1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: With Carmee and me. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: Happy Masters weekend, Happy last weekend of the NBA regular season. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Dude, After last. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Night's games, you guys, there is so much coming down 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: to tomorrow at the top and the bottom of the 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: West playoff picture. I mean, we have a three way 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: tie at the top of the West right now between 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: the Thunder, Timberwolves, Nuggets. I mean, so many scenarios for 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: the play in situation. Every team will be playing their 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: last game tomorrow. We'll break down the the scenarios a 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: little later. 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: We're also twelve days away from the NFL Draft. 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: Who tied two weeks I can't wait. 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: It's a lot cool here. 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna be We're gonna be sharing with you guys 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: what you should keep your eye out on a little 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: later in the show, We've got some great guests for 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: you guys today. We've NFL Network Cynthia Freeland joining us 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: US in about thirty minutes to talk the path to 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: the Draft, because that's all she's been doing for the 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: last month and a half. 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: No, bless her, she's humoring us. 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: It's all we were talking about last night too. We 27 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: were all together last night together last night. 28 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 4: And we're like having this insane football conversation, just like 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: as if we don't talk about it enough. 30 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: But now it's like, do you like, do you love 31 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 2: what you do? I'm like, do I ever not stop 32 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: talking about it? 33 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 5: No? 34 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm just like it never stops. 35 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: Then we have Fox Sports NFL East reporter Ralph Buckiano 36 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: joining us in hour two because so much going down 37 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: in the East. We have producer Patrick with us today, 38 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: Technical producer Christopher Fett Nick Cope. 39 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: At the news desk. 40 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: Oh, guys and guys, we were broadcasting live from the 41 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: tarrek dot com studios. 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Federal 51 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: authority is concluded if you've been living under a rock show. 52 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: Heo Tani was a victim of massive fraud. So Otani's 53 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: former interpreter, Epey is now in federal custody after surrendering 54 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: to law enforcement. 55 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: Yester yesterday on Friday, after. 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Stealing more than sixteen million dollars from Sho Heo Tani. 57 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: Now he's currently in negotiations to plead guilty to federal 58 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: charges and bank fraud. You guys can carry a maximum 59 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: fine up to one million and or up to thirty 60 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: years in prison. 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: So let me just. 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: Let's break it all down here and let me put 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: it into perspective of how degenerate of a gambler Epay 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: was and how conniving and just oh achy person you 65 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: have to be to do what he did. Let's start 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: with epe was averaging twenty five bets per day. 67 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: That's wild, raging between ten dollars and one hundred and sixty. 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: Thousand dollars per bet between December twenty twenty one. In 69 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: this January, that's around nineteen thousand bets and according to 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: the spreadsheets, he won a total of one hundred and 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: forty two million dollars but lost a total of one 72 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three million dollars, leaving around a forty million. 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: Dollar tab that he owed. 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: That is insane when you think about gambling one hundred 75 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: and eighty three million dollars when you personally make I 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: think it was like around three hundred thousand dollars a year, 77 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: which is. 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: A great living, by the way. 79 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: Incredible living, not enough to be gambling and betting one 80 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three million dollars. 81 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So how does someone gain access? Right? 82 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: Because it's it's hard I think for the normal person 83 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: like you and me to be like, I mean, come on, 84 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: how do you not see sixteen million dollars go missing? 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: Wow? 86 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: The thing you have to remember is that Ipe helped 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: Otani set up all of his US bank accounts when 88 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: he arrived here. 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: Right, I think that was our main question was, like, 90 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: how does he he's Shohey's interpreter, how does he have 91 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: access to all of his money? 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: And then mer he is his voice, right, he is 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: hard account communicating for him. 94 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: He is his American voice. 95 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: So He's not only setting up these bank accounts, which 96 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: then and all of show Hey Otani's angels paychecks go into, 97 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: He's also the one talking to the bank, to his agents, 98 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: to his financial advisors, which gets into the whole trickery 99 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: of all this because investigators found that not Otani but 100 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: Epei was pretending to be Otani on the phone with 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: these bank tellers, and they have evidence that he changed 102 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: the settings and turned off the alerts, so Otani wouldn't 103 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: know how much money was being wired out of his accounts. 104 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: I'm so confused though, how anyone thought Epei was show 105 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: hey Atani. 106 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: Well you have to He's the one also talking for 107 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: him though, Like even when he was setting up these accounts, 108 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: Ipe was the one they are talking to. Whether it 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: is in Japanese or if it was in English, that 110 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 2: is the voice they are used to hearing. 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: It's a tolle. I don't know, but I yeah, it's 112 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: just yeah. So the fact that. 113 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: Ota again, there's so many conspiracy theories still out there, 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: even though the Feds have all the receipts, have all 115 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: the text messages, have all the records here, Like, let's 116 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: just run through some of these text messages here, right, 117 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: because that was also like a little eye opening between. 118 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: Epay and the bookie. Let's go back to. 119 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: November twenty twenty two, where he repeatedly was texting the 120 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: bookmaker asking for more credit. So that's the thing here. 121 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: He was betting on credit a lot of the time. 122 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: He says, I'm terrible at this sports betting thing. Huh lol, 123 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: any chance you can bump me again? As you know, 124 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about me not paying. 125 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 5: You. 126 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: Guys, he lost one hundred and eighty three million dollars. Yes, 127 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: he won one hundred and forty two million dollars, but like, 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: can can we laugh at how bad at gambling this 129 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: guy is? 130 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: Play? 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: Somebody said it on Twitter that has anybody ever gone 132 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: through this much trouble to then not reap, like to 133 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: steal millions without actually holding on to any of it 134 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: getting or getting to reap the benefits of stealing millions 135 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: of dollars. 136 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: Twenty five bets a day, like. 137 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: Like okay, yeah, like he's laughing at himself. I'm not 138 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: so good at this. Okay, let's put ten dollars on this, 139 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: but let's put one hundred and sixty thousand dollars on 140 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: this one, like within the same day. Like that is insane. 141 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: Like when you talk about an addiction, that's that's like 142 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: a what do we call it, a junkie like waiting 143 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: waiting for his next dose, like oh I gotta get 144 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: that bet and oh I gotta get this then like 145 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: it is a illness. It is that point. But then okay, 146 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: so that was twenty like November twenty twenty two. Then 147 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: November twenty twenty three, a year into this gambling addiction 148 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: degenerate behavior. Bookmaker texted, I don't know why you're not 149 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: returning my calls. I'm here in Newport Beach and I 150 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: see Otani walking his dog. I'm just going to go 151 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: up to him and ask how I can get in 152 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: touch with you. Since you're not responding, please call me 153 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: back immediately. 154 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: And then the. 155 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: Final and this is I think where it like kind 156 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: of tipped conspiracy theory theorists a bit. On March twentieth, 157 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, after the news broke that at least 158 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: four point five million had been stolen from Otani, Ipe 159 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: texted the book maker asking if he had seen the news, 160 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: and the bookie said yes, but that's all bowl. Obviously 161 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: you didn't steal from him. I understand it's a cover job. 162 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: I totally get it. And Epa said, well, technically I 163 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: did steal from him. It's all over for me. So 164 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: I think the the human side of it here, right, 165 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: because again it's hard for normies like you and me 166 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: to wrap your head around how do you not notice 167 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: this when you have financial advisors, when you have agents, 168 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 2: when you have everybody helping you try to control millions, 169 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars? 170 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: Right? 171 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: Ipe was Shoheo Tani's guy for everything. He was coming 172 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: to a new country. 173 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: Basically his manager. 174 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: He was his best friend, he was his family again, 175 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: he was his voice, He controlled his English image here 176 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: in the United States. He was communicating for him to 177 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: set up these bank accounts. He was also talking to 178 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the agents and financial advisors, telling them Otani did not 179 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: want them to check in on the that account. Like 180 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: Ipe had one hundred percent of Otani's trust and completely 181 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: took advantage of every opportunity that he could have. And 182 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: when you look at it from Otani's side, like you 183 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: got to feel sad for the kid, Like, how do 184 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: you ever let someone into your life? Like that and 185 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: trust someone like that. 186 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: Again, Oh, I can all best friend, not to this degree, 187 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 4: but I think we've all had those scenarios where someone 188 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: turns out to not be who you think they were, 189 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: and then you question everything everything, the way that you 190 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: evaluate people, the friends that you have, how you trust people, 191 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: like it leads to some crazy trust issues. 192 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh I've talked about that in therapy multiple 193 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: time with people in my life. I'm like, well, now 194 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: what everything doesn't make sense, but this to have that 195 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: kind of money, Like, I still like it's hard for 196 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: me to wrap my head around the fact that he 197 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: lost one. 198 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: Hundred and eighty two million dollars. Yes, he won and 199 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: not like one. 200 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 4: Hundred and forty million, but again, like, if you want 201 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty million dollars, how do you have 202 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: forty million dollars in debt? 203 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: Like that's that's the hard part. 204 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: And then because it is, like you mentioned, an addiction, 205 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 4: there is the other human side of this with epay, 206 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 4: where all right, if he goes to prison and has 207 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: one of these fines, like the US prison system is 208 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: not set up to rehabilitate no, a gambling addiction, and 209 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: I know that that's a mandatory thing within the sentencing 210 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: is a gambling treatment program, but like going to jail 211 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: doesn't rehabilitate. 212 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: Yet do anything. 213 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: And so there's there's that side of it, and there's 214 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 4: also I mean, there is still a nagging thing of like, Okay, 215 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: how did this happen? How is he that much of 216 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: a mastermind? Or is there still more to this story. 217 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not going as far as going into 218 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: the conspiracy. 219 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: I love it. We've all thought it. 220 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: We've all thought it like it's an insane amount of 221 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: money to have that happen and not have any idea. 222 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 4: Any knowledge, any idea, especially when Akshohatani is not a 223 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: dumb guy. 224 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: He's very no but a hundred I will say, because 225 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: like I was, I know both of these guys personally 226 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: from my time as a sideline reporter with the Angels, 227 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: and oh Taani like he didn't do stuff with other 228 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 2: guys on the team, Like he wasn't out at dinners, 229 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: he wasn't going out at night. 