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Speaker 1: It is a Monday. It's Monday, two August twenty seventh,
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, Season fourteen, episode number bettage two. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Break. I'm Derrek keep thirty two. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: coming off a game Cowboys lose last night, twenty seven
Speaker 1: to nothing. No, no, no, no, you're just gonna short
Speaker 1: change Brett Marr like that. Oh sorry, right, No I did,
Speaker 1: I did. I don't even remember those last three points
Speaker 1: twenty seven to three. All right, so twenty seven to three, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't get picked out. Friends, Okay, maybe they didn't
Speaker 1: get shut out, But we're gonna talk. We're gonna put
Speaker 1: that all in perspective today because I've seen all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff on social media, which of course social media
Speaker 1: always goes a little crazy with things. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: put it in perspective today. We're gonna talk to you
Speaker 1: guys about what we think that all means, if it
Speaker 1: means anything with it being a preseason game and with
Speaker 1: the guys that the Cowboys had out there, but I
Speaker 1: do throughout the show, I want to hear from you, guys.
Speaker 1: I want you to give us a call and let
Speaker 1: us know what you think, what maybe you're concerned about
Speaker 1: as as you watch that game last night, as we
Speaker 1: have one more preseason game this week and then next
Speaker 1: week it all turns to the regular season. I want
Speaker 1: to know what fans are concerned about. What are the
Speaker 1: things that that you coming off this preseason are are
Speaker 1: wondering if the Cowboys are gonna be able to get
Speaker 1: better at and be able to be able to compete
Speaker 1: in those areas call us eight eight eight eight five
Speaker 1: five two two nine seven, So you can chime into
Speaker 1: the conversation. How's everybody doing today. We're good, I'm awesome, Yeah, good, perfect,
Speaker 1: All right, so let's let's get into Let's get into
Speaker 1: the conversation on the game. I guess as a big
Speaker 1: picture thing, I'd like you guys to tell me first
Speaker 1: how dismissive or not you are of what happened last night. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the starters on offense primarily didn't play. The veteran starters
Speaker 1: for the most part didn't play. There were a couple
Speaker 1: of defensive starters that didn't play. Although the first team
Speaker 1: defense did get a chance to get out there, Cowboys
Speaker 1: just look completely out of it from from the word go, and,
Speaker 1: as we said, end up losing twenty seven two three.
Speaker 1: Tell me how dismissive you are or not of what
Speaker 1: you saw last night and what it means for the future.
Speaker 1: Nick Well, I thought, you know, let's let's look at
Speaker 1: some of the positives. I mean, the defense. First team
Speaker 1: defense did play and they played really well. They I
Speaker 1: think they posted a shut out, you would say in
Speaker 1: the first half. A couple of touchdowns were not on
Speaker 1: the defense. I thought they've looked good all preseason, they
Speaker 1: very fast. Uh, there's some very positive things to point
Speaker 1: to for that defense. They were trying to play. They
Speaker 1: had their starters out there, and they look really good.
Speaker 1: So that's the positive thing that came out. I'll let
Speaker 1: someone else talk about maybe the flip side of it,
Speaker 1: the difference talk about the negative. Whoative the one negative?
Speaker 1: There's plenty of negative. I mean, I get I get
Speaker 1: upset a little bit of the people that just kind
Speaker 1: of go off on Twitter and get so upset about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys losing the game. And you gotta remember, these
Speaker 1: are not your first team guys. So there's a big
Speaker 1: difference there. And someone sent me a comment out like, oh,
Speaker 1: are you saying they didn't make any effort. They weren't
Speaker 1: putting an effort out there. It's not about effort. Obviously.
Speaker 1: There's a big difference between backup guys and the starters
Speaker 1: now as far as death goes, and that has been
Speaker 1: a concern right now. Who the backup guys are at
Speaker 1: this point is very important, and clearly what we saw
Speaker 1: yesterday last night was not very promising at all as
Speaker 1: far as backup guys. I guess there's also a difference
Speaker 1: when you combine several starters and then you have maybe
Speaker 1: a one backup guy that we shouldn't be seeing something
Speaker 1: as bad as we saw last night. But this does
Speaker 1: raise a lot of questions. If I'm calling it a wash,
Speaker 1: it's a complete and like, I don't view it particularly
Speaker 1: good or bad one way or the other for either
Speaker 1: side of the ball, honestly. And the reason why is
Speaker 1: you can look at this across a variety of spectrums.
Speaker 1: Defense looked really, really good. I think we would all
Speaker 1: agree that they did, and they have, to their credit,
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald and David Johnson didn't play in this game
Speaker 1: the same way that Zack Martin and Travis Frederick didn't.
Speaker 1: The offense looked pretty awful pathetic. They were going against
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones and Patrick Peterson. I mean, it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to do a full evaluation with the way this is
Speaker 1: all mismatched. I think the best way to look at
Speaker 1: this is just to literally individually pick things out, Like
Speaker 1: maybe the most encouraging thing from the whole game for
Speaker 1: me is that I thought Joe Looney looked like he
Speaker 1: played pretty well going against who he went against. Playing
Speaker 1: with Lyle Collins and Connor Williams, obviously Zack and Tyron
Speaker 1: weren't out there. I thought he played really well. I thought, obviously, again,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep the personnel in mind with the defense.
Speaker 1: But that is an encouraging trend over the course of
Speaker 1: three preseason games that you feel good about what they've done.
Speaker 1: Other than that, again, just kind of a wash, and
Speaker 1: that's you know, I'll even I'll own it. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to see good players out there, and that's what
Speaker 1: you get when you don't put good players out there.
Speaker 1: It was boring and ugly, but it's better than the alternative,
Speaker 1: which is talking about somebody not being available right now
Speaker 1: because they got hurt. So we know Dave how Dave
Speaker 1: falls on that for YouTube. You think that was the
Speaker 1: right decision, not letting some of the a lot of
Speaker 1: those veterans play last night, because when you think about
Speaker 1: it in the grand scheme of things, I think Dave
Speaker 1: has made a point that you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, doesn't really matter you still these guys
Speaker 1: are still going to be ready to play when the
Speaker 1: season begins. But if you're one of the people that
Speaker 1: believes you gotta play football to be ready to play football,
Speaker 1: you're running back is not going to play a preseason snap.
