1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Saga and Crystal here. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: and we are so excited about what that means for 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: the future of the show. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: This is the only place where you can find honest 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: not exist anywhere else. 8 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: So if that is something that's important to you, please 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: go to Breakingpoints dot com. Become a member today and 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: you'll get access to our full shows, unedited, ad free, 11 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: and all put together for you every morning in your inbox. 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: We need your help to build the future of independent 13 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: news media and we hope to see you at Breakingpoints 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: dot Com. Turning out to Brad Parscale, a name some 15 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: of you may have forgotten at this point, but let's 16 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: put this up here on the screen. He was, of course, 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's campaign manager for years. He raised hundreds of 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: millions of dollars. He himself had quite a bit of 19 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 3: controversy at the time, and so what has he been 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: doing in his retirement. Well we've known this for quite 21 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: some time, but Time magazine really dug into the details. 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: Trump's ex campaign manager, Brad Parscale is running in Israeli 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: influence operation targeting the MAGA base. 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: So let me read. In case you have not heard 25 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: of any of this before. 26 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: Last September, the global ad agency HAVAS hired Brad Parscale's 27 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: firm clock Tower X to conduct a digital campaign on 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 3: behalf of the state of Israel. 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: This is according to the Foreign Agents Registration. 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: Act filings, which were reviewed by Time magazine. Under Parscale's operation, 31 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: he would produce one hundred original pieces of content each month, 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: with he aimed at least eighty percent for gen Z 33 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: audiences across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube and podcasts. In services agreement, 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: Parscale pledged to amplify the campaign across social media, integration 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: of narrative messaging into the Salem Media Network properties, and 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: aligned distribution channels, which refers to the Christian Conservative Broadcasting 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: and Publishing company where he is the chief strategy officer. 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: He vowed that the effort would produce at least fifty 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: million digital impressions per month, as well as influence how 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: AI tools such as open ais Chat, GPT, Anthropics, clot 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: and Google's Gemini characterized Israel. 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: And the war. 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 3: For all of this, they agreed to pay some one 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: point five million dollars per month. And so what you 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: can see here is that you had a nearly forty 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: to fifty million dollar ad campaign which has now been 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: running for years in the background, exclusively targeted at the 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: magabase to keep them from staying on side whenever it 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: comes to the issue of Israel. Now, we don't really know, 50 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: you know, who exactly has been ensnared in all of this, 51 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: but some of the names are at least familiar to 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: those of us on Twitter. So, for example, it is 53 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: not clear how much Brad Parscal has actually paid individual 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: influencers as part of this campaign. Other recent influenzable campaigns 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: have offered them a base payment of twenty two hundred 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: twenty two to fifty plus one dollar for every one 57 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: thousand views up to two million, allowing them to earn 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: as much as four thousand, two hundred and fifty dollars 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: per post per post. So let's say and extrapolate this 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: from Twitter. I'll just give people an example. Both of 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: us are Twitter blue, not by choice, by the way, 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: you know, It's like we were just kind of given 63 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: to us. And so I can see what my creator, 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 3: you know, output or whatever is what for all of 65 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: my tweets in a month we earn and all the 66 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: funds go to the company. It's like three hundred dollars 67 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: for every tweet that I put out. And I think 68 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: I haven't looked at the average impression or any of that, 69 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: but I'm sure it probably at least some of them, 70 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: some of the more viral ones, would meet this standard. 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: So they are paying ten times market value, so to speak, 72 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: all for pro Israel messaging, which is all being used 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: and coordinated by Power Scale, and this influence operation all 74 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: on behalf of the state of Israel. I will say 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: one noteworthy piece, as an Israeli official actually said he 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: didn't even do a good job. 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Israelis are like, look at our approval rating 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: in the US. This is not working. Like you, young 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: people hate us, whether they're on the right or the left. 80 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: So you're not what are you doing with his money? 81 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: It's not working? 82 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: Right, So at least you know one you know, funny 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: karmic thing in here is that the Israelis are bitching 84 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: that they didn't get enough value for their money and 85 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: paying So yeah, I mean, okay, Brad Parscal got. 86 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: Really rich, so that's good. Good for him. 87 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: Buy a couple more mansions in South Florida, but it 88 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: is still noteworthy because it reveals how there are so 89 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: many people who and usually the ones accusing us and 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: others of being Katari agents, who actually are on the payer. Now, 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: I'm not going to stay on the payroll of a 92 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: foreign government because it's laundered. You know, it's like, oh, 93 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: to an American thing. But ultimately the cash, if you 94 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: were to trace it back, would be to the either 95 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: the Israeli government or some friends of the Israeli government. 96 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: And more importantly, it's inorganic, like in terms of what 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: they're posting, and usually it's the people who have the 98 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: most vicious accusations. It's really a confession the very people 99 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: who want to actually use Tucker Carlson or our show 100 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: or other. 