230 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: He eat, sleep, breathes baseball, right, Like that was it. 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: That was his sole focus, and it was training because 232 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: again he's a two way player, so he's taking care 233 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: of himself doing his pitching stuff and his hitting stuff 234 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: like that. Everyone always asked me, you know what is 235 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: he like? I'm like, he like, he lives for baseball, yeah, 236 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: lives for baseball. 237 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 238 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: And then he hangs out with EPA twenty four. 239 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: To seven and that's where I was going, And they 240 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: spend every moment. 241 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 3: That's where they were. 242 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: Part of the deposition also said that there was no 243 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: text messages or written communication between the two, mentioning anything 244 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: about wire transfers or bets. That in itself is also 245 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: a little weird to me because I'm like, all right, well, 246 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: if he was in charge of his money, why wouldn't 247 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 4: there be discussions about like wire transfers that are. 248 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: Related to gambling, you know what I mean? Like, why 249 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: isn't there a discussion. 250 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: Of money and any ten every moment together? 251 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: And then I'm like, well, they spend a lot of 252 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: time together, so they don't have to have a paper trail, 253 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: So they're smart enough to not have to discuss this 254 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: stuff over text messages. And as far as we know, 255 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: the like their phone conversations weren't tapped. 256 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 3: So there's there's there's room for there still. 257 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 4: To be some ambiguity here and that's all pointing out. 258 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 4: But then if you really take a step back, you 259 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: realize these guys weren't betting on baseball. Even if I'm 260 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 4: talking was part of this, they're not betting on baseball. 261 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 4: And the only reason that this is such a huge 262 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 4: thing is because the federal investigation into this book maker 263 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: who was working with in within states that gambling is illegal, 264 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 4: and like we're getting now to a broader conversation of 265 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: the fact that this needs to be federally regulated because 266 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 4: it's not okay that like in Chicago, I can place 267 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 4: as many bets as I want to. 268 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 2: It's a double standard right now, Like within within the 269 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: sports betting gambling world, it's like, well you can do 270 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: it if you live here, but you can't do it 271 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: right and you're going to go to jail. And we 272 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: talked about this almost every week here. 273 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: Also, it's like. 274 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: Scrabble to these cities which you're on the road all 275 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: the time, you can gamble gamble when you're there. So 276 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: we promote gambling on all of our shows here. They're 277 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: the Fox Sports Network. Better like betting companies are massive sponsors, 278 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: Like we talk about this all the time, where now 279 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: like the leagues every major league is trying to have 280 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: its cake and eat it too with these betting companies 281 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: where they're taking so much of their money as a sponsor, 282 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: but then imposing all of these crazy rules and often 283 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: they're they're they're very convoluted. Yeah, these convoluted rules for 284 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: these players that they then have to in turn keep 285 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: track of. So you're like, all right, if we're going 286 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: to make sports gambling a thing to the point where 287 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: these leagues are taking money from these companies, there needs 288 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: to be some federal regulation behind it. And it can't 289 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: just be up to the states to decide, Okay, well 290 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 4: in this state you can't do it, and in this 291 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: state you can, because it just it leaves too much 292 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: room for like confusion and whatever. 293 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: For me, the issue isn't the sports gambling part of this. 294 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: It's if he stolele the money, that money from someone 295 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: that had that kind of trust with you. 296 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: That's the part that bothers me. I've made it very 297 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: clear if. 298 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: You're like baseball players can bet on other sports, right 299 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: if you're gambling, I don't care. It's a part of 300 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: our industry. 301 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Now. 302 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: The issue is if that money, if the trust and 303 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: if the trust was broken. 304 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: That's the issue here for me. 305 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: That's the thing that literally that really depends on which 306 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: side of this year on if you're just taking everything 307 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: at face value or you still feel like there is 308 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: some room for, like I said, ambiguity and maybe like 309 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: there wasn't as much foul play as we think. I 310 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: don't know the answer to that, but we all we 311 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: can go off of is this federal investment. 312 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: We're all investigation which everything was handed over to the Feds. 313 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: They don't have any interest to make sure o Tani 314 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: doesn't get in trouble. 315 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: Right right, the Major League Baseball investigation, in which case 316 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: I would be very. 317 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's a whole other can of worms if 318 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: it was that. 319 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: But it is no. 320 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: This is like and again it's not as if Otani 321 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: or Epay were even the focus of this investigation. It 322 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: was the book maker and they just happened to uncover. 323 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: Gosh, and you're just name pop up. It's like check pot. 324 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: They're like, serious, Jeckpot, we got our face of this 325 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: whole investigation. 326 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: I say, they probably got more publicity and stuff for 327 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: this than they bargained. 328 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: For, oh way more. 329 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: The sad part is too that like, however, this all 330 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: turns out. As of right now, Otani is a victim 331 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: of fraud and like getting millions stolen from him. No 332 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: matter what gets like what the verdict is at the end, 333 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: this will follow him for his entire career. We're already 334 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: seeing it. People are divided, people are going to have 335 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: their opinions, and it will. 336 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it seeps into every aspect outside of you know, 337 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: the actual batter's box in his case this year. 338 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: But he's fine. 339 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: Like that's also the other part too, is like how 340 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: mentally strong this kid is to like go out there 341 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: and still absolutely crush the baseball, Like, yeah, that's what 342 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: the best do. 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Listen Over Promised with Cavino and 378 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 8: Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 379 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 8: get your podcasts. 380 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here 381 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally. We're broadcasting live from tark dot com 382 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: Studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending your Saturday 383 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: afternoon with us. I know there is so much going 384 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: on right now. We got the Masters, Happy Masters weekend. 385 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: We got a rematch of the Alcs going on right now. 386 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: Texas and Houston, texing up two nothing, bottom of the 387 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: first bases loaded. Okay, that could change very quickly over 388 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: on FS one. 389 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: But guess what. 390 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: The NBA regular season, you guys, ends tomorrow and it's 391 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: all coming down to the wire, Like this is kind 392 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 2: of what you hope for unless your team's like one 393 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: of the teams in it, which mine is. But we 394 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: have a three way tie at the top of the West. Thunder, Timberwolves, 395 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: and Nuggets are all fifty six and twenty five, so 396 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: many scenarios for the play in So the Battle of 397 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: the West is literally coming down to the last game 398 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: of the regular see. 399 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 4: Top and the bottom yeah of the Yeah, like the 400 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: playoff top seed for. 401 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: The play in tournament. 402 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: Okay, so I have the scenarios, So stick with me 403 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: here if you want, If you want to get this, Okay, 404 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: let's start with the one seed. If the Timberwolves and 405 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: the Thunder win and the Nuggets lose, the Timberwolves will 406 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: be one Thunder two Nuggets three. If the Timberwolves and 407 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: Nuggets win and the Thunder loose. Oh no, I think 408 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: I just said to read. 409 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: Nope. 410 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: See I'm even getting confused. Timberwolves would be one Nuggets, 411 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: two Thunder three. If Nuggets and Thunder win and Timberwolves lose, 412 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: then Thunder would be one, Nuggets two Wolves would be three. 413 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 2: If all three teams have the same results Sunday, the 414 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: Thunder would be the one seed, Timberwolves would be the 415 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: two seed. 416 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: Nuggets would be the three seeds. 417 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: So the Nuggets can only get the one seed if 418 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: they win and the Thunder and Timberwolves both loose. 419 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Gosh, I don't miss these scenarios. When you're one of 420 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: these teams and. 421 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: You're like, can I just like win and you're in 422 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: like that's my favorite kind of mentality. 423 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: Where you control your own destiny. 424 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: And tomorrow, so the matchups tomorrow, Nuggets are at the Grizzlies. 425 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so at the Timberwolves. 426 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 4: The MAVs are at the Thunder, and they all play 427 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 4: at Easter. 428 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: The thing is so, so Denver's at the the road. 429 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: Uh, Denver is, yes, on the road. 430 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: So that's. 431 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 3: Honestly, Denver the Wolves. 432 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: Are the only ones that are oh no, no, the 433 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 4: Wolves and the Thunder about the home. 434 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's actually good for the other guys because 435 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: Denver is an incredible home team. They have an insane 436 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: home record of thirty three and eight at home this season. 437 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: So this is, you know, obviously defending champs. They have 438 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: the best player in the league. Joker is probably gonna 439 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: win his third ENVP this season. So if they lock 440 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: up that home court advantage, and if that scenario happens 441 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: where they get that top seed, like I whichever playing 442 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: team is going to be playing them, Like, who I 443 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: feel bad? 444 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 445 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 4: I mean if you're if you're a playing team, you 446 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: don't care which one of these guys, I don't think. 447 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: No, you just want to get as the top seed. 448 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the playing teams, cause again there are 449 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: a lot of scenarios. Okay, So the Suns get the 450 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: sixth seed with a win and Pelican loss, otherwise will 451 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 2: be a seventh seed. If the Lakers defeat the Pelicans, 452 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: they will stay at the eighth seed. If the Kings win, 453 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: they can't go lower than the nine seed. If the 454 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: Kings win and Lakers lose, the Kings jump over them 455 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: to the A spot since they own the tiebreaker over 456 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: the Lakers. If both the Lakers and Kings lose, the 457 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: Warriors can still get that A seed with a win 458 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: over the Jazz. So for the Lakers, you just got 459 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 2: to win, yes, And I obviously you guys are listening. 460 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: I am rocking like a vintage Ryan Stone Lakers jersey. 461 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: I just the biggest thing from mere here. I love 462 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: to see the Stars play in the postseason. I want 463 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: to see Lebron James. I want to see Steph Curry 464 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: go off. So I don't want them to be the 465 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 2: nine and the ten seed to where they're going to 466 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: be playing each other and whoever loses is out, like 467 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: I want at least obviously Lakers looking like it's gonna happen, 468 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: gonna get that eight seed if they can win, so 469 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: there's at least two opportunities to play and hopefully get 470 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: into the postseason. It's just better for everybody when the 471 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: stars are in it, and I just. 472 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 3: Well, what wild is? Like, I mean, Lebron has done 473 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: has been Lebron? 