.

579
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 11: I mean, I just I don't.

580
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 5: Whenever they were playing the Giants, or did you root

581
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 5: for Buffalo when you guys weren't in it because you

582
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 5: had played them, or did you have like a weird

583
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 5: taste because you played them and competed against them and

584
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 5: didn't like them.

585
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 11: Well, you never we hated people in the NCAST.

586
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 12: I mean, yet that's you got the Giants, you got Washington,

587
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 12: and you got the Eagles, So you all you hated

588
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 12: each other in that division.

589
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 11: Without a doubt.

590
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 8: You know.

591
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 11: Now I cheer for Buffalo.

592
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 12: I think it's it's been so long and as long

593
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 12: as Kansas City's and the AOC and you know, all

594
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 12: these other teams, they just for some reason that's kind

595
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 12: of the you know, that's uh, they can't ever get

596
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 12: over the winning the Big Game. And it's been for

597
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 12: a long time. And but yeah, I'm just like anyone else.

598
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 12: I love watching football. I'm I'm a huge fan. But yeah,

599
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 12: when it comes to playing a team and Phil and

600
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 12: so for me and you watch guys after the game,

601
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 12: maybe it's old school, you know, exchanging jerseys and you know,

602
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 12: after you get your ass kicked, and like really, I

603
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 12: mean you really want to you want my jersey after

604
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 12: I just kicked your ass, and and I hate, I

605
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 12: don't like that, but I guess that's just the way

606
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 12: it is in today's generation.

607
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 5: So with San Francisco and the Super Bowl and obviously

608
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 5: my memories, especially when you were playing it was Dallas

609
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 5: and San Francisco in the NFTY championship every year, it

610
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 5: felt like every year, right, And so do you still

611
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 5: have you know, this negative feeling just towards the brand

612
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 5: of the forty nine ers, not the people or the

613
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: organization or because they were a rival or as that

614
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: long gone as well.

615
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 12: You know what, I think there's certain when they're playing Dallas,

616
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 12: I think some of that stuff comes out.

617
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 10: And I think that.

618
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 12: You know, our success against the forty nine ers and

619
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 12: you just mentioned we played each other and it met something.

620
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 11: You know, it's gonna be the postseason play.

621
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 12: It's gonna be the forty nine Ers and the Cowboys

622
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 12: and all these historic matchups and everything that goes along

623
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 12: with it. But I mean, when I look at the

624
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 12: Super Bowl, I just think it's such an accomplishment that

625
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 12: teams get there because it's so hard to get there.

626
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 12: And I think we you know, there's a lot of

627
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 12: people that they have their teams and the teams they

628
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 12: chair for, and even for Buffalo in saying that, yeah,

629
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 12: I said, I feel sorry for him. But the fact

630
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 12: that you get you're able to get there is a

631
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 12: huge pomplishment and winning it. I mean, there's so many

632
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 12: things that have to happen for you to for you

633
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 12: to be able to get on that road of going

634
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 12: to Super Bowl. But you know, I look at the

635
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 12: forty nine Ers, The Raiders are probably the worst the

636
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 12: most aggressive fan base, I would say, and that would

637
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 12: be the Raiders and after that the forty nine Ers.

638
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 12: First of all, if anybody who invites you to go

639
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 12: to forty nine Ers Raiders game, don't go, man, a

640
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 12: good chance you're gonna get your ask you're or it

641
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 12: depends on which jersey are gonna wear. But I just

642
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 12: love watching I mean, there's so many great things these two.

643
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 12: You know, with San Francisco, you got a quarterback that

644
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 12: was drafted, last player picked in the draft and taking

645
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 12: his team to Super Bowl. So there's so many storylines

646
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 12: to it to not make you to want to make

647
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 12: you cheer for him just because of what their storylines are,

648
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 12: all right.

649
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: Three final questions.

650
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 5: Dan Quinn left defensive COORDA did a great job in Dallas,

651
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 5: but now he's gonna go and be the head coach

652
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 5: of the Commanders.

653
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: How big of a loss of the Cowboys is that.

654
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 11: I think it's a big loss.

655
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 12: I think that I think we all kind of knew

656
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 12: that Dan was going to be a head coach again

657
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 12: after Atlanta, and but I think that after that playoff

658
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 12: game and when Dallas lost the Green Bay there was

659
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 12: kind of some kind of decision making that was made

660
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 12: on the defensive side of the ball.

661
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 11: But I don't know.

662
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 12: I think that there's probably some things on that defense

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Speaker 12: we don't know about. I think that when you look

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Speaker 12: I think Micah Parson is a tremendous player.

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Speaker 11: But I think sometimes you may be a little selfish

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Speaker 11: and because you look.

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Speaker 12: In that game not to get too technical, the way

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Speaker 12: they're playing with on the nickel Pats, they're playing with

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Speaker 12: a lot of defensive backs.

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Speaker 11: They really didn't have a linebacker.

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Speaker 12: All their linebacker were decimated Leydon vander Ashy, he was injured,

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Speaker 12: so they really their their linebackers.

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Speaker 11: Just this appeared.

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Speaker 12: And I just don't think Micah the way he plays,

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Speaker 12: he wants to play up and make all these big plays,

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Speaker 12: and there's nothing wrong with that, but whenever you need

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Speaker 12: to solidify the core of your defense, you've got no

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Speaker 12: one to play. I just don't think guys really took

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Speaker 12: on that role. And I think Dan's gonna be a

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Speaker 12: tremendous a tremendous coach. Everyone I talked to been around

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Speaker 12: and he's this leader man, he's very defense is fun

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Speaker 12: to play and uh and and really the guy's really

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Speaker 12: he's the last three years you got to what he

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Speaker 12: did for the Dallass defense was amazing. And will it

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Speaker 12: hurt uh to a certain stoint, But I think that

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Speaker 12: there'll be a different philosophy, but but it'll be a

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Speaker 12: philosophy that's kind of similar to what they have now.

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Speaker 12: But I think he's going to be a tremendous tremendous coach.

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Speaker 12: I mean, Washington got their guy. I think he'll definitely

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Speaker 12: help turn that program around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, along with that Champ. You know people the fans

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Speaker 3: are always talking about like, oh.

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Speaker 2: I know he's a Champ, but you just it was

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Speaker 2: just like so actually super Bowl Tim, Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 3: Hey to be honest, when when we were listening to

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Speaker 3: let him continue, Hey, just a couple of cowboys fans

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Speaker 3: talking here. All right, Okay, so Champ, like I was saying,

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Speaker 3: so so, so you know, like a lot of the

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Speaker 3: fans love that. They blamed Dak, they blame Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 3: they blamed the coach, they blamed d like like Dan Quinn,

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Speaker 3: they blame all sorts of things, And I just feel like,

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Speaker 3: don't they know what they're doing, Like we don't know

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Speaker 3: what's going on in there? Like we they know what

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Speaker 3: they're doing. But you've been inside it too, Like is

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Speaker 3: that is that factual? To be inside the organization and

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Speaker 3: listen to fans listen to radio shows talk about what

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Speaker 3: the problem is and then you just listen to that

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Speaker 3: and say, like, that's not even close to what's happened here.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think that that's now with Uh, it was funny.

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Speaker 12: I asked Troy im I was doing a podcast doing

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Speaker 12: some hit on Instagram and and I was asking, so,

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Speaker 12: what would be the difference between now and you know,

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Speaker 12: when you played in the quarterback now for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 12: because I probably have about five million more followers on Instagram.

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Speaker 12: So the social media component has really changed things. Because

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Speaker 12: it's a brand. I think that that really it's kind

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Speaker 12: of a slippery slope for the brand, especially the Dallas

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Speaker 12: because I think that some guys just get all caught

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Speaker 12: up in that really didn't cut their teeth or do

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Speaker 12: anything to haven't won anything in the last thirty years,

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Speaker 12: and so it's a representation of what this brand brings

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Speaker 12: you as a player, and I think sometimes that kind

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Speaker 12: of gets lost in all the most important thing is

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Speaker 12: like you go out there and you're supposed to win,

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Speaker 12: and this is a franchise that's one in the past,

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Speaker 12: so it's your job to get us relevant. And I

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Speaker 12: think sometimes it gets lost with just hey, I'm a

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Speaker 12: Dallas Cowboy, I'm America's team. Forty million people watch this

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Speaker 12: last week, They're going to see me and then I'm

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Speaker 12: gonna And I think sometimes maybe for some guys and

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Speaker 12: it gets they get caught up in that. I think

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Speaker 12: that that's kind of something we're seeing with this team

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Speaker 12: because whenever you show up and you play in a

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Speaker 12: playoff game like they did against Green Bay and you

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Speaker 12: play awful on offense, on defense, every aspect, coaching was

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Speaker 12: horrific and was terrible, and then you expect people to

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Speaker 12: listen to what you have to say without any criticism.

