1 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by called Light to Health. 2 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: All right back together again, Chris Brown's Steve Tasker with 3 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: you here on a Thursday on One Bill's Live, and boy, 4 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear about the interesting adventures of 5 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: one Steve Tasker. He and I have not said a 6 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: word to each other about what happened down in South 7 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Florida as Steve was on a hunt for an invasive species, 8 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: pythons that are not native to Florida. Steve was on 9 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: a hunt to let's just say, corral some of these 10 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: reptiles and get them out of the wild where they're 11 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: doing some damage to the environment. Steve, what can you 12 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: tell us? How did it play out? Not much. We've 13 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: been planning it for weeks. Right, So it is an 14 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: invasive speed it's the Burmese python that got released into 15 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Florida because there must have been a trend back in 16 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: whenever eighties nineties, two thousands of people getting Burmese pythons 17 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: as get as pets, and they get too big and 18 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: they turn them loose into the everyglades. Say hey, perfect, 19 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: I'll just turn them loose into the wild. It's great. Well, 20 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: then they start breeding and now they're they you can't 21 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: get rid of them, right. So the state has allowed 22 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: people to go out and harvest these things, right, and 23 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: it's amazing because it's a snake. Nobody care, I mean 24 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: you're not Peta doesn't care. I mean like there's nobody 25 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: with any sympathy for these snakes. Have at it, have 26 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: at it. Right. So weeks ago my son said, hey, 27 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I want to do this, and I said, yeah, I'm in. 28 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 1: So for weeks we've been planning to go on this 29 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: python hunt. And there's a big wind, you know, all 30 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: our families like what might you know, Like my mom 31 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: is going like you're crazy, going, no way i'd touch 32 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: a snake, right, And because they're why don't you think it? Right? 33 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: So you go on YouTube and all these these other 34 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: we got a guide and everything, right, we're gonna go 35 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: out and that they do this all the time, constant 36 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: a lot, every all the time. And so there's all 37 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: kinds of videos out there where you know, you got 38 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: these like twelve foot snakes. These guys are pulling in right. 39 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: So it's it's not like you know, going fishing for minnows, right, 40 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: I mean you're just this is kind of like you 41 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: got to like handle this thing, right, So we go 42 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: out and we're gonna go and we knew from the 43 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: very beginning to to her credit, the guy that we 44 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: used said, this is gonna be a very difficult time 45 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: of year because it's not winter and it's not yet summer. 46 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: So in the winter, they come out in the day 47 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: and they they go they hide out at night. It's 48 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: a it's day hunting. But then in the summer months, 49 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: when it's smoking hot during the day, they lay low 50 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: during the day and then they come out at night. 51 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: So she kept her ear to the ground over the 52 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: last few weeks as to what it would be best, 53 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: and we decided it's gonna be a night hunt, right, 54 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go out at night. Oh boy, right 55 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: on your forehead picture, Steve, he's got the lamp, right, 56 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Giant snakes at night. So so I'm thinking, what are 57 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: we gonna get into it, and what kind of you know, 58 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: what's this guy gonna be. It's it's you know, it's 59 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: a couple. It's a man and woman. They're together and 60 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: they're you know, that's their things, their business, right, and 61 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: they do it. I asked the guy. He goes, we're 62 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: out at least twice a week. We're sometimes four times 63 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: a week. We're out doing this. So they pull up 64 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: and they got this truck that's got it's a pickup, 65 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: big king cab picking some very nice right you could, 66 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: as you'd imagine, And it's got a platform across the 67 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: back of the cab where you stand up above the 68 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: cab with these big floodlights. Right, I mean lights up 69 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: the whole swamp. Right. But at night you and thankfully 70 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: you don't go to someplace and start trapesing through the 71 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: wilderness right in night in Florida, you drive down these 72 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't right, neither would I. Despite you know this, 73 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: you know this guided trip run. So you drive down 74 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: these very and I mean very rural roads and you're 75 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: going really slow. Can You're stand in the back of 76 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: this pickup. There's a railing and stuff. It's it's safe 77 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: enough because you're not going fast and you're driving down 78 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: this road and pitch black and I mean in the Everglades, Dude, 79 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: when they say it's night, it is dark night. I 80 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: mean there is no light, snow street like nothing. Right, 81 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: So we're trapes in to you and we got this 82 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: big big lights, you know, like, so we're trapes and 83 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: really slowed down this road. And I'll say this, this 84 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: is the funny part about it. We did not see 85 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: a single snake, not a one. Four and a half, 86 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: four and a half hours were out there, and you know, 87 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: you kind of got a little bit of adrenaline thing 88 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: because if one of them pops up, you gotta like, 89 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, the way we were, she was giving us 90 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: all the rundown where we were talking, and she had 91 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: story after a story about how you do it, what 92 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: you do it, how it's gonna happen. So you got 93 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: this little bit of you know, adrenaline that is kind 94 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: of like, I gotta be ready to jump out of 95 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: the back of this pickup on top of a you know, 96 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: possibly a fifteen foot snake or at least a second. 97 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I gotta stop you there. So 98 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: let me get this straight. The plan upon sight of 99 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: a snake is to leap out of the truck and 100 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: tackle said snake, grab it as quickly as you can 101 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: by its head, and then what do you do? You 102 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: just snap its neck or something like. These things are big? 103 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: What are you You're just gonna jump on one and 104 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: it's not gonna coil up around you and squeeze the 105 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: life out of you. First, Well, we jump on it. 106 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's not me. I mean you know, it's 107 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: like we gang up on it. There ain't no question. 108 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: I ain't ain't doing it by man. But yeah, that's 109 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: basically it. You're nobody even we don't even have gloves on, Brownie. 110 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna jump. So yeah, and that's that's 111 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: the way it's done. Because they move, you know, they 112 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: start to get away you. And the thing about it 113 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: is you are it is illegal and to have a 114 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: one of these Burmese pythons, it's illegally have one live, 115 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: all right, So it's not a dead or a live situation. 116 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: Bring them home dead, its say, exactly right. And they 117 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: have a little like uh like it's the same kind 118 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: of gun they use in the meatpacking industry, a little 119 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: bolt gun. It's not a it doesn't have a projectile. 120 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: It just expires it. And you know, right then, and 121 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: you were allowed, you're not allowed to transport them live 122 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: like show them like take them home and show them 123 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: to people before then you gotta do it. You can't 124 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: have them. They want them D E A D. So 125 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: you know what are you gonna do? We didn't. That 126 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: wasn't our problem. We didn't have We didn't even see one. 127 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, we're trapes and we're rolling through this, 128 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, on a road, no question, so a solid 129 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: ground where we're at. But on both sides it's either 130 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: swamper or a canal. And let me just say this, 131 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: gators are everywhere and it's night. So I'm like, I 132 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: don't even want to step on the gravel road, right, 133 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's right, which begs the question if you 134 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: did find a snake and two or three a jump 135 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: out and you know, pile on top of this thing, 136 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: Who's to say a GATORA ain't hanging out and going, Hey, 137 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: this looks like I got pretty good odds here. I 138 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: got three humans and a giant snake. I'm gonna have 139 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: a meal somewhere. Nothing nothing, there's nothing that says that 140 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: can't happen. To my knowledge. Was that in the was 141 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: that in the liability waiver anywhere would you side your 142 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: life there was there was a waiver to be signed? Yes, 143 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: oh I bet there was, right? So um yeah, but 144 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: you know so that that all happened and it was beauty. 145 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Its beautiful night. But man, oh man, it's it's dark 146 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: in the swamp and we've you know, thank goodness, the 147 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: lights didn't go out, but it was it was so 148 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're down in the south, we're you know, 149 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: we're in the Everglades right or somewhere down in there, 150 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: and it's seventy six degrees night and humidity had to 151 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: be whatever. And it's so humid at seventy six degrees 152 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: it was cold. I mean we had I like put 153 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: jackets on. It was. It was unbelievable. Wow, it was unbelievable. 154 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: It was so humid and hot that we were driving 155 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: and the breeze coming over you felt chilly. We got chili. 156 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you what Brownie that you know, it 157 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: wasn't free to do this either, right, I was pretty 158 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: pricey to get this. Well, that's what I was gonna 159 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: say again, because I wonder how much of this operation 160 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Shelly say that this couple is running is on the 161 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: level I mean, how realistic is it is you can 162 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: get a snake when it's not summer or as you said, winter, 163 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: that's my well, that's my skeptics question. Yeah, you can, 164 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: you can do And like I said, it's the state 165 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: opens it up. You can do it if you want. 166 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: Anybody can go out You can go out there and 167 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: your little up, you know, in your little Fiat and 168 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: you know troll, you know, drive around looking for him. 169 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: But you know, they've got a lot of people that 170 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: are that. There were some that were hired by the 171 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: state to do this as as python hunters, and you know, 172 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: so and so they you know, and so some of 173 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: them were doing that that like our guide was doing that. 174 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: And then she said, listen, it's not it wasn't lucrat 175 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: The state didn't pay enough. It wasn't Lucrata enough. She 176 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: started doing it on the side like privately. So once 177 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: she you know, knew the ropes and knew how to 178 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: do it and stuff, and that it's a you know, 179 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: obviously a subculture. There's a lot of Python hunters down 180 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: there and they keep in touch and they they share 181 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: secrets and spots and all that. It was there a 182 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: reality series just there probably should be. There's plenty of 183 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: it because we went on, you know, trying to get 184 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: prepared for this. What are we looking at here? What 185 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: am I getting into? So you get online and look 186 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: at the videos and it's like, you know, there's Joe 187 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: her record. She pulled out a seventeen footer with one 188 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: of the groups she took out. They pulled a seventeen 189 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: foot snake out of there, and then she's got twelve 190 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: She had a twelve foot and eight footer, just like 191 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: last week. She was telling the story. And you know, 192 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: it's so they're they're there are big snakes. So so 193 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: if they do catch them, they have to bring the yeah, 194 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: the snake back, right, Yeah, they pull it out of there, 195 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: the yeah, they bring it back and and either you know, 196 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, you know how it is snakeskin wallets and 197 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: boots or whatever you want. But all that. But she said, 198 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: because it's um because of the way. I can't remember 199 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: why she said, they don't do it too much. But 200 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: there was nobody that worked those types of hides in 201 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: as a craft anymore because in it became illegal to 202 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: have them or whatever. I can't remember exactly how it was, 203 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: but there was a lack of craftsmen to actually put 204 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: the hides to good use. So that's only just now 205 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: starting to become a thing again. Okay, And I would 206 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: imagine they would sir say it again. I guess they 207 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: would harvest the meat, right, and that's it. They say 208 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: they don't want any organizations. They do not want an 209 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: eat Burmese pythons out of the Galades. Oh, they do 210 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: not recommend that. So okay, because snakes all it's all 211 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: muscle like, right, Yeah, the whole thing a little bit 212 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: like a fish, right, I mean I don't know, Yeah, 213 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, Like in one sense, you know, 214 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: we kind of had to build up for this. It 215 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: was my son and his friend and then me. There's 216 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: three of us and then the two guides, and you 217 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: kind of build up for this, you can, but so 218 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: it was we were incredibly disappointed that we didn't even 219 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: see one, let alone let one get away or you know, 220 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: or and you know, thankfully didn't get bit or anything. 