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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Elite's bookshef bringing a world together
Speaker 3: with books, culture and community. Hi, my name is Malik,
Speaker 3: your host of Malik's Bookshelf. Welcome back everybody. We're gonna
Speaker 3: have a great time with this episode. I was blessed
Speaker 3: to speak with students at Pepperdine University. Now that was
Speaker 3: a first and it was a great conversation about DEEI, diversity,
Speaker 3: equity and inclusion. This was a communication class and the
Speaker 3: professor invited me to speak with her students about a
Speaker 3: bunch of concepts and theories surrounding d Now, this conversation
Speaker 3: when in a lot of different directions. I'm not an
Speaker 3: expert on DEI, but I do have experience about being black,
Speaker 3: being in business, and dealing with inequities and issues surrounding
Speaker 3: diversity and racism, which is the lack of inclusion. So
Speaker 3: my expertise. After being a bookstore owner for so many decades,
Speaker 3: I was invited to Pepperdine Universe to speak with some
Speaker 3: students regarding this subject matter, and we had a wonderful time,
Speaker 3: and so I want to feature that conversation that I
Speaker 3: had with the students. As you can see, they're bright,
Speaker 3: They're the future generational change. And they asked me a
Speaker 3: tremendous amount of important and insightful questions and I did
Speaker 3: my best to answer it. So enjoy this episode of
Speaker 3: Mali as he speaks with students at Pepperdine University.
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure meeting everyone. Thank you for giving me
Speaker 2: this opportunity to speak to the future generation of change.
Speaker 2: I would say my name is Malik Muhammad. I'm the
Speaker 2: founder and co owner of Malik Books. I've been serving
Speaker 2: the community since nineteen ninety with books and one of
Speaker 2: the main reasons why I do what I do is
Speaker 2: because I believe books are life changing and changed my
Speaker 2: life and I.
Speaker 1: Believe books of is the gift that keeps on giving.
Speaker 2: And so since nineteen thirty been a bookstore owner and
Speaker 2: I've hosted many events, many workshops, many seminars. I've hosted
Speaker 2: people I sent you to entertainer who was a common
Speaker 2: you know some of the people I know y'all know,
Speaker 2: and as well as a lot of self published authors
Speaker 2: that you don't know to the young lady named THEA
Speaker 2: Thatch who dlay Thatch, who wrote The Diversity Dilimma, and
Speaker 2: that book is all about d e I you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So we had her here, Muriel Buck
Speaker 2: who wrote the Breaking the Cycle of Transgenerational Trauma.
Speaker 1: So, uh, this goes on and on. Tyler the Brown,
Speaker 1: I can just keep going on. Terry Crews, Spike Lee,
Speaker 1: all of.
Speaker 2: These people I've got a chance to meet, talk to
Speaker 2: and host right here at Melite Books in the Westfield
Speaker 2: Coach City Mall.
Speaker 1: We do have little two locations.
Speaker 2: The second locations in the Baldwin Hills Princeshaw Plaza which
Speaker 2: is our og the original, but here in the Westfield
Speaker 2: Coach There which is our marque location. We've been about
Speaker 2: four years and this is mostly events that we host
Speaker 2: we host here, although we do host events at both locations.
Speaker 2: Our Instagram if you'd like to follows Malik Books, as
Speaker 2: well as our TikTok and uh and our Twitter. So
Speaker 2: but the most important thing for you to know about me,
Speaker 2: I'm a graduate from USC back in the nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2: I ran in the nineteen eighty four Olympic Games in
Speaker 2: track and field in the one hundred and two hundred meters.
Speaker 2: And I've been a book activist since nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: So that's a little bit about.
Speaker 2: Me as a background, a little bit about the bookstore,
Speaker 2: and from then let's talk. You know, I thank you
Speaker 2: for this importation, an amazing well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: You know. I believe that the older we get, we
Speaker 2: should get wiser, we should be more experienced.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I've was able to achieve.
Speaker 2: Since graduating from USC and people asking me this question,
Speaker 2: I'll time, why did you get in the book bit?
Speaker 1: I had a degree.
Speaker 2: From USC, but I didn't have a knowledge itself. A
Speaker 2: lot of things that y'all believe in the day wasn't
Speaker 2: coming back in the eighties in the nineties. You know,
Speaker 2: certain things is story. And I believe that one of
Speaker 2: the reason why we have such an explosion of controversy
Speaker 2: is because we have a difference in the way we
Speaker 2: see things and we're trying to level the playing field
Speaker 2: after so many years of oppression, and so.
Speaker 1: It seems like no matter.
Speaker 2: What suggestions people come up with, we always effaced with
Speaker 2: this controversy. We're in an age of bandon books. We're
Speaker 2: in an age of controversy about DIEI.
Speaker 1: You know, back in.
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighties, when I first started, back in the late eighties,
Speaker 2: when I opened my bookstore in nineteen ninety, what happened
Speaker 2: is there was a movement back then it was called
Speaker 2: multi culturalism, and all the money was appropriated to help
Speaker 2: level the playing field, and so a lot of money
Speaker 2: was spent to try to integrate and to try to
Speaker 2: balance the inequities.
Speaker 1: That exist in There.
Speaker 2: Are a lot of underserved communities and a lot of
Speaker 2: money and resources don't necessarily reach the people that really
Speaker 2: really needed. And so what happened is they created in
Speaker 2: the nineties the monticulturalists, particularly in the publishing industry as well,
Speaker 2: and so a lot of books were published because of
Speaker 2: the inequities. When you go in sign of major bookstores,
Speaker 2: you didn't see what a handful of black books. Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe one shelf is that? And so our voice wasn't published, we.
Speaker 1: Wasn't on the bookshelves. And so it was a movement
Speaker 1: that took place. I like to call it.
Speaker 2: From the black perspective, the Black book Revolution, and the
Speaker 2: White America they call it multiculturalists, but what.
Speaker 1: We spoke up.
Speaker 2: And so therefore in the nineties they started publishing in
Speaker 2: the publishing industry all types of black voices.
Speaker 1: Turk McMillan was one of the biggest.
Speaker 2: Names back in the nineties where she received the major
Speaker 2: publishing deal. Not only was the book a hit, but
Speaker 2: the movie that they made, Waited, that.
Speaker 1: Was a hit.
Speaker 2: The album they made Waiting to Us, that was a hit,
Speaker 2: and in the in the.
Speaker 1: Waiting, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: And the multiculturalism movement went all over the world, all
Speaker 2: over the university, and these published books. They tried to
Speaker 2: write books there, the representation books that showed to reflect,
Speaker 2: you know, images of black people and and our voice
Speaker 2: and our youth and our children and our young and
Speaker 2: so that itself became controversy, just like affirmative action in universities. UH.
Speaker 2: People start to fight against UH and and and that
Speaker 2: doing that because this is another generation today, y'all, another
Speaker 2: generation right now, they call it die I diversity equally inclusion,
Speaker 2: I believe right.
Speaker 1: So it's the same thing.
