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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: It's a very special Monday here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and uh batting down

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Speaker 2: the hatches. Everybody, get your weighted anchor system ready to

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Speaker 2: roll because stuff is flying all over God's creation here

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Speaker 2: in Western New York. My dog was a nervous wreck

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Speaker 2: last night. She thought the house was coming down and

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Speaker 2: just kept bugging us the whole night.

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Speaker 1: The topic for the show today is who's got the

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Speaker 1: biggest tree fell over? I think I win.

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Speaker 2: You probably do.

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Speaker 1: I got a white pine in the back of my

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Speaker 1: house or the side of my house that it was

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Speaker 1: one hundred feet tall. It was absolutely one hundred feet

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Speaker 1: tall anymore, and it's not anymore. It's laying down and

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Speaker 1: the root, the root pile that came up with it

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Speaker 1: because it came over a windstorm. The trunk broke and

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Speaker 1: the root pile came up all of one I don't know,

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Speaker 1: don't ask me. And so so I've got like a

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Speaker 1: nine feet I've got like a nine or ten foot

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Speaker 1: tall root wow plate or whatever you can. You know,

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Speaker 1: the ball came up and the tree is you know,

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Speaker 1: is big around you can't reach around it, and it's enough.

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Speaker 1: The thing weighs like nine tons. I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: have a you know, crew come in, but up.

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Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah, it's gonna be a pretty penny.

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Speaker 1: It's not really urgent. The last fifteen feet or so

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Speaker 1: behind his house. Yeah, so he didn't.

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Speaker 2: Care, and he's not an imminent threat to anything.

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Speaker 1: There's no urgency to it. But letting it lay there

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Speaker 1: and rot is not an option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I found a number of articles that did not

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Speaker 2: belong to me in my front landscaping this morning. I

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Speaker 2: found a toy that had gotten thrown out in the garbage,

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Speaker 2: like a toy helicopter.

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Speaker 1: I'm not joking.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they tried to fly it

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Speaker 2: in that thing, but anyway, you know those green shrub

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Speaker 2: covers that people drop over the shrubs in the winter.

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Speaker 2: Inherited one of those and a couple of other items

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Speaker 2: that I just threw back in the trash because it's

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Speaker 2: garbage collection day in our neighborhood, which is not good

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Speaker 2: because cans were just getting blown over, you know, like

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Speaker 2: toothpicks last night, and you know you're sleeping at night

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Speaker 2: and you're.

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Speaker 1: Here boom, yeah boom.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, there's another can.

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Speaker 1: Let's I had to rake my driveway because of all

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Speaker 1: the disticks. I had a tree, a dead tree in

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Speaker 1: the front, go over and it fell through and then

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Speaker 1: and you know how, it's brittle, so it crackled and

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Speaker 1: broke apart. So all that blow and it fell through

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Speaker 1: another a different white pine that you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like you need the forestry service to

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Speaker 2: show up and get some work done.

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Speaker 1: I need some forest gnomes to come in fix me up.

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Speaker 2: It always seems like the windiest days are garbage day

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Speaker 2: for my neighborhood. I don't know why this happens. This

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Speaker 2: is the second time this winter alone that this has happened.

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Speaker 2: I told you the other time. I was driving to

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Speaker 2: work before pickup had happened, and so cans had blown over,

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Speaker 2: chock full of god knows what. And I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: I was like Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the movie. Yeah, like stuff is flying

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Speaker 2: by my car. The giant swathed some cardboard just it

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Speaker 2: was bananas. And I mean last night wasn't as bad,

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Speaker 2: but I got whipping as we from sixty degrees this morning.

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Speaker 1: I got up, it's fifty six. It's now thirty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's gonna be minus one with the wind tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: What I think this qualifies feels like twenty bike spring two,

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Speaker 2: fake spring deuce. Yeah, Okay, we'll see if we have

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Speaker 2: a fake spring three. I'm hoping we probably.

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Speaker 1: Won't, but well, we probably will. Well, it's gonna get nice,

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Speaker 1: We're not. I'll say this. I know we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: Why would you do that? Well, I didn't even take

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Speaker 1: I had stuff I wanted to do and I needed

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Speaker 2: From when we get snow, we know who to blame. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm anticipating that you've got big shoulders. You can handle that.

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Speaker 2: What it is, it's officially March Mad this week here

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Speaker 2: in Western New York. Steave eight teams coming to Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Let's go eight teams. I cannot inhding top seed in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, amazing, And now the game. Congratulations on your Johnny's.

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Speaker 2: Yes, back to back Big East champs. They should have

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Speaker 2: got the four seed they got job by the committee,

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Speaker 2: the way and won the SEC title, moved up a

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Speaker 2: place from five to four. I don't know why Saint

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Speaker 2: Johns didn't after they waxed Yukon by twenty in the

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Speaker 2: championship game. Well there you go, squad one win Like,

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Speaker 2: help me out.

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Speaker 1: I have to. I have a a confession to make

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Speaker 1: as well. You know how I You know how I

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Speaker 1: feel about other sports other than football. I haven't watched

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Speaker 2: Well, that puts you in very good position.

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Speaker 1: That's not my confession to set up the perfect The

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Speaker 1: confession that I have to make is one that goes

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Speaker 1: against everything that I know and believe in. I did

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Speaker 1: watch a little bit of the semi final Dominican Republic

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Speaker 1: USA games last night. I did sit down and watch

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Speaker 1: a little bit of baseball last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron Judge with the defensive play of the game.

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Speaker 1: That throw he had rope threw in from right field

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fernando Tattoos tried almost tries to go first to

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Speaker 2: third on a base hit to right and Judge scoops

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Speaker 1: I think he was out by a step and a half.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean he got gunned down.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't closed, got tagged on the face of

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Speaker 2: I have to say, the thing that still amazes me

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Speaker 2: in how far they can throw a baseball. Now, I've

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Speaker 2: but I remember as a kid marveling at it watching outfielders.

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Speaker 2: Do you know base long toss? You know, in between

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Speaker 2: half the outfield here, How does he He's just tossing it.

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Speaker 2: He's not even like crow hopping and winding up.

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Speaker 1: He's short hopping it.

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Speaker 2: Let me throw at three hundred feet. It's like I

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Speaker 1: Right that and that throw by now, Judge comes in

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Speaker 1: from right field, He's got a running start, scoops in

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Speaker 1: And it was a great throw. The thing that got

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Speaker 1: me about that game last night was the electricity in

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Speaker 1: not once, have I ever heard a baseball game with

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Speaker 1: It's not even close in Dominican. And the players, I

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Speaker 1: I've never in my life, not once, not in the game,

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Speaker 2: Cause you know, they put a Yankee playoff games, they put.

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Speaker 1: A pitch count. They put a pitch clock on baseball

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Speaker 1: because it was taken forever to play. It was an

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Speaker 1: years and years. Now they got a pitch count. It

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Speaker 1: keeps it moving a little better. But I have never seen,

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Speaker 1: and I know I've seen, I've seen Yankee playoff games

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Speaker 1: and watched them, watched the broadcast. Nothing like that. Nothing,

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Speaker 1: Not a home Yankee game, not a Game seven, not

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Speaker 1: when Jeter came down from shortstop and threw the backhander

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Speaker 1: to the plate. Nothing, No game was ever like the

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Speaker 1: one I saw last night against the Dominican Republic. In

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Speaker 1: the United States, it's a slow, quiet sport, and last

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Speaker 1: night it harkened back to the you know, the forties,

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Speaker 1: it was unbelieve. I wasn't alive then, but I can

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Speaker 1: only guess I've never seen a game with that much

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Speaker 1: was it was pretty cool, like I admit, pretty cool,

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Speaker 1: all right, And you know you had you had some

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Speaker 1: and every guy was out there, full throttle, let's go.

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Speaker 1: It was something else. It was really something else.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's it's well known that the Dominicans

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Speaker 2: can hit as good as anybody. Where the Americans had

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Speaker 2: the edge was in pitching particular games. Yeah, yeah, particularly

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Speaker 2: relief pitching. That's where the Americans have the edge on

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Speaker 2: the Dominicans. So we'll see who are they playing? Are

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Speaker 2: they playing Japan?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know are they still playing? I know

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Speaker 1: that was a semi final. Is there another game?

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Speaker 2: I think it's Japan in the final.

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Speaker 1: Japan had the extent of my interest has been revealed.

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Speaker 1: There are they deed? What tame is? When don't that

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Speaker 1: game take place?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, it'll leave Venezuela winter.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh it'll leave Venezuela. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's a beat. So they were playing Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: I guess they lost. Venezuela is no joke either. They

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Speaker 2: love baseball too, so yeah, that's How about the Italians, Well,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of American guys of Italian descent playing

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Speaker 2: on the team that play in the majors. The manager's

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Speaker 2: full blown Italian.

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Speaker 1: Did he speak English a little bit? I love that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. I want to see him go

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Speaker 1: out to the official and argue using nothing but his hands,

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Speaker 1: just gesture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he may very well do that.

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Speaker 1: That is that is such a stereotype. I apologize.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, it's not inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: It's would be great. I love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So NCAA tournament's coming here. Games start on Thursday, and

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Speaker 2: then the winners of those games play on Saturday. And uh,

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Speaker 2: you got to give the early social media check mark

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Speaker 2: to North Dakota State Steve alma mater of one Phil Hansen.

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Speaker 1: Pretty clever, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Got embrace it man, North Dakota coming to Buffalo to

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Speaker 2: play hoopy North Dakota State Bison, Let it go.

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Speaker 1: And home they're the home They're automatically the home team.

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Speaker 2: Not well, I don't know about that, but not for nothing. Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 1: That is a total Morgan State, not Howard.

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Speaker 2: That's my play guy, HB Man, they got, I got.

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Speaker 2: They used to be the Blackbirds, and I can't remember

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Speaker 2: Island University Sharks Sharks. Not that there are many patrolling

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Speaker 2: It's like a point eared elf.

