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Speaker 1: ever done. A major thank you to Natalie Imparatoryly of

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Speaker 1: Manhattan College for just wonderful perspective on Rome. As we

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Speaker 1: go to a funeral this weekend. We heard from the

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Speaker 1: President leaving the White House to go to Rome, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about this world that we're living

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Speaker 1: in turned upside down. One of the features that we're

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Speaker 1: looking at is not so much the finance economics investment,

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Speaker 1: but the behavior that's out there. Matthew Hornback is Morgan Stanley,

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Speaker 1: and what's so different and wonderful about his work is

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Speaker 1: a tour of duty, a substantial tour of duty in

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Speaker 1: Tokyo for Morgan stany family a good fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I think among the politicians, lots of saving

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Speaker 1: face going on here. Matthew Hornbach of Morgan Stanley on

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Speaker 1: saving face.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, you know, saving face is about you know, being

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Speaker 2: able to you know, face face both you know your

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Speaker 2: your inner soul as well as those of your friends

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Speaker 2: and your family and your constituents, and in the end

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Speaker 2: you know you're you're trying to You're trying to do

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Speaker 2: something that you think is the right thing to do,

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Speaker 2: both for yourself and your inner morality, as well as

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Speaker 2: as well as your the people for which you serve.

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Speaker 2: I think the concept of saving face is certainly one

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Speaker 2: that you know was maybe born in Asia, but I

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Speaker 2: think is really a human concept. You're trying to do

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Speaker 2: the best thing for you and the people that you

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Speaker 2: care about, and I think for a lot of politicians

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Speaker 2: around the world, you know that that that sometimes can

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Speaker 2: be tricky. There's a lot of different constituents that you serve,

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Speaker 2: but it's a human concept more than just a concept.

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Speaker 2: On the Pacific Rim.

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Speaker 1: Nicely said, and there will be a little bit of

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Speaker 1: that moving forward here as we try to extricate ourselves

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Speaker 1: in some form some way of this moment. The interview

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Speaker 1: of the week, without question, was Scott Bessant, the Secretary

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Speaker 1: of Treasury in Washington. At theF The IIF is nothing

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Speaker 1: more than the big bank lobby group. It's just as

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Speaker 1: simple as that, and the big issues with Charles Delaara

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Speaker 1: ran it for years and Tim Adams came in and

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Speaker 1: has done a phenomenal job providing leadership and messaging for

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Speaker 1: the group. He was the one who interviewed Scott Bessant

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Speaker 1: at this important speech. Here's Timothy Adams of THEIF on

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Speaker 1: the moment at end.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you remember Bush forty one, who I worked

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Speaker 3: for as a young White House staffer, talked about a

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Speaker 3: kinder Jendler country, and I think that's true. I had

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Speaker 3: the honor working for Bush forty three as well, and

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Speaker 3: they believe it in real decorum. Look, I think there

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Speaker 3: are a lot of people across the country trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out which of the two boxes they fit in.

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Speaker 3: I just would like to find a party that wants

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Speaker 3: to be pro growth, pro business, pro capital formation, pro

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Speaker 3: risk taking, that believes in trade. As I said, We've

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Speaker 3: got two hundred and fifty years of experience that trade

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Speaker 3: actually makes us wealthier. So that's what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's no reason why the Republican Party

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Speaker 3: can't offer that or the Democratic Party. Right now, I

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Speaker 3: think the Democratic Party is a bit lost, but there's

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to reinvent themselves.

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Speaker 1: Tim Adams, with a charge for the week, for the year,

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Speaker 1: and maybe into twenty twenty six as well. We are

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Speaker 1: in your commute across America. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: your interest, for getting in some of the numbers, and

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