101 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 4: Yeah. 102 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: I just had this recently. It's like your pro terror 103 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: funded media outlet. And you know, I often just want 104 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: to be like, okay, let's both of us, will it 105 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: independently audited our tax returns. Let's see who's got money 106 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: coming from a foreign because it ain't me. I can 107 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: guarantee you that you know and all, they would never 108 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: put up with any of that. 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it is very it's first of all, 110 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: what a sleazy guy like so disgusting, and it really 111 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: does you know, we're about to place a JD Vance 112 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: club on Joe Rogan, Like it really is aimed at 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: undercutting the negotiations and any sort of potential diplomacy process. 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: Immediately after the MoU was signed, you saw all of 115 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: these right wing influencers. We don't know technically whether they 116 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: were all paid or not, but a bunch of them 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: similar language attacking the MoU, saying it was a disaster 118 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: for the US. You know, all this very coordinated looking 119 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: messaging coming from the right wing influencer community. But also 120 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: you know, I think like this is one very important vector. 121 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: I need you guys to understand how much of messaging 122 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: in the right wing media influencer space is paid for. 123 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: Like there was another instant, remember we covered it when 124 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: there was all of a sudden, this very coordinated messaging 125 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: around some soda issue. 126 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 5: They talk about this in Time magazine. 127 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: You'll see things like that pop up where you're like, 128 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: what where did this come from? Or there was this 129 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: coordinated attack on Harley Motorcycles that appears to have been 130 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: funded by their competitor, and you all of a sudden, 131 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: had all of these right wing influencers who were like 132 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: deeply passionate about how Harley Davidson has gone woke, which 133 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: was preposteros, like based on literally nothing. But you'll see 134 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: this and I'm not going to say there's none of 135 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: that on the left, but I can tell you it's 136 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: not the same. 137 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 5: It genuinely isn't. 138 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: You had a whole scandal about the Chorus, you know, 139 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: influencer community. 140 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 5: That was a thing, But I'm telling you you do 141 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 5: not have. 142 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: The same level of expectation that you can just buy 143 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: people and they this is commonplace, it accepted among the 144 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: right wing media influencer class. We interviewed Kyle, and I 145 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: interviewed Ashley Saint Clair elon Musk's X paramore yeah X 146 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: all of this, and she was talking about how, yeah, 147 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: she'd be in these group chats and this is just 148 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: how it works. 149 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 5: So when you had that scandal. 150 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: Involving Timpoole and some other influencers who were like getting 151 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: the shady money, they were like, what's the problem. 152 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 5: Everybody does this. This is just normal. This is how 153 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: we operate. 154 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's really wild, but people need 155 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: to understand that what you're seeing on Twitter, or the 156 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: content that's being produced, video content that's being produced that 157 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: is not necessarily just coming because of their neutral analysis. 158 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: Oftentimes there is someone behind the scenes who has a perspective, 159 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: has an interest, who is paying them to say what 160 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: they are. 161 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I've been on the receiving end of this. 162 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: So if somebody called me and said, I know you 163 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: really are passionate about sports betting, would you be willing 164 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: to post against a sports betting piece of legislation? I 165 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: was like, well, I was like, I don't accept money 166 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: for posts. Just tell me about it and maybe I'll 167 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: post about it or not. I don't get paid for 168 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: Twitter for anything, you know. And and I go wait 169 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: out of curiosity because I would love to meet this 170 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: person who is paying to lobby against sports betting legislation. 171 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: And they said, oh, well, we're working for the prediction markets. 172 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, so the prediction markets are 173 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: paying people to lobby against legal sports betting so they 174 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: can be the only option. That's that's the level of 175 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: scumbaggery which is happening out there. Of course, I just 176 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: said no, I don't want you any I don't want 177 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: your blood money. 178 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: Basically. 179 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: I also didn't even end up posting about it just 180 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: because it's so skeevy and so disgusting. 181 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: But that's a perfect example. And then you know, the 182 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: way that they. 183 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: Justify this stuff is there's always like like soda, They're like, oh, 184 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: who cares, Okay, sure, I'll take a few dollars here 185 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: and there. At one point I saw there was this 186 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: whole scandal over India, like the government of India or 187 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: somebody had been paying these influence or some firm on 188 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: their behalf because Indians were under attack by a lot 189 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: of these like you know, groiper types, and so a 190 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: bunch of these right wing accounts are posting on behalf 191 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: of India and then they got attacked and they deleted 192 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: an apology. I know this all may sound, you know, 193 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: a little bit byzantine, but this really does matter in 194 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: terms of taste making I think on the right wall. 195 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: And that's why it's important. 196 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: Yes, and especially now you have you know, it's a 197 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: wild wild west in terms of journalism and media, which 198 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: in some ways is great. That's why we exist, right 199 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: It's enabled our ability to create the show and reach 200 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: an audience and all those sorts of things. But don't 201 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 2: leave your media analysis behind. 