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Speaker 1: It is a Monday. It's Monday, two August twenty seventh,

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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, Season fourteen, episode number bettage two. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Break. I'm Derrek keep thirty two. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Why you didn't understand what I said? No, I ain't

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Speaker 1: hear it. I wanted to make sure I was on

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Speaker 1: the same page of what I keep up. I do

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Speaker 1: keep us Scandric episode, It is a scandridas grumpy. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: do you have to ask for that? I'm a Lumba,

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Speaker 1: Donovan Lumba. Welcome to the s WBC Mortgage Studios. We're

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Speaker 1: coming off a game Cowboys lose last night, twenty seven

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Speaker 1: to nothing. No, no, no, no, you're just gonna short

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Speaker 1: change Brett Marr like that. Oh sorry, right, No I did,

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Speaker 1: I did. I don't even remember those last three points

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Speaker 1: twenty seven to three. All right, so twenty seven to three, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they didn't get picked out. Friends, Okay, maybe they didn't

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Speaker 1: get shut out, But we're gonna talk. We're gonna put

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Speaker 1: that all in perspective today because I've seen all kinds

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Speaker 1: of stuff on social media, which of course social media

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Speaker 1: always goes a little crazy with things. But we're gonna

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Speaker 1: put it in perspective today. We're gonna talk to you

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Speaker 1: guys about what we think that all means, if it

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Speaker 1: means anything with it being a preseason game and with

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Speaker 1: the guys that the Cowboys had out there, but I

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Speaker 1: do throughout the show, I want to hear from you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I want you to give us a call and let

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Speaker 1: us know what you think, what maybe you're concerned about

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Speaker 1: as as you watch that game last night, as we

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Speaker 1: have one more preseason game this week and then next

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Speaker 1: to know what fans are concerned about. What are the

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Speaker 1: things that that you coming off this preseason are are

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Speaker 1: wondering if the Cowboys are gonna be able to get

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Speaker 1: better at and be able to be able to compete

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Speaker 1: in those areas call us eight eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: the conversation. How's everybody doing today. We're good, I'm awesome, Yeah, good, perfect,

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's let's get into Let's get into

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Speaker 1: the conversation on the game. I guess as a big

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Speaker 1: picture thing, I'd like you guys to tell me first

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Speaker 1: how dismissive or not you are of what happened last night. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the starters on offense primarily didn't play. The veteran starters

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Speaker 1: of defensive starters that didn't play. Although the first team

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Speaker 1: defense did get a chance to get out there, Cowboys

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Speaker 1: just look completely out of it from from the word go, and,

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Speaker 1: as we said, end up losing twenty seven two three.

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Speaker 1: Tell me how dismissive you are or not of what

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Speaker 1: Nick Well, I thought, you know, let's let's look at

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Speaker 1: some of the positives. I mean, the defense. First team

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Speaker 1: the defense. I thought they've looked good all preseason, they

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Speaker 1: very fast. Uh, there's some very positive things to point

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Speaker 1: So that's the positive thing that came out. I'll let

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Speaker 1: someone else talk about maybe the flip side of it,

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Speaker 1: the difference talk about the negative. Whoative the one negative?

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Speaker 1: putting an effort out there. It's not about effort. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald and David Johnson didn't play in this game

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Speaker 1: The offense looked pretty awful pathetic. They were going against

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Speaker 1: you're running back is not going to play a preseason snap.

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Speaker 1: So that was disappointing. And the tough part for him

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Speaker 1: which it is tragic because I think he's had a

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Speaker 1: to the Brink, Welcome Back. It's the second segment of

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Speaker 1: The Break live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys take its time with us today

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Speaker 1: we're dissecting that game from last night. I think that

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Speaker 1: the crew kind of feels like it was much ado

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Speaker 1: about nothing, literally and figuratively. But let's get into the defense.

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Speaker 1: I thought Dave you mentioned earlier in the first segment

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Speaker 1: that the defense, you thought the defense, first team defense

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Speaker 1: played really well. That's now three games where all we've

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Speaker 1: seen of this first team defense is really good football.

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Speaker 1: How much are you buying into into that kind of

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Speaker 1: hype and do you think that this team really has

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Speaker 1: the ability maybe to make this defense not just pretty good,

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Speaker 1: but maybe possibly elite. I'm buying everything I'm seeing so far,

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Speaker 1: which is like, it's really promising. It's still preseason. I

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Speaker 1: thought Sean Lee had a great quote last night. I'm paraphrasing,

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Speaker 1: but he essentially said, we gotta we gotta put the

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Speaker 1: stats and the wins and the takeaways and this performance

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Speaker 1: on paper for real before we can really talk about anything.