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Speaker 1: It's like a blue Shrek kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: The Saint Louis Billickins.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was right. A paladin is a holy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but good job by North Dakota State for embracing

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there you go. It's there's a lengthy list

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, he's probably Wave three of free agency now.

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Speaker 2: Draft this year it's in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh. We'll start spending the dial towards Pittsburgh and they'll

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be like there's still some pretty

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Speaker 1: This year.

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Speaker 2: get to be notes. The Bills reportedly have added another

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Speaker 2: becoming readily apparent to me that Jim Leonard wants guys

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Speaker 1: Yeah you want to. Leonard was a safety himself, and

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Speaker 2: and looks like the Bills are going to be his

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Speaker 1: The room was empty except for Cole Bishop was by him,

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Speaker 2: So the other Bill's news because I think Buffalo is

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Speaker 1: Has no interest in playing anymore football for San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Right, basically sat out for thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Right, he's he is, he's washing his hands of the Niners,

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy basically forfeited about thirty million dollars

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Speaker 1: So that's that's some pass.

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Speaker 2: That's something that will raise a red flag for other

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's there is a bit of other news

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Speaker 1: that would open up.

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Speaker 2: Because I think some people are like, oh, he's just

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Speaker 2: retiring to circumvent the rights the Bill Bill have to him.

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Speaker 2: But the Bills wouldn't lose his rights if the contract

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Speaker 2: doesn't toll.

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Speaker 1: He can't. He can't do that because you can imagine

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Speaker 1: what would happen if, say, for instance, Josh gets to

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Speaker 1: the end of his rookie deal and retires for a year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the contract doesn't and he comes back as a

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Speaker 1: complete free agent. So yeah, you're not kinna that that's

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Speaker 1: not possible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. One of our listeners was kind enough to pass

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Speaker 2: along the World Baseball Classic schedule Venezuela and Italy tonight

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Speaker 2: winner plays USA in the champions Yeah. I so there

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 1: I gave you. I gave the impression that I was

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Speaker 1: invested in that I'm not, but thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty much very much. I'm pretty much done with

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Speaker 1: the baseball.

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Speaker 2: So now we are up against the clock here, so

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Speaker 2: we are going to take a break, but not before

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Speaker 2: we tell you your topic at hand for the show today.

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Speaker 2: How much did the Bills first week of free agency

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Speaker 2: move the needle for you? And you can throw in

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Speaker 2: the Dj Moore trade as part of the list of

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Speaker 2: acquisitions to weigh in on. We know that they added

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Speaker 2: Dj Moore, a number one receiver, and then they went

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Speaker 2: heavy defense with cornerback d Alford, defensive end Bradley Chubb,

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Speaker 2: defensive back CJ. Gardner. Johnson reports of signing safety Geno

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Speaker 2: Stone and then the backup quarterback Kyle Allen back for

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Speaker 2: his second stint with the Bills. What does the Bills

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Speaker 2: first week of working free agency do for your hopes

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Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty sixth season. You let us know

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Speaker 2: at One Bill's Live on the tweet sheet. I promise

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have a phone number at some point in

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Speaker 2: time for you folks to call in again. We miss

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Speaker 2: hearing from you, but we'll get that squared away as

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Speaker 2: soon as technically possible. But in the meantime, hit us

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Speaker 2: up on the tweets sheet at one Bill's Live and

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Speaker 2: we'll get to your comments next. We'll take a break

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Speaker 2: and be back with more. Stay tuned, all right back

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Speaker 2: here on Onet of Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you on a Monday, a windy Monday, where we

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Speaker 2: are asking you and you can respond if One bills

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Speaker 2: Live on Twitter, how much did the Bills first week

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Speaker 2: of free agency move the needle for you? So you

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Speaker 2: let us know on the tweet sheet and we'll get

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Speaker 2: to those in just a second. Going to quickly whip

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Speaker 2: around the NFL Presented by Kalida Health, official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. Jets swung another trade this morning, Steve,

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Speaker 2: I heard they have moved quarterback Justin Fields in a

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Speaker 2: deal with Kansas City, New York receives a twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: seven sixth round pick from the Chiefs. The Jets have

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Speaker 2: also agreed to pay seven of Field's ten million dollars

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Speaker 2: salary this season, so the Chiefs get a backup QB

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Speaker 2: for three million on their books. Fields could open the

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Speaker 2: season as the chief starter if Patrick Mahomes is not

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Speaker 2: yet ready to return from a torn acl suffered at

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Speaker 2: the end of last season.

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Speaker 1: So we're we're bouncing this trade around Brownie and the

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Speaker 1: troll Room. So Fields and there's no and I said

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Speaker 1: this to you, there's no possible way Fields could play

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Speaker 1: well enough at the start of the season to bench

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. Right, what happens now? The Chiefs signed uh

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, Super Bowl MVP from correct Seattle Seahawks, good

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Speaker 1: running back. Obviously, what if they draft Jeremiah Love from

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Speaker 1: a Notre Dame the running back, get two running backs

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Speaker 1: and they just run the ball with Fields until Mahomes

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Speaker 1: is back on the field.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Love is in the cards for that team.

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Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are gonna either take an offensive

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Speaker 2: lineman because they're picking ninth I think or eleventh or

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Speaker 2: something liman. They're gonna take an offensive lineman or a cornerback.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Pick a corner.

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Speaker 2: Their secondary was ompletely stripped, bear three guys like they traded.

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Speaker 2: McDuffie lost Jalen Watson in free agency. They lost Brian

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Speaker 2: Cook their safe who's there are he and McDuffie Are

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Speaker 2: there two best defensive backs? They're all gone. They even

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Speaker 2: lost Josh Williams their fourth corner and free agency they

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Speaker 2: need a corner, desperately, desperately.

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Speaker 1: Well, the guests we're gonna have on today, Dalton Wasserman,

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Speaker 1: he has the Chiefs that the way freur agency is

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Speaker 1: at the current moment, because they we still got a

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Speaker 1: month again before the draft. They're gonna take He's got

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs taking Let's see what is it? Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Manser Delaney. They could get him there, so that would

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Speaker 1: makes sense up perfectly for them.

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Speaker 2: They have to get a corner because they don't. They

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Speaker 2: don't have anybody. They had nobody left.

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Speaker 1: They're like the Bills at safety two a week ago.

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Speaker 1: Now the Bills signed like what three guys now?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, in case you're wondering, Steve, the Jets QB

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Speaker 2: room now looks like this, Gino Smith, Brady Cook, and

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Speaker 2: Bailey Zappie. Go get him.

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Speaker 1: I cannot. I cannot get my mind around Gino Smith.

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Speaker 1: Going back to the Jets.

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Speaker 2: He was in the EJ Manual Draft. He was the

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Speaker 2: second quarterback off the board after EJ in round two.

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Speaker 1: I can't get over it.

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Speaker 2: And now thirteen years later he's back with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: A good friend of mine is the offensive coordinator with

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Yep, I am spoken to him. I can't talk.

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Speaker 1: I can't call him. I don't know what he said.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Frank, congrats on the job.

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Speaker 1: Now listen, he's a great coach. I love the guy.

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Speaker 1: He's he's as smart as they come, and he's and

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Speaker 1: players love him. And I don't know what to say

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Speaker 1: to him.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to be a lightlift for him. I

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Speaker 2: think that's fair enough.

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Speaker 1: To say from where Gino was, you know, thirteen years ago,

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Speaker 1: and obviously it went up and smoked with the Jets

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Speaker 1: and one of his own teammates broke his jaw because

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Speaker 1: he was such a dike. He was a he was

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Speaker 1: complete donkey. So now he's come full circle. He's experienced

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Speaker 1: a lot, and he's been humbled a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: So I get all that he's a completely different guy

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Speaker 1: thirteen years later, as a lot of us, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are, but he, you know, Geno at that

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Speaker 1: point of his career was the exact antithesis of what

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Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator was as a player, you know, just

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Speaker 1: the consummate teammate, smart, articulate, wasn't as physically gifted as Gino.

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Speaker 1: You know, played for a long time in the league,

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Speaker 1: and Gino has as well. But I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: they both I think if they if there is a

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Speaker 1: place where they can both connect. No, I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: Frank Wright and Gino Smith. It's in their their evolution

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Speaker 1: as a player from the beginning of their career to

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Speaker 1: the end. And now Frank is a coach, coming full circle.

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Speaker 1: So I'm it's interesting to me. But man, oh man,

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe the Jets. Well, it's a completely it's

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Speaker 1: a different world. I get it. I can't hear you

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Speaker 1: giv me like you can believe it like there's nobody

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Speaker 1: else well, like you couldn't go make a move for

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Speaker 1: Kyler Kirk Cousins. I think Cousins, to me, would be

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Speaker 1: a better fit. But here's the thing, with all the

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Speaker 1: intangible stuff.

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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty seven draft class is supposed to be

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Speaker 2: a banner draft class at a number of positions, including quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and right now the Jets have three first round picks

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Speaker 2: in the two twenty seven draft. Three So it's my

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Speaker 2: belief that Darren Mougi, the general manager, has convinced Aaron Glenn, look,

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Speaker 2: let's run it. Let's run this offense with a veteran

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Speaker 2: quarterback this year.

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Speaker 1: Build up around. Here's what they do, should prepare.

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Speaker 2: For a quarter draft, a quarterback twenty seven draft, and

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Speaker 2: then we'll get this thing back on the ascent. So

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Speaker 2: I think this year is very much a punt year.

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Speaker 2: They'll try to win some games. I think they'll be

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Speaker 2: hard pressed to get to like six seven wins, but

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Speaker 2: they'll give.

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Speaker 1: It a go. They'll picking fifth, sixth.

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Speaker 2: And then they'll have three.

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Speaker 1: Besides, they can parlay those and move up the three

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Speaker 1: wherever they want. Right So that to me, I think

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Speaker 1: that's their plan. Going forward.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of punting on twenty six in the hopes

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Speaker 2: that they get their franchise quarterback twenty seven. Other news

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Speaker 2: around the league, the Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas Goddard were

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Speaker 2: able to hammer out a deal over the weekend to

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Speaker 2: hold on to the tight end for a ninth season.

