1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here is your host, four 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: team year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer Anius Williams. 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: As we celebrate the NFL's hundreds of season, A series 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: of round tables were conducted around the two thousand and 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: eighteen postseason. Consistent of a staggering array of NFL greats, 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: these round tables talked about the NFL's past glory, its present, 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: stars in its promising future. Let's listen in NFL hundreds 9 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: anniversary and I am sitting amongst some straight dogs. How 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: does it feel for you guys to be sitting here? 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: When they gave that call, Prime, they called and they said, hey, man, 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: we we got this hundred year anniversary thing going on, 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: and we're thinking about inviting some dvs from different generations. 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: What do you think, man? What time am I supposed 15 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: to least I'll be there? This is the guyfucker Well, no, no, no, 16 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: straight up, straight up, You've made it this way, man. 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: I remember playing against you when I was a rookie. Man, 18 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: you had old team scared. Man. I mean, but you 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: are that to us, do you you know that? Right? 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: But I had a little old school in me, and 21 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: I think about all the positions that we all have 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: played in situations that we've all been in. The question 23 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: is could you master it? And I and and knowing 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: what I know, all of you guys mastered those moments. 25 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Everybody at this table, though, was pushed by somebody at 26 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: this table. Yeah, it was influenced by somebody at this table. Generations. 27 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: You know. It was like like that man right there, 28 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: one deep is the player to year. Hey man, what 29 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: are you start playing corner? Um? Yeah? I didn't play 30 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: corner like all my whole life from I started playing 31 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: football nine years old, I played safety. I was a 32 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: safety and running back. I got safety, running back all 33 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: the way through high school. All right, go to Purdue. 34 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: I want to be a running back receiver. They were like, 35 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: now you're gonna be safety. So I was a safety 36 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: all the way through Purdue that I ran my forty. 37 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: At the combine, they said, you're gonna be a corner. 38 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: So I went to the corner. I was like, man like, 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: when I first went to the corner, I was lost 40 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: because I'm used to when used to playing safety. You 41 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: all twenty two, I'm back here and I now going 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: to corner. I was on the island. I had to 43 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: go to the outside, and all my friends are over there. 44 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: I felt lonely after that third year, That's what I 45 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: finally clicked in when I'm like, Okay, I can't play 46 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: this guy. I can't cover Drew Hill, I can't cover Humphrey. 47 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: So I can start covering those guys believed in it. 48 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: And then you know, that's where I finally said, Okay, 49 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: I can play out here. I can play that. I 50 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: played another twelve years out there. For me, man, it 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: was really man, it was it was y'all. I mean, 52 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: you guys made the cornerback position fashionable again. I love 53 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: ball hawks. So I used to watch you out there 54 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: on the island and that guy come with that little 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: quick step, that ball and you're gone. I said, yeah, 56 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: watching pride, man, Hey, I want some of that. You 57 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want some of that, man. 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: So watching y'all man through the years is that's what 59 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: did it for me. I think we've taken bits and pieces, 60 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: even Charles. I remember watching Charles play against Randy Right 61 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: and both of you guys got outside of leverage so 62 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: you can see the ball coming and say okay, okay, okay, 63 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I gotta get some of the patience, the patience of 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: this man, you know. And then watching film on this 65 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: man right here, girl, that's all did somebody running slant 66 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: on him in the corner and I saw him speed turned. 67 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: I said, lord, I just rewound that thing. Okay, I 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: mean every everybody, we all, we all take something from 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: each other. I gotta ask you a question, though, because 70 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: all of your thieves, So where does that feel like? 71 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: You know? It's something just you know in you to compete, 72 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, the competitiveness that you have inside you to 73 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: just go out there and uh disrupt the offense and 74 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: make turnovers. I feel like it's mine. Yeah, you know, man, 75 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: that's that's my ball. You know, you get into a 76 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: game and all of a sudden you get two or 77 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: three balls thrown your way. You're like, holdo, just me, man, 78 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: you know what's going on. You must be throwing the 79 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: ball to me, you know. So anytime I was out 80 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: there on the field, it didn't matter who it was, 81 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: if you were coming to my