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Speaker 11: And to me, you can't have it both ways.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 12: be criticized your play, or you played and you want

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Speaker 12: to be soft, then that's your problem. To me, I

746
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 12: think that that's kind of been a demise, certainly for

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Speaker 12: Dallas in the last few years, just because of that.

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Speaker 12: Because the brand's gotten so big without any without any validation,

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Speaker 12: validating hey, we're.

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Speaker 11: This good and it and you know this.

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Speaker 12: It makes people mad to hear America's team and like, hey,

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Speaker 12: you guys haven't done anything in years but.

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Speaker 11: Jerry's and Mark genius.

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Speaker 2: You are who you are.

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Speaker 5: You are America to My final question is more of

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Speaker 5: a statement. I got a text from my father in law,

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Speaker 5: massive ou fan. He said to tell you thanks for

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Speaker 5: the goal line stand against Texas and Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: He really appreciated that.

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Speaker 5: What do you remember about the goal line stands against

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Speaker 5: Texas and Nebraska?

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Speaker 12: Well, I remember the Texas game and tell you your dad,

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Speaker 12: your dad, right, just tell your dad that I'm still

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Speaker 12: my butt still heard about that game because we end

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Speaker 12: up losing. You know, the goal line stand was amazing

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Speaker 12: and that it was nineteen eighty four in the Cotton

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Speaker 12: Bowl Ou Texas game and we're just balling out and

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Speaker 12: during the duration of that game, there's so many plays

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Speaker 12: that we recovered far more we got takeaways, but we

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Speaker 12: didn't get the ball. We just didn't catch any of

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Speaker 12: the breaks we should have. Instant replay slammed up in

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Speaker 12: the game. Then we had the goal line stand and

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Speaker 12: we had to keep them out as miserable as and uh,

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Speaker 12: just this kind of a cool environment if you're a player,

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00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 12: just down and dirty. And they had the ball right

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Speaker 12: there on the goal line right there. I believe it

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Speaker 12: was fourth and or it was first in half of

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Speaker 12: half a yard to the score, and we stuffed them

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Speaker 12: four times, and ultimately that's how we ended up winning

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Speaker 12: the game. We're tying the game because we we ended

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Speaker 12: up taking a safety and then they got the ball

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Speaker 12: back and uh, we made an interception in the end

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Speaker 12: zone which was clearly two yards in bounds by Keith Stanberry,

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Speaker 12: and that would have changed the like we would have

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Speaker 12: won the game. But they were certainly they're very fortunate,

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Speaker 12: and they kicked the field goal and tied. So you know,

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Speaker 12: that really pissed me off, and I was really upset

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Speaker 12: about that.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 12: In the Nebraska game, you know, we played Nebraska, It's

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Speaker 12: always there was always something that was gonna happen big

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Speaker 12: at whoever won that game, and we needed to win

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Speaker 12: that game. In Norman, we stuffed in the same same

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Speaker 12: uh circumstances. It was one of these, uh you know,

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Speaker 12: you you can keep them mount the in zone or

796
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 12: we're not going there one spot playing for the national championship,

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Speaker 12: and we ended up stuff because you know what, we

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 12: were used to it. You know, it's a thing about it.

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Speaker 12: Tell people you get used to doing things and you

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Speaker 12: create that confidence that you're do. You think yourself can't,

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00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 12: you can't accomplish, and you do it once or twice.

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00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 12: You know what, We're gonna get confidence. And that's what

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00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 12: we did. We played with a lot of confidence, and hell,

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00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 12: we knew it was a state and we ended up

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Speaker 12: went out there and got it done.

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Speaker 5: Tony, we really appreciate the time. And Eddie appreciates your life. Yeah, thanks, Jim,

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Speaker 5: he really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: He appreciates you existing all and yeah, everything about you.

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Speaker 3: Actually.

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Speaker 5: So you guys follow Tony Casias at Tony Casias on Instagram.

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Speaker 5: Two time Super Bowl champion, and you know, let's go.

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Speaker 5: Let's go Chiefs. If you guys like, well, I have way,

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Speaker 5: I got a bunch of money on the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I bet a bunch of future.

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Speaker 5: I bet a bunch of futures like way a long

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Speaker 5: time ago on Kansas City. So we're looking at a

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Speaker 5: big payout if they happen to win.

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Speaker 2: So let's go Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I support my buddy, So let's go Chiefs.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, let's go cheef.

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Speaker 2: Let's go cheese.

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Speaker 11: Hey. So what I like is the prop bets. What

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Speaker 11: do you think what's the biggest prop bet for you?

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Speaker 2: Well, we were gonna we like the over under.

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Speaker 5: I think it's now it's like twenty one of the

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Speaker 5: first touchdown, the jersey the first person who scores, And

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Speaker 5: so we were laying out obviously Debo, but Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: But he's not gonna rush.

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Speaker 5: He has no rushing touchdowns the whole year, So I

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Speaker 5: don't know. To me, it feels like I'm gonna bet

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Speaker 5: the over on that and hope it's like a Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: But McCaffrey Brandon Ayuk is a low number two.

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Speaker 5: But like McCaffrey Kelsey, you know, I think those guys

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Speaker 5: are who I would bet on scoring.

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Speaker 2: That's that's our favorite one.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 12: I thought you were gonna do it over and under.

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Speaker 12: How many times are gonna shaw Taylor's You.

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Speaker 5: Know, I've learned not to really talk about that. You know,

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Speaker 5: I feel that the the power of the Swifties when

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 11: Not I'm sorry, I just had I had to throw

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Speaker 11: that out hey.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad you did. But swift you heard it.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't me.

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Speaker 5: Swifties and whatever number that is, it's going to be

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Speaker 11: Yeah. I love yeah, I love I love the prop bets.

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Speaker 12: We did a Super Bowl party before the's like twenty

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Speaker 12: five questions and you know how long the national anthem is?

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Speaker 12: How you know who they which coach are going to

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Speaker 12: show first? And you know which just this different thing

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Speaker 12: is pretty cool to the bet prop bets. But man,

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Speaker 12: I really appreciate you guys having me on here. This

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Speaker 12: is true and honor. I appreciate love your show, my

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Speaker 12: boy man. Thanks for the thanks for the Champ comments

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Speaker 12: that that that made by day.

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Speaker 2: You got it, Champ anytime, all right, Tony, see you

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Speaker 2: letter buddy, Peace out.

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Speaker 5: talk now with witch Toss State head coach Paul Mills

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Speaker 5: from our show Too Much Access. Coach Mills was an

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Speaker 5: assistant at Baylor for fourteen seasons before going to Oral

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Speaker 5: Roberts and now witch Toll State. He talked about his

889
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Speaker 5: inability to sit during games because of an old injury,

890
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Speaker 5: and we really liked him.

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Speaker 2: Good dude, here is coach Mills.

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Speaker 5: Coach, thanks for having us. We noticed there's a game

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Speaker 5: on now when we're here.

894
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Speaker 4: What's like ten am?

895
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Speaker 10: Yes?

896
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Speaker 5: Early, this game can't be live because you're not there.

897
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 5: So do you ever choose to show bad games? Or

898
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Speaker 5: is it only wins on the screen in the locker

899
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Speaker 5: room one?

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Speaker 13: I have no idea what game it is, So I'm

901
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Speaker 13: not responsible for that. But there's no reason in the

902
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Speaker 13: world to relive bad games. You know, you're probably trying

903
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 13: to relive good experiences. So I can promise you I've

904
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 13: been married for twenty six years. If my wife ever

905
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 13: asked me to watch our wedding video it actually went well.

906
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Speaker 13: If it had gone sideways, we wouldn't want to relive that.

907
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Speaker 13: So if a game's on, it's probably one we won. Okay,

908
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Speaker 13: so it's Saint Louis we win, Yeah, and we win

909
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 13: this for sure? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's good.