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Speaker 2: It's reported to be a one year deal worth up

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Speaker 2: to seven million dollars. By getting the deal done, the

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Speaker 2: Eagles avoided a dead cap hit of more than twenty

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Speaker 2: million that would have come when Goddard's contract expired today.

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Speaker 2: Goddard and the team had agreed to push that void

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Speaker 2: dat back multiple times while they worked on the new

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Speaker 2: contract details, delaying when he would officially become a free agent.

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Speaker 2: So they got that accomplished. And look, I'm already tired

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Speaker 2: of seeing all the talk shows talking about AJ Brown

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Speaker 2: getting traded and not traded with All you need to

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Speaker 2: know is this. If they trade him now, it's a

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Speaker 2: forty three million dollar cap hit. The Eagles can't do that.

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Speaker 2: He's going to get traded post June first. That's what's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen if he gets moved at all, that's right,

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Speaker 2: So that's probably how it's going to work out, because

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Speaker 2: it's a much more cap friendly implay Cason by trading

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Speaker 2: him after June first. If they're gonna move him, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a post June first designation.

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Speaker 1: So there is the is the is that an indictment?

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about AJ Brown, that debacle over there, that

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Speaker 1: trade him, not trade him. He's unhappy. He's reading books

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines week after week after week. They always

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Speaker 1: did a postgame interview with him, and he had to

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Speaker 1: dodge and manipulate, you know, and try and get around

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Speaker 1: the hard question of why he wasn't being utilized. Is

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Speaker 1: that an AJ Brown problem? Or is that a Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts problem?

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Speaker 2: It's both right because from what I have heard about

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is he is a very aloof player who

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Speaker 2: really doesn't engage or interact with any of his teammates

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Speaker 2: really in any way, shape or form. He might as

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Speaker 2: well be some hermit that came out of hiding and

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00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: walked into the locker room. I mean, you see the

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00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: relationship building that Josh Allen does here in Buffalo, Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts comes as close to being the polar opposite of that.

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Speaker 2: From people that I have spoken with that cover the

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Speaker 2: team in Philadelphia, which may sound surprising to some because

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Speaker 2: to his credit, he has won in a lot of

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00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: places in the college level. He has a Super Bowl title.

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Speaker 1: He was also bench twice.

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Speaker 2: He's very aloof and not the kind of Jalen likes. Jalen.

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Speaker 1: He got bench for Tua in the National championship game

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Speaker 1: in Alabama. That's when Tua and Brian Dabole called the

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Speaker 1: winning shot and Tua won the game in the second half.

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Speaker 1: Things like that followed him and he's but he is

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Speaker 1: not by all right, aside from what you just said.

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Speaker 1: He's not a bad guy. No, he's just he's just

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Speaker 1: a vacant.

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Speaker 2: Keeps to himself, doesn't build relationships with teammates, which is

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00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: kind of weird for the quarterback positions. It's almost a prerequisite,

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Speaker 2: like you have ever and.

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Speaker 1: The guys won a world championship, so.

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Speaker 2: He had one of the best rosters and for sure,

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Speaker 2: but including a defense that was ridiculous.

656
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Speaker 1: It's for a sport, and I talk about it all

657
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Speaker 1: the time, for a sport that commands so much commitment physically,

658
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna it hurts to play right and

659
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: to command that of its players, and then to have

660
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Speaker 1: a player who's so prominent on your squad not acknowledge

661
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Speaker 1: that for his team and not let him know that

662
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Speaker 1: he's in a you know what I mean? Yeah, man,

663
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Speaker 1: that's that's dysfunctional. It borders on dysfunctional.

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Speaker 2: I think that's part of the reason you see the

665
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Speaker 2: problems that cropped up last year for that Eagles team,

666
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Speaker 2: which I think, by most accounts, underachieved last year. Atlanta

667
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Speaker 2: free agent wide receiver Darnell Mooney is reportedly signing with

668
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Speaker 2: the New York Giants on a one year deal worth

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Speaker 2: up to ten million dollars. When he signed a big

670
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Speaker 2: free agent deal with the Falcons a couple of seasons ago,

671
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Speaker 2: but his production dropped by more than fifty percent this

672
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: past season, doing part to an unsettled situation at quarterback.

673
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Speaker 2: He was released in a cap savings move by the

674
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Speaker 2: Falcons last week, and quarterback Trey Lance agreed to re

675
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Speaker 2: sign with the Chargers to continue serving as Justin Herbert's

676
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Speaker 2: backup in LA. It's a one year deal worth just

677
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Speaker 2: under seven million dollars. And then from the interesting files,

678
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Speaker 2: Atlanta free agent offensive lineman Elijah Wilkinson, who signed a

679
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Speaker 2: free agent deal with the Arizona Cardinals last week. Following

680
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Speaker 2: the news of his signing, the ex Falcon got into

681
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Speaker 2: a social media battle with Atlanta fans and blasted his

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Speaker 2: former team and now since deleted comments. The thirty one

683
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Speaker 2: year old responded to fam criticism with harsh words about

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Speaker 2: his time in Atlanta, where he typed quote good luck

685
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: with that clown show over there, and in a follow

686
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Speaker 2: up comment, he reportedly wrote, Lol, y'all in hell right now,

687
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Speaker 2: have fun being bleep next year. Those comments were since deleted.

688
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Speaker 2: This is where an agent sees in his social media

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Speaker 2: feed one of his clients and goes, oh, dear God,

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Speaker 2: I gotta call this guy. What is he doing? You

691
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Speaker 2: don't want to burn bridges.

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Speaker 1: That's correct, But.

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Speaker 2: My son, who went to college at Georgia, has a

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Speaker 2: lot of buddies that are Atlanta born and raised. In

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Speaker 2: our Falcons fans, he said, they are crying a river

696
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: right now based on how the off season has gone,

697
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: because and look, they have new management, new head coach,

698
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Speaker 2: a lot of new stuff. But let's just say Atlanta

699
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: fans aren't bullish on their fortunes for this year. But hey,

700
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Speaker 2: in the NFC South still because usually a four horse.

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Speaker 1: Race for the contender eight and eight. You're gonna have meeting.

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Speaker 2: Look at it.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a meaningful game of week eighteen. You

704
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: can goodness great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's the situation there. Not the best

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Speaker 2: move by mister Wilkinson, but he's not the first and

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Speaker 2: he won't be the last.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: People can't resist. They can't tap in the thumbs on

710
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Speaker 2: their phones and social media.

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Speaker 1: You can't. Somebody says something that bothers you and you,

712
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Speaker 1: they can't resist. They go not age. You can't. You

713
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Speaker 1: can't do that.

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Speaker 2: We do have to take a break here, but we

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Speaker 2: will get to your comments on the tweets sheet where

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Speaker 2: we are asking you today how the Bill's first week

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Speaker 2: of free agency move the needle for you? If at

718
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Speaker 2: all about the Bill's twenty twenty six fortunes coming up

719
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Speaker 2: this fall. You let us know at one Bill's live

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Speaker 2: on Twitter and we'll get to your comments when we return.

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Speaker 2: Stay where you are, we'll have those for you.

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Speaker 4: Next drive back here on one of those live Chris Brown,

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Speaker 4: Steve Tasser going to dive right into the tweets sheet

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Speaker 4: where we were asking you today.

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Speaker 2: How did the bills first week of free agency, move

726
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Speaker 2: the needle for you, Jim Kelly Fan leads us off

727
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: and says, we took some steps in the right direction,

728
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Speaker 2: but there's further to go. Nose tackle seems like a

729
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: big need still an interior linebacker. I like what we

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Speaker 2: did with the secondary, though, wouldn't mind another wide receiver either. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Steve and I were talking about this last week. We

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Speaker 2: thought safety would be addressed, and boom it was. I'm

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Speaker 2: curious to see if they addressed nose tackle with a

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Speaker 2: veteran player with proven production in this kind of a system.

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Speaker 2: I think Dj Reader is still out there, the nose

736
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Speaker 2: tackle who played last year in Detroit. He's thirty one

737
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Speaker 2: years old, but the dude is a load and he

738
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Speaker 2: plays that position well. I think I've told people that

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Speaker 2: Eric Wood, my broadcast partner on the Bills Radio Network,

740
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: had to play against him as a young player and

741
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: said he was a headache. That guy was a headache.

742
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Speaker 2: Couldn't move him. Like Steve says, these guys are like

743
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: tree stumps. You can't dig them out of it. That's

744
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: what you need at the at the tip of the

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Speaker 2: spear on this defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would agree wholeheartedly with this tweet. Nose

747
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: tackles a problem where you know they're gonna sign some

748
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Speaker 1: interior guys and down them right down the middle of

749
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Speaker 1: your defense. It's a nose tackle. Inside linebackers and safeties. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've addressed the safety issues to a large extent. They may,

751
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Speaker 1: you know, they may sign another one. I don't know,

752
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: but you can see the process coming and they got

753
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Speaker 1: They went earlier for the safeties and they're waiting on

754
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Speaker 1: the interior linebackers and the nose tackles. Maybe they will

755
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Speaker 1: draft one and sign one both of each of those positions.

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Speaker 1: Stand up linebacker off the ball, a MAC or a

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Speaker 1: mike linebacker. Yeah, and the nose tackle. They're gonna they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have those guys on the roster. Where they're gonna

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Speaker 1: come from is the question.

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious how they line up the guys that

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Speaker 2: they have right now, Like does Terrell Bernard take the

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Speaker 2: mic linebacker position because he played mike in the four

763
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Speaker 2: to three system or the four two five system, or

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Speaker 2: does he play week inside linebacker where he played in

765
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Speaker 2: college in a three fourth bailor. And then on top

766
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Speaker 2: of that is Dorian Williams playing the other inside linebacker

767
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Speaker 2: position alongside Bernard because your other options right now are

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Speaker 2: Joe and Riesen and I'm pretty sure that's it. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got some future free agents on the

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Speaker 2: roster too, but that's the long and short of it.

