WEBVTT - 03/15/21 DPS Best Of 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.080 Sports Radio. Let's bringing j Millis ESPN college bounsketball analyst 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.960 and in case you forget, he was a very good 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.080 college baunsketball player in his own right. Jay, do you 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:18.079 remember your first tournament game when you were at Duke. Yes, 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:23.119 we played in Pullman, Washington, and stayed in Moscow, Idaho, 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.480 and so it was not not much of an introduction 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.240 into the glory of the tournament. We were probably felt 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.920 like we were more quarantined and isolated than the guys 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.960 in Indianapolis. Right now, who was the best player you 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:39.680 played against that year? Dead Left Fremp. We played Washington 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.280 at Washington State in the second round. That was back 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.240 before the tournament expanded, so it was nineteen eighty four, 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.080 so we had to buy. We didn't play a first 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.640 round game. We had to buy into the second round 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.160 and played played Dead Left Shremp and Christian Velop and Washington. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:01:00.320 How'd you do? They beat us by one and Johnnys 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.720 got fouled on a lob and just taken out and 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.200 the referee just looked at him like, we're in Washington. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.399 How surprised were you? Reaction? To Duke nut getting in 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.640 this year not surprise at all. I thought the only 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.600 shot they had to get to get in in was 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.600 beating Florida State and go into the semifinals of the 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.920 ACC tournament and playing well there. I don't think they 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.920 had to win, but they had to play well, and 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.480 the coronavirus thing having a player test positive took him 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.240 out of it. So I wasn't surprised at all. What 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:37.920 about the COVID contingency plans of what happens during the 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.119 tournament When the tournament gets started, if a team has 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.800 to pull out, what happens. Let's say it's an Elite 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.880 eight or Sweet sixteen, what happens to that matchup? They 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.640 just moved the other one on. So once the tournament starts, 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.920 everything's locked in. If something happens between now and then, 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.800 they'll take one of the last four teams in order. 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.440 When the last four teams left out, I think Louisville 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.240 was the first one, and they'll they'll just put them 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.440 into that slot no matter what the seed is. So 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.920 if a you know, if a sixteen seed goes out 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:12.600 because of virus issues and cannot play, then they slot 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.520 Louisville in there, so a number one seed is going 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.080 to be gone. Really, we get Louisville as a sixteen seed. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.280 That's not fair, that's not fair. But it's just it's 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:20.760 the only way they can do it. I mean, I 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.840 guess theoretically you could, you could shift up one bracket 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:28.359 and and just reseat it, but that that way everybody 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.720 has to redo their scouting and their preparation and all 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.680 that stuff. You're just better off just sticking it to 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.799 one team rather than the whole bracket. It's kind of 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.600 like an airplane flight, like if you miss a flight, 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.359 or if if they cancel a flight, they don't they 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.600 don't just pook everybody on the next one and inconvenience everybody, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.880 they just didn't convenience that one flight. But are you 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.959 going to have these four teams that are sort of 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:53.280 in the undecked circle they're quarantining, practicing, ready to go 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:58.760 just in case that's yes, they're testing, uh and ready. 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.680 They had to notify the selection committee that they're willing 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.880 to go if they're called. I don't anticipate that happening, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.880 but who knows. There's a lot of things you didn't anticipate. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.440 But but you know, the conference tournaments. I mean, it 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.600 was some big names with Virginia Duke and Kansas having 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.760 an issue, but otherwise everything went off pretty well. I 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.440 think the I think the biggest issue Dan was there 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.400 was a little bit of trauma there. You know, it 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.560 was one year basically to the day, and all of 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.680 a sudden you had a few teams drop all, you know, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.440 within twenty four hours, and it started to feel like 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.600 deja vu all over again a little bit. But but 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.840 you know, intellectually, you knew that this is not that 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.440 big of a deal. I mean, it certainly sucks for 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.960 those teams and their fans and the coaches all that stuff, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.920 but it wasn't It wasn't anything going to derail you know, 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.720 the conference tournaments and TV and all that stuff. The 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:51.800 business is going to go on no matter how many 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.640 people you know, have to have to bow out of 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.400 This doesn't feel like there's any outrage today. Normally the 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.240 day after, you know, we're railing again, and so a 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.400 team that got in or seated too high or a 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:07.280 team that didn't get in, is there any outrage. No. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.480 Maybe that's because we're just happy to have it. But 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.280 the committee did a pretty good job I mean, there 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.200 were some things that I didn't care for, but nothing 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.320 where you're going really like, are you guys you know 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.119 the balls round right, We've had those in the past. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.080 We didn't have that this year. So overall, I think 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.839 it was pretty good. And you know, I mean, you 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.680 could cure. There are a couple of things I don't 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.039 like that the committee does usually, and that is I 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.160 don't like it when they put mid major against mid 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.920 major and because you know, one of them loses, and 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.359 you know, that's when you go put any time you 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.320 can put the little guy against a big shot and 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.280 let's see what happens, because that's what people seem to want. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.640 And it is a television event after all, and they 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.599 know that too. But overall, I thought it was I 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.680 thought it was pretty good and pretty balanced. That was 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.560 the best part of it was there's no region. You're going, well, 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.159 that one's affair and this one easy. They all seem 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:06.320 seem pretty pretty balanced, which is I think the number 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.160 one thing to do for any committee. Jay Bill, as 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.440 ESPN College basketball analyst, you mentioned this is a TV show. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.240 I was wondering about this if Zion was still on 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.719 Duke this year and they were thirteen and eleven. Would 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.760 would the committee look at Duke differently if you had 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.159 a Marquis Mussey player like that. Well that's part of 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.240 the problem, dan Is. If Zion or on Duke's team, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.200 they wouldn't be thirty maybe twenty four, maybe twenty three 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.039 and one. Okay, come on, all right, well that but 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.640 that's the issue with them is they didn't have they 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.360 didn't have superstar talent. They had they had good talent, 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.880 and they were just kind of just like everybody else 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.279 this year. They had good players and youth and all that. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.400 But you know, so with Kentucky and Duke, you know people, 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.000 some people were saying, ah, one and done, it doesn't 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.240 work anymore. Well, it works at Oklahoma State, and it 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.320 works at Gonzaga, and it works at USC. You know, 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.239 they just didn't get the superstars this year and Kentucky 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.040 and Duke usually do. I wonder about, you know, once 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.960 we get done with the one and done, how that's 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.000 going to change what the blue Bloods do recruiting wise, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.960 or how that's going to affect the mid majors. Do 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.920 you see a seismic shift there that now all of 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.000 a sudden, Duke's getting the guy who's going to stay 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.839 three years maybe, but they're also going to get they'll 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.440 get the best players anyway, and they'll be more active 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.279 in the transfer market. That's going to be a bigger 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.560 deal going forward. You're going to see players that identify 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.560 themselves as being really good are going to go well. Heck, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.680 I can go to Duke or Kentucky now and you'll 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.600 see that more often. But I'm not convinced that one 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.520 and Done is going away it. You know, you may 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.880 see other avenues. But if if the NCAA wise is 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.840 up or if the Supreme Court says they have to um, 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.720 players are going to be able to make money. And 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.000 if they can make money, college is going to be 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:02.360 a pretty good option. What is your philosophy in filling 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:08.880 out a bracket? Mine is be careful of the upsets 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.840 that you're looking for, because you know, saying the five 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.040 twelve happens, it's picking the right five twelve. And this 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.360 year a lot of the double digit upsets are going 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.480 to be major conference teams that are the double digit seed, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.520 whether it's Rutgers or Syracuse or Michigan State or things 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.840 like that, those don't seem to be as appealing but 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.320 I don't. I look at who I think is gonna 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:34.040 advance the team. I think that's gonna advance in the bracket. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.440 And I don't worry as much about the upsets because 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.520 those are the first weekend fun things. And you know, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.560 when you start thinking about like a fifteen seed or something, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.360 two seeds are one hundred and thirty two and eight 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.760 against fifteen seeds, you know, sometimes it seems like, hey, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.440 those fifteen this team can really play. They can play, 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.520 but they don't win as often as you think. And 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.880 then they don't win a second game. So when you 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.600 start thinking about Florida off Coast or something, that's great, 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.080 but it's happened once, and and you've got to be 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:06.800 got to be a little careful of stuff that's only 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:12.400 happened once. Gonzaga's chances here of going undefeated, um, you know, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.960 obviously it hasn't happened since nineteen seventy six. But given 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.200 everything that's happened, is that on the same level as 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:23.600 what Indiana did with Bob Knight? Yeah, yeah, I think so. Um, 