Speaker 1: Your middle line, I mean, you're your best linebacker's gonna
Speaker 1: play what a few snaps had he gotten in the
Speaker 1: second week of preseason. Your quarterback won't play for this
Speaker 1: week or next week probably, So there's a ton of
Speaker 1: guys that just won't get if you believe in that,
Speaker 1: won't get that kind of seasoning heading into the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that this is the first time
Speaker 1: that we've seen Zeke nine to get any carries at
Speaker 1: all in the preseason. But it's not like he got
Speaker 1: a ton. I mean, this is like down from like
Speaker 1: six or seven to zero. And I think in that
Speaker 1: Seattle game is rookie year, he had a few there
Speaker 1: and he you know, he hasn't actually started out the
Speaker 1: seasons that great. Um. Anyways, the first two games, I
Speaker 1: think for the first of us two seasons, he hasn't
Speaker 1: been that effective. The second game last year was one
Speaker 1: of the worst games we've ever seen from him. So
Speaker 1: I think there's different theories on exactly, you know, how
Speaker 1: he gets ready to play. He's had an outstanding Zeke
Speaker 1: He's had an outstanding training camp, and I think that
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be fine, But I would have liked to
Speaker 1: see a little bit. Sorry to answer your question so long,
Speaker 1: but I think the domino effect of Zach then Travis
Speaker 1: led to you know what, not tiring, so not Dak,
Speaker 1: so not Zeke, And it just makes sense that way
Speaker 1: that that was the best decision. And I don't think
Speaker 1: those guys, I mean, they're not going to really improved
Speaker 1: in the spam of like a week and a half.
Speaker 1: So you know what you're getting with Zee, you know
Speaker 1: what you're getting with Dak and all those guys there.
Speaker 1: So this time, I would say this is the right
Speaker 1: time and the time that he's needed to see the
Speaker 1: guys that we did get to see last night, and
Speaker 1: crucial time for them. I was expecting to see a
Speaker 1: little more that made you feel better, especially let's say
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback position. That was pretty disappointing, but it's
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this is where we're at right now.
Speaker 1: But yes, to answer your question, I think it was
Speaker 1: the best decision to keep them out. Speaking of the
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks, four of the eight turnovers last night came
Speaker 1: from those two quarterbacks, Cooper Rush Mike White eight eight
Speaker 1: eight turnovers eight eight turnovers. When was the last time
Speaker 1: you saw a game with eight turnovers like preseason, regular season.
Speaker 1: I don't care, like any any level of football, Like
Speaker 1: that's that's stuff like where you're from, Like when you
Speaker 1: watch a high school team where the center can't snap
Speaker 1: the ball, Like yeah, anyway, And the worst part is
Speaker 1: it was a minus eight in the you know ratio.
Speaker 1: You don't get any in return about that. You would
Speaker 1: think if you have you would think that if you
Speaker 1: have eight turnovers, you'll at least be like minus six,
Speaker 1: you know, like maybe your defense gets you too. Did
Speaker 1: you hear minus eight? I asked Jason, I asked Jason
Speaker 1: the Garrett. Yeah, the Garrett. I asked him in the
Speaker 1: press conference about these turnovers, and he just went down
Speaker 1: the line and he was just like, well this one, this,
Speaker 1: you know, this play was bad. Then this interception, he's
Speaker 1: gotta do this. So there's two. What else? He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: and then you know Rod Smith did, there's three, there's four.
Speaker 1: You know, he's getting all the way. He's like, how
Speaker 1: many are we had? Seven? It was like, yeah, he
Speaker 1: went through them all. This is like a little while.
Speaker 1: This is like yeah, I kind of well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: A guy that We've been talking about Lance Lenore and
Speaker 1: in his role here and if he does make the team,
Speaker 1: we talked about it last week and when you see
Speaker 1: these are the this is the time that he needs
Speaker 1: to show up and prove that he can do that,
Speaker 1: and especially especially in special teams. And again, that is
Speaker 1: one of the things that he messed up last year
Speaker 1: as far as when he was given a chance, we
Speaker 1: saw that Again clearly there was not really an improvement there.
Speaker 1: So that was disappointing. And the tough part for him
Speaker 1: is that that isn't even a job he probably was
Speaker 1: going to win as a returner. Yet it could be
Speaker 1: the thing that might get him keep him off this team,
Speaker 1: which it is tragic because I think he's had a
Speaker 1: really good preseason, really good training camp as a receiver
Speaker 1: and that may have been undone a bit we'll only
Speaker 1: see that, but it may have been undone. You know,
Speaker 1: I hear your point about, well, he wasn't making these
Speaker 1: plays a special teams. You know, of why he was
Speaker 1: a guy candidate to make the team because of what
Speaker 1: he was doing at receiver. However, you get the opportunity
Speaker 1: when whenever it is and the lights come on and
Speaker 1: we've said this for years now. These receivers aren't going
Speaker 1: to make the team out how they catch, how they block,
Speaker 1: how they tackle, how they play on special teams. So
Speaker 1: an opportunity to perform, and you know he did. He
Speaker 1: did have one bad play. The other one, you know,
Speaker 1: the other one's kind of a there was a real
Speaker 1: bad play on Byron Jones. He's got to be a
Speaker 1: little bit more aware of that. Yeah, So when you
Speaker 1: look at those those four in those four turnovers that
Speaker 1: came from the quarterbacks specifically, how concerned you more concerned
Speaker 1: today than you were three days go about the backup
Speaker 1: quarterback position. I have a hard time articulating how I
Speaker 1: feel about that because I don't think Cooper Rush is
Speaker 1: bad by any stretch. But I don't think at any
Speaker 1: point in either of these two seasons have I been
Speaker 1: convinced that he's like the answer at backup quarterback. Even
Speaker 1: when he was killing it last year. I mean, he
Speaker 1: played really well, but I would have had not much
Speaker 1: more confidence in him to lead this team for a
Speaker 1: prolonged period of time than Kellen Moore. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe he's a little bit better than Kellen Moore, but
Speaker 1: he's not you know, he's not going to go Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner on you and like guide your team to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl or anything like that. And so I'm kind
Speaker 1: of I'm like, I don't think he's good enough, but
Speaker 1: I don't think most backup quarterbacks are good enough, and honestly,
Speaker 1: and then in the back of my head you think
Speaker 1: about Nick Foles and what he did for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: and I know that's the that's the ready made answer
Speaker 1: anybody's gonna have for you. Is if I say a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback doesn't really matter anyway, that's that's a great point.
Speaker 1: It can we can, and I'm not. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that anybody on this roster is the guy
Speaker 1: to be this team's backup. But I don't think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to go shopping for one. But the
Speaker 1: interesting part there is, can't he get to the point
Speaker 1: where he's good enough now be Nick Foles? No? Right, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And the reason why I can
Speaker 1: say that it is with those two throws that I saw.
Speaker 1: You cannot play in this league if you can't make
Speaker 1: all of the throws like that. Now you can be
Speaker 1: a good backup. Jason Garrett did it for years. Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett could not make all the throws, I mean, and
Speaker 1: he was a different game plan when Akeman came out.
Speaker 1: That's just the way that it is. That's okay, there
Speaker 1: are some quarterbacks that are that way. But you just
Speaker 1: look at that out throw. Peterson was sitting all over it.
Speaker 1: Now a little bit different knowing that he's not gonna
Speaker 1: get beat deep, they're not going to test them and
Speaker 1: all that. But the one in the red zone, same thing.
