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Speaker 2: thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

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Speaker 2: What an exciting ball game as the Clippers go into

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Speaker 2: Denver and they win one oh five one o two

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Speaker 2: thanks to Kawhi Leonards virtue OsO fifteen or nineteen from

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Speaker 2: Clippers After a tough loss on Saturday, they come back

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Speaker 2: Uh you know the game one. I thought they play

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Speaker 2: You're right, you know, probably down to the to the end.

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Speaker 1: He looked.

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Speaker 2: He looked good tonight. Uh for me, I like, I

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Speaker 1: He gave him everything they was looking for tonight. Man,

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Speaker 2: You didn't need James to be special tonight. He was

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Speaker 2: a great matchup. But all in all, the Clippers did

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Speaker 1: Man, they look good.

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Speaker 1: But it was quiet and I thought it was very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Joe Kawhi had it going, but tyl Lou gave him

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Speaker 1: He was dog tired because he.

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Speaker 2: Played thirty nine minutes and they needed all thirty nine

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Speaker 2: down to the end. Michael Porter Junior played extremely well.

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Speaker 2: He had six offensive rebounds. They needed a call to

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, what do you like about what you saw tonight? Listen?

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Speaker 4: Tyler had them boys ready to play un he hadn't

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Speaker 4: ready to play Kawhi. I'm not sure what Kawhi. I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure what Kawai did, what his routine was before

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Speaker 1: The choir I saw the night Onkie was special.

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Speaker 4: We've talked about his injuries, we talked about him not

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Speaker 4: playing games and missing games, but I don't know who

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Speaker 4: that was tonight. We've seen it before, but I've never

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Speaker 4: this efficient, like this tonight. Obviously you had Norman Paw

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Speaker 4: only turning over eleven. Obviously, Joker having a triple double,

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Speaker 4: which also contributed to them losing tonight.

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Speaker 1: But the Clippers then well, Tylou did what he needed to.

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Speaker 2: Because when you look at it, Joe as o Joe

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Speaker 2: plus eighteen in rebound margin, plus eight offensive rebound margin.

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Speaker 2: But when you plus nine in the turnover and you

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Speaker 2: but you missed eight of them. You turnover miss free throws.

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: We gotta continue to fight. Uh, we gotta go. We

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Speaker 2: You know, we gotta dig the guy deep and find

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I thought they played pretty good. Uh, considering the big

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Speaker 1: Honestly.

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Speaker 1: But what I will say is.

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Speaker 2: When you look at the Clippers, I think when they

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Speaker 1: Uh, we'll play a lot better.

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Speaker 2: Role Players normally play better at home, normally play better

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Speaker 2: the Nuggets. But you got to give the Clippers credit

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Speaker 2: I don't. This is a different team than the bubble. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Scrappy.

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Speaker 2: Got a bunch of life size guys and play multiple

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Speaker 2: Denver know what the Clippers going around. Y'all can't show

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Speaker 1: We know what y'all.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's your will versus my will. And that's that's what's

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Speaker 2: It's like who wants is the most and right now, man,

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Speaker 2: the Clippers got ahold of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Hey, did you just say you don't think

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Speaker 2: He know, I've said I don't think if the Nuggets

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Speaker 2: He's playing extremely well right now. As Joe said earlier,

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Speaker 2: he's locked in. Yeah, Now you let him get that

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Speaker 2: raises up over you. He hadn't gone tonight because he

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Speaker 2: made some very difficult shots over two defenders. Give him

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Speaker 2: He was one of the main reasons why they won.

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Speaker 2: Zubos doing what Zubos does. Zude, just give us sixteen

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Speaker 2: the offense. On the defensive end, I was surprised. I

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Speaker 2: three point line. Nah, that is what you need to be, bro.

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Speaker 2: Take your ass down to the paint, get up on

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Speaker 2: eight and they go to the picket roll or murray,

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Speaker 2: they may come ay cloutside, go hey, get get away

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Speaker 2: and let me go to work on Ben's ain't no

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Speaker 2: the key with Ben Simmons on you if you Nicola

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Speaker 2: Yokic Joe, and he was.

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Speaker 1: And he was. They had Yoka jeffing and puffing out there. Man,

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Speaker 2: Early on, they catched him at the three point line

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Speaker 2: by they banging them all the way to the paint.

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Speaker 2: So by the time we get to the paint, he'll

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Speaker 2: a little tired and exhausted. The boss for him to

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Speaker 2: kind of get into his get into his mojo like

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Speaker 1: We're in the playoffs now. Nothing is easy.

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Speaker 2: They not just gonna let him walk down to that

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Speaker 2: jump hooks all night. Now, we ain't going for that.

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Speaker 2: You got to work to the big fella. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they do it. They do it a great job. They

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Speaker 1: H Zoo Box is banging on him.

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Speaker 2: But like I said, you get a reprieve once they

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Speaker 2: Simmons light ass out because I understand he's sixteen, but

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Speaker 1: He ain't a big body like zoo box.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now he's not. He's not a big body like

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Speaker 2: zoo box. For look yup, was playing a great game.

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Speaker 2: He still had a nice beastie triple double.

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Speaker 2: They had them seven turnovers though hurt him. Though Kevin

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: It's like whenever he wants to shoot the three balls

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Speaker 2: seven points, but they didn't get nearly enough from Carl

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00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 2: Length any times. He only had ten points on five

439
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 2: of the level shooting fil trouble was the big reason why.

440
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 2: But Michal Bridges had nineteen, OG had ten, Cat had ten,

441
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 2: Josh Hart had ten, but it wasn't enough. Jylen Brunson

442
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,120
Speaker 2: at thirty seven, but it was the thirty three points

443
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,959
Speaker 2: from Kate Cunningham, twelve points, thirteen rebounds from Durham and

444
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 2: fifteen points from and thirteen rebounds from Tobias Harris, and

445
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 2: they beat the Knicks on the glass forty eight to

446
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: thirty four.

447
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: I was surprised at how they dominated the glass.

448
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 2: You know, consider you got Cat, consider you got Mitchell Robinson,

449
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 2: consider you got og Aleanobi and they dominated the glass.

450
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 2: And I think that was one of the reasons why

451
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 2: they won the ball game, even though they had more turnovers.

452
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 2: But they've took the ball to the quank thirty four

453
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 2: free throw tails Joe thirty four to nineteen.

454
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 4: Hey all, yes, I mean, listen, I think the difference

455
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 4: is night game. Jayleen Bronston had thirty four. Last game

456
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 4: tonight he had thirty seven. But nobody else, nobody else

457
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 4: for the contributed or didn't contribute enough to kind of

458
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 4: the balance and madden the encounter what the pitsts were

459
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 4: able to do. If k had the k had thirty three,

460
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 4: he had thirty three eleven one from shooting, you know,

461
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 4: he had twelve rebounds. But then you also have shooter

462
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 4: contributing that, you had Tobias Harris contributed contributing as well.