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:28.600 you know, I don't. I think the field is a 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.080 little bit younger now than it was back then. That's 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.600 the only difference between football and basketball. The players now 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.680 are better they've ever been. So if Gonzaga played that 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:40.840 Indiana team, they drilled them, but the players were older, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.000 and so that's the only thing that would give them 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.600 more of a chance. It's like if you took you know, 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.679 the nineteen seventy two Nebraska Cornhuskers and they played against 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.920 Alabama this year, who do you think win Alabama to 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:57.200 drub them? But football hasn't changed, the ages of the 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.800 players haven't changed. The ages have changed in basketball. That's 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.360 the only thing that makes it where you could say, Okay, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.280 the teams of yesteryear would do really well against the 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.880 teams now is because you'd have seniors playing against freshman 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:12.800 at times you got a surprise team. It's not going 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.440 to be a surprise if you tell me what your 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.160 surprise team is. Yeah, I mean there are a couple 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.280 like the upsets I see are in the West before 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:26.280 they get their season shut down by Gonzaga. I think 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:30.520 both UC Santa Barbara and Ohio you are really good 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.679 picks there. Ohio, You's got a player named Jason Preston's 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.240 point guard that is the LaMelo Ball of this tournament. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.600 He's a triple double guy. The average is about sixteen 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.959 seven and seven and really really talent. He's going to 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.280 be a first round NBA draft pick. And UCSB has 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.839 really good guards. In addition to a fantastic party area 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.800 called Isla Vista, which is a wonderful place if you're 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.160 young and want to have a few beers and enjoy yourself. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.679 Ila Vista as a place to go. Do you remember 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:04.080 the first time you played against d Yes right? Absolutely? Um. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.600 It was at a pickup game in Chapel Hill at 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.520 a place called Woolen. Jim and Uh and we were 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.440 we were the number one ranked recruiting class, and we 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.320 went over to Chapel Hill to play and Uh. And 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.120 after after playing against you, Jordan and those guys, we 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.560 were kind of looking at ourselves, going, I don't know 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.199 if this is gonna This might not have been a 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.040 good decision. And then and then, you know, like people 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.839 would say, hey, did you know in college that Jordan 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.440 was going to be great? Like, yeah, yeah, we did. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:36.640 We knew. Um, you know, when you played against him 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.400 and Len Bias and Ralph Sampson, you're kind of going, 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.640 all right, whoever said all men are created? That's ps 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.960 Like that's just not true. I try to tell people 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:51.280 about Lenn Bias that I you know, he had that 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:57.320 explosion like Dominique Wilkins type explosion there. But um, but 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.760 he could shoot it too. He was a beautiful jump. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.200 He was superman like, like we used to call him 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.719 superman because we'd come back to the huddle and one 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.439 of our guys to go, I'm trying to foul him, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:11.240 and I can't foul. Did you face Ewing? I did 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.720 in high school. I played against Patrick Ewing in high school. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.600 I don't know if he well, he probably remembers it, 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.120 not because of anything to do with me. But we 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.679 played at in a like this all star event at 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:24.040 Pepperdine in Malibu, and one of my teammates, guy named 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.920 Billy Knox, who played at Saint Bernard's High School and 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.720 then went to Saint Mary's, shattered a backboard, uh in 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.120 warm ups, and so that was and then and then 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:34.920 we wound up playing. So it was it was it 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.320 was fun playing against him. Were you guarding him? Ye 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.120 oh yeah, yeah, he had a good game. I don't 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.920 know if those two things are related. I in a 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.559 you know, when you talk about a force in college basketball, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.679 I love Elijah one, but you know, viewing his presence 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.680 in what he meant to the game, and his coach 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.120 and all of those things, and you know, it's hard 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.240 to describe it to somebody unless they saw it, they 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:06.439 experienced what Hoya paranoia was all about. Yeah, Hoya paranoia, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.719 that part of it. And then just how dominant he 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:14.400 was as a player that you know, back then, the 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.160 center was the feared position, and you know, if you 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.880 were a dominant center, you were the first pick in 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.280 the draft. It wasn't a discussion point. And that's why 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.760 Elijahmah went number one over Jordan or Sam Bowie went 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.959 number two. You know that would never happen today, but 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:33.640 back then it happened routinely. But when when Ewing dunked it, 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.839 Remember in the title game in eighty two, he was 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.280 goaltending all these shots and the announcers were going, what 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:43.000 is he doing? And John Thompson knew exactly. He wanted 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.800 to let everybody, you know, he wanted you to let 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.040 everybody know that he was there. They did, and they 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.000 almost won that game. I wonder what Ralph Samson would 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.560 have been like in today's game. It feels like there 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.840 was a Porzingis type feel to him. He would have 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.800 been just as dominant as he was back then. Like 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.600 people forget he was the MVP of the All Star 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.920 Game in five, the average twenty and ten for a 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.640 period of years, but then he got hurt and once 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.720 it was like a thoroughbred horse having bad, bad knees. 