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Speaker 1: Say guys, there's a production of Iheartradios, a podcast We

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Speaker 1: Perfect summation of just our country where they're like here,

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by a very funny comedian and writer who you've seen

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Speaker 1: for Charlie Kirk, which.

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Speaker 3: He was a media guy. Like that's the other thing

441
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: he was just like a media guy.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and like one that had some pretty horrific

443
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Speaker 1: white supremacist views. So like the fact that like a

444
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: mainstream institution like the New York Yankees is holding a

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Speaker 1: moment of silence when again, like comparing this to Representative

446
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Speaker 1: Melissa Hortman, who was a politician in Minnesota who was assassinated.

447
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: She and her husband and their dog were assassinated in

448
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: their home by a Trump supporter earlier this year, and

449
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: the Yankees did not hold a moment of silence for them.

450
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Speaker 1: The Yankees statement that they issued on social media couldn't

451
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Speaker 1: be bothered to mention the school shooting that happened in Colorado,

452
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: like right at the same time. And yeah, it's just

453
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: it is a fallacy, logical fallacy that the right in

454
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: the United States really likes to play on, which is

455
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: just selection bias, and you know, Charley showing and like

456
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: focusing on crimes and really visceral things that are going

457
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: to support their political point of view, and you know,

458
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: they just pick and choose which victims of political violence

459
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Speaker 1: they recognize.

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Speaker 3: One thing real quick that I just sort of was thinking,

461
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Speaker 3: is that step with the Yankees thing. It's like that

462
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: came from the owner, like right, like that, like they.

463
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Speaker 2: Are a major League Baseball thing. Someone at the Yankees like,

464
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: we got to do this.

465
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Speaker 3: That's a guy that probably like at some function or whatever,

466
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: met Charlie Kirk, and I was like, he's a nice guy,

467
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: he's a family man. We have to do this. I

468
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 3: just kind of like because it is weird. It's like,

469
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Speaker 3: why would a baseball team comment on this in general?

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Speaker 2: Like what I think it indicates a guy And I

471
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 2: was saying this on the trending episode yesterday, is just

472
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Speaker 2: how much like the now default sort of perspective people

473
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 2: have is that of a conservative or through conservative.

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Speaker 1: Media institutionally that is certainly the case. Yeah, that's that's

475
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: just where that's the default now. And I think you know,

476
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: like even what the Yankees posted it said quote before

477
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Speaker 1: tonight's game, we had a moment of silence and more

478
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Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk. Kirk founded the youth activist group Turning

479
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: Point USA and become a fixture on college campuses. Charlie Kirk,

480
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Speaker 1: a husband and father of two thirty one years old.

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Speaker 1: You're like leaving out all of the details that as

482
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Speaker 1: the white supremacist group. Yeah, and what and exactly like that.

483
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 2: Rhetorically, they're fanning the flames of the of this completely

484
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: out of control fucking era we're in, especially with right

485
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 2: right wing extremism and the normalization of like white like

486
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: white nationalism. But again, I think that's because that's that's

487
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 2: currently the default of American culture. Culture is to be like, well,

488
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: we don't say things like that. We just look past that,

489
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: and we're just going to say that this is a

490
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: person and that's what it is. And yeah, I think

491
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: that's really The thing that was really that struck me

492
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: was to see the number of like pieces that were

493
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Speaker 2: written that were like leaving out all like just completely

494
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: obfuscating like what his legacy is in terms of a

495
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: media personality or if you want to, yeah, that's lessily ephimistic, right.

496
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Speaker 3: Or left or whatever. I mean, especially after something like

497
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: especially incredibly, I mean I saw the video gruesome, like

498
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 3: very real, very real, very traumatic. There is just such

499
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: a strong inclination to live in the fantasy world and

500
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: to not deal with the reality of what is actually

501
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 3: going on. So it's like this is a like opportunity

502
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: for a lot of people to harken back to like

503
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: a time that people are talking about free speech and

504
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: stuff like that in this and it's like literally what

505
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: a month and a half ago, cops are like busting

506
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: heads on college campuses. Is because students deign to say

507
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: we shouldn't give money to Israel, Like you know, it's

508
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: just like the totally totally it's just an opportunity. And

509
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 3: as we're seeing, you know, I'm sure we'll dig into this,

510
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: but like I just the thing that really got under

511
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: my skin was Nancy Mace just like reacting so and yes,

512
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: I understand it's raw, and I'm not denying anyone of

513
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: their emotional response to what happened and what they're seeing,

514
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: especially if they knew this guy. But they're immediately laying

515
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: it at They're literally saying, this is the Democrat's fault. Yeah,

516
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: they don't. They don't know who it is. I think

517
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: they've I think they've released a picture of the personnel,

518
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: but they have no lead, they have no idea who

519
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: it is or why they did it. And they're there.

520
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, this is what they want. They want

521
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: this moment and they want to foment it, and they

522
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 3: want it's probably easier for them if the Americans just

523
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 3: start attacking each other than if they have to do

524
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: any crowd control stuff or anything like that.

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00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think this is an excuse to do

526
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: the crowd control stuff that they want to do, which

527
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: will allow them to not have.