221 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: But for the build up and the angst, you know, 222 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: you can imagine you gotta like get ready, right, I 223 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: mean we were like mental, we were we were picking. 224 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: You know, you go to you're driving out there, any 225 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: knowing what am I gonna do? If they're one, you know, 226 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: laying across the middle of this road and it's like 227 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: twelve feet long? You know, what am I gonna do? 228 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: And you kind of gotta get yourself mentally ready for that, 229 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: and then to have it not happened was a little 230 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: bit disappointing. I will say that. I can say it now. 231 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: Although I might be thankful if it ever happened and 232 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: I realized what I was actually getting into, maybe I'll 233 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: be thankful that we didn't get one. But for then, 234 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, for the night that we were out there, 235 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: it's like, man, we were all ready for let's go, 236 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: and then it never happened. Yeah, I'd probably be telling 237 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: the driver, hey, pinned down the head with the tire 238 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: right right over the speed up, look at the rest, 239 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: speed up, and hit it and then back over it 240 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: and then let me see how it looks. So there. Yeah, 241 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: So that was that was the big snake hunt, the 242 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: python hunt. And I can tell you right now because 243 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: we were we had the experience we did. We go down, 244 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: we have family down there, and my son and his 245 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: wife go down a lot. You could bet we're gonna 246 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: do it again. Oh boy, you know, we're just gonna 247 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: be out there again, probably without a guy this time 248 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: because she's They were very encouraging, like you can do this, 249 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: you can just come out, but you know, you gotta 250 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: be ready. Yeah, do it during the day, right, I 251 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: mean so yeah, I'm not going in there at night 252 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: by myself. You make one wrong turn, you're in the swamp, 253 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: then your beach. That's what you're doing now, you are 254 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: exactly right. And there's and like I said, there was 255 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: we stopped counting gators. Oh why don't you stopped counting 256 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: at what thirty? No? No, no, we just we drive 257 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: by and you just see eyes, you know, And then 258 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: we saw we saw like one six foot or that 259 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: was out on you know, across the side road and 260 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: he saw us and by into the water. Yeah. Yeah, 261 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, so if there's you know, gators, Yeah, those 262 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: are real rights as right as of right now. Burmese 263 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: pythons are a myth right now. So because we haven't 264 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: seen one of the big yeah like big foot. Right, 265 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: So that's that's great. I love it. Well I'm sorry 266 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: I didn't catch one, but it sounded like the adrenaline 267 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: was still pumping anyway. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Yeah. So 268 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: we are out there for four and a half hours 269 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: until you know, well passed midnight and it was just 270 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an old guy. I can't do late 271 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: nights like that, so I'm kind of still feeling it 272 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: even though it was like it was like Monday we 273 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: were out there. Yeah. Now people are tweeting us anaconda 274 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: is from Brazil, saying this should be the next Tasker 275 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: family hunt. Yeah, they got an anaconda here. Uh, thing's 276 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: got to be about fifty sixty feet long. I've seen it. 277 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: I saw that and I said, as just what we're hunting. 278 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: I sent that exact gift to my son, going here 279 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: we go, let's go. Yeah, this anaconda and anaconda is 280 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: like fifty feet long in that Twitter feat. Yeah, oh 281 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: my gosh. And it's it's middle is about as big 282 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: as your torso, oh it's huge. It's about it's about 283 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: the same. It literally looks fifty feet long in this picture. 284 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: It's it's so heavy it can hardly crawl because anacondas 285 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: are actually more water snakes than they are land snakes. 286 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: That they probably have to be so they can get around. 287 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: It's literally the word one we're looking as got to 288 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: be literally thirty thirty plus feet long. Oh all right, 289 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: yeah that is nuts. Well I'm glad you had fun. Um, yeah, 290 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: I was more, it would have been more. Yeah, I 291 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: had more. I had more a success playing golf down 292 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: there than I did Python Hunt well there. Yeah, yeah. Uh. 293 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: Let's catch everybody up to speed on what's been going down. 294 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Probably the latest Bills news is there are reports out 295 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: there that Jordan Phillips is on his way back to 296 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: the Bills on a one year contract, which conceivably would 297 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: shore up the top four at the position for the 298 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: upcoming season. Team hasn't confirmed it yet, but that would 299 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: put him back in with the other three that they 300 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: had a defensive tackle last year to run it back, 301 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: so to speak, at the position barring any other changes. 302 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: All of them, though, are on expiring contracts. If in 303 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: fact it is a one year deal for Jordan Phillips, 304 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: who I think, unfortunately you suffered two major injuries and 305 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: really didn't provide the impact that I think we all 306 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: hope that he would, because I mean, that's a guy. 307 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: The last time he was in a Bills uniform before 308 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: last season, had a nine and a half sack campaign, 309 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: and I think at his best he can still be that, 310 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: especially with von Millerbeck in the fold, I agree. So 311 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: he was really playing at a high level, and in 312 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving game he dislocated or I think with you, 313 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: and I think he dislocated his shoulder and he played 314 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: one arm the entire rest of the season and lost 315 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: him as his effectiveness. But man, oh man, he he 316 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: is a different I think he's a difference maker up front. Yeah, 317 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: he actually got hurt in the first Patriots game. Remember 318 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: he was chasing after mac Jones on that long extended 319 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: play and then he tried to dive at him, and 320 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: I thought that was that was a Detroit game. He 321 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: was chasing goff. No, No, he was. He was hot 322 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: in pursuit of mac Jones on a ridiculously extended play 323 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: and he tried to dive at him and swipe his 324 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: arm at his feet to try to just trip him. Oh, 325 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: I would that he missed mac Jones and he landed 326 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: on his right shoulder and then rolled over on his 327 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: back and instantly knew what he did, which was basically 328 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: tear his rotator cuff. So he's gonna come here on 329 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: the double back and try to swipe it his leg. 330 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: Our MSG viewers were saying, that's where he tore his 331 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: rotator cover, right, you know what? And you know what 332 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: else happened early in the season, Week two, in the 333 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: Titans game. Milano had the pick six and Jordan Phillips 334 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: was chasing him and went down like like he got 335 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: shot when he pulled his hand a sniper. Yeah, he 336 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: got he pulled his hand. He was seen a time. 337 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: He used to watch it on film all the time. 338 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Happened to guys where they're sprinting and going and they 339 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: just fall forward and just right down. He pulled a 340 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: hammy and so that that set him back as well. 341 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: So it's a rough year for him last year with 342 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: those two injuries. But man oh man, I he has 343 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: always played extremely well for the Bills. He had the 344 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: stint in Arizona where he did not have as much success, 345 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: but man oh man, for the Bills, he's played great. 346 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: Right and while you were out, it came down and 347 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: it's not official yet either, but safety Tailor rap here 348 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: on a one year deal. Save to me, and I 349 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: was mentioning this with Maddie when I was on with 350 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: her on Tuesday. To me, this is a coup of 351 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: assigning because this is a guy that is a proven 352 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: starter in the league, a former second round pick, and 353 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, obviously he experienced a lot of what Jordan 354 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Poyer experienced in the safety market with it being so 355 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: saturated with starting caliber talent that there just wasn't enough 356 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: money to go around to give everybody their proper value. 357 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: And that's why Jordan Poyer ultimately comes back to the Bills, 358 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: because they were eighteen starting free safeties in the free 359 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: agent market, and only the top of that, only the 360 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: top of that position group was going to get paid, 361 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: namely Jesse Bates, who's a twenty six year old Pro 362 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: Bowl player who got a four year, sixty four million 363 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: dollar deal from Atlanta. And after that, most guys got 364 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: probably what they feel was below their market value. And 365 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: here's Taylor Rap in the third week of free agency 366 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: looking for a job. And this is how Brandon Bean operates. 367 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: He'll sift through what's left in the market and he'll say, 368 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: love to have this guy. And I think we can 369 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: all speculate as to what the future holds, because Taylor 370 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: Rap could be here for a year and then may 371 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: want to go in the market and maximize how much 372 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: money he can make, and maybe it just goes to 373 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: the highest bidder. But if things go well here and 374 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, Micah Hides in the last year of his contract, 375 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe Micah Hyde calls it a career after 376 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: this season, and if he's out of the mix, now 377 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: there's suddenly a spot and you've got a guy that's 378 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: been in the defense for a year already. Talk about 379 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: a transition, a transition from a thirty two year old 380 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber safety to a twenty seven year old 381 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: safety who's on the cusp of Pro Bowl status. I mean, yeah, 382 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: that could be a coup. Maybe we could be looking 383 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: back on this contract and this signing a year from 384 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: now and be like time to tip your hat to 385 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean once again, you know what I mean, Like 386 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: this is big, right, it could be and you'd like 387 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: to spin it that way, he might. And it might 388 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: be too that we get to the end of the 389 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: year next year and I think, wow, we need somebody, 390 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: and all of them are on expiring contracts and you 391 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: don't have anybody. I mean, we're gonna be there. You know, 392 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna be there because Taylor Rap's not gonna come 393 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: back and say I'm gonna you know, they're all gonna 394 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: see what the market is. There's not gonna be maybe 395 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: there's probably not gonna be eighteen starting safeties on the 396 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: market next year. Right, trap is a rap has got 397 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: to be also thinking, you know Jordan and Mica, neither 398 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: one of them could stay healthy last year, Mica in particular, 399 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: and Jordan gut it out an entire season, lost five games. Anyway, 400 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: might be that this might be my spot to jump 401 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: on the field and get on on a really good 402 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: defense with a head coach calling signals and have a 403 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: chance to really shine. It's a good opportunity, I think 404 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: for him because of the age of the two guys 405 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: that are going to be starting. He's twenty five years