910
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: Do you ever see yourself in even a game you

911
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 5: win and you're kind of maybe, man, I wish I

912
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 5: would have reacted that way, Like I'm kind of embarrassed

913
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 5: by because I do it all the time. I always

914
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 5: embarrassing my own actions. You ever see you react to

915
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Speaker 5: something and you think, maybe maybe that's a little too much?

916
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: Yes, definitely.

917
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 13: I think any of us, as we're doing anything, we're like,

918
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 13: I could have handled that better.

919
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: And you know, it's just an issue of growth, right.

920
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 13: I think people who don't ever want to grow, they

921
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 13: think they're always perfect. But the people who can kind

922
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 13: of look introspectively and say, man, I could have tightened

923
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 13: this up, I could have responded better. I find myself

924
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 13: sometimes doing that with my own children, like we got

925
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Speaker 13: in ninety two on the history test instead of a

926
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Speaker 13: ninety five and not really, but you kind of do

927
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 13: that with your players, and you learn how to handle

928
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Speaker 13: things better.

929
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Speaker 5: Being a parent and being a coach similarities there, same thing.

930
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Speaker 4: A lot of encouragement.

931
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 13: You recognize when they're down, and you recognize when they

932
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 13: need to be encouraged. You recognize when things aren't going.

933
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: Well and you're asking them why.

934
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Speaker 13: And the reality is, I'm probably with these guys more

935
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Speaker 13: than I am some days with my own family. I mean,

936
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Speaker 13: I'm around these guys four hours every day, six days

937
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Speaker 13: a week, and then if you're traveling and playing games,

938
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 13: you're probably with them about ten twelve hours a day.

939
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 13: So you're around these guys quite a bit, and you

940
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 13: kind of recognize what works. Some guys are encouragement guys

941
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 13: and you got to tell them how good they're doing.

942
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 13: Other guys are challenge guys. I have little Man syndrome,

943
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 13: and so the more you challenge me, the more I

944
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 13: would kind of all right, I'll prove you wrong. And

945
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 13: so you kind of do you have to know all

946
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Speaker 13: the different personalities in the room and how to handle it.

947
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Speaker 4: But very similar. I'm a better coach because I'm a parent.

948
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Speaker 10: Yeah.

949
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Speaker 5: My next question was about leadership, and you talked about

950
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 5: a little bit there because it's on a one size

951
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 5: fits all with different personalities, even with me and my role,

952
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 5: and I have a big staff, and I have to

953
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 5: handle everybody a little differently based on the performance I

954
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 5: can get from them on how they like to be

955
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 5: communicated with where some players like to have it told

956
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 5: and something I just like to have dance around and

957
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 5: like to be soft with them. How do you how

958
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 5: long is the kind of figure out someone's communication style

959
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: and method?

960
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 13: Yeah, it takes a while, you know, you have to

961
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 13: spend a lot of time with them. We do a

962
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Speaker 13: thing called Mills Mills in my L L S M

963
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Speaker 13: E A L S H Mills Mills. Yeah, and so

964
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Speaker 13: so we eat every Sunday night.

965
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Speaker 4: And oh that's what I thought.

966
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Speaker 8: It was.

967
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Speaker 4: Whole mill. Let's take me a ls How many triangles

968
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: in this triangle?

969
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, let's go.

970
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Speaker 4: Being from Houston, my pronunciation isn't great.

971
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Speaker 13: So you kind of got from Arkansas, and so you know,

972
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 13: spending a lot of time in that fellowship where they

973
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 13: get to know each other, We get to know them. Uh,

974
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 13: we quite a bit obviously on the road together. So

975
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 13: being in those situations to where you know, but I

976
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 13: think you can be demanding without being demeaning. You can say, hey,

977
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 13: here's the standard. How do we rise up to it.

978
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 13: We're not going to lower the standard. This is the standard.

979
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 13: How can I help you reach that standard? How can

980
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 13: we make sure that you have the resources and the

981
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 13: people necessary in order to get to where you need

982
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 13: to go. I can recall one day somebody in the

983
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Speaker 13: office said, man, can I get you know what I

984
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 13: need to help me? I need a paper cutter. It's say,

985
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 13: all right, next morning, try to stop by target and

986
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 13: you hey, here's a bow with a paper cutter on it.

987
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: That's going to help you. I don't know how it's

988
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: going to.

989
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 13: Help you, but if that's going to help us be

990
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 13: more efficient, those are the things you want to do.

991
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 13: And so I think you're just constantly this is the standard,

992
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 13: this is what needs to get done.

993
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 4: We're not going to lower it.

994
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 13: We can be demanding without being demeaning, but you need

995
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 13: to tell us what you want out of this so

996
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 13: that we can help you, provide the resources, provide the

997
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 13: people in order to get to wherever it is we're.

998
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 10: Trying to go.

999
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 5: Just so you know, coach, so a coach, I coach

1000
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 5: my son's ten year old basketball team.

1001
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: To say so.

1002
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: But after a game, coach, I'm exhausted. Yeah, Like sometimes

1003
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: it's Saturday morning, eleven o'clock game. Afterwards, I'm like, I

1004
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: need a beer, Like I'm so tired from just screaming

1005
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 3: and stressing and yelling.

1006
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: Are you exhausted after a game depends.

1007
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 13: On the game, but you're definitely pretty fatigued. There's just

1008
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 13: so much prep work. So we'll give a scouting report

1009
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 13: to our players, and it'll be about one hundred and

1010
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 13: twenty hours committed to that specific scouting report. And you

1011
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 13: have to keep it really, really simple. So all the

1012
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 13: preparation and the work that goes into presenting that information

1013
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 13: to your players to help them on the court, that

1014
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 13: takes a lot. The practices leading up to it take

1015
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 13: a lot. The game takes a lot. That's probably the most.

1016
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 13: But I have so much adrenaline flowing in me after

1017
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 13: the game, whether we win or lose. If you win,

1018
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 13: you're kind of like, all right, if we lose, You're like,

1019
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 13: what went wrong? And I'm just so anxious to jump

1020
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 13: into the film usually takes me about eight hours after

1021
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 13: a game. So let's say a game seven o'clock. I

1022
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 13: get home ten thirty eleven. I'm usually pulling all nighters.

1023
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 13: I usually go to about seven am, breaking down the

1024
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 13: game and figuring everything out. If we win by a lot,

1025
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 13: sometimes I'll cut it down by like after two or

1026
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 13: three and say, I'm gonna get back to this in

1027
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 13: the morning. But what happens in conference is you only

1028
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 13: get one day off sometimes between games. I don't know

1029
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 13: how football coaches do it, because if you lose, I

1030
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 13: couldn't wait another week. So I do like basketball, it's like,

1031
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 13: all right, forty eight hours, we'll get another chance. But

1032
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 13: I find the adrenaline. I am tired, but it's like

1033
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 13: I gotta fight through this because we got another team

1034
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 13: to prepare for in forty eight hours.

1035
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 5: Has it ever been so bad that you buried the

1036
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 5: tape and don't watch it?

1037
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 8: Like the game was so bad?

1038
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 4: Done, don't I can't ever recall that.

1039
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 13: Baylor for fourteen years prior to going to Oarl Roberts

1040
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 13: and We lost a lot of games by fifty my

1041
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 13: first four years, you know, going against Kevin Durant and

1042
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 13: Blake Griffin and really good players in the Big Twelve.

1043
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 13: And so there were days there that we forgot about

1044
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 13: the tape and just kind of moved on. But it's

1045
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 13: different now as a head coach because you feel that

1046
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 13: these are the it's on us and the staff to

1047
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 13: tighten these areas up, and so I haven't. I don't

1048
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 13: believe as a head coach.

1049
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 5: Has it ever really been your fault, because coach will

1050
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 5: be like that one's on me, but I always feel

1051
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: like they're just taking the bullet.

1052
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: No, it's been my fault. So I'll tell you this.

1053
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 13: When we played in the Sweet sixteen game in twenty

1054
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 13: twenty one, when I was at Oarl Roberts, we lost

1055
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 13: by two points to tell Arkansas, Yeah, Arkansas's.

1056
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: Come on, man, you know what Paul Mills got.

1057
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 13: Paul Mills got a technical that allowed Arkansas to get

1058
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 13: too free.