528
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

529
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, But just to reiterate this comparison that I think

530
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people are making. A US lawmaker, you know,

531
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: Melissa Hortman, a politician, was assassinated three months ago flags

532
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: were not flown at half masted across the country. Trump

533
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: has ordered that all flags across the country be flown

534
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: at half masted until fourteenth. Yeah, and his social media

535
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: response to the Hortman assassination back in June didn't even

536
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: mention her name, of course, didn't take any responsibility with

537
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, the person who committed that murder, being a

538
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: Trump supporter, refused to give Tim Walls a phone call

539
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: and skipped her funeral and went golfing with Lindsay Graham

540
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: in Stedge. So it it is just like you know,

541
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: the most it's blatantly politicized. Anything he's saying about like

542
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: political violence being out of hand is only being observed

543
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: about one type of political violence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm also just it's again the amount

545
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: of attention being paid to this by people who are

546
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: like diametrically opposed on the political spectrum. To Kirk, it's

547
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: like very odd to me. I'm like, I'm like, I

548
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe you just give it the same amount

549
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: of attention that the Republicans give to a slain Democratic lawmaker.

550
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: Right there is this sort of like having to prove

551
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: that they're like there's like a moral high ground. But

552
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, say whatever you need to say.

553
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: But to again, like to see people like write these

554
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: pieces in the New York Times were like I had

555
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: a lot in common with him, like you did in

556
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: what way? And then also be like he was a

557
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: free speech advocate, Like can you define free speech advocate?

558
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: Like does that mean they fight for everyone's right to

559
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: free speech?

560
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: Or it was such a big it was such a

561
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: big for part of the abundance agenda, right.

562
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: Right, Like what is going on? But again, I think

563
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: that's what's I think that's what's really surreal again is

564
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: to see how the culture is completely reset and be like, well,

565
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: this is the default way to speak about this. Don't

566
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: mention anything that like try and absolve this person of

567
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: everything they've said and every like horrible thing they've said

568
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: about non cishit white people.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's also where we see the like yeah,

570
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: journal journals and political pundits and other people with podcasts

571
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: are going to take that tack because in this moment,

572
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: like podcaster is like the ultimate like thing. It's not

573
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: it's not the political thing right now. It's like it's

574
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: the fact that this could happen to someone that isn't political,

575
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: isn't intellected, isn't a public official, but you know, has

576
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: the ears of all these many people, is a huge platform.

577
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: It's just it's it's just a it's a very hard

578
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: realization of how muddied everything has become and how obviously

579
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: there's something that we already knew but we're just seeing

580
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: it in real time. Just how the institutions are basically worthless.

581
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: I mean literally, like the FBI can't catch the guy

582
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: because there's this fuck an idiot that's in charge of

583
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: it right now, and like yeah, I mean just that.

584
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Was like live tweeting the thing was like we got someone. Okay,

585
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't him, we got some It wasn't like what

586
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: the fuck.

587
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 2: Man, It's like, why are you playing the crab? Rave Music.

588
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: After that we got it and we got him. Actually

589
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: we don't, we don't.

590
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, just another like kind of institutional thing, is

591
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: that South Park episode was taken down really in the aftermath? Yeah,

592
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: well it was taken off of Comedy Central. I think

593
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: it's still available on Paramount Plus.

594
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: But what was there one about this?

595
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: Wait or Charlie Cartman played a Charlie Kirk type character

596
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: with Charlie Kirk hare Oh shit, Yeah, I mean it

597
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: was a thing that, like, you know, Charlie Kirk said

598
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: he thought was hilarious. Yeah, I usually think this is hilarious.

599
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: But the way that people on the right responded to

600
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: that was somebody said on X they mocked him on TV,

601
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: then they killed him in real life, comedy has consequences.

602
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: A turning point, USA staffer posted on telegram.

603
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: The thing is like to get browbeaten like over this

604
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: when this it just obviously you have the intentionally hypocritical

605
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: people on the right who are like, right, please tell

606
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: me about jokes again and what leads to real life

607
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: outcomes and what doesn't. But I think that's what just

608
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: kind of surreal too, is you just see all of

609
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: this like someone who you hear their words and like

610
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: this is actually this is terrifying to hear someone express

611
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 2: these kinds of viewpoints to an audience of millions that

612
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: is meant to essentially make people like me or who

613
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: look like me like just subhuman and free to just

614
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: to to slander the good name of innocent people just

615
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: because they're transgender or whatever. I don't know. I mean,

616
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm I'm always like wrestling with how America just kind

617
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: of like rears its ugly head. But to have like

618
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: just kind of like to see it almost feel like

619
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: the tone of the media be like you have to

620
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: grieve this person right now. Yeah, it's a little It's

621
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: just it feels like, I'm like, what the fuck, man,

622
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm the ship that he was talking about is absolutely

623
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: terrifying to me, And I'm now expected to like feel

624
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: a completely different way about a person who says words

625
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: that are, for lack of a better word, presenting an

626
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: existential threat to people like me.

627
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a family.

628
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I get that, And you know, and

629
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: that's the thing I one hundred like, especially becoming a

630
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: parent myself, I don't wish an untimely death on anyone,

631
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: especially like what because I think about too. I think

632
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: about the position I'm in and if I left sooner

633
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: than I would hope, and thinking of my own children,

634
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: that's fucking terrible. But I think you can that can

635
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: be true, and you can also report on the fact

636
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: that everything this guy stood for was really like antithetical

637
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: to like what a decent America would look.

638
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: Like, and this is being used to kind of more

639
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: deeply ingrain those values into the mainstream of right.

640
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 3: No, no attent, no attempt to. That's one thing too

641
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: that I just always go to. It's like, look at

642
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: what the president is saying. The president is not saying

643
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: any sense of unity or coming together or anything like that.