old. 406 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: That's a that's a great spots. Yeah he's a four 407 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: year starter. Yeah, Yeah, he's a great that's a great sign. 408 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing we speculated about. And tell me 409 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: what you think about this. We know McDermott's taking over 410 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: the play calling duties this season, and as it is 411 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: every year, there are some tweaks to defensive systems, no 412 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: matter how successful they are. With a player the caliber 413 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: of Taylor Rapped, I don't know how you justify keeping 414 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: him off the field, which then begs the question, do 415 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: you have some packages where you go to a three 416 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: safety look? Because McDermott has done that in the past, 417 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: he did it his last couple of years at times 418 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: in Carolina when he had three pretty good safeties. I 419 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: think it's at least possible that you could see that, 420 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: if not on a regular basis for ten or fifteen snaps, 421 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: maybe with a given opponent. If you know what I'm 422 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: getting at, who comes off the field, it's a good question. Um, 423 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: it's probably a linebacker that we don't know who it 424 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: is yet. Leave Milano on the field, put the safety 425 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: and we haven't walk him down into the box with 426 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: him and tarn Johnson. Yeah, yeah, I could see that maybe, 427 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: or in a long yard team puts ten personnel on 428 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: the field, right right, If there's a team that's gonna 429 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: go four wide for most of the day, that's not 430 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: bad to turn to either. Do you think we're gonna 431 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: see And this is I don't want to get off 432 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: the subject here because we're gonna start to go down 433 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: a rabbit hole. But you know it could be too. 434 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: With Sean McDermott as head coach, maybe they do have 435 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: different personnel packages on defense for the first time, I 436 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: mean significantly, you know, because they they they're ninety percent 437 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: of the time they're nickel. You can't get them out 438 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: of that. Unless it's shortyard is your goal line, they're 439 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: always in nickel defense. So maybe that will change a 440 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: little bit. With Sean McDermott calling the defensive signals and 441 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: putting the game plan together, maybe they do a little 442 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: more of that. It's possible. I think it's at least 443 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: possible because McDermott and his defense is his whole coaching staff. 444 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: They say this all the time. We just want to 445 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: get the best eleven players on the field. Right I 446 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: think it'd be hard pressed to say Rap isn't one 447 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: of your eleven best defenders right now. Yeah, that's subject 448 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: to change based on what they acquire in the draft, 449 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: but I think there's a pretty good chance he's still 450 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: going to be one of your top eleven guys. Yeah, 451 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: here's the thing, and here's what we haven't talked too 452 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: much about it. You get your best eleven on the field. Okay, 453 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: that's great. And I don't know what the significant drop 454 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: off is between the eleventh player and the and the 455 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: twelfth player, you know what I mean, I mean what 456 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: the difference is right there? But right to me, offensively, 457 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: teams are always talking about matchups and I don't know 458 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: why that doesn't apply to the defense. So if you 459 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, why don't you match your personnel? 460 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: And maybe you like what it does to the offensive 461 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: game plan. If they know they're going to get the 462 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: same personnel every time, no matter who they put on 463 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: the field, maybe that changes things in your favor and 464 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: the way you like. I get that. But for me, 465 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: if they come out in a certain personnel grouping, if 466 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: you've got a better physical matchup with a different personnel. 467 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen it for decades' that's what most 468 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: teams do. They match personnel. Yeah, they don't match defensive 469 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: play call with personnel, you know, right. I guess what 470 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying is they'll have a package I think in 471 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: place where if they believe, based on their opponent that 472 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: given week, if they expect they may get a look 473 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: from them that they feel is fitting for a three 474 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: safety look on defense, They're gonna have it at the ready. 475 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: I guess that's what I'm kind of saying. Yeah, I 476 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: mean how much that shows up up in a given 477 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: week remains to be seen, and it may not fit 478 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: at all most weeks. But I think we saw New 479 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: England very successfully use the three safety defense for most 480 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: of the year with Kyle Dugger and Adrian Phillips and mccordy. Yeah, 481 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be fascinating to watch the Bill's 482 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: defense deploy with Sean McDermott call on the plays because 483 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: you can say you got the best eleven guys on 484 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: the field now, and you say that, but by the 485 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: same token, we tend to make make light of the 486 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: rotation up front. There's eight guys that rotate through, so 487 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: it's never the same eleven guys on right. They just 488 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: never change the back end. It's always the same same 489 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: six guys on the back or the same seven guys 490 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: on the back end with tarn and the two corners 491 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: and the safeties along with the two linebackers. I mean, 492 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: so it's the same seven guys in the back end, 493 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: but it's maybe they always change up the front. Maybe 494 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: they do that a little more with the you know, 495 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: the linebackers and the corners and the safeties this year 496 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: to get some different matchups, because I think it's I 497 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: get it that they're the best eleven guys, but man, 498 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: oh man, I think you got some different physical matchups 499 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: you could take advantage of if you give guys other 500 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: guys a chance to maybe get a niche role in 501 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: your defense. So the win a certain down and distance 502 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: and a certain personnel grouping gets on the field, this 503 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: defender should be on the field as well and getting 504 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: taken advantage of that matchup. Maybe it doesn't happen that 505 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: often that you get in a down and distance with 506 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: a personnel package from the other team that you want 507 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: to take advantage of defensively. But I know what happens offensively, 508 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: and I don't know how how it could be that 509 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: much different on the other side of the coin. Yeah, 510 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm just knowing how fine coach McDermott cuts it and 511 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: how much he sweats the details. I just I really 512 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 1: think that's that's going to factor into the plans somewhere 513 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: at some point this season. How often is a big question, 514 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of variables come into play on that. 515 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: But topic of discussion today speaking of agent signings, Which 516 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: new free agent signing do you think will pay off 517 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: the most in the twenty twenty three season. You can 518 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: let us know at eight O three oh five fifty 519 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: that's the local number to get on board one eight 520 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. The toll free number, 521 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: as there is a big list to choose from, and 522 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: I should specify we are talking new players to the 523 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: roster as free agent signings, so you know we're not 524 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: talking about resigning Jordan Poyer or resigning Jordan Phillips, which 525 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: is reportedly going to happen. So which new free agent 526 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: signings players that are new to the roster do you 527 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: believe will pay off the most for the Bills in 528 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three season. Eight O three oh five 529 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty 530 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: the number to get it on board. Steve and I 531 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: will take a break here, but your phone calls are 532 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: coming our way the rest of the show. We are 533 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: wide open today for two hours, so feel free to 534 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: chime in at your discretion or hit us up on 535 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet at one Bills Live break. I'm here, 536 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: but we're back with your phone calls next on One 537 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Klid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 538 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, 539 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you here on a Thursdayay, and before 540 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: we get to phone calls, as we are asking you 541 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: today which new free agent signing we'll pay off the 542 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: most for the Bills in twenty twenty three, talking about 543 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: new players to the roster, not guys that re signed 544 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: in free agency. You let us know at eighth three 545 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five 546 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: fifty open line for you there, or you can hit 547 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: us up on the tweet sheet, Steve. We didn't get 548 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: a chance to go around the NFL. And the only 549 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: reason I wanted to do this, which incidentally is presented 550 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: by Kellida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, 551 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: is it is Florida's Pro day today, and obviously all 552 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: eyes were on the quarterback Anthony Richardson, who's apparently met 553 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: with the Panthers and the Raiders who hold the first 554 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: and I believe seventh pick in round one ahead of 555 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: the pro day. So yeah, that's all well and good. 556 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: Obviously a name that's of interest to Bills fans. Maybe 557 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: less so with the signing of two free agent guards, 558 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: Osiris Torrance, the starting guard or Florida. He was there 559 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: as well. The interesting note that came out of it was, 560 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: and I believe this was reported by NFL network, Steve, 561 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: that the Titans the Rams, the Falcons, and the Saints 562 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: have all met with Osiris Torrance between I don't know 563 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: the last day or so and the time that the 564 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: Pro Day took place, and maybe one of those teams 565 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: will meet him tonight. But what I find interesting, Steve, 566 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: is this, the Falcons have the eighth pick. There's no 567 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: way they're drafting Osiris Torrance there, So it's probably high 568 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: second round where they would pick him, because I believe 569 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: in round two they have the eighth pick as well. 570 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: So you're talking, let's see here, pick forty four, I 571 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: think is what they have. Yeah, they have forty four. 572 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. Okay, So they have picked forty 573 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: four in round two, the Titans have picked forty one, 574 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: the Rams have picked thirty six, and the Saints have 575 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: picked twenty nine in round one and then they pick 576 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: again at forty. So my thinking, Steve, is the grade 577 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: on Osiris Torrance is somewhere in the top half of 578 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: the second round, which would seemingly remove him as an 579 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: option for the Bills at twenty seven. If you've got 580 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: four different teams meeting with Osiris Torrance and they all 581 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: picked top half second round, to me, that would remove 582 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: him as an option of value for Buffalo unless they think, oh, 583 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: he is over the moon better than that, and I 584 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: would tend to doubt that to some degree. And it 585 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: would also depend on what the board looks like when 586 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: he comes up, when the twenty seven pick comes up, 587 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: and there's you know, they want to take a guy 588 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: at that position group, and he's either the best one 589 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: they've got or there is somebody else at another position 590 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: group that looks better. I don't have a problem taking 591 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: a guy who's projected at the top half of the 592 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: second in the first, particularly a guy who's gonna who's 593 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: got a chance to play start a right tackle for you, 594 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If he's gonna do, if 595 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: they've projected him as he could start form at right tackle, 596 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 1: get him on a five yeared rookie deal s instead 597 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: of a four year because when you get the extra year, 598 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: if he turns out great, and even if the worst 599 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: comes to worst, you can franchise him twice all that stuff, 600 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: but you get him at a second you get him 601 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: at a fifth year on a rookie deal. Then you 602 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: have him and Spencer Brown working on their rookie deals, 603 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: and you can you can work with it. Here's here's 604 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: the other thing to think about too, Steve, and I 605 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: don't have the numbers in front of me. I'm just 606 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: going on to past memory, which sometimes can be dangerous, 607 