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Speaker 2: So we got an inkling in numbers perspective.

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Speaker 1: We got an inkling into what might happen going forward,

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Speaker 1: as you know, you got these guys changing their numbers.

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Speaker 1: You know, Rousseau is now fifteen, not fifty. This is

775
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Speaker 1: after like was this his sixth year, Yes, so he's

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Speaker 1: changing it, which means he he may play with his

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Speaker 1: hand off the ground at outside linebacker because of the

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Speaker 1: number change, you're not allowed to have a team's number

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Speaker 1: as a defensive lineman. And he's been playing you know,

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Speaker 1: outside end on a in a four to three. So

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Speaker 1: that gives you some inkling is that they might have

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Speaker 1: some plans for him that are different than what we

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Speaker 1: might have anticipated when the change was first made. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a lot of questions that have

785
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: to be answered here and just the signings and the

786
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Speaker 1: it hasn't answered any of them except the fact they're

787
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Speaker 1: filled out a roster. What their plans are for these

788
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Speaker 1: guys remains to be seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because at outside linebacker you now have Rousseau Solomon,

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Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb, and Michael Hoyt depending on when he's ready

791
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Speaker 2: to return, and that's a big if, and what he

792
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: looks like is a big if. Also playing at an

793
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: explosion type position, you know, like outside linebacker. So I

794
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: think they're going to still have to get some reinforcements there.

795
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: Maybe you get another veteran free agent and you draft one.

796
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Speaker 2: I'd be inclined to take one in round one because

797
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Speaker 2: you don't know what Michael Hoyt is going to be

798
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: capable of giving you and when I think eventually, but

799
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Speaker 2: is he gonna be ready for the start of the

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Speaker 2: regular season. You don't know. At least now you don't.

801
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Speaker 2: You're too far out number one, and the rehabilitation is

802
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: long and arduous number two. So I think there's a

803
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Speaker 2: lot of question marks there. And more importantly, you look

804
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: at the outside linebacker contingent. Greg Russo is not a

805
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: speed rusher, Bradley Chubb is not a speed rusher, and

806
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Speaker 2: Javon Solomon is not a speed rusher. They're all power rushers.

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Speaker 2: Speed to power that is the game of all three

808
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Speaker 2: of those guys. Hoyd is the only guy with some

809
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Speaker 2: measure of speed, and even his is not of the

810
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Speaker 2: elite variety. And I think you need elite speed off

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Speaker 2: the edge in this defense to have any measure of

812
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: success on a consistent basis of rushing the passer. And

813
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Speaker 2: so I think they have to still add that even

814
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: though the position has bodies now good players, but you

815
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: need someone with elite top end, bend the corner speed.

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00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just no two ways about it.

817
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: And those guys don't concern and those guys don't fall

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Speaker 1: off trees. I mean, they're hard to get unless you're

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Speaker 1: at the top of the draft. I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get one that's as elite as you need him

821
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Speaker 1: to be unless it's a guy who's already established. So

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Speaker 1: they may be forced by the by their past success

823
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Speaker 1: as a team. They may be forced to just make do.

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Speaker 1: And you know we're all sitting here another year of

825
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: an okay pass rush, not an elite pass rush.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think nose tackle is definitely something that

827
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Speaker 2: needs to be addressed in the form of a veteran

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Speaker 2: player and then interior linebacker. If the Bills feel good

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Speaker 2: about Williams and Bernard. Maybe they sign a veteran for

830
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: depth on a one year deal, like maybe you bring

831
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Speaker 2: back Shaq Thompson, and then maybe you draft a linebacker

832
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: and what is said to be a good off the

833
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Speaker 2: ball linebackers. So we'll have to see where it goes.

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00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: Josh says, for me, the Bradley Chubb, CJ Gardner Johnson

835
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Speaker 2: signings mixed with the DJ Moore trade has moved me

836
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: from the yellow to just into the green. Still got

837
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: some work to do, but Buffalo is getting there. I mean,

838
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say that those three players

839
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Speaker 2: to a large degree can be considered close to, if

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00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: not frontline players, like high end starting caliber players. You know,

841
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: maybe Bradley Chubb isn't a double digit sack superstar anymore,

842
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: but could he get back to that in a single season. Yeah,

843
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: he could get back to that. I think DJ Moore's

844
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: production was somewhat compromised by the pecking order in that

845
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: passing game with Caleb Williams in Chicago. Can he get

846
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: back to some of his more prolific numbers, some of

847
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: which he had under Joe Brady and Carolina. I think

848
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: that's possible. And then CJ. Gardner. Johnson has played for

849
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: five teams in the last five years. But that's an

850
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: attitude edge guy that this team sorely needed on defense.

851
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: Somebody who's going to actually strike fear and receivers coming

852
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: across the middle because he's gonna lay him out within

853
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: the rules, of course, can't hit a defenseless receiver in

854
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: the back of the head. But a guy that might

855
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: intimidate some people and get them thinking twice and maybe

856
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: alligating our arming some passes.

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Speaker 1: It will raise the thermostat of the defense a little bit,

858
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, it'll get him into the aggressive, angry level

859
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: of emotion that they have struggled to get to at times.

860
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any debate about that. And

861
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: you can probably use three or four more of those

862
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: kinds of players going forward to add to this roster

863
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: to really give him some measure of nastiness, particularly on

864
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. Got to take a

865
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Speaker 2: break here when we come back. Co host of the

866
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Speaker 2: pro football focused NFL show and college football and NFL

867
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: analyst Dalton Wasserman going to join us has some interesting

868
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: takes on some of the top free agent moves over

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Speaker 2: the past week and what position groups are still strong

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Speaker 2: in free agency versus the draft.

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Speaker 1: This one Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to our number two here on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Pasco with you and pleased to welcome

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Speaker 2: in the co host of the PFF NFL show Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Focus, College Football and NFL analyst Dalton Wasserman joining

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Speaker 2: us as we take a look back at wave one

877
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Speaker 2: in Wave two of free agency thus far, and the

878
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: Bills kind of dip their toe in it more and

879
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: more as the week went on. Their big move came

880
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: via trade with DJ Moore, but scooping up some defensive

881
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: backs here at the end of last week, with reports

882
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: now that Geno Stone is close to signing with the

883
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: Bills as well, in addition to CJ. Gardner, Johnson and

884
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: d Alford, Why don't you just give us your overview

885
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: of what Brandon Bean is. What do you think Brandon

886
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: Bean has done thus far to start refortifying a defense

887
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: that needs more talent on that side of the ball.

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00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they need more talent. I think they're going to

889
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: continue to add young talent in the draft. But I

890
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: think something that Jim Leonard is going to look for

891
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: in this defense is versatility. Right when you go back

892
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: and watch his defenses that he used to call it Wisconsin,

893
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: he had versatile players who would get after the football

894
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: at all times. I think Gardner is CJ. Gardner Johnson

895
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: is a guy who really has embodied that throughout his

896
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: whole career. He can play in the nickel, he can

897
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: play back in a deep path, he can do a

898
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: lot of different things for you. Geno Stone is somebody

899
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 3: who can play back and allow Gardner Johnson and Cole

900
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: Bishop to do all those things in the box and

901
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: in the nickels. So I really think Leonard, yes, they

902
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 3: still need to get more talented, I think including at

903
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: that safety position, but Leonard's really going to value guys

904
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: who can play in multiple different roles. And then you

905
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: look at d Alford when he wants to get in

906
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: a more traditional nickel set, he's basically just a direct

907
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 3: replacement for Taron Johnson. It's the same role that he

908
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 3: played out there in Atlanta for several years. So he's

909
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: giving himself a lot of different options to a compete

910
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: for starting jobs and b just give you those versatile

911
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 3: players that can play in multiple different roles.

912
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: And that's really the key, right, I mean, what can

913
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: you extrapolate from what you know about Jim Leonard, the

914
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: players that are left on the roster from the four

915
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: to three defensive scheme they ran, and the guys that

916
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: they're signing in free agency, what can you extrapolate from that?

917
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: Is it only about positionless football back there a little bit.

918
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 3: I mean, there's certain guys in throughout the entire defense

919
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 3: who are still going to be the main stays, right

920
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: Greg Russo at Oliver Terrell Bernard obviously Christian Benford on

921
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: the outside. But what I think you're gonna get is

922
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: just more exotic looks, especially off the edges when it

923
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: comes to blitzing, and then just different stunts inside that

924
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: you're talking about right Again, the versatility is big. Anybody

925
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 3: who can blitz you're available at all times. Because he

926
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 3: runs a very aggressive style of defense. He didn't call

927
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: the plays in Denver, but I would bet he also

928
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: had a very heavy hand in influencing those blitz packages

929
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: in the way that they use their defensive backs. You

930
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: think about somebody like a Jaquan McMillan out there in Denver,

931
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: if he can get the offered or somebody else in

932
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 3: the spot to play in that versatile type role where

933
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: he can cover on any play or blitz on any play.

934
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: I think it makes a lot of sense. He's gonna

935
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: want this team to be athletic up front. They're going

936
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: to try to get more athletic on the defensive line

937
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: so they can move around more. And then I just

938
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: think more hybrid players at all positions. Linebackers who can

939
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 3: rush the passers, you know, safety and safeties, and corners

940
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: who can blitz off the edge and work into different stunts.

941
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: It's going to be a lot of different looks here

942
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: from if it looks like his old Wisconsin defenses, you're

943
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: gonna get no two plays in a row with the

944
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 3: same look.

945
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: With that in mind about rushing the passer, Bradley Chubb's

946
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: the biggest financial investment in that effort here this offseason

947
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: with the three year deally signed last week, Chubb, Rousseau,

948
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: you know, Javon Solomon, a rotational player as an outside linebacker,

949
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: and then Michael Hoyt, who we don't really know when

950
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: he's gonna be available coming off the Achilles tear in October.