Speaker 1: It was late, it was not it was it was
Speaker 1: not on a rope. It needed to be there. But
Speaker 1: isn't that more about or at least could that be
Speaker 1: more about decision making? That number one, he was in
Speaker 1: decisive can get it out as soon as he should have,
Speaker 1: and then it was probably a bad decision on the comeback.
Speaker 1: It's probably a bad decision to throw that ball in
Speaker 1: the first place because of the tight coverage there, and
Speaker 1: he was he basically was coming back like he the
Speaker 1: defenders saw that there was an opportunity there. He's gonna
Speaker 1: bite on that, And so to me, I think of
Speaker 1: that more as bad decision making, not decisive enough to
Speaker 1: get the ball out when it was when the player
Speaker 1: was when the receiver was open, then I do that
Speaker 1: he didn't have the arm string to make the throw well.
Speaker 1: And the question was, do you think that he's a
Speaker 1: guy that could develop into that? And I don't really
Speaker 1: think so because of because of the arm string. Now
Speaker 1: you can get better at some of those other things
Speaker 1: that the decision making and all that. These quarterbacks do
Speaker 1: get better. But I think he either have those tools
Speaker 1: or you don't. It doesn't mean he can't go and
Speaker 1: win games for your two or three weeks. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that because it got quarterbacks can do that. But
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't mean I don't think he's
Speaker 1: one that's going to develop into a starter for some
Speaker 1: other team one year. I don't think that. You said
Speaker 1: right there that a cornerback is going to bite on
Speaker 1: that play, and you're right. But the thing that concerns
Speaker 1: me is like bite implies that it was a gamble,
Speaker 1: Like Patrick Peterson diagnosed that place so well and was
Speaker 1: so much better than Cooper Rush in that moment that
Speaker 1: it was like SloMo, like it wasn't a gamble. He
Speaker 1: was like, I'm taking this to the house and he
Speaker 1: knew it. Yeah, if I gave that impression that was
Speaker 1: not the impression. You're right, Patrick Peterson knew from the
Speaker 1: beginning what was happening in ideally that is a gamble,
Speaker 1: where like there was the cornerbacks got to make that choice.
Speaker 1: But that's how much better Patrick Peterson was in that
Speaker 1: moment that that play was just on a platter for him.
Speaker 1: And much of what you want to see, right, much
Speaker 1: of what we've seen from Cooper Rush though, has been
Speaker 1: against backup. Yeah, he's never seen, so he's now starting
Speaker 1: to see. He last night he got to see there's
Speaker 1: a big difference between the backups and the start. You know,
Speaker 1: this offense though, I'll say this, if Scott Lanahan is
Speaker 1: going to continue to run this type of offense, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot more pick sixes because you have
Speaker 1: to you have to show that this dink and dunk
Speaker 1: stuff will work every now and again. But if you
Speaker 1: don't have the threat of a deep ball, then you know,
Speaker 1: there's no reason why Patrick Peterson should be one hundred
Speaker 1: percent convinced that Tavon Austin is not going to run
Speaker 1: by him, but he was because they're not gonna throw
Speaker 1: it deep like that. They're not going to do that. Well,
Speaker 1: they tried Michael Gallup and not and and Cooper rush
Speaker 1: overthrew Beasley, which I love that play. No, it was
Speaker 1: a good that was a good play design. But but
Speaker 1: that to me, was that the play design at the
Speaker 1: watch that again? Or did it kind of develop into that?
Speaker 1: Did he kind of break off? I mean, was he
Speaker 1: running deep or was it kind of a breakdown? I
Speaker 1: was like a double move type of situation. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's funny because we Jerry Jones talked about
Speaker 1: it after the game, and he kind of talked out
Speaker 1: of both sides of his mouth. He was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to say that we're gonna look for guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm not ready to say that I feel great
Speaker 1: about these two either, which that's kind of how I
Speaker 1: feel where. I'm like, if Dak Prescott for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: were to be unavailable for a period of lengthy period
Speaker 1: of time, like more than a game, I would be
Speaker 1: pretty worried. But I don't know how realistic it is
Speaker 1: to think that you're going to drastically upgrade this position.
Speaker 1: I know buddy at home is yelling about teddy Bridge
Speaker 1: Bridgewater right now too much. I was gonna say, what
Speaker 1: are you giving up for that, which and again, if
Speaker 1: Nick Voles hadn't just won the Super Bowl for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: I would just be like, everybody's screwed at backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: I can't completely discount that, Like, you can be better
Speaker 1: off at backup quarterback than this team is, clearly, but
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do about it right now.
Speaker 1: They could go get your him idol drew on a blank.
Speaker 1: Who's my idol? I don't even know if he's been
Speaker 1: hellable or not. Jay Cutler, Oh god, no please, I
Speaker 1: mean he is my idol, but he's a reality TV star.
Speaker 1: Now they don't need that. You know what I would
Speaker 1: have liked to see and touchdown, Yes, that would be yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but in the two first games. I mean, the preseason
Speaker 1: to me is the perfect time to try out different
Speaker 1: things and not worry about the outcome of the game
Speaker 1: at all. Obviously, but I would have liked to see
Speaker 1: them give some revs or like, maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: few snaps to Cooper Rush and even Mike White behind
Speaker 1: the whole first team offense and just kind of get
Speaker 1: a taste of what your backup quarterback could look like
Speaker 1: when and if that time comes, but with all the
Speaker 1: right guys around him, because again, we know Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. Yes he's good, but he's not at
Speaker 1: that greatness level. A lot of his good things about
Speaker 1: him comes along from the online and what they are
Speaker 1: able to do in the time they're able to buy him.
Speaker 1: So I would have loved to see that happening. Obviously,
Speaker 1: what isn't going to happen last night's game, but the
Speaker 1: first two games, when you're still kind of unsure of
Speaker 1: these two backup guys, why not give them a try,
Speaker 1: just a little bit, to get a quick little taste.
Speaker 1: The tough part about that is, though, then you got
Speaker 1: to make those decisions of are you going to take
Speaker 1: Dak off the field while your first team is still
Speaker 1: out there? And that means that that he's not getting
Speaker 1: those opportunities to get himself ready for the season. H
Speaker 1: And does that or does that mean you're going to
Speaker 1: take him out the normal time you would, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna keep those other guys tying Zach, you know, out
Speaker 1: there longer to be able to give this guy a
Speaker 1: look behind. That's the tough part. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you're right or wrong. I'm just saying that's too serious.
Speaker 1: But that is just that's what you got to think about.
