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Speaker 2: They make out really so many enemies.

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Speaker 1: And status and but you know, I wish I had

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Speaker 1: and were estay investors. I just wish my dad was

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that we were organized escape like out

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Speaker 1: But trying to imagine myself like, you know, spending the

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Speaker 2: On till iget, Like what what did I do? Like

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's fifty.

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Speaker 3: Cents and I'm Charlie Webster.

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Speaker 4: This is surviv and Ol Chapeau, the twins who brought

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Speaker 4: down a drug Ward Season two.

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Speaker 5: When you've been raised in a life like this, prison

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Speaker 5: vibes are something you know well. The twins father was

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Speaker 5: the first seven years of their lives. Their drug career

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Speaker 5: only started because their older brother of my and was

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Speaker 5: sent to prison when Jay and Pep was seventeen. They

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Speaker 5: did anything to avoid prison life. Only a year before

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Speaker 5: turning themselves in, he said he'd rather die than end

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Speaker 1: Up a real riskt bullying in my head.

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Speaker 2: Than to go to prison.

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Speaker 4: Breaking the cycle and giving their own kids a choice

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Speaker 4: that they never had a chance at a normal life

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Speaker 4: meant choosing to go to prison, the one place they

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Speaker 4: spent their lives running from, and came at the cost

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Speaker 4: of their own father's life, who was murdered by the

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Speaker 4: cartel because of what they did. The consequences of their

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Speaker 4: decision were slowly starting to sink in huddled together in

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Speaker 1: I haven't made been so called that the war would

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Speaker 2: Now one of you guys that get up on another bed,

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Speaker 4: A shot is prison slang for a disciplinary infraction, also

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Speaker 1: And I was like, they're gonna gets a right up. Like,

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Speaker 4: put in the WHITSEC program witness protection inside prison.

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Speaker 2: It's just like witness.

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Speaker 1: It means that it's just it means that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: And one thing like it doesn't matter who you're telling

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Eventually I won the whole shoe over.

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Speaker 1: They got tired of what could they do? It's just

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Speaker 6: That we're there, Associates that you'd again like in corporated

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Speaker 6: on ended up getting put.

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Speaker 2: In this show with you under showing.

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Speaker 1: People started kind of finding out like who we were.

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Speaker 1: They'll be like, yo, I it is the Twins here,

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Speaker 1: Like here's the Twins. I know that I wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: With the Twins on the inside setting up their customers

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Speaker 3: If they weren't there in person.

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Speaker 4: Someone needed to do the dirty work on the outside,

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Speaker 3: The FEDS pulled in Jay's wife, Val.

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Speaker 7: They asked for my help, and because Jay and Peter

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Speaker 7: were no longer on the streets anymore, I assisted them.

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Speaker 7: There were certain missing pieces that they needed. They needed

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Speaker 7: Jay and peters. You know they're drug ledgers.

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Speaker 4: VAL's job wasn't just a turn in ledgers and find

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Speaker 4: Thomas Shakeshaft, even going as far as wearing a wire

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Speaker 4: to help convict the twins.

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Speaker 1: Customers the customer friend of mine. His name was Kylie Murray.

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Speaker 1: He went by the nickname like c Ali. He was

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Speaker 1: us to cooperate against them. We had a Lamborghini parked

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Speaker 1: even though he owed me like five million dollars. The

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Speaker 1: once we started talking about that, they you know, they

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Speaker 1: gave her two hundred thousand and she gave him the

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Speaker 4: Kylie Murray, also known as Hollywood, was one of the Twins'

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Speaker 4: Kylie Murray was one of the many people arrested in

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Speaker 3: It was for his part in a cocaine trafficking ring

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Speaker 3: worth one point eight billion dollars.

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Speaker 4: One night, whilst Kylie was out on bail, he was

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Speaker 4: They got out, shot him dead, and then sped off.

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Speaker 4: Val kept the two hundred thousand dollars that Kylie Murray

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Speaker 3: Could keep it.

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Speaker 4: VAL's cooperation with the Feds included a number of sessions

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Speaker 3: They wanted in order to help the brother's case.

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Speaker 7: I had to sit down with the government, and there

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Speaker 7: want me to get into properties that we owned in Mexico.

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Speaker 7: They didn't want to know any of that. They basically

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Speaker 4: Plainfield is a small wealthy town about an hour west

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Speaker 7: I paid for it with drug proceeds we you know,

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Speaker 7: our husband's bought us several high end luxury vehicles that

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Speaker 4: The two hundred thousand wasn't the only money that Vile

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Speaker 3: There was plenty more.

