1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay F Daily with 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Pre recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: as you know, we are making the sprint, the final 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: sprint to midterm elections, and like I have said previously 5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: this week, I need folks to take care of themselves, 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: their level of anxiety, their level of stress. No one 7 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen until it does, so I 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: want to be really clear about that. And I have 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: always said on this show that poles are poles are poles, 10 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: and you know, had the polls been accurate, we would 11 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: be in a completely different America than the one that 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: we are living through right now. And so what I 13 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: continue to say is is dive into some news, take 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: yourself out of it, focus on your self care, focus 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: on your rituals and practices of restoration and rest because 16 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that what we are in for, what 17 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: is before us is the very rapidly shifting political and 18 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: cultural climate in these United States. And I will tell 19 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: you that regardless of whether or not Democrats are able 20 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: to hold on to both the House and the Senate, 21 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: breaking with history, breaking with patterns that we know all 22 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: too well that the work to rebuild this country and 23 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: new is generations. It's generations of work that is going 24 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: to go into this. If we lose the upcoming midterm elections, 25 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: if we lose the House and the Senate or one 26 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: of them again, the political climate and the culture in 27 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: this country is going to continue to be tested beyond 28 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: anything that we have seen before. So I say all 29 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: of this to say, folks that it is incredibly important 30 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: to know your limitations, right, to not tap out completely, 31 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: but to understand and to know your limitations. And also 32 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: what's important. What's important right now is not what's being 33 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: said on your television, on any of your screens. What's 34 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: important is the actions that are being taken in real 35 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: life to either vote early, either vote on election day, 36 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: mail in your ballots, and then ensure that the people 37 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: around you. Do not take this for granted. Do not 38 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: take for granted what a phone call can do. Do 39 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: not take for granted what a text message can do. 40 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: Do not take for granted what a face book post 41 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: and an Instagram post and a tweet can do to 42 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: your own community, and for that community to activate them, 43 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Tell them what is at risk and what is on 44 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: the ballot right, You don't need to tell them that 45 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: the only reason they need to vote is to vote 46 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: against the Republican Party, which is fascist. That is not 47 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: what's going to sell them. Tell them that they are 48 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: voting for medicare, they are voting for social security, they 49 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: are voting for bodily autonomy, they are voting for public 50 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: school systems that are going to teach their children the 51 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: truth and how to be global citizens and be competitive. Right, 52 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: they are voting for stabilized economy. Tell them the things 53 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: that they are voting for when in fact they are 54 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: going to vote for Democrats. Coming up on the show today, 55 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: we have Delia Coleman, who is the deputy director of 56 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: Equal Rights Advocates. We get into a conversation about the 57 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: importance of black women and BIPOC, black Indigenous people of 58 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: color BIPOC people being uplifted during this midterm but in 59 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: every election, because what we oftentimes forget, and by we, 60 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean the Democratic establishment forgets, is who the base 61 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: of our party actually is. While Republicans are held bends 62 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: on feeding their rabid base any type of red meat 63 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: that they can, whether it be homophobia, transphobia, islamophobia, misogyny, 64 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: anti blackness. They're all about giving their base what it 65 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: is that they need. The Democrats do not do the same. They, 66 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, take for granted that their 67 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: base has nowhere else to go. Well, I'll tell you 68 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: where else the fuck they have to go, which is 69 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: to stay home. And we cannot afford that. Everybody has 70 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: said that we need the historic numbers that turned out 71 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen and that turned out in twenty twenty 72 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: to turn out this time. Right now, the early voting 73 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: is showing that we are on pace for that. And 74 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: so with the time, the less than two weeks that 75 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: we have, folks, I am urging each and every one 76 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: of you to utilize your own platforms to gather your 77 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: own people to get to the polls. As I've said 78 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: previously on election Day, if you're not doing any physical 79 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: labor in order to bring people to the polls, volunteering 80 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: at the polls, and doing things of that nature, then 81 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I need you not to be sitting in front of 82 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: your television screen driving yourself absolutely mad. As they say, 83 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: three percent of the vote is in and it looks 84 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: like a Republican is running away with the race. That 85 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: is the quickest way to a heart attack, a migraine, 86 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: and to a broken television. I'm telling you to do 87 