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Speaker 1: Where's the bravery in that? And why hasn't the NCAA

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Speaker 1: Where are the men the coaches? Who is taking precedent

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Speaker 1: Thank you for doing what you're doing well. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that you do. Truly, it's just inspiring. So thank you

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Speaker 1: those Riley Gains speaking out on some of this transgender

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Speaker 1: I appreciate her coming on the show. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank my producer, John Cassio for putting the show together.

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