644
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: Let's get it.

645
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 3: It's true, let's get them, Let's make it worse. And

646
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: it's just like, all right, well, I guess that's America. Yeah, okay,

647
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 3: two hundred odd years later, three hundred years later, whatever

648
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: half the country hates the other half of the country,

649
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: all right, I guess I guess the experiment worked.

650
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of

651
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 2: the fourth of July be real interesting. Next year they

652
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: look back. Wow, what a time it's been.

653
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee issued a tribute to American patriot Charlie

654
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Speaker 1: Kirk on social media. This is the same person that,

655
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: after the Hortman assassination, claimed the killer was a Marxist

656
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: and posted a photo of the killer with the caption

657
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: nightmare on Waltz Street.

658
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah it's and then yeah, it

659
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: took a while for people to be like, what the

660
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: fuck are you posting? Man, He's like, ah, sorry, all right,

661
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: all right, I'll take it down. I'll take it. Yeah.

662
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: Mike Lely is Utah, right, yeah, Mikeley is also Utah.

663
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: It's that's the crazy, the crazy. The fact that it

664
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: was in Utah is really dies. Yeah, like one of

665
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: the most conservative, homogeneous judge that that is very didn't

666
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: have that on my bingo card.

667
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh man, there it is.

668
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: You said it, all right. And that was my main

669
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: response to this was it was so random. It so random.

670
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: This year is like the most random year. I feel like,

671
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: oh my god, this year is so random, so fucking random.

672
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: Right now, Oh my god, did you see the ice rates.

673
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: The ice rates are crinn and they're like so random, random, random,

674
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: you guys.

675
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: You know there's a podcast talking like that too. Right now.

676
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: I think that's most so random right now, it's probably

677
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: hosted by all thirteen year olds, and it's fucking awesome.

678
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't so good like that food podcast with this

679
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: thirteen year old that's so good. Yeah, dude, Like, I

680
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think of Pepperoni pizza? Yeah,

681
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: all right, I think Pepperoni is a little sus But yeah,

682
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: it feels I mean they've set this tenor for a

683
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: long time, so it just I think in some ways

684
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: it's easy to dismiss is like, oh, that's just like

685
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: the right wing, fuck your feelings and sensitivity around the

686
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: killing of a democratic politician. But this, you know, it's

687
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: they're very specific and like an event like this and

688
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: their immediate politicist politicization of it makes it clear that

689
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: there is a larger strategy that you know, this is

690
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: allowing them to sell this bullshit narrative that the left

691
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: is solely responsible for political violence in America as opposed

692
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: to like rarely responsible for the political violence in America.

693
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just ironic too, coming from Republicans being like,

694
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: you know, you should you should really respect this person

695
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: and things need to be done in the aftermath of this,

696
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: When how many times do little children with children shot

697
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: to death and people like can you pass a fucking

698
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: law or something like is that? And again they're just

699
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: plugging their ears and just you know, whistling past the

700
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: graveyard like nothing's going on. And I think that's just

701
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 2: again like all of these ironies kind of really come

702
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: together to sort of like just present itself as like

703
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: one big mind fucking an event like this and be like, oh,

704
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: and now they're going to use this to make shit

705
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 2: worse for people. Probably.

706
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: I just think about the Oklahoma City bombing and like

707
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: the fact that that was like a right wing terrorist

708
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: and like right never takes like so many children, like

709
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: they blew up like a fucking preschool, and that's not

710
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: like when you think about that event, it's not like

711
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: and that was when we realized right wing terrorism was

712
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: a problem, and like it was just you know, a

713
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: detail of that not even I mean, I mean, I

714
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: that was ninety four, right, yeah, And I just remember

715
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: I was ten years old and not that I was

716
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: like an I watched the news because I was you know,

717
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: like on TV, and I just would watch TV. But

718
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: I remember like all of that was flattened into and

719
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: then this guy Timothy McVeigh did it lone wolf there pot, yeah,

720
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: boom and that's it. And then it wasn't until I

721
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: was fucking college it was like, wait, oh god, this

722
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: is part of this massive right wing movement, right, yeah,

723
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back

724
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: and talk about why this is probably one of our

725
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: last episodes.

726
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: We'll be right back and we're back. I mean, there's

727
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: so many reasons this might be one of our last. Gentlemen,

728
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: it's been a privilege and an honor podcasting with you

729
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: this evening. Yeah, now get out our violins.

730
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, and just play like shit because I don't know

731
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 6: how to play the violin. That would be amazing if

732
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 6: like one of the people was just like, sorry, i'm

733
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 6: freaking out a little bit.

734
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: Sorry. Also I'm not very good. Do you know this?

735
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: The fucking ship is really listing? Oh man, are we

736
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: still gonna play?

737
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: My hands are so fucking sweaty right now? How are

738
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: you guys playing?

739
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 3: Does theyone have an ox chord?

740
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? It would be much easier if I can just

741
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: play something, some kind some chamber of music. But yeah,

742
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: I only say that and maybe flippantly, maybe sincerely, because ai,

743
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like they're gearing up to take

744
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: over the podcasting world because the Hollywood Reporter recently had

745
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: a piece where they spoke with the people behind Inception

746
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: AI and they make just a fuck ton of AI podcasts.

747
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: I'll get to the numbers in a second. And they

748
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 2: try to frame this article like in the beginning, like, God,

749
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: aren't people aren't like networks tired of paying like humans

750
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: to talk or like paying celebrities like these crazy deals.