1059
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 4: Throughout love you remember that, I love you? Oh yeah,

1060
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 4: And in my mind it's man, I could have handled

1061
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: that better.

1062
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 13: And you just if you ever coach a Sweet sixteen

1063
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 13: game and it doesn't go your way, lose by fifty

1064
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 13: instead of losing by two. Losing by two keeps you

1065
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 13: up at nights. But I do, yeah, I totally you

1066
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 13: got to own it. That's on you, and I could

1067
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 13: have done better. Although we did go on a fifteen

1068
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 13: to four run right after the technical and kind of

1069
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 13: I just like that, and so so any of that

1070
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 13: you do kind of have to think through it. But yeah,

1071
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 13: I definitely think from my perspective, it's on me.

1072
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 5: What about like, schematically, have you ever just planned wrong?

1073
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 13: Oh my goodness, yes, really yeah. And it's easy to

1074
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 13: say all your players they didn't get it done. That's

1075
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 13: just easy to throw your guys under the bus. But no,

1076
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 13: definitely planned wrong. Didn't think a guy who, hey, this

1077
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 13: only makes twenty percent of his three point shots. All right,

1078
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 13: we're gonna give him some looks. And what he is

1079
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 13: is he's a confident kid. So he sees those first one.

1080
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 13: You want him to make the first one if they're

1081
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 13: bad shooters, because what you know is they'll keep shooting. Like,

1082
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 13: all right, the bad shooter made one, he's going to

1083
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 13: continue to do it. Then he makes a second one,

1084
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 13: you're like ugh, And the third one you're like, holy

1085
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 13: Cole you can do now, he's just feeling it. That

1086
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 13: match is lit and you can't put it out. And

1087
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 13: I've done that before to where you just made a

1088
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 13: mistake on some personnel calls alle oops.

1089
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: We love watching him as a fan, but as a coach,

1090
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: do you like do you like alle oops? Or yeah,

1091
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: like you know, let's just do the safe playing.

1092
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 10: No.

1093
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 13: So the best shot in basketball is a dunker layup.

1094
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 13: So we're trying to get as many of those as possible.

1095
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 13: And if you can have guys who can go up

1096
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 13: and fetch that stuff, it's pretty one. It's it's an

1097
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 13: electric play. But to be honest with you, it's a

1098
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 13: good play. Like if you could just grab a ball

1099
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 13: and you're above the rim and you just tip it down,

1100
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 13: that's a pretty high, highly official shot, high percentage shots.

1101
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 13: So we have guys who can go get those, and

1102
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 13: we encourage you. We have a number of them in

1103
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 13: our in our playbook and really try to Now the

1104
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 13: key is not necessarily you do have to have somebody

1105
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 13: with the athletic ability, but you have to have a passer.

1106
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 4: You have to have a guy who can actually put

1107
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: it there. But no, we we I'm a big fan.

1108
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 4: How often do you practice allioops?

1109
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: Is that kind of one part of one of the practices.

1110
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like they're in't like, hey, this is

1111
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: an alley oops. Sell you out here?

1112
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1113
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't do any of that.

1114
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 13: But during the normal flow of just man, he here goes,

1115
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 13: here goes player development, and here are guards practicing pick

1116
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 13: and rolls.

1117
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 4: Just hey, what are the reads? Where do you throw it?

1118
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 4: When do I throw it? What's the timing?

1119
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 8: All of that.

1120
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 13: It's pretty organic, and then there are some some things

1121
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 13: that are structured in order to get the same opportunity.

1122
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 5: You talk about hyh percented shots. There's a coach like Nato.

1123
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 5: It's at Alabama and notoriously they talk about how he

1124
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 5: only wants shots near the basket or behind a three

1125
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: point line, no real mid range. What is your philosophy

1126
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 5: on the mid range? Well, I was just we were

1127
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 5: talking this morning as a staff.

1128
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 13: If you look at twenty thirteen, there's only two players

1129
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 13: who have better than a fifty percent range from long twos.

1130
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 13: Katie's one of them. Can you guess the other? Lebron No, No, Lebron,

1131
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 13: Chris Paul, Chris Paul. So there are two hundred and

1132
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 13: thirty three didn't go out of the time to guess, Coach.

1133
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 11: I silent you.

1134
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 5: Guys, I would have got that right, and coach you

1135
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 5: put us on the spot.

1136
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry.

1137
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 13: I let you guys up and I saw the easy

1138
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 13: trivia question that one, and I would have flunked, telling

1139
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 13: y'all like twenty eight days in a month.

1140
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: But going back to there's.

1141
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 13: Only two and so what you you would what you

1142
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 13: try to find out is what what are ways that

1143
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 13: are quality mid range shot? Now I'm not anti mid

1144
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 13: range whereas some coaches are.

1145
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 10: I'm not.

1146
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 13: I think there's value in it in certain responsibilities what

1147
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 13: we would call pushdowns, being able to get close to

1148
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 13: the guards, basically posting people up through the dribble, and

1149
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 13: I think those are highly percentage shots. I think if

1150
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 13: you can get ball screen twos, man, I can get

1151
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 13: to the elbow, which is what Chris Paul does a lot.

1152
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 4: If you have guys.

1153
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 13: But we show our guys their numbers and we ask

1154
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 13: them to be if you take these twos, you need

1155
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 13: to be able to make over fifty percent. So we

1156
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 13: show them their numbers pretty much after at least every day,

1157
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 13: if not every other day, so they're well aware of

1158
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 13: it and if it's efficient, we're going.

1159
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 10: To do it.

1160
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 4: But I'm not anti middlegame.

1161
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 5: We have three final questions for you taking over this program.

1162
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 5: You come and is a culture change that you have

1163
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 5: brought in? Is it, you know, a culture elevation from

1164
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 5: what's been here? Like when you come into a new program,

1165
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 5: don't have to be here, could be ru wherever. Like

1166
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: what is your mindset when you go into a new place? Yeah,

1167
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 5: it's the people. You know, there's nothing magical about any

1168
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: specific school. Just because you have a certain jersey on

1169
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 5: on the front of it doesn't mean you're going to win.

1170
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 5: The people have to matter. So whatever it is that

1171
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 5: we can do in order to help the people. So,

1172
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 5: you know, when I got to hear the guys asked

1173
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 5: for PlayStations, it's like, hey, we don't have PS fives

1174
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 5: And I was like, dundal, you know, they had an

1175
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 5: older refrigerator and I just came in and said, man,

1176
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 5: we need to get a newer refrigerator. And so some

1177
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 5: of it's just like how do we help the players.

1178
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 5: And so in my mind, let's get the right people.

1179
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 5: Let's get the right people in here, and then how

1180
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 5: do we help them? Like, what are the things that

1181
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 5: we can do to help them? I mean, again, everybody

1182
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 5: talks about well, you need to have excellence in all things.

1183
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 13: I just think you're not going to have the best

1184
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 13: of everything, but you do need to take excellent care

1185
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 13: of what you are stewarded with. And for us, that's

1186
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 13: the people. We want to take excellent care of them

1187
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 13: and make sure we have the right guys in the

1188
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 13: locker room. From a character standpoint, and that's kind of

1189
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 13: how you make strides.

1190
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 4: Coach.

1191
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: We were talking about fishing a second ago before we

1192
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: started here. What do you like about fishing? Because I

1193
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: was talking to my wife she asked me, and I said,

1194
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 3: it's kind of like the lottery.

1195
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: You know, you kind of just go in.

1196
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: You don't know you're gonna hit it or not. You

1197
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: don't know if they're gonna bite or not. But some

1198
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 3: days you get a good one.

1199
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you like? So you're familiar with live scope?

1200
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 4: Ever heard this turbine fishing?

1201
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 8: All right?

1202
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 4: So this is a video game, all right?

1203
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 13: So on your boat is a TV and you can

1204
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 13: see them and you can see them swimming down there,

1205
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 13: and you kind of know and you're basically going up

1206
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 13: and throwing the minto or sounds like cheating. Listen, you

1207
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 13: can't get them to bite. As I tell people, it

1208
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 13: doesn't mean they're gonna bite. They may have just had

1209
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 13: a steak dinner, all right, and they had shad all night,

1210
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 13: and all of a sudden, if you just give them

1211
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 13: a snickers, they don't want it. So having the things

1212
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 13: necessary to help them is important.

1213
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 4: Can I get a water?