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: but in this case, I don't think it is. There 608 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: aren't a whole lot of guards that ever get drafted 609 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: in round one. It is mainly from an offensive line perspective, 610 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 1: around for offensive tackles and occasionally an all world center, right, 611 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, but even even the best center in the 612 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: draft a couple of years ago, Creed Humphrey, I think 613 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: he went either at the bottom around one or maybe 614 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: even round two. I'm trying to remember. He can't stood. Yeah, 615 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, but he went like thirtieth, right, you know 616 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: what I mean? And so I guess my my point is, yeah, 617 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: you could take a guard down there at the end 618 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: of round one more often than not. If there's oh 619 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about yeah, um from Notre Dame Nelson, Quentin 620 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: Nelson Nelson, Yeah he did, he went six. So yeah, 621 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: it does happen. There are all world guards. Oh those 622 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: guys can't miss. You gotta take him, and and they 623 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: do that. But to me, it just seems over the 624 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: years those are few and far between. Um. Eric Wood 625 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: is probably the last Bill's pick that was a guard 626 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: slash center. He was a center by trade in college, 627 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: started here at guard. Cody Ford was a second round pick, yes, 628 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: but he was also a guard tackle. Remember they thought 629 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: he might be able to play tackle, yes, at the pros, 630 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: and obviously that's that never happened. Right. Wyatt Teller was 631 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: a what a fifth seventh what was he? Wyatt Teller 632 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: was a fifth round, fifth round pick? I get you that. 633 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: So that kind of strengthens your point about you know, 634 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: guard's not really it's like trying. It's like picking a 635 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: running back in the first round kind of right, Um, 636 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: maybe you know there's just not a lot of first 637 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: round value historically for guards. The reason with that in mind, 638 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: I think if they pick an offensive lineman, it's probably 639 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: going to be a tackle that slides a little bit 640 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: or fits the value. Right. It's it's yes, because you'd 641 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: think that most times a guy you picked to play 642 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: tackle with that kind of ability can slide down play 643 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: guard without a problem. Because guard is there's a few 644 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: less space, it's an easier game to play. Really, what 645 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: you need is some weight to play guard. If you 646 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: can play tackle, and you're one of those heavy guys, 647 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: you can play guard. Now if you're a guy like 648 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: a tall, lanky guy like Spencer Brown, it's a little 649 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: more difficult, but it still can be done. If you're 650 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: if you can get down, you can get low and 651 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: get some pad level down to where take on a 652 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: defensive tackle that kind of thing, but it takes some leverage. 653 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: Guard is notoriously easier to play than tackle because of 654 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: the space factor. So that's why tackles are more coveted 655 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: than guards, because if you figure, if you got a tackle, 656 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: who at worst he can slide down play guard in 657 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: a pinch. It's harder for a guard to slide out 658 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: because they don't usually have the ability covers much space 659 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: with as much athleticism and be as strong on the 660 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: edge doing that as a tackle as a true tackle 661 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: would be. So I get what you're saying, and I 662 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: hadn't really thought about that. But if they think he 663 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: can play tackle, they don't have a problem taking a 664 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: guard slash tackle rather than taking a guard slash nothing right, 665 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: But everybody we've spoken with from all the way back 666 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: at the combine to now, when we ask him about 667 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: Osiris Torrance, the prevailing opinion is guard only. Yeah, and 668 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: because of that lack of position flex, I can't see 669 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: him being a first round option either. And now seeing 670 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: these four teams meeting with Osiris Torrance and all of 671 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: them picking within ten spots of each other in round two, 672 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a clear indication of where his draft 673 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: board value sits, and so I would cross him off 674 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: the list right now for pick twenty seven. I'm not 675 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,959 Speaker 1: you never say never, but I think it's moved into 676 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: the highly unlikely category that Osiris Tarrens is a consideration 677 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: for the Bills at twenty seven. Now, if they trade 678 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: back and they're somewhere in that territory between thirty six 679 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: and forty four, well then yeah, he's probably on the table. 680 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: But at twenty seven, it's not looking that way. It'd 681 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: be it would be a little bit of a yeah, 682 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: you'd be reaching a little bit about ten spots probably, right, 683 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: You're you're reaching probably about ten spots at the top 684 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: of the draft, which is a bigger reach for a guard. Right, 685 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: It's a bigger reach at the top of the draft 686 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: than ten spots at the bottom of the draft. After 687 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: everybody's had a chance to pick a couple of times. Yeah. Ten, Yeah, 688 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: that's like a full round, taking him a full round 689 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: ahead of where you thought he would go. But you know, Brownie, yes, 690 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: you're right. And on day, on draft day, you might 691 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: get crushed a little bit for taking a guy like 692 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: Osarus Torres, but if he turns into an all pro guard, 693 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna look why, it'd be like, wow, you're brilliant, right, 694 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: you know. So there's that as well. If you get 695 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: the guy and he turns into a great player, nobody 696 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: cares where he's drafted, unless you get him into like 697 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: the fifth round, fourth round, like a Stefan Diggs, right, 698 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: then you get credit for it. But if you know, 699 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: if the guy, you know what I mean, you're like, wow, 700 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: you're brilliant. But if it's a guy like that, you 701 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: take at a two like Wyatt Teller No, came out 702 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: of nowhere right and turns into a great player, and 703 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: you know you just stn't know. Nobody can tell, but 704 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: you get a lot of if he was you know, right, 705 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: if he was still a bill Bills be going, you know, wow, 706 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: they're brilliant. So going the other way, if the guy 707 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: can play, nobody's gonna say anything about it, whether you 708 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: pick him ten spots early or in the you know 709 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. But if he doesn't, then they start 710 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: to connect that with some other missus, which everybody's got missus, 711 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: and then you start to look bad as a as 712 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: an organization, right, I mean, it starts, it's efficient, it's 713 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: officially Yeah for me, it's officially moved into the unlikely territory. Yeah, 714 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: I get Cyrus Taurrence specially. I like that line of reasoning. 715 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense to me. Um, not 716 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: that I don't think it could might not happen unless 717 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: maybe like this like five like four quarterbacks, four tackle, 718 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If there's a run on 719 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: those guys, If like the draft board falls where a 720 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: lot of those guys are going, and he's starting to 721 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: be one of a very dwindling number of guys available 722 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: who were drafted, you know, who were thought to be 723 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: good pros, then maybe it's not such a reach because 724 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: you gotta get him while you can get him, but 725 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: that's unlikely as well. Yeah. Yeah, let's go to the 726 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: phones real quick and leading us off, there is Colleen 727 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. What do you got for us? Kylleen? 728 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: You're ill one Bill's lives him. I just wanted to say, um, 729 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: this is for my father. My father passed away last 730 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: Friday and he loves Steve and Chris watched every single day, winter, spring, summer, fall, 731 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: and he just passed away, and he was in hospice, 732 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: and even in hospice we had your show on. He 733 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: listened to you and he loved it. He just loved it. 734 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: And we knew don't call dad from one to three 735 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: because he was going to be watching Brownie and Steve's great. Colleen, 736 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: what was Colin? What was your father's name? You don't 737 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: mind saying, it's your Bill Beardsley. All right, Well, thank 738 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: you so much, and we're sorry about your loss, but 739 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: thank you for calling. What's on? What else? Is there 740 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: anything else? No, that's that's all, and thank you very much. 741 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: And he loved your show. Just wanted to say how 742 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: how great you were with him. It gave him entertainment 743 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: for the afternoon. So thank you very much. Colin. That's awesome. 744 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: Thank you sorry about once again, sorry about your loss. 745 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we could we could be there for 746 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: him whenever we were. That's awesome. Thank you for sharing that. 747 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you very much. Thanks all right, take care. Yeah, 748 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: our condolences to you. Of course you hate to hear those, 749 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it makes you feel good 750 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: that even if you can entertain somebody that you know, 751 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what his condition was, Steve, but if 752 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: you can entertain somebody while they're maybe sitting in a 753 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: in a bed where they don't want to be, take 754 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: them away from their environment, even for ten minutes or whatever. Yea. 755 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: You know, they can laugh at us because we're messing 756 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: something up or just being talking about snake hunts or 757 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 1: whatever the heck we're doing, right, I'll take it. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, 758 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: that's good. That's nice. And I'm you know what, It's 759 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: not just me and Brownie either. There's a bunch of 760 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: guys back in the control room that like getting that 761 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: kind of feedback as well. So thanks Colleen and appreciate you. Yeah, 762 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: we will take a break on that note. When we 763 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna be on a much lighter note 764 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: because we're going to be talking about genetically grown food. 765 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: This is insane and you've got to hear about it, Steve, 766 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: and I will tell you about it next here on 767 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: one Bills Live, presented by collid to Health. It's buffalos 768 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: rare Field. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. 769 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we we kind 770 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: of teased this before we went to break. I think, 771 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: just when you think you've seen it all, Steve, the 772 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: scientists in the lab begin to amaze yet again, and 773 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: they've done it in Australia, accompanyed by the name of 774 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: Vow Vow on Tuesday, unveiled a meat ball made for 775 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: lab grown cultured meat using the genetic sequence from the 776 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: long extinct wooly mammoth. Cultivated meat, also called cultured or 777 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: cell based meat, is made from animal cells, and the 778 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: reason they're pushing this forward, I guess is because livestock 779 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be killed to produce it, so they 780 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: say that's better not just for animals obviously, but for 781 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: the environment. I guess. They used available genetic information from 782 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: the mammoth and then filled in the missing parts of 783 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: the genetic data from its closest living relative, which is 784 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: the African elephant. They put it into a sheep cell 785 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: and grew it to the point where they could roll 786 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: up the tissue into a meat ball. Which they put 787 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 1: on display in Amsterdam. I don't know why they had 788 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: to fly it there. Could you imagine these people fly 789 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: in a wooly mammoth meatball in the cooler. Yeah, all 790 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: that stuff about the cell growth and peter, it doesn't 791 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: really sound out appetizing. Yeah it doesn't. And I gotta 792 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: tell you the most hilarious part of this, and I 793 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: know our MSG viewers are getting a look at this 794 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: meatball which was put on display with a fork and 795 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: a knife, almost humorously. There's actual seasoning on top of 796 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: the meatball. My favorite part of the whole story, Steve, 797 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: is that the mammoth meatball apparently is a one off, 798 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: thank god, and has not been tasted even by its creators, 799 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: nor is it planned to put be put into commercial production. 800 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: It was presented as a source of protein that would 801 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: get people talking about the future of meat. So using 802 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: our past to discuss the future of meat, Steve, how 803 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: amazed are you? Pretty amazed? Amazed might be a little 804 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: bit of an accurate disappetized. I guess there's word like disappetized. 