463
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 1: Then you look at the Knicks.

464
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 4: You got thirty seven from Jayalen Brunton, Carl Anthony Towns.

465
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 4: I mean, he doesn't show up like the Carl Anthony

466
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 4: Towns that were used to seeing Josh hard. There was

467
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 4: nobody else, so when just it was the one man

468
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 4: show at the poll three on the other end. Therefore,

469
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 4: that's why the results were what they were and why

470
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 4: they were able to bounce back that God damn k

471
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 4: k cut ham.

472
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: Boy, he's special, boy boy, he's special. Well he's something nice.

473
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 1: Now you remind me of myself and a go ahead,

474
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: No John Joe, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't

475
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: because before before it was ice old Joe. You know

476
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: they you know, they called me a yeah school bro. Alright,

477
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: so old Joe. I actually so, I wouldn't o Joe yet.

478
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: I was. I sold Peppe back.

479
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, I'm gonna we're gonna get back

480
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: to this game. But I did some digging and I

481
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: found some footage on you and their teammate game. You

482
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 2: on teammate, Yeah, you teammate player. I seen that footage

483
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: you on teammate.

484
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yaage. That was garbage. O Joe got.

485
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: You chew bubble gud Man. I said, man, what I'm

486
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 2: trying to hit thing? You can't make the lady up,

487
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: none of that?

488
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 4: Oh nold on tell him out. This is after I

489
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 4: had already dropped twenty. I already dropped twenty on t

490
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 4: back ahead. That's why you pushed me out of bable.

491
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 4: I had him frustrated. I tell you, NBA players only

492
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 4: knew how to play in instruction environment. You know, running

493
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 4: plays and all that. When it come to getting it

494
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 4: off the muscle, and you got somebody that's athletic, skined

495
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 4: with latter moving and quickness like me. You don't know

496
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 4: what to dude. That's why I say you can't beat me.

497
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 4: Brouh what you talk about, I don't care, but I

498
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 4: don't care about nobody calling you ice. So nothing ain't

499
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 4: gonna be nothing with one on one, it's just me

500
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: and you.

501
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: You you you ain't built like this. You ain't built

502
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: like this. Say it with your chiers got him? Yeah,

503
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: you got my voice cracking. That's how you know I'm serious. Man,

504
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm a competitor. Man, I don't care what it is.

505
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Hey, when I face you up like.

506
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 4: This, now hits you with that jab left right, and

507
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 4: then I come back and I.

508
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: Hes he I ain't going. I ain't going.

509
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: Hey, man, stop playing many but let's hey, let's let's

510
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 4: get back to the playoffs. Because that like I'm I apologize.

511
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 4: I ain't mean to get off like he kind of

512
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 4: triggered me real quick. Hey, like I'm not him, you

513
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 4: feel me? Stop playing boy. I'm from boy, I'm from

514
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 4: Liberty City.

515
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: Boy.

516
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 4: We do everything you and me it on my swimming,

517
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: swimming track, basketball, football, ball, It don't matter shooting pool, yeah, yeah, whatever,

518
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: we it's who and whatever against.

519
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: Whoever man you got here.

520
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: Look, look, let's get back to the playoffs, right right

521
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. I wanna give you out of my

522
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 2: assessment on this. For some reason, carl Anton Towns, he looked,

523
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 2: he looked a little slow at the break man, like

524
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: he don't got no energy.

525
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, he ain't giving them what they need.

526
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: You know, they bench ain't gonna give them that because

527
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: because Tippleo ain't gonna play him enough.

528
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: No, you need cat, cat gotta have.

529
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: He gotta be anyone from about twenty twenty five a

530
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 2: night man, uh eleven shot attempts that ain't gonna get

531
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: it for the next to be no hands not putting

532
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: against these dogs. And uh uh Detroit, I told you

533
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: old Joe, he said, uh uh, who I like in

534
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs this year, and I told you gay cut

535
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 2: he got it.

536
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: He'd told the package. He showed that dyke.

537
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: He's very poison patient on offense, creating for himself. He

538
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: didn't I have a lot of to night, they made

539
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: him score. He scored the ball. Uh, he had thirty,

540
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: he had twelve rebounds. He was huge for them. They

541
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: had that look. They would have won game one as

542
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: well as game two, but they had that low in

543
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: game one, that twenty one oh run the Knicks made

544
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: yep houst the pitsiness the game. Now they had another

545
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: load to night about four to four and a half

546
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: minutes where they couldn't score, and then they end up,

547
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: you know, end up closing out the game. But de

548
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: truck for real. They let y'all know they for real.

549
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: Now what I don't expect. I don't expect Tim Hardaway

550
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: to go oh for eight no more. I think he's

551
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 2: gonna play great at home and they gonna shoot the

552
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: ball well, and they gonna be the others who's gonna

553
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: help them?

554
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: You know, probably advanced in this in this series, especially

555
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 1: at home. Anyway.

556
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: Well, I don't I don't get tills campaign gave you

557
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: fourteen big points. He gave you eleven and the fourth

558
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: or nine in that nine oer run and you play

559
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 2: in four minutes.

560
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: What's that about?

561
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: It needs to be reversed. Mckal bridges need eleven shots,

562
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: Cat needs eighteen. When that's on, Cat, Cat needs to

563
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: demand the ball and become more aggressive once he gets

564
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: the ball. But you know Cat has that propensity to

565
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: sometimes drift through the game.

566
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: Bro, did you forget your sell him foot tall? Did

567
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: you forget that you were the number one overall pick

568
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: in the draft?

569
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: You? Did you forget that you are an All star?

570
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: Many times? Sometimes I think can't forget just how good

571
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: he can be?

572
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: Cat? Do you do you realize that you once scored

573
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: sixteen a game?

574
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: Cat? You special? But sometimes I think he forgets. Man,

575
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: I'm Cat, I'm him bad. Look here, all I know

576
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: is fine and father basketball player was my mentality. I'm

577
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: self foot tall. I'm putting out, Hey, I'm shocked. I'm

578
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: putting Shaq never forgot he was big, Yack always played big,

579
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: Shaq never played small. That's what I like about Shaq.

580
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: He like have won three twenty five. Damn, I'm gonna

581
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: play film one three five. But the child shop.

582
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: That that's a that's that's that's an IT factor that

583
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: comes from within that a lot of people. Hey, you

584
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 4: talk about the young bull from the Lakers, right, how

585
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 4: tall you say he is? Oh you talk about Jackson?

586
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 4: A's no, not the other one. You you don't like

587
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 4: Alex Lynn?