751
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: I do get what's the most appointing? What's the most

752
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: annoying part of podcasts? Having? That's the worst fucking part?

753
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: Am I right, ladies? This year is so random. But anyway,

754
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: the CEO of this AI company is a former exec

755
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: from Wondery, another podcast network, and the Jack alluded to

756
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: her like Facebook post that she put it out to

757
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: like announce this thing. Hey, this is the full part.

758
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to emerge from stealth and share the public

759
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: debut of Inception Point AI, the company I joined as

760
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: co founder and CEO this summer. Yeah, just to what

761
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: an opening.

762
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: Sorry emerge from still to emerge from stealth and share

763
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: this like is such a great way to open any

764
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: work of social media.

765
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can join as a co founder.

766
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: I think it's it's because someone with a fuck ton

767
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: of money goes, Hey, we'd love for you to be

768
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: the face of this thing, to give this some credibility.

769
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: Will be co founder, We'll make CEO. Yeah, because also,

770
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: like I guess, I guess I haven't heard that phrase

771
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: emerge from Stealth before, but I know goddamn little little

772
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 2: wonky use of that word.

773
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: Thrilled to take off my ghost protocol hood and reveal that.

774
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm that I've joined an AI podcast company. Goes on

775
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: and as Jack said, we believe that in the near future,

776
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: half of the people on the planet will be AI.

777
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: That's when my eyes rolled into the back of my

778
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 2: head and I go, we're cooked that you if their

779
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: people sip in the AI kool aid? This hard, I mean,

780
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: fucking yikes. She goes on to say, we're bringing these

781
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: people to life, and we're bringing the next generation content

782
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: business model, all powered by AI. In the process, we

783
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: built what we believe to be the first AI talent

784
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: management agency with an extensive roster of fake ass people

785
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: we created with algorithms.

786
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: And that's that's been a thing already too.

787
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we've had these voices these voice models being

788
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: created and things like that. But now they're really trying

789
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 2: to like brand each one and be like and they

790
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: do all kinds of stuff. So their whole model is

791
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: essentially to flood the zone with shit podcasts. But because

792
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: their overhead is so low, they can make a profit

793
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: on a laughably small number of listens. This is from

794
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: the High Report quote. The company is able to produce

795
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: each episode for one dollar or less, depending on length

796
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: and complexity, and attached programmatic advertising to it. This generally

797
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: means that if about twenty people listen to that episode,

798
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: the company made a profit on that episode without factoring

799
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: in overhead inception. Point Air has already made more than

800
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: five thousand shows across its network and produces more than

801
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: three thousand episodes a week.

802
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: Wow, and yeas been up for like a couple of years,

803
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: which does again beg the question of joining as a

804
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: co founder two years in.

805
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: It's good negotiating tactic. Really, I'm going to see.

806
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: This being just like like a nonstarter because I do

807
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: think that the thing people look for from podcasts is humanity.

808
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: It's like a thing that like they they're not just

809
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: necessarily looking for like some quick way to get a voice,

810
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: facts shoveled into their brain. I think a lot of

811
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: the time you could read an article if you wanted that,

812
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: or like have an article read to you.

813
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: But I could also.

814
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: See this kind of ruining things because they're going to

815
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: be flooding the zone with so much shit.

816
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: That's the part. That's the part right there, that's the

817
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: Amazon thing.

818
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah right, there's going to be so many bad podcasts

819
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: indistinguishable from our bad podcast but completely you know, flooding everything.

820
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: There will be like five different podcasts. The good news is, like,

821
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: this is not how people like. People don't find podcasts

822
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: by being like, all right, I'm going to go to

823
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: uh ai and search for a topic that I think

824
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: I want to know about, and then you know, people

825
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: find out about podcasts and then become followers.

826
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: Some do, apparent according to them, apparently because their whole

827
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: thing set up is cool. Podcast topics are selected with

828
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: the help of a based on Google and social media trends,

829
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: and then the team may launch five different versions of

830
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 2: the show with different titles to see what performs the best.

831
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: The podcasts are often titled for simple SEO search terms,

832
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: such as Wales Wales, Yeah, it's I was. I went

833
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: to the one of our most popular episode is Whales

834
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: is Whales?

835
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: They got Whales?

836
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I went to there. I went to their

837
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: website to just look at what their shows are called.

838
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 2: And it's shipped like this diddy verdict, the British monarchy,

839
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: like this one's crazy AI and the climate crisis. Are

840
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: you fucking serious You're doing it.

841
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: With AI and thus contributing to the climate crisis.

842
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

843
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: Like what is that one talking about the assassins.

844
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: Bourbon Betty Betty, Benny Boop, Chaos, Chuck MANGIONI Forever China,

845
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: communism creating, there's creatine? Are these all podcasts? Are these

846
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: episodes of the podcast?

847
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: These are series?

848
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: Tell me a one, I'll click on it and we

849
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: can here, we can listen to one. I mean I

850
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: don't want to hear socialism. Oh the socialism or they

851
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: take it down. Okay, let's see this is uh, this

852
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: is this is here what they got? Oh I'm not

853
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: signing up you fucking know, Yeah, you need to pay

854
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: for it.

855
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 3: I get you. Let's see, which simply means I never

856
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 3: forget a vote, a quote, or a constitutional clause. This

857
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: is no ego, no pack money, just pure relentless recall.

858
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: Tonight we're tackling one of the most misunderstood, maligned, and

859
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: frankly butchered concepts in American political discourse, socialism. But here's

860
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: my question, though you can like and maybe it will

861
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 3: get better to where you really can't, but you can

862
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: tell that that is AI.