Speaker 2: And he called the bank where you have people trying
Speaker 2: to bottom line to go here is the level up
Speaker 2: is the great athlete is to create a balance and
Speaker 2: to drape the wrongs of the past. It's a lot
Speaker 2: of discrimination that we just don't want to admit, and
Speaker 2: so we have to find ways to try to level
Speaker 2: this field and make it fair and it you know,
Speaker 2: it's never gonna be you know, there's nothing in the
Speaker 2: universe that's equal. The only thing we can do is
Speaker 2: make things equal. Lead. So Lenk Books is just an
Speaker 2: outgrowth of trying to give voice to the voiceless in
Speaker 2: the world that has a lot of challenges and racism
Speaker 2: and discrimination. And so instead of complaining about and about
Speaker 2: books not being in white bookstores, I open up Elik
Speaker 2: Books to give our voice a place in a space.
Speaker 2: Now we got other books written by other people from
Speaker 2: up the coaches and rape. Why because a good book
Speaker 2: is a good.
Speaker 1: Mount and it needs to be written. And so one
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 2: Things that over the years that because of my passion
Speaker 2: and my desire.
Speaker 1: To use books to make a difference and a change.
Speaker 2: Because books if the gift that keeps on them. Book
Speaker 2: books also change your thoughts, change your life. And so
Speaker 2: what happened is over the years people were saying, man,
Speaker 2: this brother got a lot of energy. Man, this God
Speaker 2: is elected. Man, this dude is exciting about and it has.
Speaker 1: A passionable book. Well, I throw about so many people
Speaker 1: I can't even count.
Speaker 2: They say, man, you're the height Man of books. So
Speaker 2: now that's my nickname. Come only lead.
Speaker 1: The height Man of books. So so yeah, that.
Speaker 2: That's in a nutshell.
Speaker 1: You know, I love what I do and I do
Speaker 1: it with a passion. I believe this is a something.
Speaker 2: What's the name of this course?
Speaker 1: Please entry Cultural Communication?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know, just into cultural communicator said, you know,
Speaker 2: it could be a very challenging, difficult subject because the
Speaker 2: elephant in the room is racist and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: in a lot of circles, it doesn't want to be
Speaker 2: talked about.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: And like.
Speaker 1: I have a podcast called.
Speaker 2: Malik Bookshelf bringing the world together with books, culture and commuting.
Speaker 2: And I'm on one hundred and thirty three episodes. So
Speaker 2: my one hundred episode was called why I do what
Speaker 2: I do Because I do it with a passion. Right,
Speaker 2: So that was one hundredth episode. But I just recently
Speaker 2: did an episode called Respect and Protect the Black Woman.
Speaker 2: And what that episode is about was two different subject matters,
Speaker 2: but they really connect with each other. I interview Shannie
Speaker 2: Oden Well I interview. I talked to her, but I
Speaker 2: had a moderator right here at Believe.
Speaker 1: Books last Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Shannio Henderson is how many of y'all know kill O'Neill.
Speaker 1: She kill O'Neill. All right, all y'all know.
Speaker 2: He a famous Hall of Famer basketball player, won a
Speaker 2: ganga World champion. Wh that was his ex wife, Okay,
Speaker 2: And she wrote a book called Undefeated, and what the
Speaker 2: book is about was what she and challenges she had
Speaker 2: to go through when another book as a mother, as
Speaker 2: a wife, as an entrepreneur, and a producer of a
Speaker 2: hit show called Basketball Wise. So she had a lot
Speaker 2: of insight because there was a lot of infidelity in
Speaker 2: their marriages, and she, you know, talked about this in
Speaker 2: the book and how she didn't allow those adversities to
Speaker 2: stop her from being successful as a woman. A black
Speaker 2: woman a negative in America.
Speaker 1: See a woman as a negative because.
Speaker 2: Y'all had to fight for her every single thing, and
Speaker 2: then being a black woman's a negative. So she talks
Speaker 2: about this and still persevering became a free to the
Speaker 2: successful TV series or cable series called Basketball Wise, where
Speaker 2: she brought all these women to marry the basketball players
Speaker 2: and they try to create a friendship and talk about
Speaker 2: their marriages and relationships and what.
Speaker 1: They you know, and raising their kids.
Speaker 2: And all these things.
Speaker 3: So she was here and I had Jasmine Simpkins do
Speaker 3: the moderateor she's a journalist on KTLA, and it was
Speaker 3: a great conversation because you.
Speaker 2: Know, no one can tell your story but you, and
Speaker 2: she got a heck of a story. And she persevering
Speaker 2: and she was resilient, and her journey is so wonderful
Speaker 2: because you're gonna be faithful with obstacles and challenge and
Speaker 2: life in America. She didn't let the racism, she didn't
Speaker 2: let the discrimination, she didn't let the infidelity.
Speaker 1: She didn't let the double standards in the market. She
Speaker 1: didn't let none got to.
Speaker 2: Stop her from being the stuntful and not. The overall
Speaker 2: thing is that because these things exist in America, don't
Speaker 2: mean you can't win, don't mean you can't be successful,
Speaker 2: don't mean that you.
Speaker 1: Can't be an overwhelming achiever.
Speaker 2: And whatever you put your mind to, y'all in college
Speaker 2: to become the future generation of change. And part of
Speaker 2: this is that, you know, you got to relate to
Speaker 2: other people from other coaches, and it's and some things
Speaker 2: are a sensitive subject. Well, anyway, that was the first
Speaker 2: thing I featured on my episode Respect to Protect the
Speaker 2: Black Woman.
Speaker 1: Because she was talking about how she and what she went.
Speaker 2: Through and hurt and and things that she went on
Speaker 2: in her life and so and so doing I also
Speaker 2: had to talk about the some of the some of
Speaker 2: the most controversial you know, I guess you know social
Speaker 2: media and newsworthy Current Affairs is out now and that's
Speaker 2: on p ddy and that video that went viral or
Speaker 2: when he kicked Beete, threw down drag Katy his girlfriend,
Speaker 2: and so that was a very hard find. Many y'all
Speaker 2: saw that video. Raise their hand, just one, two, three,
Speaker 2: all listen, just about everybody. So well, anyway, I talked
Speaker 2: about that video, but not necessarily talking about PD. His
Speaker 2: behavior is unexcusable. But what I wanted to connect is
Speaker 2: what's called post traumatic slavery syndrome that exists in America
Speaker 2: that multi professional site don't.
Speaker 1: Want to talk about. There's a lot of trauma in black.
Speaker 2: Communities and all over this country and none of that
Speaker 2: is being addressed. And this is not a shield to
Speaker 2: sin such horrific and savage behavior by p daddy attacking
Speaker 2: an assaultant his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: All right, but I want to talk.
Speaker 2: About because the GYP don't start with him. All over
Speaker 2: this nation a woman whether he oh see white, it's
Speaker 2: being a type, it's been.
Speaker 1: A fut it's being assaulted. And this maddness.
Speaker 2: How you gonna have a society and a similation where
Speaker 2: doesn't respect.
Speaker 1: And protective woman.
Speaker 2: But I'm specifically talking about Black people because our women
Speaker 2: have to be respected or protected.
Speaker 1: And we was taught a.
Speaker 2: Bad behavior a long time ago, and that's doing slave.