588
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

589
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: Man man, ye see that that's you that that uh

590
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: that in fact of that mentality I'm not I don't

591
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: want to say mama mentality, but just that that mean

592
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 4: spirit when it comes to being out there and understand,

593
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 4: I'm seven feet tall, I'm fin a dog. Whoever you

594
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: put in front of you, you're gonna get you finna

595
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 4: get this work.

596
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Does Cat have that it factor?

597
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: Think about the mentality and the way John Moran plays

598
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: or the way Eddie Anthony Edwards plays. Imagine if Cat

599
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: had that mentality or that kind of dog any.

600
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: What you think he would be?

601
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: Cult but Cat? But you know what Cat problem? Mill Jordan,

602
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you go. Cat problem.

603
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Cat want to be the best shooting big man. Cat

604
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: don't like the bangs. I already said it.

605
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: And that's what got to be in trouble last year

606
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference finals. He was selling too much.

607
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: He was selling for the three. He was selling for

608
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: the jumper, and they ain't got nobody that can deal

609
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: with Cat. When Cat want to play and becomes aggressive

610
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: and put his back to the basket. I get it,

611
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: you can shoot, but at some point sometimes the game

612
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: doesn't doesn't call for that. You need to dictate to eight.

613
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go down the block, give it to me,

614
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: give it to bad Man.

615
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: Let me have that.

616
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Joe. But you got to give the big

617
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: fellow for Detroit some credit. Duran too, because he playing man.

618
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: He he's a monster down there oho, you know. So

619
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: Cat definitely ain't muscling him, so it's almost like he

620
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: kind of taking him out out the game to some degree.

621
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm like, oh, man, I don't want him

622
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: selling for jumpers. I want him down there in the

623
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: paint causing having making them dudes double teams so we

624
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: can create these yes kids and then getting wide open shots.

625
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: I do think he's just kind of floating around three

626
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: point line too much. And yeah, the next they gotta

627
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: have at least two guys explode, you know, and that

628
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: and then starting five in order for them to win,

629
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: because like I said, they barely play any guy coming

630
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: off the bench.

631
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey Joe, Hey Joe, I mean, listen, I'm gonna

632
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: ask this real quick. Do you think because Kat knows

633
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: he can't do nothing with young bull down there in

634
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: the paint, that he's gonna settle for mid range and

635
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: being out there by the three instead of going down

636
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: and banging because you know you ain't finna post him

637
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: up and you know you're not gonna back him down.

638
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: Nah.

639
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: I think you know he's probably gonna look at this footage.

640
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: You know, he looked at the he gonna look at

641
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: the tables when I'm saying, oh Joe, he's gonna be

642
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: okay cool. You know, hopefully somebody on their coaches staff looks,

643
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: big fellow, we gotta have you do down there on

644
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: that paint.

645
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no matter what, being big, being a huge presence.

646
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: Remember when we throw you can boll it it's a

647
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: bucket foul, or you kick it out spray out to

648
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: three if somebody got a wide open shot. But right

649
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: now what he's giving, Yeah, this this is gonna be

650
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: a long series for them. Man. This is a young,

651
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: scary Detroit team who've you know, had to learn learn

652
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: by experience, you know, throughout the playoffs, like Duran and

653
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham, they had never been in the postseason, so

654
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: they learned from Game one, came back in Game two

655
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: duplicated pretty much except ain't performance but close the deal

656
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: at the end and uh, hey man Detroit basketball. That

657
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: is fine and his baby there. I look at it

658
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: like this, Joe. I'm a veteran player. I'm a pro bowler.

659
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm an all pro. Ain't no young lad doing nothing

660
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: thing with me. I know too much. I understand the moment, right,

661
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna see me not. They better double. Yeah,

662
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: they better come double, right because if you don't, I'm

663
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: gonna punish it. Hey, cat has to have But look,

664
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: Cat is who he at this point in time. Joe

665
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: Caddy is who he is. I like Cat a lot,

666
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: but Cat needs to be more aggressive. Yeah we know

667
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: Cat can shoot the three. We know that he wanted to.

668
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: I saim put him with a three point contest.

669
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: He did it. Yeah, yeah, I.

670
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: Think, Hey, look, he he just gotta be. He just

671
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: gott assert hisself a little more, especially in the Star.

672
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: You know. Look, I love big body Bronson.

673
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: It just seemed like when he get into the paint,

674
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: he turned into a straight five man, he go to pivoting.

675
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah all, let bro bro you six foot tall?

676
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: How the hell you talking about? You shoulder? Somebody chance

677
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: to get separation, listen and shoot have turned around.

678
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: They made it work. MoU get Stroder credit. He didn't

679
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: just play great offensively. I thought defensively he was a

680
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: pass He was a pass on Brunston. And he made

681
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: him work, picked him up full court, made him go

682
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: into that magic Johnson back down. It's just Shroder just

683
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: ain't got enough bricks in his back pocket to stop

684
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: him once again, No no, no, no, Well and Sue

685
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: Thompson when he got in fil trouble. He got in

686
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: foul trouble. Yeah, And so that was just because he's

687
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: a long, rangy guy that you know. But he you know,

688
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: he could you know, he could play out. He can

689
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: contest if he shoots the step back, I can contest it.

690
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm long and range enough.

691
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: I don't have to worry about you beating me around

692
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: the edge, none of these other guys. Because that's that

693
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: because he gonna book, like you said, he'll bully a

694
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: shooter and shooters if not a bad defender.

695
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: But he just light in the back pocket.

696
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know Tim harderwa j you the same thing,

697
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: and so what's what's uh? And s Thompson? What's Thompson

698
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: got in trouble? You saw you saw you saw Brunston

699
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: get super aggressive. Yeah he did, he super aggressed.

700
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: Turn it up. He turned it up. Thompson is bad.

701
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: He's a tough match up for brusting because he's so much,

702
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: He's so long and athletic. All he gotta do is

703
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: state discipline. He's playing great defense. The one thing I

704
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: love about Thompson is he knows his role.

705
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: Man. He ain't out there to do nothing.

706
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: He ain't come down there to jacking up, no wild

707
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: shot because I'm out here to hustle, defense, calls, have it,

708
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: get steals, be on the break like he's playing his

709
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: job to the teeth. Keep your head up, young fellow.

710
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: He going hard out there. Yeah, and that's what and

711
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: that's what you look. But the thing is you gotta

712
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: play smart because Brunson iskg Now he'll pump fake you

713
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: and when you jump, he'll jump into you. Yeah, So

714
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: you you got to be on your best behavior when

715
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: you guard him. A guy like Russ, I don't know

716
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: what it is, Joe, What is about them left handed guys.

717
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: That's always crafty, man, you see. Manu was like that.

718
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeaha Barcelona's was like that.