Speaker 1: That's what the coaches have to think about, is we
Speaker 1: are exposing our guys a little bit longer, or we're
Speaker 1: not giving Dak the time that maybe he might need
Speaker 1: to get ready for the season. That's the hard part,
Speaker 1: you know. And this could always be famous last words,
Speaker 1: but I mean, you're young at quarterback. Dak is six two,
Speaker 1: two thirty and twenty four years old. This could be,
Speaker 1: you know, knock on wood, but I'm I'm way more
Speaker 1: worried about other aspects of this team than your depth
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Because da Dak, well, I mean, don't do it,
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. I
Speaker 1: mean injuries happening football. But Dak has given me no
Speaker 1: reason to be fearful for his health. Again, I can
Speaker 1: hear people screaming at me. I'm sorry, but I just
Speaker 1: don't understand that logic because college football players get hurt
Speaker 1: all the time, so to high school kids. I wasn't
Speaker 1: worried about Travis Frederick, but again, look what happened. It's
Speaker 1: it's the same logic y'all always use with me when
Speaker 1: I don't want to play for people in the preseason.
Speaker 1: They're like, injuries happen. Yeah, I mean obviously something terrible
Speaker 1: could happen to anybody playing, but at some point you
Speaker 1: just gotta do what you gotta do. Like, am I
Speaker 1: gonna give up a third round pick for Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: because I'm afraid Dak's gonna get hurt? I don't really
Speaker 1: want to do that. You have one, because you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to give it up for something I'd rather. I'd
Speaker 1: rather give that up for safety. Who can help me
Speaker 1: right now than a guy who I hope well actually
Speaker 1: about to go to break. When we come back from break,
Speaker 1: we do have to talk about the defense. They played
Speaker 1: really well, but they did sustain another injury at the
Speaker 1: safety position, and what does that mean. Let's do that
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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys take its time with us today
Speaker 1: we're dissecting that game from last night. I think that
Speaker 1: the crew kind of feels like it was much ado
Speaker 1: about nothing, literally and figuratively. But let's get into the defense.
Speaker 1: I thought Dave you mentioned earlier in the first segment
Speaker 1: that the defense, you thought the defense, first team defense
Speaker 1: played really well. That's now three games where all we've
Speaker 1: seen of this first team defense is really good football.
Speaker 1: How much are you buying into into that kind of
Speaker 1: hype and do you think that this team really has
Speaker 1: the ability maybe to make this defense not just pretty good,
Speaker 1: but maybe possibly elite. I'm buying everything I'm seeing so far,
Speaker 1: which is like, it's really promising. It's still preseason. I
Speaker 1: thought Sean Lee had a great quote last night. I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: but he essentially said, we gotta we gotta put the
Speaker 1: stats and the wins and the takeaways and this performance
Speaker 1: on paper for real before we can really talk about anything.
Speaker 1: And as of right now, we've proven nothing. And I
Speaker 1: think that's true. They the early returns are fantastic, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the linebackers are active, Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: looked fantastic last night. The whole pass rush really and
Speaker 1: that's even without Malie Collins playing. The cornerbacks not I mean,
Speaker 1: Cheeto and Byron have been good all training camp, but
Speaker 1: the guys on the back end of the depth chart
Speaker 1: really rebounded. I thought Jordan Lewis played great last night.
Speaker 1: Char Various Ward made two or three really nice plays
Speaker 1: before he got hurt. Cavon Frasier was flying around a
Speaker 1: lot to like, I gotta see it when it matters before.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here trying to convince anybody that this is
Speaker 1: a dominant because every time I think about I agree
Speaker 1: with that everything he's saying. Every time I think about
Speaker 1: how good this defense is looking, and it has looked really,
Speaker 1: really good. Can't you just see Christian McCaffrey just kind
Speaker 1: of going off in that first game, you know, in
Speaker 1: Carolina and break down and the linebacker wasn't there, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these forty five yards you don't
Speaker 1: see it. I don't, and maybe I should. The reason
Speaker 1: why I don't is because I think maybe for I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say the first time, but maybe first time in
Speaker 1: a long time. I think they got the kind of
Speaker 1: linebackers that can run. I mean, I've seen they've had
Speaker 1: some linebackers that are pretty good. These linebackers can run.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's running away from these guys. They can,
Speaker 1: they can move, and I think from that standpoint, like
Speaker 1: maybe a receiver does that. A guy like Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 1: though I'm not certain he can do that against this team.
Speaker 1: Well he can run, Yeah, he can run, he can run. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then they have another guy too, Samuel. I think
Speaker 1: we're not Samuel. Oh yeah. I'm just my my thing is.
Speaker 1: And I thought about that because you know, it's classic.
Speaker 1: It's fan one oh one to be like, whoa, we
Speaker 1: didn't have Tyrant and Zach. Of course we weren't any
Speaker 1: good Dackinzie. Of course they were bad. But then Cardinals
Speaker 1: fans are over there saying like, well, yeah, David Johnson
Speaker 1: didn't play. Who's Larry Fitzgerald didn't play? And so I'm
Speaker 1: racking my brain. Who's the baddest ass that has gone
Speaker 1: against this defense this preseason? Yeah? Probably aj Green? Yeah
Speaker 1: he had a nice I mean he had some nice games.
Speaker 1: In that game, he got behind the uh he and
Speaker 1: he caught at least one or two passes for some yards.
Speaker 1: I think he beat um was it cheetoh? Am? I
Speaker 1: making that up? I gotta but I'm again, I've been
Speaker 1: very impressed with what I've seen. But that's that's all
Speaker 1: you can say. I can't take that into the regular
Speaker 1: season and say this is what it will be very
Speaker 1: encouraging start, but it's still preseason football now. The big
Speaker 1: the big question mark now is they had another safety
Speaker 1: go down and Cavon Frasier he heard his shoulder. Um
Speaker 1: tell us the status of that injury and kind of
Speaker 1: where he is right now, or at least what they
Speaker 1: know at this point, not necessarily that they know everything
Speaker 1: at this point this morning. Um, I'm not seen yet
Speaker 1: the results are Am I missing that? No, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen anything. I mean, Cavon told everybody. Cavan and Jerry
Speaker 1: both said he'll probably be fine again. File this under
Speaker 1: football players are crazy, because he was saying he was like,
Speaker 1: I was trying to slam it back into place on
Speaker 1: the field so I wouldn't have to come off. And
Speaker 1: I'm just like I would be weeping in in the
Speaker 1: fetal position if that were me. That's why you don't play.