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Speaker 1: And as of right now, we've proven nothing. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's true. They the early returns are fantastic, Like

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the linebackers are active, Randy Gregory

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Speaker 1: looked fantastic last night. The whole pass rush really and

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Speaker 1: that's even without Malie Collins playing. The cornerbacks not I mean,

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Speaker 1: Cheeto and Byron have been good all training camp, but

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Speaker 1: the guys on the back end of the depth chart

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Speaker 1: really rebounded. I thought Jordan Lewis played great last night.

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Speaker 1: Char Various Ward made two or three really nice plays

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Speaker 1: before he got hurt. Cavon Frasier was flying around a

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Speaker 1: lot to like, I gotta see it when it matters before.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here trying to convince anybody that this is

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Speaker 1: a dominant because every time I think about I agree

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Speaker 1: with that everything he's saying. Every time I think about

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Speaker 1: how good this defense is looking, and it has looked really,

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Speaker 1: really good. Can't you just see Christian McCaffrey just kind

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Speaker 1: of going off in that first game, you know, in

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Speaker 1: Carolina and break down and the linebacker wasn't there, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these forty five yards you don't

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Speaker 1: see it. I don't, and maybe I should. The reason

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Speaker 1: why I don't is because I think maybe for I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't say the first time, but maybe first time in

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Speaker 1: a long time. I think they got the kind of

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Speaker 1: linebackers that can run. I mean, I've seen they've had

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Speaker 1: some linebackers that are pretty good. These linebackers can run.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's running away from these guys. They can,

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Speaker 1: they can move, and I think from that standpoint, like

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Speaker 1: maybe a receiver does that. A guy like Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: though I'm not certain he can do that against this team.

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Speaker 1: Well he can run, Yeah, he can run, he can run. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then they have another guy too, Samuel. I think

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Speaker 1: we're not Samuel. Oh yeah. I'm just my my thing is.

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Speaker 1: And I thought about that because you know, it's classic.

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Speaker 1: It's fan one oh one to be like, whoa, we

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Speaker 1: didn't have Tyrant and Zach. Of course we weren't any

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Speaker 1: good Dackinzie. Of course they were bad. But then Cardinals

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Speaker 1: fans are over there saying like, well, yeah, David Johnson

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Speaker 1: didn't play. Who's Larry Fitzgerald didn't play? And so I'm

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Speaker 1: racking my brain. Who's the baddest ass that has gone

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Speaker 1: against this defense this preseason? Yeah? Probably aj Green? Yeah

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Speaker 1: he had a nice I mean he had some nice games.

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Speaker 1: In that game, he got behind the uh he and

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Speaker 1: he caught at least one or two passes for some yards.

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Speaker 1: I think he beat um was it cheetoh? Am? I

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Speaker 1: making that up? I gotta but I'm again, I've been

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Speaker 1: very impressed with what I've seen. But that's that's all

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Speaker 1: you can say. I can't take that into the regular

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Speaker 1: season and say this is what it will be very

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Speaker 1: encouraging start, but it's still preseason football now. The big

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Speaker 1: the big question mark now is they had another safety

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Speaker 1: go down and Cavon Frasier he heard his shoulder. Um

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Speaker 1: tell us the status of that injury and kind of

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Speaker 1: where he is right now, or at least what they

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Speaker 1: know at this point, not necessarily that they know everything

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Speaker 1: at this point this morning. Um, I'm not seen yet

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Speaker 1: the results are Am I missing that? No, I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen anything. I mean, Cavon told everybody. Cavan and Jerry

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Speaker 1: both said he'll probably be fine again. File this under

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Speaker 1: football players are crazy, because he was saying he was like,

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Speaker 1: I was trying to slam it back into place on

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Speaker 1: the field so I wouldn't have to come off. And

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Speaker 1: I'm just like I would be weeping in in the

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Speaker 1: fetal position if that were me. That's why you don't play.