719
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: All these left handed guys they be crafty as hey.

720
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: It seemed like they got an advantage from the jup,

721
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: you know, because you know, you're just not really used

722
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: to playing against lefty, so you gotta know the own

723
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: game plan when you play against a lefty, you know

724
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: what I mean. And it just seemed like they always

725
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: got an advantage. I don't know, but it's been some

726
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: crafty lefties obviously, James Harden and big body Brunton. Man, Hey, listen, Ojo, Hey, Hey,

727
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: you got that man, It's it's a long game, bron

728
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: I know you're a boxing you like the box and

729
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: all that, right, Yeah, you know I got a nice

730
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: little foot footwork.

731
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a fight with him, but when the game over,

732
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna be hurting you, hear me. Yeah? Yeah, definitely definitely.

733
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh Lord, have mercy.

734
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: Man.

735
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: Nico Harrison held another press conference today and see he

736
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: did it, and he did it again.

737
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: I didn't know Luca was important to the fan base.

738
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: I didn't quite know to what level. Joe, what do

739
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: you think would have happened if the Lakers would have

740
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: traded Kobe, and Kobe didn't ask to be traded. Cleveland

741
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: trades Lebron and Lebron doesn't ask to be traded. Do

742
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: you What do you mean you didn't know?

743
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Did you?

744
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: When you go to that and you see all those

745
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: seventy sevens, who do you think that Who do you

746
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: think that's from that one for Tyron Smith?

747
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: That one from Luca? I mean, what the hell are

748
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: you talking about?

749
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: You talk about that guy that was a five time

750
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: first team All the NBA selection, an All Star, Rookie

751
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: of the Year, he was an MVP candidate every year.

752
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: What do you mean you didn't know what he meant

753
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: to that base?

754
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: He was hood grown like a Kobe, like a Lebron boom.

755
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: And from what if Presty were to trade said you

756
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: know what we're gonna trade.

757
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: What do you think, Okay gonna do a fool? Exactly? Bro?

758
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: Come on, Hold on, you don't think you don't think

759
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 4: Nego doing his own purpose or somebody's having him do

760
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: this on purpose. The fact that all this is back

761
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 4: to back, I mean, are they trying to distract us

762
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: for something else?

763
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: No? You know, good and goddamn well, what he meant

764
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: to the team.

765
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: That's it's your job to actually know the importance of

766
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: certain players, especially players of that god damn callible. So

767
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: come out and saying something this asinine and saying something

768
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 4: is Asinine's what you said last week, and you're probably

769
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: gonna do the same thing. Then this is It's a

770
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 4: constant pattern of it going on, over and over and over. Obviously,

771
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 4: we know you got we know you're being nailed to

772
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: the cross for the decision of the owners. That's your job.

773
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: You got to take that bullet. Okay, we get it,

774
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 4: But coming out saying things like this, now, come on now,

775
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: but see like, come on, come on now, check this out.

776
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: Patrick Dumont is reportedly frustrated with Niko Haser for not

777
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: warning him how the fan base would react to Luca trade.

778
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: Luca is the biggest thing in Dallas.

779
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

780
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: So you see what happens when you buy something and

781
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: you don't know what you have. You see, he bought

782
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 2: a team. This is his mom my mother in law

783
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: purchased the team and she ain't They have no idea

784
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: what they have about y other. It's like I buy

785
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: a store, but I don't know what in the store.

786
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: So what am I selling? And I say, you know what,

787
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna discontinue my number one selling item. Why don't

788
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: you tell me that was my number one selling item?

789
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: You bought the damn store. You should have thrown. However,

790
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: those team sources consistently expressed belief that Dumont no longer

791
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: sees Harrison as a figure with irreproachable basketball expertise. Most notably,

792
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: team and league sources say Dumont had had frustration with

793
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: Harrison not warning him, or perhaps even more damningly, being

794
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: unaware of the fandom outraged following the trade. Those same

795
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: sources say its same influence over Duma's decision to make

796
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: Harrison uppear last week closed media event, which Harrison did

797
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 2: not want to do. You see what I saying the owner,

798
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: You see what I said on Joe Awner makes the decision.

799
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: Why didn't you tell me? Why didn't you tell me

800
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: the fans was gonna be upset about me trading the

801
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: most popular player?

802
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: Who?

803
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: Why did you tell me that I got rid of

804
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: the best player in Dallas Maverick history. I know Dirk

805
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: Daviski won a championship, but Mark Cuba said, Dirk.

806
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: Can't see, can't see Luca. You trained it. You're supposed

807
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: to know that.

808
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: Normally, when you buy business, you're supposed to know how

809
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: to run it.

810
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: Right.

811
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, Right, Joe, yeah, Joe, what do you think

812
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: about this? What what's going on? Luca is a global icon. Hey,

813
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: Nico is a good guy, bro, But I know he

814
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: got to you know, he got to take the fall

815
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: on this one. You know, he made that decision. Look,

816
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: the owners, they ain't gonna take the fall. They're gonna

817
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 2: blame it on Niko.

818
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I got somebody to do that, take

819
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: the fall.

820
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: But he's he's got up there publicly and took the

821
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: and took the fall himself, you know, saying that. You

822
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: know he's the one. He didn't discuss it with the

823
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: coaches and things of that sort. But man, you gotta

824
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: know how much local means of Dallas. Man, everybody knows.

825
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 2: I come on, man, this this is a global icon.

826
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: This ain't just you know what I mean? Yes, yes, hey,

827
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: you let all craft so you know what I think

828
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: we're gonna trade.

829
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Yes, well I didn't know Chicago. I didn't know.

830
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: I didn't know Chicago was that rabbit of it. I

831
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: didn't know they loved the man that much. Yeah, really, Luka,

832
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: donc he just legend?

833
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: So you coulda trade the guy that just led you

834
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals last year? Yeah, a guy that

835
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: was twenty five at the time you traded it, and

836
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: you had no idea that the fans would be upset?

837
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: Oh yo, what do you think would happen if the

838
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: Ravens traded off Mr Jackson or Kansas City traded Patrick

839
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: Mahomes And the GM said well a and the ownership

840
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: said a GM like.

841
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know. I didn't know Kansas City cared

842
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 4: about this man. It's kind of common sense, too, right,

843
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: they should have known. If you're the owners most of

844
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 4: the time, Let's say you're not paying attending to the team.

845
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 4: Let's say you don't understand the importance of said player

846
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 4: in Lucadancis.

847
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: But I know you understand importance of money.

848
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 4: You understand the importance of your bottom line and what

849
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: matters at the end of the day. And I know

850
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 4: you understand that number seventy seven is the driving force

851
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 4: of revenue coming through.

852
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: I bet you understand that.