Speaker 1: I know. No, you're right. Um, he says he's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. He says, yeah, among other things. Um, that
Speaker 1: broke my heart. He says he was coming off and
Speaker 1: then he's trying to come off and then just falls
Speaker 1: down to the ground. I'm just glad it wasn't worse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: down goes Frazier really hood type. Oh I didn't even know. Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't even put that footype. That nice. Not you,
Speaker 1: not me. Wow, that's an upset. That's a good Hopefully
Speaker 1: it's the only time we ever used that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't. Oh yeah, that's good. Nice And the best
Speaker 1: part about that is that reference is still like forty
Speaker 1: years before Kent was even born. No doubt it was
Speaker 1: a good um. He said he would come back in
Speaker 1: if it was a regular season game. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's true. That's you can never hundred percent take
Speaker 1: a player's word for it, because they're going to try
Speaker 1: to play. They're you know, they are trying to downplay
Speaker 1: it so they can get back on. They're wanting to
Speaker 1: play with the blood clot exactly for sure. So whatever
Speaker 1: was going on, Yeah, he's like, I think he's fine,
Speaker 1: but that bears monitoring because the player's assessment of himself
Speaker 1: is usually a little more optimistic than the one hundred
Speaker 1: percent truth. But just from talking to him last night,
Speaker 1: he said he wasn't even really in any pain, So
Speaker 1: I think he's okay. Especially he's probably not a guy
Speaker 1: that would play on Thursday anyway, so I think, you know,
Speaker 1: with ten or twelve days whatever it is to get ready,
Speaker 1: I think he'll be Okay. That would have been an iffy.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, with with let's say Xavier Woods
Speaker 1: was healthy, I think Frasier might have played. I mean
Speaker 1: it's possible, possible, But now I think I agree with
Speaker 1: the injury, plus the situation that they have to count
Speaker 1: on him to be a starters, they don't do anything.
Speaker 1: I wrote that last week is like not that I
Speaker 1: thought Cavan Frasier was making this team from day one,
Speaker 1: but if for some reason there was doubt, it's gone.
Speaker 1: I mean, like he's yeah, you got to think of
Speaker 1: him as your starter for the time being, unless something
Speaker 1: happens in the next week. I'll tell you who I
Speaker 1: did not like out of there really was Marqueston huff.
Speaker 1: I thought there was a couple of plays where he
Speaker 1: just looked like a guy that hadn't played in a while.
Speaker 1: Angles weren't good, and that you have to have good
Speaker 1: angles at safe that touchdown his a little bit of
Speaker 1: his work. Yeah, it was all his, yes, all right,
Speaker 1: not all I mean it was a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: He had a shot he made took back where you
Speaker 1: go to school, Wyoming, maybe Marqueston, No, maybe not Wyoming.
Speaker 1: I don't remember something like that. Wherever it was like
Speaker 1: high school college of like, Oh, I'm faster, I can
Speaker 1: go get this guy and next thing you know, he's
Speaker 1: just That would have been like a nine yard game
Speaker 1: if he had taken a better angle or gotten there quicker. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So do you think the Cowboys have to at this
Speaker 1: point go out and try to find more bodies because
Speaker 1: of the fact that obviously Xavier Woods is injured and
Speaker 1: now you don't know, I mean you think, but even
Speaker 1: if he's fine with a dislocated shoulder, does that make
Speaker 1: you nervous or it should it make the Cowboys nervous
Speaker 1: enough to where they need to find more bodies just
Speaker 1: to have going into the season. I'll say this, and
Speaker 1: this is just my perception. M I feel that Chris
Speaker 1: Richard he's a very front guy and he doesn't really
Speaker 1: dance around his answers or hesitate when answering. He's very direct.
Speaker 1: Last night during the locker room, when the media was
Speaker 1: talking to him and asked him about the safety position
Speaker 1: and concerns there, he didn't, as he said, he didn't
Speaker 1: really know the severity of Cavon's injury, but when asked
Speaker 1: about what's happening with safety, I felt that his answer
Speaker 1: he still gave somewhat of you know, what you expect
Speaker 1: to hear, but the way he answered it wasn't as
Speaker 1: confident and direct as he usually is. It was more
Speaker 1: kind of like, um, trying words to say what he
Speaker 1: needs to say, but fighting off. I guess what he's
Speaker 1: feeling inside, you know, exactly exactly. So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is getting a little out of hand. I mean,
Speaker 1: at some point, you know, he's he's like I mean
Speaker 1: even he's probably the most optimistic person there is, But
Speaker 1: at some point it's like, all right, well, what else
Speaker 1: has to happen here? I mean, we've got to do something.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's not the guy that everybody wants or
Speaker 1: that I want, but I mean it's got to be
Speaker 1: somebody else. Um. I think when that when that waiver
Speaker 1: wire hits on Saturday, Um, there's gonna it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of trades. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a really crazy Saturday and Sunday. I hope it doesn't
Speaker 1: bleed into the Sunday night game. Yeah, it'd be nice.
Speaker 1: I mean I won't get all that stuff done before
Speaker 1: Sunday night. I'm gonna I'll need an assist if that's
Speaker 1: what happens, because I won't be in any condition. Yeah
Speaker 1: about I don't know if I even want you writing
Speaker 1: anything coming Sunday night. That's probably a bad idea. LSU
Speaker 1: Miami at the stadium. I'll be there. That's awesome you going.
Speaker 1: We'll see I might be the one having to write
Speaker 1: somebody stories, might be the one that gets tagged in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to write that night a team where you are believing
Speaker 1: Dave has done it for on the other side more
Speaker 1: times than than I had not even that. It just
Speaker 1: does all the all the time. So hopefully though it'll
Speaker 1: be because and we're speaking like this because we've we've
Speaker 1: seen it too often. The cuts will be made five
Speaker 1: three o'clock, five o'clock on Saturday, something like that. Um,
Speaker 1: they changed that rule a couple of years ago, or
Speaker 1: change the time, but it'll be Saturday afternoon. Don't make
Speaker 1: the cuts. Somebody, probably even on our staff, we'll say
Speaker 1: something stupid than say final cuts when nothing is really final.
Speaker 1: And then and then the waiver we're wire, we'll start it.
Speaker 1: It'll be weird. Yeah. Uh. Then twenty four hours from that,
Speaker 1: some guy thinks he's made the team. He's gonna get cut.
Speaker 1: They're gonna pick up a claiming the guy off waiver,
Speaker 1: they're gonna make a trade. I feel for that guy
Speaker 1: even more than I feel fairy the first wave, because
Speaker 1: if you think, you know, they call home, tell the
Speaker 1: family I made it on the team. And then they
Speaker 1: get that phone call a day later, and it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who I don't feel bead for. I
Speaker 1: don't feel bad for the guy who makes the team
Speaker 1: on that Saturday and then goes to watch his college
Speaker 1: football team play. And then it gets told by a teammate, hey,
Speaker 1: come on, we better make it for this eight am meeting,
Speaker 1: and he says, nah, I'll be fine, I'll get there later,
Speaker 1: and then doesn't show up, and then it gets cut.
Speaker 1: Who would do that? Anybody would do that? And then
Speaker 1: never plays in the league again. Don't do that? All right? Um,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about Randy Gregory who got a sack
Speaker 1: last night, played pretty well, continues to play really well, um,
Speaker 1: and then after the game, some report comes up to
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Wait, wait, Clarence Hill and the press.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry sorry to cut you off, but Clarence Hill
Speaker 1: and a veteran sportswriter in the press, products actually cut
Speaker 1: somebody off or saying, that's the same thing about report,
Speaker 1: and he says, no, that's not a report, is an
Speaker 1: actual story. That is a rumor. Yeah, that's a rum
Speaker 1: you know. And that's where I was going with it.