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: what you can in the space that you occupy, and 88 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: then leave the rest. Just leave the rest, because worrying 89 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: about it, stressing about things that you can't physically change, 90 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: do not change them. But what it does do is 91 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: change you internally, and that's what we do not want. 92 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: So coming up next today is my conversation with Delia Coleman, 93 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: and we are going to talk about Equal Rights advocates 94 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: study and research that they've done on Family Voices, a 95 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: mixed method survey of family breadwinners that captures the economic 96 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: reality of black and LATINEX women after two years of 97 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: pandemic uncertainty. What their research has found is that nearly 98 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: half of the women's surveyed could not afford all of 99 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: their basic needs and cited issues like childcare costs, debt, 100 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: and workplace discrimination. So we'll get into the findings of 101 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: this research that they have done, and then also Delia 102 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: will offer up other narratives that we need to be 103 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: paying attention to. That and much much more is coming 104 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: up next. Hey, there, I want to tell you about 105 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 1: another podcast. I think you'll love The Brown Girl's Guide 106 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: to Politics, hosted by a Shanty Gooler, the president of Emerge. 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I am happy to welcome to woke 115 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: f for the first time, Dlia Coleman, who is a 116 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Deputy director of Equal Rights Advocate and wanting to discuss 117 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: the voices of black and brown women as we head 118 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: into mid term elections. You know what's funny is that 119 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: I find that in general, well Republicans, in my humble opinion, 120 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: don't reach out to women of color at all, But 121 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to Democrats, it only seems that we 122 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: are important when it's right about that time to vote. 123 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: So talk to us about what you have been noticing 124 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: and hearing and why it's important that we need to 125 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: tap in as we're just a few weeks out from 126 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: election day, Thank you so much, Danielle. I'm happy to 127 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: be here. You know, when midterm season runs comes around, 128 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: it's always like, oh, we're all on a track, and 129 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: we have to get ready, ready, ready, And I think 130 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: other black and brown women, particularly black women, have been 131 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: getting ready for the past two years, particularly because of 132 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: the pandemic. The pandemic was a major disruption in all 133 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: of our lives, and it of course hit black women 134 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: the hardest. And so what I've been noticing in the 135 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: work that I do day to day with equal rights advocates, 136 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: but also just as a black woman myself. Yes, one 137 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: of the things, some of the things that I've been 138 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: noticing is how precarious our position is economically right now. 139 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: And so those kitchen table issues which normally come up 140 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: during mid term season. You know, what are those kitchen 141 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: tab able economic issues that is at the front of 142 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: black women's minds right now. How are they going to 143 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: make it? How are they going to provide for their families? 144 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: What do their kids need? What do their families need? 145 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: And one of the things that some of the things 146 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: that we've been hearing childcare as well as elder care 147 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: as a concern. You know, how can they continue to 148 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: provide care for their families. How can they do that 149 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: and keep a job. How can they keep a job 150 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: or grow in that job. How can they make more money? 151 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: Because right now the math is not math in income 152 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: is not covering all of the needs. There are so 153 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: many external pressures like debt, credit card debt, student loan debt, mortgage, debt, rent, 154 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: all of these things combine to put a vice like 155 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: grip on black family breadwinners. And it's just one of 156 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: the things that is, you know, at top of mind. 157 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: In addition to things like the ongoing the ongoing crisis 158 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: in our criminal justice system and the ongoing crisis around 159 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: reproductive health. You know, black women are also disproportionately affected 160 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: when things like the job decision happen, and so cutting 161 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: off that critical access to reproductive healthcare is an issue 162 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: for a great many of us. And so that's that's 163 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: what's circling around my brain right now about what black 164 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: women are concerned about. Do you think that when the 165 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: media for in stance and then propped up by politicians, 166 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: are talking about quote unquote kitchen table issues, that they're 167 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: doing so in a way that delineates the distinctions between 168 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: what kitchen table issues mean for white women and what 169 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: it is that they mean for black Indigenous people of 170 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: color right, because I will tell you that I hate 171 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: the term kitchen table politics, you know, kitchen table issues, 172 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: because I think that everything is a kitchen table issue, 173 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: particularly for those people that can't afford a kitchen table. 