951
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean he's going to probably be pushing it right

952
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: up to the start of the regular season. All those

953
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: players are all well and good, but none of them

954
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: are speed demons off the edge. How much more speed

955
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: do you think they need to get at that position?

956
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: They could certainly use a little bit more, right, I mean,

957
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: they've got some heavy handed power rushers starting with Russeau

958
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: and then that list of guys like you mentioned. But

959
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: the good news is, if you're looking for more speed

960
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: off of the edge, this is a great draft to

961
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 3: try and find it, right if you want to find

962
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: one more guy who can rotate in there on passing downs.

963
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 3: I think edge defender is the deepest position unit in

964
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: this draft class. So whether they do it in round

965
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: one or later on, honestly, I think almost every team

966
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: in the league should at least look at this edge

967
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: class and decide whether or not they want to take

968
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: a player, whether it be in the first round or

969
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 3: in the middle round. So I definitely think it is something,

970
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 3: you know, like in the same role that they had

971
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 3: Joey Bosa playing in last year, that designated pass rusher

972
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: type of role. That's something they can look into. It's again,

973
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: it's not something they necessarily have to do in the

974
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 3: first round. But this is such a deep edge class.

975
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 3: I think this guy's into Round three and four that

976
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: can be useful in that exact role.

977
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: Now, that probably won't be. But if if the roster

978
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: remain static, like from today until the draft, what do

979
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: you think about the twenty sixth overall pick.

980
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: To me, it would be something to help in the

981
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: middle of their defense. A linebacker or safety could make sense.

982
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got the top three safeties that may

983
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: or may not be on the board. I've seen Max

984
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: where they all go in the top twenty. I've done

985
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: Max where they all go in the top twenty. When

986
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 3: you talk about Caleb Downs won't be there for sure.

987
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 3: Dylan Thenaman and Emmanuel McNeil Warren from Oregon and Toledo respectively,

988
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: both very hot names. But I also think depending on

989
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: how the board falls as well, I think it's a

990
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: prime trade down spot for Buffalo as well to get

991
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: more picks if they're gonna build this defense with a

992
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: higher quantity of players. You know, especially after trading pick

993
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: number sixty for DJ Moore, you can do that on

994
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: Day two in this draft. I also think the underrated

995
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: need is guard. Are they going to replace David Edwards directly,

996
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 3: are they going to upgrade on Osiris Torrents on the

997
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 3: other side? So guard is something else that I think

998
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: could be a sleeper pick for the Bills at twenty six.

999
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: But I might be looking to trade down because Day

1000
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 3: two at linebacker and safety especially are really really deep.

1001
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the general consensus is while there are a

1002
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: couple of nose tackles who will probably merit consideration laid

1003
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: round one early round two, a lot of the draft

1004
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: gurus maintain that the cluster of nose tackles is probably

1005
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 2: going to come off the board somewhere in round three.

1006
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: The problem is the Bills are at the bottom of

1007
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: that round at ninety one. Are you anticipate painting that

1008
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: if there is a run on nose tackles in the

1009
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: cluster is in the third round, it's Kyle probably gonna

1010
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: be in the top half, not the bottom half. So

1011
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: the Bills may have to make a move there if

1012
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: they want to be part of the party.

1013
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably, I mean there's gonna be an initial run.

1014
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: Three guys that I think about Caden McDonald from Ohio State,

1015
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: a Christian Miller from Georgia, and Lee Hunter from Texas tech.

1016
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 3: I would expect those guys to go somewhere between probably

1017
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: pick twenty and pick forty five. I think those are

1018
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: the three initial guys you're looking at, but then you

1019
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 3: look later on. I think that early third round range,

1020
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 3: early to mid third round is probably right for somebody

1021
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: like a Dominique Orange from Iowa State, like a Dante

1022
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: Corleone from Cincinnati who's approven just a gap plugger as

1023
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: a run stopper in there. So you probably would be

1024
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 3: waiting a little bit. And there's a lot of different

1025
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: types of players at defensive tackle in this class. So

1026
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 3: if they don't do it at twenty six or maybe

1027
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: with a trade down maybe ten to fifteen spots and

1028
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: get into on those first three guys, then yeah, it's

1029
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 3: probably gonna take some waiting to see what happens in

1030
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: round three.

1031
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: If the Bills take a stand up off the ball

1032
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: linebacker to go down the middle of that and they

1033
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: do it at number twenty six, who will it be.

1034
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: I think it's possible that CJ. Allen from Georgia could

1035
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 3: get to that pick. I think that's the one that

1036
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: you'd be hoping for. You're gonna get sunny styles and

1037
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: RVL rees obviously off the board, likely in the top ten. CJ.

1038
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 3: Allen is the next one, and then this is where

1039
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: I wonder if they would trade down or if they

1040
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: would hold serve and take one there. Maybe they reach

1041
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: down for a Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech, who I

1042
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 3: think is more likely now to go in the second round,

1043
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: possibly top fifty, but to trade down and be able

1044
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 3: to get maybe in the second round of Rodriguez, a

1045
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 3: Jake Golde from Cincinnati, even in the third round. If

1046
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 3: you're looking at somebody you want to be able to

1047
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: cover with right in space, Anthony Hill from Texas or

1048
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 3: Kyle Lewis from pitt There's a lot of options. Twenty

1049
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: six is a weird spot. If CJ. Allen gets to them,

1050
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: I would absolutely take him, but if not, in depending

1051
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: out of the rest of the board falls again, it's

1052
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: another spot where I think about, maybe if I can

1053
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 3: trade back ten or fifteen spots and get more picks

1054
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 3: and get one of those second round linebackers. I feel

1055
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: really good, and.

1056
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: I realize it's hard to kind of predict what's going

1057
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: to be sitting there for them at twenty six with

1058
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: all that's going to go on in front of them,

1059
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: and he had eighteen teams in the league last year

1060
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: that did not have a double digit sack guy on

1061
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 2: their roster. Everybody's going to be after edge rushers early.

1062
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: But I'm wondering if the edge class is deep enough

1063
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: and the needs for offensive linemen and corners will be

1064
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: enough to push potential edge rushing talent that the Bills

1065
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: might consider at twenty six or are you expecting the

1066
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: cupboard to be bare by them in terms of proper value.

1067
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: No, it's certainly it won't be bear because I think

1068
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: there's even some guys that I would consider borderline first

1069
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: second round talents wouldn't like it, probably top forty to

1070
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: forty five talents that it wouldn't shock me that much

1071
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: if they went twenty six. Talk about say a Zion

1072
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: Young from Missouri, even a R. Mason Thomas from Oklahoma.

1073
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: Two different types of players depending on what Jim Leonard

1074
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: and company are looking for. But no, there is going

1075
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: to be solid value there off the edge of twenty

1076
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 3: six anyway, Even if there is something of an early run,

1077
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't even shock me still, you know, with some of

1078
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: the age and past injury injury concerns, If it was

1079
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: somebody like in a key Mesodor from Miami, right. I

1080
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: think he's one of the hardest players to gauge. If

1081
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: he got to twenty six as a as a guy

1082
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: who can help you as a pass rusher, immediately, I

1083
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: think that'd be a really solid pick for Buffalo. So

1084
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: as far as edge defenders goes, there is going to

1085
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: be value. Even if they were to trade back into

1086
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: round two, that's going to be value. This is it's

1087
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: just a very very deep edge class that you're really

1088
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: not gonna fall short off.

1089
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: Well, does that change what you see now? As the

1090
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: free agent market starts to cool off a little bit,

1091
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: what are the best guys available? On which ones would

1092
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: have an outside shot of stepping in and help and

1093
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: contributing to Buffalo right away? I mean, as this market

1094
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: cools off, you know that you know these guys are

1095
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: going to start getting a little bit antsy to sign someplace.

1096
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on what's left on the free

1097
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: agent market and whether any of it would apply to Buffalo.

1098
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: As far as the edge defender market, I mean, you

1099
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: still talk about what could they bring Joey Bose. I mean,

1100
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: you look at the Bills have this long history of

1101
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 3: bringing in these mercenary type guys, right, whether it's Joey Bosa,

1102
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: Von Miller in the past, to the bigger contract, Jadevian Clowney,

1103
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: who even at his age in a part time role,

1104
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: can still be very valuable for you, right, I think,

1105
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: you know, even I don't know if they would ever

1106
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: bring back Von Miller, but he actually had a decent season.

1107
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: But you know, guys like a Hassan Reddick, right, I mean,

1108
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 3: you just you have so many guys who signed these

1109
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 3: one year deals as uge rushers because teams want, you know,

1110
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: guys who can play three to four hundred snaps mostly

1111
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 3: as pass rushers, like Bosa did last year, and he

1112
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: was good in that role.

1113
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1114
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: If you can prevent some of those guys from playing

1115
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 3: on every down, you know, because usually the weakness is

1116
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: in the run game, then you could be just fine.

1117
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: I think Jadevian Clowney might be another name to look

1118
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: at there. He's gonna be somebody's gonna sign late. He's

1119
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: gonna sign a one year deal like he's been doing

1120
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: for multiple years. But you get him in there, and

1121
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: you get him four to five hundred snaps in the

1122
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: right role, then he could be good for you.

1123
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: And I know in the three round mock you and

1124
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: your colleague Trevor Sikhima, did you you had Kristan Miller

1125
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: from Georgia in there and pick twenty six, and then

1126
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: you went with Anthony Hill, the linebacker from Texas in

1127
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: round three. Why don't you give us a thumbnail sketch

1128
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: on those guys and why you could see them as

1129
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: a fit for Buffalo's defensive scheme.

1130
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: Miller's just a really solid run defender, you know, and

1131
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: he's kind of thought of on the surface as just

1132
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: this noseguard who plays between the in the a gaps.

1133
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 3: But the more I watched him, I think he can

1134
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: fill a variety of roles. Even if Jim Leonard wants

1135
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 3: to mix up the fronts and put him inside or

1136
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: over the tackles, I think he can be really good.