863
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well they're also they're trying to they're

864
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: sort of like trying to be quote unquote ethical where

865
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 2: they have the hosts up top say their AI yeah,

866
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: and one of the founders is like, look, dude, I'm

867
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: not trying and I have like create like these models

868
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: that people are gonna have like deep relationships with because

869
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: like this they see it as a completely different lane

870
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: than human hosted podcast. But like when you look at it,

871
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: you're like, you're doing you're you're talking about subjects that

872
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: humans currently make podcasts about. So I don't know how

873
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: you You're like, well, no, I'm not meant to replace

874
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: that at all. Like it's just we're just doing the

875
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: same thing. They are out of insane scale and maybe

876
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: people will listen to it, like you know, they're they

877
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: have the hosts. The names are really fucking dumb, Like

878
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: for the food podcast.

879
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. I think these

880
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: names are totally normal.

881
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: Okay, what name the host of the food podcast Jack?

882
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: All right?

883
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: The food podcast is named uh oh. I actually love her.

884
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: I actually follow her on lots of different Claire Delish

885
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: and then of course my favorite source for gardening info

886
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: my health mm hmm, Nigel this.

887
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and the fucking like the the AI models are

888
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: like it sounds like the same ones you hear on

889
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: TikTok basically when people use AI to caption shit.

890
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: But again, I believes the nominative determinism noma yeah.

891
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like one of the finance one was like

892
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: Penny power or something like that. Quite dumb, goofy shit.

893
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: But again, I mean like I don't know, like they

894
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: will it replace it? I don't know, but I think,

895
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: like to your point, Alan, like, it's bad when you

896
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: have someone putting out three thousand episodes a week of

897
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: distinguishable bullshit, because that just makes it harder for anyone

898
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: who actually wants to podcast to be to have to

899
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: like there's now it's just all noise and now yeah,

900
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 2: that's finally good ones.

901
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: That's like a big part of the Amazon's thing It's

902
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: like it's not that they just are undercutting and they

903
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 3: sell the product cheaper. It's said they've also like they've

904
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: taken away a viable way for people to make money,

905
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: like opening a small business to like sell goods is

906
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: a ad business idea now because of Amazon. And so that, yeah,

907
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: that definitely and and I mean I will say this,

908
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: podcasters are truly some of the sickest people in the

909
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: in the sphere of the internet or whatever. They went away,

910
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: so they're still going They're still gonna like go after it.

911
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: But I and it is the type of thing where

912
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 3: you do just think like, well, wait, but what if

913
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: there are people that aren't just that discerning and they're like, oh,

914
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: I'm listening to this, you know, AI podcast and they

915
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: don't believe, they don't care one way or the other.

916
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: Right, they were about to on the Socialism one. I

917
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: could hear the hosts leading into so pour yourself a

918
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: glass of your favorite bourbon or something like that, and

919
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, that is like that there's

920
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: a certain type of like medium tier podcast that like

921
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: I've accidentally listened to where that's like the human element

922
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: is like, so pour yourself a favorite glass of bourbon.

923
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: I've got mine right here, right, and we're gonna dig in,

924
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, so maybe, yeah, maybe this is gonna hit

925
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: hit with the people who like listen to whatever those

926
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: shows are.

927
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: We gotta hit, we gotta hit. I mean, it's fun.

928
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: The co founder of it, who I imagine is the

929
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 2: actual founder of it or the person who started he

930
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: got into this because in during the pandemic, he just

931
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: started like reading like weather reports and shit or no,

932
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: he was reading daily CDC reports and then like and

933
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: then a bunch of people started reloading it. Yeah, just

934
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: because he was just just reading off a cdcreport and

935
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, okay now, and then he did like

936
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: weather roots did this yeah, and he's like, whoa weather report?

937
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: And then he was like, there's a quote from me.

938
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, talking about how people who are

939
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: really like if you have crazy allergies, you look at

940
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: like the pollen Report and stuff. He said, quote, we

941
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: might make a pollen podcast and maybe only fifty people

942
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: listen to, but I'm already at unit profitability on that,

943
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: so then maybe I can make five hundred pollen report podcasts.

944
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: Like these people don't. This is what happened never made

945
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: a thing in their life.

946
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: Why have we never once on this on the many

947
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: many hours of the show used the phrase.

948
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: Unit profit.

949
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: Then a cool and soulful term that that founder. And

950
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: you know he is the actual founder because his name

951
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: is Pod Founderman. So oh, the Cincinnati Founderman's the.

952
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: Cincinnati founder, formly formerly of Louisville, Kentucky.

953
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: All right, Uh so that sucks, but we there is

954
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: some light at the end of the tunnel because Kamala

955
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: Harris has announced her memoir.

956
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: It's coming.

957
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: It's uh, I guess she hasn't announced it. She announced

958
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: it a long time ago. It's coming. It's called one

959
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: hundred and seven Days. So it's like about the one

960
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: hundred and seven days that she ran for president.

961
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: Do you guys remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

962
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: We all realized like Biden was bad and then he

963
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: we finally like everybody just pressured him enough into leaving

964
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: the race. And then she had one hundred and seven

965
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: days run for president and like started with a spark

966
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: and had like a couple of good ideas and then

967
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: those were immediately like like replaced by terrible shit by

968
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and had a chance their advisors. Yeah,

969
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: she like had ideas about like greed flation and calling

970
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: the Democratic or the Republican party weird, and they're.

