1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Wait in the Morning Breakfast Club Yep, Charlomagne God Angela 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: DJ Envy had to bounce for a second. But we 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: got a young man in here who's got one of 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: my favorite rap albums of the year, The Forever Story. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Jida is here. What's up, my brother? How are you? Man? 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: How are you feeling? I'm solid the first time here, 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: isn't it? First time? Yeah? Welcome? Yeah, I appreciate you absolutely, 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: And I loved the Forever Story. Man. Tell me about 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: the title of that project. Um, I'm like being into 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: like sequels. So the first um a project that I 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: guess got me like notice was The Never Story, you know, 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: like Friday, Friday, Next Friday, Like you know what I'm 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: the Forever Stories like the extension of the Never Story 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: True Pel Yeah, essentially. Yeah, And we learned a lot 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: about you from some I like how you tell stories. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of how ghosts Facebook teller 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: story and name people and you don't know who they are. Yeah, 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: but it's a good way to like explain everything that happened. Yeah, 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: it's it's literally like account like on account or detailed accounts. 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just because I was like 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: that Terry Pain. I first of all that you said 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: tea pain, yeah, and that song, but it's Terry Pain. Yeah, 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: he hate that. He hate that story. Yeah, um u. 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: That's from a song called Cody Blue thirty one. Initially 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the song is dedicated to my hunger. Her son had passed. 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: His name is Cody and he played at this part 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: that I used to play by all that it's called 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: Centrally caval and his like the team is blue when 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: his number with thirty one. So I just dedicated that 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: to him. But it was just like telling stories about 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: childhood stuff and then my dog, Terry Pain. We always 32 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: used to joking each other and stuff, and my sister 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: was like, all my sister was super fine. So he's like, oh, 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying making jokes about, like, oh, 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: your sister that we always had a little like teenage combat. 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying about to throw hands about it. 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't even think me and Terry. I said 38 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: that was why I was on the song I'm about 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: to swing because we never really hit by it, but 40 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just telling stories of growing 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: up and stuff like that. That's all it was Atlanta. 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why for the longest. 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: First I thought you was from North Carolina for a while. 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: Then I don't see it like that. No, No, he 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: just said it because of cold though, That's why that was. 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: And then I thought you was from Virginia for a 47 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: second because you went to Hampton for a little while. 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm on, man, hold on, bro, come on, man, but 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: you went to Hampton for a second, right, Yeah, I 50 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: got you and the Earth Gag y'all got kicked up. 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: I got kicked out. Um, half of them got kicked out. Okay, yeah, 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: but you from the A from the Yeah, okay, okay. 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Now how did that record with Imagine Dragons change your life? Bro? 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: When I tell you a machine, Bro, I ain't never 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: seen no machine like that. And like you said, like 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm signing a cold you know what I'm saying, I 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: ain't never seen a record work in respect they put 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: to it um to women like cold On got a machine. 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: He got a machine. He is a machine hself. But yeah, 60 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: I like it initially came. I guess they were fans, 61 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Um, And they love hip hop, 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: hip hop. They're like real into it. You know what 63 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, just the music, the type of stuff we do, 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Like they showed love respect to it. And I already 65 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: knew how they was who they was, Like you hear 66 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: the niggas and target there and you know what I'm saying, 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: just just walking anywhere. So my my manager sent me 68 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: the record said they wanted me to get on it. 69 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I actually don't know how it came about. Wow, 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: now that I'm going through this story, I actually don't know. 71 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: I just know somebody rich reached out. At the time, 72 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm at like Mac Millerhouse, We're working on some music recipes. 73 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: My dog mat were working on the song, and I 74 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: remember how I started the song. Bro's like, no, I 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: don't like that for this song. Maybe an hour later, 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: I get a text He's like, hey, Matt Drags, once 77 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: you get on this song. I played it. Mac was like, 78 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: you should start this song off. How he was about 79 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: to start off on the song he's working and it 80 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: was perfect. Like, I'm glad he told me that because 81 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: it turned in like the biggest, one of the biggest 82 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: features I ever did. Had to record that long ago. Yeah, Bro, 83 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: it's like twenty did you he passed. Wow, Yeah, it's 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: been sitting. Just that's what I'm saying, the respect they 85 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: put to it, Like it's been sitting for almost four years, 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: and then it's just been on the charts like forever 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: almost got a billion screams, like it's double platinum maybe 88 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: three times in some place. Yeah. I remember when they 89 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: announced it. I think for the year, you had more 90 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: screams than Cole Yeah, And everybody was like, well, how 91 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: did that happen? I'm like, well, jig got a catalog, 92 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: but also gotta be this imagine dragon yea, yeah, yeah, 93 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: play gotta play the game. Yeah. Seem like the type 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: of person that would be happy for you for that. 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: You know how why wouldn't you be? We didn't talk 96 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: about that regular one time. I don't only know if 97 00:04:53,960 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: about he got yeah. I mean that's interesting. I I 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: wanted like, did everything go up for you after that? 99 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: Did like the labels say, yo, you gotta finish up 100 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: the album? Did the budget get bigger? Like you know what? 101 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: I ain't even really like I was good with it, 102 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: like I understood the moment and stuff like that, but 103 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to like go off of their coat tails. Right, 104 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: I ain't try to let the moment die, you know 105 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But at the same time, I was like, 106 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: all right, I appreciate this, but I want a record 107 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: like that for my own, you know what I'm saying. 108 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: I want that under my name. I want you I 109 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: d to have one of those. And if that's in 110 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: the car, that's cool. But I really ain't trying to 111 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: play off it and trying to get Oh imagine Dragons 112 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: fans come over here, like, y'all ain't knowing that, but 113 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about some great nigga shit on this album. 114 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: Y'all probably can't even understand. Can I cut? Yeah? Yeah, 115 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: but they probably wouldn't even understand. So I ain't really 116 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: try to play into that too hard. And I respect it. 117 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: I got much love for their fan base and everything 118 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: that they do for them, But at the same time, 119 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it's a little selfish now, I 120 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: tell you saying that you originally didn't even want to 121 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: be a rapper, and as talented as you are, I'm wondering, 122 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: you're the youngest seven, right, yeah, do you what do 123 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: you think like being the youngest of seven How does 124 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: that play into the skills that you have in the 125 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: stories that you tell. Oh, just being younger, I guess 126 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: I was very like perceptive of what's going on, you 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I kept it like, uh, just 128 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: an eye on everything around me. So I saw my 129 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters do stuff, and I'm like, I'm not 130 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: doing that, you know what I'm saying. It was really 131 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: just trying to like figure figure it out because I'm 132 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: like detached by like four or five years, so it 133 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: was kind of like when they was in college. I'm 134 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: just now going into high school. So it was like 135 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: I grew up with them, but at the same time, 136 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: I had like space to figure out who I was alongside, 137 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: like knowing, oh, these are your roots, Like you got 138 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: a little crazy, you know what I'm saying, you kind 139 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: of talented, Like you could just see your James brothers 140 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: and sisters. But I was trying to go to NFL. 141 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: You know who dreams football stuff Like, yeah, I'm from 142 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: the South, you know, we all play ball and stuff. 