1214
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 5: I'm giving it for those they can't see. I'm going

1215
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 5: coach the Heimlich right now. I'm saving his life. You guys,

1216
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 5: their only listen to the audio this, I got you.

1217
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 5: There he goes, Yep, got him. I just saved his

1218
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 5: life for everybody watching. Oh there you okay, Okay, good Patty.

1219
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: I think he's breathing.

1220
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 10: He's breathing.

1221
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 5: Now he's save Okay, there is eddie mouth mouth.

1222
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 4: Okay, give him there he go. Coach, open up, all right,

1223
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 4: I'm coming in.

1224
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: All right, there he is.

1225
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 5: Now you can't pass. Your life is being saved. Can

1226
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 5: you imagine you're gonna save someone's life in his No? No, no,

1227
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 5: we're good, Please not you last question?

1228
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 11: All right?

1229
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, all good?

1230
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 5: Because I was having some of those peanuts too, and

1231
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 5: I got a little bit of that. I thought I

1232
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 5: was gonna sue. But if it's happening here, Uh So,

1233
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 5: you don't sit down when you coach, or at least

1234
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 5: I've never seen you sit down. I know you had

1235
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 5: the injury that kept you from, uh continue your basketball career?

1236
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 5: Is that why you don't sit down? Because you're back

1237
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 5: You're vertebrae bad back.

1238
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 13: Like and then all of a sudden, if you just

1239
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 13: jump up at the last second because somebody makes a

1240
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 13: good player a bad play, then I really feel it.

1241
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 13: So it's it's easier for me to stand there. There's

1242
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 13: a coach who I used to spend my summers with

1243
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 13: named Rick Majeris.

1244
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 4: He would stand all the time.

1245
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 5: You would you hang out Rick with Jerris?

1246
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 13: I love rings, Yeah, yeah, And when he passed away,

1247
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 13: he was just so supportive of me and helped me

1248
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 13: a ton. But he couldn't sit down because of his weight.

1249
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 13: He was just so big and it was hard for

1250
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 13: him sometimes. But for me, Uh I did. I cracked

1251
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 13: my bottom vertebrae on my spine, and if I set

1252
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 13: in bleachers or I sit anywhere too long, my back

1253
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 13: can lock up. And so It's just best that it

1254
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 13: doesn't happen in front of ten thousand people, so I

1255
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 13: just stay standing the whole game.

1256
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 5: I should get you like one of those sleep numbers

1257
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 5: that we have that brings your back up. You know

1258
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 5: who had that was Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson had one

1259
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 5: of those bigger chairs than everybody that really helped him

1260
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 5: with his back. So I could get one of those

1261
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 5: where you press a button and then it just kind

1262
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 5: of lifts you.

1263
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1264
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 4: Perfect, and yeah, that would be That would be the coach.

1265
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 4: We really appreciate the time. Good luck with the program.

1266
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 5: I know everybody's excited about having you here, and by everybody,

1267
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 5: I mean Eddie and I. We don't to anybody else

1268
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 5: saying bubble, thanks for having.

1269
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: Us, Eddie, Bobby, thank you guys for coming. Thank you coach.

1270
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 5: All right now, this is us talking with which TOAs

1271
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 5: state assistant coach Quincy ac Quincy played four Coach Mills

1272
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 5: at Baylor eight to twenty twelve. When coach Mills was

1273
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 5: assistant there draft in the second round of the twenty

1274
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 5: twelve NBA by the Raptors, and he took us through

1275
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 5: some drills which you can watch on Too Much Access

1276
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 5: and here he is.

1277
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: It's just talking NBA, which is cool with Quincy ac coach.

1278
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 5: If you saw us walking in the gym and like

1279
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 5: we were here to try out, look exactly like.

1280
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 10: This first glance. Well, if you hear that means you

1281
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 10: you you want to be exactly that's the most important thing.

1282
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 10: So that's half the battle. You want to be here.

1283
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 10: I can, I can. I can work with that.

1284
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 7: Okay, But what's the other half, because you probably think

1285
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 7: the other half.

1286
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 10: Is you know, a lot of hat on. You know,

1287
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 10: I don't know if the shoes are tied all the way.

1288
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 10: I don't know if you guys will be ready, you know.

1289
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 7: Don't my shooes aren't type Yeah it has a strap.

1290
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I don't know.

1291
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 7: These are ones without shoes, Okay, I see, yes.

1292
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, I don't know how that will hold up.

1293
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 10: You know, somebody has some nice.

1294
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 7: Handle, but I don't have any of that nice handle.

1295
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 3: Nothing.

1296
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 10: We'll get you right.

1297
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 7: Whenever when you're in the league, do you get free shoes?

1298
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 10: Yes, either you're responsored by a company, Nike, Adidas, whatever

1299
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 10: or whatever. The league is sponsored by Nike Adidas. They

1300
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 10: have shoes.

1301
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 7: It's unlimited.

1302
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 10: I mean to a certain extent.

1303
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 7: In two k you can choose who you are.

1304
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 10: Yes, it's not that easy.

1305
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 7: I left coins.

1306
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 10: I mean they give you money, but it's not really

1307
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 10: I guess it's VC virtual currencies. You don't really see this.

1308
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 5: All currencies virtual that's in a bank in ant number.

1309
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 5: How has it been adjusting to not being that dude?

1310
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 5: But now you've got to be this dude, the coach,

1311
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 5: that's the leader, not the player.

1312
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 10: Yeah. I mean it's a big ego check. You know,

1313
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 10: that's a that's the main thing. Check your ego at

1314
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 10: the door every day. Realize that these these dudes don't

1315
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 10: care about what you did in the past. You know,

1316
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 10: they want to know how can you help them and

1317
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 10: if you care enough about them. So that's the biggest adjustment.

1318
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 10: But I mean it comes naturally. My mom was a teacher,

1319
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 10: My grandmother was a teacher, So I get a great

1320
00:58:59,080 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 10: joy out of its.

1321
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 7: Coaching always what you wanted to do after you finish

1322
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 7: your playing career.

1323
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 10: Yes, I think so. My mom she kind of she

1324
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 10: spotted it early. She told me I would be a coach,

1325
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 10: but I think it took a longer time for me

1326
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 10: to accept it. And then once injuries kind of started

1327
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 10: piling up. I had to kind of accept it a

1328
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 10: little quicker.

1329
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 5: When you're a professional and you are getting injuries, do

1330
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 5: you want to not have people know you have injuries

1331
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 5: so they don't know to move you down the bench

1332
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 5: or off the team.

1333
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 7: You try to like get through it, not even fake it,

1334
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 7: but just try not to make it a thing.

1335
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 10: No, definitely, definitely try to tough through it because I

1336
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 10: mean there are people right behind you waiting to take

1337
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 10: your spot, so you know, you have to have a

1338
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 10: high pain tolerance and try to muscle through some stuff.

1339
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: All these assistant coaches sitting back there, like what's your

1340
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: job during the game. Do you focusing on a player

1341
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 3: or are you looking at something specific?

1342
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, so I'm kind of looking at it all. You know.

1343
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 10: The coaches on the front of the bench, we're all

1344
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 10: kind of have an eye for everything. If it's your scout,

1345
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 10: looking for play calls, looking for tendencies with the players

1346
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 10: that's on the court, and a lot of the guys

1347
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 10: behind the bench they have different roles. You know, they

1348
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 10: have hustle points after time out plays, you know, it's

1349
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 10: a playthrough of different things.

1350
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 5: But I get a lot of hustle points point I

1351
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 5: scored that That's what I do. Yeah, like one hundred

1352
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 5: hustle points and zero game point.

1353
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 10: You can make a living that, Yeah, exactly.

1354
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 5: The transition from playing the NBA to coaching at college

1355
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 5: like baseline sideline, like there are a lot of different

1356
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 5: things that you can and can't do and both. So

1357
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 5: was it natural to come back and coach in college?

1358
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: You have to kind of re learn the rules because

1359
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 5: there are some small differences.

1360
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a lot of difference. It's actually there's not

1361
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 10: as many sideline out of bounds plays as it is

1362
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 10: in the NBA. You know, it's just more so kind

1363
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 10: of get the ball in. There's no defensive three seconds

1364
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 10: in the NBA, so you know, you can plan to

1365
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 10: attack a lot differently. So you know, it's an adjustment

1366
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 10: and I want to come back to kind of like

1367
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 10: you said, kind of go back to the grassrooms to

1368
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 10: learn the ins and out is what it is. I'm

1369
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 10: looking for in players. What do young talent look like nowadays?