202 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 5: Right. 203 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: We all understand, or viewers of this show, I think, 204 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: understand the way that corporate media is in flat fluenced 205 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: by their advertisers and by access journalism, by the sort 206 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: of journalists that they even select to be at those organizations, 207 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: and who's able to succeed and rise to the top. 208 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: Like we understand all of that in a lot of ways. 209 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: In the in quote unquote independent media ecosystem, the incentives 210 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: are vastly worse because, at least at corporate media, there 211 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: was a line between the people who were stelling YouTube 212 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: you're fired, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you caught for taking direct 213 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: like corporate money or from any sort of interest and 214 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: then providing a viewpoint based on that, you would be 215 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: out the door here. 216 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 5: It's just commonplace. 217 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: It's just become an accepted part of the ecosystem to 218 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: have this sort of direct undisclosed pay for play. So 219 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: it was, you know, this is an important story obviously 220 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: because of how consequential the decision in making around the 221 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: Iran War is ultimately and so it was interesting to 222 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: hear Jade Vance talking to Joe Rogan about this and 223 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: the bands of course was the one who sent out 224 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: to do the negotiations and was trying to present to 225 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: Rogan this idea that like, oh yeah, we're bombing him again, 226 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: but I promise we're getting back to the negotiating table. 227 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: We'll see if that works out. In any case, he 228 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: had a lot to say about this foreign influence operation 229 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: that is being run to undermine the negotiations. 230 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 5: Let's take a listen to that. 231 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 6: But I definitely think you have seen this very discreete 232 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 6: extremely well funded campaign to try to derail the negotiation 233 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 6: and try to derail the deal. You know, there was again, 234 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 6: there's this time article that came out yesterday. A friend 235 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 6: send it to me. It's like worth reading because it 236 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 6: lists a bunch of people who have quite literally been 237 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 6: paid by a former Trump campaign person who was himself 238 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 6: paid by certain elements within the Israeli government. And those 239 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 6: people are attacking me viciously for quite literally trying to 240 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 6: accomplish the negotiation objective that the President's set for the country. 241 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: So what is their position, like, are they're attacking you how? 242 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 6: Oh, it's it's social media posts, it's you know, they're 243 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 6: leaking to reporters. They're attacking me obsessively saying that we 244 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 6: should not be negotiating with Iran. We should just keep 245 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 6: the military campaign going indefinitely. Let's say certain elements of 246 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 6: the Israeli government want to criticize the deal or have 247 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 6: disagreements about the deal. I don't even mind an effort 248 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 6: to try to influence. You know, foreign governments try to 249 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 6: influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel 250 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 6: does it, other countries do it. 251 00:11:59,320 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: It's just sort of. 252 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 6: The nature of the beast. What bothers me is actually 253 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 6: when Americans allow, meaning American leadership allows that influence to 254 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 6: affect their judgment and to affect what they're advocating for. 255 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: So let me just point out that his boss took 256 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: how much money from Mary Mandelson for campaign? 257 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 5: And then you have the audacity to be like, oh, the. 258 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: Money and the influence, it's like the influencing politicians. That's 259 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: what's really terrible. I don't know, that's a lot for 260 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: me to swallow. 261 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: Fair, I will say. 262 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: The reason why, I mean, it's kind of interesting that 263 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: you would call it out in the first place. The 264 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: reason why is I think is I don't think he 265 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: would if it weren't actually influential on his ability to 266 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 3: negotiate and within the administration, because I can tell you 267 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: how this all works. It's all happening right now because 268 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: Jad basically just said the same stuff on Rogan they 269 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: alway says about Israel. It's like, look, I mean, look 270 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: at that, and this is why it's so tortured and 271 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: why am I opinion The proseral position just ultimately has 272 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: to collapse, So you have to twist yourself in a 273 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: nons of like I don't even mind if the tries, 274 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: you know, every other country tries. It's like fucking Estonia 275 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: is not trying as much. Estonia does not have nearly 276 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: as much influence. 277 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Did you know we have. 278 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: More of a legal responsibility to protect Estonia than we 279 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: do Israel. 280 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Do people even know that? 281 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: But I think both the nuts just so you know, 282 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: but you know, just in terms of the level of influence. 283 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: My point around this is those posts are all you 284 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: and I know how this works to the extent. 285 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: That I tweet it all because I really don't much anymore. 286 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: I only really do it to either either put an 287 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: opinion out there like for fun like weed or Daylight Savings, 288 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: or to influence the debate in the White House because 289 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: I know that these posts gets surfaced and passed around 290 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: and group chats and others to influence the debate against 291 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: each other. That's why Laura Lumer does what she does. 292 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: That's why she's out today attacking Joe Rogan, Mark Levin, 293 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 3: Randy Fine, and just to show you all how. 294 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: It's online administration to incredibly advance is really like the 295 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 2: pinnacle of that online nature. I mean, that is really 296 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: how he developed a lot of his view and became 297 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: prominent in the right wing media ecosystem space. 