1137
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: He's just a guy. He's going to go in the

1138
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 3: top forty. He's going to make somebody's run defense a

1139
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: lot better. There's some pass rush potential there. I wouldn't

1140
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: expect him to be an eight to ten SAT guy,

1141
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: But if you're talking about just trying to get better

1142
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 3: between the tackles, especially in run defense, he's your guy, absolutely.

1143
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 3: I think he's a solid potential late first round pick.

1144
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: And then Anthony Hill. I think a big problem for

1145
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 3: the Bills the last few years has been since Matt

1146
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 3: Mlono's had his injury issues, they struggle to cover the

1147
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: middle of the field, that linebacker especially. He's not the

1148
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: biggest guy, he's undersized, but he's a really good athlete

1149
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: that on passing down I think on day two could

1150
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 3: be really helpful, right the ability to cover in space,

1151
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 3: the ability to read and diagnose screens. I think he's

1152
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: very good at tackling in the backfield, out in open space.

1153
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 3: And then you can blitz him as well too with

1154
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: the speed that he has. So when you talk about

1155
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 3: a complimentary guy, maybe not a guy you want playing

1156
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: on every down right now, But somebody say, if Dorian

1157
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: Williams is playing on early downs in the run game,

1158
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 3: right you bring in Anthony Hill in those obvious passing situations.

1159
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: And he's the type of versatile player to me as

1160
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: a blitzer or a coverage player that Jim Leonard might

1161
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: really like.

1162
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: Overall, looking around the league, what has grabbed you the

1163
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: most about this free agent period around the league? Any

1164
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: teams jump out at you, or acquisitions that have stood

1165
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: out to you or trends.

1166
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: I mean, offensive linemen are getting paid, no question right,

1167
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: even if there's some question marks about him. I mean

1168
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: Tyler Linderbaum right at the top getting twenty seven million year.

1169
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 3: It's a perfect fit in the Raiders offense with Clint Kubiak.

1170
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 3: But you talk about the amount of money he's making,

1171
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 3: I think it's just especially in the interior, guys like

1172
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 3: Isaac Samalo, David Edwards, Elijah Barah Tucker even though he

1173
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: didn't play at all last year getting fourteen million a year.

1174
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 3: The interior of the offensive line, those guys are the

1175
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: big winners, and to me around the league, if there

1176
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: was one signing that stuck out that I absolutely love,

1177
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd, the linebacker from the Jaguars going to Carolina

1178
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 3: at three years and forty five million. This guy was

1179
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 3: the third highest graded linebacker in the league for US

1180
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: and there were not many teams with a bigger linebacker

1181
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 3: need than Carolina. I really like the way that they've

1182
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: gone out this year and made some big moves between

1183
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 3: him and Jalen Phillips that Panther team is going to

1184
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: compete in the NFC South again as long as they

1185
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: can protect Bryce Young.

1186
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: And then last one for me here Dalton is some

1187
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: teams got stripped bear in free agency. The Chiefs come

1188
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: to mind with their secondary, which got absolutely picked clean

1189
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: through some of their own doings trading away McDuffie. But

1190
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: you know they've lost Jalen Watson, they lost Brian Cook

1191
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Are there any other teams that kind of

1192
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: got stripped bear and really have to do a lot

1193
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: of reloading here after the first week of free agency.

1194
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: The chief second sticks out for sure. The Ravens the

1195
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 3: interior offensive line. They didn't replace Linderbaum. They got John Simpson,

1196
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 3: an old friend back to play one guard spot. But

1197
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: to me, the Ravens have got to find answers at

1198
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: center and at right guard or their interior offensive line

1199
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 3: could really struggle this year. But it's a great mention

1200
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: on the Chiefs, and I think with two first round picks,

1201
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: you have to expect that they are going to go

1202
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: secondary with at least one of those picks, if not both.

1203
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: I'd be curious to see if they would go with

1204
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 3: a Caleb Downs if he was on the board ninth

1205
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: overall and reset it safety and worry about corner later.

1206
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 3: But those are two that stick out to me, especially

1207
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: when you talk about AFC contenders. The Ravens offensive line

1208
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: is something worth watching, and like you mentioned that, Chief

1209
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 3: secondary good stuff.

1210
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: Man, really appreciate you. Thanks for coming on.

1211
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: Dalton, Absolutely appreciate you guys as always.

1212
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1213
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: All right. So that's a PFF college football and NFL

1214
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 2: analyst Dalton Losserman joining us. He and Trevor Sickimum. He's

1215
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: a friend of the show as well. They're doing three

1216
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: round mock the other day.

1217
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: Those guys are in the weeds. Man.

1218
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: Oh well, they do it all day everybody.

1219
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, to listen because they're you know, they're rattling off

1220
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: names and yet you know, have to go check on

1221
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: every name.

1222
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: But that's why I wanted to ask him, because we

1223
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: talk all the time about free agent ads. Oh yeah,

1224
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of teams that have lost like a

1225
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 2: handful of frontline starting caliber players and the Chiefs are

1226
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: one of those teams. And that's why I think they're

1227
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 2: almost absolutely going defensive back, whether it's a corner or

1228
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 2: safety at nine. And then they have the second pick

1229
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: later on. But man, they gotta they got to pick

1230
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: clean on the back.

1231
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: He's what happened. I mean, they nailed a couple of

1232
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: drafts the Chiefs did. That's why their defense has been

1233
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: so good. And Spags their defensive coordinator Spagnola, Steve Spagnola,

1234
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: has been outstanding as well. But when they get you know,

1235
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: they hit it on a draft. Those guys draft, they

1236
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: all become free agents at the same time. You know,

1237
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: their their contracts are all right there together, and over

1238
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: the course of the eighteen months, you got nobody left.

1239
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: You gotta do it again. That's one of the it's

1240
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: one of it's a edged sword. You get a quarterback

1241
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: like Mahomes or Josh or Joe Burrow and these guys

1242
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: that kind of gives you some stability on one side

1243
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: of the ball and you try and build it around

1244
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: that guy. Well, you know, eight years later, the guys

1245
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: still playing at a high level. You got to refurbish again.

1246
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: Certainly the Chiefs have had their share of success doing that,

1247
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 1: but it's part of the deal. I mean, they're got

1248
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: work to do.

1249
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: They worked and the Ravens old line, he's one hundred

1250
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: percent right.

1251
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: It's right.

1252
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: Linderbaum out. They didn't re sign foul their giant right guard.

1253
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: They got John Simpson back from the Jets, but I

1254
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: mean he's an average player at best. So I mean

1255
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: the Ravens are probably drafting old line early unless they

1256
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: fill those holes some somewhere here in free agency in

1257
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 2: the not too distant future. So I just I find

1258
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: it interesting there's so much focus on what teams are adding.

1259
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: I try to keep an eye on who's losing players,

1260
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: like quality talent that has made them a quality team.

1261
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: In Baltimore and Kansas City are two teams that are

1262
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: dealing with that right now.

1263
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the symptom of the way the league is financially

1264
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: and with free agency and how players move and all that,

1265
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: it becomes evident that every team may change its identity

1266
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: and it's you know, up to a greater degree than

1267
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: they did decades ago. These teams become different teams year

1268
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: to year, and they got to that. I say it

1269
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: a lot, We talk about it all the time. These

1270
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: coaches build it, build the offensive scheme and the defensive scheme,

1271
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: and their play calling and their repertoire of of facets

1272
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: of the game. They build it around the players they've got.

1273
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: That's it's a high level, the high degree of coaching

1274
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: because they got to rebuild it from the ground up

1275
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: almost every year, and they build it around the guys

1276
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: that can really play and the guys that are available,

1277
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: the guys they can count on, and those guys are

1278
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: vastly different every year. And that's you know, we're seeing

1279
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: this now. These teams, like the Chiefs are going to

1280
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: be completely different group in the back end of their defense,

1281
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: which means they're going to have to play different schemes,

1282
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: make different calls, and they're not going to be able

1283
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: to do some of the things they did last year

1284
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: or years past. And it may be better or it

1285
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: may be worse.

1286
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: The league announced the performance based pay winners in the

1287
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: league player wise. They put out their top twenty five

1288
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: list of Performance Bay paid distribution players and one Bills

1289
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: player did make the list. This is performance base pay

1290
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: that exceeds the value of the rookie contract they signed,

1291
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: and checking in at number seventeen on the list was

1292
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: Osyrus Torrance, who with all of his starts and snaps

1293
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: and playing time, got almost one point one million dollars

1294
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: more added to his contract and performance base pay.

1295
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Speaker 1: Way to go, Cybo. Good for him, man, that's getting

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Speaker 1: on the field means something.

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Speaker 2: I kind of like this program. You know, you got

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Speaker 2: a lot of players that are winning starting jobs and

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Speaker 2: they're on a rookie contract. It's a nice way to

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Speaker 2: kind of supplement the income for them.

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Speaker 1: For me, it seems like too that Christian Benford would

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01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: have been on that list in years past, right, seventh

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Speaker 1: round draft?

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01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I both a sixth round pick. Yeah, I believe

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: he was. I believe he was a few years back.

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: The player who led the league in performance base pay

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 2: was Bear's corner Nashan Wright, who netted one point four

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01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 2: to four million in performance base pay, but Osiri's Torrance

1309
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: not far behind a little over almost one point one million,

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01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: So good for him. That is a nice extra bonus check. Huh.

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Speaker 1: That's like how about that waiting on tables or something,

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01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: doing something regular, regular job and then getting one one

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Speaker 1: million for doing a nice job.

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Speaker 2: Let's go better than a pat on the back.

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Speaker 1: You don't tell you that, right? You know what? Hey,

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01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: you know what you played well? As how about a

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: little we got a little something for you? Here you go.

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01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 1: It's like, what is it is? One point one million?

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Speaker 2: What? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That is awesome. I love that program. I think it's

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: it's an absolutely fair and equitable thing to do for

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01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: these young guys who come in and I don't know

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01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: what you call it, slip through the cracks or they're

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01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: you know there, or they land in just the perfect

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: spot where they can thrive, and they get rewarded for

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01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: it and for working hard and doing the right thing.