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Speaker 1: I know. No, you're right. Um, he says he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fine. He says, yeah, among other things. Um, that

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Speaker 1: broke my heart. He says he was coming off and

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Speaker 1: then he's trying to come off and then just falls

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Speaker 1: down to the ground. I'm just glad it wasn't worse. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: down goes Frazier really hood type. Oh I didn't even know. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even put that footype. That nice. Not you,

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Speaker 1: not me. Wow, that's an upset. That's a good Hopefully

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Speaker 1: it's the only time we ever used that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't. Oh yeah, that's good. Nice And the best

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Speaker 1: part about that is that reference is still like forty

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Speaker 1: years before Kent was even born. No doubt it was

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Speaker 1: a good um. He said he would come back in

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Speaker 1: if it was a regular season game. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's true. That's you can never hundred percent take

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Speaker 1: a player's word for it, because they're going to try

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Speaker 1: to play. They're you know, they are trying to downplay

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Speaker 1: it so they can get back on. They're wanting to

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Speaker 1: play with the blood clot exactly for sure. So whatever

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Speaker 1: was going on, Yeah, he's like, I think he's fine,

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Speaker 1: but that bears monitoring because the player's assessment of himself

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Speaker 1: is usually a little more optimistic than the one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent truth. But just from talking to him last night,

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Speaker 1: he said he wasn't even really in any pain, So

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Speaker 1: I think he's okay. Especially he's probably not a guy

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Speaker 1: that would play on Thursday anyway, so I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: with ten or twelve days whatever it is to get ready,

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be Okay. That would have been an iffy.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, with with let's say Xavier Woods

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Speaker 1: was healthy, I think Frasier might have played. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's possible, possible, But now I think I agree with

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Speaker 1: the injury, plus the situation that they have to count

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Speaker 1: on him to be a starters, they don't do anything.

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Speaker 1: I wrote that last week is like not that I

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Speaker 1: thought Cavan Frasier was making this team from day one,

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Speaker 1: but if for some reason there was doubt, it's gone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like he's yeah, you got to think of

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Speaker 1: him as your starter for the time being, unless something

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Speaker 1: happens in the next week. I'll tell you who I

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Speaker 1: did not like out of there really was Marqueston huff.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was a couple of plays where he

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Speaker 1: just looked like a guy that hadn't played in a while.

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Speaker 1: Angles weren't good, and that you have to have good

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Speaker 1: angles at safe that touchdown his a little bit of

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Speaker 1: his work. Yeah, it was all his, yes, all right,

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Speaker 1: not all I mean it was a lot of guys.

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Speaker 1: He had a shot he made took back where you

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Speaker 1: go to school, Wyoming, maybe Marqueston, No, maybe not Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember something like that. Wherever it was like

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Speaker 1: high school college of like, Oh, I'm faster, I can

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Speaker 1: go get this guy and next thing you know, he's

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Speaker 1: just That would have been like a nine yard game

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Speaker 1: if he had taken a better angle or gotten there quicker. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So do you think the Cowboys have to at this

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Speaker 1: point go out and try to find more bodies because

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Speaker 1: of the fact that obviously Xavier Woods is injured and

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Speaker 1: now you don't know, I mean you think, but even

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Speaker 1: if he's fine with a dislocated shoulder, does that make

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Speaker 1: you nervous or it should it make the Cowboys nervous

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Speaker 1: enough to where they need to find more bodies just

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Speaker 1: to have going into the season. I'll say this, and

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Speaker 1: this is just my perception. M I feel that Chris

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Speaker 1: Richard he's a very front guy and he doesn't really

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Speaker 1: dance around his answers or hesitate when answering. He's very direct.

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Speaker 1: Last night during the locker room, when the media was

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Speaker 1: talking to him and asked him about the safety position

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Speaker 1: and concerns there, he didn't, as he said, he didn't

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Speaker 1: really know the severity of Cavon's injury, but when asked

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Speaker 1: about what's happening with safety, I felt that his answer

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Speaker 1: he still gave somewhat of you know, what you expect

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Speaker 1: to hear, but the way he answered it wasn't as

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Speaker 1: confident and direct as he usually is. It was more

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Speaker 1: kind of like, um, trying words to say what he

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Speaker 1: needs to say, but fighting off. I guess what he's

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Speaker 1: feeling inside, you know, exactly exactly. So I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is getting a little out of hand. I mean,

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Speaker 1: at some point, you know, he's he's like I mean

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Speaker 1: even he's probably the most optimistic person there is, But

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Speaker 1: at some point it's like, all right, well, what else

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Speaker 1: has to happen here? I mean, we've got to do something.