Speaker 2: Now people say, oh, that's the thing in the fact,
Speaker 2: but you can pass along generational traumas and bad behavior,
Speaker 2: and this is what is taking place. I believe in
Speaker 2: psychiatrist and it's called post traumatic slave rey sidual. This
Speaker 2: is no different than a person to go off the
Speaker 2: war and get peet get post trauma. Uh uh, you know.
Speaker 1: When you go to war PSD. I forgot the name
Speaker 1: the term. But they go to war and come back
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 2: Got issues, you know, they witnessed things, they got trauma,
Speaker 2: they got to disorder and they got in there PDSD
Speaker 2: or something like that. Right, So my thing was a
Speaker 2: lot of this behavior is passed on a lot of
Speaker 2: people think that the way you treat a person is
Speaker 2: by and control a person is through physical abuse and
Speaker 2: that type of methodology. And so a lot of that
Speaker 2: was passed on because use doing slavery. You got to
Speaker 2: understand that the slave my rates attacked, beat, drag slot
Speaker 2: and did so many horrific things to black women and
Speaker 2: a lot of insensitive A lot.
Speaker 1: Of you won't talk about that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know, they don't make a lot of movies and
Speaker 2: they don't write a lot of books where they show
Speaker 2: you the torture and the humiliation and the sabbagery that
Speaker 2: White America did the black people. All right, Well, a
Speaker 2: lot of black men adopted some of these wickedness that
Speaker 2: we learned doing slavery, and they passed it on generational
Speaker 2: thinking that that's how you control your environment and your
Speaker 2: community and your women and your children, and this kind
Speaker 2: of behavior as the stuff. That's what I did.
Speaker 1: My podcast around respect to protect them.
Speaker 2: But it is that we need to address the trauma
Speaker 2: and the abuse that goes on on a daily basis,
Speaker 2: and then and then beating video should just be the
Speaker 2: start of the address a real issue that takes place
Speaker 2: all over this country that needs to stop.
Speaker 1: And it ain't just in the white men, it's in
Speaker 1: all communities that a lot of this.
Speaker 2: This white white woman had to fight for every rank
Speaker 2: that you see in American just like we did, you know,
Speaker 2: because you know, there's a lot of masculinity going on
Speaker 2: where they feel that you know, might makes right. So anyway,
Speaker 2: that's my latest podcast. But I'm trying not into d
Speaker 2: e I because you know, it's to me, there there, there,
Speaker 2: there there discrimination this all over this country, and to me,
Speaker 2: the agenda of d e I is simply.
Speaker 1: To level the playing field.
Speaker 2: Now person can disagree in saying that is unfair, it's
Speaker 2: goble discrimination or racism or whatever.
Speaker 1: When you come up with.
Speaker 2: A solution, up with relief books to deal with the
Speaker 2: problem in the publishing industry where they didn't put black
Speaker 2: books on the bookshelf, and our voice matter. So I
Speaker 2: came up with a solution. I didn't complain about the solution.
Speaker 2: I came up with a way to elevate our voices.
Speaker 2: And that's what your face with and challenge it. There
Speaker 2: are wrongs in this world that need to be corrected,
Speaker 2: and we need to come up with solutions and so
Speaker 2: you want to knock down something, you need to come
Speaker 2: with something. You follow what I'm saying, Sir.
Speaker 5: You seem like a really all spoken person.
Speaker 2: But do you.
Speaker 5: Believe outside of the books, more radical actions and even
Speaker 5: violence is necessary in living a playing field Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Right now, that's a wonderful question because that's an ongoing debate.
Speaker 2: You know, history is best way to reward us because
Speaker 2: of the research of it.
Speaker 1: Now, I do.
Speaker 2: Believe history is written in advance, like you plan what
Speaker 2: the city gonna look like fifty on hundred years in advan.
Speaker 1: That's real, Issy.
Speaker 2: Past history just is like God and information that.
Speaker 1: We can study in order to improve our decisions going forward.
Speaker 1: So we live in the past.
Speaker 2: We got to live in a president and the now,
Speaker 2: and we have to think about tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So the question is, you know, do I think violence?
Speaker 2: And I believe absolutely that.
Speaker 1: Violence is not the answer because it only creates more violence.
Speaker 2: Now, why do I say that we got listen, unless
Speaker 2: you have unless you have the same capabilities as the
Speaker 2: oppressor and the people in power, you're not gonna outbeat
Speaker 2: them and what they're and what they Listen, we got
Speaker 2: the Black the Party who believe in picking up up weapons.
Speaker 2: All right, we got history and what happened to the
Speaker 2: black panther problem. It became a blood vibe and they
Speaker 2: lost because they're not time to.
Speaker 1: Go in strategically.
Speaker 2: Able to deal with the forces that is running this world.
Speaker 2: The greatest truth you have right now is the truth.
Speaker 2: And we must use the truth in all ways to
Speaker 2: deal with falsehood and evil. And if that means that
Speaker 2: in the process you might end up getting hurt.
Speaker 5: Then.
Speaker 1: That's a sacrifice.
Speaker 2: Sometimes like a slave, all right, he they was forced
Speaker 2: to do. You know, listen, I'm not saying somebody attack you.
Speaker 2: You know you defend yourself, all right, but if but
Speaker 2: you should never be the aggressor. You know, fight with
Speaker 2: those who fight with you, but never bet the aggressor.
Speaker 1: That's the key.
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King was owned something when he's when he
Speaker 2: didn't want. And I'm not an advocate of seeking dogs
Speaker 2: on people and water holes on people and not defindish yourself.
Speaker 2: If somebody attacked you, you need to type back and
Speaker 2: defend yourself. That your God given right. If you physically
Speaker 2: get abused, you need to defend yourself.
Speaker 1: But if you physically assault somebody, they have a right
Speaker 1: to assault you black.
Speaker 2: And so that's why I'm saying that I don't believe
Speaker 2: just picking up being violent is the sole answer to
Speaker 2: solving gus that playing just asciety why because you're not
Speaker 2: gonna beat to the oppressor at his own game. His
Speaker 2: game is physical abuse, lines and wrong and race them here.
Speaker 2: You have to do the opposite in order to.
Speaker 1: Beat them at their own game.
Speaker 2: The minute you assault them back, that's gonna be the headline.
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna beating you defend yourself what you have
Speaker 2: a right to do. It's gonna be the fact that
Speaker 2: you assaulted them instead of they thought that you.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 2: You in a war of propaganda, and you got to
Speaker 2: win that first. You got to get the people on
Speaker 2: your side first.
Speaker 1: You can't just attack and then in that.
Speaker 2: Way and you don't got no support, and they control
Speaker 2: the media, and they made you look like you assaulted
Speaker 2: and a type first. So I'm saying, you got to
Speaker 2: use strategy, You got to use tactics. You got to
Speaker 2: be smart. But if you go out there and you
Speaker 2: seem like you the aggressor and you doing things physically
Speaker 2: vandalizing and rioting and all that, you ain't gonna win
Speaker 2: that argument, and they're gonna make you out to look
Speaker 2: like a criminal, and you're gonna lose that. And that's
Speaker 2: what happened with anybody to go out there and do
Speaker 2: those kind of things. And I look at the Black
Speaker 2: Panther history and see and there are other socialists out
Speaker 2: there who have adopted that type of philosophy. They did
Speaker 2: not win in the end, they got uprooted. I'm taking win.