174 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: So how how are things different? How do you see 175 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: them differently? And how has your reports that you have 176 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: done the research that EARA has done with family voices, 177 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: What are some of the things that were signified. So 178 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: our Family Voices research, which just came out over the 179 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: summer earlier this fall, was the brainchild of equal rights 180 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: advocates because at that time, during the pandemic, people were 181 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: talking about black and Latin X family breadwinners, but they 182 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: weren't talking to black and Latin X family breadwinners. And 183 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: that's what we wanted to do. We wanted to talk 184 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: to them, we wanted to listen to them, and we 185 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: wanted to understand. We have an educated guess, you know, like, Okay, 186 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: we think that these issues are important. We think that 187 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: pay is important, we think that equity in the workplace 188 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: is important. Those were assumptions that we had going in 189 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: when we dug into this project with this national survey 190 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: talking to Black and Latin family breadwinners across the country. 191 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: Those were certainly important, But what was different was the 192 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: intensity around some of these issues, and the intensity that 193 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: we saw around childcare, the intent city that we saw 194 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: around debt, the intensity that we saw around generational wealth building. 195 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: This was an eye opener for us because what that 196 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: showed us was that there is a context this kitchen 197 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: table and your question about you know, are people aware 198 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: of different kitchen tables that exist? No, I don't think 199 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: that people are aware of different kitchen tables that exist. 200 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: I think the learning curve, of the learning curve of 201 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: America broadly is sadly lacking, especially when it comes to 202 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: thinking about how different decisions affect different communities disproportionately. And 203 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: so when I think about the Black community in particular, 204 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: and even within the Black community, there are different kinds 205 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: of kitchen tables, right. So, how people understand these issues, 206 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: how people hear these issues, how they affect the women 207 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: in these communities is a matter of are you willing 208 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: to listen because what you here might not be what 209 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: you expect, and it might not be what you're prepared 210 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: for Luckily, some of the things that we heard, like 211 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the women that we surveyed said that 212 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: they were struggling to make ends. Me Now, intellectually, we 213 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: understand that wages have been depressed for the past forty 214 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: years or more, but what we weren't aware of was 215 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: the depth of that intensity they've been The women that 216 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: we spoke with were so, we're so, how can I 217 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: put the word the pressure of that struggle what that 218 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: meant for them? We heard a woman say I can't 219 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: die because I have nothing to pass on to my kids. 220 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: When we heard that in our and we had focus 221 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: groups that we called kitchen table conversations because we wanted 222 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: to build a table where our survey participants could gather 223 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: and we were doing this all on zoom, so that 224 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: they could share with one another and see that they 225 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: weren't alone and have a conversation about their common experiences. 226 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: And it was a deeply rich conversation. And we heard 227 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: stories like this continually. And so what does it mean 228 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: to not just advocate for a policy that says, yes, 229 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: black and brown women need equal pay, but to know 230 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,239 Speaker 1: that if they don't get equal pay, it is creating 231 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: mental and economic pressure so large that they feel that 232 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: they have to stay alive in order for their families 233 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: to make it, rather than you know, having enough so 234 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: that they can go through healthcare crisis, um, job crisis, 235 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: any kind of crisis, confident that their families are taken 236 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: care of. We also heard I just I want to 237 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: interrupt for a second, because you know that sentiment from 238 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: from from one of your participants just hits so deeply, right, um, 239 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: And I think you know, one of the things that 240 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: I find really troubling is that in American society, we 241 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: have mainstream has become comfortable with black suffering and pain. 242 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: So while we know these things to be true, while 243 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: we know that these you know, economic gaps and gaps 244 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: in um, in instability and wealth um persist and we're 245 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: created on purpose, how do you utilize the information that 246 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: you have gathered to not say, oh and so here's 247 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: another way, right that that that that black and brown 248 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: women are down trodden. But how do you how do 249 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: you make the case that their plight is a plight 250 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: on our overall success? You know, because I think that 251 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: that to me is where is where the problem is. 252 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: We know that black and brown lives in this country 253 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: don't matter right like that is that we are. We 254 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: are showcased that every single day. And so how do 255 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: you connect you know, the reality of what this participant 256 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: is saying, which I'm sure millions of black and brown 257 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: women can relate to and relate it to the whole, 258 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: so that the mainstream that dismisses us in