Speaker 1: And you're right, I should correct that and say it better.
Speaker 1: And I told you this this morning in my office.
Speaker 1: Anytime I see one person, one person that says something
Speaker 1: on Twitter that's that big and no one corroborates it.
Speaker 1: You don't hear any of the national guys, the Schefters,
Speaker 1: the Mortenson's, nobody was out there saying I'm hearing it too.
Speaker 1: That makes me question the validity of the tweet. And
Speaker 1: certainly there hasn't been anything else that's come out about it.
Speaker 1: Last night, it seemed to be everywhere and everybody was
Speaker 1: talking about it, but nobody could corroborate it. And that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean to say that maybe something comes out later.
Speaker 1: Who knows. All I'm saying is at this point, and
Speaker 1: I assume you guys can can chime in on this.
Speaker 1: At this point, it doesn't seem like there's much to this.
Speaker 1: The tweet said, I expect, but I'm hearing there might
Speaker 1: be more trouble on the horizon for Randy Gray. This
Speaker 1: is a former NFL writer, Yes, former NFL. He's now
Speaker 1: with Yahoo. I think I thought he was a CBS.
Speaker 1: Maybe c couldn't even tell you for sure. Um, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it's it's I'm at At best it's reckless and at
Speaker 1: worst it's malicious. Honestly, Wow, No, I mean that's true. No,
Speaker 1: I get it, but that would be really that Really
Speaker 1: it's best it's reckless speak. I mean, give me something
Speaker 1: follow up or wait to get you put somebody's name
Speaker 1: out there like that without having more than just absolutely
Speaker 1: I'm hearing, and I don't really believe this. I work
Speaker 1: in media. I understand the way it works too well
Speaker 1: to think that it's genuinely malicious, But like you could
Speaker 1: convince me that it is in a worst case scenario,
Speaker 1: because it's so just brazenly outside of what you would
Speaker 1: consider like ethical or respond consible journalism. And the thing
Speaker 1: that sucks for Randy Gregory. And we asked Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: last night Randy didn't talk. We asked Jerry Jones, he said,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything other than that we know that
Speaker 1: this is going to be a daily battle where Randy's
Speaker 1: always going to have to worry about this, which is
Speaker 1: he said that more times than I can count. He said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: why would we be playing if we didn't expect him
Speaker 1: to be ready for the start of the season. Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones follows that up today by saying, we haven't heard anything,
Speaker 1: but the club is not part of the league's process,
Speaker 1: so we would be the last people to know if
Speaker 1: there was anything. Which if you're listening at home and
Speaker 1: you kind of don't understand the way this works is
Speaker 1: a lot of these national reporters have sources within the
Speaker 1: league office, Like they're not hearing this from Cowboys sources,
Speaker 1: which is where we get most of our information. It's
Speaker 1: very plausible that he that there could be a source
Speaker 1: in the league office in New York that told him something.
Speaker 1: That was primarily the reason. Also though that I said
Speaker 1: that it was curious to me that you didn't have
Speaker 1: other national guys chime because they also have sources at
Speaker 1: the league and sense then I mean, I think every
Speaker 1: reporter in the Dallas area has has gotten in touch
Speaker 1: with a Cowboys source who says we haven't heard anything.
Speaker 1: I've heard other things from people who have sources in
Speaker 1: the league office who are like, we don't know what
Speaker 1: that's about. So as of right now, like I'm tempted
Speaker 1: to say it's bs. But the thing that sucks is, well,
Speaker 1: it's such a fine it's going to remain such a
Speaker 1: fine line for Randy Gregory for the foreseeable future. Is
Speaker 1: as I understand it, forget a failed drug test. A
Speaker 1: missed drug test is game over. You know, it's so
Speaker 1: season over. He could he could very well be right,
Speaker 1: just because Randy has such a fine line to walk.
Speaker 1: But as of right now, I haven't heard anything that
Speaker 1: suggests there's anything to that, which to circle back, why
Speaker 1: are you quote unquote reporting it if you don't have
Speaker 1: anything else to go on. It's reckless. And I just
Speaker 1: thought it sucked. And then the thing that's sucks even
Speaker 1: more about it is that you want to be excited
Speaker 1: about it for him, You want you want to pull
Speaker 1: for him, and you watch him on the field and
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Arizona was trying to block him
Speaker 1: with a left tackle and a running back and he
Speaker 1: on the sack that he made And I know I
Speaker 1: said this to you in the press box, but everything
Speaker 1: you want out of a pass rusher, he gave it
Speaker 1: to you right there. He gave I mean he was
Speaker 1: the first off the line. I mean he burst off
Speaker 1: the line, the left tackle had no shot. Then then
Speaker 1: he like bull rushed him back. The running back tried
Speaker 1: to get in the way. He spun through that, and
Speaker 1: then the awareness to find the quarterback and then bring
Speaker 1: him down. I mean, the only thing you didn't do
Speaker 1: was was stripped the ball for a fumble. I mean,
Speaker 1: like it was an outstanding play. I know it was
Speaker 1: one play, but it was a really an outstanding play
Speaker 1: that showed, man, this guy's got all the tools and
Speaker 1: look kind of real quick. I can't if you can
Speaker 1: play that, Clay. You just played the clip of it,
Speaker 1: play it back, because I want fans to see how
Speaker 1: quickly he got off the ball. And it wasn't an
Speaker 1: off size penalty. He got off the ball. He was
Speaker 1: already running before the offensive line even moved. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just and that shows you just how athletic,
Speaker 1: how quick this guy is. Like when he showed the
Speaker 1: when you showed the view that was from the end zone,
Speaker 1: you could see it really well. It was just it's
Speaker 1: amazing how fast, how quick he gets off the ball
Speaker 1: and uh and was into into the offensive lineman before
Speaker 1: he even was out of his stance. And that's that's
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. It's pretty remarkable. It's amazing. I mean, a
Speaker 1: full beat before anybody even moves. That wasn't much of
Speaker 1: a chip there. No, we probably and we've we're talking
Speaker 1: about it. We've talked a lot about it. We're still
Speaker 1: probably not talking enough about how amazing it is that
Speaker 1: he's made as much progress as he has. And who
Speaker 1: knows if it carries forward to the regular season. Who
Speaker 1: knows for sure if he even plays in the regular season, apparently,
Speaker 1: but it's remarkable how much he has done. I mean,
Speaker 1: he missed the first two weeks of camp because they
Speaker 1: were being careful with him, and he's just been it's
Speaker 1: been a freight train since. It's been crazy. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: take our final break, will come back. I want to
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Speaker 1: to start with a call from Al in Pennsylvania. Al,
Speaker 1: what up here's up, guys. What's up? Hi? Amber? How
Speaker 1: are you? Just a few things? Have a lot. Since
Speaker 1: I've done the roster about four times, forty three minute
Speaker 1: roster and the Steve go with seven wide receivers, I
Speaker 1: would go all four of our halfbacks. Since the identity
Speaker 1: of our team is running, I would take all of them.