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01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 1: That's that's a I love.

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01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: That NFL players received more than five hundred and forty

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01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: two million in performance base pay for the twenty twenty

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01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: five season, and that's collectively bargained, like they put all

1331
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: that set up and it compensates all players based on

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: their playing time and salary levels. That's not nothing so

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: good for them. We got to step aside, take a

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Speaker 2: break here. When we come back, more of your thoughts

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01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet. As we are asking you what

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: did the first week of what the Bills did in

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01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: free agency? How much did that move the needle for

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Speaker 2: you as far as their twenty twenty six prospects this fall?

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01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: You tell us add One Bills Live on the tweet

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Speaker 2: sheet and we're back to more of your comments next

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live. All right, back here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Task me with you.

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Speaker 2: Friend of the show, Mike Janitti had an interesting tweet here, Steve,

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01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: this is eye opening. The five largest Miami Dolphins cap

1345
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 2: figures right now belong to players no longer on the roster. Yeah,

1346
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:35,520
Speaker 2: the countdown from number five to one, Steve, Minka Fitzpatrick

1347
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: at twelve point nine million traded to the Jets. Jalen

1348
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: Ramsey twenty point eight million traded last year to the Steelers.

1349
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill twenty eight point two million free agent free agent,

1350
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: but has dead money out the wazoo on the Miami books.

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01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb signed by the Bills, thirty one point two

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 2: million on the Dolphin's books.

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Speaker 1: And of course at number one, your friend and ours to.

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 2: A tongue of ioloa at fifty six point two million dollars.

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01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: How much dead cap space is that you do?

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 2: How much dead cap it is? Well, let's see, that's

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01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 2: eighty seven plus twenty eight, so that's one fifteen plus

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 2: another thirty two, one forty seven, one hundred and forty

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01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: seven million in dead jail. Just shy of now that

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01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: number drops to fifty five point four after June first,

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: because some of those guys were post June first, designations

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01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: like Tua for example. But man alive. They're the New

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01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: Saints who finally got out of cap jail after a

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01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: twelve year sojourn. I mean, Moses walked through the desert

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01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: longer than longer than the Saints were in cap jail.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my god.

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Speaker 1: That yeah, but the Saints being in cap jail was

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01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: that was.

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Speaker 2: A perpetual thing.

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Speaker 1: Business division. It was a business model for them. They

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01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: did it on purpose, you know, after that long that's

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Speaker 1: what it was you had.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't sign anybody without tacking on four

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01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: void years. Like one year Deals had four void years

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01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 2: on him, which is the most you can put. You know,

1376
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: you can only spread out a bonus five years max.

1377
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: But my gosh, they finally got out from under that

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01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: this year, which is why they were handing big money

1379
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: to people like David Edwards. That was wild right back

1380
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Speaker 2: in the Dolphins, the New Saints in terms of dead cap.

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Speaker 1: Good lord, yeah, that's the Dolphins could not have misplayed

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01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: the draft. They took Tua. In more, the it was

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01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: alleged that they wanted Brian.

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Speaker 5: Flores, wanted Herbert they want yes, absolutely, they couldn't get

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01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 5: him because Flores was too good a coach and they

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 5: couldn't tank well enough to get well.

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Speaker 2: No, Herb was still on the board, they passed and

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01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: went with Tua. That's if I remember right. Herbert was

1389
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: the seventh pick and Tua was the fifth pick. That's crazy,

1390
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 2: so ye, and then they handed big money to aging

1391
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: veterans who were not going to be on the roster long.

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: They handed gigantic money to Jalen Ramsey as a thirty

1393
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: year old corner. He played eight games and got traded.

1394
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 2: And then Bradley Chubb got gigantic money after they traded

1395
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: for him, like one hundred and twenty one million dollar contract.

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01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: And while he had production, he had an eleven sax

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01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: season is I think his first year in a Dolphins uniform.

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: Long range, it didn't pan out, obviously, the season ending

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01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: injury was a big part of that. And there were

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Speaker 2: other contracts. I mean, they kept handing more and more

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01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: money to Tyreek so and then they signed Jalen Wattle.

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01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: To Jalen Waddles the guy you extend the twenty four

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: year old phenom that's got, you know, five years in

1404
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 2: front of him of quality production. You know, you don't

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01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: hand the money to a thirty year old corner whose

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01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: best days are behind him, and it's now playing more

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: safety than corner in Pittsburgh. So it was ill fated

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01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: from the jump and they're paying the price quite literally

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 2: right now. Got to get back to the tweetcheet comments though,

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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: how did the Bill's first week of free agency move

1411
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: the needle for you? And you can chime in add

1412
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 2: one Bill's live for your own comments. But Dean says,

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01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: I like most of the signings, but what is the

1414
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: work on our wide receivers like Cook's Davis Palmer. I

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01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: would also see if Bosa wants another one year deal

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01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: as strictly a pass rusher. I don't know if Bosa's

1417
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: a fit. You got four power pass rushers right now,

1418
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: or three power pass rushers on the roster right now,

1419
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: one quote unquote speed rusher, and Michael Hoyt, who's coming

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01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: off in Achilles. To me, Bosa's long enough to play

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: outside linebacker, but he lacks a suddenness that you have

1422
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: to have out there. To me, I think Bradley Chubb

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: has replaced Joey Bosa and the role that he had

1424
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: played previously, albeit in a different system.

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01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: Yes for the Yes for.

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Speaker 2: It.

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01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: Depends on the money. If Bosa wants to play at

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01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: all costs and not take you know, big money, or

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01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: if he just or yeah, for the right price, yeah sure,

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01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: bring him back.

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01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: But he's a two hundred and eighty pound player. He's

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01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: probably a defensive end at a five technique than he

1433
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 2: is as an outside money back.

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01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: Like I said, under the right circumstances, of course, he's

1435
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: a good enough player that you'd wont on your team,

1436
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,799
Speaker 1: and in the right circumstances he could help you enough

1437
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. But you're not going

1438
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: to pay him anywhere near the money he paid him

1439
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: last year on a one year deal. Yeah that's it.

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: I mean for the right price, yeah, sure, but not

1441
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: for the money you paid him last year.

1442
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: Connor on the tweets sheet says, I think it's great.

1443
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: It's easy to see that they're signing great locker room

1444
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 2: and culture guys. With the signing a CJ. Gardner Johnson,

1445
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 2: it shows a shift from the coaching staff. This is

1446
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: not a player that we would usually see signed in

1447
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 2: the past. He brings an edge to the defense that

1448
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 2: we need. He does bring an edge. I mean, all

1449
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: you got to do is watch him in the run front,

1450
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 2: and you see him early and you feel his physical presence.

1451
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: That guy is looking to knock people's teeth out in

1452
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 2: the run front.

1453
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: Equated a little bit some of the people who are

1454
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: as old as me to Leonard Smith coming to the

1455
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: Bills back in the day, Larry got thrown out, got

1456
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: tossed out of a game. That kind of Carwell Gardner

1457
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: kind of a guy. A little bit like Darryl Tally

1458
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: kind of a guy. Yep, you need guy who are

1459
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: as we call the point of the spear. If there's

1460
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: a fight, they're either in the middle of it or

1461
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: they're trying to get there. It elevates the emotional temperature

1462
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: of your team and it's a good thing in a

1463
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: lot of cases.

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01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: So there's one edge guy. Let's see if they add

1465
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: some more going forward. Lauren on the tweet, she says,

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 2: I like the defensive signings. Still too many holes, one

1467
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: or two nose tackles, pass rush linebacker. I expect the

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01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: Bills to draft for need in Round one like they

1469
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 2: always do. I gotta say with the conversation we had

1470
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 2: with Dalton Wasserman from PFF, I was encouraged that he

1471
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: thinks there will still be not just depth, but depth

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01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: of appropriate value at edge rusher. When the Bills are

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01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: on the clock at twenty six, and I am if

1474
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 2: there is a speed rusher there that fits the value,

1475
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 2: I think they have to go in that direction. And

1476
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: I said it at the combine. I love our Mason Thomas.

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 2: He is a speed rusher. He fills the bill there

1478
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 2: and he could go anywhere from twenty to thirty five.

1479
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 2: So you're right in the sweet spot there at twenty six. Potentially.

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01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: The problem is, and we get this a lot as well,

1481
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: because we've seen it in the past where somebody will

1482
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: offer the Bills a pick to move out of the

1483
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: first into the top, you know, in the top of

1484
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: the second and get this, and so the other team

1485
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: can pick a guy and get a fifty year contract

1486
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: on him like they did with keon trade just out

1487
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: of the first round. But to me, at this current point,

1488
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: if there's a I think the Bills would take the guy.

1489
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I mean, they need the guy.

1490
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: He's juice off the edge. I mean you see it

1491
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: immediately watching his film. I mean, his burst and get

1492
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 2: off is there. And even if you just want to

1493
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 2: make him as a rookie, a situational rusher. I mean,

1494
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: this guy gets sacks just by winning on pure speed,

1495
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: but he also gets sacks on second effort. He is

1496
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,879
Speaker 2: a good run defender. He's two fifty. It's not perfect.

1497
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: He plays her leadership potential. I just like a lot

1498
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 2: of things about him. Not to mention the fact that

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01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 2: as an Oklahoma product, he would train in the off

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01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: season with Nick Benito, who's in Oklahoma, who's an OU alum.

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01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: And is you know, the fourteen sack guy from the

1502
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. He's trained with him and worked with him.

1503
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 2: So give me that guy. Oh and oh, by the way,

1504
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 2: he was also a team captain.

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01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: So he ain't gonna be there at twenty six. That's

1506
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: the problem.

1507
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think he might be.

1508
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: He's not going to be there. I think he might

1509
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: He's no, he's not going to be there. Just trust me.

1510
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: Why are you raining on my parade again? Your parade

1511
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 2: is very nice, but you're raining on it. Yes, it's

1512
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 2: cloud in March. It's it's a little unnecessary. You want

1513
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: to do it a couple of weeks before the draft,

1514
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: that's fine, but he's.