143 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: I was. I loved the song stars Man, and it 144 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: sounds like it was based on a true story. Yeah 145 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: you are homeless sexual. At one point I was homeless sexual, 146 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: like one homeless sexual? What is that? But the song 147 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: I think you started off by saying like, let me 148 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: stay with you for a little while. You know what 149 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean. You give the woman some dick blaa broke nigga. Yeah, 150 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: for your life. Yeah you gotta it's not as homosexual. Dang. 151 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: That's that's goal right there. That's that's a good him. No, 152 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: this is just like throughout my life, you know what 153 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was just really me going through like 154 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: the process of all these transitions from like I'm doing 155 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 1: sports and all that and then out of nowhere, like okay, 156 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: I got kicked out of school, you know what I'm 157 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: saying back to that, and I had to figure out, 158 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: like what was the next goal because I was like 159 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: going to school, I was on the Ford Scholarship um football, 160 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: and then got kicked out. You read everything. I was 161 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: think about being like a lawyer or something, because I 162 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: remember a lot of stuff and I got a lot 163 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: of like uh oh no, I just got a good memory. 164 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: You know what photography dan um And that really was it. 165 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: Bro I was just trying to figure out the next step. 166 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I ain't want to be a lawyer like that. 167 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: You got I feel like they said you gotta be tall, 168 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: like you gotta something about pathos, something about pathos and 169 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: ethos and then say like, you know what I'm saying, 170 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: you gotta be called and have your presence, and you 171 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just to that's just a certain 172 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: thing about being a lawyer. I don't know. So I 173 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: was like, damn, I gotta be taught to be a 174 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: lawyer too, so football ain't work whatever. And then I 175 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: was just like, you can wrap. All the homies all 176 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: used to say that, like us a freestyle, and it 177 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: just came to my head. Y'all the earth gage. So 178 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: I was on the arm like I said, I played football. 179 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: And it was like, bro, you're not feeling to go 180 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: to league. You're not growing on over like Jesus Christ, 181 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: how do you not take that criticism? It's like being negative. 182 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: Like I was like, you're right, it's realistic. It's my dog. 183 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: He told me the truth, and I was like all right. 184 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: He was like, bro, just start, let's wrap, let's do this. 185 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: You can really put this together. So we started Spellings 186 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: Village the Collective and that's where it started on the 187 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: grounds in Virginia, like at eight at the school like 188 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: I kicked out of and it worked out. So those 189 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: women that you would staying with you, do you look 190 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: out for them now that you throw them a couple 191 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: of dollars? No, no, sir, I got no. I got 192 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: real stuff going on, man, that you're grateful for the 193 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: roof they gave you when they at least women that 194 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: you liked or was it like I just yeah, it 195 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: won like a whole collective with women. You know what 196 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: I'm saying, ain't no community, ain't no community of pain? True? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 197 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: So it was if anybody that I do and you know, 198 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: appreciate you and you got you got, you got, you 199 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: got your Sheen Bay on that record too. Yeah, crazy 200 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: how that happened and why that record just because like 201 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: he the og you know what I'm saying, he reached 202 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: out a long time were not even reached out. He 203 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: spoke about me on a morning show. I'm not sure 204 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: which one when it was, but you spoke about me. 205 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, this is crazy. You know what I'm saying, 206 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: show me up. So ever since I'm like, I'm gonna 207 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: make it my goal to find wherever you are on earth. 208 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying it just lets you know, 209 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: like you show you my love and respect. So we're 210 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: just tapp being on different mediums or whatever. And I 211 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: was like, bro, you gotta get on this song. You 212 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I did this little beast switch 213 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: for you. I want you to get his record. And 214 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: he came through like like oh you would like he's amazing. Bro, 215 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: He's just a good, genuine, you know what I'm saying, 216 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: intelligent brother, and he only he doesn't do everything. It's 217 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: hard to get in touch with him. Yeah, that's why 218 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: I like, I stand on that. I really like appreciate 219 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: him for even like stepping into my world and is 220 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: showing me that love. And your sample missfab Booty, which 221 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: came first the verse from him or a Misfat Booty sample. 222 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: The misfat Booty sample. Okay, so that's really nice. So 223 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: I tried to put it all together, like you know 224 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, oh, I'm I'm gonna go ahead 225 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: and sample. You already showed me love, So I'm a 226 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: sampler song that mean a lot to me, just to 227 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: maybe perk your ears up, you know what I'm saying. 228 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: See what was going on? And then I'm gonna singing song. 229 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: I want to be a part of this ecosystem. I'm 230 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: trying to build you where that this whole album kind 231 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: of sounds like a movie now, in particular this on 232 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: crack Sandwich. Yeah, for sure, that's my that's one of 233 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: my favorite I love crack, I love crack sandwich, but 234 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: it's not actually a about crack sandwiches. Yeah. Yeah, it 235 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: was just brother and I was telling you I met 236 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: your brother yea Israel and Izzy, Yeah call him. But um, 237 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: we were in the Turian Too's wedding together and he 238 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: was actually my partner. He was a groomsman and I 239 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: was a bridesmaid. Cute. Yeah, it's out, but I could 240 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: see I could get a little sense of how wild 241 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: he could be. Yeah yeah, yeah, my brother, he was 242 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: in the league. He did his thing. It's a good catch. 243 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: It's a good catch. But no, no, no, uh, that's 244 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: crazy that y'all tapped in because we've been on two forever. 245 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: Like like I said, we played part. He played partaho 246 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: my brother because they older than me and we've just 247 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: been cool. So tell us this New Orleans story where 248 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: things been a little crazy and the family got arrested 249 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: all right, so boom, my brother graduating from Tulane University 250 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. We're going there for celebration whatever, whole 251 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: family there will. It was probably missing a couple of 252 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: family members because it's like seven brothers and sister. So 253 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: everybody went there. Um, I guess my sisters just a 254 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: little too lit. It went to the restroom. Something happened 255 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: in there with some girls. It got taken outside. My 256 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: sisters got kicked out. We're still in their party or whatever, 257 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: and I see through a glass window a man hit 258 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: my sister in the jobs in the job. But we 259 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: in the um VP all his football friends, like professionals there. 