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Speaker 1: And maybe it's not the guy that everybody wants or

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Speaker 1: that I want, but I mean it's got to be

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Speaker 1: somebody else. Um. I think when that when that waiver

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Speaker 1: wire hits on Saturday, Um, there's gonna it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of trades. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a really crazy Saturday and Sunday. I hope it doesn't

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Speaker 1: bleed into the Sunday night game. Yeah, it'd be nice.

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Speaker 1: I mean I won't get all that stuff done before

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. I'm gonna I'll need an assist if that's

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Speaker 1: what happens, because I won't be in any condition. Yeah

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Speaker 1: about I don't know if I even want you writing

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Speaker 1: anything coming Sunday night. That's probably a bad idea. LSU

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Speaker 1: Miami at the stadium. I'll be there. That's awesome you going.

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Speaker 1: We'll see I might be the one having to write

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Speaker 1: somebody stories, might be the one that gets tagged in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to write that night a team where you are believing

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Speaker 1: Dave has done it for on the other side more

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Speaker 1: times than than I had not even that. It just

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Speaker 1: does all the all the time. So hopefully though it'll

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Speaker 1: be because and we're speaking like this because we've we've

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Speaker 1: seen it too often. The cuts will be made five

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Speaker 1: three o'clock, five o'clock on Saturday, something like that. Um,

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Speaker 1: they changed that rule a couple of years ago, or

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Speaker 1: change the time, but it'll be Saturday afternoon. Don't make

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Speaker 1: the cuts. Somebody, probably even on our staff, we'll say

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Speaker 1: something stupid than say final cuts when nothing is really final.

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Speaker 1: And then and then the waiver we're wire, we'll start it.

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Speaker 1: It'll be weird. Yeah. Uh. Then twenty four hours from that,

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Speaker 1: some guy thinks he's made the team. He's gonna get cut.

639
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna pick up a claiming the guy off waiver,

640
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna make a trade. I feel for that guy

641
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: even more than I feel fairy the first wave, because

642
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: if you think, you know, they call home, tell the

643
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: family I made it on the team. And then they

644
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: get that phone call a day later, and it's just like, yeah,

645
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you who I don't feel bead for. I

646
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: don't feel bad for the guy who makes the team

647
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: on that Saturday and then goes to watch his college

648
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: football team play. And then it gets told by a teammate, hey,

649
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: come on, we better make it for this eight am meeting,

650
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: and he says, nah, I'll be fine, I'll get there later,

651
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: and then doesn't show up, and then it gets cut.

652
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: Who would do that? Anybody would do that? And then

653
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: never plays in the league again. Don't do that? All right? Um,

654
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about Randy Gregory who got a sack

655
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: last night, played pretty well, continues to play really well, um,

656
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: and then after the game, some report comes up to

657
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Wait, wait, Clarence Hill and the press.

658
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry sorry to cut you off, but Clarence Hill

659
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: and a veteran sportswriter in the press, products actually cut

660
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: somebody off or saying, that's the same thing about report,

661
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: and he says, no, that's not a report, is an

662
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: actual story. That is a rumor. Yeah, that's a rum

663
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: you know. And that's where I was going with it.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, I should correct that and say it better.

665
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: And I told you this this morning in my office.

666
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: Anytime I see one person, one person that says something

667
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: on Twitter that's that big and no one corroborates it.

668
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: You don't hear any of the national guys, the Schefters,

669
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: the Mortenson's, nobody was out there saying I'm hearing it too.

670
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: That makes me question the validity of the tweet. And

671
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: certainly there hasn't been anything else that's come out about it.

672
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Last night, it seemed to be everywhere and everybody was

673
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: talking about it, but nobody could corroborate it. And that

674
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: doesn't mean to say that maybe something comes out later.

675
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: Who knows. All I'm saying is at this point, and

676
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: I assume you guys can can chime in on this.

677
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: At this point, it doesn't seem like there's much to this.

678
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: The tweet said, I expect, but I'm hearing there might

679
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: be more trouble on the horizon for Randy Gray. This

680
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: is a former NFL writer, Yes, former NFL. He's now

681
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: with Yahoo. I think I thought he was a CBS.

