WEBVTT - Episode 2 - The Three Bs 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.480 There was no book on how to escape with crits alive. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.760 You know, there's no book. You know when it comes 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:11.840 to even like when they say, why do you even 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.800 stay in there? Because we don't know no other way 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.240 like leaving it and feels like you're dying, they seemed 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.880 to keep themselves alive, you know, especially the chapel mind. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:23.680 They make out really so many enemies. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.920 And status and but you know, I wish I had 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.840 like surrounded by friends that weren't drug dealers and weren't 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.280 on the street, and that they were all like stockbrokers 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.560 and were estay investors. I just wish my dad was 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.080 just worked at a factor. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.640 I didn't think that we were organized escape like out 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.519 of this kind of unharmed. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:54.480 But trying to imagine myself like, you know, spending the 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:59.440 rest of my life in prison, I felt like I 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.720 couldn't like bring I could. I was so fucked like 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.680 so like I can't say it's secured. It was just 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:10.000 like this ugly overwhelming family of touching the walls like 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:11.320 and holding. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.640 On till iget, Like what what did I do? Like 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.240 what did I just do to myself? 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:27.720 Hey, it's fifty. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.040 Cents and I'm Charlie Webster. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.319 This is surviv and Ol Chapeau, the twins who brought 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:37.559 down a drug Ward Season two. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.040 When you've been raised in a life like this, prison 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.400 vibes are something you know well. The twins father was 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.920 in there when they were born and stayed there for 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.120 the first seven years of their lives. Their drug career 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.720 only started because their older brother of my and was 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.120 sent to prison when Jay and Pep was seventeen. They 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.120 did anything to avoid prison life. Only a year before 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.600 turning themselves in, he said he'd rather die than end 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:11.400 up locked. 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.240 Up a real riskt bullying in my head. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:17.640 Than to go to prison. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.600 Breaking the cycle and giving their own kids a choice 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.440 that they never had a chance at a normal life 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.840 meant choosing to go to prison, the one place they 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.440 spent their lives running from, and came at the cost 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.760 of their own father's life, who was murdered by the 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:40.240 cartel because of what they did. The consequences of their 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:45.600 decision were slowly starting to sink in huddled together in 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.360 a tiny cell in the special housing unit the shoe 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:54.120 of mcc Chicago, with no idea when or if they 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.079 would be free again. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.239 I haven't made been so called that the war would 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:06.000 literally have ice on them. And I remember my brother 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.000 and I were so cold that we slept on the 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.600 same bed next to each other to keep each other 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.040 one And I remember the card saying, hey, you guys 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.200 can't do that, and I was like, he's my brother, 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:17.240 you know. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.440 Now one of you guys that get up on another bed, 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.679 I'm gonna give you gets a shot. And I got 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:23.120 right up. 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:28.240 A shot is prison slang for a disciplinary infraction, also 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.320 known as a ticket. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.200 And I was like, they're gonna gets a right up. Like, 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.960 what's the worst thing? I haven't wearing the shoe. You know, 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.200 it's already hard to be living in this in the 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:42.840 shoe in the hole. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:44.480 Now we gotta deal with the cold. 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.440 And I'm thinking, damn, imagine dealing with the hot, like 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.600 you're just never gonna be you know, it's not made 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:55.000 to be comfortable, or like the lights are on all night. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.320 You know, you gotta make yourself an eye cover and 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:03.440 it's just weird thing. I don't understand how that helps. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.800 Because of what they were doing and the reach of 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:13.040 the cartel, Pete and j were huge targets. They were 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:17.160 put in the WHITSEC program witness protection inside prison. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.760 Sometime we call it phase one, phase two or like, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:24.560 but it's not that. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:26.440 It's just like witness. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:30.039 Protection where you're incurcerated while you're in prison, and there's 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.320 witness protection for you know, when you're free. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.680 So what's witness protection mean in prison? 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:41.320 It means that it's just it means that you're gonna 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.720 be safe, but they're gonna add a series of rules 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.000 and you don't get all the privileges that normally like 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:56.560 normal prisoners get. It's the cost of like being safe. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.919 They have rules that could be like punishing with like 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:05.159 disciplinary action, so you c you can't use your name, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:11.480 and you can't say certain things. Just you don't get emails, 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.600 you don't get like certain things that could come back 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.880 and people could kind of get a hold of me 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.560 they kind of mind it. Or who you would talk 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:19.400 to or who you can't. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.839 Did you feel like you needed witness protection in prison? 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.280 Did you feel like there would have been you know, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:26.719 like hits on you in prison? 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:27.640 I need, oh for sure. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.840 And one thing like it doesn't matter who you're telling 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.640 if you're a snitch, which is kind of like gronded 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.880 because there's the majority of those people in some way 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:46.560 somehow cooperating, so I remember it. I would be bored 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:51.479 sometimes and they'll be like, all you snitches, all you 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:56.400 wanna die? And I would just sometime I'll argue with them, 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.480 be like, why are you mad? 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.760 Mind your business? I'm I'll be like, why are you here? 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:03.520 You know? 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.240 Eventually I won the whole shoe over. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:07.880 They got tired of what could they do? It's just 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.360 us arguing back and forth, and I just me and 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.320 my brother would make everyone laugh and like if we 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.039 had to do something with our time, like just cause 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:21.159 you're stuck there sitting there. And then what happened was 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.239 that next you know, some people, some associations start coming 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.440 up to the show, and now they know. 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:33.160 That we're there, Associates that you'd again like in corporated 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.359 on ended up getting put. 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.159 In this show with you under showing. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.800 People started kind of finding out like who we were. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.880 They'll be like, yo, I it is the Twins here, 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.159 Like here's the Twins. I know that I wouldn't have 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.440 survived if I didn't have wines protection. 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.600 With the Twins on the inside setting up their customers 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.599 was going to get suspicious. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.440 If they weren't there in person. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.919 Someone needed to do the dirty work on the outside, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.920 and it couldn't be just anyone, It had to be 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:09.880 another floorers. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.200 The FEDS pulled in Jay's wife, Val. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:18.600 They asked for my help, and because Jay and Peter 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:24.160 were no longer on the streets anymore, I assisted them. 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.640 There were certain missing pieces that they needed. They needed 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.520 me to turn in the ledgers. I went to the 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.200 US Attorney's office and took two computer towers full of 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.840 Jay and peters. You know they're drug ledgers. 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.640 VAL's job wasn't just a turn in ledgers and find 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.480 missing pieces. She also had to essentially go under cover 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.960 for the FEDS at the direction of the lead prosecutor, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.720 Thomas Shakeshaft, even going as far as wearing a wire 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:54.480 to help convict the twins. 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.720 Customers the customer friend of mine. His name was Kylie Murray. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.920 He went by the nickname like c Ali. He was 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.960 one of my closest customers we had. He was one 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:10.520 of my first customers. Kylie was like a big target 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:14.280 for the DA in Chicago prior to me and my 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:19.760 brother training ourselves in and they they insisted they wanted 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:26.440 us to cooperate against them. We had a Lamborghini parked 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.800 in Atlanta, and he went and he stole the Lamborghini, 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.640 even though he owed me like five million dollars. The 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.760 fifth came and asked about the car, and they knew 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.520 he had it because I would see the re surveillance 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:45.679 him and you know, it was our car. And you know, 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.360 once we started talking about that, they you know, they 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.920 wanted us to cooperate against him, and he had owed 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.720 us all this money, and they had asked Val if 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.600 she could reach out to him and give him like 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.839 a face story that my older brother was and continue 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.360 to sell drugs if he would be willing to buy 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:13.120 on purchason. And Val met up with him and he 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.960 gave her two hundred thousand and she gave him the 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:17.439 title for the car. 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:22.080 Kylie Murray, also known as Hollywood, was one of the Twins' 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:26.559 biggest customers because of the cooperation the Flores family were providing. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.480 Kylie Murray was one of the many people arrested in 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:31.400 Kylie's case. 