298 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what I mean, Yes, he rode the online 299 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: space to the Senate and arguably, I would say to 300 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: the Vice President and largely you know, that's what set 301 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: him apart from a lot. 302 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Of the other people who were GOP politicians. 303 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: What I find fascinating though, is, let's put this one 304 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: up here on the screen from Randy Fine, the senator 305 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: from or the sorry, the congressman from Tel. 306 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: Aviv aka Florida. 307 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: But here he says, Randy Fine is now told White 308 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: House officials he will vote against every rule on the floor, which, 309 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: just so you know, rule on the floor is like 310 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: how you bring legislation. So this is a major pain 311 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: in the ass for Mike Johnson and for the GOP, 312 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: because what this means is that they will have much 313 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: more difficulty advancing legislation, especially when you have such a 314 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: narrow majority that's in the House of Representatives. What he 315 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: says is he'll vote it until Trump fires Alex bruce Witz. 316 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: Brucewitz and name some of you may not know. 317 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: He was kind of the podcast whisperer of the Trump 318 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: and Trump campaign in twenty twenty four. He was the 319 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: one behind the Yvonne Joe Rogan, the Andrew Schultz interview 320 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: like a lot of stuff which you say whatever you want. 321 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: It obviously worked tremendously to Trump's benefit and kind of 322 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: set a cultural vibe of Donald Trump ahead of the election. 323 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: Bruce Witz has been one of the people who has 324 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: been most vociferously attacking the Brad Parscale or not even attacking, 325 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: pointing out a lot of these pro Israel influencers are 326 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,479 Speaker 3: all being paid off and saying you're undermining the administration. 327 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: How dare you not trust Donald Trump? So Randy Fine 328 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: finds it so important to fire this person who is 329 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: just elevating the fact that pro Israel influencers are being 330 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: paid and that Parscale himself is being paid that he 331 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: is going to vote against every piece of legislation until 332 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: bruce Witz is fired by the Trump by Trump as 333 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: an advisor. We don't know how long and how far 334 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: this is going to go, but I just do think 335 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: that this is incredibly noteworthy for how he sees the 336 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: you know how Randy himself, of course, one of the 337 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: most pro Israel piece you know, one of the most 338 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: pro Israel politicians in the GOP, he sees this so 339 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: as vital to his influence operation. And this has now 340 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: been endorsed by Mark Levin, who's like, great job, you know, 341 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: Randy fine. So you can see how for them they 342 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: find Twitter and like the battle of ideas there that 343 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: takes place as well as here in podcasts so important 344 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: because what they need is to elevate this and show 345 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: that there's actually more backlash against diplomacy than there actually is. 346 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: Because if you're going to actually ask the American people 347 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: or do you support diplomatic effice war, they're like, yes, 348 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: of course, no question right. And for Trump, because he's 349 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: such a blank slate, they always try to use They 350 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: attack JD whenever they can attack Trump, or they use 351 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: Trump to attack JD and this is all part of 352 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: what's going on right now, and it's very noteworthy. 353 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 5: This is a separate issue. 354 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: I think Fox needs a big problem for declomacy too, 355 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: because they're still beating the drums of war. It's like 356 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: the one thing that they'll be critical of Trump on. 357 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: But I also want people to understand it's not just 358 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: like Twitter influencers. Brad Parscale is the chief strategy officer 359 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: for Salem Media, which has all sorts of properties. They 360 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: have a whole radio network, they fund a podcast network, 361 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: they fund town Hall, Red State, Hot Air, PG Media, 362 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: They've got all this Christian content. They even fund some 363 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: like financial publication. So it's a large conservative media network 364 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: that Parscale is the chief strategy officer for, and overtly 365 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: in his contract he says he pledged to amplify the 366 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: campaign across social media and through integration of narrative messaging 367 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: into Salem Media network properties and aligned distribution channels refer 368 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: into the Christian Conservative Badcasting and Publishing company where he 369 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: serves as chief strategy officer. It will not surprise you 370 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: that our own Ryan Grimm confronted Scott Jennings, who is 371 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 2: part of this Salem Media Network over the foreign Israeli 372 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: ties and how that might influence his commentary that he 373 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: offers on his show. 374 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 5: Let's go ahead and this is E two. Let's go 375 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 5: ahead and take a listen to that. 376 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 7: As a student, be as critical as you want, really 377 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 7: of the United States, you just can't be critical of Israel. 378 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 7: And also, and this is not personal the but there 379 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 7: is so much kind of money pouring in to push 380 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 7: us in that direction, even Salem Media where you do 381 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 7: your show, right, Brad Parscale, who is the chief strategy 382 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 7: officer there is a registered foreign agent for the Israeli 383 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 7: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Like this is an American I 384 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 7: think it's American, right Salem. Yeah, it's an American media 385 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 7: company whose chief strategy officer is a foreign agent registered 386 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 7: for the state of Israel. Let's thirty percent of this 387 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 7: company is owned by Lara Trump and Don Trump Junior. 