260 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: They all cooled my brother because you know what I'm saying, 261 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: he's the man. It was straight mayhem. We broke the 262 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: glass to everybody, like yo, no, no, no, I've seen it. 263 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: But I feel like everybody got the energy because all 264 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: the energy is going towards the door. They're trying to 265 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: not let people out, so the bouncers and stuff trying 266 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: to like stop the whole not the whole football team, 267 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: but just a bunch of like strong black men. It 268 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: came outside, broke through the bouncers, broke the glass door 269 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: down and then just like a brawl in the screet 270 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: But it was a bunch of them because we're in 271 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: the Orleans. They had about ten people. We had about 272 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: like like on the song I said, like twenty three. 273 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: We had like a bunch of people, so which is 274 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: straight melee ages everybody just fighting. It was horrible. It's 275 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: probably one of the most traumatic things I ever been 276 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: through in my life. It was teeth knocked out, blood everywhere, like, yeah, yeah, 277 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: we worked him out, We figured him out. He don't 278 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how good he's doing right now. Uh. 279 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: It was mainly my siblings, which is kind of crazy about. 280 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: It was mainly my siblings that got got um. But 281 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: we didn't really get in trouble. They knew somebody was 282 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: popular whatever. Just got out of there. It was a 283 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: cool situation, but it was not a cool situation. Like 284 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: I was seventeen, so I'm fighting like twenty two year olds. 285 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: For me, I'm seventeen. I'm about to go back to college, 286 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: my bad school on Monday. I ain't go back scrapped up. 287 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: It was all good because you don't know how to 288 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: throw them, but and you out of town. So he 289 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: was like, man, I don't know if they got guns. 290 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: I thought for sure, I thought he was gonna die. 291 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: They were screaming. They go, well, we're gonna we gonna 292 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: kid y'all gonna die to night like the wall is acting. 293 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: It was kind of crazy. Now what is your mom 294 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: saying when y'all call from jail? Um? I don't even 295 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: think it had to go that far. Only thing we 296 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: had to call nobody, you know what I'm saying. We 297 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: just moved around. It worked out. Go back to the 298 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: song crack sandwiches. Um, Yeah, yeah, that's that's the song. Yeah, 299 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: that's the song. I'm explaining the crack sandwich you had 300 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: to fight the third verse. I'm bringing back these third verses, 301 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: or at least trying to. You know what I'm saying. 302 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: It's on the third verse you got you crack Sanda 303 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: explaining the story. The first two verses I'm just giving you. 304 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm just setting the landscape or whatever. The third ones 305 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: where like everything changed. Then I started telling that specific story. 306 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: I thought that songs about poverty this whole time. It 307 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: is that is we're fighting. It's black on black stuff. 308 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: We shouldn't be doing um, But in that situation, it's 309 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: justified though it's justified the show for shore in the 310 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: crack sandwich. It just came from the hook. And then 311 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, like you know what saying. A lot 312 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: of my brothers and sisters born in the eighties, so 313 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: it was like crack yeah yeah, and then own own 314 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: the hook. I was like, I ain't got cheeseburger money, 315 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: make a sandwich sandwich yeah, so just cracking sandwich. I 316 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: just put it together because it's a bizarre ain't like 317 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: you'll never really see nothing like that. You gotta listen 318 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: to the sun. I understand now you talk about you 319 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: know how this album he says, it's a good piece 320 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: of your origin story. So I wonder, like, what on 321 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: what did you say on this album that you didn't 322 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: say on other projects? You think, Um, it's explaining how 323 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: I even got here before. It was just coming from 324 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: like it was called the nerv story, So it's coming 325 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: from a place of just like I'll probably like, I 326 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: don't know if this is a real dream. I don't 327 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: even know it's is a real thing. I made this song, 328 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: y'all like the song, but maybe this is two three 329 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: years I'd be around, make a couple one hundred thousand 330 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: and a couple of million. I'll be gone. That's what 331 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: the nerv story. But I've been here for six you 332 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm in Sciences twenty seven when 333 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: my first album out twenty seventeen. I'm in Science twenty sixteen. 334 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty two. It's a lot of people that 335 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: came and gone. I'm I finally got like one of 336 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: the biggest records of my career, and this is the 337 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: biggest album I ever drop, Like it's done, the greatest 338 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: numbers whatever. All that's cool, but it's just like me 339 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: centering myself, like all this stuff going on around me. 340 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if I was going to be 341 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: here for that long, but it's coming into like a fruition, 342 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: like a real reality around it. That's hard for me, 343 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, a lot of the 344 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: people that I grow with, my brothers, even everybody like 345 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: that I'm around, I'm the only one, like you know 346 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, in this position right now. So it's 347 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility, a lot of different things that 348 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: come with it. I'm like I said, to be youngest, 349 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: but I'm like the big little brother for me, like 350 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: that's just the cars I was in and I'll take 351 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: that like with so much respect, you know what I'm saying. 352 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: And it's humbling to a to an extant but at 353 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: the same time, like forever, story's like you can pop 354 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: you a shit to, like you can really go, like 355 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: you really could be here for a minute. I see 356 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: myself like in that in that light, you know what 357 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, kind of like tapping on the feet of 358 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: the grapes right now at least trying to you know 359 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. How is that? That's all I'm saying, 360 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: Like that's part of the reason I do this, Like 361 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Wayne was now get I'm sure people could see it. 362 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm from I'm from Atlanta, from the South, so that's 363 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: like the main inspiration. That's one of them. Of course, 364 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: Wayne under a two thousand, what somebody else? You're saying 365 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: the album Wayne under a two thousand somebody else? Jay, Um, Beyonce, 366 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: I want to be Beyonce, show Jake Yay. You know 367 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I said that too. Um. 368 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: It's just oh yeah, it's just an album full of 369 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: like now, what Kanye do you want to be? Because 370 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: I saw you tweet out that Kanye as a cracker 371 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: and you deleted it. Yeah, I call him kk Kanye 372 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: at this point, he's a fool. I'm I'm gonna let 373 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: the dust settle before I really give my opinion on 374 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: because I don't want to jump on its. It feels 375 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: like it's a lot of noise. When somebody shows you 376 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: who they all believe them. Cole was right on false prophets. 377 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm staying out the way, staying out the way, but 378 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: you got way on the album too, thought went on 379 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: the album. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that that That fucked 380 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: me up. I ain't even you know, it's crazy. When 381 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: I first got the first uh, I ain't listened to 382 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 1: it until like we start doing mixing, I was like, 383 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: this can't be real, you know what I'm saying. I 384 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: let it sit for a minute. I knew as soon 385 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: as my folks sent me to What's name I heard 386 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: the light of flick, I just turned it off. I 387 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: was like, no, sir, like I don't. As soon as 388 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: I heard I turned it, I was I don't want 389 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: to hear right now, like this can't be real. Then 390 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: we got the mix and I heard it, I was like, no, 391 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm about to come after you. You're not finished trying 392 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: to steal my songs. Yeah, so I ain't ain't re right. 