474 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah for what? 475 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: So he didn't play April seven against the Timberwolves, but 476 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: all four of the last games that he's played, he 477 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 4: scored at least thirty six points. Yeah, Like he is 478 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 4: putting this team on his back and wheeling them into. 479 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: It's Lebron James. He's still that guy. He is that guy, 480 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: and he's. 481 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: Like he's talked about it in multiple postgame interviews recently, like, oh, 482 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 2: you're hanging it up soon. 483 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: He's like, it's close. 484 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: You have that bronni has and there's talk that the 485 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: Lakers draft that's always like his dream is to play 486 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: with this son. 487 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: I know there's so much going on, but tomorrow. 488 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: You guys who. 489 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Eastern Conference, the Celtics are fourteen games ahead. They've 490 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 4: like but absolutely no mystery as to who the top 491 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 4: seed is there. But it doesn't get a little interesting 492 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: between the Bucks and the Knicks, they're they're tied at fourteen. 493 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: They're both fourteen games back. 494 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then my Chicago Bulls, Yeah, they just live. 495 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 3: They they live in the play. 496 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: It's just they're they're the perpetual playing tournament team and 497 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 4: they don't really go much farther than that. 498 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: They're like, you have the playoffs, you had your time. 499 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 4: Let's say that was so long ago, Alex, I barely 500 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: remember it, and we're approaching thirty years ago. 501 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: At this point. 502 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: So the Bulls are due for another dynasty, but I 503 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: don't see it happening anytime sooner. 504 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 3: That's something. 505 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: Okay, Now let's check out with Nick Coopnze. What's trending? 506 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: All right, thank you very much. 507 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 7: We're monitoring the third round of the Masters. Scottie Scheffler 508 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 7: still it's up the leader board. One under for his 509 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 7: round today. He is seven under for the tournament, holding 510 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 7: a one shot lead on both Max Homa and Colin Morikalla. 511 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 7: Morikalla one of the biggest movers today, three under four 512 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 7: his round. He also have Bryson Deshamba falling a little 513 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 7: bit today. He was tied for the lead along with 514 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 7: Scheffler and Homa. 515 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: At the start of the day. 516 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 7: He has won over now sitting two shots back along 517 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 7: with three other golfers Tiger Woods. He did get himself 518 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 7: into the top twenty at one point today, but he 519 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 7: has faltered on the back nine plus seven for his round, 520 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 7: now eight over for the tournament in a tie for 521 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 7: forty six. Baseball News, the Braves announced pitcher Spencer Streider 522 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 7: had surgery to repair the UCL in his throwing elbow. 523 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 7: He will miss the rest of the season. A couple 524 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 7: of finals on the field already today. Yankees edge the 525 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 7: Guardians three to two. That's game one of a doubleheader 526 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 7: in Cleveland. Twins and Tigers went to extras. Minnesota ended 527 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 7: up with the blowout win, eleven to five in twelve innings. 528 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 7: No games in the NBA today, as you guys have 529 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 7: touched on. They'll finish the regular season tomorrow. And in 530 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 7: league news, The Athletic reports former Bucks coach Mike Budenholzer 531 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 7: is among the finalists to be the next head coach 532 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 7: of the Brooklyn Nets, and the executor of OJ Simpson's 533 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 7: estate said he will fight payouts to the families of 534 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 7: ex wife Nicole Brown and friend Ron Goldman. Simpson died Wednesday, 535 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 7: having not paid most of the civil judgment awarded back 536 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 7: in nineteen ninety seven. Alex Carmen back to you. 537 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: Ugh, yikes, I know, I just a whole lot of yike. Yeah, 538 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: we're still not done with this. 539 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thank you? Sorry, Oh Jay, I'm like, yeah, no, murderer. Okay. 540 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here 541 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from the Tire 542 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: dot Com Studios in Los Angeles, and it is time 543 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: for our first guest, one of the smartest minds on TV. 544 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 2: She's NFL Networks analytics expert, my bestie. Let's welcome in 545 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: Cynthia Freeland. 546 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: Smartest minds period. 547 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 9: Hi Cynthia, Hi, Hi guys. 548 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 5: How are you? 549 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: Oh great, We're great. Longtime no talk. 550 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were already telling everybody off top of the 551 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: show everything we're about to talk about. We were all 552 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: breaking down last night. You've been following this path to 553 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: the draft for a while now, right we're officially twelve 554 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: days away. This is a stacked quarterback draft with a 555 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: lot of teams needing a guy. So what big trades, 556 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 2: if any, do you think we're going to see leading 557 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: up to the draft to try to get one of 558 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: those top spots and. 559 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: Get a quarterback. 560 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 9: You know, I don't know if we'll necessarily see it 561 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 9: before the draft, starts. But it feels like the Minnesota 562 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 9: Vikings are getting enough ammo by trading into getting two 563 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 9: picks in the first round to be able to go 564 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 9: up and snag their guy. Should someone like a trade partner, 565 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 9: maybe like Cardinals or Yeah, or maybe even the Chargers. 566 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 9: It's always a little bit more digestible for me if 567 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 9: it's you know, you're almost never going to get like 568 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 9: like I was saying this the other day, like the 569 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 9: Bengals are not trading with the Bills, Like that's not happening. 570 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 5: They just won't do. 571 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: That, right, You can't. 572 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 9: But you could the Cardinals, and that might be a 573 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 9: far enough reach just because it's still NFC, but even 574 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 9: more likely should you know, obviously you'd have to wait 575 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 9: one more pick. But Chargers could be a good a 576 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 9: good point too. 577 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: I think a lot about that. 578 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 4: And but what stops me from thinking that they could 579 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: fall too far or even to that Charger's pick, because 580 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: because Minnesota isn't the only one trying to move up 581 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: for a quarterback or potentially isn't the only one you have, 582 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: like Sean Payton in Denver, just nothing is off the table, 583 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 4: I feel like with him, but he does and the 584 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: Raiders as well. I mean, how much of a bidding 585 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 4: war are we going to see? And does that do 586 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: you think that's going to make forward interesting play for 587 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: how high these teams can trade and therefore have to 588 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: overpay to get their guys. 589 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 9: Oh, I mean, Sean Payton's such a wild card because 590 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 9: I feel like he could be sending this smoke screen 591 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 9: to us and then be like, haha, just kidding, I'm 592 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 9: ticking some sort of corner. Like I mean not to 593 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 9: say like that. I think he's set with his quarterback room, 594 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 9: but I just feel like I have no idea what 595 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 9: he's thinking, but in the best way possible, right, Like 596 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 9: it's something's good to be not predictable. But you know, 597 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 9: I think that when I'm looking at the Raiders, it 598 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 9: feels to me so for me if I had to 599 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 9: pair them with kind of most likely given where they'd 600 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 9: be trading, because you know, Sean doesn't have a ton 601 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 9: of equity to work with St. John, to me feels like, 602 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 9: you know, if you're a bo Nicks fan, that could 603 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 9: be you know, maybe bo Nicks fans are now doing 604 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 9: those fans and you know, Michael Pennick Junior has been 605 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 9: sort of inked to the Raiders in some particular way. 606 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 9: I don't know if that necessarily comes to fruition right away. 607 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 9: I don't know if they'd have to trade to get there, 608 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 9: because it kind of feels like there's four that people 609 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 9: have now you know there were there were three, you know, 610 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 9: obviously Williams and Daniels and Drake May and then kJ 611 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 9: McCarthy's were like snuck his way in there, and that 612 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 9: would be because of Jim Harbaugh helping to grease. 613 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 5: The wheel there. 614 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 9: But you know, it's it seems like those four have 615 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 9: kind of gotten to some sort of top echelon, and 616 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 9: then after that there's like the Michael Pennix junior situation 617 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 9: and then like a Bonix. So it'll be it'll be 618 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 9: interesting to see how it shakes out. But it would 619 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 9: be very difficult for me to see the Broncos going 620 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 9: up so far that they could mess with the equity 621 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 9: that the Minnesota Vikings has because they have those two 622 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 9: picks and you could pair them together. 623 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: So you got the Vikings at eleven, you got the 624 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: Broncos at twelve, the Raiders at thirteen, and these are 625 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: the three teams that like really, you know, need a 626 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: franchise guy. So, how many quarterbacks do you think will 627 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: go in the top ten and will if they don't 628 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: move up, will they have a chance to get any 629 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: of those guys? 630 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 9: You know, I think that the Chargers will trade down. 631 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 9: I think that we'll see four in the top ten. 632 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 9: I don't know if we're going to see more than that. 633 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 9: I do think four is a is a pretty solid 634 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 9: number for the top ten. You have to remember this 635 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 9: is an epic offensive line class. Like Joe Alt is, 636 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 9: you know, probably the consensus number one, and he's an 637 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 9: actual left tackle. If that some people have been playing 638 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 9: right and people submits forget that it's very difficult to 639 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 9: go from one. 640 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 5: Side to the other. 641 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 642 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 9: So, but but I mean, and Joe all is only 643 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 9: going to be twenty two when the season starts. I 644 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 9: means he was born in two thousand and two. 645 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 3: No, No, didn't mean to go there, hello exactly. 646 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 9: But my point being is, like, you know, you think about, like, wow, 647 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 9: it could be like this amazing pick for ten years. No, No, 648 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 9: he could be an amazing pick for twelve years, which 649 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 9: is like a really long time. So I think a 650 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 9: couple of these teams might surprise us, like the Tennessee Titans. 651 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 9: There's no way on God's green earth they would let it. 652 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 9: You know, Joe Alt would not fall behind past the 653 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 9: Titans if they don't have to trade up to get him. 654 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 9: So and it's it's not maybe so sexy. I mean 655 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 9: it's sexy for me because like that was my masters 656 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 9: thesis is on these big men, but you know for 657 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 9: other people, maybe not so sexy exactly, Maybe not so 658 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 9: sexy to think about, you know, those big but they're 659 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 9: super important, and you know the some people value versatility. 660 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 9: So like the police of like you could you could 661 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 9: get some people who think that like a Gardish tackle 662 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 9: could be more valuable than in prior years. We're like, 663 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 9: oh a guard no, so you know those the old 664 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 9: lineman could throw a rench in it, and so could 665 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 9: the wide receivers. 666 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna see I think also we're seeing a 667 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: guard renaissance this year as well, where I think the 668 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 4: value is going back up because of like what you said, 669 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: the versatility versus. 670 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: Also, people are just. 671 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: Realizing how sophisticated NFL defenses are getting and their defensive 672 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: tackles are getting. So you need guards and centers that 673 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 4: are really athletic. But I want I need to talk 674 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 4: to you about the Patriot Cynthia, because I really want 675 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: to understand, like, are they self aware enough to know that? 676 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: Like to me, I'm totally team Hall with them, Like 677 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 4: if they strade down, they could get so many pigs 678 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 4: and really accelerate their rebuild. But I get that, you 679 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: know you're not always picking in the top three. This 680 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 4: quarterback class is really good. I see both sides of it, 681 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: So I just I need to get your opinion on 682 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 4: what you think the Patriots would or will do versus 683 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 4: should do. Also, well, A it's a differentiation. 