general realizes 259 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: that their struggle is a shared struggle. I love that, Um, 260 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I love that question. Um. Shared struggle is uh something 261 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: that we talk a lot about here at r A. 262 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: And when we were having these kitchen table talks with 263 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: the survey participants, one of the questions I asked was, 264 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: what does the story you want to change about you 265 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: and your community in the media, in public perception. And 266 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: by and large, the main story that they wanted to 267 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: change about themselves was We're doing everything right. We are 268 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: doing exactly what has been asked of us. We're going 269 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: to school, we are working. The majority of the people 270 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: that we surveyed had jobs. The majority of the people 271 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: that we surveyed were married or partnered. The overwhelming majority 272 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: of the people that we surveyed had kids. Those are 273 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: literally the marker of the American dream. Get married, have kids, 274 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: have a home, get an education, do good. These people 275 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: are doing good. Black and brown women are doing good. 276 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: We believe the dream, and I think what is important 277 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: is to not concentrate on the trauma or the poverty, 278 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: porn of Oh, here's another community that is oppressed what 279 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: we want. I believe that in order to change what 280 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: needs to be changed, everyone needs to agree on that 281 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: shared vision of what it means to be here. All 282 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: of us deserve a chance to thrive. All of us 283 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: deserve an opportunity, and I think that is what the 284 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: crisis is facing us right now. We all need to 285 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: agree that we all deserve a chance to thrive and 286 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: take care of our families, or we don't. That's the 287 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: choice that's in front of us. And the way we 288 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: come at it as an organization is presenting that future 289 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: to the people who have the ability to help us 290 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: reach that future. They need to know this is what 291 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: our communities are experiencing and if we believe that there 292 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: is a path forward, these moms are just as important 293 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: as the top one percent. We cannot have a great 294 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: society if we are only thinking about what the top 295 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: one percent need. Indisputable with doctor Rashie Ricci, is one 296 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: of the latest shows on the TYT network and also 297 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: the fastest growing news show in America. 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Listen to Indisputable with Doctor Rashad 306 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: Ricci on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 307 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: If you like what you hear, be sure to subscribe 308 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: so you never miss a new episode. Do you think, Delia, 309 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: that there are more people that are invested in the 310 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: oppression then there are people invested in the idea of 311 00:22:53,600 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: shared struggle. And what I mean by that is I 312 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: want people to have deeper empathy, right, like to have 313 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: empathy outside of how things affect them. But what we've 314 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: seen over the last three years is that a majority 315 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: of people are maybe half fifty percent are in it 316 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: for themselves, right, Like we couldn't get people to wear 317 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: a mask, a thin paper cloth right to protect themselves 318 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: and also by virtue, protect people around them. They didn't care. Right, 319 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: this is a this is a community societal issue. And 320 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: so I'm just wondering, like, is there more people who 321 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: don't care and are invested in the continued oppression of 322 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: said group because they're part of the one percent? Right? 323 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: The one percent only functions if you have a permanent 324 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: working class that is desperate, right, that will accept your 325 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: low wages, that will accept your lack of healthcare, that 326 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: will accept your dangerous work environments because they are treading water. 327 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Or do you believe that there is there are more 328 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: people who are invested in this significant societal shift, but 329 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: we just need to message to them better. So I 330 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: am an idealist, and I also read national polls, and 331 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: so both of these things together show me that the 332 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: average American person actually believes in equality when they are 333 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: presented with questions about economic fairness. Yes, they do believe 334 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: that people need to earn more than a minimum wage. 335 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: They believe that the sub minimum wage is not enough 336 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: to get by. They believe that women should be paid 337 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: should be paid as much as their male counterparts get paid. 338 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: They believe that reproductive healthcare should be available to pregnant people. 