side, I felt like 82 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: you meant for this ball to be my ball. You know, 83 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: it ain't about to receive it's about me, because when 84 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: you think about all the great players, they all out 85 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: to Rod right. But it's a mindset. You know a 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: lot of guys mindset is knocked down. You know before 87 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: that the last day, the last day that was would 88 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: be the interception. That's somefing was last thought for me. 89 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: It was like, I'm getting to pick first. I'll knocked 90 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: the ball down if I can't get there, and if 91 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: you happen to catch it, then I'm attacking you. I'm 92 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: like reverse always and your mindset, ball going the air 93 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: all ol, DBS thought, ball goes in, there's my ball. 94 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Well dogs though that most dB the great ones to 95 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: do play nine of DBS play not to get beat. 96 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: That's let's get. They played not to get They didn't 97 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: even turn on the right. Thank you can't located. Boy, 98 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, don't even throw the ball over here. I 99 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: want to just be clean and white for the whole day. 100 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: No ball, it's a good day. Yeah, I've learned that 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: probably four years into the league. Like, look, man, a 102 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: lot in this game. Remember and said that to me 103 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: when I first came into the big guys, did you play? 104 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: But I was taught that Bobby set me on the stool. 105 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: He say, look, your fellow, you're running up in there 106 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: like crazy. Good player. Man. He said, you gotta protect 107 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: them shoulders. The longer you played them, more money you make. 108 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: I said, you have to tell me twice. It's hard 109 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: coming from my era because that Joe my down man 110 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: with some special Damn Marino with some special Alway. I 111 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: could keep going on and on from my era that 112 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: had great receivers. Tom Brady is a classified bona fide winner. 113 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: You played with Tom in Michigan, right, yeah, I came in. 114 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: We came in together ninet. You know, people always ask, 115 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, hey, man, did you see that in Tom Brady? 116 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: And nobody could foresee, you know, six championships. You know 117 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: that's that's that's unreal, that's unheard of. But what you 118 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: did see out of time is his competitive spirit. Tom 119 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: had that fire in him. He always thought he should 120 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: have been the quarterback his whole time. That he has 121 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: that chip on his shoulder. Then he goes a hundred 122 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: and ninety nine overall, and that chip just continues to grow. 123 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: I just don't think he's ever lost it, because it 124 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: seems like people still doubt him in some way. My 125 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: boys probably sitting there right now, going you mean you're 126 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: not gonna take up for me? Joe did not like 127 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: to lose, and he was gonna take your lunch money. Man. 128 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: He was all in, I'm always about making the right decision. 129 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: How do you make the right decision all the time? 130 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: And that's something that you know. To me, Tom has 131 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: made a lot of right decisions right. At the same time, 132 00:07:55,160 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: my boy never lost so opportunity to actually play with 133 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: with Tom rivals for six years, so I was on 134 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: the I was on one side playing for the Jets, 135 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: competing against him and study and against him, and then 136 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: also team up with him to actually win the Super Bowl. 137 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: And when you're on the rival side, you always you 138 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: study in You're trying to figure this guy out weekend 139 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: and week out. We played him twice a year, same conference. 140 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: You're just trying to figure this guy out, Like what 141 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: does he have that I don't have? What is driving 142 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: him more than in my drive? You know? And when 143 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to the team up with him 144 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,479 Speaker 1: and I was around him every day, I was like, Yeah, 145 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: this guy is the ultimate competitor. Is there anybody that 146 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: you wanted that you didn't get? Quarterback watch. Yeah, I 147 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: never got paid. They got me. If I wanted to 148 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: really get somebody will still be Tom because I mean 149 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: and I said I, I said, Dannren's best quarterback ever 150 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: played against. But I keep watch watching this guy play. 151 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: Of course we got here. He don't complain. He just 152 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: go out there and balls. Marino was dropped in one 153 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: pick ahead of me, and I never got him. That's 154 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: my only guy didn't get. I want to Brady, man, 155 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta bring up the tuck. Yeah, but 156 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: I remember that I dropped. I dropped two of Bradies 157 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: one time, and one of them was for sure a touchdown. 