684 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 9: I have to give them some credit for no matter what. 685 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 9: Being so stoic, I have no idea what to expect 686 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 9: from them. You know, you have a regime change, and 687 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 9: you're following the most legendary coach of our lifetime. It's 688 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 9: never going to be an easy ask. But they've not 689 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 9: really given you any sort of indication of how they're 690 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 9: thinking it all. I personally would tell them to trade down, 691 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 9: not because I don't believe that the third best quarterback 692 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 9: would be a good pick, but because I don't think 693 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 9: they're one quarterback away from being in the position to 694 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 9: contend in a meaningful way, and if you have this opportunity, 695 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 9: you never have an opportunity like this, like the legendary 696 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 9: coach leaves. So after the legendary quarterback left a few 697 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 9: years prior, like you do get you know, your fans 698 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 9: as much as they want to win right this moment, 699 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 9: you get a little grace from them, and that never 700 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 9: happens the Chicago So you know, like you have, you 701 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 9: have like this great opportunity to do something a little 702 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 9: bit different and kind of project for the future. I 703 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 9: would I would, I would probably try to you know, 704 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 9: not go quarterback, But again I I don't know what 705 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 9: you know. We always have to remember like owners have 706 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 9: their own you know, they own teams for a reason, 707 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 9: and they have their own influence. Each each owner has 708 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 9: a different influence on the team. 709 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 5: So while I. 710 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 9: Would like to say that I am not Rabbit Kraft 711 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 9: and I don't have as many rings as him, so 712 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 9: you know, we will see what he wants. 713 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Cynthia, I know you spend majority of your preseason 714 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: with the Bills. Big trade last week sending Stefon Diggs 715 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: to the Texans. Do you think Buffalo can recover from. 716 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: Such a big hole like this? And is it too 717 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: much pressure that they're putting on Josh Allen to carry 718 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: this team. 719 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 9: Well, I mean Tom Brady added some pressure to him. 720 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 9: I think yesterday he said something like Josh Allen's the 721 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 9: next quarterback who hasn't wanted a Super Bowl to win one. 722 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 9: So I was like, Okay, Tom Brady's out here saying 723 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 9: this in its three tier. But this is to me, 724 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 9: this is Josh Allen's legacy year. Not that I think that, 725 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 9: not that I don't think he's already proven a ton, 726 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 9: but when you go from like like I would say, 727 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 9: he's he's been an elite performer, but when you talk 728 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 9: about like historical elites, this could pull him into that 729 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 9: next echelon. The Bills have some other needs as well. 730 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 9: Go look at their cornerback roster. It's kind of confusing 731 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 9: and go look at what's going on. You know, obviously 732 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 9: wide receiver. Maybe maybe we think Curtis Samuel is like 733 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 9: I think the pendulums slung too far. He's not, as 734 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 9: means worked bad, but that's not the right word. But 735 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 9: you know, people are like, oh he's great, Oh he's terrible, 736 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 9: like we got to stop doing not like he's good 737 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 9: he's not elite, right, Okay, So if they can find 738 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 9: themselves in the fortunate position where they get like a 739 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 9: Brian Thomas junior true outside guy, or even add maybe 740 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 9: two wide receivers, I think they'd be just fine. And 741 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 9: Troy Frank who went for he did one of his 742 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 9: all thirty visits there last week sometime. I can't remember 743 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 9: which day, but Kurk wrinkly it could be a good 744 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 9: one too, because you know, you have to remember, Josh 745 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 9: Allen throws the ball really really hard. Like you know, 746 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 9: we're just doing some math. It was like fifteen of 747 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 9: the top twenty hardest thrown balls over the past two 748 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 9: seasons all Josh Allen. Yeah, and that was something that 749 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 9: he experienced at Oregon. So you're kind of lessening the 750 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 9: you know, the learning curve from college to NFL. If 751 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 9: you get a guy who's used to catching really hard 752 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 9: thrown ball. 753 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: Love it, Cynthia, love you. Thank you for joining us always. 754 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 5: You got it. 755 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 9: Thanks for having me. 756 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks boob bye, guys. 757 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: Back all right, guys, when we come back, it is 758 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: the dues and the don'ts in sports. 759 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 760 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 761 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 762 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 763 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 6: listen live. 764 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here 765 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from Tier dot 766 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: com studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending your 767 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon with Carmie and me. And since it's the 768 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 2: bottom of the for the end of the first hour, 769 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 2: it only means one thing. It's time for the dues 770 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 2: and adults in sports. 771 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: Guys highlight. 772 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 6: I love that putting the spotlight on the dont. 773 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: The subject brings me no joy? 774 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: Are you on crack? 775 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 6: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports. 776 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go first, and everyone's been talking about this. 777 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: I've seen both sides, but do honor your stars appropriately please. 778 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: The Sixers unveiled a mini Allen Iverson sculpture outside of 779 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: their practice facility. 780 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: And now this is what they do. 781 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: Okay, this is not like abnormal like all the statues 782 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: they have are these like mini mini satur. 783 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 3: Choose it's outside practice facility. 784 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: But when you but when you this is like their 785 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 2: only statues that they have. So it's like when you 786 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: are honoring the biggest names for your franchise. 787 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: And they have to bend down. 788 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: Next to this little thing and take a phone as 789 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 2: the tallest of NBA, it looks so weird and so 790 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: small and like, yeah, okay, be gratefully. 791 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: You have a statue. Cool, but like, if you're gonna 792 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: do a statue, do a statue. It's nothing. 793 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 3: They're like, legitimately the sides. 794 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: It's so silly. Be better give them a give them 795 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: a big statue. 796 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 4: All right, I'm doing d's and don't a little differently 797 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 4: for this one, because this is a question, Oh do. 798 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: You or don't you clear out your inbox? There are 799 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 3: two kinds of people. 800 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 4: This is this is our our good friend Michael Junior, 801 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 4: our good friend mena times. They were on with Pablo 802 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 4: Torre and they discovered basically that there are two kinds 803 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 4: of people. People that have thousands of emails that they 804 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 4: have not cleared, or people that have maybe ten and 805 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 4: spoiler alert, they marry each other. 806 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 3: But uh, huh, which one are you? 807 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: Oh? Oh you mean the seventy eight seven hundred, Oh okay, 808 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: did I have my phone? 809 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 3: Okay, my god, I was. 810 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 4: I was almost convinced that you were one of the 811 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 4: people that like clears everything out. So the thing is, 812 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 4: I have three supparate email addresses that I use. Okay, 813 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 4: I have my work one. I have my Gmail that 814 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 4: I actually paid interest to you, and then I have 815 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 4: my junk one. 816 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 817 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 4: So my junk one and my Gmail are together one 818 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty one thousand. 819 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 820 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 4: And then my work one has one hundred that I 821 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 4: haven't cleared out yet from the week and I will. 822 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll clear that one out. I'll clear out my 823 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 3: email with the junk one on the Gmail. 824 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: On your computer, it separates them for you, so I 825 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 2: don't see all the junk stuff, but on my phone 826 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: it's all there. And my husband and my sister laid like, 827 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: everyone is like gives them mad at my boyfriend is 828 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm like. 829 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 3: What are you doing? Yeah, he has all of them 830 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 3: and clear out and I'm like, I don't know what 831 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 3: you're doing. 832 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: Stop, okay, whatever, Okay, time for a don't don't overdo it. 833 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson again said playing for Mike Tollman and the 834 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: Steelers is one of the greatest gifts of his life, 835 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 2: Like we know this is not one of the greatest 836 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 2: gifts of your life. Your wife, children, your kids are 837 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: your faith is. We know you're a big faith man. 838 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 2: This just feels like once again Russ is doing too 839 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: much and trying to like over like. 840 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: Get like trying to do what he thinks he's supposed 841 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: to do it. It's a try hard. This is a 842 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: try hard, all right. 843 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 3: Real quick. 844 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 4: I have a don't gaslight your fan base into thinking 845 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 4: you're sticking around. And then all of a sudden relocated 846 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 4: to Salt Lake City and I worked for them in 847 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 4: college and it wasn't the best thing in the world 848 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 4: because they were playing out on Glendale at the time. 849 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 2: I've been there, not covering the cakes right middle of nowhere, 850 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: middle like not many people come. 851 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 4: Not many people come, but they playing at Arizona State's 852 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 4: hockey year, yeah, which has like a capacity of like 853 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 4: if it's five. 854 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 2: I think about the families now that have to like 855 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: uprout their entire lives. 856 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 3: And go to SARASIV. 857 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 4: She does a great job covering the NHL she was 858 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 4: talking about She talked to a lot of the families 859 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 4: that are like, well, now what and they could still 860 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 4: go back if the owner right. 861 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: Be better, all right, but we come back no. Twelve 862 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 2: days to the draft. What you keep an eye on 863 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 2: that's coming up next. Welcome to our two of Fox 864 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry alongside Carmen Vitally. Thank you 865 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 2: for spending your Saturday afternoon. 866 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: With CARMEI and me. We know there is so much 867 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: going on right now. 868 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: We've got the Masters on, Happy Masters weekend, MLB's going 869 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 2: on everywhere. It's the last weekend of the NBA regular season. 870 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 2: If you're just joining us and missed that first hour 871 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: of us breaking it down, you guys, there are so 872 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: much coming down to tomorrow in the West. I mean, 873 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: we have a three way tie at the top of 874 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 2: the West, Thunder, Timberwolves, Nuggets, like so many sin and 875 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: then so many scenarios for the play in at the 876 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: bottom of the West, like where everybody's gonna land, who 877 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 2: they're gonna play. Every team will play their last game tomorrow. 878 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: So if you're not a fan of one of those teams, 879 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: it's really fun. If you're a fan of one of 880 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 2: those teams, like me, the Lakers, and I'm rocking my 881 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 2: Lakers gear right now, it's. 882 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 1: A little bit of a stomach ache. But like, just win. 883 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 2: That's all you gotta worry about. That's all you can do, 884 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: control your own destiny. 885 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, and even if you don't, just control what you 886 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 4: can control, you know what I mean. Like it's just 887 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 4: you can't do any more than that. You can worry 888 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 4: about more than that, but you can't do. 889 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: Is it that like a life lesson? Like you know, 890 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 2: all you can control in life is how you react 891 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: to situations and what you do. So like in sports, win, 892 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 2: don't worry about everybody else. But like boy, oh belly aches, nerves, excitement, 893 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: like everything coming down to the last. 894 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: Game of the regular season. That's pretty cool, guys. We 895 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: have a great hour two for you. 896 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: We have Fox Sports NFC East reporter Ralph Fauciano joining 897 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 2: us in thirty minutes. We'll keep you updated on everything 898 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 2: going on, the Master's Madness, all the baseball games going 899 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 2: on today. We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot 900 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 2: com studios in Los Angeles. Tyreck dot com will help 901 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: you get there an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free 902 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers. 903 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: Tyreck dot com the way tire buying should be so 904 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: guess what. 905 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 2: We are officially twelve days two away from the NFL Draft, 906 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: where lifelong dreams come true. And boy do we have 907 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 2: an exciting draft class. I mean it is a stacked 908 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 2: quarterback class. We've got some great receivers, some great o linemen. 