805 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: I think grossed out could work. Um, yeah, not, that's 806 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: not for me. There's only one country that has been 807 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 1: that has you know, um that has been out has 808 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: made it legal to consume sell based meat and it 809 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: is u it's a Southeast Asia which who who did it? 810 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: Who would let me look at him? It's right here Singapore, 811 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: sing So you can eat food that has been like 812 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: meat that has been grown in a dish. You can 813 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: only do that in Singapore. Yeah, you can only do 814 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: that in Singapore. Yeah. Apparently this company is hoping to 815 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: sell its first product there, a cultivated quail meat in 816 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: a petrie dish. Hopefully most of you are through your 817 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: lunch at this point, otherwise your lunch could be coming 818 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: back on you with all this talk. So I apologize 819 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: in advance for that. But I was like, what a 820 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: mammoth meatball? So now the headline was like mammoth meatball? 821 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh wow, how big is this thing? 822 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: They said? Then I find out that it's actually from 823 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: a Willie mammoth DNA. Right, Well, they said, it's it's 824 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: the size, it's between it's it's pretty good sized. I 825 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: mean it's between the softball and a meat and a volleyball, 826 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: so you know, I mean it's big. It's jake, and 827 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: they they slow baked it and then and then finished 828 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: it off with a blowtorch on the outside. Reportedly, it 829 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: smelled great. Hey, we're gunking it says it's not smell great. 830 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: It said it smell it says, smelled good. They said 831 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: the aroma was something similar to any universe did. It 832 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: smelled great? It said, you know what, it's this is 833 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: the best part. You know what. It smelled kind of 834 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: like it kind of smelled like a meat that we 835 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: produced before out of crocodile. Well at least they didn't 836 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: say it smelled like chicken, right, at least they picked crocodile. 837 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: It smells like crocodile. Yeah, because we all know what, right, 838 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: let's pick something that nobody knows what it smells like 839 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: and use that. Yeah, it smells like crocodile. What so, 840 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, So it was they said, you know, the 841 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: animal was said in this the article that we were 842 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: looking at was the animal has been extinct for four 843 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: thousand years, so it's fairly recent. But you know, it 844 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: was a very different aroma. When they were slow baked. 845 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: They slow baked the Let me just think of it. 846 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 1: Let me just take this too. So you got this 847 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: stuff that grew in an't I can't even imagine what 848 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 1: a huge petrie dish what anyway, So they I guess 849 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: they put it in a sheep cell. They took a 850 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: living cell of a sheep and like injected it into that. 851 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: I think, I'm not a scientist. I'm just looking at 852 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: what I read here from there. So then once that, 853 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: once it gets to a certain spot, then somebody a 854 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: lab tech gather like gets puts the rubber gloves on 855 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: and smoshes it into a Yeah, roll it up right, 856 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: you gotta pack it like a big snowball, and then 857 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 1: you know, get yeah, hey, preheat that up into three 858 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: fifty and we're gonna throw this thing in there. See 859 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: what it smells like? Did we use any egg or like, 860 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: you know, dice up some onions and right right, you 861 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: make a meatball. You've got some experience with meatballs given 862 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: your your you know, don't you like add stuff into 863 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: a meat ball? Hey, you got a crack an egg 864 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: and get that in there, and breadcrumbs. I mean, come on, 865 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: what are we doing? We gonna do this if we're 866 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: gonna go to the trouble of organically growing a mammoth 867 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: meatball in a petrie dish, at least see did it properly? 868 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: I mean respect? And then how and then if you're 869 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: gonna season it and put all the other stuff in, 870 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: and how bad can it taste anyway? Right? You know? 871 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: Like how much of that stuff is there? What's the ratio? 872 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: Is it one hundred percent meat? Which it sounds like 873 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: it is. You know. It just still fascinates me how 874 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: we pull meat literally out of thin air here. Now, 875 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: that's just it still doesn't compute for me. I'm not 876 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: ready for that. Maybe my brain can't get there. Listen, 877 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm as sci fi as the next guy. I mean, 878 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: I'm a I like Star Trek and you know, and 879 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and you know, all the all the 880 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: sci fi movies and you know, but now you're going 881 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: down into it's kind of like, I'm not it's not 882 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 1: for me. I think I'm I think I'm gonna hold 883 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: out for a velociraptor burger or something. I'm gonna I'm 884 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: gonna wait for that or a you know that that'll be. 885 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: That'll be maybe tomorrow's Twitter question, what prehistoric meat are 886 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: you holding out for? Synthetical? What's the one you gotta have? Right? Right? Yeah? 887 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: Pterodactyl tacos, right, something to make it interesting, gotta be 888 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 1: some sort of You have to go through a list 889 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: of extinct you know, animals like a dodo bird or something, 890 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, dodo bird, all the extinct? Which one would 891 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: you hold out for? What do you really gotta you 892 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: gotta try? And it wouldn't it be like a t 893 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: rex or something? Yeah, it's gotta be like a dinosaur 894 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: or some kind. I mean, with how influence we've been 895 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: by all those movies, I mean, come out, we gotta 896 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: have one of those, right? So? Uh yeah, I I 897 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: just had to talk about that because I you could 898 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: have given me a chance to come up with a 899 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 1: thousand ideas on the next food product and I wouldn't 900 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: have even come within a mile of this, No way, Jose, 901 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: Just my brain couldn't even go there if you wanted me. 902 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: I know, this is an Australian company we're talking about. 903 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you what would happen if my 904 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: tax dollars got spent on that? I might I might 905 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: be right firing off a hot letter to my congressman 906 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: right then over, Yeah, how about we work on cutting fuel, 907 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: could start growing meatballs? And could you fix the hole 908 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: in my road first. Then give me the mammoth unless 909 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: that mammoth meatball will fill the pothole in the pothole, 910 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm not interested. All right, we gotta take a break. 911 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 1: We're off the road here, second hour the show. We'll 912 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 1: get back on it. We are talking about which Bill's 913 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: new free agent signing do you think we'll have the 914 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: biggest payoff in twenty twenty three. Steve and I also 915 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: have a discussion coming up on Buffalo's pick at twenty 916 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: seven and whether we think they stay, put, go up 917 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: or slide back. We'll get into all of that when 918 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 1: we return and take your phone calls as well. You're 919 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live presented by Collot of Health. It's 920 00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills ringing these one Bills Live presented by called 921 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: Light of Health. All right, here we are here our 922 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: number two on a Thursday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, 923 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: and we are talking about the bills new free agent 924 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: signings and which one you think will pay off the 925 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: most in the twenty twenty three season. Whose cream will 926 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: rise to the top and help the Bills gettories the 927 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 1: most this year? Obviously everybody will have a hand in it, 928 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: but who might be far and away the free agent 929 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: signy winner, asking you at eight oh three five fifty one, 930 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two, five fifty the number to 931 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: get on board and leading us off in this segment 932 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: is Gary on a cell? What you got for his Gary? 933 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,919 Speaker 1: You're on one? Bill's live. Hey guys, how y'all doing great? Good? 934 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 1: I got three players of f F alright, because two 935 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: effect one the other one. The two guards, you know, 936 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 1: David Edwards and Connor McGovern, and then obviously Damian Harries 937 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: because he's killed us for the last three years plus. 938 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: I liked his running style is going to be more 939 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: againstide running, you know, two guards are and affect that. Yeah, 940 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a fair description. You know, 941 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: it's hard to really determine. I think it's pretty safe 942 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: to day Steve that Connor McGovern is going to be 943 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 1: a starter in this offense, just based on the investment 944 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: they made. He was the biggest financial commitment that they 945 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 1: made so far this offseason in terms of a new 946 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: free agent three years, twenty three million dollars. So I 947 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: think it's pretty safe to say he's part of the 948 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: starting lineup for sure, and presumably at the left guard spot, 949 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: which is now vacant. But I think David Edwards is 950 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: probably in for a competition at least with Ryan Bates. 951 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: He could end up winning that job and starting, but 952 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he's as much of a lock in 953 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: the starting lineups as mcgovernans. Yeah, David Edwards I think 954 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: has a little bit more to prove than McGovern does 955 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 1: because he was hurt last year. I think, you know him, 956 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: he'll have to come in and say, Okay, how's he 957 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,839 Speaker 1: look after a year off. Basically I played four games 958 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: last year and was out for the last thirteen games 959 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: of the season, So he's got something to prove. So yeah, 960 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: they were probably keep an eye on him closely as 961 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: how he you know, acclimates back in. But you're right 962 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: the two of those guys, along with Damien Harris. Damien 963 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: Harris is an interesting signing because he's one of those 964 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: guys that's a little more you know, presidential. So I 965 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: say he's one of those guys that is really intelligent, 966 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: really committed, a real professional, applies himself and also has 967 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 1: the ability to elevate those around him, and his effect 968 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 1: on a guy like James Cook is probably a little 969 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: bit of a part of the grocery list of reasons 970 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: why they signed him. You know what I mean. I 971 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: think the Bills feel like he may be able to 972 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,320 Speaker 1: look at get James Cook to a place where he 973 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: can be the lead guy. Certainly, Damien Harris was the 974 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: guy before he got injured two years ago, and then 975 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: of course Stevenson took over. But Harris is a guy 976 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 1: who's still productive. I think that's the kind of scenario there, 977 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: or the effect they're looking to have Harris have on 978 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: Cook is to come in say, hey, listen, this is 979 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: how you need to do it. I also found the 980 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: comments that coach McDermott very interesting with respect to Damien 981 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: Harris and that he made just at the owner's meetings 982 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: earlier this week. He basically said he loves Harris's combination 983 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: of size, power and speed, and then he said, I 984 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: think the biggest part of that combination is the speed element. 985 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: We knew we needed a bigger back, but not a 986 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pound cloud of dust guy. So 987 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: to find a player with some size, some power, but 988 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: also the speed to go along with it. That's hard 989 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: to defend because he can run up inside but bounce 990 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: it outside. Two and a player can go six yards 991 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: or sixty with him, as Bill's fans saw firsthand in 992 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: that wind swept game a couple of years ago when 993 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: he ripped off that sixty four yarder for a touchdown. 994 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: And I think what this is getting at Steve is 995 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: coach McDermott's unwillingness to put a player on the field 996 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: that makes the offense predictable. And Harris, Harris has enough 997 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 1: of a varied skill set where that is not the case. 998 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: He's not the you know, no offense to car World gardner. 