Speaker 1: In regards to Rico Gathers, I'm sick of him. He
Speaker 1: blew a hot read last night. And my idea is this,
Speaker 1: if you're if you are drafted and you miss all
Speaker 1: of last year, are you putting? Is he putting in
Speaker 1: the same kind of time that Sean Lee was putting
Speaker 1: in when he was injured. I don't think he is,
Speaker 1: so I don't think he's committed. And in regards to
Speaker 1: why are we saving a nice chair on top of
Speaker 1: the game last night? For us, positively we have been
Speaker 1: Dan Bailly kicking a field goal, not some guys gonna
Speaker 1: get cut. I didn't like Austin's effort level. When mister
Speaker 1: Peterson's running down the sidelines, he could at least try
Speaker 1: and tag called the guy like Zeke last year in Denver.
Speaker 1: And to answer your questions, Derek, real quick, I'm an
Speaker 1: old School Cowboys fan, I would like to say, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, preseason at least get a few
Speaker 1: a few series to, you know, to get ready for
Speaker 1: the series, to get ready for the season. Because when
Speaker 1: Zeke fumbles, like he has the second game of the
Speaker 1: second week his rookie year at Washington and last year
Speaker 1: when he got off to a slow start, is coach
Speaker 1: Jones going to raise his hand say sorry, I sabotaged
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and preseason game three. Thanks. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: know the last apartment, but I don't know either man
Speaker 1: that that is He's take a breath. That was brought
Speaker 1: his first point. I actually thought like that has some
Speaker 1: merit to it. I love it he got to it first.
Speaker 1: But but no, let's let's let's talk about that first point.
Speaker 1: Because his point was, look, you have a team that
Speaker 1: is built around the running game, why wouldn't you carry
Speaker 1: more running backs than carrying more receivers? And I heard
Speaker 1: Brian even further that point a little bit earlier, and
Speaker 1: he was saying, especially when you got a bunch of
Speaker 1: receivers that are very much the same from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of their level of expected production, Like there's not a
Speaker 1: big difference between these guys. So if that's the case,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you try to maybe carry an additional running
Speaker 1: back or two additional running backs and only go five
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Listen, because you have the best running back
Speaker 1: in the NFL arguably. I mean, if he's not here,
Speaker 1: he's in Pittsburgh or LA. I mean, like, this is
Speaker 1: one of the top three backs in the league. So
Speaker 1: what is four running backs going to do for you?
Speaker 1: What is Darius Jackson or an Scarborough going to do
Speaker 1: for you when you don't really want to give either
Speaker 1: one of them to football? I don't under I mean,
Speaker 1: I get the point about the running team, and if
Speaker 1: you had a bunch of running backs that were kind
Speaker 1: of all the same, that makes sense. But you know,
Speaker 1: like New England can carry four running backs because none
Speaker 1: of them are that much different than each other. But
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case here. Not only that,
Speaker 1: and y'all know I'm a fan of both of those guys.
Speaker 1: I love Darius Jackson, and I've said before how unique
Speaker 1: I think Bo's skill set is. You're still I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're in dire straits, like they're not giving you
Speaker 1: anything that you can't find around the NFL, like I mean,
Speaker 1: can go back to the draft day debate if you
Speaker 1: want to about the nature of the running back position,
Speaker 1: especially if you have a good offensive line, it's easily filled.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you get to that point
Speaker 1: where you need both of those guys, somebody's on a
Speaker 1: practice squad or on the street. Even so, that doesn't
Speaker 1: worry me. I will. I mean, I have made the
Speaker 1: argument that you could keep seven receivers before. I certainly
Speaker 1: don't feel like that's necessary as we sit here today.
Speaker 1: Six still feels realistic to me. But even if you
Speaker 1: want to go five, that's fine. But I would use
Speaker 1: that roster spot on something like safety or offensive line
Speaker 1: before I worried about running back. There was one of
Speaker 1: his points I was like, in the middle, I can't
Speaker 1: Rico was a second point that he made. He was
Speaker 1: saying that he's tired of Rico. He says it he
Speaker 1: doesn't think Rico puts in the amount of work necessary.
Speaker 1: You know what, if you're starting to compare people's efforts
Speaker 1: with Sean Lee and the film, you're gonna have fifty
Speaker 1: two guys that need to be cut because nobody does
Speaker 1: what Sean Lee does. And I understand the point about
Speaker 1: if you're hurt and you're banged up and all that,
Speaker 1: but I think that you might be or might be forgetting.
Speaker 1: And I think all of us aren't really sure what happened.
Speaker 1: Nobody really knows what happened last year with Rico. Not
Speaker 1: on the outside. There's a weird thing. I've never seen
Speaker 1: it before. Concussion in the middle of the training camp
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he's out for the
Speaker 1: whole season. I think there's more to it than that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know about his effort and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I think that that was a two way street. I
Speaker 1: know he's here, he's committed, he's playing. Yes, he has
Speaker 1: some busts, whatever, But you also can't ignore the fact
Speaker 1: that he makes more play. He's making plays out there
Speaker 1: when he's getting the opportunity. He catches the ball just
Speaker 1: about every time. He's got big, strong hands. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are things that are correctable, in my opinion, that
Speaker 1: you can do with him. I think he's in every
Speaker 1: day every game inactive That's what I think. I think
Speaker 1: he'll be the highest paid practice quad player in the
Speaker 1: league because I think he'll be on the team inactive
Speaker 1: and I think that's a waste. If they put him
Speaker 1: on this roster and they don't find a way to
Speaker 1: use him, if for nothing else then to give you
Speaker 1: another option in the red zone, I think that's a
Speaker 1: waste and it's not worth maybe keeping him on this roster.
Speaker 1: Just look, I mean, just look at where he is
Speaker 1: and what he's continuing to get better. He's going to
Speaker 1: continue to learn. Now, if this thing goes bad and
Speaker 1: there's a new offense and all that stuff, that could
Speaker 1: be a huge setback. But I just think you know
Speaker 1: this is you want him to If you could get
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad, you would do it. I
Speaker 1: don't just don't know if you can. You might, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can. I want to address the last
Speaker 1: thing and talk about a player who's actually gonna make
Speaker 1: a difference for the Cowboys this year. Sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I don't know why I felt the need
Speaker 1: to take a shot like that, but okay, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Week two against the Broncos is the
Speaker 1: worst game of Ezekiel Elliott's career to this point, and
Speaker 1: in his second game against the Redskins in his rookie year,
Speaker 1: he had fumble problems. We talk about him playing poorly
Speaker 1: against the Giants in twenty sixteen, he had eighty three
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown in his first nflme that was
Speaker 1: a really good defense, and miss me with that. He
Speaker 1: ran for one hundred and four yards on twenty four carries,
Speaker 1: averaged four yards four point three per carry, and had
Speaker 1: five receptions for thirty six in the season opener last year.