393 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: I just gave him like eight after his It's because 394 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I ain't never re wrote a verse, but for that moment, 395 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: I just gave a little. Actually, that was the first 396 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: time I actually did that too. How do you reached 397 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: out before? Uh? I actually went on a small college 398 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: run with him in like twenty sixteen wow, and got booed. Wow, 399 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: the first time I ever got booed on something like 400 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: just because Bro was late, shout out to Wayne. But 401 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: Bro was late, so they was waiting on him. We 402 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: had old you I never forget older men University. I'm 403 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: still mad at you about that. I didn't even get 404 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: a chance to wrap yet. Bro. As soon as I 405 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: walked down on stage, I was I must be the 406 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: uggest need world because they just straight boot Did you 407 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: have dreds? Okay? Yeah, so they probably could have thought 408 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: it was Wayne coming out was like super late or 409 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. But that was six years 410 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: ago too, and that's a terrible set up. Somebody's late, 411 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: people waiting ye icon, and then they don't know who 412 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: you are. From a candicate you know what I'm saying. 413 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: This is when I first like dropped the song that 414 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: kind of got starting getting notoriated or whatever. Did you 415 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: keep going for sure? For Shore, I started freestyling, doing 416 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: all stuff to divert their attention. It worked out. They 417 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: booted the beginning at the end of the year. You 418 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: might have just been like, all right, then, you know what, 419 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm starting to realize just on some hip hop shit. 420 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: And because I'm from the South, so I get it. 421 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: But I always say that the most the foremost influencial 422 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: rappers of all time a jay Z, Kanye, Wayne in Tupac. 423 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 1: But a lot of people debat me about Wayne and 424 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, how, yeah, they must not felt the presence 425 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: of what was going on when he was doing his 426 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: thing and still doing it, still doing that's a little weird, 427 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: and didn't think of all allegens that he produced, think 428 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: about how he put cash money on his back and 429 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: bought cash money back to prominence. You know what I mean. 430 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: It's just like, and he's been doing it since nineteen 431 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: ninety six. Crazy when you think about it, that's crazy. 432 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: So when you when you said that on the album, 433 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I know I'm not tripping because yeah, 434 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: the idea young and you know what I mean. Sure, 435 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm thirty now, but I'm oldhead. So I really had 436 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: to step into this thirty year old man like presents. 437 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I appreciate it. I love 438 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: like Asian or Grace, yeah, black man like I love this. 439 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: And also being more successful every year. I think that 440 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: makes getting older even more fun. Damn money, yeah, exact 441 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: money making you think about when you first started, how 442 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: life has changed so many exactly exactly now, I tell you. 443 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: Also said with this album, you did it a little differently, 444 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: like the whole process of making it more like community 445 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: with people, of being around. Never doing that again, my listen, 446 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: many people in the studio, too many opainis too much. 447 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: I ain't never doing it again. I'm gonna get back 448 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: to like, not even get back because I already I did. 449 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: I execute what I wanted to ascute. But I'm not 450 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: listening to No. I gotta go in my own life 451 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: because too many years, too many what they say, cooks 452 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: in the kitchen. But you had a direction for the album, 453 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: and it was trying to take you somewhere else. So yeah, 454 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: for show, but I got in my way. I did. 455 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: It came out the way I wanted it too, but 456 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: it just took a little longer. So how'd you get 457 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: in your way? Um? Just overthinking, underthinking, or trying to 458 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: make something like perfect. Nobody makes a perfect anything. I 459 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what album it's perfect that I 460 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: could just listen to it. It maybe one or two 461 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: out there. It's just like amazing perfect. You could just 462 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: live through it everything. But I was trying to aim 463 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: for something. That's what's the point. I'm not perfect your 464 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: day when I wake up, So let me just give 465 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: you this body of work and just keep pushing. I 466 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: was kind of dwell dwelling on it. Yeah. Two of 467 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: my favorite songs on the album is bred in Him. Yeah, 468 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: insisted him break those records down for me. Um, brother 469 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: in Him is like, it's more like you know what 470 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can get like a vibe from it. 471 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: You can understand like this brothers comarad with you. But 472 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: this Susting Them is probably the most one of the 473 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: more important records on the album, just because it's a 474 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: weird situation. Definitely one of the longest, definitely one of 475 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: the longest, But it was me trying to like spill 476 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: some stuff that I'm going through. You know what I'm 477 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: saying with my sisters. We don't even really talk, we 478 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: don't funk with each other, and it still bothers me 479 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: to this day. So it's like kind of trying to 480 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: like unlayer that, you know what I'm saying, Peel bad 481 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: layers to that. In a situation, I don't really know 482 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: like how it's gonna turn up. I don't know, like 483 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: somebody gonna die, but just on some like I don't 484 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: know how we ever gonna like many this situation. What 485 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: about like around the holidays those are coming up shot, 486 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: I don't even fun with pagan holidays like that. She's 487 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: your witness. She's so deep. We ain't spoken a minute. 488 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: I don't even really know. It's it's Christianity, you know, 489 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: it's some black Southern really like religion. But we don't 490 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: really talk, so I don't I couldn't even give you 491 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: her perspeadible what she leaves. I just know she don't. 492 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: Is that a reason? Uh this industry? Oh she thinks 493 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: you like she never wanted me to do this? Yeah, yeah, 494 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: just because like she she just don't like the whole 495 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: all of it. She thinks it's like the devil side yea, yeah, 496 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And I'll be like, just listen to my music. 497 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about God, like I haven't had to sacrifice 498 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: nobody yet nah, but yeah, yeah yeah, it's it's a 499 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: weird little situation. What's interested about those features those records 500 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: is brother to them has a feature, got a little dirty, 501 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: but sisted them You kept by yourself. And I thought 502 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: that was interested because like the logical thing would be 503 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: go get a woman rap. Yeah you know what I mean, 504 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: But why do you decide to do brother them with 505 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: a feature but sisted them alone. I went through the 506 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: whole process of I was about to do that like rap. 507 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: The fact that you said rhapsody is like so on 508 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: part with my whole brand, Like I love her, He's 509 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: my favorite, so I uh. I was literally about to 510 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: reach out to her about that, but the dirt, the 511 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: dirt situation came just uh because I'm a fan's I 512 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: think he amazing. Um, I want to thug on it 513 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: as well, but mayn't work out. And then I got 514 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: moustaff for the poet doing an amazing like spoken word 515 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: peace at the end, but such of them just didn't 516 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: need it. I had enough words to dispel what I'm 517 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: trying to say. And I don't know. I hate it. 518 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: I hate I can't even listen. I don't even really 519 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: like listening to the song right, just because it's annoying 520 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: like that, ain't you don't really follow me? Like yeah, 521 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: and I don't fool you, But does anybody try to 522 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: intervene in the family and put it together? Like? Nah? 523 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: Not for real, not for real, for real, even how 524 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: the album started with the voicemail and so is that real? 525 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: Like do people really think that? No? No, no, that 526 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: was that was my old friend. I'm saying to people, 527 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: really come at you like that? Oh no, because everything 528 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: besides that wants to a situation for my everything being cool, 529 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was my football coach. 