1370
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 8: You know?

1371
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 10: So, yes, college was a great choice for me.

1372
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 7: What do people see in you as an eighteen nineteen

1373
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 7: year old player.

1374
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 10: I think that passion, they see that I played, They

1375
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 10: see that I care. I come out here, I kind

1376
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 10: of talk a little trash, you know, they can relate

1377
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 10: a little bit. And I've done what they've done or

1378
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 10: trying to do, you know what I mean. So I've

1379
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 10: been through all the spoils, all of the hard times.

1380
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 10: I know what it looks like, and I have a

1381
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 10: different perspective. You know, it's a different I from the

1382
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 10: sideline as it than it is when you're on the court,

1383
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 10: you know, So I can kind of give them that perspective.

1384
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 5: What coach saw you at eighteen nineteen and invested a

1385
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 5: lot in you to make sure that you be the

1386
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 5: guy to go to next level.

1387
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 10: Coach Mills the head coach here. You know, he recruited

1388
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 10: me at Baylor when I was fifteen, and you know

1389
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 10: he was responsible for rebounding all my bricks that I

1390
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 10: was shooting up in college and we just built a

1391
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 10: great relationship. But he saw it early, you know, he

1392
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 10: saw the competitiveness, the passion, and the skill. He knew

1393
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 10: that that would come along, you know with just what

1394
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 10: hard work. Fifteen yeah, fifteen years old.

1395
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 7: How many star recruit were you?

1396
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 10: I think I was a four star recruit.

1397
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 7: You don't remember, I know, I'd have a tattooed Onmber.

1398
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 10: In the middle star. Yeah, that would be.

1399
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: I'd be so proud of it.

1400
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I want to dance with the Start, and

1401
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 5: I got a mirrorball trophy on my arm somewhere there,

1402
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 5: so if I had Start, it'd be like.

1403
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 11: All the way up and dancing with the starts.

1404
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 7: You believe that, you know, look at me like pure athlete.

1405
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 10: I don't never judge the book by scope.

1406
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 7: That's right, you know, but that could also be interpreted

1407
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 7: as an insult because that's how you look at exactly

1408
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 7: how you look at it.

1409
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 3: Coach, what do you do with a player that's just

1410
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: kind of you know, not really just moving as hard

1411
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 3: as you should or playing as far as you should, Like,

1412
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 3: how do you motivate someone like that?

1413
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean each player is different, you know, different

1414
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 10: things kind of gets different players going. Some guys you

1415
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 10: can kind of challenge, Some guys you can kind of

1416
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 10: call out in front of everybody. Some guys you got

1417
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 10: to kind of go up and see what's going on

1418
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 10: behind closed doors. It's different for each guy, and you know,

1419
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 10: you have to really be careful, you know, because if

1420
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 10: you yell at a guy that doesn't respond well to that.

1421
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 10: You know, now he shuts down and now you can't

1422
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 10: get anything out of him. So you know, it is

1423
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 10: it's a learning curve and that aspect.

1424
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 5: You know, when you're playing in the league, who was

1425
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 5: the hardest guy that you had to guard?

1426
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 10: I tell people that my toughest matchup was when I

1427
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 10: was with the New York Knicks going against LaMarcus Audridge.

1428
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 10: He was in the contract year.

1429
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 7: So he's trying real hard.

1430
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, a lot more to play for, and I

1431
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 10: think the Knicks were interested in him, so it was

1432
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 10: even more. I think he probably scored on me seven

1433
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 10: times in a row, not seven points, like seven times.

1434
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 7: And points point.

1435
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 10: These were real baskets, So that that gave me my

1436
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 10: toughest matchup. But overall, you know, guys like lebron kd

1437
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 10: you know, they're just so big and so skilled. It's

1438
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 10: so hard to guard them.

1439
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 5: You play with Carmelo in New York, I did so

1440
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 5: Carmela could shoot. Carmelo was big, Like what what what

1441
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 5: was he like as a teammate and what was it?

1442
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 5: That's a rare combination at least. Then now guys are

1443
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 5: getting a lot bigger with a lot more ball skills

1444
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 5: at able to shoot a lot better like that. He

1445
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 5: I mean, he's kind of a That was a very

1446
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 5: rare thing from Carmelo or playing Syracuse.

1447
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 7: What was that dude like to play with?

1448
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 10: Carmelo Man? I saw him this summer at the Top

1449
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 10: one hundred camp. His son was there, so I got

1450
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 10: a chance to kind of catch up with him. Great dude,

1451
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 10: great teammate. Off the court, just unbelievable and on the court,

1452
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 10: I mean, he's just a competitor. You know, he's gonna

1453
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 10: he's gonna make you feel him whenever you guard him.

1454
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 10: You know, he's always bumping you, pulling on You've heard

1455
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 10: all the recordings of you know, how he talks when

1456
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 10: he's getting the rebounds and stuff. So that's just who

1457
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 10: he is. You know, He's a competitor and just a

1458
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 10: great guy.

1459
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 5: Said the Pelicans try to get it back this year

1460
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 5: after after he recover. What if they call what if

1461
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 5: the Pelicans called you today? Can you give us ten games?

1462
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: Coach?

1463
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 7: What about seventy? Could you give him seventy seventy?

1464
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 10: My body would break down for sure.

1465
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 5: Two final questions, best shooter that you've ever played with

1466
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 5: or against against?

1467
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 10: Steph Curry. What's that like?

1468
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 7: Is he just is he just non stop?

1469
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 10: He doesn't stop moving? It was I was in the

1470
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 10: same game.

1471
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 11: It was.

1472
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 10: I think it was when Clay was kind of going

1473
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 10: back and forth with Omary cast but it was just

1474
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 10: like mad shot. Clay made a shot, made shot, Steph

1475
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 10: made a shot. It was the about six trips back

1476
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 10: and forth with nobody missed. Craziest thing I've ever been

1477
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 10: a part of. And then the best shooter I've played with.

1478
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 10: I gotta say Dirk Whiskey, but Steve Novak is very

1479
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 10: high on that list. He was a sniper, you know.

1480
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 10: I mean it was no no meat on that or

1481
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 10: no fat on that shot. You know, he straight to

1482
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 10: it and it's all net.

1483
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, you're all fat. Yeah you heard him wrong,

1484
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 5: you heard them wrong. Last question, As a coach, what

1485
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 5: are you about? Like just just straight up like, what

1486
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 5: are you about.

1487
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 10: As a coach?

1488
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 8: Uh?

1489
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 10: I mean competitiveness Like when I played, I was just competitiveness, competitive.

1490
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 10: I just had a will to win, you know that

1491
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 10: couldn't be matched in my opinion, And you know that's

1492
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 10: kind of what I try to bring out of these guys.

1493
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 10: Is there everybody you know, everybody has a level of

1494
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 10: competition and a level if they don't want to lose

1495
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 10: or whatever in them, and it's just on you as

1496
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 10: a coach to figure out ways to bring it out

1497
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 10: of you know. So that's what I'm about, you know,

1498
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 10: just toughness, greediness.

1499
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 7: I'm perfect for you.

1500
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 4: Then there we go.

1501
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 10: I will to win.

1502
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 4: I never win, but I have a will.

1503
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 11: I have a willeck.

1504
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 7: You've just been with the wrong right, That's it.

1505
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: Last step is guard Xavier Bell.

1506
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 5: Bell spent his first two years a Drexel before coming

1507
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 5: back to Kansas to play for the Shockers.

1508
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: Super nice guy.

1509
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 5: You can keep up with Xavier on Instagram at one

1510
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 5: of one XB here he is Xavier Bell.

1511
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 7: How many shots you think you get up a day?

1512
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 10: Save?

1513
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 8: Uh A good two point fifty just.

1514
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 5: Regardless, Like at least gonna get two fifty in. Yeah,

1515
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 5: Eddie was trying to shoot a thousand today.

1516
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 11: I got to forty seven.

1517
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 7: I got he got tired. Yeah, So it's any advice

1518
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 7: you'd like to give him.

1519
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 14: I just keep going, man, I think forty seven. You're

1520
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 14: in chipping away a little bit. So you got tiny chips, yeah,

1521
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 14: eight chips.