909 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 2: I mean, this is gonna be an exciting first. 910 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: Round, a lot of movement. 911 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: So what we're gonna do, We're gonna help you out 912 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 2: and share some things that you should maybe keep an 913 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: eye on leading up to the draft. Things, you know, 914 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 2: just kind of fun to watch, cool to notice. 915 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 9: Now. 916 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 2: I think we all know at this point, we do 917 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 2: who's going first in the draft. We spend a lot 918 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 2: of time talking about that number one pick to the Bears. 919 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: So on the counter of three, let's say the number 920 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 2: one overall pick one two three cabs. 921 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, but guy's gonna try and throw you off there. 922 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 3: But then there's no mystery. 923 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 1: No, there's no mystery. 924 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 2: But what I do love seeing recently is we're seeing 925 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 2: Caleb's personality come out a little bit. 926 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: The last few months. He's been getting picked apart. 927 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 2: His nails, his phone case, being too emotional, which you know, 928 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 2: top prospects will get picked apart. 929 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: But Caleb's finally standing up for himself. 930 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 2: And this week it was Greg McElroy made a comment 931 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 2: that Caleb has never experienced adversity, saying, I do wonder 932 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 2: if there's a sense of entitlement, is there a chip 933 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: on his shoulders that's going to keep him going ten 934 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: to twelve years down the road the way it does 935 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 2: mahomes and Caleb clapped back, he said, let's go back 936 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: to school again, because you know what on board right now. 937 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 2: Adversity a state or instance of serious or continued difficulty 938 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 2: or misfortune. Year one didn't start freshman year, Year two 939 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 2: popped a HAMI in championship game first quarter, lost because 940 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: of my hammy Year three, seven and five in my 941 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 2: last year. 942 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: Of college ball. 943 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: So again, like a little reminder to everybody, Caleb was 944 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: putting in the work at USC last year and was 945 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 2: fighting a losing battle. USC had the one hundred and 946 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 2: twentieth ranked defense out of one hundred and thirty three. 947 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 4: And that's not even counting his offensive line, absolute piece meal. 948 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 3: He had a lot, he did not have help, and honestly, 949 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't. 950 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 4: Even think that that's like the worst that we've even 951 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 4: seen Caleb Williams have to go through because he is 952 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 4: being picked apart, Yes, he didn't even mention the fact 953 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 4: that there has been this discourse about him for now 954 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 4: years year. 955 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: Well, I think since everyone realized he was going to 956 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 2: be the number one overall pick, and it's been so 957 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 2: long that it was like everyone knows, you know, Like 958 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 2: it was just like there's no question. There's always like, oh, 959 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 2: could be this person. No, everybody's no what's wild. 960 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 4: What's wild to me too, is like we talk about 961 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 4: the new normal with nil and transfer portal in college 962 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 4: football and how these guys are coming out of college 963 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 4: now as businessman having made millions of dollars like Williams has. 964 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 4: But what we're also seeing as the new normal is 965 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 4: these guys who have grown up with social media. He 966 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 4: is that like generation. 967 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 3: They're all because you're, you know, athletes. 968 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 4: There's I love the Twitter example or the tweet from 969 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 4: Carter donnic that says, you know, this is a cub tweet, 970 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 4: this is a wide receiver tweet, this is a tight 971 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,439 Speaker 4: end tweet like dirt. 972 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 3: I love all of that. 973 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 4: But we're used to we're used to people to put 974 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 4: these athletes in a box when it comes to their 975 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 4: social media. Now, these guys coming out are like, no, 976 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 4: like I've grown up with this. This is a second 977 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 4: language to me. 978 00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: It is. 979 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: You're gonna get to see. 980 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 4: More of their personality on social media because they're actually preticipatory. 981 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a comfort zone, right, Yeah, it's on their terms. 982 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 3: It's on there. 983 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: They don't have to go to the mass media. 984 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 4: It's like and they also, like a lot of them 985 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 4: handle their own social media, like I mean, obviously some 986 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 4: of them have teams and stuff like that, but a 987 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 4: lot of them do just handle their own because it's 988 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 4: something that they've always done. So you do get to 989 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 4: see these little quips and the clap bags and all 990 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 4: that other stuff. 991 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 2: But I love it because I think it shows like 992 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 2: you ain't gonna mess with me. 993 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 1: And also I think he's gonna be just fine in Chicago. 994 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I again, that was like added like 995 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 2: I hate adding. 996 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 4: A qualifier of like, oh fine if he wins, even 997 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 4: if he doesn't win, he's going to be okay. He 998 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 4: has fought through some things that usd end knows what 999 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 4: that's like. So I absolutely think he's gonna be fine. Yes, 1000 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 4: leaning up to the so the Bears are technically in 1001 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 4: control of the draft, but because they have the first 1002 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 4: overall pick and the. 1003 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 3: Ninth for that matter. 1004 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 4: Yes, but it's far from like I said, there's no mystery. 1005 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 4: So like the way the draft is going to is 1006 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 4: going to be contingent on so many other teams. 1007 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so who you watching the. 1008 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 4: Next team that I'm looking at? Well, honestly, there's something 1009 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 4: to talk about with anything. But we're gonna talk to 1010 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 4: Ralph Baciano about who the Commanders are going to take. 1011 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 3: A number two. 1012 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 4: Going back to what we talked to Cynthia about, I 1013 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 4: need to know what the Patriots are gonna do. 1014 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: And nobody knows and nobody else so quiet about it. 1015 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 4: And I think Cynthia's right. I think we're not gonna 1016 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 4: know until Draft night. Yeah, but I love it. It's 1017 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 4: going to tell me a lot of how this is 1018 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,720 Speaker 4: going to go for the Patriots, like what they decide 1019 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 4: to do at three, Like if they decide to take 1020 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 4: the quarterback, then I then you know for a fact 1021 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 4: that that's that's. 1022 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 3: Probably Robert Kraft's influence. 1023 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 6: Yep. 1024 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 3: If they trade down, then. 1025 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they're given. 1026 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 4: Y'all are really pretty self aware and you do want 1027 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 4: to take this time and take that grace that you're 1028 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 4: gonna get from your fan base right now that Cynthia 1029 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 4: was talking about, and accelerate this rebuild as much as possible, 1030 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 4: because that is the responsible thing to do. 1031 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1032 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 4: But Robert Craft being at this stage of life, chapter 1033 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,240 Speaker 4: of life, uh huh, I understand a sense of urgency. 1034 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: I mean he also like recently got married too, right, 1035 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: so he's not taken this like end chapter of life 1036 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: as like I'm not pretending it. 1037 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 4: To no billionaire dynamics here or social norms or whatever 1038 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 4: it is. 1039 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 3: But I do think that. 1040 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 4: So much of what determined success at the NFL level 1041 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 4: for a quarterback, especially taken in the first round, is 1042 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 4: the situation that he goes into. 1043 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 3: We talked so much. 1044 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 2: Question that you have the weapons that you have, You're 1045 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 2: not going to be successful without either of those great 1046 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 2: and either pieces. 1047 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 3: You're a good. 1048 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 4: Organization with a coach that can teach and really acclimate 1049 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 4: you to the league. So you look at Chicago and 1050 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,959 Speaker 4: for once in my life, they're actually set up for 1051 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback to come in between Shane Waldron, who's 1052 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 4: a really good teacher at offensive coordinator, between the investments 1053 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 4: they made in the offensive line, the weapons on offense, 1054 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 4: and then a defense that could be top five defense 1055 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 4: in the league next year. Yeah, because that's how they 1056 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 4: finished last season. You look at the Patriots and you. 1057 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 3: Don't see any anything. 1058 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: Do they have so much wet, so much work. 1059 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 3: You're gonna get. 1060 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 4: I'm watching very closely to see how self aware the 1061 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 4: Patriots are. 1062 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and who's in control right now? Really? Okay? 1063 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: Now, because we have so many exciting quarterbacks in this draft, 1064 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 2: as we've talked about and our first two things to 1065 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 2: look out for. Another thing is you could see a 1066 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 2: couple big traits as you mentioned with the Patriots. It 1067 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 2: might not be until day of draft, but the Cardinals 1068 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 2: have made it known that they want a similar deal 1069 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 2: that Miami got from the forty nine ers when they 1070 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: traded down from the number three spot in twenty twenty 1071 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,959 Speaker 2: one and got three first round picks and one third 1072 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,879 Speaker 2: round pick. So what teams would be willing to do 1073 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 2: that for the third or fourth that sees the quarterback. 1074 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 4: I'm wearing the shirt of the team equipped to do 1075 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:00,800 Speaker 4: that right now. 1076 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 3: Yep. 1077 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is I have. 1078 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah vikings, guys. 1079 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have Vikings, Broncos, Raiders, Seahawks, I think 1080 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 2: as the big teams that could do something. Vikings being 1081 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 2: a Karmi shirt, I think, I think the biggest. 1082 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 4: They're one of only three teams that has multiple first 1083 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:24,479 Speaker 4: round picks. 1084 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have two first round picks this year. Cartners 1085 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 2: would move down to eleven and twenty three, which isn't 1086 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: that much of a move for the Vikings to get 1087 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 2: up and get a big quarterback. And the Vikings have 1088 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 2: been really vocal about taking a quarterback. Yeah, they have 1089 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, but like he's a bridge, he's a bridge quarterback. 1090 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 2: He's not your future, which could also be great for 1091 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 2: a rookie quarterbacks development to work with or behind him 1092 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 2: for however long that may. 1093 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 4: It's a really good setup in Minnesota. And like I said, 1094 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 4: there were a great team. They've got weapons, You've got 1095 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 4: a former quarterback at head coach, you've got a former 1096 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 4: quarterback as the quarterbacks coach, and you have a really 1097 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 4: good defense that's capable of winning you some games. So 1098 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 4: and you can ease him in because you have Sam Donald. 1099 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 4: Because you had Sam Donald ten million dollars, I fully 1100 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 4: expect Sam Donald to be the starter of the Minnesota 1101 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 4: Vikings when it comes to Week one. 1102 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: As he should out of the gates. 1103 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 4: So you can ease whoever it is that you draft 1104 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 4: into this and you can have a little bit more 1105 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 4: patience and flexibility. But the Vikings are the only team. 1106 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 4: So what's wild, though, is the other two teams that 1107 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 4: have two first round picks. Yeah, one of them is 1108 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. So the airs are Cardinals coming out 1109 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 4: and saying we want three first round picks and a 1110 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 4: third rounder. 1111 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, you are just you are gluttonous. 