Speaker 1: If that's a bad game, it's not great by the
Speaker 1: standard that we've gotten used to from Zeke. If that's
Speaker 1: a bad game, miss me with that too. So basically
Speaker 1: what you're saying is by not getting a lot of
Speaker 1: work in the preseason, Zeke plays solid in the opener
Speaker 1: and then forgets how to play in Week two. That No,
Speaker 1: that's craps got to give then in Week two because
Speaker 1: he's not a good Week two player, But he's pretty
Speaker 1: good against the Giants. So it's pretty good against the Giants.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give there, that's true. I think. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: those are better stats than I thought at a Week one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Week two both of those years. Week two
Speaker 1: was I mean, yeah, he fumbled twice against the Redskins
Speaker 1: and everybody was ready to set him. Yeah he did,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying they remember Week three against the Bears,
Speaker 1: was like Morris needs to play, and then Zeke ran
Speaker 1: for one forty five or something, hurdling people. Um, I
Speaker 1: just Zeke is on that level. He is. If he's
Speaker 1: not the best back in the game, he's in the conversation,
Speaker 1: and I just don't think he needs to be out
Speaker 1: there in the preseason. Yeah, you mentioned the New York
Speaker 1: Giants agree real quick, got your boy got paid? Yeah,
Speaker 1: got paid five years, ninety five million dollars sixty five
Speaker 1: million guaranteed for a wide receiver, and the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: going the opposite way. That's the interesting part is the
Speaker 1: strategy of the Cowboys is, hey, we're not gonna necessarily
Speaker 1: go with the high paid wide receiver. We're gonna kind
Speaker 1: of mix what if they had that blond haired guy
Speaker 1: running around. I get I get that, but but their strategy,
Speaker 1: like they let DEAs walk, and their strategy was, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go the route of really focusing on our passing
Speaker 1: game and we on our running game, and we think
Speaker 1: we can use receivers at a little more middle level
Speaker 1: to be able to get the story. Now that may
Speaker 1: change next year if they're if if all the wheels
Speaker 1: fall off and they're drafting in the top five and
Speaker 1: there's this really really great wide receiver, then strategy shift
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now we're gonna get a
Speaker 1: high party. I mean a high you know, a high
Speaker 1: draft choice wide receiver. But right now, it's just interesting
Speaker 1: the difference in strategy in forty seven career games from
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. He's played forty seven career games in the
Speaker 1: past fifteen years. No wide out in the NFL has
Speaker 1: more catches, yards or touchdowns to this point in his career.
Speaker 1: So he's pretty damn good. You know, when you think
Speaker 1: about athletically of the running backs in the league, I
Speaker 1: know he hasn't played a snap, but I know se
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley athletically does things that a lot of running
Speaker 1: backs really can't do. We'll see how he goes to
Speaker 1: the field athletically. I don't know if there's anyone that's
Speaker 1: really better than him than O'Dell. Maybe Antonio Brown, but
Speaker 1: he's not as I mean, it's not the same type
Speaker 1: of athletic player tight end. I mean, Evan Ingram is
Speaker 1: one of the more athletic tight ends. So they've got
Speaker 1: from a skill set standpoint, and they got a quarterback
Speaker 1: doesn't miss that many. He doesn't miss any games if
Speaker 1: if he's not, you know, if there's own team, that's
Speaker 1: their big question mark. Now, how are they gonna pay one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: although which they drafted one, right or two? I mean
Speaker 1: they drafted Flowers and he's I know, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: but no, you're right, they think they drafted first or
Speaker 1: second round. They drafted they drafted Will Hernandez. That's right, right, Yeah, Actually, well,
Speaker 1: I know we're not into the we're not into the
Speaker 1: week by week, you know, routine of the season yet.
Speaker 1: But Olivier Vernon twisted his ankle pretty seriously and it
Speaker 1: sounds like it's gonna be dicey if he's there for
Speaker 1: the season opener, which if it's dicey for the opener,
Speaker 1: maybe it's dicey for week two. Also, we'll see that
Speaker 1: defense is really good. Remember last year when the Beckham
Speaker 1: thing went out and was it was it you that
Speaker 1: were like, he's not playing and I was like, definitely
Speaker 1: he's playing, And you said I saw him his eyes
Speaker 1: or something like that, he's not playing. I don't remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was totally awful on that one. Was right, she
Speaker 1: saw it in his eyes that that was maybe I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of upthing different. It was. It's funny though, I
Speaker 1: mean I remember there's what Odell's probably played six games
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys at this point, because I know he missed.
Speaker 1: If he didn't miss both games last year, then he
Speaker 1: missed at least one. Like he's back. He obviously had
Speaker 1: the amazing game in fourteen with the one hander. That
Speaker 1: was when he hit the scene like nably so um,
Speaker 1: and he caught two touchdowns in his first game against
Speaker 1: them that year. But like other than those two, really
Speaker 1: he hadn't He has not killed the cow There was
Speaker 1: a game, Was it the same game with the one hander?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. There was a game that was
Speaker 1: really close and he caught a slant over the middle
Speaker 1: just broke away from Church. It was that was the
Speaker 1: That was the second game that the Cowboys or the
Speaker 1: that was the ten seven was the ten seven game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the only play he made. It was only
Speaker 1: play anybody made in that crytastic game. Yeah, you're right, okay,
Speaker 1: so that was that was one I remember of him,
Speaker 1: just like you know, hey, Brenda car has been playing
Speaker 1: pretty good. That's right, you know, so he but I
Speaker 1: mean he's had eight possible chances to play the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and all things considered, he has not just crushed them
Speaker 1: the way that some other rival players good. But you
Speaker 1: know the interesting part of that, that seems to be
Speaker 1: the way good. That seems to be the way it
Speaker 1: is a lot of times though, in divisions where you
Speaker 1: know you have a really great player and they're good
Speaker 1: against the rest of the league, and where they find
Speaker 1: their struggles a lot of times will happen against division teams,
Speaker 1: and I think it's because they know him so well
Speaker 1: they know how to take away some of the things
Speaker 1: they like that. It doesn't mean they're not gonna be
Speaker 1: great still, But sometimes division if you go and look
Speaker 1: at like stats of really great players, usually you'll find
Speaker 1: a game or two every season where they're in the
Speaker 1: division where it's not that great absolutely and your division
Speaker 1: opponents are gonna know you better. But like ask Giants
Speaker 1: fans about Jason Witt and I bet you they'll they
Speaker 1: feel some type of way about that. Or Fletcher Cox
Speaker 1: comes to mind, like he always seems like he shows
Speaker 1: up when he plays the Cowboys. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: just something to keep an eye on. Now that I've
Speaker 1: said this, Odell's gonna catch ten for two. Yeah, crazy Sunday,
Speaker 1: but he is a rich man. Now is a very
Speaker 1: time forty one million guaranteed. Yeah, all right, We appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. Check the
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