339 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: So the majority of the American voters out there actually 340 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: believe in the same things that we believe in. So 341 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: what's the issue. The issue is that the other side 342 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: has a really big and really well funded megaphone, and 343 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: that megaphone has been loud, constant, and super disruptive over 344 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: the past five to six years, and that is a 345 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: lot of noise to get through. Now. Is messaging the 346 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: only way to get through that noise? No, But I 347 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: do think that messaging does help, and I'm really happy 348 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: to see that there have been some significant changes in 349 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. When I think about the 350 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: me invigorated worker justice movement that's going on right now, 351 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: and reinvigorated worker justice movement is being led by women, 352 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: young people, and people of color. That is not your 353 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: granddad's union, are, you know? And that gives me so 354 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: much hope, so much fire and the rest of us 355 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: normal everyday people need to take inspiration from that and 356 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: help that along. And so how do we do that 357 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: on a community to community person or person level. I 358 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: think about what I think about when I have a 359 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: conversation with a grocery store worker, I have to become 360 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: empathetic to their situation. I am not going to lose 361 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: my issue because someone is having a bad day at work, 362 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: because I know, but they're getting paid. They are getting 363 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: paid minimum wage. They have probably been passed up for 364 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: promotion multiple times, and so our system it is hard 365 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: to change the system, and there are many, many people 366 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: lined up to prevent us from changing the system. And 367 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: you can't just change a system with one vote. You 368 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: need multiple votes. You also need some community and people 369 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: power to go with that, and we need to start 370 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: telling different stories in the public square about why this matters. 371 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: There are some fantastic activists out there. When I think 372 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: about the people that we work with who are working 373 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: to change the mind parts and minds around the care economy. 374 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: Why are caregivers important to our society because without caregivers, 375 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: women drop out of the workforce. Why is a thriving, 376 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: more robust minimum wage important because without it, women who 377 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: work in certain industries get sexually harassed because they're held 378 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: hostage to their economic situation. And so the vision of 379 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: this world needs to be one based on liberation, freedom, autonomy, 380 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: and opportunity, and everyone deserves that, particularly the communities that 381 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: have been shut out of that. So long, Dahlia, last 382 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: question for you, what is your singular message to voters 383 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: right now who say things like both parties aren't doing anything, 384 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote, nothing's really going to change. 385 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: Nothing has ever changed, plenty has changed, plenty has changed. 386 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I personally, which that I could snap a finger and 387 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: incremental change could go by the wayside. But I know 388 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: that that is not how things work right now. Things 389 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: haven't changed because the numbers aren't working in our favor. 390 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: The margin that we have is too small to actually 391 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: mitigate the barriers that are in front of us. So 392 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: first we need to change the numbers voting in order 393 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: to change the numbers. I never look at my voting 394 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: practice as a one shot, a one shot deal that 395 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: solves everything. It is one tool in many tools that 396 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: I have available in front of me, and so one 397 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: tool is voting. Change the numbers, get rid of the barriers. 398 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: Second tool, hold the new numbers accountable. Most people don't 399 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: even talk to their elected officials, and so if you 400 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: don't talk to your elected officials, how do they know 401 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: what you care about. I think another thing is for 402 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: elected officials, and this was something that we heard from 403 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: our survey participants. Black and brown people know what they need. 404 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: They know exactly what they need, and they're not electorally 405 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: ignorant either. They know who's up for office, they know 406 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: who represents them, and they are looking at those offices 407 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: going I don't see in my community. I don't see 408 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: in my community. I don't see you helping us out 409 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: with what we need. And we remember, and certainly, I 410 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: think when I hear people say that both sides are 411 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: the same, that's just inaccurate. Both sides are not the 412 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: same as what is in front of us and what 413 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: is going to be affecting us going forward. We have 414 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: already seen how precarious our precious system of democratic process is, 415 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: and we need to protect that. We need to make 416 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: it more robust, and we need to make it more 417 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: accessible for everyone, because right now, the less people that participate, 418 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: the easier it is for authoritarian forces to do what 419 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: they want to our system of government, and so at 420 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: the very least, there needs to be a firewall against that. 421 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: Delia Coleman, thank you so much for making the time 422 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: to join Willkate F and thank you for the work 423 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: that Equal Rights Advocates is doing to lift up these 424 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: themes and these messages that people need to care about 425 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: get fired up about. We appreciate you, We appreciate you. 426 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for letting me get on my 427 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 1: soapbox and rant and ray for a few minutes. Absolutely, okay, 428 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: take care. That is it for me today. Dear friends 429 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: on Woke a f as always, Power to the people 430 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: and to all the people power, get woke and stay 431 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: woke as fuck.