971
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: Like no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

972
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: Shut the Why don't you shut the fuck up?

973
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? I wonder here, kiss uh kiss Dick Cheney's daughter

974
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: right now, kiss her on stage. That's gonna work.

975
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, she's she's doing some book tours, not at bookstores,

976
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: but on a live speaking to our major venues. Some

977
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: tickets going for more than four hundred dollars, not from

978
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: like a reseller. That's the official price for a platinum ticket.

979
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: What a fucking griff man. That's amazing. Just like man,

980
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: that was a that was a shitty presidential campaign. Huh

981
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: you want to hear me talk about it for four

982
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: hundred bucks? Yeah? Yeah, I do, I do, I do?

983
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: I do. The excerpts are pretty telling, I'd say.

984
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: Presumably like people are looking for some t spillage and

985
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: like she she just really published an excerpt in the

986
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: Atlantic that defends Biden to some extent, claiming that there

987
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: was no cover up concerning his mental decline.

988
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's where you lost me.

989
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: Coma come on now, yeah, I mean you saw some

990
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: ship also would kind of implicate her some Yeah right, yeah,

991
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: in a.

992
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: Way, there wasn't really a cover up because literally the

993
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 3: entire country it was like, oh, that's all sides of

994
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: every like there were like a few people that tried

995
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: to deny it, but like.

996
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just chose question, right right. She also said,

997
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: and this is the refrain from the Biden side his debate,

998
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: clusterfuck wasn't incapacity. It was just tiredness owing to recent trips.

999
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: And I think and then add in from Hunter Biden,

1000
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of ambient sprinkled in, so he was

1001
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't incapacity. He's just at an age where he

1002
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: was incapacitated by being a little bit tired.

1003
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: He was taking a trip down memory Lane's.

1004
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: Trips to take that that thing from Hunter Biden, He's like,

1005
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: I was on ambient And then like they looked at

1006
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: the schedules, like bro he was he was traveled like

1007
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: traveling like a week solidly before that. But again, like

1008
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: you're saying, like that's not good if just if traveling

1009
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: makes you all tired like that and you want to

1010
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: be cockered out from a trip like a week later,

1011
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: like that's that's not a good sign that's like me,

1012
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm tuckered out from a trip a week later, but

1013
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: like I don't want to be present.

1014
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: I would be so bad at being president. I'd be

1015
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: so fucking sleepy.

1016
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 2: What would you do if.

1017
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: My comes up to you and says head er, gut

1018
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: jack and I cry my superpower crying the way out

1019
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: of things well into my.

1020
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: Would be interesting that, like the American president with a

1021
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: completely different strategy from past American leaders openly sobbing pathetically

1022
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: as a way to get.

1023
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: Just like stop, like they just stop like invading them,

1024
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: Like what the hell, all.

1025
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: Right, Jesus, stop fucking crying. Man, my god, you're gonna

1026
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: get snot on my suit.

1027
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: Promise taft taft, big crier.

1028
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but yeah there are other things too where

1029
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: she was like where she is sort of like, look,

1030
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: there are a lot of times that right wing media

1031
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: was attacking me and they just didn't say shit, The

1032
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: White House didn't have my back at fucking all, and

1033
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: they're like absolutely accurate.

1034
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: Like the energy coming out of the Biden camp during

1035
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: her run for president was like I don't know, ha haha.

1036
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: Not so easy to have a candidate who doesn't suck shit. Huh,

1037
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like they were just

1038
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: like praying she would. You got a sense that at

1039
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 1: least a large part of them, maybe there were two

1040
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: wolves inside of them, and one was rooting for her,

1041
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: but another was definitely hoping to see her fail and

1042
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: be vindicated for thinking that they had a better shot

1043
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: than her.

1044
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's another thing that she said to quote,

1045
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: it's Joe and Jill's decision. We all said that like

1046
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: a mantra, as if we'd all been hypnotized. The stakes

1047
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should

1048
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: have should have been left to an individual's ego and

1049
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Yeah, okay,

1050
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess like there's really nothing in

1051
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: here that isn't that's like shocking to me. I'm like, yeah,

1052
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: of course they hung you out to dry like that.

1053
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: I mean, I saw that this part, which I think

1054
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: we knew already worse. I often learned that the president's

1055
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: staff was adding fuel to negative narratives that sprang up

1056
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: around me. One narrative that took a stubborn hold was

1057
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: that I had a chaotic office and unusually high staff

1058
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: turnover during my first year as vice president. I do

1059
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: remember that coming at a pretty critical point.

1060
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the and like that wasn't coming Like they

1061
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't have posted that if that was coming from like

1062
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: jd Vance, you know what I mean, Like that was

1063
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: coming from someone inside administration.

1064
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fucked.

1065
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 3: Up a lot of the two. It's like the Biden

1066
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: cognitive whatever cover up this about how his team was

1067
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 3: mean to her. All of it just reads is like

1068
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: the Democratic Party has no idea what the fuck it's doing.

1069
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: And like if if if this is what like and

1070
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, I I to me, she feels done,

1071
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I feel like, guys, like a populace,

1072
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: we're done with her. She also, I think, feels done

1073
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 3: like I don't know if she would run again, but

1074
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: if she, if she does, you know maybe, but like

1075
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 3: I'm just like, if this is what we're still talking about,

1076
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: it's like we're fuckedating.

1077
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah the obvious, like why did we lose? Like, guys,

1078
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: is it really that much of a mystery to you?