388 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 7: Like what so before we're talking about like who you know, 389 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 7: what is America? 390 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 8: Who? 391 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 392 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 7: Who should be an American? It's like, or can we 393 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 7: as Americans discuss this? 394 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: Let's get Scott's response. 395 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 9: Yeah, so you you seem to have some issue with 396 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 9: Israel having a presence in the United States, or even even. 397 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 7: On American I think we should be sanctioning even yes, 398 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 7: even on American universities. I think they should be sanctioned. Yes, 399 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 7: do you I think it should be I think I 400 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 7: think it. I think it should be criminal for an 401 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 7: American media company to take money from the Israeli Ministry 402 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 7: of Foreign Affairs, because I think they should be under 403 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 7: sanctions for what they did in Gaza. 404 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 9: Do you believe that American universities should be taking money from, 405 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 9: say Cutter. 406 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: If we want to do a broad around human rights. 407 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 9: You seem to have singled out one country because put 408 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 9: by the way, as an ally of the United. 409 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 4: They committed a genocide. Uh Cunter a lot of human 410 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: rights problems. 411 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: There a lot of. 412 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 9: Universities all about Arabia. Universities all of this country do 413 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 9: take Katari money. I'm asking you internationalism beyond Israel. 414 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: I'd be okay with banning that too. 415 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: They always they always. 416 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Say, I know, they always think the Left isn't kind 417 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: of willing to condemn Saudi Arabian's, Like we're the only 418 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: people who cared about the genocide they were. 419 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: Committing in Yemen. 420 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Go look at you know, the content that we do 421 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: about Ua and Sudan. But they always think that, oh, 422 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: they only care about Israel because I think they buy 423 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: the nonsense that it's based on anti Semitary and there's 424 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: not any sort of principal view around. Hey, we don't 425 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: want our tax dollars going to a genocide. We don't 426 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: want to see genocide committed. 427 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 5: Period. 428 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: I've had this hit so many times. They're like, Qatar 429 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: must be paying him. The Katari government hates me. Roll 430 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: the footage from our show during the World Cup where 431 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: we were talking about all of the abuse of their 432 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: migrant laborers and how corrupt they were. I was afraid 433 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: I might get arrested whenever I had to do when 434 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 3: I had to transit through Doha. 435 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, they're gonna pay me some money just what 436 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: to speak out against Israel. It's a joke. It's just 437 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 438 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: That's all these people have, you know, it's all they 439 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 3: ever will last thing. We're just going to have a 440 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: small shout out here to al Yah Kobe, the friend 441 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: of the show. 442 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put him up here on the screen. Four. 443 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: He is one of the people who is named in 444 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: this article. 445 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 5: In fact, I think. 446 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: He's the only one, yeah, that was specifically like this. 447 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 5: This one guy is definitely on the take. 448 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: So he he got very upset with Time magazine because 449 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: he disputed that he had been paid by Influenceable to 450 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: combat anti Semitism. But he does confirm he has worked 451 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: on Influenceable campaigns, according to a company official. Yeah, Kobe 452 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: did not say that he was paid to combat anti Semitism. 453 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 3: He did, however, say that he had not post anything, 454 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 3: but he didn't already believe. However, as you and I 455 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: both know, even simply being paid to post opinions, you know, 456 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: is a way to basically prop them up inorganically. Ours 457 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 3: are completely and totally funded by a mass audience of 458 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: millions of people. So yeah, I mean sometimes you say 459 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: things that people don't agree with, etc. People can cancel 460 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: the members if they want, prefer you don't, but if 461 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: you want to, I guess you can. But it's not 462 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: a direct like nobody this is my favor. And they're like, oh, 463 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: he's posting this wheed Pharma's paying him. I'm like, oh, yeah, 464 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: for sure. I would adventure to say the weed stuff 465 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: has probably cost us more money in the long run 466 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: than anybody who's ever signed. 467 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: Up for it. I don't give it shit. But that's 468 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: my point. 469 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: Just we are paid, you know, and supported by the 470 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: show because people believe in the mission. They are being 471 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: directly paid inorganically outside of any like real market force, 472 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: by either the government, the companies, or whatever. And that's 473 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: fundamentally is undemocratic because it makes them more overrepresented in 474 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: political discourse than they actually deserve to be. 475 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: And this is why does this matter. It's not just 476 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: my influencers. 477 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: They set the tone for the GOP members of Congress 478 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: and for all of these other people who are in 479 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: the White House and the administration others to make them 480 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: think this is a much more popular position. 481 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: Than it actually is. 482 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, And like, if you're being paid for something, then 483 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: you and. 484 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: You should disclose it, right, you should. 485 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 5: Absolutely disclose it. But just in terms of the way 486 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: that works. 487 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: Because I believe him that he genuinely holds horrific genocidal views. 