Speaker 1: Oh God, my answer your question right, I mean joying
Speaker 1: this combination anybody else.
Speaker 2: In that question? Sorry?
Speaker 1: I got one more.
Speaker 5: If you would to add a course to the public
Speaker 5: school system that you want to educate to the younger generation,
Speaker 5: what kind of course would you have?
Speaker 2: So if I had to put a course together for
Speaker 2: a younger generation, it would be on love of self
Speaker 2: to address hatred of self, you know, I would my
Speaker 2: course in Correculum would be the start of young and
Speaker 2: and go over the statistics and.
Speaker 1: All the data to show that.
Speaker 2: You have to love yourself to be yourself, and if
Speaker 2: you really want to be successful, you have to zone
Speaker 2: in to your gifts and who you are, you know,
Speaker 2: and that would be my course, and then teach how
Speaker 2: to fight against attacks against you.
Speaker 1: If your hair ain't right if your.
Speaker 2: Hair is course, to combat the color of your skin,
Speaker 2: if you're attack the assaulted, because.
Speaker 1: They say black as ugly and white as beautiful.
Speaker 2: To find ways and methods to teach black people that
Speaker 2: these things that you can guard against by loving yourself
Speaker 2: and not buying into that.
Speaker 1: So the course and.
Speaker 2: Curriculum I would teach because I believe children are one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of our future, and I believe we have
Speaker 2: to teach them to love themselves to beat themselves. The
Speaker 2: first thing a child looks at in a picture is
Speaker 2: look they look for themselves. Now, they've been done a
Speaker 2: lot of studies, and they had like doll babies with girls,
Speaker 2: and certain things were boys, and they always gravitate towards
Speaker 2: things that don't look like them. And it starts early,
Speaker 2: and so I believe early prevention is necessary. So I think,
Speaker 2: like I said, if I had to have a curriculum,
Speaker 2: it would be the teacher teach about love or self,
Speaker 2: but also had a backup, which I think is just
Speaker 2: as equally important. And it really is a toss up.
Speaker 2: I believe ninety percent of our problems in the black
Speaker 2: community is tied to economics.
Speaker 1: And I believe that part.
Speaker 2: Responsibility for any nation is to learn how to do
Speaker 2: for self. Everyone is not cut out for a college environment.
Speaker 2: Some of us is cut out to be entrepreneurs and
Speaker 2: to go a different direction. Some of us are cut
Speaker 2: out to be tradesmen like electric plumbing. You don't have
Speaker 2: to go to a four year school. Know that, and
Speaker 2: some of us have to do something. Some of us
Speaker 2: are cut out to go to a four year school
Speaker 2: and work for somebody instead of working for yourself. But
Speaker 2: the number one goal for any culture, any right or race,
Speaker 2: is that you must not only love yourself. And part
Speaker 2: of that is that you got to do for self.
Speaker 2: And so you got to create income, recycle the money
Speaker 2: in your.
Speaker 1: Community, support each other.
Speaker 2: This is our every nation becomes superior in Mighty. America
Speaker 2: is great because it does does for self.
Speaker 1: You got to look.
Speaker 2: Out for self Earth And I think that in the
Speaker 2: black community, we have to emphasize, just like other coaches.
Speaker 1: Do, economic development, and we have to.
Speaker 2: Teach financial literacy at an early age. These are conversations
Speaker 2: that we cannot wait until we adult to deal with.
Speaker 2: We got to teach how money is made and how
Speaker 2: to multiply and invest money. All of those subject matters,
Speaker 2: and I think that that is a curriculum that we
Speaker 2: got to do early and not way to college and
Speaker 2: take it as an elective or as a degree. So
Speaker 2: I believe ninety percent of our problems in the Black
Speaker 2: community and a lot of and that's what DEA is
Speaker 2: all about.
Speaker 1: Leveling the plan field will having education around.
Speaker 2: Entrepreneurship, economics, finances, business, I think should start very early.
Speaker 2: And I think that you have to understand like it
Speaker 2: is the responsibility for every culture to create jobs for itself,
Speaker 2: and every job can't come from out your community. You've
Speaker 2: got to do forself as well. And we are responsible
Speaker 2: to create at least two million jobs within our own
Speaker 2: community through entrepreneurship.
Speaker 1: That is our responsibility.
Speaker 2: And if we don't do that, we become a burden
Speaker 2: on society where you're acting for handdous in welfare and
Speaker 2: jobs where you don't even have the skills to even do.
Speaker 2: And that's the problem is that we have to focus
Speaker 2: on that and it's not being done. When I grew
Speaker 2: up in high school, we had trade jobs.
Speaker 1: Ime, I'm sorry, trade classes.
Speaker 2: I could have took in high school car mechanic or
Speaker 2: plumbing or carpentry, cooking, sewing. These are trades that made
Speaker 2: people middle class and wealthy.
Speaker 1: But what happened is a lot of.
Speaker 2: These people who had these trades, these auto mechanics and
Speaker 2: these plumbing companies, when they had children, and their children
Speaker 2: wanted to go off to go to college and go
Speaker 2: work for somebody else and not take over the business. See,
Speaker 2: And that's became a burden and a problem in our community.
Speaker 2: And so it was it wasn't no accident that they
Speaker 2: took these trade jobs out because we became middle class
Speaker 2: and versus sceptible. And all of a sudden, now you
Speaker 2: took out things that can create wealth and jobs in
Speaker 2: our in our community. And so it was my design
Speaker 2: that they took all of that out. And so and
Speaker 2: then and then through the sixties in December when I
Speaker 2: told you history can reward you for the reason serves
Speaker 2: the data.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the language was, oh,
Speaker 1: everybody go to college. Everybody go to college.
Speaker 2: Okay, you want one hundred percent of black people to
Speaker 2: go to college just to get a degree and go
Speaker 2: to work for corporate America, and that work for yourself.
Speaker 2: One point five trillion dollars come through the hands of
Speaker 2: black people and we don't do anything.
Speaker 1: Monumental with that.
Speaker 2: We are the seventh richest nation on the planet, and
Speaker 2: we don't recycle that one point five trand dollars within
Speaker 2: our own community.
Speaker 1: This is devastating, This is.
Speaker 2: Hurting us, and we need to be educated on how
Speaker 2: to recycle that money and build that money and invest
Speaker 2: that money. Instead we turn around.
Speaker 1: We don't make taller paper, we.
Speaker 2: Don't make potatoes, we don't make no clothes, we don't
Speaker 2: make nothing. So all that money go back to White America.
Speaker 2: This has to stop, and that's what's killing us. You
Speaker 2: have to target that money. Other coaches target that money
Speaker 2: in order to leverage it for the next generation. And
Speaker 2: so we need to create and oational wealth. So education
Speaker 2: in terms of entrepreneurship economics is so vital and love
Speaker 2: of stealth because they go together, they go together, and
Speaker 2: I can't stress it enough. So that would be my curriculus.