853
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: So why how would you not know, Let's say, if

854
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: you didn't understand basketball, just say you was only about

855
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: business and making money.

856
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you do not have

857
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: to get rid of him.

858
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: Now you've got Nico Collins looking like a fool called

859
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: on the goddamn sword.

860
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, to the point, I think they forced

861
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: him to do it because.

862
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 4: He's saying such ridiculous stuff about them, not knowing that

863
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 4: they're using this as the ploy to be able to

864
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 4: fire him on the back end.

865
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, and he take the whole brunt of the issue. Man, Listen,

866
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Nico in this situation because you

867
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: gotta know better than that man. He's you know, I understand.

868
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe they know something that we don't know. Joe,

869
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: they around him every day, you know, they come to

870
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: work every day. Maybe they ain't like some of his

871
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: habits that he had, and they ain't thinking thinking now sis,

872
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: they was thinking long term, like right this summer coming up. Man,

873
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: we got to come off about three some three to

874
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: be exact, three four to keep Joe talked to me, Joe,

875
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 2: what's that bad? What's that bad?

876
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe?

877
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 4: That Luke can be doing what we don't want to

878
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: invest thirty three hundred and forty five million and something

879
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 4: like that where you understand the product you're getting long

880
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: term on the court.

881
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: What's that bad? Joe?

882
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 4: Come on now, we ain't talking about no, no, no,

883
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: not going to jail, you know, not not not not

884
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 4: having a word about anything concerning the night life for

885
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 4: Luca Hookah.

886
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: Really beer is beer.

887
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 2: It's also been reported that the Nuggets are gonna offer

888
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: Nakola Jokic three years, two hundred and seventeen million.

889
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: So he's not gonna take the He's not gonna take

890
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: the man.

891
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: You know, Yokis is gonna take that three years, two

892
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen million from the Nuther And that's the

893
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: max he can get, yes, oh yeah, yeah, seventy million

894
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: a year. So they was like, we give Luca at

895
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: his money. It was gonna be five years, three forty five.

896
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: So when his contract up, Luca's gonna be thirty one.

897
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 2: He gonna be in line to get four. You're gonna

898
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: get another five year, four fifty, maybe even five hundred

899
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: at that point in time because this new contract, this

900
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: new Amazon, ESPN and I think who else NBC played seventy.

901
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Seven billion will it be. But here's the thing.

902
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: If I if I'm Nico Harrison, I tell my owner

903
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: our trading, but we're gonna get a tremendous backlatch because

904
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 2: Luka is is our best player, He's our most important player,

905
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: he's our most beloved player. I said, I'll do whatever

906
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: you asked me to do. I'll do whatever you tell

907
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: me to do. But I just want you to know

908
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: what comes along with trading it. Now, Hey, you might

909
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: the habit is that people keep saying about he likes whokh,

910
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: he's drinking whatever the case may be. I will trade

911
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: it at your requests, at your request, but I just

912
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: want you to understand this is going to be met

913
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: with huge opposition by the fan base. So I want

914
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: you to think about it for a day or two

915
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: before I make any calls, because this is not going

916
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: to go over well. He comes back, trade Luca. I'm

917
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: not giving him three forty five blah blah blah. We're

918
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: not making enough money to are you sure? Once he said, ay,

919
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: at a certain point in time, when a when the

920
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 2: commander give you that kill switch, you gotta go go

921
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: follow through with it, don't jo Joe?

922
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: You know that once they say, was it a have

923
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: the targeted sight right and then back?

924
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: And that's why that's why I say, uh, the Mavericks

925
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: got cheated, man, because they weren't thinking Kyrie was gonna

926
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: be hurt at this point. They won't know by being

927
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: no playing team, you know, it would be a top

928
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: five to six seed like they was gonna they was

929
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: gonna get some teams some problems and without Kyrie, who

930
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: was probably not probably, but it's a major piece to

931
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: what we're trying to do because we lacked what rent

932
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: protection or or the inside presence.

933
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: But you got Lively, you got Gafford, you got Powell,

934
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: you those gots. Think about it.

935
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: You got all the way to the NBA Finals last

936
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: year and you didn't have Anthony Davis, right, You just

937
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: ran into a better team.

938
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: They were deeper than what you were.

939
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: You had Tatum, you had Brown, you had White, you

940
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: have Prazingers for a couple of games, and Horford play well.

941
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: You had Holiday, you had guys coming in in your

942
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: tribute to Creighton, Brincher, Sam Hauser.

943
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: You got that. That's where Celtics beat you. They're a

944
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: deep team.

945
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: Look at yesterday that game, Tatum, North, Brown, played well.

946
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: Derrick White was sensational. Crayton Pittrick is gonna probably be

947
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: six Man of a year. That's how you win a championship,

948
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: because when your big guns aren't fired.

949
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: It's the small artillery that gets it done. Yeah.

950
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to my boss. I'm gonna say I

951
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: will do what you asked me to do. But I

952
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: just want you to know. I don't think you understand.

953
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Sports is a way of life in Texas. They're the

954
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: We're not the cowboys now we're not. But just know

955
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: there's gonna be huge resentment if we follow through with this.

956
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: Are you okay with this?

957
00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: Sir? Okay? Hey? Yeah, Ron? What's going on? Hey? What's

958
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: up the GM for the Lakers? Rob lincern Hey, Rob?

959
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: What you doing? Man? I ain't doing nothing, Man ain't

960
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: just chilling. Hey what you think about?

961
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: Uh?

962
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: Would you be really trade me ain D for Luca?

963
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: I gotta play it off. Yeah, I don't know.

964
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: I don't know about that one now, cold now because

965
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: we don't want a championship with a D. I mean,

966
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: he's a guy to give you twenty four and ten,

967
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: twenty four and eleven go block shots.

968
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: He should have been Defensive Player of the Year. All

969
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: the while I'm like, he gone, I thought, Oh no,

970
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: are you sure? Are you sure? I ain't.

971
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: I want you to think about this. I want you

972
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: to think about I want the other end of the pole. Hell,

973
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to run this up the flagpole. I

974
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: gonna need to talk to Genie about this. We about Hey, Joe,

975
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: were about to get there, were about to get there.

976
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: Let me call you, hey, let me call you back, Genie.

977
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: I got me a fish? What you mean? What you mean, Rob?

978
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: Did you know Nico Harrison just called me and asked

979
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: me when we trade Ad for Luca plus plus a

980
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: player that's not named Leron Austin Reeves?

981
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

982
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: And that first round draft pick in twenty twenty eight?

983
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: I hope you told him Yeah. I was like, no,

984
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm pretending like I'm not interested. You know, Hey, hey, Nico,

985
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: So what's what?

986
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: What's up?