530 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: He just talked like that the everybody you don't pickle 531 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: the phone one time? He like, So that wasn't really 532 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: that serious that that was my dog co ball. What 533 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: did you learn from football that you applied to the 534 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: rap game? Oh? Hard work over talent type shit. You 535 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You can be talented, is anybody? 536 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: But he ain't working, Like you know what I'm saying, 537 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I kind of like staying study. I don't really party 538 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: that much. I don't really whatever whatever. I really like 539 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: that staying to work. It's like I said, I'm a 540 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: grown thirty year old man. Ain't got time for no kids, 541 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: no kid games. Like I'm trying to like I'm trying 542 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: to stay like I'm trying to aim for something once 543 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: I get it, probably wild. The thing I love about 544 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: guys like you know, man, it's like, Yo, you've been 545 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: in the game six years, but your music has always 546 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: had a level of maturity to it. You know what 547 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: I mean? Was that like by design just because I 548 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: feel like I came into the industry like as a 549 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: grown man, I kind of knew what I wanted, Like 550 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: I ain't really have trying to like play around, you 551 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like a lot of people say, oh, 552 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: I want to do music my whole life. So you've 553 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: been working in this since fifteen sixteen, but literally I 554 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: started him. I was like twenty two, Like, yo, I 555 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: probably can make it before I'm twenty seven. You know 556 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like if I if I if I 557 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: hit the mark, if I get in before twenty seven. 558 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna I'm gonna ride this out to we 559 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: two in two week fifty or the wheels fall off. 560 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: So I gotta go. I gotta mark, I gotta money, 561 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: mark of what I want to make from the industry. 562 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: So I always headed in my mind with how I 563 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: operating stuff like that, and it's really that forever. And 564 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: you had other options besides dream Vill Yeah, for show 565 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: for show, so it was I know, quality control, Yeah, 566 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: place you could have went to. Yeah, close to doing 567 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: that for show for show. I was about the own coach, 568 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: K's my dog, Like he was one of the first 569 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: people like, bro, you've got something like something going on 570 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: right here, and I was literally about to do that. 571 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: I think it would have worked out either way, bro, 572 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: because like I don't know, like I feel like I'm 573 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: on both sides of the spectrum. I can do this. 574 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: I could do the lyrics, but I'm still a nigga. Nigga, 575 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying at the end of 576 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: the day, Like I can do whatever needs to be 577 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: done to get the skinny cat? Is that whatever? It's more, 578 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: that's a horrible phrase. People. I've never skinned the cat. 579 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: You never gonna see a nigga skin cat gets you 580 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: up out of there? Show you how was that morning? 581 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: One way the skinny cat who did have to know 582 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: that was created by white cat skinning cat. But that's 583 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: a good problem to have when you have options. But 584 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: whether other people are coming to the table like um crazy, 585 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell all story. We was about the 586 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: sign and me and Earth about the sign, not about 587 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: to We did not. We was not about to do 588 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: it because we saw the deal we about. We got 589 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: offered a deal from rich homey Kuan for real for show. 590 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: That would have been a come up for rich On Quan. 591 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would have been a great get bro. 592 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: The deal was disgusting, though, was the disgusting? I don't 593 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: even remember it specifically, but I just remember I was like, no, 594 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't even know about that, but I know crack 595 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: sandwiches straight crack sandwiches for five years. The first person 596 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: to come at you with the deal. I feel like 597 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: it was and we were just dealing with some of 598 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: his people or whatever, So it wasn't specifically him. I 599 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: feel like at the time we haven't even met him. 600 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: I feel like he was just having his moment be 601 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: at people around like Yo, rich Homie, want of signs people, 602 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: these niggs out of a they hard. So I think 603 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: that's how they came about. I don't know. I feel 604 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: like I I made the right decision. Now you did a 605 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: great job. How did Cole happen? Um? He already knew 606 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: about Earth Game because they was popping like since college. 607 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: They already knew what was going on. So they went 608 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: on tour with app Soul and then I just came out, 609 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: popped out, did a song every night, and Boss was 610 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: on that tour part of drinking. Uh. Cole came in 611 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: one of the shows and he was like, you ain't 612 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: in the Earth Game. He's only two people. I'm like, yeah, 613 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm just dolly, you know what I'm saying. Uh, And 614 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: then said Brown. I talked about this on one of 615 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: the songs called two thousand and seven, said Brown, want 616 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: of Cold's best friends. He was always playing Cold my 617 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: stuff with me and said like we should smoke like Chill. 618 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. While he was on a tour, 619 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: he's my dog. He's playing stuff for Cold the whole time, 620 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: and Cold like bro pull up North Carolina with Earth 621 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: Game and we pulled up to the studio and I 622 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: just started barring the niggas up to death, like this 623 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: is my one chance. Somebody killed everybody and a couple 624 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: of songs came out of that that made the first album. Um, 625 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: and it was just hard like it was just a 626 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: good moment, cold, just a solid dude, like for having debt. 627 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: It's my daughter. Cole is the guy, you know, because 628 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, you can be a legend, 629 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: but your stature girls even more when you produce other 630 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: potential legends or legends right, and like, out of that 631 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: whole big three, him, Kendrick and Drake, he's got the 632 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: best roster and it's not even close game dream Sorry Lennox, 633 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: you said between him, Drake and kind they got yeah, 634 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: they got plan. I was just saying, because what's his 635 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: name is tops TD CD talk so um yeah sure, 636 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: so what is he? What is what is he doing 637 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: that you think everybody else may not be doing? He 638 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: just real into the like art of it. He loved 639 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: the music, you know what I'm saying. It's actually his label, 640 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: so he has to. If you're gonna sign off on something, 641 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: you gotta be something that you really love. Um. And 642 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: I feel like he's just real, Um, what's the word intentional? Yeah, 643 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: I kind of. I kind of think he uh tried 644 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: to see himself and some of the artists that he signed, 645 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: and I think that's just like goes all across the 646 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: board for the whole label, Like everybody probably just sees 647 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: himself in pieces of everybody, and that's like moved. I guess, 648 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: do you purposely like on the feather? So he said, 649 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want no cold features, but for 650 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: for shure, I'm it's probably gonna be like that for 651 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: a minute, so I get what I want. Interesting, why 652 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: just because you want to be seen as Yeah, like 653 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: signs dream, of course you're gonna get a cold feature. 