1079
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1080
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: I think that's the only reason this story is of

1081
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: value is just to further drive nails into the coffin

1082
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party. It's just like, guys, look how

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Speaker 1: bad it was behind the scenes, Like we all thought

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Speaker 1: that they had a chance, because we were hoping they

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Speaker 1: had a chance. Behind the scenes, they were blowing it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a capitalist clown show, and they don't know,

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Speaker 2: they don't realize how their devotion to capitalism and the

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Speaker 2: status quo was really its whole undoing. And now it's

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Speaker 2: now that I now seeing the quotes from the Biden

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Speaker 2: administration people that are like giving quotes after in the

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Speaker 2: aftermath of this excerpt, I'm like, now I believe everything

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Speaker 2: she says. Like one person said, quote Vice President Harris

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Speaker 2: was simply not good at the job. She had basically

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Speaker 2: zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams,

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Speaker 2: and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo

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Speaker 2: ops that expressed how out of depth she. Wow, holy shit, dude.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're saying now. The day after this, yeah

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Speaker 1: came out, President Biden was not there were mean. Actually

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Speaker 1: you're fucking stupid. Yeah, you're actually fucking dumb what we're

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Speaker 1: saying at all. Yeah, it's it's just being mean.

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Speaker 2: Nobody likes you, but No one's going to tell you

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Speaker 2: that to your face, but nobody actually likes you. They

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Speaker 2: going to say, quote, President Biden was not the reason

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Speaker 2: she struggled in officer tanked her twenty nineteen presidential campaign

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Speaker 2: or lost the twenty twenty four campaign for that matter.

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Speaker 2: The independent variable there is the Vice president, not Biden

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Speaker 2: or his aides.

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Speaker 1: Damn, you're like, that's like the best I've seen them

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Speaker 1: at being like critical and clap the backbone. They can't.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't do that against Trump.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't. Yeah, it's just but there's other quotes too

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Speaker 2: that back what she says. Another aide or staffer who

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Speaker 2: spoke in this one article, I think, let me just

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Speaker 2: think before was it in the New Republic said that quote.

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Speaker 2: We all know that the Biden folks treated her and

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Speaker 2: her team like shit. We never thought she would actually

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Speaker 2: say anything. Staffers across a range of ages and positions

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Speaker 2: that I'm talking to are proud of her. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: there's clearly, like I mean again, it just shows a

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Speaker 2: very divided administration. And I think that was really probably

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Speaker 2: became clear as Biden just sat on his hands after

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Speaker 2: October seventh, too, right, So yeah, we will see where

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Speaker 2: if this, if this harms her career because you have

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Speaker 2: other people being like, well, she just nuked her career. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean like I feel like the type of people

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Speaker 1: who say that, who are like play it safe politically

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Speaker 1: always have have proven that they have some of the

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Speaker 1: worst instincts in modern politics.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like think about like Anthony Wiener, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, who went to prison, like he's even

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Speaker 2: trying to get back in. Yeah, you know, it takes

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Speaker 2: a lot to get it through to these people that

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Speaker 2: it's like, hey, maybe you cooked. Yeah I don't think. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If only they had like some blueprint of a path

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Speaker 1: forward that had a lot of public support, like just

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Speaker 1: like Kandar mayor old candidate who was dominant and extremely

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Speaker 1: popular that they've chosen to completely ignore and try and

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Speaker 1: fuck over.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's like the thing where it's like it's like

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Speaker 2: you say, like the like the Democrats are like like

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Speaker 2: big pepsi people, and they're like, no, it's pepsi for evy,

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Speaker 2: like everyone likes coked. No, no, it's pepsi. It's like

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Speaker 2: I look at the fucking numbers man. Everyone nobody's drinking

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Speaker 2: PEP numbers it tainted and like they can't even fucking

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Speaker 2: admit it. They're just like fuck fuck, like none of

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Speaker 2: them are backing zor like like what the fuck is

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Speaker 2: going on that?

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Speaker 3: I mean again, it's just like I I've just never

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Speaker 3: felt more done with the Democratic Party as a whole.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't know what you want from me.

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Speaker 3: I want nothing from you guys. I guess like this

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Speaker 3: is just crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seems bad.

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Speaker 1: Well, Alan Strick Williams, such a pleasure having you on

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Speaker 1: the Daily like Geist as always. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff?

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Speaker 3: Find me on Instagram, Alan Strick and Williams. I'm totally

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Speaker 3: allen on Twitter, on TikTok, I think Alan stickwings dot

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Speaker 3: com is where you can find show dates and links

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Speaker 3: to the album and links to my podcast and links

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Speaker 3: to all my social stuff. But yeah, listen to the

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Speaker 3: new episode of Finding My Audience with Chris crofton Buy

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Speaker 3: my album ran through. Keep supporting the Daily esyite Geist

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Speaker 3: and you know what, also, just just keep going, Hey,

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Speaker 3: all right, just keep on keep going.

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Speaker 2: Just keep going, just one one foot in front of you,

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Speaker 2: say the most random stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm not chopped am I.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is the first time that we've

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Speaker 1: had you on that we haven't commented on how great

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Speaker 1: your hair is. So I do real quick. Some of

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Speaker 1: the best hair videos of you write a convertible.

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Speaker 3: I actually do have a video of myself in a

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Speaker 3: convertible on Adult Swim. You can watch the last open

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Speaker 3: mic at the end of the World.

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Speaker 2: Yeah this guy.