1522
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 5: Yeah. So we were looking at some of your numbers

1523
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 5: this year right now, I averaged about fifteen game. Do

1524
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 5: you know where you are point wise during a game?

1525
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 5: Are you just playing or do you catch up in

1526
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 5: between halves?

1527
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 14: They kind of showed on our scoreboard every game, so

1528
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 14: I kind of look up from time to time, but

1529
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 14: for the most part, I don't really try and get

1530
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 14: too caught up in that.

1531
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 8: I kind of just want to help our team.

1532
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 7: If you're feeling it, does the bucket feel huge?

1533
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 5: Does it feel like you can't Are there those moments

1534
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 5: where you're like, man, I don't know if I can miss.

1535
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel like the person in front of me

1536
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 14: is having a rough night. So I like to just keep,

1537
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 14: you know, keep going on that.

1538
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 5: So can you ever identify that before game or is

1539
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 5: that always in game when you kind of feel like

1540
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 5: you're in the zone.

1541
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 14: I try and get my mind right before the game,

1542
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 14: you know, kind of come in with the right attitudes.

1543
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 14: You know, it's not really who I'm going against, is

1544
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 14: really what I can do, So just kind of focus

1545
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 14: on that, just keep going.

1546
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 5: For sure, in baseball, if you're throwing really good before

1547
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 5: the game and the ballpen, that's kind of a bad sign.

1548
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 5: If you're shooting and you're making everything and shoot around

1549
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 5: now in basketball, is that good or does that not

1550
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 5: matter at all?

1551
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 10: I think it's good.

1552
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 14: It kind of puts a little bit more confidence in

1553
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 14: my head already than what already's in there. So I

1554
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 14: would say a little bit. Sometimes I don't know. I

1555
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 14: don't like to make a lot just so that way

1556
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 14: I go in them.

1557
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, exactly, go in the game, start missing, get

1558
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 8: in my head a little bit more so the stuff

1559
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 8: like that.

1560
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 11: It's playing on the road much harder.

1561
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 10: Is it just the same game?

1562
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 14: I would say, it's kind of it's more fun just

1563
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 14: to be able to go into someone else's environment, try

1564
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 14: and give them your best and hopefully shut up their crowd.

1565
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 5: So, yeah, what's the best road wind you've ever had?

1566
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 5: I mean, it just felt good, like that baby has

1567
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 5: some candy and you walked in it. Took the spreeze

1568
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 5: by the other hand and ate them all.

1569
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 14: We played a really good game against Tulane last year

1570
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 14: at Tulane, I would say, so that was probably a

1571
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 14: good a good road win for us.

1572
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 5: I would say, what's the game where you felt collegiately

1573
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 5: most in the zone, Even if you hadn't scored the

1574
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 5: most points, like you felt even your passes were super crisp.

1575
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 8: I would say, so it wasn't here.

1576
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 14: I was at an old school, but I scored thirty

1577
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 14: in a game, and I think the flow was just

1578
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,879
Speaker 14: it was just in nature, just keep getting to the buckets.

1579
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 8: So that was that was probably my best one for sure.

1580
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 5: Is it like Harry Potter or you don't see the

1581
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,959
Speaker 5: guy's name, like what's the guy's name in Harry Potter Baltimore?

1582
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 7: Is it like you don't say the school the old school?

1583
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, like Baltimore that don't exist exactly.

1584
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 3: What's it like being an elite athlete in college? Like

1585
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 3: my college is like we just parted.

1586
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 8: It's a it's a grind.

1587
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 14: I think you gotta wake up every day, you know,

1588
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 14: with the right attitude, right mindset, weights, classes, practice as well,

1589
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 14: but just making sure you're putting your best foot forward

1590
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 14: and whatever it is that you do.

1591
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 3: So, But do you get to have fun like you

1592
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 3: get to enjoy college?

1593
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, of course.

1594
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 14: You know there's off days you kind of you're able

1595
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 14: to unwind or relax, you know, catch up with old friends,

1596
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 14: stuff like that family that's closed by I'm from here,

1597
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 14: so my family's close. But I would say it's nothing,

1598
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 14: nothing too taxing, especially since I've been doing the sport

1599
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 14: my whole life.

1600
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 5: Can you hear your family in the stands since they've

1601
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 5: always been with you and you know their voices?

1602
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 14: Nah, but I know where they are, so I like

1603
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 14: to I like to look over at them from time

1604
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 14: to time, for sure, my dad especially, but for the

1605
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 14: most part, you definitely can't hear.

1606
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 5: That's got to be exciting though, for your family to

1607
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 5: be able to just drive down the road absolutely like

1608
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 5: that had to mean a lot to you to come

1609
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 5: play here too.

1610
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 8: It, did you know?

1611
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 14: I went to a school that was about twenty hours

1612
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 14: away right out of high school, so it was kind

1613
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 14: of tough for them to get to a bunch of games.

1614
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 14: But once I was transferred back and everything, it was

1615
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 14: it was super cool just to see them at all

1616
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:18,560
Speaker 14: the games that they can come to.

1617
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 7: Yeah Baltimore you oh right, yeah to Baltimore. Yeah yea yeah,

1618
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 7: yeah yeah right.

1619
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 3: Like you talk about your dad, like, is it hard

1620
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 3: to tell your dad like that, I'm at another level now,

1621
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: Like I got coaches at Oh you know what I.

1622
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 8: Mean with me is that we got coached.

1623
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 14: That's funny you said that, because when I first transferred

1624
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 14: back last year, me and my dad kind of got

1625
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 14: into it early because he was just so big.

1626
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 8: On getting in the gym with me doing this, doing that.

1627
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 8: I'm like, well, I have coaches now who do that

1628
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 8: for me.

1629
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 14: And he's like, well, you know, you can never get

1630
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 14: away from the basics, and I'm like, I understand that,

1631
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 14: but it's just a different level that you got to

1632
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 14: kind of do it at now. So it was tough

1633
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 14: at first, but I think he's got acquainted to it.

1634
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 11: Just like I have.

1635
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 5: So if you wanted to shoot around here, could you

1636
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 5: come in at any time and shoot in the gym?

1637
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 8: Yeah. So, and the coach staff we have now and

1638
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 8: everything too.

1639
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 14: They have a lot of gas on staff who rebound

1640
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 14: for us, you know, get in the gym whenever we're

1641
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 14: available and all that. So I like to come in

1642
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 14: in the morning before class just to get it out

1643
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 14: the way and then maybe shoot after practice and everything.

1644
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 5: So somebody to rebound for you, that'll be awesome. Yeah,

1645
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 5: they've worked a lot harder for us than him.

1646
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 10: That'd be chasing.

1647
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 5: We too, We want to chasing. Yeah, what would your

1648
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 5: teammates say about you. If we asked him and you

1649
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 5: weren't around, and we said, you know, what's daber all about?

1650
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 7: What would they say about you?

1651
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 10: Just the right things.

1652
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 14: I would just say, you know, trying to be the

1653
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 14: best leader I can. Obviously I'm not a leader in

1654
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 14: everyone's eyes, but I just try and do the right

1655
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 14: thing that I know is right for my team and

1656
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 14: for everybody around me as well.

1657
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 7: All right, last three questions. Do you ever play yourself

1658
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 7: into shape?

1659
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 5: Is that a thing? Or do you get in shape

1660
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 5: and you play yourself in a better shape?

1661
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 8: I would say you play yourself in a better shape,

1662
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 8: you know.

1663
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 14: I think coaches do a really good job off season,

1664
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 14: you know, kind of repairing you for those type of runs,

1665
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 14: those type of different environments. But I don't think it's

1666
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 14: up until you get that first win going up against

1667
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 14: someone who's also been preparing at that same level as you,

1668
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 14: that you're like, okay, this is what I need to

1669
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 14: pick it up to now. So then day in and

1670
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 14: day out, that's where you're just trying to get better

1671
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 14: and better at you get a two K. No, I

1672
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 14: don't play, nah I have I haven't bought the new

1673
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 14: two K I know I'm gonna get crap for that time.

1674
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the same though. It's like every year is

1675
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 8: the same.

1676
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 14: I've heard twenty four is the best one yet, but

1677
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 14: I hear that every single time a new two K

1678
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 14: comes out.