Speaker 2: That was a very good.
Speaker 6: Question, Stavian, Thank you so much for answering them so well.
Speaker 2: They're are toaching on a lot of concepts that we've
Speaker 2: been discussing in class.
Speaker 1: Anybody als with that question.
Speaker 5: Do you think bruling class use public public school systems
Speaker 5: and consumerism to keep the black community poor and then
Speaker 5: to your custom.
Speaker 2: Education is designed for control. Thank you the government of
Speaker 2: America for giving our free education up until college. Okay,
Speaker 2: until you get there. But there's a motive in mind,
Speaker 2: and that's control. And most people that come out, you know,
Speaker 2: we are warehousing students and not educating students. America is
Speaker 2: the biggest economy in the world. America is the most
Speaker 2: biggest super power in the world, but has the worst
Speaker 2: that's the change compared to other nations all over this
Speaker 2: planet in terms of high school, elementary and not by design.
Speaker 1: It's by design.
Speaker 2: Listen, these are the these are the smartest and wisest
Speaker 2: people on the planet.
Speaker 1: When you see something taking for.
Speaker 2: Its work, for what it is and not make excuses,
Speaker 2: it's by design that they dumped down the education system
Speaker 2: and warehouse the future generation and chamber.
Speaker 1: Without teachers, there is no future.
Speaker 2: Without educating the young generation, there is no future. So
Speaker 2: what what I see and what I've read and the
Speaker 2: data is that I see is that it's by design
Speaker 2: that the education system is not effective. But is Nothing
Speaker 2: is absolute, so there's never one hundred percent, So you're
Speaker 2: always gonna have certain people who DeFi the odd outliers.
Speaker 2: A lot of books talk about outliers. So you're not
Speaker 2: gonna get everybody, You're gonna getmost. And the outliers are
Speaker 2: the ones that's gonna stand out and they're gonna do
Speaker 2: things that's gonna be the fighter odds and underestimate everybody,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna show you them to make you believe
Speaker 2: that the education system is perfect, it works good, it stayed.
Speaker 1: Of course, the education system is.
Speaker 2: Nothing but warehousing ignorance and savagery. And it's by design
Speaker 2: that way. And that's what I believe. I don't believe
Speaker 2: that you know, is its intent is to create success
Speaker 2: in the way that we need it in order to
Speaker 2: change our lives and our community.
Speaker 1: And I'm be honest.
Speaker 2: Most colleges are the same way. They about the money
Speaker 2: and not the honey. They ain't trying to create, you know,
Speaker 2: the future generation and trains. They trying to get four
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars out of you and give you
Speaker 2: a car with no key to drive it. Most people
Speaker 2: coming out of college are working in other fields and
Speaker 2: not what they majored in. Why listen, if you're gonna
Speaker 2: go to college and be a doctor, I get it.
Speaker 2: An engineer and science I get.
Speaker 1: It is worthwhile.
Speaker 2: But if you're majoring in all the other subjects, I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's worthwhile because you because you're paying
Speaker 2: a lot of money for a degree, they don't mount
Speaker 2: to nothing. But it's science and engineer because those are
Speaker 2: the the courses or industries that make civilizations grow as well,
Speaker 2: and so those are the areas. And if the college
Speaker 2: isn't want to.
Speaker 1: Reduce to that, that's half of the student body. So
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna make no money.
Speaker 2: So I don't I think there's a profit involved in
Speaker 2: colleges and super succeed the quality of the education. And
Speaker 2: I think in the UH, in the minor school systems
Speaker 2: before college, there's an intent to rob, to destroy and
Speaker 2: undermine the future generation that goes to these public schools
Speaker 2: and in some cases even some of these private schools.
Speaker 1: So that that's my thing.
Speaker 2: That's my thinking on that is that because in government
Speaker 2: of America, you know, it costs you a lot more.
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's about control. You know, that's
Speaker 2: first and foremost. Is that So if you become wealthy,
Speaker 2: even if you outlined as long as you think in
Speaker 2: a certain way like the mainstream they got.
Speaker 1: You know, it don't matter.
Speaker 2: You're gonna build that world. College you wist and wrote
Speaker 2: a book. And if you ain't ready to call miseducation
Speaker 2: of the Negro and College you Wishing is the father
Speaker 2: of Black History Month.
Speaker 1: He used to be called Black History Week. If you
Speaker 1: ain't read College.
Speaker 2: You Wishing book, miseducation or nigga's a black man educated.
Speaker 2: But he tells you when you don't control your education,
Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about the action of the people.
Speaker 1: Even if you close the door on them, they will.
Speaker 2: Carve out another door and walk right through it to
Speaker 2: do exactly what you educated.
Speaker 1: And that's how powerful education is.
Speaker 2: And when you control it, you control the actions of
Speaker 2: the people.
Speaker 1: And it's not set up.
Speaker 2: America wasn't built because of education and voting. America was
Speaker 2: built because of entrepreneurs and people who believe in the
Speaker 2: idea of building a nation. And once they built the nation,
Speaker 2: they created a system to control the masters of the
Speaker 2: people to do exactly what they need them to do
Speaker 2: to maintain that nation.
Speaker 1: What concept do that?
Speaker 2: That is?
Speaker 3: We've been learning about this concept for what's that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Power distance?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been learning about this concept of power distance.
Speaker 6: So it's sort of like summarizes.
Speaker 2: What you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, why no power?
Speaker 2: Let me tell you this. You know, people say, oh,
Speaker 2: it's all about the money. It's all right, No, it's
Speaker 2: not always about the money. People will lose war, you know,
Speaker 2: and war you lose money. You might gain and building
Speaker 2: weapons and all that, but you lose a lot and
Speaker 2: no one really wins. But the person who comes out
Speaker 2: on top they get to control. And that's what it's for,
Speaker 2: is to gain control. And I've seen businesses lose money
Speaker 2: after money and never make a change because it's all
Speaker 2: about control. Particularly in the journalism field. A lot of
Speaker 2: these news a lot of these stations don't make any money.
Speaker 2: In the news stations, they lose money and they never
Speaker 2: change their platform. And you got to ask yourself, why
Speaker 2: why don't you do the same information over and over,
Speaker 2: use the same personalities over and over and you don't
Speaker 2: make no profit. It's because it's more about control what
Speaker 2: they tell you then about and then about making money.
Speaker 1: They got to control you first.
Speaker 2: That's why you can turn every station they say the
Speaker 2: same thing over and over because they're trying to control
Speaker 2: it's all propaganda and that's what power is derived after
Speaker 2: you get control.
Speaker 1: But if you ain't got control, you ain't got no power.
Speaker 2: It ain't all about the money off the time. You know,
Speaker 2: families don't have a lot of money, but they got
Speaker 2: control of then kids.
Speaker 1: That's why they got power.
Speaker 2: Money don't give you power. What I'm saying is you
Speaker 2: can have money and have no control, and the powers
Speaker 2: they run things can destroy you even with all your money.
Speaker 6: Do you think and like today's society, social media is
Speaker 6: doing a good job of educating, like the changes that
Speaker 6: need to be implemented, or do you think social media
Speaker 6: is doing a better job of controlling what's already mainstreamed
Speaker 6: wall That's a.