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.280 That's what happened. I remember going. I was in Houston 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.480 doing something in the late eighties and I went to 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.880 a game and he was with the Sacramento Kings and 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.760 he couldn't run anymore, and I was It was so 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.520 sad because you know, he was such he was so 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.680 great like he should have been. It was like almost 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.119 like Walton, you know, with his feet, um it diminished 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.000 what he was as a pro. But both of them 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.720 were Hall of famers, Nay Smith, hall of famers on 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.400 their college careers alone. Uh, you know, two of the 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.640 greatest that I've ever played. I think, who did you 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.520 pick to win it all? Yeahza, I think it Zag 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.120 is the best team, UM and Gonzaga in Illinois. I mean, 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.320 I think there's gonna be a little bit of chaos 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.800 in the in the first weekend, but I think the 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.280 top teams are pretty strong the one I'm I'm concerned 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.480 about his Michigan because Isaiah Livers has been out and 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.480 if he's not back and then they've got Ella, they 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.600 probably have LSU in the second round. I don't know 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.920 that LSU is going to get beat by Saint Bonaventril, 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.840 though Saint Bonaventure's pretty good. The fighting woad bombs um. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:12.320 But I think I think Michigan is the only one 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.079 that that you're going oh man, without Livers, maybe maybe 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.720 they could trip up a little bit. Thanks as always, 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.240 Jay will hopefully check in with you during the tournament. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.840 And my best to the boys there in Bristol. Should 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.240 have been dating last year, Dan. Yeah, a good un 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.720 now now they're going to the n I T I 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:34.200 know sucks. Yeah, Eastern Kentucky hasn't been the same since 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.280 you left it. Oh my god, you know they have 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:42.480 been not any good, not any good, Jay, Andy, They've 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:47.240 been consistent. Thank you Buddin. That's Jay villis a former 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.920 do great. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.840 Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.640 to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.520 Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Dan Patrick 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.720 Show Fox Sports Radio dot Com or stream us live 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:07.200 every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.400 or stream us live on the Peacock Act. Hey, this 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.239 is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.480 Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sportspod 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.640 pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.360 Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.320 sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win big at 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.000 the sports book, and all the best guests. Do yourself 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.320 a favor and listen to Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.640 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:45.320 your podcasts. Let's spring in and spring In. Mike Florio, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.640 Pro Football Talk Live co host. I don't know what 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.480 you make of what we just said there, Mike, but 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.200 we did fill up about four minutes. It allowed me 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.440 to catch up on some text messages, so I appreciate 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.120 that's mclovin being mean to Drew Brees. It wasn't being 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.800 mean to Drew Breese. Look, there are categories like this 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.480 where reasonable minds will differ the thing that impresses me 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.960 the most about Drew Breese. Number one, inch for inch, 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.600 pound for pound, arm strength for arm strength. I think 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.480 he got more out of his God given abilities than 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.640 any other quarterback in the history of the NFL. And 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.600 the statistical things that amazed me the most Dan number one, 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:27.120 breaking the Johnny Unitis record of consecutive games with a 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:32.000 touchdown pass forty seven. It stood for so long, unbelievable 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.200 how long it stood. Breeze broke that and extended it 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.960 to fifty four. And also, there had been one five 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.320 thousand yards season before Drew Breese in two thousand and eleven. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.400 That was Dan Marino. Well, actually Breeze got to five 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.560 thousand before two thousand and eleven. He broke the record 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.880 in eleven. Dan Marino had fifty eighty four in nineteen 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:55.000 eighty four. Breeze has five five thousand yards seasons. No 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.280 one else has more than one. Now that's going to 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.880 change with seventeen games and just the way game is moving. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:06.879 But just from the standpoint of statistical accomplishment and changing 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:11.200 the narrative forever when it comes to short quarterbacks, he 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.640 deserves a spot in that top ten, whether it's five, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:18.280 whether it's eight, Whether it's ten again, reasonable minds can differ, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.960 but he's one of the all time grades, and the 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.600 air apparent in New Orleans is going to be I 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.920 think it's Taysom Hill. Sean Payton has set on record 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:33.399 on multiple occasions he wants Jamis Winston to resign and compete. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.840 The question is what dollar value can you put onto 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:41.160 Jamis Winston contract, especially when you're scrambling to get under 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:46.160 the salary cap as it is, restructuring every contract possible, 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.720 cutting guys that you would like to keep on the team. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.359 Surely they would have liked to have kept Emmanuel Sanders. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.000 Some guys you're just going to have to move on 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.040 from that. Hill's making about twelve million this year. Ignore 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.920 the stuff yesterday about the four year, one hundred and 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.639 forty million dollars contract. That's all made up, that's all phony. 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:05.320 That's explained that though, Mike, because we all looked at it, went, wait, 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.520 what are they doing in New Orleans? Well, we've seen 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.880 this more and more recently, and I think the reduced 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.960 salary cap this year DAN has a lot to do 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.879 with it. Teams are adding voidable years onto contracts so 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.560 they can spread cap dollars. A signing bonus gets spread 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.679 over multiple years, so when you have a guy like 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.880 Taysom who's got one year left on his contract, there's 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.879 nowhere to spread any of the money. So you have 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:32.200 to do a new contract with voidable years. Voidable means 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.280 fake phony. They're going to go away, the contract disappears, 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.439 so you add four years. And I don't think it 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.959 was an accident that the value was thirty five million 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.520 per year, one hundred and forty million. That's the Russell 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.840 Wilson contract. I think that was kind of an impish 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.280 little wink nod by the Saints and by Taysom Hill 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.280 that they're not going to be getting Russell Wilson or 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.480 even trying to. But that gets presented as four years, 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.520 one hundred and forty million dollars, and it's fake. It's phony. 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.240 It's not real. He's not getting that. But there's people 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:03.760 out there who see it and they think, oh, they're 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.600 paying him thirty five million a year when they're not. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.200 It was just a device for creating seven point seven 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.320 five million in cap space that they may end up 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.119 using to keep Jamis Winston will be the top competition 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.280 for Taysom Hill at quarterback. You think Taysom Hill is 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.520 going to be the starting quarterback in New Orleans. I 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.440 think he's got the inside track on the job. He 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.159 passed the test last year when Drew Brees was injured. 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.920 The question is can he stay healthy and counting out 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.119 performed Jamis Winston in a head to head competition. Winston's 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.600 been there for a year. First, Winston has to agree 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.800 to whatever they're offering for him to stay. We'll find 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.360 out afternoon Eastern on Monday, whether or not somebody else 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.520 swoops in and tries to sign him. But Dan, you 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.200 look at it from Winston's perspective, I don't see another 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.960 team that's going to offer him a clear shot to 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.520 a starting job. His best play maybe to take whatever 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.320 you can get in New Orleans, try to secure the 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.200 job this year, win the competition this year, and then 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:59.200 set himself up for a contract next year. Any news 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.800 on the Russell Wilson front with the Bears offering whatever 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.879 they're supposedly offering, even something that you're not allowed to offer, 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.560 which is, you know, first round picks the next five years, 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.560 which you can only do four years. But we were 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.399 told it was five years, Like Seattle hasn't engaged like 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.640 this is this is a game of tennis, but they 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.760 haven't returned serve here, Mike, Well, I've heard that it's 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.520 crickets right now. As far as any talk about a 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.760 possible trade, that doesn't mean it can't happen. But if 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:31.840 the Bears are going to do it, they're getting closer 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:33.120 and close to the point where they have to figure 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.000 out what they're going to do because their Plan B, 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.639 Plan C, Plan D, Plan E, Plan F is going 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.520 to potentially dry up. So you know at some point 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.440 you're going to see the Bears make a move that's 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.920 going to slam the door, just like the Cowboys last 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.040 week with Prescott slams the door. I think the Saints 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.440 doing this restructuring would Taysom help slams the door there. 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.480 Here's the real question that I have because I'm not 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.600 sure the Bears can put together enough of a package 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.280 that would get the Seahawks interest. We know that Mark Rogers, 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:05.359 Russell Wilson's agent, has identified four teams Raiders, Bears, Cowboys, Saints. 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:10.200