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Speaker 7: There was some money that was collected and we put

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Speaker 7: He told me that the government wanted some money that

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Speaker 7: the house in Plainfield and we bought these big tupware

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Speaker 6: To store away.

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Speaker 7: So we put all the bulk currency inside those bins,

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Speaker 8: You know, I told Peter, I'm like come in.

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Speaker 8: Of the moment, it was like, yeah, I think at

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Speaker 8: I said, I'll you know, I'll have another baby, We'll

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Speaker 8: And but mind you, you know we're still living on

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Speaker 8: four or five years. Like I didn't think it was

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're just I guess we were

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Speaker 1: And I just afterwards, I was feeling, like, what the wages.

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Speaker 2: I hope she's not pregnant, you know, And then of

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Speaker 4: It was the neircomers in there, the like remember there's

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Speaker 1: It was in like and I remember we didn't talk

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Speaker 8: It was like I was. I was already feeling sick,

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Speaker 8: then he called and I'm like, I'm pregnant, and it

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Speaker 1: It was just so like such a shocker, I'm pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember just like thinking, Oh, what are

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Speaker 6: Were you allowed to have sex?

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Speaker 1: And of course now it became such a big issue.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't see I was jeopardizing like so much.

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Speaker 6: So when did they find out?

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Speaker 1: Show the staff at the prison, no, I have a baby,

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Speaker 2: She's pregnant.

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Speaker 1: So I have a legal visit about two thousand and ten.

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Speaker 1: I'm signing some papers and they're doing an interview.

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Speaker 2: And all right, I see you later. The next morning,

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Speaker 1: Seven in the morning, they come knock on my door

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Speaker 1: they what are you talking about? Yeah, get dressed and

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Speaker 1: I going to see the agent and the prosecutor in

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Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell's going on? And they

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Speaker 2: let me have it. I might ask you a question,

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Speaker 2: don't balk your live with me? You have a something?

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Speaker 9: I was like, yes, is it yours? I hope so

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Speaker 9: what the fuck they let me have it?

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Speaker 6: They were so pissed off, say figured it out? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They made me like be thorough about exactly what happened,

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Speaker 1: You know, I can't say I regret it. I have

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Speaker 2: No I'm like, I'm a man, that's my wife.

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Speaker 1: Like, if someone gets the opportunity, I'm sure it's not

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Speaker 4: The twins became infamous for the three Bees. The Baby

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Speaker 1: It was a birthday, so I would have the car.

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Speaker 1: Buying her a cardact that was like buying her buick

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Speaker 1: At that time. I had my sister in my battery

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Speaker 1: take care of me, you know. To be honest, it

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Speaker 6: Know, why did you want to buy hervetment?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just thought like what could I get at her birthday?

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Speaker 1: You know it's coming up. I mean we had ten cars.

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Speaker 1: I mean you know we had every car you could

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Speaker 6: You got ten cars at that time.

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Speaker 1: Still, yeah, did the government not take any of them

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Speaker 2: I think no, not yet?

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Speaker 6: So what cause did you have?

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Speaker 1: We had every issue but you could think of We

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Speaker 2: Three at a time.

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Speaker 8: I had a little party for my birthday and then

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Speaker 10: Was like.

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Speaker 8: Shocked and surprised, and and yeah, I was truly missing him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the car didn't make no difference to me, honest,

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Speaker 1: I was just it wasn't like what you think it

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Speaker 2: You know, like we're more in need of each other

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Speaker 1: When the government discovered, like that what we did to

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Speaker 6: All right, So that's why it was a problem.

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Speaker 2: No, that was just part of it.

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Speaker 1: Like we you know, we spent the money on stuff

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Speaker 1: like that, just anything that could hinder you know, you

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's a bad decision.

445
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a bad decision.

446
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 4: The twins were moved from mcc Chicago to a different

447
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 4: prison in order to help protect their identity.

448
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: They often moved prisons.

449
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 4: And we can't always name where they were due to

450
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: witset confidentiality.

451
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: The first two bees had caused a lot of trouble

452
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Speaker 3: for the.

453
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Speaker 4: Twins, but it was the third b the billboards, which

454
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 4: happened after they moved prisons.

455
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Speaker 3: That was the final straw.

456
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 8: One bad decision after another.

457
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Speaker 1: I got the billboards, and the billboards was just a

458
00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: violation of my security at the time, and yeah, they were.

459
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: Not happy about that. We all paid the price for

460
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: that one.

461
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 7: Peter I remember for Valentine's state, he wanted to put

462
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 7: up things to billboards, two huge billboards on the interstate,

463
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 7: like when you.