999 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: But when he came on the field, people knew they 1000 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: were running straight ahead, right, that's right. You don't want 1001 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: to be predictable. And I don't want this to sound bad, 1002 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: but in the years past, with Devin Singletary on the field, 1003 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: you wanted a bigger back. Okay, that's not a very 1004 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: big bar. I mean he was like two hundred five 1005 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: nine two hundred right or buck ninety five? Yeah, Devin Singletary, 1006 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: and so being bigger than Devin the bar's kind of low. 1007 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: And being faster than Devin the bars even lower. Getting 1008 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: bigger and faster at number one running back was not 1009 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: going to be difficult in this free agent market. But big, 1010 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: big guys who are really really fast are rare. Allah 1011 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, they don't, they don't happen very much. Guys 1012 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: like Nick Peterson, you know, guys with that nature, they 1013 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: just don't come along very often. Big, big guys who 1014 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: are very very fast, who can carry the ball are rare, 1015 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: But you want to get as close to it as 1016 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: you can. And Damien Harris is I think, significantly closer 1017 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: to that kind of model than Devin Singletary has been 1018 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: and anybody else who's think about the guys they brought 1019 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: out into camp and all that, they just weren't either 1020 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: they were either they were pretty fast, not very big, 1021 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: or really big and slow. Right, And I would argue 1022 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: that even if you look up Damien Harris is forty 1023 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 1: time at the combine, it was a pretty pedestrian four 1024 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: or five seven. He plays faster than that. Yeah, I mean, 1025 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: just from the evidence I've seen the last three years 1026 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: in New England, two games a year, he plays faster 1027 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: than that. He's got juice, yeah, yeah. But nevertheless, and 1028 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm having a hard time getting I'm more excited 1029 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: about the two guards that Gary called in about than 1030 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I am the running backs, those to me are bigger together. 1031 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: They're a bigger edition than one running back. They give 1032 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 1: you a depth and experience at a place where you 1033 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: were thin, and that's really good to me. If you're 1034 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: gonna like Gary did, if you're gonna bundle those two 1035 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 1: guards together, yeah, I think it's gonna be hard. You're 1036 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 1: gonna be hard pressed to find one other guy on 1037 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 1: this free agent list that's going to contribute more than 1038 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: those guys, particularly if they both start. Yeah, let's go 1039 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 1: back to the falls and we'll go to Kevin in 1040 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 1: the lockport next. So you got first, Kevin If Hi, 1041 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Stephen Chris. My question on the free agency I feel 1042 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna pay off the most is Damian Harris, only 1043 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: because the Bills are going to do better in the 1044 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 1: red zone when they need touchdowns close by. And they 1045 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 1: also got one draft question to ask you, guys, I'm 1046 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna let you I'm gonna go off the phone. How 1047 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 1: about if we trade our number one pick trade out 1048 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 1: of the first round to the Houston Texans for their 1049 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 1: top pick in the second round and their top pick 1050 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 1: in the third round. I'm gonna let you go and 1051 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: you can answer that all right, thanks, Kevin. I'd have 1052 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 1: to take a look to see if the value lines 1053 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: upright where that would be a fair trade off, because 1054 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: with the Bills trading out of the bottom of round one, 1055 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 1: the value is not super great even though it is 1056 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: a first round draft choice. So I was the draft 1057 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,479 Speaker 1: the number for if you're given the number twenty seven 1058 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: pick of the draft a six hundred six and eighty 1059 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 1: value rating, which is what it is on the thing, 1060 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: and Houston's round two or at the top of thirty three, 1061 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: it's sad of twenty seventy drop beyond five spots goes 1062 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: down to five eighty, so that's like a two hundred 1063 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: point drop. And then he says and then the one 1064 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: at sixty five would be two sixty five, So not 1065 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: getting all that, you're not getting all that. You might 1066 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: be able to trade your twenty seven and you're one 1067 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: oh two pick um or not one oh two? What 1068 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: are the what are the Bills? Um? You could trade? 1069 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: You could trade on the ninety one or maybe the one, 1070 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah you could. Yeah, even the one thirty pick wouldn't 1071 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: be enough, and let's say take it. Yeah, so you'd 1072 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: have to take that point. You'd have to trade him 1073 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: the one and up and something else and a third 1074 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: or fourth for those two twos or the two and 1075 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: the three. That's so, yeah, you can make it happen, 1076 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: but it would be expense more expensive than you're thinking. Yeah, 1077 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 1: you'd have to trade. And look, Steve and I'll get 1078 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 1: into this a little bit more once we get through 1079 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: the phone calls that we got people in here, I 1080 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: think there is a very real possibility they trade back, 1081 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: because the more people we talk to in the know, 1082 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: the more we're hearing that players in this draft with 1083 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: consensus first round grades do not number thirty two. They 1084 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: may not even number twenty five, and the Bills pick 1085 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,479 Speaker 1: at twenty seven. So if the Bills only have first 1086 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: round grades on twenty five players and all those twenty 1087 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 1: five players are gone, they're gonna be looking to get 1088 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: out now. There could be a scenario, knowing thirty two 1089 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: boards are different across the league based on what they 1090 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: need and what fits their systems, there could be some 1091 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: players in Buffalo's group of twenty five that get down 1092 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: to twenty seven, and in that case they would pick. 1093 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: But hearing that the general consensus is the pool of 1094 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 1: players with first round grades in this draft, is unlikely 1095 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: to number or thirty, let alone twenty five. It could 1096 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 1: be a challenge for the Bills to find good value 1097 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: at twenty seven and round one this year, and it 1098 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: might precipitate a move out. So we'll have to see 1099 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 1: how that shakes out, and then if in fact they 1100 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 1: do move out, we'll have to ask Brandon being after 1101 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,439 Speaker 1: night one, Hey, was there just no player with first 1102 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 1: round grades it left on the board? That would be 1103 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 1: the question we'd probably post to him, and more often 1104 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: than not, he's pretty upfront and honest about how those 1105 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 1: things shake out. But let's get back to the phones 1106 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 1: and take a call from Chris and Rochester. Next. What 1107 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 1: you got for first? Chris, you're on one Bills Live. Hey, 1108 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 1: Chris and Steve, how are you guys doing today? Good? Good? Good? 1109 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Okay? Yes? Oh yeah, okay, good. 1110 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: Just want to make sure I'm on speaker phone sometimes 1111 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 1: that's kind of walky. So I wanted to talk to 1112 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: you guys about the Taylor rap signing that the Bills made. 1113 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 1: I kind of have to take on it, and I 1114 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 1: want to get your opinion, and then I also kind 1115 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: of want to hear um. I got a question in 1116 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 1: terms of how he fits on the field. So, Um, 1117 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 1: when the Bills made this signing, um, it kind of 1118 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 1: reminded me of when the Bills signed Raphael Bush in 1119 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: twenty and eighteen. Do you guys remember Raphael Bush barely? Okay, 1120 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: he was he was signed in twenty and eighteen as 1121 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: kind of a depth safety. Uh. You know we already 1122 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 1: had my guy your lawyer in twenty seventeen, right right. Um. 1123 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 1: And so the interesting thing was they went into camp 1124 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: and he played so well in the preseason and in 1125 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 1: training camp that they really couldn't keep him off the field. Um. 1126 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,439 Speaker 1: We said, gee, you know, this guy's playing so well, 1127 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: we gotta find ways creative ways to get you know, 1128 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: all of our safeties on the field. UM, I would argue, 1129 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 1: I think Taylor Rap is a more established player. I 1130 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 1: mean he's a starting calip or safety. I'm trying to 1131 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: have as our yeah, who we kind of have as 1132 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 1: a I guess a luxury backup. But I guess the 1133 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: question I have is, and you guys want to have 1134 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 1: talked about this before, and I might have missed it 1135 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 1: if it so I apologize, But is there ways that 1136 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 1: you could see all the you know, Taylor Rap as 1137 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: well as Player and Hide and not having to take 1138 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 1: Taren Johnson off the field, because I wouldn't want to 1139 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: take Taren off the field either. Is there a way 1140 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 1: they get all those guys on the field at the 1141 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: same time, because I think they can all play. I'll 1142 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: hang up and I'll listen to what you guys have 1143 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: to say. So thanks, Well, we did talk about this 1144 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. Brownie and I were talking with 1145 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott calling defensive signals. He may have a 1146 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: different philosophy about how to deploy guys and switch up 1147 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 1: the personnel more unless it was his idea to do 1148 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 1: that in the first place. We don't know. Leslie. Fraser's 1149 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: certainly ninety percent. I'm to use the word Brownie knows 1150 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: better than any like ninety percent of the time the 1151 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 1: Bills are in nickel defense, right. So the only time 1152 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 1: they're not in nickel defense is when it's short yardage 1153 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: or goal line like fourth and one or you know, 1154 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: first and goal from the one, that kind of stuff. 1155 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 1: They'll go heavy. Other than that, Taron Johnson, Tradevious White, Kyrie, 1156 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Elam Poyer and Hide are gonna be on the field 1157 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 1: along with the two linebackers. If you're gonna change that 1158 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 1: up at all and you've got a guy like Rap 1159 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 1: who can get on the field and play, yeah you might. 1160 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,959 Speaker 1: You might find ways to get those guys on the field. 1161 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 1: We don't know what this defense is gonna look like 1162 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott calling the signals, because the only people 1163 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: that change out of this defense, as we all know, 1164 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: are the front four, the back six or back seven. 1165 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: They never change. Tarn Johnson has made it possible for 1166 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: the Bills to play Nickel ninety of the time because 1167 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: he's scrappy in the run game, he sticks his nose in. 1168 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that changes this year with Sean McDermott, and maybe 1169 01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Rap is more than just a depth player at twenty five. 1170 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: You got to think this is a guy that's kind 1171 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 1: of ready to spread his wings. Maybe there's a reason 1172 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 1: a twenty five year old safety in the NFL is 1173 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 1: still out there in the second or third week of 1174 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 1: free agency. Maybe there's something on film that he's maybe 1175 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 1: got some work to do to be good enough to 1176 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: be a highly sought after free agent, and he's got 1177 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 1: a one year deal with the Bills to prove it 1178 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 1: that he is that guy. Maybe there's a reason that 1179 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 1: they think he's a depth piece rather than a really 1180 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: really good player, or if there's a chance he doesn't 1181 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 1: reach his potential. I don't know, but I agree we 1182 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Brownie and I both I think agree, and I don't 1183 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: want to speak for Brownie, but yeah, I think this defense, 1184 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 1: we don't know what it's gonna look like, and these 1185 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 1: signings all need to be evaluated through a lens that 1186 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,559 Speaker 1: of ignorance. We don't know what they're going to use 1187 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: these guys for, how they're gonna deploy them. Are they 1188 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna go ninety five percent Nickel again this year with 1189 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 1: a different defensive coordinator. We don't know the answer to that. 1190 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know what these signings mean. Yeah, and 1191 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think that if you look at it, 1192 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 1: you've got history to go on. Here. I mentioned how 1193 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 1: in his past as a defensive coordinator in Carolina that 1194 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,559 Speaker 1: McDermott has used three safety looks in his scheme before 1195 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he did it his very last 1196 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 1: year in Carolina. Kurt Coleman and Trey Boston were the 1197 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,879 Speaker 1: starting safeties in twenty sixteen for Carolina, but Michael Griffin 1198 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: was there as well, and he played in thirteen games 1199 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 1: and started six and had forty tackles, So it's not 1200 