1112 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't tell you. I don't believe that 1113 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 4: you have you call on the board. You wilieve in 1114 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray. So you say so you don't need a quarterback. Yeah, theoretically, 1115 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 4: So why not turn it down and just have this 1116 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 4: embarrassment of draft capital over the next couple of years. 1117 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,439 Speaker 4: Because the other team that has two first round picks 1118 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 4: is the Bears, and they're going to use the first 1119 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 4: one on Caleb so they really it doesn't really even 1120 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 4: count as two first round picks. It does, but it doesn't. 1121 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 4: It's just very interesting. But the Vikings are uniquely positioned 1122 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 4: because of the trade with Houston. Yeah, where they got 1123 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 4: the twenty third pick pick as well. Yep, they are 1124 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 4: uniquely positioned to go up and get one of these spots, 1125 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 4: trade out to go and get one of their quarterbacks. 1126 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 4: But what Washington does at number two, I think is 1127 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 4: also going to heavily effect on how high the Vikings 1128 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 4: end up trading up. 1129 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the other two teams that could 1130 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 2: trade up are one, two, three like Vikings Broncos Raiders. 1131 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 2: So let's let's talk about Broncos because they're at twelve 1132 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: right below the. 1133 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 3: Vikings have as much draft capital. 1134 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: They don't. They spent a lot on Russell Wilson. 1135 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 3: And we all know how that was handicapped. 1136 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 2: But Sean Bayton, this could be his opportunity to get 1137 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 2: his guy. They're obviously not afraid to make big trades 1138 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 2: for a quarterback, as we saw with Russ that didn't 1139 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 2: pan out the way that you know, everybody hoped, but 1140 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 2: that's going to be interesting. And then the Raiders at thirteen, 1141 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 2: they do have Aidan O'Connell, they signed Gardner Minshew, but 1142 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,479 Speaker 2: they don't have their franchise guy. And again a new 1143 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 2: coach and like who wants to create a name for 1144 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 2: himself I mean, he already has the locker room like 1145 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 2: they like. The players made that extremely clear, but now 1146 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 2: he's got to prove it on the field because even 1147 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,760 Speaker 2: if the players got your back, if you're not winning 1148 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,399 Speaker 2: in this league, you're not staying long. And then there's 1149 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 2: also the Seahawks. You know at sixteen they have Geno Smith, 1150 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,439 Speaker 2: but again not the future franchise guy, and another new 1151 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 2: coach who wants his guy. 1152 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: So I think it's. 1153 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 2: Big when you have new coach GM come into a 1154 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 2: franchise and organization, you have to realize they're not going 1155 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 2: to fall on the sword for someone they didn't pick. 1156 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 2: They want their own guy that they found, that they developed, 1157 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: that they can get behind. So that's a big thing 1158 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 2: to look for with new coaches. Who would who would 1159 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: be willing to give up a lot to get their guys? 1160 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 4: Mee the Chicago Bears and Wi thing, the don from 1161 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 4: Justin Fields. Ryan Bowles is not going to be accountable 1162 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 4: for another person's decision. The other thing you have to 1163 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 4: take into account though, too, is it really does depend 1164 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 4: on what Washington did because of the fact it doesn't 1165 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 4: work at least most of the time. And I've really 1166 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 4: never heard of it working this way where teams are like, oh, 1167 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,760 Speaker 4: all right, so that's the best quarterback on the board. 1168 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 4: I guess we'll just take him. These guys either fall 1169 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 4: in love with you or they don't want you. They 1170 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 4: have their own boards. So it's like, all right, we 1171 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 4: like this guy, we love this guy. But then outside 1172 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 4: of that, all right, so if if you love Drake 1173 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 4: May and no one else and Washington gets Drake May 1174 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 4: at too, what do you do. You're not just gonna 1175 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 4: take Jane Daniels because he's the best quarterback on the 1176 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 4: board if you're in England, uh uh? Or like this 1177 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 4: is all we need to get out of this mindset 1178 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 4: of like the fan draft mindset of like looking at 1179 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 4: these big board mindsets. Everybody's board at every NFL facility 1180 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 4: is different. It has people ranked by position, by need, 1181 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 4: by everything, and they try to marry those two together. 1182 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,359 Speaker 4: Best player are available usually happens that later in the round. 1183 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 4: But you have your guys, and that does not line 1184 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 4: up with other people's and it certainly doesn't line up 1185 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 4: with like what we think because we're on the outside 1186 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 4: of all of this. It happens all the time where 1187 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 4: you see picks slide into the first round or even 1188 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 4: the top ten where you're like wait what yeh? I 1189 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 4: mean the there's like Darnell right their right tackle who 1190 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 4: ended up being great in his rookie year, did not 1191 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 4: was not registering on anybody's boards as the first tackle 1192 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 4: or even the second tackle that should be taken, and they. 1193 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 3: Did anyway, because this is our guy. 1194 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to keep. 1195 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 3: That in mind. 1196 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 4: And with that in mind, the I'm just really interested 1197 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 4: to see when we get our first defensive player off 1198 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 4: the board, because anything. 1199 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 1: Who's going to take him? Who's desperate, who's gonna take 1200 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't. 1201 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 3: So that's the thing is like, no one is that desperate. 1202 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 4: So I think Atlanta is a really good candidate to 1203 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 4: take a guy like Dallas Turner. He's the best edge 1204 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 4: in this class. And you kind of have a drop 1205 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 4: off too after Dallas. It's like Dallas Turner and then 1206 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 4: like okay, go down. But yeah, that's not until eight. 1207 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 4: It's gonna depend on what happens with the quarterbacks. It's 1208 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 4: going to depend on what happens with offensive tackles because 1209 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 4: offensive tackles are such a huge commodity that and they're 1210 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 4: also expensive. If you think about the most expensive guy 1211 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,879 Speaker 4: on a roster it's the quarterback, it's the offensive it's 1212 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 4: the left tackle usually. So if you can get a 1213 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 4: tackle on a rookie deal, that can be immediately productive 1214 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 4: for you. 1215 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such and this this class is so who's 1216 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 2: going to take the first tackle? 1217 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's got to be the Titans. 1218 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah at seven, Yeah, yeah, I Jets also need one. 1219 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 3: You can't reprove the Jets from doing it, honestly, you can't. 1220 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 2: Remove Rogers needs some protection. He also needs some weapons. 1221 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 4: He I mean Rogers, they get there. The Jets got 1222 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 4: Tyron Smith, but you know that he is going to 1223 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 4: miss a few games. He just hasn't had a good 1224 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 4: He hasn't played a full season I think since twenty thirteen. 1225 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 1: That's a long time. 1226 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 4: And you have a com back in there, Like it's 1227 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 4: just it's you could maybe make it work, but I 1228 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 4: don't know if you need like that dude, It's it's 1229 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 4: going to be very interesting. 1230 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 3: But like the Titans absolutely, Like yeah, what was Cynthia 1231 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 3: was saying? 1232 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,439 Speaker 4: Joe Alt, who is this massive dude that somehow he's 1233 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 4: like almost too tall. 1234 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 3: I think he's like six eight six '. 1235 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 4: Nine, but he is the pad level that he plays at, yeah, 1236 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 4: is not six eight, six ' nine. 1237 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 3: He gets low, he can get underneath. 1238 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: And he can lift you up. 1239 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, keeping off. 1240 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 4: Like he has, he knows his leverage. He like can 1241 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 4: maintain a center of gravity very well. Yeah for a 1242 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 4: guy that's as tall as him, So he's by far 1243 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 4: and away. 1244 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 3: Plus it's Notre Dame. They're an offensive line factory. 1245 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 5: Yep. 1246 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 4: It's going to be very interesting though, how this all 1247 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 4: then affects when defensive players are taken. When this isn't 1248 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 4: seen as a hugely defensive at least top heavy wise, Like, 1249 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 4: isn't he seen as a huge defensive draft? This is 1250 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 4: all about offense, and it's not even about the offensive positions. 1251 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 3: Do you think it is? 1252 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1253 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 4: I mean it's quarterbacks, it's receivers, but it's yeh offensive 1254 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 4: tackles and guards, Yeah, and guards. And we're seeing a 1255 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 4: guard renaissance too, which warms my little defense or warms 1256 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 4: my little trench love and heart. 1257 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it needs to happen. 1258 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 2: Okay, before we go real quick, how many quarterbacks do 1259 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 2: you think go in the top ten? 1260 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,439 Speaker 3: I agree with soon. I think it's four. 1261 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: I had four to five. I just I don't see. 1262 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,919 Speaker 4: I do not see Michael Pennix Junior or bon Nick 1263 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 4: sneaking into the top ten. 1264 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: I just I like, we always what do you think 1265 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: the Giants are going to do? 1266 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 3: They mean they could still ride it out with with Daniel. 1267 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: Jones because they could get a quarterback. 1268 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 4: They could, but like they can't get out of Daniel 1269 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 4: Jones's contract until next year. 1270 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 2: No, so Cardinals could trade. We will trade and those 1271 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 2: people like people could trade up to try to get 1272 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 2: a quarterback. 1273 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 4: That's we also over about like as much as quarterbacks 1274 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,919 Speaker 4: rise in the draft, we completely overvalue this. We're like, oh, 1275 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 4: well they're gonna you know, move ahead of this and 1276 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 4: this and that. And I do think that there are 1277 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 4: going to be four quarterbacks taken in the top ten. 1278 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: Which is a lot. Yeah, definitely four. But I just 1279 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: possibly find. 1280 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 4: There's just enough of a difference between even J. J. 1281 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 4: McCarthy and Michael Pennock Junior and Bonix that I just 1282 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 4: think that you can get those guys the back back 1283 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 4: half of the first round, if not into the early 1284 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 4: second round. That's these grade, the grades that these guys 1285 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 4: have on them. 1286 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 2: Twelve more days, you guys, all right, We're gonna take 1287 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 2: quick break peer. But when we come back, the Clayton 1288 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 2: the Caitlin Clark effect is taken over. We'll explain more next. 1289 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back to 1290 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitale. 1291 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from a tarik dot com studios 1292 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon 1293 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 2: with krme and me. 1294 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and shortly after the show, yes, because of our 1295 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 4: great producers, our podcast is going to be going up immediately, 1296 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 4: So if you missed any of it, be sure to 1297 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 4: check out the podcast. You just search Fox Sports Radio 1298 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 4: wherever you get them, and be sure to follow rate review, 1299 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 4: do all those wonderful things five stars please. We will 1300 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 4: also absolutely post it on our own social. 1301 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 2: Media Alex underscore, Curry and car meb Yeah. Anyways, check 1302 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 2: it out, check it out, coming out, I mean, thank 1303 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 2: you for hanging out with us. 1304 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 3: We out right now and then check us out later. 1305 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 2: This is going to be a little shout out segment 1306 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 2: right here, because what a week for women's sports, you guys. 1307 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 2: For the first time ever, the NCAA Women's Basketball Championship 1308 01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 2: had more viewers than the men She had eighteen point 1309 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 2: nine million viewers. The men's had fourteen point eight million viewers. 1310 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 4: It was ESPN's it was the most watched college basketball 1311 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 4: game on ESPN in history, men's or women's. 1312 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 2: It's incredible, and there's no denying that majority of that 1313 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 2: was because of Caitlyn Clark. Caitlyn Clark has changed the 1314 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 2: landscape for women's sports. Even after the game after South 1315 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 2: Carolina one, Don Staley gave Caitlin. 