Speaker 2: Beautiful question, and it's like a yes and no no.
Speaker 1: It's like social media.
Speaker 2: Has an impact on the only society, but the whole world,
Speaker 2: and everybody's on there with a different motive.
Speaker 1: The platform is on.
Speaker 2: There that they provide for us, like meta Twitter, they
Speaker 2: have their own motive that's about profit. Okay, Now people
Speaker 2: help and to become this on there and they utilize
Speaker 2: it for their own motives. And as a result, social
Speaker 2: media had became an outlet to work around mainstream media
Speaker 2: and in such an effective way, they started censoring people
Speaker 2: on social media because for what is worth, it was
Speaker 2: reaching a new generation and people in a way.
Speaker 1: News and newspapers wasn't.
Speaker 2: And so now the power structure started meeting with the
Speaker 2: social media. It was all about money, and now they
Speaker 2: starting to censor people because they start as a way
Speaker 2: where they can circumvent and get a message out without
Speaker 2: having to be interviewed by AGENCNBC, CBS and Auto Mantion
Speaker 2: network to control everything. So it's very powerful platform and
Speaker 2: they're censoring people because freedom of speech.
Speaker 1: This the first Amendment. But that's the saving grace of America.
Speaker 1: It's why America is different from a lot of nations.
Speaker 2: Right now, you can say certain things in other name,
Speaker 2: it's got right out right then you shot down in
Speaker 2: the street.
Speaker 1: Not in America. You was given a living in right.
Speaker 1: Don't mean you're not.
Speaker 2: Gonna be prosecuted, I mean persecuted. Persecuted don't means others
Speaker 2: not going to like what you say.
Speaker 1: But you can turn the channel.
Speaker 2: But they want to effectively stop you from saying certain
Speaker 2: things because it.
Speaker 1: Don't work in their advantage.
Speaker 2: Because they want they send you to school to think
Speaker 2: like they want you to think. And when you don't
Speaker 2: think like that, they mad, they upset, they hurt you.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh man, they use to me to teach
Speaker 2: people different than the way we thought. We gotta do
Speaker 2: something about this, so the government start meeting with them
Speaker 2: on a regular basis. And guess what is for censorship.
Speaker 2: You don't have to like it, you turn it, you
Speaker 2: flip it, just you know. But social media is a
Speaker 2: great technology, but it's being manipulated today and the power
Speaker 2: structure is trying to control it because they want to
Speaker 2: control us. So that's how I see it.
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask how you how you started up
Speaker 5: your business, Like what was that process like for you?
Speaker 2: I had a degree from USC but I didn't have
Speaker 2: a knowledge itself. So I opened the bookstore because I
Speaker 2: thought books can make a difference, and as it did
Speaker 2: in my life in the community.
Speaker 1: And I didn't have much money.
Speaker 2: I didn't have any money, and I wanted to hear
Speaker 2: to tell you that money gonna stop you from your
Speaker 2: dream and what you want to do.
Speaker 1: You got to find a way, you know.
Speaker 2: I got tons of people who had no money and
Speaker 2: they're wealthy or they was able to do what they
Speaker 2: gotta do.
Speaker 1: They found a way. They didn't rob a bank.
Speaker 2: You don't said or none of that.
Speaker 1: But I you know.
Speaker 2: When you when you meet people in different walks of life,
Speaker 2: sometimes I can translate into a relationship. And I part
Speaker 2: laid a relationship into a credit line and I was
Speaker 2: able to buy books.
Speaker 1: And that's how I got started. I just you know,
Speaker 1: build on that. And I had to learn.
Speaker 2: I didn't graduate from collegeod a business brewer. I had
Speaker 2: public administration. So I had to learn on the job,
Speaker 2: how to be entrepreneur, how to market, how to record,
Speaker 2: keep I had all the things that going to running
Speaker 2: a business. I had to learn on the job. And
Speaker 2: if you do something long enough, you'll learn all the
Speaker 2: things you need to do. And so along the way,
Speaker 2: I learned how to develop my brand, believe books and
Speaker 2: our mission, and to be able to post events and
Speaker 2: seminars and workshops. And so I started, you know, back
Speaker 2: in the in in nineteen ninety with no money, but
Speaker 2: I had friendships and I leveraged that and I grew
Speaker 2: I had by creating partnerships with other people as well.
Speaker 2: And so I think that you know, you start where
Speaker 2: you start, and you go from there and you try
Speaker 2: to develop whatever the other parts that you need in
Speaker 2: order to grow. What it is you have is an
Speaker 2: idea or business, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's how that's how I started.
Speaker 2: I started realie. But I had to be motivated to start,
Speaker 2: and I had to have the stink to it them
Speaker 2: and the determination because it ain't always have been profitable.
Speaker 2: It's been a lot.
Speaker 1: Of years and decades where you just you.
Speaker 2: Know, you in business, but you ain't really making no money,
Speaker 2: you ain't really making no real.
Speaker 1: Impact that you can see.
Speaker 2: But when people over the years come in and they
Speaker 2: come in our store and they cry, they start dashing,
Speaker 2: they thank us, you know, because we get voice of
Speaker 2: voiceless and we have a mission and that's and that's
Speaker 2: the use books to make a difference in it and
Speaker 2: change our community through the written work.
Speaker 1: Books have been around for thousands of dollars and years.
Speaker 1: They're not going nowhere.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you at that point, I realized one thing.
Speaker 2: After thirty years of doing what I do and using
Speaker 2: books as the medium to make a difference and a change,
Speaker 2: now I realized that that's my activation and I realized
Speaker 2: that I'm actually a book activist. So you know, there
Speaker 2: are a lot of ways to make your mark, you know,
Speaker 2: and people who are activists out there, but I'm a
Speaker 2: specifically a book activist, and I realized that because of
Speaker 2: the work that I've been able to do over these
Speaker 2: last thirty years, I raised money through nonprofit organizations to
Speaker 2: donate books to schools.
Speaker 1: Last year we was.
Speaker 2: Blessed to raise thirty thousand dollars and give out ten
Speaker 2: thousand books in the community to underserve children and you
Speaker 2: and teams in the community.
Speaker 1: So, you know, we make it more than.
Speaker 2: Ourselves because we got to think bigger than ourselves think
Speaker 2: about you know, at least here I believe we think
Speaker 2: about the next generation because you're on the next movies
Speaker 2: and shapers you will.
Speaker 6: I have another question, so this is just kind of
Speaker 6: like your opinion, but if there is only one book
Speaker 6: that you could advocate or kind of show the next
Speaker 6: generation to like read and learn from, Like, do you.
Speaker 5: Have any specific books.
Speaker 6: In mind that you would want to show us to
Speaker 6: educate us.
Speaker 2: I know I mentioned one book, The Miseducation of the
Speaker 2: Negro That's an excellent book.
Speaker 1: But my goal to.
Speaker 2: Book because mostly, like I said, most of the people
Speaker 2: I talk to look like me, all right, and most
Speaker 2: of the people that I'm.