464
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 6: Roll up to the visit.

465
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: That's so my intention was just a surprise and her

466
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: way home that she sees like a little token of

467
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: my love and appreciation for her.

468
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 8: And it was a It was the next exit where

469
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 8: the prison, where the facility was, so.

470
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Speaker 1: They were not small, I guess they were like like

471
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: they had like three hundred feet across like to me,

472
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: like the huge.

473
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 7: Told them and it said, Philo, marrying you.

474
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: Was the best thing that ever happened.

475
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 11: And it was black.

476
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 8: The sign was black with like big red hearts and

477
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 8: white bright letters, so you kind of it was simple words.

478
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 10: It was like Mary, you was the best I love you. Yeah,

479
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 10: you're grateful I.

480
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: Can't wait to spend for everyone.

481
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 6: With the second one, yeah, it was.

482
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 8: They were absolutely beautiful, Like I couldn't believe. Like I

483
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 8: I parked, I parked on the side of the highway,

484
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 8: and I just like was just staring at them, like

485
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 8: in tears with my baby, and I was just staring

486
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 8: at them. And it was we were alone, it was

487
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 8: we're leaving the visit and we were just there and

488
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 8: I was just like, look back at my babies and

489
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 8: I was just looking at the sign, and you know,

490
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 8: it just.

491
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 6: I couldn't believe it.

492
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 8: Like Peter's always been romantic, but I feel like this

493
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 8: gesture was like just like really over over over at

494
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 8: the top. Oh yeah, I was in tears. And then

495
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 8: I felt like I felt happy and then lonely, and

496
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 8: then I looked at my babies and I just felt

497
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 8: like I wanted him so, I wanted him home so bad,

498
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 8: and it reminded me of what I felt for him

499
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 8: as well. And not only did he show me what

500
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 8: he felt for me, I mean putting these big, two

501
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 8: huge signs on the side of the highway six months

502
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 8: for six months, yes, so, and I looked at them

503
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 8: every time, and I stared at them every time, and

504
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 8: it just it really made my heart.

505
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: And I think that to be able to show her

506
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: like a beware or to do something because not because

507
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: you can't, because you wanted.

508
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 11: To, Like it's you know.

509
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: It was one of those moments that I felt like,

510
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: you want to make her feel how special she was

511
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: to me? Well got me in trouble was that that

512
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: they made a big news.

513
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 10: It was on the news.

514
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: They like a journal I seen them, or they talked

515
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: about them, and they went out to make a story.

516
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: I look what a husband did for his wife.

517
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: Never imagine that the guy with dinner was in prison.

518
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: But later on I knew if the trouble was coming

519
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: when the Seals would come over to our unit and

520
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: be like.

521
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: Who's the guy that put up the billboards?

522
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: Don't forget where they were not they're.

523
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: Not supposed to know you, you know.

524
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: And I didn't put her name out there. I just

525
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: put it, you know. I looked like the man and

526
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there's going to be trouble.

527
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 9: You know.

528
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 10: It was, it was It was just not for Peter.

529
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: I didn't say that what I thought he would have

530
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: said because of the billboards. My best friend, my brother

531
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: who had spent my whole life got transferred.

532
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 10: Wow, that's a little bit bigger.

533
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 11: Huh.

534
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: Pete's very public declaration of love for his wife, Velo

535
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: viv Lopez changed everything. It brought along a fourth b breakup.

536
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: The twins were separated for the first time in their lives, and.

537
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 8: You know, we all suffered the repercussions.

538
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 10: We had the privilege.

539
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: It was a privilege granted to it by a special

540
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 1: privilege because of our cooperation. The department just allowed us

541
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: a lot of identical twins which were now was not

542
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: it was against policy to be together.

543
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: Should we say to give you a special approach? Sure, yeah,

544
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: I guess it was.

545
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 10: We were together.

546
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: They made an exception for us.

547
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 10: They made an expect exception for us and put us together.

548
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 12: We're not supposed to be together, and we're identical twins,

549
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 12: and they basically told us, don't fuck it out. We

550
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 12: were punkies, we were salies in the same job in prison,

551
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 12: and we took it for barn there. But the billboards,

552
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 12: where's the beginning of like something solid they had? I

553
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 12: guess he decaid to the bill words and they found

554
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 12: out and they started investigation. The whole time, they think

555
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 12: that because who Val is and because who I am

556
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 12: person I was, they kind of just said it's Ja

557
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 12: because there was a B on it. And I think

558
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 12: they're thinking be Low, because they're thinking that Jay Low vow.