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Speaker 3: It was during the pandemic. They did a comedy open

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Speaker 3: mic for Adult Swim. Megan Kister did it and it

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Speaker 3: was you did it from your car because it's the pandemic.

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Speaker 3: So I rented a convertible to do it. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I wore I think I wore the drive

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Speaker 3: jacket too.

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Speaker 1: You took a year off the life of the sound

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Speaker 1: person on that special to assent. Yeah awesome. Is there

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Speaker 1: a work of media that you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw this tweet. You know, this was yesterday,

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Speaker 3: so I know it's weird with the time end of

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Speaker 3: the episode, but this says twas the night before. This

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Speaker 3: is September tenth, twas the night before. This is from

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Speaker 3: a Jason Musti and it's just a picture of a

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Speaker 3: plate of cookies and a picture of George W. Bush

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Speaker 3: the night before.

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Speaker 1: Yes, miles, where can people find you? Is there a

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Speaker 1: working media you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find

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Speaker 2: me on four to twenty talking about ninety day fiance

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Speaker 2: with Sophia Alexandra. Let's see. Is there a thing, a

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Speaker 2: work of media that I enjoyed? Not really, I think

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Speaker 2: I was kind of avoiding the media, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: But I did work of media you've enjoyed avoiding?

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Speaker 2: Yes? All social media?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Social media? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes I will. I

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Speaker 2: will avoid social media just in one thing. Bosh Ferlinger

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Speaker 2: at jafra doty sky dots, social post it. I guess

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Speaker 2: the main thing I'm learning this week is that lots

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Speaker 2: of elite media people knew Charlie Kirk personally and didn't

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Speaker 2: know any Minnesota state legislators.

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Speaker 1: Seems to be the case. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian on Blue Sky Jack ob

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Speaker 1: the number one.

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Speaker 2: I liked this.

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Speaker 1: I think I've shared this before, but this is kurb

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Speaker 1: Von and get on buying an envelope. This is Rosalind

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Speaker 1: Marghlize responded with this quote to a post from zech

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Speaker 1: Zech which said order your groceries saves an extra one

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Speaker 1: to two hours a week. Compounded, that's five fifty to

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Speaker 1: one hundred hours a year, a whole week work of

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Speaker 1: worth of work you gain. I promise that that time

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Speaker 1: is more important than the ten dollars delivery fee that

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Speaker 1: was from Zech. And then Rosalind Marghlez tweeted this quote

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Speaker 1: from kurb Von to get on buying an envelope. Oh,

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Speaker 1: she says, well, you're not a poor man, you know,

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Speaker 1: why don't you go online and buy a hundred envelopes

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Speaker 1: and put them in the closet. And so I pretend

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Speaker 1: not to hear her and go out to get an envelope,

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Speaker 1: because I'm going to have a hell of a good time.

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Speaker 1: In the process of buying one envelope, I meet a

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Speaker 1: lot of people and see some great looking babies, and

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Speaker 1: a fire engine goes by and I give them the

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Speaker 1: thumbs up, and I'll ask a woman what kind of

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Speaker 1: dog that is? And I don't know. The moral of

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Speaker 1: the story is we're here on earth to fart around,

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Speaker 1: and of course the computers will do us out of that.

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Speaker 1: And what the computer people don't realize, or they don't

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Speaker 1: care is we're dancing animals. You know, we love to

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Speaker 1: move around, and it's like we're not supposed to dance anymore,

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Speaker 1: So preach Kurt Vona get I guess pretty good. You

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Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: We're at the Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram. You can go

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Speaker 1: to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,

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Speaker 1: and there at the bottom of the description you will

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Speaker 1: find the footnotes, which is where we link off to

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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode. We

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Speaker 1: also link off to a song that we think you

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Speaker 1: might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think

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Speaker 1: that people might enjoy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oddly enough. I was just watching the latest Team

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Speaker 2: and Paula video for the track Loser that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: on the album Deadbeat. And what's the guy Joe Kearney,

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Speaker 2: the guy from Strangers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's in it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's nice. It's like it's like so East LA.

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Speaker 2: It's like that whole setting is like such east side

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, just on this one little corner market. But

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Speaker 2: I'm also a big Kevin Parker fan. Uh, and I'm

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Speaker 2: really looking forward to this album. So you know, we'll

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Speaker 2: keep teasing these songs.

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Speaker 1: Out in drips and drabs, but this is a loser

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Speaker 1: by Tam and PAULA Yeah, shout out to music videos.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Paul Thomas Anderson was like talking to

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Speaker 1: about his new movie which he shot in like some

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Speaker 1: old school form of like film that hadn't been used

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Speaker 1: a long time. I think like panorama vision or something

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Speaker 1: panavision panavision, and he was like, yeah, I like made

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Speaker 1: a music video a couple of years ago and like

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Speaker 1: used it and it was like fun as hell. So

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Speaker 1: you know, like people, people are doing cool stuff in

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Speaker 1: music video still, it's just like nobody has watched them

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Speaker 1: in years. Anyways, We will link off to that in

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Speaker 1: the footnotes. The Daily es Eye Guys is a production

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Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us this week. We are

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Speaker 1: back on Monday to tell you what happened over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: what is trending on Monday morning, and we will talk

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Speaker 1: to you all then. Be safe out there everyone.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye. The Daily Zeite Guys is executive produced by

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Speaker 2: Catherine Law, co produced by bay Way, co produced by

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Speaker 2: Victor Wright.

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