Speaker 1: Advocating for look like me.
Speaker 2: Because of our disadvantages and into our trauma into.
Speaker 1: Generational So that book.
Speaker 2: Is called power Nomins, and it focuses on the blueprint
Speaker 2: for Black America to elevate by recycling the Black Dollar
Speaker 2: by doctors written by doctor Clark Edison.
Speaker 1: It's called Powernomics.
Speaker 2: And so that book is one of the books that
Speaker 2: I highly recommend because, like I said, of our issues
Speaker 2: and problems is economics, and we need to address that.
Speaker 2: And and I believe this.
Speaker 1: Too, is that.
Speaker 2: It's very important that we address ethics and morality. You know,
Speaker 2: even in business, they have a professional business code, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, So you got to have.
Speaker 2: Ethics and morality in business otherwise, you know, you you
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not advocating just going to just through
Speaker 2: any business because you can make money when it's destructive
Speaker 2: and devastations and in your community. God, I'm not advocate.
Speaker 2: We got enough of that already. We're trying to We're
Speaker 2: talking about businesses that can make an impact and a
Speaker 2: difference and your and and and the entrepreneur's life and
Speaker 2: in the community, you know, and then a litle businesses
Speaker 2: that can be developed like that. So the book para Nomics,
Speaker 2: The Economic Blueprint.
Speaker 1: For Black America by doctor card Anderson is one of
Speaker 1: my most.
Speaker 2: Famous books and just really means do for self and
Speaker 2: self consequences. You can take religion. That's the bottom line
Speaker 2: is to create a shock. Let me ask you something.
Speaker 2: If if who can answer this question, If a snake
Speaker 2: bite you, where you get down to go from? Say
Speaker 2: absolutely the snake. So let's after this a rate dom
Speaker 2: has destroyed you and poisoning.
Speaker 1: You and undermined you when you get to.
Speaker 2: Go from no answer, Well, guess I got to tell you.
Speaker 1: You get it from racism.
Speaker 2: So if you're taught your whole life you're black and
Speaker 2: you're ugly, you're not gonna do anything. I don't even know,
Speaker 2: they told malchaul met his teacher said, you don't want
Speaker 2: you want to be I want to be a lawyer.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you want to be a lawyer,
Speaker 2: because ain't nobody gonna utilize you.
Speaker 1: As a lawyer, not even your own people.
Speaker 2: If you grow up and all you was thrown was
Speaker 2: hate and racism, and you hate yourself, you hate being black,
Speaker 2: and you bleaching your skin like so many people. You're
Speaker 2: changing your nose, you're bleaching your hair, you're you're you're
Speaker 2: doing things to yourself so that you can look Europeion
Speaker 2: and white because you don't really like Because I know,
Speaker 2: when I was growing up, I told my mama, Man,
Speaker 2: when I grow I'm a married white woman. I said that.
Speaker 1: My mama always to say, you know, when you was.
Speaker 2: Young, used to say that I wasn't even looking at
Speaker 2: my own black women, in my own culture, in my
Speaker 2: own society, and my own people that's around.
Speaker 1: Me all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I ain't.
Speaker 1: I'm not against in a racial marriage is hell. You
Speaker 1: get Hey, you love what you love, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But but you already know that the majority is gonna
Speaker 2: marry within their own.
Speaker 1: Coach because that's who you're around.
Speaker 2: You fall in love with with the.
Speaker 1: Things that around you.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I didn't see black women is pretty. That's the
Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make. I saw a white woman
Speaker 2: as privy. So my thing is where you're gonna get
Speaker 2: dying and those from. If you suffer from racism, you
Speaker 2: get it from racism. You gotta flip it because you
Speaker 2: gotta switch to mind. It's just nowhere around it. You
Speaker 2: want to have to create a philosophy and a doctrine
Speaker 2: that will flip your self hatred to love.
Speaker 1: You gotta be proberate. I'm glad and I'm proud.
Speaker 2: See the difference you start making songs, when you start saying.
Speaker 1: You start doing things like d.
Speaker 2: You say, you start doing things that can teach you
Speaker 2: to start to love yourself and not hate yourself to
Speaker 2: don't by answer your question about the books, thank you
Speaker 2: you wilcome.
Speaker 6: Do you think multiculturalism has spelled in the US?
Speaker 1: Yes, because and the reason.
Speaker 2: Why a multiculturalism and all these things fail is because
Speaker 2: at the heart you have to love yourself for it
Speaker 2: to be sustainable not temporary. You cannot solve this problem
Speaker 2: with a bad name in history will always repeat itself
Speaker 2: until you get it right. And that's why it's circled
Speaker 2: back and it's called dee I today because of the
Speaker 2: fact that the ultimate aim is got to love yourself
Speaker 2: and do for self, and that's the overall. You gotta
Speaker 2: take yourself away from becoming a burden on society.
Speaker 1: There's not is not intended for the government.
Speaker 2: It is not intended for the government. Two to provide
Speaker 2: everything for you is in the government give you a start,
Speaker 2: but for your whole life.
Speaker 1: That's you know, there's something.
Speaker 2: Wrong with this you you know, so we we have
Speaker 2: to find a way to make this sustainable long term.
Speaker 2: And I don't think you know, most of these programs
Speaker 2: in there there for temporary gratification, but they have purpose
Speaker 2: and meaning and it's the level of the plan field.
Speaker 2: And I'm saying we need those things, but we gotta
Speaker 2: go deeper. We gotta go with multiculture. Lived I can
Speaker 2: work if we go deeper and big in our mission
Speaker 2: to do what it is that need to be done.
Speaker 2: And the work is hard, and the work ain't gonna
Speaker 2: help them. I mean, a lot of people ain't gonna
Speaker 2: like It's just a lot of people around this nation.
Speaker 1: They don't like, you know, black people being successful. They
Speaker 1: just don't.
Speaker 2: And this is twenty twenty four and unfortunately it's people
Speaker 2: who fill with with hate and I can't help them.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to say, we we gotta the only
Speaker 2: way that this nation can be. Like I said, my
Speaker 2: podcast is is Elie Bookshop bringing the world together with books,
Speaker 2: culture and.
Speaker 1: Community bringing together. I'm using books you're trying to bring
Speaker 1: up the only way you know.
Speaker 2: You ever look at. You gotta have your identity in
Speaker 2: this whole process, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can't lose your idea.
Speaker 2: The only way Multiculture List DII will work is that
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 1: Lose your identity.
Speaker 2: You gotta have a black agenda, and white people have
Speaker 2: to have their agenda. His fanings have to have, Asians
Speaker 2: have to have there. It's important because you cannot lose
Speaker 2: who you are. Every we're going to be who we are.
Speaker 2: I can't change the fact that I'm black.
Speaker 1: You can't change the fact that you're white or Asian.
Speaker 1: Why are we trying to create a system where will
Speaker 1: you deny where you are?
Speaker 2: We want to deny it, Jen, do we want to
Speaker 2: any our race?
Speaker 1: We want to deny you.
Speaker 2: We define fantasy. It ain't gonna happen. And all that's
Speaker 2: gonna do is create more division and more fighting. Unnecessary.