987
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: Are you serious? I already got I already got a drink,

988
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: I already got the trade drawing up a d ad

989
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: Matt chris By Christy first round draft pick. Listen, listen, Nico, na,

990
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about getting that post presence. So they can

991
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: create that mismatch with Kyrie and.

992
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: Ad in that pick up roll.

993
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: They had to be what they was thinking about because

994
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: they my turn, your turn with him and Luca. Yeah,

995
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: they got them to the finals. The Boston's just too

996
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: tough for Man had too much. Yeah, Hell, Boston's gonna

997
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: be too tough for Kyrie and Ad because they got

998
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: Presingers to throw at it.

999
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: They got Al Horford to throw at it. They got

1000
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: another big body.

1001
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: Not what you're gonna do with j T, What you're

1002
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 2: gonna do with JV, What you're gonna do with Derrick White,

1003
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do with Holiday, what you're gonna do

1004
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: with Pritchett, Howser. They got so many ways to attack you.

1005
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: You only got so much. It's not like it's not

1006
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: like the the Mavericks are breath the breath of talent.

1007
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: They're not.

1008
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: They got good role players. I mean, Gaffard is an Okay,

1009
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 2: okay's a great role player. Loudly, they do their job,

1010
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: but they don't have what the Celtics have. That's what

1011
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: makes the Celtics so tough. They got JB and j

1012
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: T can give you thirty forty in a given game.

1013
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: Okay they're off. Now you get Presingers or Derrick White,

1014
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: or you get Pritchett, or you get big Al Horford. Yes,

1015
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: so this doesn't make sense to me because it's still

1016
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: a two man team with not a whole lot of depth. Right.

1017
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they they they ain't gotta figure it out.

1018
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: Man.

1019
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: Well they ain't got a choice now. Yeah, they gotta

1020
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: figure out what they're gonna do.

1021
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: This smer Charles Barkler sends a message to Niko, says,

1022
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: I consider you my I see you, I consider you

1023
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: a friend of mine. Don't do no more press conferences.

1024
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: Don't even know what you're doing. I got sympathy love

1025
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: for you, but I have zero idea what you're trying

1026
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: to do. That's his owner sending him out there to

1027
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: fall on the sword in front of everybody. Everybody knows

1028
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: that Nico Harrison didn't initiate this trade. Everybody knows that

1029
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: a trade of this bagna true. That going to the owner,

1030
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that ain't that.

1031
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: Ain't no trade. A that ain't no a for some

1032
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: draft picks and some cash.

1033
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: That's your franchise, cornerstone, and you're trading him away before

1034
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: he turns twenty six that's the ownership, because the owners said, Nico,

1035
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: you ain't the one that's got to shell out three

1036
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five million guaranteed.

1037
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 1: In the state of Texas with no state income tax

1038
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: hold on. They think they think they slicked, though you

1039
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: don't think ownership think they slick.

1040
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 4: Not only have they sending a Nico out there to

1041
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: fall on the sword, they sitting in the out there

1042
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: saying ridiculous things. Well you see, so I really, I

1043
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 4: really think it's a ploy I think it's aployee honestly

1044
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: to fire him on the back end and to get

1045
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: the fans of Dallas off their head and really put

1046
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 4: the whole thing and on this on him by firing

1047
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: Nico laid on down the line.

1048
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing.

1049
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: The source the league to my most notably team in

1050
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: League sources say Dumont has had frustration with Harison not

1051
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: warning him or perhaps even more damningly, being unaware of

1052
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: the fandom's outraged following the trade. You see, ah, Niko

1053
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: Harrison is doing this that coin. What the what ownership

1054
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: saying he code knew it. Yeah, he's been in this

1055
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: position too long. Oh, Joe, he's been he's been around it.

1056
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: He's been at Nike. Yeah, he's been added too long

1057
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 2: for him.

1058
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: Not to know.

1059
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: So I've got to go out there and parrot what

1060
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: ownership is saying behind closed doors. That's why he keeps

1061
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: having Remember he had a press conference with no cameras

1062
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: and he said, defense win championships. I ain't trading, no Luca.

1063
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't ask the defensive player. I get better be

1064
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: Bill Russell, rested soul. He better be Bill Russell in

1065
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: his pride, or Kee Elijah wanted somebody like that. I'm

1066
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: not getting Come on, man, a twenty six year old

1067
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: averaging twenty eight and eight a game, Yeah, averaging thirty

1068
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: one in the postseason.

1069
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm not giving that up.

1070
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: And like I said, he had to send him out

1071
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: there on that mission, basically a suicide mission to take

1072
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: all that because anytime, what they say in the military,

1073
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, they have what they call a b on

1074
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: blast radius. Oh yeah, okay, if we dropped this here,

1075
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: what's the collateral damage? What's the blast radius? What is

1076
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: our time that we need to get up?

1077
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1078
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: Get up out of there, because you knew this this

1079
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: fall out is gonna be like Chernobyl and when that

1080
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: ractor went off in Russia and it destroyed everything for

1081
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: a long, long period of time.

1082
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what this is. They ain't getting over this

1083
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: anytime soon. They a getting over this.

1084
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, duck Boston eighty years to get over well,

1085
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: eighty years to get over that when they traded Babe Ruth.

1086
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: Let's see, they ain't getting over this anytime soon. They said,

1087
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: it ain't another Luca walking through that door.

1088
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 4: No, and I think he got about another ten, maybe

1089
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: twelve years to play, so they gonna feel the wrath.

1090
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: Of this trade for a very long time as long

1091
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: as he is a Laker. Hey, look, J J.

1092
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: Reddick said today was the best practice we've had in

1093
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: months as LA prepared for Game two. He admitted that

1094
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: that had the Lakers approached the off days leading up

1095
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: to the playoffs with the same vigor, then maybe we

1096
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't have appeared as flat as we did on Saturday's

1097
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: twenty two point loss. We probably could have done a

1098
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: few a few more scrimmages. Joe, do the Lakers rebound

1099
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: and tied up at one one? Go to Minnesota? Or

1100
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: does Minnesota take a command thing t o lead h

1101
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: Sorry to tell you, brother, but oh it's over. I

1102
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: ain't saying it's over, man. I don't know, Joe, but

1103
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: my gut feeling, yeah, Aya take a proboty that gut

1104
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: on you. You feel better?

1105
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, I got the timber.

1106
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: World ons trying to be greedy Game two, knowing what's

1107
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: at State, knowing that they can, you know, uh uh

1108
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: come out and just put put their will to the

1109
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: test and try and get this dub and go back

1110
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: to Minnesota. Man, Hopefully they don't come back to LA now.