488 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 5: I actually believe him in that. 489 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys remember he's the one 490 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 2: who came to fame as like a college student crying 491 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: about anti semitism and demanding of safe space and really 492 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: helped to launch the anti Semitism, woke turn on the 493 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: Republican right. But in any case, I believe him that 494 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 2: he genuinely and sincerely holds those views. But you know, 495 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: if you're being paid to post, then maybe you're going 496 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: to post at a time when you wouldn't have otherwise. Maybe 497 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: you're going to go further than you would have otherwise 498 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: and try, you know, so you can get that engagement, 499 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: so you can get a larger paycheck. It even with 500 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: someone who has those views, it distorts and changes their incentives, 501 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 2: and it also creates a situation. You know, people can 502 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: talk themselves and all kinds of things if their paycheck 503 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: depends on it. So maybe things that you know on 504 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: him or another influencer wouldn't have justified. They can talk 505 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: themselves into because it's financially beneficial to them. 506 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 5: So it's sick, it's sleazy, and it's far far too common. 507 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: So appreciate Time magazine digging into and exposing at least 508 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: this one node, and then the fact that it's Trump's 509 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: former campaign chief who is now directly at times at 510 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: least depending on whether Trump is in a pro peace 511 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: or a pro war mood that day, but is at 512 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 2: times directly undermining what Trump is trying to do. 513 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 3: I agree, all right, Oh I haven't done this in 514 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 3: a while, Crystal, What are you taking a look at? 515 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 6: Well? 516 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: Taco Bell is now being investigated for potentially contributing to 517 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: the horrifying spread of the Cyclospora parasite, which has caused 518 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: a surge in explosive diarrhea. That illness can drag on 519 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: for weeks. It has already put dozens of people in 520 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: the hospital. Here's a report on that investigation, they say. 521 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday that 522 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: investigators have identified a likely epidemiological link among cyclostspor bass 523 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: cases in at least four Midwestern states Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, 524 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: and Kentucky, marking the agency's clearest public indication yet that 525 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: many of the illnesses are connected by a common source. 526 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: Cases have been identified in at least thirty four states, 527 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: and additional confirmed illnesses could continue to increase through the 528 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: end of August, according to officials. For their part, Taco 529 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: Bell has voluntarily pulled some ingredients like lettuce, cilantro, and 530 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: guacamole from the menu in certain hard hit locations as 531 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: the search for the source of the parasitic spread is investigated. 532 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 5: Now. 533 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: Some people afflicted with cyclosporiasis say they never ate at 534 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: Taco Bell, and the report does acknowledge that no specific 535 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: Taco Bell nexus has been identified, so honestly, who. 536 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 5: Knows so far. 537 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: Though states are reporting roughly seven thousand cases, with a 538 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: particularly severe concentration in the Midwest, federal reporting is way 539 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: behind the state totals. For a sense of the scale 540 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 2: of the outbreak, Though Michigan typically reports forty to fifty 541 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: cases for an entire year, this year, they've already identified 542 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: more than thirty seven hundred. Nationally, the CVC logged twenty 543 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: seven hundred cases in all of twenty twenty five. 544 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 5: We have more than doubled that in It's only mid July. 545 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: State data suggests we've already blown past the previous all 546 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: time hive about forty seven hundred cases set in twenty nineteen. 547 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 2: What's more, all of these numbers are likely a significant 548 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: undercount because plenty of people seek care at home never 549 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: reported to the authorities, and also because testing for cyclist 550 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: spora is actually more difficult than other passage pathogens. One 551 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: confirmed patient described weeks of gastro intestinal hell, in which 552 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: she was so severely afflicted at times she could not 553 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: move from the confines of the bathroom. 554 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 8: No, it was pretty bad. 555 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 5: It was. 556 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 9: It was bad. 557 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 8: It's embarrassing how bad it was. 558 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 5: It was really bad. 559 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 8: Were there were moments where I was literally just camped 560 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 8: out in the bathroom and like, I don't care, I'm 561 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 8: just going to lay on this floor. And there was 562 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 8: like one night and I'm not a vomitter. One night 563 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 8: I did have an episode of just like it was. 564 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 8: That was actually the turning poorer. Wow, was like the 565 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 8: next morning, I'm like, Okay, we're going to the emergency 566 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 8: room because I remember calling and my baby came in 567 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 8: and she's like, what do you need. I was like 568 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 8: something for me to get this out in, so she's 569 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 8: bringing me a trash can. And it was pretty bad. 570 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 5: It was bad. 571 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 8: It's not for the week, I'll tell you that. 572 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 5: Not for the week. 573 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 2: Contemplating this horrifying fate, all for the crime of indulging 574 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: in a crunch wrap, you may. 575 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 5: Be asking yourself, why has God forsaken us? 576 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: Well, turns out fault lies not in the stars, but 577 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 2: in ourselves, or at least in the wretched government we 578 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: decided to elect For some reason, in their enthusiasm for 579 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: government destruction, the Trump administration decided it would be a 580 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: great idea to just stop requiring active surveillance for cyclospora 581 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: along with a host of other food borne illnesses like listeria. 