654 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: Of course I'll take beats, but as far as like 655 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: music and stuff, it's time to separate from that. I 656 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: don't feel like he did song for jay Z's whole career, 657 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: like every album like that super goofy like and most 658 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: of the songs they did weren't that great. No, for real, 659 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: because I remember when the first song I ever heard 660 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: from Jay and Cole was mister Knight. I don't want 661 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,239 Speaker 1: to hear that. That's not what I wanted to hear. 662 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: Who had a better verse on it. I don't even 663 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: remember now, to be honest with you, yea who you got? Uh? 664 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I tried. I really don't even 665 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: remember the rec I don't remember the red because I 666 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: remember hearing it back in the day and you know, 667 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: you listen to it a few times and I'm like, 668 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: that's not what I wanted from Jay and Cole. But 669 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: the one um on whole album when we put cold 670 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: on it, Oh Stars Born Stars boring, that was like, 671 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: that was no, that was dope. That was the blueprint three. Yeah. 672 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: I just love album. Yeah, I just love And then 673 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys also have some good like 674 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: artists development, yeah somehow because I see like the progress 675 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: because I always feel like, as you go, like the 676 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: first album the second, it should always be some type 677 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: of progression. And I feel that with Ari Lennox to 678 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: a lot, like I love her album album I do. 679 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: It's amazing to me, and I think she's so heavy, 680 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: like she's so randomly that she says it was actually 681 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: my favorite that's been you know, the favorite conversation of that. 682 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 1: That's that's my favorite guest all year long, all right, 683 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: being up as funny as hell, and I love hearing 684 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: y'all two together like that. You know, my dog can't 685 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: make you change record? Yeah, that's my dog. She's so talented. 686 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: Her voices is just like timeless. You can feel so 687 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: much when you hear her voice. You can hear like 688 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: the ancestor of the spirits of whoever she used to 689 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: listen to, just all wrapped up in a one and 690 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: then she got her own personality with it. It's like 691 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: super fun and she got you talking relationship stuff and everything. 692 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. She's smart as hell. 693 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: I love the way she goes about creating her music 694 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: because I feel like she initially like lives it. She 695 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: lives it up like whatever the hell she's going through, 696 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: like she's lived that experience, which is tight to me. 697 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: Did y'all have the conversation before y'all recorded that record? 698 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: Like it was a conversation about relationship? So not really, 699 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: not really, not really. I feel like that came so easy. 700 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I feel like me and her make like music really simple. 701 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: It's not too much of a conversation. It's just like 702 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: the frequency Wonder was trying to shoot his shot at 703 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: her recently. I didn't see that. I just seen the clip. Man, 704 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: I've seen a bunch of jokes around. It ain't even 705 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: really hit on the right quick. It was making Twitter 706 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: to wild West bro. That's why I I don't care 707 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: what I say on Twitter because I'm really not like 708 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: that in person. But I just know this is just 709 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: like a lawless ground. So I was like that agost. 710 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: We all first got on Twitter. We was all like that, yeah, 711 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: but we also understood Twitter with Twitter, and it wasn't 712 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: the real world. Now I'm not sure everybody absolutely yeah, yeah, yeah, 713 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: it's a it's a different thing going on. But you 714 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: gotta tell you that with a grand off, like you 715 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying social media is we're not supposed 716 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: to know everybody's opinions. I shouldn't know how everybody feels, 717 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: but we do. So it is why did you delete 718 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: the tweet? When you call Kanye cracker, you're gonna bring 719 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: it up again. I say that he deleted it. It 720 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 1: didn't happen. I don't know if it ain't up there, 721 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: them won't know. If that, I don't know, I call 722 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: people cracking something. It's disappoint you though, right that. I 723 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: just want to plead the fifth on this because I 724 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to see how how everything play out. You 725 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: know what, if not, could we stop it slow? You 726 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: just got to you gotta keeping that it might be 727 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: the master's plan. Might be the master's plan, but a 728 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: master plan. Um, it's being a rapper. Everything you thought 729 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: it would be. Um, it's being a rapper everything I 730 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: thought it would be. Yes, everything, I expect people to 731 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: do exactly what they're doing right now, especially with what's 732 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: going on in social media aspect, every yep, do it. 733 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Everybody's just doing exactly what I aspect. That's why I'm like, 734 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm calm, you know what I'm saying, because I kind 735 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: of see, like it's kind of high school issue what 736 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But at the same time, you can change 737 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: lives and you can like really change the trajective of 738 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: your legacy and your family and all of that. So 739 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: I think that's hard about it. Like, that's beautiful to 740 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: me that people like look like us can like just 741 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: like little I love a little baby, you know what 742 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because I see, I know where he's from, 743 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: I know people like him, but the way he ran 744 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: it up, you know what I'm saying, His position here 745 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: right now like I know his family, like everything he's 746 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: taking care of. That's just like a blessing. I love 747 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: to see like situations like that, like we was. Don 748 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm say I'm from the same I'm not 749 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: from the same hood, but I'm saying I'm from the 750 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: same type struggle and stuff like that. But I don't know, 751 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: like I never really had to like seale drugs or dude, nothing, 752 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Nothing crazy, Like we got 753 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: in a little fuss ship fight, like little hood shit, 754 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: but nothing too crazy. But I understand like the struggle, 755 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: like he's really coming up from none, and that's like 756 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: beautiful to me. So that's why I appreciate the game 757 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: for what it is at the same time, But you 758 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: just gotta play, you know what I'm saying, because if 759 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: you don't play, you're gonna get played, and you play 760 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: yourself out the position. So did you ever have a job? 761 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: One job? Um? I word at Domino's Piece. Yeah, I 762 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: was horrible. I knew he was going in the high 763 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: fucking that boy up. I was horrible. Bro Let tell 764 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: you story. My dog from Earth game he named Ohlu. 765 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: I got him a job at it, so I started 766 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: working like two days, like Bro, come get his job, 767 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying with paper studio time. 768 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 1: Bro was such a studious individual. I got a notebook, 769 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: any book, Yeah, grabbed Bro, Bro, you know you host piece. 770 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: Bro went to the door to piece of like a nope, 771 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: he brought the piece off like this dog called back 772 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: like this has made Bro. We got about it. That 773 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: was the last day it works. Hilarious. You know what 774 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: I love about you and Earth Game man, You know, 775 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: because I'm born in the nineteen hundreds, right, nineteen hundred 776 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: and seventy eighth, So I grew up off outcast and 777 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: goodie mob and like that, the whole dungeon fan. And 778 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, even though I hate using this word, but 779 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: it's true. They nigga, you know what, They really conscious 780 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: black men from from the hood, and they knew how 781 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: to talk about things of socially redeeming value but in 782 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: a very relatable way. And I feel like that's the 783 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: tradition y'all are carrying on the show for Shaw, because yeah, 784 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: you gotta have like both sides of the spectrum. You 785 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: gotta know how to talk to people and you gotta 786 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: have like I don't know, I'm on. I consider myself 787 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: like a smart ass, dumb nigga whatever. Now I call 788 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: that a brilliant idiot. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 789 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: Like I know both sides of the spectrum or whatever. 790 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: Um and yeah, I love the way outcasts you do that. 791 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: Love the way like Celo and all them, like you 792 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, gilt or cool y'all, all of 793 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: them they said always have this edge. Is like, oh, 794 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: we can teach you, you can put you on some 795 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: facts or whatever, or you can get your mother an adwood. 796 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: And that duality is just like unparallel. Did you grow 797 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: up on them? Like I mean, of course you're younger, 798 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: but they put show. The brothers and sisters put you 799 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: on for a show. My brothers and sisters, like was 800 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: in love with all of my brothers have so much 801 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: of a different like uh taste, you know what I'm saying. 802 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: Some people they were listening to like old funk stuff 803 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: or or like of course outcast and all this stuff. 804 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: And then one of my sisters love like electric like 805 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: rock stuff. She was on some like the Kirtle bands 806 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: and all the real chili peppers and all that type 807 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: of stuff. So that gives you an edge when you 808 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: get to hear all the music as the baby and 809 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: the family, and then we like super musically inclined, like 810 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: my whole family like can do something well, not a 811 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: whole family, but everybody's kind of pretty smart and got 812 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: talents of their own perspective. You also took singing lessons 813 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: for show for this album, though only for this album. Really, Yeah, 814 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: you want to hit your own melodies? Yeah, Miss Beverley Johnson, 815 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: appreciate you, Miss Beverley. You killed it. Um my voice said, 816 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: got missed up. Twenty nineteen. I did like two hundred 817 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: and fifty shows. I was just torn all year twenty 818 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: twenty and then my voice was messed up. How much 819 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm getting for a show? Ye much for festivals or 820 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: like my own because it's just trying to do, trying 821 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: to watch. I'm gonna take it slow though, No, I'm 822 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: that's what I seen. I say, fifty balls somebody, Okay, okay, 823 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: yeah right now it's really disgusting though, Okay, three years later, 824 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: you know it's up. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I'm yeah yeah, yeah, right, 825 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: messed it up, just doing a lot of shows and stuff, 826 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: a lot of strength stress on it. Um, and then 827 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: after that, I took a little time off, took some 828 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: maths or whatever, got it right, and then I started 829 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: taking a single lessons just because I'm like, all right, 830 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: like this's the only way like you can It's one 831 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: of the ways you can just elevate your artistry. Already, 832 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: got like a nice voice, and I know how to 833 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 1: write so and I know what I like. I feel 834 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: like I have a great taste level of music. So 835 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: I just took a single lesson you know what I'm 836 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: saying for a couple of months, and it hit for me, 837 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: like it worked out because I got certain notes off 838 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: that I wanted to get off on the album, and 839 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: then even on the tiny desk, like I did okay 840 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: on the tiny desk, I think I did good. She 841 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: called me disgusted, cussing me out because I missed certain Yeah, 842 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: She's like, I could tell you've been smoking. You ain't 843 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: sitting there and breathe. You trying to be that I 844 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: do all this stuff that you didn't focus on notes. 845 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, please, like never leave my life 846 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: because this type of making me own that you know 847 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and holding me responsible for that, that's 848 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna keep me like going forward. I love all the 849 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: songs around sound too, yeah with Baby and twenty one Savage? Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 850 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: What is it about Dreamville that brings out guy? I 851 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: love twenty one? I think yeah, I think twenty one 852 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: too underrated as a rapper. But what about Dreamville brings 853 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: out the best in twenty one? Mean Savage from Saint Hood, 854 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: Like he's like right down the block, like Nudy Savage Room. 855 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: Like what I'm saying, I me and Nu to get it, 856 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: used to get I had could at the same place 857 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: on both Chris Flash shows. Um, So it's just like 858 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: different spectrums, different side of the spectrum, like I said. 859 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 1: And Brod's really one of the most improved and talented, 860 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: Like he's smartest hell. So with those combinations, bro and 861 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: then he worked hard, of course, you're gonna get to 862 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: the place he is right now. I think I don't know, 863 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think he's like super talented, 864 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just a gene one bro 865 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: Like everything he deserves he getting it just because like 866 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: what he's standing on or whatever, like his morals and 867 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I just try to like do 868 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: songs with people that I can morally like stand beside. 869 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I don't really like 870 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: everybody like that, But yeah, that's one of the people. 871 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: I just think he just worked with dream Ville because 872 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: just I don't know, I don't know what it is, bro, 873 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: just good energy frequencies like good people. And that was 874 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: that was a musy on the voice Malory. Yeah, that 875 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: was music on my dog. I knew means before he 876 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,959 Speaker 1: had to go te Okay, ok real east Side legend. 877 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, so I was wondering. I was like 878 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: that that I get it now. It was music, but 879 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: then it went to the song with twenty one. But 880 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it makes sense. Yeah yeah, yeah, but actually, 881 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: y'all grew up together. Are you paying attention to the 882 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: elections in Georgia? Herschel Walker and Raphael one Uck supporting 883 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: herschel Walker crazy, Bro, I've seen it. He went the 884 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: song for his campaign. Bro, I've seen it tweet it's 885 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: gonna be crazy. I've seen the tweek. I'm sure they're 886 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: saying it because the CTE say they can say. I 887 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: don't know, I say herschel Walker something my deacon eighth 888 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: grade vote for right field Warter. What wasn't some terrible head. 889 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was a joke, you know what I'm saying. 890 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: But why would you say that? Bro? I couldn't retweet it, 891 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: but I guess I just said on a breakfast club, 892 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: So it's it's out there. Why can't you vote for 893 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: him games? Why would he say that? It's like a 894 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: real Heschel Walker stands for it's opposite, Bro. I just 895 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: think it's because they say, Bro, brain Nelson a little bit. 896 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: Bro just played football for too long. Bro, He's just 897 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: like deep South. I don't I can't rock. I think 898 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: he communicate. I think he's a good communicator. Though. I 899 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: think that there's probably more people in Georgia who sound 900 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: like who who who sound like him or got family 901 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: that sound like him than they do the raf fael 902 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: Ward to the world, So I think people just like 903 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: celebrities too. Sometimes by watching him talk about things, it's 904 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, he talks street. Yeah, he's talked like he 905 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: from like gonna go yeah, yeah. Politicians can go over 906 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: your head sometimes. Yeah, he's just talking directly to you. 907 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes I connect with people. Damn. Do 908 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: you feel like a responsibility when it comes to talking 909 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: about voting and politics at all, or you just I 910 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: hate I hate all of that stuff. I hate politics 911 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I don't even like. I know 912 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: it's good form, like voting locally for your neighborhood and 913 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: all of that stuff, but when it gets to like 914 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: the higher level and all of the the don't I 915 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: don't like it, Bron't. I don't really with it, just 916 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: because of what's going on with black people and everything 917 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: I've seen since I've been on earth. Like He's just 918 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: like all