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.160 It was for his part in a cocaine trafficking ring 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.040 worth one point eight billion dollars. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.320 One night, whilst Kylie was out on bail, he was 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.400 walking home and two men pulled up in a white van. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.960 They got out, shot him dead, and then sped off. 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.760 Val kept the two hundred thousand dollars that Kylie Murray 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:55.160 gave her before he was arrested. According to Val, prosecutors 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:56.040 told her she. 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:56.679 Could keep it. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.640 VAL's cooperation with the Feds included a number of sessions 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.880 where she would sit and profit giving the government as 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:06.200 much information as. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.679 They wanted in order to help the brother's case. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.720 I had to sit down with the government, and there 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:19.360 was different prosecutors there. There were supervisors there, there was 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.760 agents there, and so you have all these different departments 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.160 that are sitting in one room, and everybody is asking 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:32.719 me questions. And I noticed that when I would bring 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.480 up certain things, it's like they would hush me because 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:41.200 they only wanted to speak about certain subjects. They didn't 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.079 want me to get into properties that we owned in Mexico. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.520 They didn't want to know any of that. They basically 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.480 said that they had no jurisdiction over that. And I 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.880 did disclose to them though that you know, I had 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.120 my house in Plainfield. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.920 Plainfield is a small wealthy town about an hour west 0:10:58.920 --> 0:10:59.560 of Chicago. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.680 I paid for it with drug proceeds we you know, 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:08.160 our husband's bought us several high end luxury vehicles that 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:13.240 we brought over from Mexico, several of them, and I 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.559 disclosed that, you know, we had purchase houses. I disclosed 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.240 everything to them. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.680 The two hundred thousand wasn't the only money that Vile 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.400 collected from the brother's drip debts. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:26.080 There was plenty more. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.800 There was some money that was collected and we put 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.640 the money away in the house in Plainfield. We didn't 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.040 know where to put it, so we put it in 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.679 the theater room where we had this like built up floor, 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.000 and we kind of just removed the face of the 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.840 facial boards of the floor and we put the money 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:51.200 in there. Jay's attorney wanted to see me in person. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.920 He told me that the government wanted some money that 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:00.560 was picked up in DC and that it was in 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.640 j and Peter's best interest to turn in that money 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:11.640 because they wanted it and they wanted handed over and 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.120 that that person whoever it was that turned in the 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:21.120 money would be given immunity. Me and went back to 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:25.079 the house in Plainfield and we bought these big tupware 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.800 like bins that you would kind of keep in your 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.480 garage if you were keeping like sporting goods or things 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:32.320 like that that you want. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:32.800 To store away. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:38.200 So we put all the bulk currency inside those bins, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.000 which was about I don't know, maybe eight to ten bins, 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.560 and we put those in the suv. And when we 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.599 loaded them in the suv, like the truck was completely 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.880 fool I couldn't even see out of the rear view mirror, 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.560 the side mirrorge just because we had all the seats down. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.880 And I drove it to the attorney's office, which was 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.000 on the north side of Chicago. When we got there, 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:09.960 the attorney was in complete like shock, like he didn't 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.720 know what to do. He had no idea that what 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.080 he was supposed to do with all this bulk cash, 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:16.920 Like he didn't want to be responsible for it because 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.480 it was the middle of the night. So he then 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.280 called the government and let them know that he had 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:29.800 the money in his possession. At that point, he was 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.280 just saying that they did not want to come pick 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.960 up the money. They didn't want to seize the money. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.560 So the next day we went to the bank and 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.560 we actually deposited that money at the bank. So it 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.679 kind of looked like a scene from like Scarface, where 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.839 We're walking in with these bns of money and they're 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.400 just counting and going through the money counters and counting it, 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.920 and it ended up being like the four point something 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:55.800 million dollars. 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.200 The four million dollars was only a portion of the 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.280 full amounts of drug proceeds that was collected by Val 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:03.640 and other family members. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:05.720 Val handed it in. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:10.480 To Jay's attorney with the expectation that she would get immunity. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.320 He let me know that he wasn't going to disclose 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.679 to the government who actually turned in the money until 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.920 he got the immunity in writing, because that they were 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:25.560 playing games. So at that point I know that he 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.160 was trying to protect me and he thought he was 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.760 doing the right thing by having me turned in that money, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.200 because that's exactly what they wanted. 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.760 Remember, Val didn't have any protection. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.880 She was not a part of the witness protection program 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:59.360 like the twins were. The government made a lot of 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.560 special commodations for Jay and Pete. Not only were they 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.320 allowed to be together in the shoe, they eventually got 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.320 to see their families, something that's highly unusual in WHITSEC. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.160 So they kind of agreed to allow us to see 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:18.880 our family and on Fridays for a little while at 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:23.080 the same place where they're briefing it their headquarters or whatever. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:27.080 In the DA office, they had like a. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.720 Room where they process you know, inmates or or you know, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:35.960 people they arrested, and it's like a pretty simple room. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.920 They probably just take your pictures and fingerprints you in. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.600 They have like all these little like holding closets, like 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.040 with a little bench, and the door has a little 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:49.400 people and then they are like in the corner of them, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:54.120 there's two bedrooms right next to each other, you know, 0:15:55.800 --> 0:16:01.640 and there's only one entrance to this room. And my 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.800 wife would come and bring the kids, and my mom 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.680 came and my my older brother and val and Jay 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:13.000 and the boys. And on one of those occasions it 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.320 was around like that Valentine's was like, I'm that during 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.760 the m during that visit somehow like the wake up. Yeah, 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.880 And I remember that because I remember she word like 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:29.320 something red or something and I'm carrying my baby. It 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.520 was kind of crowding out whenever my brother and I 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.360 were out of us cell, Like there was a lot 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:38.880 of agings, you know, so they would like crowded and 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.320 they would like stand by the doorway, you know, and 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.680 I just kind of like they'll be conversaying among themselves, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.200 and there's like cameras up there too, like in that room. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:52.800 So I remember. 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.480 Like she gets up to go make the baby a bottle, 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.800 and the baby like fell asleep in mar on side. 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.800 Put the baby down, so right away she's like making 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.040 the baby the bottle. She's like, we're seeing the bottle 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.639 in the bathroom and I just walked her towards the 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.159 door with it, and I'm watching her like clean the 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:17.280 baby's bottle and there's no one, like I mean, they 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:21.520 can't see me from that when they're distracted by talking 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:27.920 to amongst each other. And I remember just. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:27.920 Just walking into the bathroom. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:32.200 It's embarrassing because there's my mom's there, and. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:39.239 You know, I told Peter, I'm like come in. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.840 Yeah, she was like then I remember just like and then. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:48.200 He had the baby, I have the bottles. 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:49.680 Then just like. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:55.119 Just going into the bathroom and means so nervous. So 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.080 like I was like nervous, but I just missed her 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:03.359 so much. And I remember just like at that point, 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.520 like so what whatever happens happened. And I remember her 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.520 telling me like come on, Pete, like I want to 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.720 have your baby. And I was like, you out your mind. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.200 She's like, yeah, I want to have your baby boy, 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.320 And I don't worry. You know, by the time you're 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.320 coming home, you'll be perfect at that age and you 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.800 could play with them. And I was like, you don't 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:28.399 know what you're asking for. But I was like, okay, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.440 you know, just in the heat. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.080 Of the moment, it was like, yeah, I think at 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.960 that point, we're just conversation. We're just conversating at that 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.280 point right there. But I didn't say play with him. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.480 I said, I'll you know, I'll have another baby, We'll 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.000 have our kids by that time, they'll be grown and 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.639 you know, you'll have you know, a whole weather, you 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:51.960 have a whole family by the time you come home. Yes, 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.560 And but mind you, you know we're still living on 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.440 that Oh you're gonna get only eight years. We're getting 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:08.160 in the best situation where you know, he's the biggest cooperator. 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.760 And see's eight years. I thought, I. 