158 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I just got too excited, 159 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: but I looked up and the ball was there and 160 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: I reached my hands out and all I saw was 161 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: sideline and that ball went down my leg, my knee 162 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: and to the sideline. Man, I just passed out. We 163 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: all got to talk about one that you took to 164 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: the house. My favorite one was Atlanta because you know 165 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: where it came from. It came from studying. Mm hmmm. 166 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: Like I saw it trips. I knew what it was coming, 167 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: so I said Y and I just set in the 168 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: end zone and just kind of chilled, and when he 169 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: threw it so funny. It was so funny because I 170 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: told the late Dwight Clark, I'm gonna pick up a ball. 171 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down the side that of them gonna 172 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: look at him, and I'm gonna hash step him, I 173 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: said on the plane. On the plane, and I've been 174 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: during he threw it. Man, that was my favorite one 175 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: because it was at the crib. Everybody over was downplay 176 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: when you play against your old teeth. No, it's just ready. 177 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: I want to know because you talked about, you know, 178 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: getting wisdom. What's something that somebody told you that kind 179 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: of stuck with you right on that because I remember 180 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: talking to you when I was a young baby in 181 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: the game, and his words with me were stay low 182 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: and I always do something extra. And that was it. 183 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: So now every time somebody comes to me, I say, man, listen, 184 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: you know what Prime told me a long time ago. 185 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: Stay low, I always do something extra. And that's interest 186 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: you say that. Nobody said anything to me, but I 187 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: got on the bus in the Pro Bowl my second year. 188 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: But this guy right here and and then what they said, 189 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: it's how they embraced me, because you know, I'm just 190 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: a little skin chicken, you know, and they made me 191 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: feel like I was somebody. You know, we forget that 192 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: the greatness of life is to have people do what 193 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: you just said and give you the wisdom and to 194 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: share with you and talk to you about it and 195 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: and to me, that's what I love about being here today, 196 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: is that soaking it in more importantly, that you had 197 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: a conscious idea of wanting to be the best players 198 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: can help you, and they give you the insight of 199 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: how they see the game, too, which is always great 200 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: to see because you never know. It's something that you 201 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: can put on your tool belt. You can't do everything 202 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: that they do, but you can probably take something. But then, man, 203 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: if you can get to a certain spot where coaches 204 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: let you be you because the best players are who 205 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: they are, they let you be you until you know 206 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: who you are. Saying, no, no, you gotta know who 207 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: you are. But I'm saying, but a lot of coaches, 208 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: some coaches will make you a robot. The best coaches 209 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: that I've been around have been coaches who let me 210 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: be who I was. Let me celebrate that way I 211 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: want to celebrate. Let me speak to what I want 212 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: to speak let me do my own technique with inside 213 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: of the framework of the defense, and then once I 214 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: see it, believe and go get it. Every coach would't 215 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: let you do that. Nine of our country a followers, man, 216 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: that's right. Absolutely, He's only five percent of the leaders 217 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: and just happens to beat this table is leaders that 218 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: that know how to lead. But most of the country 219 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: is followers. Man. That's that's really to do. You know 220 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: how many people have played no, man, I mean played 221 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: this game. And we're sitting up here. You know how 222 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: many people have really played this game? Man? If we 223 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: sitting him that's a great point because those cats was followers. Man, 224 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: ain't nobody to get you up, ain't nobody to get 225 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: you up. Ain't nobody had to get you. Ain't nobody 226 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: to get you up and go get it your self? 227 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: Made man probos that what they used to be. Man, 228 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: it was everything like you couldn't wait for that day 229 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: to come. That man that made it your piers I 230 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: made it first of all in our era, it was 231 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: me and Darryl. Then who was gonna be the next guy? Right, 232 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: So you're fighting for one or two spots now it's 233 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: like it's a toss up man. Change is that everybody. 