1316 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Her flowers, and we have. 1317 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 5: She was. 1318 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 2: She was spending a good chunk of her time thanking 1319 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 2: her team, this young team that she just put together, 1320 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,919 Speaker 2: but then also spent her time shining a light on 1321 01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:01,919 Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark, her competitor, which is absolutely incredible and as 1322 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 2: she should. 1323 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: For Don, let's give her a moment for a second. 1324 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 4: Her third national championship just completed an undefeated season. 1325 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 2: First black head coach, male or female to win three 1326 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 2: NCAA national championship. She is that woman and you can 1327 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 2: see why she gets the absolute best out of any 1328 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 2: single player. 1329 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: And here she is talking about Kaitlyn. 1330 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 10: And I want to personally thank Kaylyn Clark for lifting 1331 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 10: up our sport. 1332 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: She carried a heavy. 1333 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 10: Low for our sport, and it just is not gonna 1334 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 10: stop here on a collegiate tour. But when she is 1335 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 10: the number one pick in a WNBA draft, she's gonna 1336 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 10: lift that league up as well. So so Kaylyn Clark, 1337 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 10: if you're out there, you are one of the gulks 1338 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 10: of our games. 1339 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. How do you not love this woman? 1340 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 2: And we're already seeing the Caitlin Clark effect bleed into 1341 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 2: the wnbacause she's expected to go number one yep to 1342 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 2: Indiana Fever. The WNBA draft is on Monday, and it's 1343 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 2: already been announced that Indiana's games thirty six of the 1344 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 2: forty will be nationally televised, and the tickets Fever pre 1345 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 2: sale prices for home games are up one hundred and 1346 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 2: thirty six percent, and all of the Fever's road games 1347 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 2: have seen a massive spike in prices, ranging from fifty 1348 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 2: to ninety percent increases. This is the kind of shift 1349 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 2: that is typically only seen in the NBA as a 1350 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 2: result of a player like a Lebron James changing teams 1351 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 2: like instead of people, because again we've seen a lot 1352 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 2: of back and forth, but this is a pump up 1353 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 2: moment breaking down the greatest stars, right, everyone wants to 1354 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 2: come in with their judgment and bring them down. Why 1355 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 2: can't we celebrate greatness when it's right in front of 1356 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 2: our face like we And what's crazy. 1357 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 4: To me about Caitlin Clark is she's not the first 1358 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 4: call it, I mean's college basketball player to capture all 1359 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 4: the attition. I mean you think maya more. You think 1360 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 4: about like even Sabrina I and Escu, who is now 1361 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,919 Speaker 4: like one of the stars of. 1362 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Although no one's moved the needle the way she has, She's. 1363 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 4: Taken it to the next level, so you you kind 1364 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 4: of get the interest of the college of it now 1365 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 4: she's it is bleeding into the WNBA, which is anything 1366 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 4: we've seen. You're talking about how even visiting team prices 1367 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 4: have gone there on the road. The two time defending 1368 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 4: league champion Las Vegas Aces have moved their July second 1369 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 4: home game against the Fever from the twelve thousand seat 1370 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 4: michelob Ultra Arena at Mandalay Bay to the twenty thousand 1371 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 4: seat Team Obile Arena, which is where the with the 1372 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 4: where the biggest Golden Knights play. Due to expected demands 1373 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 4: and Aces season tickets are already sold out ye in 1374 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 4: this year, they're like one time ever, there's first time 1375 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 4: for a w NBA team Indiana Fever opening night tickets. Yeah, 1376 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,959 Speaker 4: five hundred dollars on the resale market. Even the upper 1377 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 4: levels are one hundred dollars. So it's bleeding into now 1378 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 4: the WNBA, where she's also taking this product, and she's 1379 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 4: channeling that momentum from NCAA into the WNBA with not 1380 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 4: the thing we've seen. 1381 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 2: We've never seen it, which they need. So instead of 1382 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 2: critiquing it and criticizing it, appreciate the greatness. Stop comparing 1383 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 2: her to people before her. No one has done or 1384 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 2: it's been as captivating to a global audience as Caitlin Clark. Now, 1385 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 2: let's check in with Nick Cope to see what's trending. 1386 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 7: All Right, we got a crowded leaderboard at the Masters. 1387 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 7: Now as I've got a lot of shuffling here, Colin Morikawa, 1388 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 7: Max Holman, and the gentleman from Sweden, Ludwig Oberg. They 1389 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 7: are all in a three way tie it top the 1390 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 7: leaderboard at minus six. As you got Nikolai Hoyguard also 1391 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 7: shot back along with Bryson to Shambo. Scottie Scheffler struggling 1392 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 7: on the back nine. He was your leader at seven 1393 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 7: under not thirty minutes ago, but Scheffler has dropped three shots. 1394 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 7: He's now two shots off the pace at minus four. 1395 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 7: Tiger Woods just finishes round a tough day for him, 1396 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 7: a plus ten eighty two in the clubhouse. He is 1397 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 7: now plus eleven for the tournament. Baseball, the Braves announced 1398 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 7: pitcher Spencer Strider ed surgery to repair the UCL on 1399 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 7: his throwing elbow. He will miss the rest of the season. Finals. 1400 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 7: Today Yankees edge the Guardians three to two. That's game 1401 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 7: one of a double header. Game two coming up at 1402 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 7: six to ten Eastern time. Also had the Royals dispatching 1403 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 7: the Mets eleven to seven, reds blank the White Sox 1404 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 7: five zip twins, and Tigers went to extras in Minnesota 1405 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 7: pulled away eleven to five in twelve innings. 1406 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 1: No games in the NBA today. 1407 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 7: They'll finish the regular season tomorrow, but The Athletic reports 1408 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 7: former Bucks coach Mike Budenholzer is among the finalists to 1409 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 7: be the next head coach of the Brooklyn Nets. And 1410 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 7: in the NHL, lots of reports about the Coyotes packing 1411 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 7: up and leaving it Arizona for Salt Lake. City owner 1412 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 7: Alex Morello just posted a statement that says, in part quote, 1413 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 7: we are focused on a myriad of issues that are unresolved, 1414 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 7: and therefore we are unable to make any official public 1415 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 7: comments at this time. However, you have my commitment that 1416 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 7: I am going to speak on all of these issues 1417 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 7: and publicly address all of your concerns as promptly as possible. 1418 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 7: End quote, Alex Carmen back to you. 1419 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nick. 1420 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. Alex Curry here with 1421 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 2: Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from a tyrock dot 1422 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 2: Com studios in Los Angeles. 1423 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: We are just waiting. 1424 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 2: We're hopefully going to get a guest coming on here soon, 1425 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 2: but until we get there, we were kind of talking 1426 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 2: about thanks to watch out for in the drafts right leading. 1427 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,920 Speaker 2: We're twelve days away the big one, which we're hoping 1428 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 2: to get some insider information with our next guest here. 1429 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 2: But the one that we haven't talked about was the 1430 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. 1431 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the big. 1432 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 4: That's a bit like there's so much that can happen 1433 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 4: depending on who they're actually in love with. Yeah, like, 1434 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 4: is it Drake May, who we all think is like 1435 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 4: the second quarterback? 1436 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1437 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 4: Or are they going to kind of throw a curveball 1438 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 4: and go to Jayden Daniels. That also then influences what 1439 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 4: Minnesota is going to do, because for all for everything, 1440 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 4: we're hearing Minnesota and Kevin O'Connell really like Drake May. Well, now, 1441 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 4: if you Drake May is already off board, yeah, are 1442 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 4: you going to trade up into the top three, top 1443 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 4: four to get your second choice and make JJ McCarthy 1444 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,679 Speaker 4: a top four pick, top five pick. 1445 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So with that, it's time to bring in our 1446 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 2: next guest. He's our Fox Sports NFC East reporter ral Fakiana. 1447 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining the. 1448 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,200 Speaker 5: Show, no problem, thanks for having me on course. 1449 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,799 Speaker 2: Now we are officially twelve days away from the draft 1450 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,639 Speaker 2: and the Commanders are in a great spot to get 1451 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 2: their franchise quarterback with the second overall pick. 1452 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: Which top quarterback are they target targeting? 1453 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 5: That's a good question that depends on who you ask. 1454 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 5: I guess you know, for the longest time I heard 1455 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 5: that it was Drake May, that that was their guy, 1456 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 5: and then it changed to Jade and Daniels, and then 1457 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,799 Speaker 5: I saw a report that said JJ McCarthy had popped 1458 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 5: up on their list. They were really eyeing him. You know, 1459 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 5: the the commanders have kept it pretty tight among their 1460 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 5: their new circle in their front office and coaching ranks, 1461 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,799 Speaker 5: and I think people are just really kind of wildly guessing. 1462 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 5: I think you can probably narrow it down to Jaden 1463 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,839 Speaker 5: Daniels or Drake May. I don't think that JJ McCarthy 1464 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 5: is a factor for the number two overall pick, and 1465 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 5: probably right now lean towards Jaden Daniels. But really, if 1466 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 5: you get me a couple of days, I might change 1467 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 5: my mind on that too. So you know, they're they're 1468 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 5: really I think they've got a lot of people guessing 1469 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 5: right now, which is probably exactly what they want. 1470 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm curious if you've kind of looked into 1471 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 4: because now obviously Cliff Kingsbury is there his offense, it 1472 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 4: does kind of lend itself, I think, to a Jade 1473 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 4: and Daniels skill set. But Drake May, I also think 1474 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 4: has the highest floor of this top or the high yeah, 1475 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 4: the highest floor of this top kind of echelon of quarterbacks. 1476 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 4: So who do you think fits in better with Cliff Kingsbury? 1477 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 4: And is is it a factor that I mean, he's 1478 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 4: coming kind of out of college and that's that's his 1479 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,200 Speaker 4: most recent experience, uh, in his coaching career. 1480 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 5: You know, I think it's a little bit of a 1481 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 5: factor and that he'll probably want the guy that fits 1482 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 5: in the most. And you know what everybody tells me 1483 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 5: is Jayden Daniels is much more of his type of quarterback. 1484 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 5: I've also heard that, you know, dan Quintin prefers a 1485 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:50,719 Speaker 5: guy more like Drake May. 1486 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 3: And get it right. 1487 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, so there could be you know, so 1488 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,640 Speaker 5: there's going to be a lot of discussion about that. 1489 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 5: But one thing I do know, especially with offensive coordinator, 1490 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 5: you're crazy if you draft a quarterback to fit a 1491 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 5: system by an offensive coordinator, because the transition there is insane. 1492 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 5: If it works out really well, he's going to be 1493 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 5: gone in two years and then you can have to 1494 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,639 Speaker 5: find a coordinator that hits your quarterback. So if that's 1495 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 5: the selling point for Jaden Daniels, that's not it's not 1496 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 5: what's going to get him drafted. You know, they're going 1497 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 5: to find other reasons to do it. And obviously there's 1498 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 5: a million other reasons. He's just a terrific quarterback. He 1499 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,679 Speaker 5: might be the second best prospect among quarterbacks in the draft, 1500 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 5: but you know the fact that he fits into the 1501 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,640 Speaker 5: Cliff Kingsbury system or is the kind of guy that 1502 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 5: Kingsbury likes, that's really just a bonus that puts him 1503 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 5: over the top, but isn't the reason he's on the top. 1504 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Now. 1505 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,759 Speaker 2: The Giants have a lot of needs in the draft 1506 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,639 Speaker 2: this year, but have also been rumored to be looking 1507 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 2: at a quarterback despite having Daniel Jones under contract. 1508 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 1: So what do you think New York's going to do? 1509 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 2: Are they going to admit they made the mistake signing 1510 01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,440 Speaker 2: Jones and select a new quarterback? 1511 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 1: What he thing's going to happen with that number six pack? 1512 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know they might. If there's a quarterback within reach, 1513 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 5: they might admit the mistake on Daniel Jones. They'll never 1514 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 5: call it a mistake on Daniel Jones, you know they'll 1515 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 5: I think right now they're big thing with him is 1516 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,800 Speaker 5: at least what they're telling everybody is we believe in him. 1517 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 5: We think he's as good as we thought he was 1518 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 5: a year ago we signed her to that massive contract. 