1679
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: Okay, but you got court knowledge, you got you know

1680
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 3: what you're doing, so when you play the game, you

1681
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 3: just dominate.

1682
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 8: My friends would tell you otherwise, but I'm gonna tell

1683
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 8: you yeah.

1684
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, mid range. How you feel about midrange?

1685
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 10: I like it.

1686
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 14: I don't take a lot of them. I shoot a

1687
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 14: lot of floaters more than just pull up mid ranges.

1688
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 14: But I actually like that part of the game. I

1689
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 14: think it's a lost art, but it's really good. It's

1690
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 14: appealing to me. I would say, you ever don't have

1691
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 14: I ever done?

1692
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 8: Do you ever?

1693
01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 10: Don't?

1694
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 8: Not since the season started, But I've dunked this year?

1695
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1696
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, only breakaway or you ever put it on somebody?

1697
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 8: It was on somebody?

1698
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 7: This find that clip?

1699
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 11: Hard?

1700
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 4: Is it to not hang on the rim like when

1701
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 4: it's a good dug?

1702
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's I would say, it's all about you've never

1703
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 8: dunk in your life?

1704
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 7: How do you know that's right?

1705
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 8: You step on the back, I would say, it's all

1706
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 8: about momentum.

1707
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 14: So like two hands, it's probably harder not to hang

1708
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 14: on the rim, but one hand, I think it's all

1709
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 14: about just getting off the rim and then letting the

1710
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 14: dude know that you just dunked on them and everything.

1711
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 5: How would you let him know without the rest knowing?

1712
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 5: You let him know, because if you let him know,

1713
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 5: if you stand over them like I do something.

1714
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say its word choice is

1715
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 8: what I would say. Word choice.

1716
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 14: So I don't like to you know, I'm not gonna

1717
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 14: say what I would say on camera. Uh the clip

1718
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 14: that they got me this year, they got what I

1719
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 14: said on camera.

1720
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 7: But okay, we'll say words and then you tell us

1721
01:13:59,120 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 7: if it's the word.

1722
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: I'll go first. You're satisfactory, good dude?

1723
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 10: Was that it? Yeah?

1724
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: Okay that I thought that was I Yeah, that was good.

1725
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 7: We appreciate you, appreciate you have a great season. I

1726
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 7: hope you're healthy, and uh, this is this is for

1727
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 7: Xavier right here. I would have been awesome.

1728
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's it the final whistles. I

1729
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: got football cards here to give away just for that.

1730
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 3: Okay, are we gonna do that?

1731
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 8: Ed?

1732
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: Do you get a Malik Willis. Yeah, Titans, I'll take it.

1733
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 3: I like it liberty, dude.

1734
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: Read You get an Amari Cooper cool?

1735
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 3: That is why did you give him the Amari one?

1736
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: Hit him drawn Eddie, you get Kevin You get a

1737
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: Denzel Mims. Okay, you know what your team plays for? Uh,

1738
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: you don't about it? Jacks Jaguars.

1739
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 6: Oh, I would not have guessed that.

1740
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 10: Mike.

1741
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 2: You get a Kyler Murray.

1742
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 10: I'll take it.

1743
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 11: A good one.

1744
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: Uh, it's a Tayshaun Gibson that's reads read on and

1745
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: then I have this.

1746
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep this. NBA Hoops Rookie Special Asar Thompson.

1747
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: That's worth anything like oh, I played for the Pistons.

1748
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 5: Now he does. He was drafted first round. Okay, it's

1749
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 5: rookie special Thompson. You saw that from over there.

1750
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I got camera no no, no, my eyes.

1751
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 2: I got Lacy. It's a Panini ten Bucks. This one

1752
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 2: goes to do you want to mic?

1753
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 6: What the your daddy?

1754
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, it's gonna go straight to my kids.

1755
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 5: Don't act and have you got you can do whatever

1756
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 5: you want all these I don't even care you open

1757
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 5: a new pack.

1758
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: I got a new pack. Here we're gonna open this

1759
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 2: first one is a Brett fav rookie card. You gotta

1760
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: get this to read. Yeah, Brett Favara fa Okay, here

1761
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 2: we go. We got a Matthew Barry draft card.

1762
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: Is cary interesting?

1763
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 5: We got a first overall nineteen eighty five Bruce Smith,

1764
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 5: whoa man the bills. We got an all American Caleb

1765
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 5: Williams draft card.

1766
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 3: That's gonna be something.

1767
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 5: We got a draft card, uh brought Bowers? Did this

1768
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 5: needna be worth a nickel or a thousand dollars?

1769
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 2: I don't know. Mike could have lied to me just

1770
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: to get the card.

1771
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 5: And then a Bijhon Robinson. They can't put the long

1772
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 5: horn on there. They wiped the long corn off, but

1773
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 5: touchdown King's card.

1774
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 3: They didn't pay for the licensing. I guess not.

1775
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 2: Hey you been there?

1776
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, you know what that's like.

1777
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: Hey, what's the deal?

1778
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 6: Still waiting, but we're making progress. We're moving along, waiting

1779
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 6: and waiting, and.

1780
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 2: We're waking progress and waiting and waiting.

1781
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, last I heard is double checking again.

1782
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: He just sent me something if you want to use

1783
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: this during the episode. He sent to me right now,

1784
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: I just saw it. I just like he literally sent

1785
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: some material right now as we're ending it.

1786
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 10: What was it?

1787
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 5: This will be Super Bowl fifty eight. If you had

1788
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 5: five and eight together, you get thirteen, Taylor Swift, San FRANSCOO.

1789
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 5: Forty nine ers are playing in the game? Four nine

1790
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 5: at it together?

1791
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 3: Or thirteen Taylor Swift read?

1792
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: Are you Taylor conspiracy person?

1793
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 3: No?

1794
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: I just saw this.

1795
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 5: I was like, forty nine Ers the one seed in

1796
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 5: the NFC, while the Chiefs are the three seed in

1797
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 5: the AFC. Thirteen they're just they're cherry picking things equal thirteen,

1798
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 5: They're not every number from everything. Taylor Swift, to schedule,

1799
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 5: took a plane from a concert in Tokyo to Las Vegas.

1800
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 5: The flat time from Tokyo to Las Vegas is roughly

1801
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 5: thirteen thirteen hours.

1802
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 3: Roughly.

1803
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 5: I guess if Swift does indeed make it a game,

1804
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 5: this will be her thirteen appearance at a Kan City

1805
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 5: Chiefs game this season. Come on, to date, the Super

1806
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 5: Bowl February eleventh, twenty twenty four. Two and eleven added

1807
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 5: together is thirteen.

1808
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 4: Wow.

1809
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: Wait what this is crazy?

1810
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 8: Wait?

1811
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 2: The date of the Super Bowl is February. Oh, gat

1812
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: got him?

1813
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 5: If you subtract thirteen from one hundred, you get eighty seven,

1814
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,839
Speaker 5: which is a Jersey number of Swiss boyfriend.

1815
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: That's true, so stupid.

1816
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 2: No, no, that's so bad. I did want to use

1817
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: in the episode. Thank you buddy. Yeah, man, thank you.

1818
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 3: You get a false star that's a five yard penalty interview, and.

1819
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: Then and you get eight.

1820
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 6: After a touchdown.

1821
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 5: Then yeah, was thirteen and we talked about Dan Marino

1822
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 5: earlier who thirteen?

1823
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, woown.

1824
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: Possibly be our final episode. Thank you guys for listening.

1825
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 3: Hey, I love you guys.

1826
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1827
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 3: If this is our last.

1828
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 5: I've not heard from Kevin during this, but Eddie, you

1829
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 5: gotta give us one good blow before we end.

1830
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll give you my best blow here is mister

1831
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: go ahead.

1832
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 6: Wow, nice job, dude.

1833
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 3: That good That camera crews like what just happened in there.

1834
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 7: That's awesome.

1835
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: All right, it's been a real treat. Thank you guys.

1836
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see you next week. We probably won't, We

1837
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 2: don't know.

1838
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: I love you, guys.

1839
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 5: It's like when a show goes to after they finish

1840
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 5: their season and they wait to be picked up or not,

1841
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 5: and they just wait wait by their phones.

1842
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll let you guys know already at twenty five whistles.

1843
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: That's our deal there. We'll see you guys soon or

1844
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: we won't.

1845
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 7: Bye, everybody,