234 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: Everybody is concerned about the money and with the money 235 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: that they're trying to make, what they think they may 236 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: lose if they go over there to the Pro Bowl. 237 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: Something happened, so so that that's at the forefront of 238 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: what they're thinking about, other than saying, Hey, this dude 239 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: came across the toy Hawaii and he think hes gonna 240 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: beat me today. You think he can beat me during 241 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: the season. Now, I'm not letting it happen. I love 242 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: how you've done it and how are you went about it. 243 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: You bet on you, and we all have been in 244 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: that situation where you're trying to get a deal done 245 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: and and you just don't have the leverage, and and 246 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: I love that you betted on you and you were 247 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: able to make that happen. He knew his work, he 248 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: knew his work knowing you're worth uh. And also you know, 249 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: paving the way for the position. I think everybody at 250 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: this table have passed that torch, this position that we 251 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: played and we mastered it. Some ten year old kid 252 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: right now is trying to master it. He's he's looking 253 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: at everybody at this table and beyond okay, we're sitting 254 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: at the table, and you know, we around a lot 255 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: of speed. But the question everybody gonna look at this 256 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: program and say, well, who was the fastest? I wasn't 257 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: we ran in the world's family the NFL fastest man. Well, 258 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: I can't say cheated. Well, he did get a rolling stunt, 259 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: So so he got technical. He got me. How you 260 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: feel about that? He got me? He got me by 261 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: like like that, Hey, y'all know it's enough room right 262 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: outside these you're talking about talking about now I'm talking 263 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: about Then that's what I'm saying. Then he got, he 264 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: got you got. That's let this is like breaking new there? 265 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Does that mean? That's down to me and you? I 266 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: you think it would have went down with me and you, Well, 267 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: there's only one guy gonna get first. I'm getting that 268 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: the whole. You say, So you're saying you're gonna come 269 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: and get because I'm getting out the whole. Yeah, if 270 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: you're getting out the hole, so you're gonna come and 271 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: get me the forty. I came and get in a forty. 272 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm and oh, I don't know I made him beat, 273 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: but I had lost. When you think of the guys today, 274 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: is there one guy that you go that you look 275 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: at and you go, I just love the way that 276 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: they ball. Is there one guy on the field that 277 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: I think I think. I think one guy that I 278 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: watched last year and uh, you know, I was critical 279 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: love him when he came from his former team he 280 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: was with with the Buffalo Bills. Then he went over 281 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: to the to the Patriots, and that's Gilmore. I thought 282 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: the way he stepped this game up. And I don't 283 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: know what it is what they're doing over there with 284 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots locker room or practice or what what they 285 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: are doing. They have six chas, I don't know, but 286 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: I thought the way he played and the way he 287 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: hold out in that Super Bowl could have been a 288 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP this year. I thought he stepped his 289 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: game up as far as you know, you're more players now, 290 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: you're more of the baller, you know. I like jalen Um. 291 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think he's a tremenduous athlete. I would 292 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: hope that he would be more of a technician over 293 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: the course of time because he just playing with so 294 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: much athletic because he is very, very talented. I think 295 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: he's very smart and savvy. Also, it's his growth, it's 296 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: his growth he has all the tangibles h to take 297 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: the dB position to the next level. I feel I 298 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: like Pat Peterson man because the first day he came 299 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: into the NFL, he went to the one. Day one, 300 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: he went to the one, and he hadn't stopped going 301 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: to the one. So he may get beat here and that, 302 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: but he's playing against the dog. So I like, I 303 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: like Pat Man. Are we saying playing good? A good 304 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: one day? Sit around this table? That's a good one. 305 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: I don't see anybody at right now? Yeah they wait, Yeah, 306 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he just something who can play good. 307 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean I'm pretty critical. I mean I have a host, 308 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, I mean we are. Man, what is this 309 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: y'all talking about? Don't ask me, but I mean, sitting 310 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: around this table. I do like the fact that Pat 311 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: been there a long time and like you said, day one, 312 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: give me this guy. So I like that. I like that. 313 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: I give him the big nod of all of them. 314 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for being here. And uh, 315 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: we could have did this all day. We don't have. 316 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: They got to go, but we don't have to go. 317 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: But this is the hundreds of anniversary and man, I 318 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: would have loved to play with each and every one 319 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: of y'all. Man, I mean, it would have been unbelievable. 320 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: This has been the NFL Legends podcast. To provide feedback 321 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: or request the topic for discussion, email us at NFL 322 00:17:52,440 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: Legends at NFL dot com.