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.800 Mean I thought maybe eight eight years maximum. At that point. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.680 I was like, you'll probably be home in like three, 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.639 four or five years. Like I didn't think it was 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.080 going to even be eight years. 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.760 I mean, you know, we're just I guess we were 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:29.520 hoping for the best. Anyways, that moment just was so 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:33.679 intense and we got away. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:39.200 And I was yeah, and then it was super fertile 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.919 at that time because I just had I just had. 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:48.680 Went for it, so you yeah, so we got. 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:53.520 Busy, yeah, in in the bathroom. 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:59.520 Yeah. I believe we got away twice, so there's like 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:00.240 one more time. 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:05.080 And I just afterwards, I was feeling, like, what the wages. 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.879 I hope she's not pregnant, you know, And then of 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:08.800 course she was pregnant. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:13.520 It was the neircomers in there, the like remember there's 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:14.280 a lot of agents. 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:19.320 It was in like and I remember we didn't talk 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.919 about she was just told me one day, like she 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.000 said something like, are you ready to play with your 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:24.399 I know. 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.080 It was like I was. I was already feeling sick, 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:32.000 and I was like, something's some I'm pregnant. One hundred 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:36.360 percent I'm pregnant. So I took a pregnancy test and 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:41.640 then he called and I'm like, I'm pregnant, and it 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.080 was it was a lot of different feelings. 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:50.880 It was just so like such a shocker, I'm pregnant. 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.119 Yeah, and we were both afraid, like. 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:59.840 Yeah, and I remember just like thinking, Oh, what are 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:00.800 the that's gonna say? 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:03.119 Were you allowed to have sex? 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:09.480 And of course now it became such a big issue. 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:14.320 I just didn't see I was jeopardizing like so much. 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:16.360 So when did they find out? 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.080 Show the staff at the prison, no, I have a baby, 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.320 like she knows she was pregnant. They see her, but 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:26.919 I guess they assumed, like, wait, how long he's been 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.680 in custody something. But I guess they just figured that's 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.399 the way she came, that's the way they met me. 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:32.600 She's pregnant. 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:42.600 So I have a legal visit about two thousand and ten. 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:47.000 I'm signing some papers and they're doing an interview. 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:53.680 And all right, I see you later. The next morning, 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:54.280 like at. 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.280 Seven in the morning, they come knock on my door 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.159 like you know, PF give up legal visit. I'm like 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:04.320 they what are you talking about? Yeah, get dressed and 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.679 I going to see the agent and the prosecutor in 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:09.160 their same clothes room day before. 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:16.960 I was like, what the hell's going on? And they 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.600 let me have it. I might ask you a question, 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:23.560 don't balk your live with me? You have a something? 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:31.119 I was like, yes, is it yours? I hope so 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:36.879 what the fuck they let me have it? 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:42.400 They were so pissed off, say figured it out? Yeah, 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:44.200 what did they say? 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.360 They made me like be thorough about exactly what happened, 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:52.440 and and they're like, this is gonna be the most 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.560 embarrassing because you fucking deservera in yourself. And I ain't 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.919 look back, and I'm like I understand how that was. 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.760 You know, I can't say I regret it. I have 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.560 my beautiful son. I can't see like probably who wouldn't 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:09.119 take the chance that they had it, you know, but 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.000 they were very pissed off, and it just became a 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:16.320 humongous issue that had people from DC come interview me 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.440 and they're doing a big investigation about it. I like 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.879 to see you I had like somehow bribe someone or 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:26.399 were they letting me as as a benefit, And you know, 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.879 it was like a big issue, you know, because it 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.199 was against like I broke the rules and stuff and 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:32.560 all night. 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.680 No I'm like, I'm a man, that's my wife. 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.240 Like, if someone gets the opportunity, I'm sure it's not 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:45.119 the first time it's happened, it won't be alive. I 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.960 had other issues, you know, like they would call it 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:53.280 the three Bees, The Bentley, the Baby, and the Billboards. 0:23:55.920 --> 0:24:00.359 The twins became infamous for the three Bees. The Baby 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.440 was just the start next the Bentley. 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.680 It was a birthday, so I would have the car. 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.760 Buying her a cardact that was like buying her buick 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:15.880