682
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: Maybe c couldn't even tell you for sure. Um, yeah, No,

683
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: it's it's I'm at At best it's reckless and at

684
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: worst it's malicious. Honestly, Wow, No, I mean that's true. No,

685
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: I get it, but that would be really that Really

686
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: it's best it's reckless speak. I mean, give me something

687
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: follow up or wait to get you put somebody's name

688
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: out there like that without having more than just absolutely

689
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm hearing, and I don't really believe this. I work

690
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: in media. I understand the way it works too well

691
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: to think that it's genuinely malicious, But like you could

692
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: convince me that it is in a worst case scenario,

693
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: because it's so just brazenly outside of what you would

694
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: consider like ethical or respond consible journalism. And the thing

695
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: that sucks for Randy Gregory. And we asked Jerry Jones

696
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: last night Randy didn't talk. We asked Jerry Jones, he said,

697
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything other than that we know that

698
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: this is going to be a daily battle where Randy's

699
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: always going to have to worry about this, which is

700
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: he said that more times than I can count. He said, Yeah,

701
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: why would we be playing if we didn't expect him

702
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: to be ready for the start of the season. Stephen

703
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: Jones follows that up today by saying, we haven't heard anything,

704
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: but the club is not part of the league's process,

705
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: so we would be the last people to know if

706
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: there was anything. Which if you're listening at home and

707
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: you kind of don't understand the way this works is

708
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: a lot of these national reporters have sources within the

709
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: league office, Like they're not hearing this from Cowboys sources,

710
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: which is where we get most of our information. It's

711
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: very plausible that he that there could be a source

712
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: in the league office in New York that told him something.

713
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: That was primarily the reason. Also though that I said

714
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: that it was curious to me that you didn't have

715
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: other national guys chime because they also have sources at

716
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: the league and sense then I mean, I think every

717
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: reporter in the Dallas area has has gotten in touch

718
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: with a Cowboys source who says we haven't heard anything.

719
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: I've heard other things from people who have sources in

720
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: the league office who are like, we don't know what

721
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: that's about. So as of right now, like I'm tempted

722
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: to say it's bs. But the thing that sucks is, well,

723
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: it's such a fine it's going to remain such a

724
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: fine line for Randy Gregory for the foreseeable future. Is

725
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: as I understand it, forget a failed drug test. A

726
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: missed drug test is game over. You know, it's so

727
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: season over. He could he could very well be right,

728
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: just because Randy has such a fine line to walk.

729
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: But as of right now, I haven't heard anything that

730
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: suggests there's anything to that, which to circle back, why

731
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: are you quote unquote reporting it if you don't have

732
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: anything else to go on. It's reckless. And I just

733
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: thought it sucked. And then the thing that's sucks even

734
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: more about it is that you want to be excited

735
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: about it for him, You want you want to pull

736
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: for him, and you watch him on the field and

737
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Arizona was trying to block him

738
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: with a left tackle and a running back and he

739
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: on the sack that he made And I know I

740
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: said this to you in the press box, but everything

741
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: you want out of a pass rusher, he gave it

742
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: to you right there. He gave I mean he was

743
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: the first off the line. I mean he burst off

744
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: the line, the left tackle had no shot. Then then

745
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: he like bull rushed him back. The running back tried

746
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: to get in the way. He spun through that, and

747
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: then the awareness to find the quarterback and then bring

748
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: him down. I mean, the only thing you didn't do

749
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: was was stripped the ball for a fumble. I mean,

750
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: like it was an outstanding play. I know it was

751
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: one play, but it was a really an outstanding play

752
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: that showed, man, this guy's got all the tools and

753
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: look kind of real quick. I can't if you can

754
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: play that, Clay. You just played the clip of it,

755
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: play it back, because I want fans to see how

756
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: quickly he got off the ball. And it wasn't an

757
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: off size penalty. He got off the ball. He was

758
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: already running before the offensive line even moved. I mean,

759
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: it was just and that shows you just how athletic,

760
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: how quick this guy is. Like when he showed the

761
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: when you showed the view that was from the end zone,

762
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: you could see it really well. It was just it's

763
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: amazing how fast, how quick he gets off the ball

764
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: and uh and was into into the offensive lineman before

765
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: he even was out of his stance. And that's that's

766
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. It's pretty remarkable. It's amazing. I mean, a

767
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: full beat before anybody even moves. That wasn't much of

768
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: a chip there. No, we probably and we've we're talking

769
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: about it. We've talked a lot about it. We're still

770
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: probably not talking enough about how amazing it is that

771
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: he's made as much progress as he has. And who

772
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: knows if it carries forward to the regular season. Who

773
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: knows for sure if he even plays in the regular season, apparently,

774
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: but it's remarkable how much he has done. I mean,

775
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,520
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776
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: were being careful with him, and he's just been it's

777
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,640
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00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,400
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Speaker 1: of our team is running, I would take all of them.