582 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: In fact, now monitoring is only required for two pathogens 583 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: that salmonilla and E. 584 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 5: Coli. 585 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: Let's consider the irony here. We're devoting endless resources to 586 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: building the human tracking panopticon, but when it comes time 587 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: to surveil and track explosive diarrhea causing pathoge and suddenly, 588 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: apparently I don't have the funds. This is all unfolding too, 589 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: amidst the backdrop of massive workforce cuts at the CDC 590 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: and across all of health and Human services. The CDC 591 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: alone is lost about a quarter of its workforce under 592 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: Trump two point zero, including key experts among the agency's 593 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: disease detectives. Maintaining the previous surveillance regime would not likely 594 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: have stopped the outbreak, but the fact that it's spreading unchecked, 595 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: that the federal data is lagging way behind the state data, 596 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: and that no source still has been identified That all 597 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: speaks to the detrimental impact of all of these cuts. 598 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: Former CDC communication staffer Sarah Boham, she was terminated in 599 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: the first wave of DOGE firings back in February twenty 600 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: twenty five. She described the toll here as generational. The 601 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: harm that's going to come to people that don't even 602 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: know what CDC was protecting them from. But this is 603 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: just the tip of the iceberg lettuce. Sorry, couldn't resist 604 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: that one. How would you also like little flesh eating bacteria? 605 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: Maybe malarial reintroduction. How about a screwworm infestation or an 606 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: unmitigated bullet catastrophe. Did you vote for explosive diarrhea and 607 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: a resurgence of the measles? Because also impacted by the 608 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: pathage and surveillance cuts was a little guy called Vibrio. 609 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: Vibrio is a flesh eating bacteria causing serious illness icee U, hospitalization, 610 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: limb amputation, and even death in one of five cases. 611 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 5: It is spreading more widely. 612 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: Now due to the impacts of the climate crisis at 613 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 2: the same time that the trump edmin is undercutting our 614 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: ability to track and to study it. In fact, the 615 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: National Science Foundation began dismantling the deep Ocean monitoring network 616 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: critical for predicting the sorts of conditions in which Vibrio thrives. 617 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: The program was explicitly targeted by Project twenty twenty five, 618 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: claiming that the data was fueling climate alarmism. Now, let 619 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: me ask you, do you think it's climate alarmism to 620 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: want to know a little something about flesh eating bacteria. Fortunately, 621 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: outcry from Congress did lead them to reverse those original plans. 622 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: But moving on from the CDC, we got a significant 623 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: screw worm spread, causing chaos and the cattle industry. This 624 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: parasitic blowfly had been around dedicated in the US. Now 625 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: it's back, and unfortunately for beef enjoyers, the USDA unit 626 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: responsible for fighting it, the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, 627 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: lost two thousand and nine employees under DOGE. That is 628 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: twenty three percent of the entire service. USDA overall shed 629 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: roughly twenty thousand workers in a single year. Now, Agriculture 630 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: Secretary brookroledge, she claims that the idea Doge caused this 631 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: could not be further from the true truth. She instead 632 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: blames Biden and illegal immigration. She has, however, failed to 633 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: provide any evidence of this claim. USDA's own report, though, 634 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: estimates a Texas outbreak could cost the state one point 635 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: eight billion dollars. Meanwhile, if we look overseas, we can 636 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: see the impact of our global aid cuts on disease 637 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: prevention around the world. There is, for example, a particularly 638 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: bad outbreak of a bullet in the Democratic Republic of Congo. 639 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 5: It's one of the worst in history. 640 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: In fact, experts say that has been worsened by USAID 641 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: cuts and US withdrawal from the World Health Organization. Quote 642 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: without the same amount of funding from USAID, the International 643 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: Rescue Committe, which partners to deliver frontline health surveillance and 644 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: outbreak preparedness activities in Congo, curtailed its programs. Funding cuts 645 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: have left the region dangerously exposed. Heather reach kerr IRC's 646 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: country director for Congo, said in a statement, we are 647 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: now here monitoring airports make sure we don't end up 648 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: with an abola outbreak here at home. 649 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 5: Let's hope that all works out. 650 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, experts are also warning that those same global health 651 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: cuts could lead to a reintroduction of malaria on US soil. 652 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 5: After eradicating that back. 653 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty one, the CDC issued updated guidance warning 654 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: that we are susceptible to reintroduction, which is not hard 655 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: to predict when you slash the programs that contain malaria abroad. 656 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: We've already had a local outbreak of malaria which was 657 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: contained back in twenty twenty three, so this risk is 658 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: in fact very real. Turns out, guys, you can't just 659 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: run around to the chainsaw acting programs you don't know 660 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: about and don't understand without some potential negative consequences. You 661 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: can't make it your stated goal to make life so 662 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: miserable for government workers that they all retire without losing 663 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: a few genuine experts who really actually mattered may have 664 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: been also particularly irreplaceable. It will take years just to 665 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: assess the damage that was done in the government destruction 666 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: feeding frenzy. It turns out all those people are tax sellers, 667 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: were paying for all those programs we knew nothing about 668 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: that were just running in the background, tracking, researching, coordinating, preventing. 669 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: Some of those at. 670 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: Least were really pretty important, at least to those of 671 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: us who prefer to order their food without having to 672 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: play what one Twitter user described as poo poo roulette. 