1111
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: I know, you know, are going to La to come out,

1112
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: and you know they're gonna need that third score. We

1113
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: need Austin Reeves to you know, give them a spark, man,

1114
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: they need some. I think ad Man is playing pretty

1115
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: good defense on him, fighting over kicks like I think

1116
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: a man that are doing them both fans. I know

1117
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: he didn't he didn't explode offensively, but defensively he's been great.

1118
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: And obviously the guys around him the others, Like we

1119
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: always say, if those guys chip in mcdame's and Reid

1120
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: and they play the way they playing now, I don't

1121
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: know if they're gonna shoot like that in game one,

1122
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 2: But I don't know if a.

1123
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: Man that's the thing.

1124
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: You believe they're gonna make nineteen. You believe they're gonna

1125
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: make nine twenty twenty plus threes. They may not, but

1126
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: I don't think that man gonna havend no seventeen points neither.

1127
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: That's okay.

1128
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 2: I'll give ad as long as they don't make forty

1129
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: three threes, because he can beat us with forty. It's

1130
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: the twenty three threes that's gonna crush it.

1131
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1132
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: Hey, look, the Laker's gonna have to step up man

1133
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: and uh protect protect home. You know you you're gonna

1134
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: need Braun to come out and be aggressive. So what

1135
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: if Luca catch how you need to catch high with him?

1136
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: But you know the thing, oh Joe, You know the

1137
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: thing is player get hot. What you do? You feeding

1138
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: the ball, You get out of the way until he

1139
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: missed a couple, and then you try to get in

1140
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: the river. But intil the meantime because where Luca catch fire?

1141
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: He catched fire? Yeah, yeah, I mean he liable to

1142
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: go for twenty and a quarter like that. It's fun

1143
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 2: to walk and you don't want to you don't want

1144
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: to get in his way. Go ahead, Joe, I said, yeah,

1145
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: it's fun to watch when he gets it, when he

1146
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: gets going. But you know, Broun has a tendency to

1147
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: do that. You know, if even if Ar gets off

1148
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: to a great start, he'll make sure Ar get his

1149
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: touches in that first quarter. And uh, he got to

1150
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: find a way to get other others going and get

1151
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: himself going in order for them to be effective in

1152
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: this series. Look, the Temple Hoards are young, man, they

1153
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: gonna be flying around McDade.

1154
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's and.

1155
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: Man like those guys gonna fly around, play hard cause

1156
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 2: having the vintdo's.

1157
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: I like the make up of their team.

1158
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: Man, they're ready for the postseason, like I said, are

1159
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: and man, he he done took some guys out.

1160
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: Man, he didn't took a few. He feeling good about himself.

1161
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: You know he won't he want that Luca and U

1162
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: Lebron peeled on the wall like he got that Ky,

1163
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: like he got that NICOLEA Yoki just pel Yeah, that'd

1164
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: be big.

1165
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: But I think the thing is, we get this game,

1166
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers get this game here. What is the next game?

1167
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: He said? You think you know I've said the Lakers

1168
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: get this game here.

1169
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna have two three days off because you gotta

1170
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: travel with the next game Thursday or Friday. They gotta

1171
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 2: win in game two. You gotta think about that, Joe.

1172
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: We had two days off. Win that one, got two

1173
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: more days off. Huh, people, hold on.

1174
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: You skipping. You gotta win game two first. Oh, you

1175
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: gotta win game too first. You show what you show

1176
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: is that here?

1177
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 4: I'm just asking because hold on listen in order for

1178
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 4: to win game too. Now, I'm not listen.

1179
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm listening.

1180
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 4: I ain't the bookie. I don't bet and I don't gamble.

1181
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 4: But Lebron will have to come out and be Oh,

1182
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 4: you know what, I need to get right first. I

1183
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 4: need to get right first. My approach to this game.

1184
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 4: My approach to game too can't be like the last one.

1185
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 4: I can't sit around and facilitate. I got to have

1186
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 4: that killer mentality. He has that a little bit, but

1187
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: he has to come out this game and have it early.

1188
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 4: I gotta set the tone. He gotta set the intensity.

1189
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 4: I expect him to have it. Okay, okay, I'm just

1190
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 4: making show now because I would love. I would I

1191
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: would love I would love to see legas are fine,

1192
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 4: but what I see game.

1193
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: It ain't looking good.

1194
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: But JJ we probably could have done a few more scrimmages.

1195
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: That's on you. You the coach.

1196
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: You said down tender, and you set the practice schedule,

1197
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: rhythm and timing that exactly. And it's the playoffs. I mean,

1198
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: even if I don't tell you, Joe, you know what

1199
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: it is. You know, the intensity turns up.

1200
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: Everybody's everybody on this roster with the exceptional connect has

1201
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: been in the playoffs. Okay, the young guys, they don't owe,

1202
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: but Lebron, Luca, ar Phinney, Smith, Vanderbilt, Jackson, Ave, all

1203
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: those guys have been in the playoffs.

1204
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: They know, Gave Vinson, they know what's at stake.

1205
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: So it's your job to pull the young guys along

1206
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: and let them know what's at state the intensity. You're

1207
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: not gonna get those Tiki tag file calls like you

1208
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 2: would in the regular season. They're gonna let you play,

1209
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: so be prepared. The twenty twenty five NBA Awards finalists

1210
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: worldnounced MVP, Nicola Jokic, Shae Gilgos, Alexander Giannis, Antetokumpo, Defensive

1211
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, Dyson Daniels, Draymond Green, Evan Mobley,

1212
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: Rookie of the years, Stefan Castle, Zacharyy Raschier, Jalen Wells,

1213
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: the sixth Man of the Year, Malik Beezey Beasley, Tad

1214
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: Jerome and Peyton Pritchett. All Right, Joe, who you got MVP?

1215
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 1: I got Shae. I got Shaye go ahead. Defensive Player

1216
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: of the Year and running off for again defensive players of.

1217
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels, Hawks, Draymond Green Warriors, Evan Mobley Cavaliers. I

1218
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: got Dyson Daniels, Okay, Rookie of the Year Castle, Uh San,

1219
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: Antonio Rashier Atlanta, Jalen Wells, I think he plays at Memphis.

1220
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: I got I got Castle, Castle, Ben and he's pretty

1221
00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: consistent this year.

1222
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: Love, I agree even player sixth Man of the Year,

1223
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 2: Blik Beasley, UH Detroit Tied, Jerome Cavaliers, Peyton Pritchard Celtics.

1224
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm going Peyton Pritcher. I'm going to pay it.

1225
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: I can see that it's been consistent, and you know,

1226
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: when it when it's his time to shine or when

1227
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: this moment you know comes, he always shows up.

1228
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: So I'm going to Payton Pritcher.

1229
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: Who you like?

1230
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: O yoemm gi gi give him my categories of my

1231
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 4: name h VP, Nicola Jokic oh l s yeah, okay,

1232
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 4: you can stop there s c A S y A.