850
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: In regards to Rico Gathers, I'm sick of him. He

851
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: blew a hot read last night. And my idea is this,

852
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: if you're if you are drafted and you miss all

853
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: of last year, are you putting? Is he putting in

854
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: the same kind of time that Sean Lee was putting

855
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: in when he was injured. I don't think he is,

856
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: so I don't think he's committed. And in regards to

857
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: why are we saving a nice chair on top of

858
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: the game last night? For us, positively we have been

859
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Dan Bailly kicking a field goal, not some guys gonna

860
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: get cut. I didn't like Austin's effort level. When mister

861
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: Peterson's running down the sidelines, he could at least try

862
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: and tag called the guy like Zeke last year in Denver.

863
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: And to answer your questions, Derek, real quick, I'm an

864
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: old School Cowboys fan, I would like to say, you know,

865
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, preseason at least get a few

866
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: a few series to, you know, to get ready for

867
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: the series, to get ready for the season. Because when

868
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: Zeke fumbles, like he has the second game of the

869
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: second week his rookie year at Washington and last year

870
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: when he got off to a slow start, is coach

871
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: Jones going to raise his hand say sorry, I sabotaged

872
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and preseason game three. Thanks. Okay, I don't

873
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: know the last apartment, but I don't know either man

874
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: that that is He's take a breath. That was brought

875
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: his first point. I actually thought like that has some

876
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: merit to it. I love it he got to it first.

877
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: But but no, let's let's let's talk about that first point.

878
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: Because his point was, look, you have a team that

879
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: is built around the running game, why wouldn't you carry

880
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: more running backs than carrying more receivers? And I heard

881
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: Brian even further that point a little bit earlier, and

882
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: he was saying, especially when you got a bunch of

883
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: receivers that are very much the same from the standpoint

884
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: of their level of expected production, Like there's not a

885
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: big difference between these guys. So if that's the case,

886
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you try to maybe carry an additional running

887
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: back or two additional running backs and only go five

888
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Listen, because you have the best running back

889
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: in the NFL arguably. I mean, if he's not here,

890
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: he's in Pittsburgh or LA. I mean, like, this is

891
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: one of the top three backs in the league. So

892
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: what is four running backs going to do for you?

893
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: What is Darius Jackson or an Scarborough going to do

894
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: for you when you don't really want to give either

895
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: one of them to football? I don't under I mean,

896
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: I get the point about the running team, and if

897
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: you had a bunch of running backs that were kind

898
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: of all the same, that makes sense. But you know,

899
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: like New England can carry four running backs because none

900
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: of them are that much different than each other. But

901
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case here. Not only that,

902
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: and y'all know I'm a fan of both of those guys.

903
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: I love Darius Jackson, and I've said before how unique

904
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: I think Bo's skill set is. You're still I mean,

905
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: if you're in dire straits, like they're not giving you

906
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: anything that you can't find around the NFL, like I mean,

907
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: can go back to the draft day debate if you

908
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: want to about the nature of the running back position,

909
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: especially if you have a good offensive line, it's easily filled.

910
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you get to that point

911
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: where you need both of those guys, somebody's on a

912
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: practice squad or on the street. Even so, that doesn't

913
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: worry me. I will. I mean, I have made the

914
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: argument that you could keep seven receivers before. I certainly

915
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: don't feel like that's necessary as we sit here today.

916
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Six still feels realistic to me. But even if you

917
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: want to go five, that's fine. But I would use

918
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: that roster spot on something like safety or offensive line

919
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: before I worried about running back. There was one of

920
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: his points I was like, in the middle, I can't

921
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: Rico was a second point that he made. He was

922
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: saying that he's tired of Rico. He says it he

923
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: doesn't think Rico puts in the amount of work necessary.

924
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: You know what, if you're starting to compare people's efforts

925
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: with Sean Lee and the film, you're gonna have fifty

926
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: two guys that need to be cut because nobody does

927
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: what Sean Lee does. And I understand the point about

928
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: if you're hurt and you're banged up and all that,

929
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: but I think that you might be or might be forgetting.

930
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: And I think all of us aren't really sure what happened.

931
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: Nobody really knows what happened last year with Rico. Not

932
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: on the outside. There's a weird thing. I've never seen

933
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 1: it before. Concussion in the middle of the training camp

934
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he's out for the

935
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: whole season. I think there's more to it than that.

936
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know about his effort and all that stuff.