1515
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: Not going to be there. Broke, don't bury me. Now,

1516
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: he's not going to be there. Come on, I like

1517
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: him too.

1518
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 2: Field Yates said he could go anywhere from twenty to

1519
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 2: thirty five. When we had him on at the Combine.

1520
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: He'll go at sixteen.

1521
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 2: Oh god, you're just burying a knife in my heart.

1522
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: Guys like that don't last. They got too much production

1523
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,839
Speaker 1: and there they've got all those intangible things that elevate

1524
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: the guys around them. Those guys don't last. We have

1525
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: no shot at that guy.

1526
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: Lauren wants two nose tackles, and I can't blame her

1527
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,839
Speaker 2: because right now I don't see a true nose tackle

1528
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 2: on the roster. Now. I'm also curious as to whether

1529
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 2: or not Jim Leonard even wants a quote unquote two

1530
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 2: down nose, two down nose. Does he even want that?

1531
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: I mean DJ Jones in Denver was probably the closest

1532
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: thing to that advanced Joseph's scheme, and he goes, you know,

1533
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: three twenty five, three point thirty, and they had another

1534
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: big guy. I want to say it might have been

1535
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 2: Malcolm Roach, but I don't know if he's a true

1536
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: nose in the in the strictest sense of the word.

1537
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: So I kind of pause on that, but I want

1538
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull up the Denver depth shart really quick

1539
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: because I want to see personnel wise, who they had

1540
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: in addition to I mean, we know Zach Allen's there,

1541
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 2: but he's more of the penetrating defensive end slash defensive

1542
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: tackle type who made the Pro Bowl for them obviously

1543
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: along with Nick Benito. But defensively they had Jaserrique, but oh,

1544
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: Malcolm Roach was the other nose tackle. Okay, Soach dj

1545
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: Jones were the two primary nose tackles for them. They're

1546
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 2: not available, they're all still under contract. Roach was a

1547
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: menace in the Bills playoff game. He was a problem.

1548
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: And DJ Jones is more of a guy that stands

1549
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 2: in there and grinds do they want? Kind of the

1550
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 2: more modern day knows who can give you a little

1551
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: bit more than just standing in there and grinding with

1552
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 2: two offensive linemen where he can if he doesn't get

1553
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: pocket pressure, he at least gets pocket pushed to collapse

1554
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: the pocket and make it smaller so the quarterback can't

1555
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 2: step up.

1556
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: There's only so much you can do down there, and

1557
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: you got to have a certain type of guy, and yeah,

1558
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: you can start to play around with it in situational football.

1559
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: But sooner or later you're gonna line up on first

1560
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: and ten. You've got to have a stop and you

1561
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: need a guy in there.

1562
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Malcolm Roach was only six two two ninety DJ

1563
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 2: Jones sixty three three h five. I mean, they weren't

1564
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: these three hundred and thirty pound behemoths. So I wonder

1565
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 2: if he's even looking for a giant human being.

1566
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: Well, you can always reduce the front too, so you

1567
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: can bring one of the defensive ends in a three

1568
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: to four, you can bring one of the defensive ends

1569
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: down on the guard, full up on the guard, so

1570
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: you can condense your your defensive front and alleviate the Yeah,

1571
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: the triple.

1572
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 2: A lot of guys don't play the straight up on

1573
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 2: the head zero right technique anyway.

1574
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, so all of that's in on the you know,

1575
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: on the table. But yeah, that's you'd like to have

1576
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard sit back and say, well, we can do

1577
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: everything we want, because if we want to do this,

1578
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: we'll do this. If we don't, the question is are

1579
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: they gonna be able to or they gonna have to say, well,

1580
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 1: we can't do this defensively because we don't have that

1581
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: guy that's the problem.

1582
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but knowing how much they don't. Knowing how much

1583
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: of a premium though that he puts on position, flex

1584
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: and versatility, so the scheme can be multiple. It has

1585
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 2: me thinking that he's looking more for a guy that

1586
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: can stand in there and play NOS, but offers something

1587
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: more than just a guy in there grinding with two

1588
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: offensive linemen and just occupying two people every snap. If

1589
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: based on what we saw from Denver's defense the last

1590
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: couple of years, the guys that play their quote unquote

1591
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: nose tackle position, they're not three hundred thirty pound guys.

1592
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 2: They're three hundred and five, three hundred pound guys that

1593
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: are relatively athletic or more athletic than your traditional NOS.

1594
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: So what does that mean they're going to look for here.

1595
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see. But if history is

1596
01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: any indication in Denver, they might be fine getting a

1597
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: three hundred and five pound guy in the draft and saying, yeah,

1598
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna be part of our nose tackle rotation. You

1599
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 2: won't be there all the time, but you're gonna be

1600
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 2: there some of the time.

1601
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: I wonder Yeah, And it would be interesting too to

1602
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: know what conversations Jim lend and his staff have had

1603
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: about the guys that are on the roster, like Dion Walker.

1604
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: What is their plan for him? You know, t J. Sanders,

1605
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: what's their plan for him? What do they see in

1606
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: those guys? How do they feel about those guys that

1607
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: would you know, that may take a little bit of

1608
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 1: the urgency out of that spot.

1609
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: M hm. That's and that's that's the decision. I mean,

1610
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: they know what the decision is. We're still waiting to

1611
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 2: see what that looks like.

1612
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: We'll have to see when they when they put helmets

1613
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: on and go out there, We'll see, yeah, what they

1614
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: really think.

1615
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: Or based on the caliber of player they draft or

1616
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: sign in free agency from this point forward, Gotta take

1617
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: a break here, some final thoughts on the tweet seet

1618
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by

1619
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: coll Oid of Health. All right, some final thoughts on

1620
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 2: the tweetsheet here. As we have been asking you today,

1621
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: how did the Bills first week of free agency move

1622
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: the needle for you? And we are up to Andrew

1623
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet who said we went from empty

1624
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 2: to a quarter tank. We've got some big names, no question,

1625
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: but they can but can they do it on this team,

1626
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 2: Time will tell I like us to bring in one

1627
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: more big piece in free agency DJ Reader being that piece,

1628
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: then fill the gaps with the draft to get to

1629
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 2: full we need to see how they perform. So Andrew

1630
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 2: is withholding his expectations until he sees it on the field.

1631
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 2: The proof is in the pudding for Andrew.

1632
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: Andrew is not into the business of predicting the future, apparently,

1633
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,799
Speaker 1: or in wild we're evaluating the past.

1634
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taco on the tweet sheets says, considering their cap limitations,

1635
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 2: it's fine. Only time will tell Wow. That's that's the

1636
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: phrase of the day here on the tweet sheet, time

1637
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: will tell.

1638
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: Well, there and there's totally one hundred percent correct.

1639
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,839
Speaker 2: Probably the most astute Taco I've come across.

1640
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: Very nice.

1641
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,839
Speaker 2: Neil on the tweet sheet says, I think the signing

1642
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 2: of Chubb was great him and Hoyt rushing on the

1643
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: edge could be dangerous. Still some concerns about safety. But

1644
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: like Brownie said, the market is depressed, so we can

1645
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: get good talent either in the draft or later in

1646
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 2: free agency. Yeah, and I think I think we're gonna

1647
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 2: see that in the not too distant future. Here the

1648
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: reports are they're gonna sign Geno Stone, who's been an

1649
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 2: accomplished safety thirteen picks the last three seasons, and it'll

1650
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: probably be a one year deal and it will be

1651
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 2: for reasonable money.

1652
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: C J.

1653
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,799
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson one year deal max of six million dollars.

1654
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: That's a steal.

1655
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: I think their secondary is going to be very much

1656
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: improved this year. I'm just gonna I'll say that right now,

1657
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: put it on the white board. I think it's gonna

1658
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: be very much improved this season. And I that's because

1659
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: you got that's with Taron Johnson leaving, that's hard to do.

1660
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be much improved. I think Max

1661
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: Harrison will be much better. Christian Benford, Cole Bishop will

1662
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: be another. This is his third year, which is that,

1663
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, kind of blooming kind.

1664
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 2: Of a year for fromm last season.

1665
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna be much much better this season.

1666
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,879
Speaker 2: A pass rush will make him look even more outstanding.

1667
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: That would that would, Yes, I'm I'm not even getting

1668
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: into the pass rush until I see how good Mike

1669
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Hoyt is gonna come off his injury and all these

1670
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: other guys.

1671
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: All the more reason to get some more reinforcements. Yeah,

1672
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 2: I Am going to bang that drum until the cows

1673
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: come home. Uh Neil on the tweet Oh, he already talked.

1674
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 2: He already said he'd liked the signing of Chubb. I

1675
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 2: think a lot of people just by virtue of him

1676
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 2: playing in the division are familiar with his game, so

1677
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 2: it's easy for them to kind of get behind that signing,

1678
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: you know. And I know his numbers have been good

1679
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 2: over the years for the most part, and now he'll

1680
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 2: be another year removed from the injury, which I think

1681
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: is an encouraging thing as well. Bill on the tweet

1682
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: sheet says, I will give them an a Like always,

1683
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: it started out slow and then Brandon Bean made some moves.

1684
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 2: I like the dB signings and also keeping McGovern and

1685
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: redoing Knox's contract. They need to add it. Linebacker Milano

1686
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 2: and Shaq question Mark Wyatt Teller DJ Reader would be good,

1687
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 2: depending on how much space they have left. It's the

1688
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 2: first time they met. Somebody mentioned McGovern. I mean getting

1689
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: him back is no small potatoes.

1690
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,640
Speaker 1: No it's not. It's gonna It gives them some It

1691
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: gives them a wide marge of era up front.

1692
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 2: And keeping Knox bat in the fold when it was

1693
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 2: thought he could be a CAPSUASU.

1694
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: I think we all want to run it back offensively,

1695
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: but defensively is where the whole conversation Centers is going

1696
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: to continue to.

1697
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 2: More discussion on this as the free agency Week two continues.

1698
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow and one