conditions have not changed. It really made me mad, bro, 919 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: I really be mad as hell, like kind of like 920 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: every day what Ali Ball Alex Ball and said, like 921 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: to be to be conscious are you're aware about or yeah, 922 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: to be Negro in this country and be conscious is 923 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: to be in a constent sated rage. I know when 924 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 1: that up. But yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, I'd be I'd 925 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: be upset, and now I'll be like, Okay, what can 926 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: I do to like add a grain of saying into 927 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: this sea of change? Then we want to see music music, 928 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: and I try to speak about it. If you listen 929 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: to like Radar if this song on the album, the 930 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: second song, I'm talking real like It's kind of if 931 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: you listen to it and you see what I'm talking 932 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: about and you're like, oh, he really popping shit. But 933 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: I just kind of like glossed it up. I made 934 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: it like I threw a suit on the pig. You 935 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, because Atlanta is such an 936 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: interesting place right now for seeing how many people moved 937 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: there and then what's going on with the people getting 938 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: locked up in all of that, Like Atlanta kind of 939 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: crazy right now, Like stay inside for real? Right yeah? 940 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: Are you are you afraid to move around? I'm not afraid? 941 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: Are you cautious? I've been in my whole life, so 942 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: I know exactly how to move. I know exactly what 943 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's different for 944 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: you because there's so many people coming to Atlanta, YEA 945 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: doing all kind of I don't know how to move. 946 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: I know what's going on, you know what I'm saying. 947 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: And I ain't saying like that puts me above or 948 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: out of any danger or anything. But it's just like 949 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: that's a different level of awareness. But show just show 950 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: respect to this, you know what I'm saying, and move 951 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: around diligently, like yeah, you're supposed to do. What do 952 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: you think the single is off this record? Because I 953 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: got an idea, UM Surround first off Surround sounds the 954 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: fastest record I ever had, Go Go. We dropped that 955 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: in January he went go the Data album dropped. Wow, 956 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: So that's like one months. That was the fastest thanks 957 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: to twenty one and baby Tape, Like y'all killed that. 958 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: UM dance now has been going crazy. Yeah on TikTok 959 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: is doing crazy. She was the ground you say, was 960 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: the ground dancing? Yeah, yeah, yeah from the Hall of Nights. Yeah, yea, yeah, 961 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I was thinking money, even though that's only 962 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: because I love that sample. I think that sample is phenomenal. 963 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate crisis for that for real, you know crazy. I 964 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: was at doctor drey House. One of my dogs, Flex 965 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: Light Flex, who was there, Um and one of these 966 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: amazing producers game that beat And that's the story. What 967 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: she was doing at drey House. Was you writing working? Yeah, 968 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: we're working. We tapped in UM working on some shit. 969 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: R right, some shit. I feel like everybody knows, like yo, 970 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: one of like the best young lyricists out there, And 971 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: what happened sometimes with people like you with everybody want 972 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: to take your sauce before you get a chance to 973 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: shine on it. You know you've been doing quite well. 974 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm on their head though, on everybody 975 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: even dread all on everybody who is like number one 976 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: or number top five. I'm really only head. I'm really like, yeah, 977 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: not playing with them. So you're gonna drop again soon 978 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: forty years old? What until? I kind yeah you know 979 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: yea yeah out so on you're gonna drop another album 980 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: for the years old? Not probably not the album. I'm 981 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: just dropping music though, Okay, whether it's Lucy's, whether it's 982 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: or soth you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna put 983 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: some of music out there because I took like like 984 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: three years just like figure this project out. Like I said, 985 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: I was stepping into like my my manhood, stepping person 986 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: on him today. So I wasn't really like in a 987 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: rush for anything because I know we're in a fast 988 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: food society, you know what I'm saying. Everybody wants insto gratification. 989 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: Everybody wants the music now now now. I was just like, no, 990 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: like I'm not in that space right now, still un 991 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 1: learning and relearning, you know what I'm saying. Still stuff 992 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: going on that I'm dealing with, Like, I'm deal with 993 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: a lot of family shit, a lot of tragedies, a 994 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: lot of like good things going on. But it just 995 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: took a minute, you know what I'm saying, just to 996 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,240 Speaker 1: figure out my place in it. Because it's a crazy industry, 997 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: you know what, a lot of stuff going on. You 998 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 1: can find yourself in a million different types of situations 999 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: if you don't like keep your head level. So I 1000 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: was just trying to stay in my piece, you know 1001 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, trying to stay my bag. I'm a 1002 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: wild nigga, but at the same time, I'm I'm smart 1003 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: enough to like analyze situations and figure out what could 1004 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: be the best for my longevity or whatever the case 1005 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: may be. Whatever in the cause some things that you 1006 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: wrote when it comes to your family or things in 1007 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: your life that you were like, uh, I'm not sure 1008 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 1: if I should put this, and maybe didn't. Yeah, because 1009 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: my my sense of human pretty bad. It's pretty dark. 1010 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: So it comes in me learning how the rap came 1011 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: from a place. I'm like, Oh, I love like little Wayne. 1012 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: He says crazy things. I love how crazy eminem me is. 1013 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: I love future. I love you know what I'm saying. 1014 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: I love thug, I love Yea, I love like all 1015 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: these different type of artists. Like how do I find 1016 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: I said, y'all gotta check out that's crazy. I love 1017 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: you though, Um I don't even know who that is. 1018 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I just threw it out there 1019 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 1: because I was talking to my dogs that whatever he 1020 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: got song no no, no, no no. I was just 1021 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: listening to him on the way here. Now you got 1022 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: something out, he got something out. I was just I 1023 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: was just listening to him so that his name just popped. 1024 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: I kind of lost my point what I was saying. 1025 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: I was talking about yeah, yeah, yeah, just yeah. It's 1026 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: always stuff like that. I gotta dill it back sometimes 1027 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: because I just know how to articulate whatever I'm trying 1028 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 1: to say little music, and sometimes it just be like, noah, 1029 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: that's too much, you know what I'm saying, because I 1030 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, just be a lot. Yeah, you gotta 1031 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: think about other people, and sometimes, like you said, they'll 1032 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: be yeah, yeah, they'be at my door about that. Like 1033 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: even on this album, like my family's like, oh talked 1034 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 1: about this okay, like it wasn't nothing bad. But at 1035 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 1: the same time, Okay, that's your perspective though, Yeah, you 1036 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And and sometimes it's better to 1037 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: put it out there then y'all can have a conversation 1038 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: about it after the fact instead of like, hey, I'm 1039 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: about to do this asking provincias forgiving this type situation. 1040 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, listen, man, Jed, make sure y'all go 1041 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: check out to Forever's story. Great building with you, my 1042 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: brother likewise man, and I can't wait to hear them 1043 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: more music. And just keep keep going, man, keep growing, 1044 00:49:54,719 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: bro getting cats. Yeah, yeah, please you skin As, I'm 1045 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: gonna call you a cracker. And I don't even get 1046 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter. I don't get on Twitter. Is a cracker 1047 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: with a show? I love it. Breakfast Club