937
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: I think that that was a two way street. I

938
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: know he's here, he's committed, he's playing. Yes, he has

939
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: some busts, whatever, But you also can't ignore the fact

940
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: that he makes more play. He's making plays out there

941
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: when he's getting the opportunity. He catches the ball just

942
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: about every time. He's got big, strong hands. I mean,

943
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: there are things that are correctable, in my opinion, that

944
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: you can do with him. I think he's in every

945
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: day every game inactive That's what I think. I think

946
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: he'll be the highest paid practice quad player in the

947
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: league because I think he'll be on the team inactive

948
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: and I think that's a waste. If they put him

949
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: on this roster and they don't find a way to

950
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: use him, if for nothing else then to give you

951
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: another option in the red zone, I think that's a

952
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: waste and it's not worth maybe keeping him on this roster.

953
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: Just look, I mean, just look at where he is

954
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: and what he's continuing to get better. He's going to

955
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: continue to learn. Now, if this thing goes bad and

956
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: there's a new offense and all that stuff, that could

957
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: be a huge setback. But I just think you know

958
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: this is you want him to If you could get

959
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad, you would do it. I

960
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: don't just don't know if you can. You might, I

961
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: don't think you can. I want to address the last

962
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: thing and talk about a player who's actually gonna make

963
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: a difference for the Cowboys this year. Sorry, I don't

964
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: know why. I don't know why I felt the need

965
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: to take a shot like that, but okay, there's no

966
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Week two against the Broncos is the

967
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: worst game of Ezekiel Elliott's career to this point, and

968
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: in his second game against the Redskins in his rookie year,

969
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: he had fumble problems. We talk about him playing poorly

970
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: against the Giants in twenty sixteen, he had eighty three

971
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown in his first nflme that was

972
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: a really good defense, and miss me with that. He

973
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: ran for one hundred and four yards on twenty four carries,

974
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: averaged four yards four point three per carry, and had

975
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: five receptions for thirty six in the season opener last year.

976
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: If that's a bad game, it's not great by the

977
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: standard that we've gotten used to from Zeke. If that's

978
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: a bad game, miss me with that too. So basically

979
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: what you're saying is by not getting a lot of

980
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: work in the preseason, Zeke plays solid in the opener

981
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: and then forgets how to play in Week two. That No,

982
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: that's craps got to give then in Week two because

983
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: he's not a good Week two player, But he's pretty

984
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: good against the Giants. So it's pretty good against the Giants.

985
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to give there, that's true. I think. No, yeah,

986
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: those are better stats than I thought at a Week one. Yeah,

987
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: it was Week two both of those years. Week two

988
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: was I mean, yeah, he fumbled twice against the Redskins

989
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: and everybody was ready to set him. Yeah he did,

990
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: But I'm saying they remember Week three against the Bears,

991
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: was like Morris needs to play, and then Zeke ran

992
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: for one forty five or something, hurdling people. Um, I

993
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: just Zeke is on that level. He is. If he's

994
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: not the best back in the game, he's in the conversation,

995
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: and I just don't think he needs to be out

996
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: there in the preseason. Yeah, you mentioned the New York

997
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: Giants agree real quick, got your boy got paid? Yeah,

998
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: got paid five years, ninety five million dollars sixty five

999
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: million guaranteed for a wide receiver, and the Cowboys are

1000
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: going the opposite way. That's the interesting part is the

1001
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: strategy of the Cowboys is, hey, we're not gonna necessarily

1002
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: go with the high paid wide receiver. We're gonna kind

1003
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: of mix what if they had that blond haired guy

1004
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: running around. I get I get that, but but their strategy,

1005
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: like they let DEAs walk, and their strategy was, we're

1006
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna go the route of really focusing on our passing

1007
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: game and we on our running game, and we think

1008
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: we can use receivers at a little more middle level

1009
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: to be able to get the story. Now that may

1010
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: change next year if they're if if all the wheels

1011
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: fall off and they're drafting in the top five and

1012
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: there's this really really great wide receiver, then strategy shift

1013
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now we're gonna get a

1014
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: high party. I mean a high you know, a high

1015
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: draft choice wide receiver. But right now, it's just interesting

1016
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: the difference in strategy in forty seven career games from

1017
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. He's played forty seven career games in the

1018
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: past fifteen years. No wide out in the NFL has

1019
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: more catches, yards or touchdowns to this point in his career.