1519 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,639 Speaker 5: But understandably they're afraid of the injuries. You know, two 1520 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 5: neck injuries in three years, a torn ACL You know, 1521 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 5: you can't bank on a quarterback like that who two 1522 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,400 Speaker 5: of the last three years wasn't able to stay on 1523 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 5: the field. So you also have a regime that didn't 1524 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 5: draft them, and everybody wants their own guys. So you know, 1525 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 5: if a Drake may, I guess the Jaden Daniels is 1526 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 5: there within reach for them to possibly trade up or 1527 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 5: sitting there for them at six, I think they'll pull 1528 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 5: the trigger on a quarterback. I don't at the moment 1529 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 5: think that JJ McCarthy would be their guy. It's possible 1530 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 5: they you know, I don't think they dislike him. I 1531 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 5: just don't think he's the kind of prospect that the 1532 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,719 Speaker 5: other three are. I don't think they're going to pay 1533 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,280 Speaker 5: a huge amount to move up, which they'll probably have 1534 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 5: to do to get a quarterback. So you know, my 1535 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 5: guess overall is they'll probably sit at six and you know, 1536 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 5: draft the best available receiver, but they'll be watching it. 1537 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 5: They'll they'll they're thinking about that quarterback for sure. 1538 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1539 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,720 Speaker 4: I mean the injury thing is very interesting with Daniel Jones, 1540 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 4: but not only in the fact that he has an 1541 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 4: injury history, but then he does correct me if I'm wrong, 1542 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 4: have an injury guarantee or his guarantees are guaranteed against injury. 1543 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,519 Speaker 4: So if he gets injured, then the Giants then have 1544 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,679 Speaker 4: to pay him regardless, and you don't want to risk 1545 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 4: that necessarily. So is there going to be maybe a 1546 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 4: little bit of a if they do end up with 1547 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 4: the quarterback? I mean, you got you could see a 1548 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 4: guy kind of have to come in there pretty as 1549 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 4: soon because you don't want to necessarily risk Daniel Jones 1550 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,719 Speaker 4: getting hurt. Like is this It's such an interesting situation 1551 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 4: in New York And I don't really know if do 1552 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 4: you trust this regime who did pay Daniel Jones even 1553 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 4: if they didn't draft him, to make this decision going 1554 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 4: forward and handle the Daniel Jones contract. 1555 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, because regimes don't usually get to make two decisions 1556 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,280 Speaker 5: like this quarterback. You make one and that's it does 1557 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 5: work out, You're done. Do I trust them? You know? 1558 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, Joe Shane and Brian Gable 1559 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 5: were part of the Buffalo regime that drafted Josh Allen, 1560 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 5: so I could you know. I think their judgment is 1561 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 5: probably sound. I could see where they looked at Daniel 1562 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,840 Speaker 5: Jones and thought, what are our current options? And they 1563 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,479 Speaker 5: were up against the wall a little bit. It was, 1564 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,200 Speaker 5: you know, they didn't like the class last year in quarterbacks. 1565 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 5: They weren't in position to grab one, and Daniel Jones 1566 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 5: was a free agent, so they didn't have a ton 1567 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 5: of options. And even that contract they paid him as 1568 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,600 Speaker 5: crazy as it was, it's now makes them like the 1569 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 5: ten or eleventh highest paid quarterback in football, so they 1570 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 5: you know, they got ahead of the explosion of salaries 1571 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 5: a little bit. So I think it's I think it's 1572 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 5: the most fascinating thing in the draft to me what 1573 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,559 Speaker 5: they do, especially if they do draft a quarterback, because 1574 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 5: not only do they for all the reasons germane because 1575 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 5: of the contract and everything else, do they probably have 1576 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 5: to play the rookie early there might be an opening 1577 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 5: day job available anyway, because there's no guarantee that Daniel 1578 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 5: Jones will be ready, ready to go and then it'll 1579 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 5: be right. Do they go through Locke? Do they let 1580 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 5: the rookie play? What if the rookie plays. 1581 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:21,240 Speaker 6: Well, do they I would love to stage your luck. 1582 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 3: I got a little. 1583 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 5: Career renaissance exactly. The whole thing is would be such 1584 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 5: a big mess and right in New York with all 1585 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 5: the tabloids and love a quarterback controversy, it's uh, you know, 1586 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 5: it wouldn't be the clean break that they certainly would 1587 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 5: be hoping for. 1588 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 2: Ralph, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate 1589 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 2: all of this inside today. 1590 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 4: And we didn't we talk about the Cowboy I know, 1591 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 4: I know, I talk about the Cowboys. 1592 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,559 Speaker 5: I appreciate the break from that. Thank you. 1593 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 3: You're welcome to make you out. 1594 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take one more break here. 1595 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 2: But when we come back, are we going to see 1596 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 2: Tom Brady back on the football field next season? 1597 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,759 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 1598 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,920 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday and Alex Curry here 1599 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally. 1600 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 1: We're bringing sexy back. Is that what this is? I 1601 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 1: adore to love it. 1602 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from the Tier dot Com studios in 1603 01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. 1604 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are you. 1605 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 2: Guys, Holy guacamole, Like we saved this little like tease? 1606 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,680 Speaker 1: Is it in bombshell? Was it clickbait? 1607 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 2: But like, is the goat gonna make another comeback from retirement. 1608 01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 2: During an interview this week, Tom Brady mentioned that if 1609 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 2: someone called he wouldn't rule out coming back, Tom. 1610 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 1: That I have thoughts, all right. 1611 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 2: Obviously, it would have to be the perfect situation in 1612 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 2: a team that is like, has a clear path opportunity 1613 01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 2: to have a shot at a super Bowl to get 1614 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 2: this man back. 1615 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 1: He's currently forty six years old. 1616 01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,639 Speaker 2: He would be forty seven years old once the season 1617 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,320 Speaker 2: started positive for us, everyone's going to tune in, right, 1618 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:07,640 Speaker 2: But this would be so risky. He has nothing to 1619 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 2: prove anymore. He's already done the comeback from retirement. He's 1620 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 2: the goat. How does this help you? It would only 1621 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 2: hurt your legacy if it went bad. I don't want 1622 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,760 Speaker 2: to see him get hurt. Also, he's trying to be 1623 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:25,240 Speaker 2: part owner of the Raiders. You can't play and do that. 1624 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 2: Even though I think he was rejected at the owners meeting. 1625 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 2: Basically that whole situation. He's also supposed to be slated 1626 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 2: in our NFL on Fox booth next season. 1627 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 1: I know, Tom, don't. Yeah? 1628 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 2: Okay, So you were with him in Tampa when he 1629 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,639 Speaker 2: won his h his last super Bowl, and again everyone 1630 01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:51,679 Speaker 2: thought end of his career. 1631 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 1: Can he do this new team after spending money his 1632 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,520 Speaker 1: career with the Patriots. 1633 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 2: Take us into what Tom Brady is like when he 1634 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 2: gets something like set in his body. 1635 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 4: No, when I say sick, oh, I just mean I 1636 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:04,480 Speaker 4: mean it in the best way. 1637 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 1: Tom is absolutely one one. 1638 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 3: He is one of one. 1639 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,759 Speaker 4: He has he is wired just completely differently. I watched 1640 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 4: him will this team back from I mean they were 1641 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 4: seven and five at the bye and then ran the 1642 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 4: table after that all the way to the super Bowl. 1643 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:19,240 Speaker 7: It was. 1644 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:20,680 Speaker 5: It was. 1645 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 3: It was Tom's first time in the playoffs as a 1646 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:23,559 Speaker 3: wild card. It was. 1647 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it was the way that he just changed 1648 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:31,599 Speaker 4: the entire like body chemistry of the Bucks organization when 1649 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:36,160 Speaker 4: he was there wild and everybody was better for it. 1650 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 4: And I know that he like The thing that Tom 1651 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,640 Speaker 4: loves the most, Yeah, is that feeling of camaraderie, that 1652 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,439 Speaker 4: feeling of being in a locker room. He connected with 1653 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 4: absolutely everyone. Like we talked about how Russell Wilson it 1654 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 4: wasn't ever accessible. Tom was the definition of accessible for everybody, 1655 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 4: including the rookies. Like people had his number, they could 1656 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 4: just text it whatever it was. And he he was 1657 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,280 Speaker 4: always I mean, his guy Alex Guerrero brought him into 1658 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 4: the fold, into the building. Ag is an absolutely wonderful human. 1659 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,679 Speaker 4: Was helping out. So many of the guys. Tom's supplements 1660 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 4: are in the building. This is just like a head 1661 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,800 Speaker 4: to toe. He loves that sense of belonging and being 1662 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,479 Speaker 4: on a team, and that's that's what so many athletes love, 1663 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 4: and he loves like competing. 1664 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 3: At that level. I get him not wanting to say whatever. 1665 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 4: I think a lot of this was just I mean, 1666 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 4: he was getting his haircut as this was happening. 1667 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 3: It was like a barbershop show show and. 1668 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 4: Like he was and I just think it was more 1669 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 4: along the lines of Tom just being like well, never 1670 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,559 Speaker 4: saying ever. But if I know anything about him too 1671 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,160 Speaker 4: this gig in the booth, he's training just as hard. 1672 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 4: He's you know, figuring out how to train him get better. 1673 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he took a year off. 1674 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,679 Speaker 2: He didn't go right into the booth because he wanted 1675 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 2: to be the best version of a broadcaster that he could. 1676 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to imagine that was Yes, that was 1677 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 4: by design because he didn't feel like he had given 1678 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,679 Speaker 4: it enough time and preparation. This is the most prepared 1679 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 4: man I've ever seen. 1680 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,879 Speaker 1: Also, someone who's obsessed with watching tape. 1681 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 2: So if you're going to do that while you play, 1682 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 2: you're going to do the same thing for whatever part 1683 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 2: of your career you're going into next. And he's still 1684 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 2: very much a part of the game. He's trying to 1685 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,599 Speaker 2: be a part owner in one of the teams. Now 1686 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,679 Speaker 2: he's going to be the face of a network talking 1687 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:15,879 Speaker 2: about Yeah, he gets. 1688 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 4: The national following the world without having to put his 1689 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 4: body on the line. And as well as Tom has 1690 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 4: taken care of his body. 1691 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 2: Forty seven, he I just I twenty seven offensive line. 1692 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 4: As much as I love offensive lines in this league, 1693 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,200 Speaker 4: and there are some real, real damn good ones, I 1694 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,600 Speaker 4: don't think I trust any a single offensive line to 1695 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 4: have a forty seve year old quarterback. And I think 1696 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 4: that would make those guys freak out too. Could you 1697 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,000 Speaker 4: imagine if you were responsible for a forty three year. 1698 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,160 Speaker 2: Old quarterback and Tom Brady like on top of everything, 1699 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 2: like just like. 1700 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 4: Don't pull the don't pull the MJ Wizards thing. I 1701 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 4: don't want to see it. 1702 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:48,840 Speaker 3: Listen. I came from. 1703 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,800 Speaker 4: Chicago and he's just a bowl I don't I don't 1704 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,080 Speaker 4: acknowledge the Wizards years. 1705 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 3: Don't do something like that like he already did it with. 1706 01:20:55,400 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 2: You don't need to did great like your last You're 1707 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,880 Speaker 2: like you retired, you came out of retirement. We already 1708 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,360 Speaker 2: got that once. Yeah, we don't need to do it again. Tom, 1709 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 2: We love you, but like, please, no, please say that what. 1710 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 3: You can't wait to hear. 1711 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,639 Speaker 1: Keep the jersey framed on the wall. 1712 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 2: It's time to move on to that next phase of 1713 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 2: your life in football, all right, And on the goat note. 1714 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 1: That does it. 1715 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 2: Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon and that's enjoy 1716 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 2: master weekday.