673 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: Let's consider the irony here though in public health, the 674 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: actual technical term for tracking pathogens is disease surveillance. That's 675 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: what food Net was the program they cut, and it 676 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: turns out that's the one and only kind of surveillance 677 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: this government has ever wanted. Less of endless money for 678 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: watching you and not a dime to watch the parasite. 679 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: So Saber that is that is my take. Yeah, your 680 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: thoughts on the potential Taco Bell next this year, it's 681 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: pretty weak. I just want to say, in fairness to 682 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: Taco Bell, they are looking into it, but some of 683 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: the people who got sick didn't need it time. 684 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: Literally, just yesterday, my wife was going to make salad, 685 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: She's like, should I make the salad? 686 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, make the salad. 687 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: I'm like, you're that kind of a guy. Yeah. 688 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: I'll mean, look, I've got an iron stomach, I've spent 689 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: a lot of time in Asia. I think I'll be 690 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: all right. But so I ate the salad. We'll see, 691 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: We'll see if it works out. I mean, from the 692 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 3: Doge thing, I think. 693 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been so long, so we even talked 694 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: about Doge. 695 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 3: Ultimately it came down to we got to it's the 696 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: same Republican trap of all time. 697 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: We want to cut spending. 698 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: We don't want to touch the military, and we don't 699 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: want to touch entitlements. 700 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: There's seven percent of the federal budget left. 701 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: Most of it is stuff that most of us like, 702 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: like the Noah hurricane guys who fly into the middle 703 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: of a hurricane, or a US control yeah, air traffic control. Nonetheless, 704 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: we still want to cut x billion, so we got 705 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: to cut something. So yeah, this is the type of 706 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 3: stuff that you end up cutting and you have no 707 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 3: real idea. It's kind of a sledgehammer approach to the government. 708 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: And meanwhile, every saving of DOGE would be wiped out 709 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: if the Trump administration simply passed their quested NDAA budget, 710 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 3: which would increase the budget to one point five trillion. Yeah, 711 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 3: every dollar that was allegedly saved will go to funding 712 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 3: some BS weapons manufacturing company. So ultimately, yeah, this will 713 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 3: be their legacy. And actually we warned about it at 714 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 3: the time with there air traffic control. I remember, I go, 715 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 3: if you have any even single airplane crash, and like 716 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: you literally are on the hoo for it. So congratulations, 717 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 3: And you know, I think you're not even the first 718 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 3: person to draw this conclusion. I've seen it spread across 719 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: social media about how people are upset by these types 720 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: of things. In fact, this is the type of stuff 721 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 3: people want to see their government do and not increase 722 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 3: their military budget by wall. 723 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 724 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing is. 725 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: You know, we joked about this on a Friday Show, 726 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: when we're talking about the screwworm, like it sounds like 727 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: studying the mating habits of the Mexican screwworm or New 728 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: World screwworm, I think is what it's called. Sounds like 729 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: a caricature, the sort of wasteful government spending. The Fox 730 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: News would be like, this is ridiculous, why are we 731 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: doing this? And then lo and behold, you actually did 732 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: one layer deeper, and you're like. 733 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 5: You know, that was kind of important. 734 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: We should have probably kept doing that because now the 735 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: entire beef industry, the cattle industry in Texas is genuinely 736 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: at risk. We talked to, you know, expert on Texas 737 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 2: politics who really emphasized to us how much we're talking 738 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: about the Texas Center race, how much the screworm situation 739 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: is like a genuine wild card in terms of what 740 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: could happen in that Senate race. Because the the economic 741 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 2: impact is massive, and then the cultural impact is massive too. 742 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: We are a beefeeding country. You know, we already have 743 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: beef prices that have skyrocketed. If you start having genuine shortages, 744 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: which is a possibility, that's going to really hit Texans 745 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 2: very hard. So in any case, you know, it would 746 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: have been nice. I'm sure there is government waste, fraud 747 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: and abuse. 748 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 5: Which could be cut Soger. 749 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: It's all the Pentagon. 750 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: We could if you cross the river as seban and said, 751 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: go to the Pentagon, you could find some, you know, 752 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: throw rock and find some if you you know, even 753 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: in terms of medicare fraud, we've got you know, we've 754 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: got members of the Senate who could tell you all 755 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: about that and. 756 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: What about legalized to go? 757 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 3: But like literal league fraud in medicare the fact that 758 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: they can't negotiate drug prices on the. 759 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: Top of the Yeah, that's fraud. That actually is it? 760 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 3: What I know when I every time I see my 761 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: Fika and I think about that, it fills me with rage. 762 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that we're overpaying for drugs, Yeah, for 763 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: no reason. It's literally anyway. 764 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: But I think we're you know, we're just at the 765 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: beginning of the process of finding out what were the 766 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: things that they destroyed that actually were useful and were 767 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: preventing genuine harms. So, in any case, a lot of 768 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: learning things the hard way in this country at this point. 769 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: Apparently all right, thank. 770 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 3: You guys so much for watching. We appreciate it. The 771 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: Friday Show for everybody tomorrow, so they'll see you then.