1020
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: So he's pretty damn good. You know, when you think

1021
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: about athletically of the running backs in the league, I

1022
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: know he hasn't played a snap, but I know se

1023
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley athletically does things that a lot of running

1024
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: backs really can't do. We'll see how he goes to

1025
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: the field athletically. I don't know if there's anyone that's

1026
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: really better than him than O'Dell. Maybe Antonio Brown, but

1027
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: he's not as I mean, it's not the same type

1028
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: of athletic player tight end. I mean, Evan Ingram is

1029
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: one of the more athletic tight ends. So they've got

1030
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: from a skill set standpoint, and they got a quarterback

1031
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: doesn't miss that many. He doesn't miss any games if

1032
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: if he's not, you know, if there's own team, that's

1033
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: their big question mark. Now, how are they gonna pay one? Yeah,

1034
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: although which they drafted one, right or two? I mean

1035
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: they drafted Flowers and he's I know, I know, I know,

1036
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: but no, you're right, they think they drafted first or

1037
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: second round. They drafted they drafted Will Hernandez. That's right, right, Yeah, Actually, well,

1038
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: I know we're not into the we're not into the

1039
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: week by week, you know, routine of the season yet.

1040
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: But Olivier Vernon twisted his ankle pretty seriously and it

1041
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: sounds like it's gonna be dicey if he's there for

1042
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: the season opener, which if it's dicey for the opener,

1043
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: maybe it's dicey for week two. Also, we'll see that

1044
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: defense is really good. Remember last year when the Beckham

1045
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: thing went out and was it was it you that

1046
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: were like, he's not playing and I was like, definitely

1047
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: he's playing, And you said I saw him his eyes

1048
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: or something like that, he's not playing. I don't remember that. Yeah,

1049
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: I was totally awful on that one. Was right, she

1050
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: saw it in his eyes that that was maybe I'm

1051
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: thinking of upthing different. It was. It's funny though, I

1052
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 1: mean I remember there's what Odell's probably played six games

1053
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys at this point, because I know he missed.

1054
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: If he didn't miss both games last year, then he

1055
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: missed at least one. Like he's back. He obviously had

1056
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: the amazing game in fourteen with the one hander. That

1057
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: was when he hit the scene like nably so um,

1058
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: and he caught two touchdowns in his first game against

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00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: them that year. But like other than those two, really

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00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: he hadn't He has not killed the cow There was

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00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: a game, Was it the same game with the one hander?

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00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so. There was a game that was

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00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: really close and he caught a slant over the middle

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00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: just broke away from Church. It was that was the

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Speaker 1: That was the second game that the Cowboys or the

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00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: that was the ten seven was the ten seven game? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was the only play he made. It was only

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Speaker 1: play anybody made in that crytastic game. Yeah, you're right, okay,

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00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: so that was that was one I remember of him,

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00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: just like you know, hey, Brenda car has been playing

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00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: pretty good. That's right, you know, so he but I

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00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: mean he's had eight possible chances to play the Cowboys,

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00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: and all things considered, he has not just crushed them

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00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: the way that some other rival players good. But you

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00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: know the interesting part of that, that seems to be

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00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: the way good. That seems to be the way it

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00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: is a lot of times though, in divisions where you

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00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: know you have a really great player and they're good

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00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: against the rest of the league, and where they find

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00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,959
Speaker 1: their struggles a lot of times will happen against division teams,

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00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's because they know him so well

1082
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: they know how to take away some of the things

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00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: they like that. It doesn't mean they're not gonna be

1084
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: great still, But sometimes division if you go and look

1085
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: at like stats of really great players, usually you'll find

1086
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: a game or two every season where they're in the

1087
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: division where it's not that great absolutely and your division

1088
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: opponents are gonna know you better. But like ask Giants

1089
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: fans about Jason Witt and I bet you they'll they

1090
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: feel some type of way about that. Or Fletcher Cox

1091
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: comes to mind, like he always seems like he shows

1092
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: up when he plays the Cowboys. So I don't know,

1093
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: just something to keep an eye on. Now that I've

1094
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: said this, Odell's gonna catch ten for two. Yeah, crazy Sunday,

1095
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: but he is a rich man. Now is a very

1096
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: time forty one million guaranteed. Yeah, all right, We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. Check the

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Speaker 1: website for the time. We don't know exactly what time yet.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff moving parts over here, but

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Speaker 1: we'll let you know sometime later this afternoon. Until then.

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Speaker 1: For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton.

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