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 1: like he was some part time player. He got some 1201 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 1: legitimate playing time in the scope of their defense. So 1202 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: I think that there is room to at least open 1203 01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 1: up your brain to the idea that some three safety 1204 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 1: looks are possible. I think the question is are we 1205 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,880 Speaker 1: going to see it every single week? Is it going 1206 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,679 Speaker 1: to be opponent specific? And if it is opponents specific, 1207 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 1: are we talking specific matchups based on the personnel coming 1208 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,640 Speaker 1: out on the field, or are we talking a legitimate 1209 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,720 Speaker 1: scheme type thing to neutralize something that the other team 1210 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 1: does well. And as we know, that can vary greatly 1211 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 1: from week to week. But I would not rule it 1212 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 1: out at all because he is a talented player with 1213 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: a proven track record, and he was a four year 1214 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 1: starter and a former second round pick. I mean, this 1215 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 1: is not like some fly by night pick up here. 1216 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: This is a proven player with great physical ability, and 1217 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 1: if the Bills feel he makes them better as a defense, 1218 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 1: they will find a way to utilize him. That's what 1219 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 1: coaches are paid to do. And there's always this thought too. 1220 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,880 Speaker 1: He came from the Rams, and the Rams are in 1221 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 1: a different place financial than they were two years ago, 1222 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,719 Speaker 1: three years ago, and they got a guy at twenty 1223 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,160 Speaker 1: five year old who's coming into the end of his 1224 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 1: contract who's gonna hit the free agent market and knows it. 1225 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,680 Speaker 1: They're not gonna jump up and they're not gonna I mean, 1226 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 1: they got rid of Jalen Ramsey for goodness sake. I 1227 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,639 Speaker 1: mean they're they're kind of stripping it down in LA. 1228 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 1: So they may he may be a better player than 1229 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: they're able to pay, or maybe they they don't have 1230 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,600 Speaker 1: as a great value on their safeties as teams like 1231 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Buffalo does on their two safeties. But he hit the 1232 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 1: free agent market for a reason, a twenty five year old. 1233 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:33,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not that great a player, or maybe the 1234 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 1: Rams just can't afford him even on a one year deal, 1235 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: or maybe he maybe the Rams we're gonna match it. 1236 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 1: And he's like going, now, I'm done here. We're not 1237 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,639 Speaker 1: gonna do anything. I want to go to a place 1238 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 1: where the content can that can contend. I've already won 1239 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 1: one World championship. Let's win another somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah, 1240 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: I could see that. I could totally see that. And 1241 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 1: much like you know, the Mitchell Trubisky situation. It could 1242 01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: also be, hey, let me go somewhere where I can 1243 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,599 Speaker 1: get on a good roster with good players, win some games, 1244 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 1: playing some high profile games, and if I get the opportunity, 1245 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 1: I can maximize my value going back into the agency 1246 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 1: next year. I'll give you an example, and we talked 1247 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 1: about this. Devin Singletary signed a three point seven million 1248 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: dollar contract. What happened on a one year deal. I'm 1249 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 1: not saying anything against it because we all we all 1250 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 1: love motor, But when you get a guy that comes 1251 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 1: off a really a team, that's been on a role 1252 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,960 Speaker 1: his entire career, doesn't he get a little extra credit 1253 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 1: for contributing to that, Like maybe he's one of the 1254 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,880 Speaker 1: reasons they've been so good. So teams are gonna give 1255 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,639 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary a three point seven million dollar deal. Where 1256 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 1: you've got a guy like Damien Harris, who who's a 1257 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: ball accounts a better athlete, he doesn't get that deal 1258 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 1: from the Bills. Now, the Bills are saving money on 1259 01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 1: the Devin Singletary contract. They're getting Damien Harris, a guy 1260 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 1: who they think athletically is better. But there's a team 1261 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: in Houston and think, hey, Devin Singletary is probably a 1262 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,919 Speaker 1: big contributor to one of the best offenses in football. 1263 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: He gets a little extra credit for being on a 1264 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 1: great team. Players know that in free agency. So that's 1265 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: why guys that's not only they want to win a championship. 1266 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: When you're playing on a good team, everybody on the 1267 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: whole roster gets a little credit for contributing just something 1268 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: that's really good, you know. So you get a little 1269 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: boost by being on a really good team, even if 1270 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 1: you're a backup. Because we've made this argument about some 1271 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 1: of the free agent signings of the Bills have had, 1272 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,760 Speaker 1: it's hard to get on the field for a team like, 1273 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,760 Speaker 1: for instance, a wide receiver in Cincinnati who doesn't play much. Yeah, 1274 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 1: no kidding, he's got like three of the best receivers 1275 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,720 Speaker 1: in the league and that of him, So he may 1276 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: be way better than a number two on another team 1277 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: just because he's got three guys ahead of him who 1278 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: are who are all Pro caliber, a Pro Bowl caliber. 1279 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 1: So you get my point, you get you get a 1280 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 1: boost in the perception of the kind of player you 1281 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: are by being on a great team, because wow, this 1282 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,639 Speaker 1: guy's contributing to a really great effort. Over there in Buffalo, 1283 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,560 Speaker 1: when here in Buffalo is like, Wow, we need to 1284 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 1: upgrade Devon. You know, we need to upgrade that guy. 1285 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,960 Speaker 1: You know, It's that kind of thing. It depends on 1286 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,640 Speaker 1: where you're at. No, I get it. I get it. 1287 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,680 Speaker 1: I totally get it, and you know it doesn't surprise me. 1288 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 1: So you know what we've got is I think the 1289 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 1: one thing that surprises me a little bit with the 1290 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,639 Speaker 1: conversation we've had with the callers though far, is nobody 1291 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 1: has gone to the glitzy signings. Not that the wide 1292 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 1: receiver signings were super glitzye, It's not like they were 1293 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 1: household names for the average fan. But you know, Deonte 1294 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:43,839 Speaker 1: Hardy kind of intrigues me. And I know he's probably 1295 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 1: down on the pecking order at the receiver position, you know, 1296 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 1: because he's clearly behind Digs and Davis and could potentially 1297 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 1: even be behind Shakier, especially when Brandon Bean said he's 1298 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,680 Speaker 1: probably going to fit into that number four role. But 1299 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 1: what intrigues me about him is he threatens all three 1300 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: levels of the defense. And I think that's one thing 1301 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 1: that Isaiah mackenzie simply could not do. But this guy 1302 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 1: has proven film that shows him threatening defenses at the 1303 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,440 Speaker 1: at all three levels, and for a guy that's diminutive 1304 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:18,320 Speaker 1: in stature, that that kind of surprised me because you 1305 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 1: don't often see that from you know, the smaller, quicker guys, 1306 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 1: and he can do that. So he intrigues me a 1307 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,599 Speaker 1: little bit. And I wonder if he'll have stats similar 1308 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 1: to what we've seen from Dave Davis in recent years, 1309 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 1: you know, somewhere around thirty five receptions, but maybe he's 1310 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 1: got six or seven touchdowns. Yeah, it's an interesting thought 1311 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 1: because I think for Bills fans, people who are kind of, 1312 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 1: you know, like you and I were. I mean, we're 1313 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 1: eyeballs deep and all this stuff, particularly for Buffalo and 1314 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 1: all Bills fans are kind of right there with us. 1315 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,120 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to say a guy like Hardy 1316 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 1: is going to be a big difference maker or Surefield's 1317 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: going to be a big difference maker, because we can't 1318 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,599 Speaker 1: predict who's going to play. I mean, we've thought Khalil 1319 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,680 Speaker 1: Shakir was gonna play, we thought Mackenzie was gonna you know, 1320 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 1: we couldn't even get a handle on why the receivers 1321 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 1: were on the field were on the field in the 1322 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,960 Speaker 1: last season, right it always seemed like to us, I mean, 1323 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 1: Khalil was really productive whenever he got in the gamer. 1324 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 1: It seemed like that was the perception, and yet we 1325 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 1: didn't see him on the field that much. And the 1326 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,599 Speaker 1: same thing a little bit with Cook and the running 1327 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 1: backs and all that. But so I think it's hard 1328 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:30,720 Speaker 1: for people to project how big a difference one of 1329 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 1: these receivers are going to make when we don't have 1330 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 1: a handle on how they use their receivers or what 1331 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 1: their philosophy is on who gets to play, right, not 1332 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,280 Speaker 1: to mention the fact that you have a new receivers 1333 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,680 Speaker 1: coach in the mix as well. Yeah, that's true. That 1334 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 1: whole thing's too We have to take a break here. 1335 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,600 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll get some thoughts on the 1336 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 1: tweet sheet from you in terms of who you believe 1337 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,599 Speaker 1: in terms of the new free agents will pay off 1338 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,519 Speaker 1: the most in twenty three season. Back in a flash 1339 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Klot of Health, 1340 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back, we are here 1341 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker on a Thursday, 1342 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 1: and time to crack open the tweet sheet where we've 1343 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 1: been asking you today what New Bills free agent signing 1344 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 1: will pay off the most in twenty twenty three. Tweet 1345 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,759 Speaker 1: sheet is always brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, 1346 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and 1347 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,640 Speaker 1: we lead off with let's go Buffalo. Who says it 1348 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 1: should be Connor McGovern. Roger Saffold did not have a 1349 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 1: good year last season. Connor had either guard spot should 1350 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,519 Speaker 1: improve the old line. A close second could be Damian 1351 01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 1: Harris if used properly. I mean McGovern, it's a proven starter. 1352 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 1: I guess the biggest difference Steve is he's still I 1353 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,720 Speaker 1: think you could argue in his prime, considerably younger than 1354 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,439 Speaker 1: Roger Saffold, who came in here, as you know, a 1355 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,439 Speaker 1: veteran kind of in the twilight of his career. So 1356 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:19,679 Speaker 1: from that standpoint alone, you would expect better play. Absolutely yeah. 1357 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:24,559 Speaker 1: And he's right the offensive line. And here's the thing too, 1358 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,479 Speaker 1: With a quarterback like Josh, the offensive offensive line is 1359 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,600 Speaker 1: going to look better at times and it should, and 1360 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,679 Speaker 1: it's also gonna look worse at times than it should 1361 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 1: because of the things that Josh does. Josh busting out 1362 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,000 Speaker 1: of the pocket like there's pressure when sometimes there's not 1363 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,599 Speaker 1: pressure or Josh hanging onto the football not getting rid 1364 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 1: of it, and the you know, on the offensive line 1365 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 1: actually doing its job and then looking bad as he 1366 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: has to go down because he can't break contain. So 1367 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 1: Josh is always a kind of a wild card, and 1368 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,800 Speaker 1: how you evaluate the offensive line as his mahomes and 1369 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,960 Speaker 1: those guys that are mobile. The offensive line at time 1370 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,160 Speaker 1: is gonna look bad and people tend to remember that 1371 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 1: more so than the good play they had. So, yes, 1372 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line will play better. I'm interested to see 1373 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 1: what that's gonna look like. Are they gonna run the 1374 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 1: ball better? Is Josh gonna scramble less? Because the thing 1375 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 1: about Josh is to me is his playmaking ability. Yeah, 1376 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,439 Speaker 1: he's got that huge arm and he can drop back 1377 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 1: and sling it on time and the ball comes out 1378 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 1: and all that's well and good. But the thing that 1379 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 1: sets him apart is his athleticism, his ability to bust 1380 01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,720 Speaker 1: out on a play that's covered or where they get 1381 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 1: a jailbreak on the pass rush. What that looks like 1382 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:45,519 Speaker 1: better offensive line play? Okay? You know, okay, so you're thinking, okay, great, 1383 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,320 Speaker 1: that means he doesn't ever have to scramble and he's 1384 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna throw the football, it's gonna be a seventy percent 1385 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 1: completion percentage. I don't think it's gonna be that that way, right, 1386 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 1: what's it gonna look like? You can say, well, they 1387 01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, they may draft a number A kid at 1388 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 1: twenty seven who can start on the offensive line. Then 1389 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,639 Speaker 1: they got like three new starters on the offensive line 1390 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 1: or you know whatever, and it's like, wow, this is 1391 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 1: gonna be great, and they may play lights out, but 1392 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,960 Speaker 1: the way it translates, what are they're gonna They scored 1393 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,719 Speaker 1: more points last year than they did the year before 1394 01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:21,559 Speaker 1: with Brian Dable, So I don't know what that's gonna 1395 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 1: look like. I mean, it's pretty good now, and nobody 1396 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 1: likes the offensive line. I don't know. I'm I don't 1397 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: know how good it's gonna get because I guess it's 1398 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:38,799 Speaker 1: my point. Yeah, And it's interesting that he mentions Damian 1399 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Harris is a close second if used properly, would what 1400 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 1: would the proper usage of Damian Harris by Steve short yardage? 