Speaker 1: You got to.
Speaker 2: Beat who you was born to beat, and and and
Speaker 2: and and treat others like you want to be treated.
Speaker 2: Because the golden rule, that's the number one golden rule,
Speaker 2: is that we have to teach others as the way
Speaker 2: we want to be treated.
Speaker 1: So if you want love, you need to give love.
Speaker 2: If you want success, you need to give success. It's
Speaker 2: just that that's the universal common And you treat people bad,
Speaker 2: it's gonna come back to you. So you know, multiculture,
Speaker 2: we got to go, deeperent. You can't lose your identity
Speaker 2: because a lot of this they want you to lose
Speaker 2: who you are.
Speaker 1: You can't lose who you are. You can't lose if
Speaker 1: you're a woman. You a woman, you a man, You're
Speaker 1: a man.
Speaker 2: You can't lose that. That's what you are. You can't
Speaker 2: lose who you are as a ring. Love who you are,
Speaker 2: be happy who you are.
Speaker 1: That's that's the only way I see multiculturing.
Speaker 2: And d I work. Love who you are, to respect
Speaker 2: and know who you are, so that that's why I
Speaker 2: see it. Well, my close Rod, I hope I said
Speaker 2: something to inspire you to think outside the box to
Speaker 2: help you along your journey as you become the next
Speaker 2: generation of change. Yeah. I appreciate you giving me this
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Speaker 6: I'm very inspired. I mean, you see a lot of
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Speaker 2: I feel like I should also invite you when we
Speaker 2: have like a normal semester and actually invite you physically
Speaker 2: so that we can you know.
Speaker 6: Basically, the power of face to face conversation, as you know,
Speaker 6: is more powerful.
Speaker 2: But I'm very grateful that you took time and we
Speaker 2: did very short notice. I really come to talk to
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Speaker 6: I'll say integrating in the time to be with us.
Speaker 2: This is a really great conversation. Are you looking for
Speaker 2: any help in your in your business.
Speaker 1: And just time no value?
Speaker 2: I definitely you can email me. You can email from
Speaker 2: the teacher and uh and send me your resume and
Speaker 2: we keep it on final and we get to that
Speaker 2: point out and sometimes we need volunteers as well. We
Speaker 2: can reach out even from that capacity. All right, all right,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: Our upcoming June events is explosive. You don't want to
Speaker 3: miss these. What events there's going to be hosted at
Speaker 3: Milieue Books and outside offside events. Listen, we're hosting but
Speaker 3: Car Sellers. You know, he's an attorney and author.
Speaker 1: He wrote a book called The Moment.
Speaker 3: He's going to be at Malik Books June eleventh at
Speaker 3: seven pm.
Speaker 1: He's going to be talking about his book.
Speaker 3: And the moderator for this event is Arriva Martin. Now
Speaker 3: both of them are CNN commentators, analysts, attorneys that brought
Speaker 3: on frequently to talk about politics in worldly and community events.
Speaker 3: Now this conversation is gonna be explosive. She's got to
Speaker 3: come through June eleventh at wlie Brooks Westfield Cover City Mall.
Speaker 3: Then on June fourteenth, we're hosting Nicole and A Jones
Speaker 3: in conversation with Angela Riot. This is gonna take place
Speaker 3: at the Miracle Theater June fourteenth at seven pm. This
Speaker 3: Friday night is gonna be an explosive conversation centered around
Speaker 3: sixteen nineteen project. This is going to be epic and
Speaker 3: Angela Ryt, who's a CNN correspondent, a podcaster, she has
Speaker 3: done a tremendous amount of achievements and she's gonna be
Speaker 3: in conversation with Nicole Hannah Jones, who's a Police Surprise
Speaker 3: winner for her timely book sixteen nineteen project. So you
Speaker 3: gotta come through Friday, and then let's turn it up
Speaker 3: even more when Taraji p Henson is gonna be at
Speaker 3: Malik Books on June twenty second at three pm at
Speaker 3: the Westfield Covid City Mall. She's gonna do a storytime
Speaker 3: and book signing. Her new book is coming out, You
Speaker 3: Can Be a.
Speaker 1: Good Friend No Matter.
Speaker 3: What A Chosen's book by Taraji p Henson Storytime at
Speaker 3: Westfield Coch City Mall. Got to come on out because
Speaker 3: we also hosting on June twenty second, our June Deep
Speaker 3: Celebration at the Westfield Coch City Mall. We're gonna have drummers,
Speaker 3: We're gonna have kid friendly things. We're gonna have a
Speaker 3: panelist featured with some very interesting community leaders who are
Speaker 3: gonna be talking about Resilience and June teenh so come
Speaker 3: on out Une twenty second, from one to five, we
Speaker 3: got a festive event at Westfield Culver City Mall. We
Speaker 3: love to do these kind of partnerships and bring these
Speaker 3: kind of programs.
Speaker 1: But our headliner for that.
Speaker 3: Particular event is Tarachie p Henson, who's gonna be doing
Speaker 3: story time and doing a book signing.
Speaker 1: So you want to come out to the Westfield Clover
Speaker 1: City Mall because Elite Books, in.
Speaker 3: Partnership with the Westfield Mall, is hosting a big time
Speaker 3: June team festival. But I'm gonna warm you up before
Speaker 3: the twenty second.
Speaker 4: You gotta come through June eighteenth at Malite Books where
Speaker 4: we're gonna be talking about Voices of Resilience, descendants of
Speaker 4: the Tousa Mosica in conversation with Victor Lukison.
Speaker 3: That's gonna take place on June eighteen at seven pm.
Speaker 3: We're gonna warm you up before we get to June
Speaker 3: twenty second.
Speaker 1: But we got an intense conversation.
Speaker 3: With Victor Lukison because he wrote this wonderful, wonderful book
Speaker 3: bating the history of Tulsa's Greenwood District.
Speaker 1: The book is called Built from the Fire.
Speaker 3: It's a multi generational soccer of a community in Tulsa's
Speaker 3: Black Wall Street that highlight survivors of the nineteen twenty
Speaker 3: one Tulsa massacre that murdered hundreds, if not thousands of
Speaker 3: black people. We in this conversation are inviting two descendants
Speaker 3: from this massacre. They are descendants from a black woman
Speaker 3: who owned a movie theater in nineteen twenty one in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: And they're gonna be at this conversation with Vicker Lucklson,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna be talking about Built from the Fire.
Speaker 3: And also just added just a few days ago, Tiffany
Speaker 3: Hattish will.
Speaker 1: Be at Malik Books June twenty ninth.
Speaker 3: This is meet and greet books signing with Tiffany Hattish signing.
Speaker 1: Her new book I Cursed You with Joy.
Speaker 3: So come on out June twenty nine, two pm. That's right,
Speaker 3: they get a signed book by Tiffany Hattish I Curse
Speaker 3: You with Joy.
Speaker 1: So that's our lineup for June.
Speaker 3: Probably have some more gonna be scheduled, but I think
Speaker 3: if you go to meliebooks dot com go on the event,
Speaker 3: you can keep up with all our latest events. That's
Speaker 3: all for now, So and Joy, Thanks for listening to
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