559
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 12: One day in March of that year, March April, they

560
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 12: come get me to the south four in the morning, okay.

561
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 10: In wash out them out to you and you come

562
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 10: down to r D. And I'm like to put on sweater.

563
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 10: I see that. I look at it.

564
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: When I see that, there's lieutenants.

565
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 10: There's a couple of guards, and I'm like, man, what

566
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 10: could he want? And now with my brother, I don't know.

567
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 10: I'm just like, oh, all right, I go and.

568
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 1: There's doors right, so as soon as I step down

569
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: in the door, they lock it and I go into our.

570
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 4: Indeed, R and D stands for Receiving and discharging. It's

571
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: where prisoners a process and identities checked to make sure

572
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 4: the right person is going to the right place.

573
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: It's the first stop when you arrive and the last

574
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: before you leave.

575
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 10: He's like, he has my back that actually came with,

576
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 10: you know, from Mexico. On the table.

577
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: He said, strip start taking my clothes and you know,

578
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: regular check. But he's like, hold on, I need to

579
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: make sure. Let me see your tattoos. I said, I

580
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: don't have tattoos.

581
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: Are you.

582
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 10: Let me look at your body, like making sure.

583
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: And he has both of our files and he's like

584
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: making sure I don't have my tattoo my neck and

585
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: my chest. Okay, we got the right one. Put in

586
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: your clothes and you have the same. Marshals come get you,

587
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: and you know they roll up with it from cars.

588
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: It's like five in the morning, six in the morning,

589
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: big out rot. I mean, hear what's going on. They're like, oh,

590
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: you'll find out, don't worry about it. Man, where are

591
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: we going?

592
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 10: I can't tell you.

593
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: If I could see forward the truck.

594
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: It's a boutpool truck. And I'm noticing they're talking like

595
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: a little bit whispering, like yeah, soll he's not gonna

596
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: be with his brother nomore.

597
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 10: And I'm hearing them talk and I'm like, that's weird.

598
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 10: I can hear him saying it's coming up.

599
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: As soon as he said that.

600
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 10: It's coming up. I know what they're talking about, the billboard. Yeah,

601
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 10: because I know that it's there.

602
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: I know it's closed by we just left.

603
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 10: It's coming up.

604
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there he's like, yeah.

605
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 10: What you've been doing lately?

606
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: I kind of look at him like nothing, but I'm

607
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: actually stupid, Like and as we're driving, I can see

608
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: the huge billboards.

609
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 2: I could see that they're black.

610
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 10: I could see him in the corner mine because I

611
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 10: really looked part before he turned, and I'm like, oh shit,

612
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 10: I'm thinking about that. They look nice.

613
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: But when he said yeah, so what you've been doing,

614
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: he kind of looked at me. He wanted to see

615
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: my reaction, and I stirred at him. I didn't even

616
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: look at the blue words. I'm looking from the corners.

617
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, not much or other kids said. But

618
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: as soon as he did that, I'm like, shit, they know.

619
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think that I was still gonna get in trouble.

620
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 10: I'm just like, okay, they don't.

621
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: And uh, they drove me to the airport and they

622
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: didn't wanna talk to me about where I was going.

623
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: And it was actually a big jet and uh, they

624
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: kind of waved my way up.

625
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 10: You know, your chap shop order.

626
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: I kind of waved my way up to the airplane

627
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: and the pilots said, I said, hey, where we're playing?

628
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: Where we're going to?

629
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 10: He said New York. I'm like, hey, like, why the

630
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 10: fuck are we going to New York?

631
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: And he like, just just get in. We can't tell

632
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: you anything. Just sit down.

633
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 10: It was a plane ride to New York to the

634
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 10: MCC New.

635
00:35:49,280 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: York, Jay London. At New Accompold, he was greeted by

636
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 4: a sea of thirty squad cars and a whole bunch

637
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 4: of marshals. They accompanied him on the forty minute drive

638
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: from the airport to mcc New York, right in the

639
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: middle of downtown Manhattan.

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00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking, I'm going just for a week,

641
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: a couple of days, and I'm going to go back

642
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: to my brother. No, I go to a process. When

643
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: I get there and meet the union managery, I'm like,

644
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: excuse me, man, for how long they're here for?

645
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 9: For good?

646
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 10: That hurt me?

647
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, but why shakes oh, And I'm like,

648
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about, man, I said, yeah, sure,

649
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: you just got the wrong one.

650
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: That was my brother.

651
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Speaker 4: Surviving l Chapo. The Twins Who Brought Down a Drug Lord.

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