1401 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 1: So Josh isn't doing it gold line where he has 1402 01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 1: been an effective back in his career or is it 1403 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 1: an expand? Is it expanded beyond that, because there were times, 1404 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, in the in the period where James White 1405 01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 1: was hurt for the Patriots, who had been their third 1406 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 1: down back for years, was suddenly out of the lineup. 1407 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,720 Speaker 1: In James White more often than not was the guy 1408 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,080 Speaker 1: on the field, which means that coaching staff had an 1409 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 1: enormous amount of trust in him, that he knew what 1410 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,120 Speaker 1: he was doing on a very important down where defensive 1411 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 1: looks can get quite exotic. You mean, Damien Harris was 1412 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 1: on the field after James White went down. Harris right, So, yeah, 1413 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,920 Speaker 1: us if he comes in for short yardist goal line 1414 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:32,560 Speaker 1: and he says, all right, yeah, he's gonna have a 1415 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,040 Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns, Well, you know, so was Josh when 1416 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,560 Speaker 1: he was the guy. So I don't I don't know 1417 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,400 Speaker 1: what improvement you get excepted taking Yeah, and I guess 1418 01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 1: it's good that you take the risk off Josh and 1419 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: his legs jumping, you know, jumping over the top, by 1420 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 1: handing it off to somebody else and let them take 1421 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 1: the shots. But you know, if he's just short yardist 1422 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,200 Speaker 1: goal on, what are you talking about? Four carries a game? Yeah, 1423 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: Well that's why I'm asking, That's why i'm asking what 1424 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,680 Speaker 1: is used properly in your mind for him in this 1425 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 1: offense if well, yeah, he's probably got to take over 1426 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,920 Speaker 1: the entire role that Devin Singletary did and do it better. 1427 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think that goes to Cook instead? Well, 1428 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 1: if it goes to Cook, what do we got Jamie 1429 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 1: and Harris for, because Devin Singletary was out there all 1430 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 1: the time. Well, right, and that's the question I think. 1431 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 1: So I think this is an opportunity for James Cook. 1432 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,679 Speaker 1: And I almost feel like Damian Harris's insurance in case 1433 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 1: Cook can't handle it. Well, it's like you said, you 1434 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 1: don't want to be predictable. James Harris comes in the game, 1435 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 1: he's getting the ball. You know, Josh gonna turn around 1436 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,800 Speaker 1: hand it to him if that you know, because and 1437 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 1: James Cook can run, you know, he run routes. He'll 1438 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,719 Speaker 1: run out of the backfield, he'll split out wide, he'll 1439 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,000 Speaker 1: go to a wingback position to run a route. You know, 1440 01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 1: James Cook kind of got that guy. Damien Harris is 1441 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 1: a guy. He's a running back. You know, he's taking 1442 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 1: the hand off and going to me. So maybe Damien 1443 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,519 Speaker 1: Harris becomes does he more of a three down back? 1444 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Than James Cook is, I guess is the question, right, 1445 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna take training camp to figure 1446 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 1: that out. Because if James Cook comes in here and 1447 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,720 Speaker 1: he's ripped up to high heaven and he's on his 1448 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,439 Speaker 1: p's and ques, and he takes full advantage of the opportunity, well, 1449 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 1: Damian Harris is just insurance. I'm not saying he wouldn't 1450 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,519 Speaker 1: get on the field. But if Cook fulfills his full 1451 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,120 Speaker 1: athletic potential, which is pretty darn special in my estimation, 1452 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:41,679 Speaker 1: he's gonna be the guy. Yeah, you'd think, I don't 1453 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,479 Speaker 1: know what that don't know if that's actually gonna happen. 1454 01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:44,880 Speaker 1: We thought it was gonna be the guy last year 1455 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 1: and right, but we know how this team typically takes 1456 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 1: its time putting rookies on the field in big roles, right, Yeah, anyway, 1457 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,800 Speaker 1: we don't know that yet, but I think that's the 1458 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 1: that's the question. Who can Damien Harris be as good 1459 01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,240 Speaker 1: out of the backfield in the passing game and in 1460 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,600 Speaker 1: pass pro and running the football as James Cook is? 1461 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 1: Because I think what ultimately what the Bills want is 1462 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 1: a three down back. You know, they want a guy 1463 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 1: that can be on the field all the time, and 1464 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 1: if those they have two of them, they'll interchange them 1465 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 1: and keep them fresh. And like we saw sometimes with 1466 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 1: Zach Moss and Devin singletary, guy that's making hey gets 1467 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,479 Speaker 1: to go in the field, right, you know they'll go 1468 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,960 Speaker 1: with the hot hand. Yeah, on a week on a 1469 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 1: week by week basis, absolutely, Yeah. Let's go back to 1470 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet and p says Taylor Rap significantly less 1471 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 1: of a talent drop off at safety after the starters, 1472 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,640 Speaker 1: and we'll also play together with Poyer and Hide. I 1473 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,200 Speaker 1: think that's a giant thing that we haven't even discussed 1474 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,479 Speaker 1: yet about Taylor Rap. Let's just say those three safety 1475 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,439 Speaker 1: looks are few and far between on a week to 1476 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 1: week basis. But one of these guys you know who's 1477 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,320 Speaker 1: on the wrong side of thirty misses another five or 1478 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 1: six games this year turn into Taylor Rap instead of 1479 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,960 Speaker 1: like a second year player with far less starting experience. 1480 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,839 Speaker 1: Holy cow, that's a that's a that's a very fortunate 1481 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,000 Speaker 1: position to be in. Yeah. And I'll say this too, 1482 01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,600 Speaker 1: and I think go ahead. I was just I was 1483 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 1: just gonna say. And I also think Steve that this 1484 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 1: coaching staff realized how much they do lose when either 1485 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 1: one or both of those veteran safeties are out of 1486 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,559 Speaker 1: the lineup, and said, hey, we really got to insulate 1487 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 1: ourselves here. If we can with a proven player to 1488 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,120 Speaker 1: fill in in the event that one of those guys 1489 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,760 Speaker 1: can't go in a given week. You have that now, Yeah, 1490 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,679 Speaker 1: and I think there's always a chance to athletically raps 1491 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,800 Speaker 1: better than either poor or or height at this point 1492 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,200 Speaker 1: in their career, maybe faster. Maybe you know, he's six 1493 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 1: feet tall, so he's big enough. That's It may be 1494 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 1: too that you're you're right, Bronnie, as we said earlier, 1495 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 1: it may be that he is the heir apparent. You know, 1496 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna groom him to be the guy 1497 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,479 Speaker 1: that takes over for one of these guys. Maybe they 1498 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 1: don't want to go around the bend, you know, go 1499 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 1: around this. You know, everybody's signing one year deals, one 1500 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 1: year deals, one year deals. Maybe he's gonna be the 1501 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:12,680 Speaker 1: guy that says, Okay, now we're gonna give you a 1502 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,720 Speaker 1: two year extension or a four year extension kind of thing. 1503 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: Maybe they want to get to know him before they 1504 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,200 Speaker 1: give him a longer term deal. Maybe they were talking 1505 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,600 Speaker 1: about giving him a longer term deal, and you know, 1506 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 1: they said, let's get to know him first. If he's 1507 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,559 Speaker 1: the right kind of guy, maybe that kind of thing. Well, 1508 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if they had the 1509 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,080 Speaker 1: money to do a long term deal. By the sounds 1510 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,800 Speaker 1: of it, I mean, Brandon Ban's talking about how most 1511 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 1: of whatever he does in free agency going forward, it's 1512 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 1: probably gonna be a the one year deal variety, which 1513 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,200 Speaker 1: is really the soup do youre across the league right 1514 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 1: now when you think about it, Yeah, it is, and 1515 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 1: everybody's the Bills didn't invent a one year contract, but 1516 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,160 Speaker 1: they're perfecting it, and they did it quick. They'd have 1517 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 1: been doing it for five ahead of the curve on it. Yeah, 1518 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 1: they've been doing it for five years now. Everybody else 1519 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 1: is going hah that because you know, you get the 1520 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,160 Speaker 1: guys to the end of that contract while they're under contract, 1521 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:00,760 Speaker 1: if they're if they're wing it out of the park, 1522 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,040 Speaker 1: you can always go to him an eight. You can 1523 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 1: go to him a week six of that one year 1524 01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 1: deal and say, hey, how about a two year extension. 1525 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, you can do anything you want, you can. 1526 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,360 Speaker 1: You can get those guys lined up, you know, you've 1527 01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 1: got them, so you can talk to him and talk 1528 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,519 Speaker 1: him into it. So the one year deals I think are, 1529 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's going to be doing a lot more 1530 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,240 Speaker 1: of it for the time being, until until a better 1531 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 1: idea comes along. I love it because it also at 1532 01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,560 Speaker 1: the end of the year, it gives you Saldarcap flexibility. 1533 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,679 Speaker 1: All that money comes off the books. Absolutely, we gotta 1534 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 1: take a quick break here. We'll get some final thoughts 1535 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,760 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Next here on one Bills Live, 1536 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:53,680 Speaker 1: presented by Kelly to Health. It's Buffalo Bills right all right, 1537 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,600 Speaker 1: Back to the tweet sheet we go here with just 1538 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,160 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left, Jack says guards I believe 1539 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,559 Speaker 1: both will start in move Bates back to a reserve. 1540 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 1: Their athleticism and size will help blast open gaps for 1541 01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Cooking Company. More importantly, it helps give Alan more time 1542 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 1: to find open receivers. Can't sleep on Trent Sherfield. Dude 1543 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,200 Speaker 1: burns to be his best and that will shine at 1544 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,040 Speaker 1: some point. Jennifer meanwhile says, for me, it's a tie 1545 01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 1: between McGovern and Harris. Both are going to help our 1546 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,800 Speaker 1: offense become even more of a super threat. And then 1547 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:28,000 Speaker 1: Tank says Deonte. Hardy will provide a quick strike target 1548 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,200 Speaker 1: spread the defense. It can be used for jet sweep, 1549 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,679 Speaker 1: slants and passes over the top. For some reason, Steve, 1550 01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,840 Speaker 1: I think Hardy is going to be more than just 1551 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,880 Speaker 1: the gadget player that we saw McKenzie the last few years. 1552 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,519 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be more than that. Maybe you'd 1553 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,080 Speaker 1: like to think that, or at least be more effective 1554 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,760 Speaker 1: and maybe get one or two more opportunities a game 1555 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,720 Speaker 1: than McKenzie did. For whatever reason, you always felt like 1556 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 1: when he did something, why not do more of that? 1557 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 1: And sometimes you get frustrated waiting on him. We'll see 1558 01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,160 Speaker 1: if they use Hardy a little bit more frequently than 1559 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 1: they did McKenzie. Yeah, and I think they'll use mackenzie 1560 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,360 Speaker 1: deeper down the field as well, because being said in himself, 1561 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,040 Speaker 1: he threatens all three levels of the defense. Well, if 1562 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:13,680 Speaker 1: that's the case, they're gonna be telling Ken Dorsey make 1563 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,160 Speaker 1: sure you put that in for him, right. And that's 1564 01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,720 Speaker 1: what a head coach does. I mean he'll give the 1565 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,519 Speaker 1: coordinate say hey, do more of this and less of that. 1566 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,400 Speaker 1: Now that's it for us today. I hope you enjoyed 1567 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 1: the show, especially that mam at Meatball conversation and Steve 1568 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,880 Speaker 1: snake cut. Those were magical. We'll see you tomorrow at one. Everybody, 1569 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,000 Speaker 1: enjoy your Thursday