1233
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: That's men b P. It's been the MVP for a

1234
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: long time. But go ahead.

1235
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, you got Daniels, Draymond Green

1236
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: or Evan Mobley, Oh damn. Rookie of the Year Castle Rascher,

1237
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: Jalen Wells Castle, you Beasley tied your own, Peyton Pritcher,

1238
00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: Oh Pritchar.

1239
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: Most improved Player Joe K. Cunningham. He beats Dyson Daniels.

1240
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: M that's doing. I'm going I think they want how

1241
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: many games they want? Sixteen last year?

1242
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you're the number one overall pick. You should

1243
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: be ineligible before this reward. It should go to us.

1244
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: It should go to zuba he had he had the

1245
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: high score. Haveage No, I think, I think I think

1246
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: Zubo's average double double career hiding points everybouy Okay. Coach

1247
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: of the Year, you got Kenny Atkinson, JB. Bickerstaff. I

1248
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: make ka, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna make You're gonna

1249
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: They're gonna go Atkinson. But I think to beat the

1250
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: sixth seed after winning, after winning like fifties sixt game

1251
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, with the clutch player, Nicola Jokic, Jaylen Brunson,

1252
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: ad Man, You said clutch player, yep, Jaylen Brunson. Who else, Yo,

1253
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: kid a man, Damn, that's a good one. M Big

1254
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: Body Brunton boy, Big Body Brunton man. Hey, listen, I'm

1255
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: not gonna lie y'all. He skipped me down the streets

1256
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: when they playing Detroit or just any game. You know

1257
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: what I mean. Because he gonna make a play. He

1258
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: gonna either get filed or he gonna score. I'm going,

1259
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: big body Brunton man. I like that they call that

1260
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: time out and then you're raning down the baseline. He

1261
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: went and got that three pointer. Said that was a

1262
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: good call. Tis out of a time out? Grade? Are

1263
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: they any surprises? Are there anybody that you think should

1264
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: have been on that got left off? Nah?

1265
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. Who you got your clutch player? Yo,

1266
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: Kitch Bronson and Edwards? Yeah, I'm going. I'm going with

1267
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: Jedden every time.

1268
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 4: And I think Jalen has been in more clutch situations

1269
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 4: the show. Why he's clutched now, I'm not saying, man,

1270
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 4: isn't I'm not saying joker, isn't. I'm just saying he's

1271
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 4: been in more situations to be able to display that clutch.

1272
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: Geen Coach of the Year got Kenny Atkinson, JB. Bickerstaff,

1273
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: I make.

1274
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: I made you talking about the boy was shortry last year?

1275
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: Want nothing to watch? No disrespect. Hey that boy Jalen

1276
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: Green nice.

1277
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: Though I couldn't tell he be he hadn't played well

1278
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: the last couple of games on Joel, he had been bad.

1279
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: Hey, right, the lost game one to on Joe.

1280
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard man playing against he got that

1281
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: championship pedigree over there.

1282
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: Hey them boy balling man.

1283
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: And that's what and that's what really concerned me about

1284
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: the Rockets, Joe, is that they don't have a ball

1285
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: to guy that can give the ball to They got

1286
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: they got a collective group of guys. But if you

1287
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: think about it, everybody for the most part, got a

1288
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: guy you can hand the ball to it.

1289
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: He go get your bucket.

1290
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the only team don't even if you look

1291
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: at the you look at the Thunder they got shape.

1292
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: If you look at Memphis, they got job. The Lakers

1293
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: got two or three guys. You look at everybody that's

1294
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: in the West, they got a guy Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler. Everybody,

1295
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: every team has a guy you can handle the ball

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01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 2: and even gonna get your bucket and this Rockets don't

1297
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 2: have that. This is what the playoffs about too. Like

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01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: I tell you, we know you plays, we know what

1299
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: you're running. Were switching everything and now you gotta get

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01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: a bucket.

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01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: And you're right.

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Speaker 2: The Rockets hadn't had anybody who can efficiently, you know,

1303
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: be reliable to wear down the streets. We're like, okay,

1304
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: we can get a bucket on a fire. We give

1305
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: him the ball, and you know, you know what the

1306
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: Warriors got Steph. Yeah, well, let's we got amazing.

1307
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: On in his role. Them other guys, Uh, the Moodies,

1308
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: those other guys playing well too.

1309
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 2: They their garden. They're defending and uh they're playing. They're

1310
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: playing like you know, this is it man. They know

1311
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: Game one is always like the best game to get easy.

1312
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: Wanted to steal. You need a statement earlier made a

1313
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: statement early, Yeah, Joe, many think trade was ice.

1314
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: Trade was snubbed to Cloach, called clutch player, he buried

1315
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: three game win He shots the most by any player

1316
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: in the NBA this season. The final ten second sports

1317
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: quarter overtime, he owned it, plus thirty four in clutch

1318
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: games this season.

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01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: You're right, I forgot about ice trade. He does.

1320
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, everybody else team in the playoffs,

1321
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: I know that's the only thing outside of that.

1322
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: Look hold up, Oh, we were fighting the Hawks. We

1323
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: were fighting earlier in the year.

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01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: We get Jalen Jalen Jaylen Johnson go down in January

1325
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: and it just kind of took our hopes away. He

1326
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: was there, he was he was missed to doing mister everything. Yeah,

1327
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: walking double double and at the time I think we

1328
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: were in the playoffs before he got hurt and were

1329
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: playing good basketball. So I'm looking for my Hawks man,

1330
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: to get healthy. You know, we got a lot of

1331
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: young guys who gained a lot who gained some great experience,

1332
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: you know, playing in that playing game and understanding the

1333
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: magnitude of what playoffs basketball is like. Man, we just

1334
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: got to stay healthy, come back next year and uh

1335
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: have have have a rememorable season.

1336
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: But hopefully we can keep tray around.

1337
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: Man.

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01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: I've been here in a lot of rumors, but I

1339
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: want to be out around. Hey, Joe, I got a

1340
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: question for you, Joe.

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01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 4: Speaking of that playing game, Yeah, y'all played again in

1342
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 4: some of those players getting some playoff experience.

1343
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: Who y'all lost to again? Man?

1344
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 4: We lost to the heat OCHI okay, okay, I just

1345
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 4: want to say, I want to make sure you understood

1346
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 4: and remember that's all.

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1348
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: We Oho, we got too. We got two of our

1349
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: starters out big Uh what's my big center name? Uh?

1350
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: We got Jason Oh, Clint Compella was compell ha been out,

1351
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: he been out. Clint's been out for a minute. So

1352
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: I'll show y'all. Hey, y'all had y'all.

1353
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: Wait, man, y'all had y'all farther, you know, congrat but.

1354
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: Wait, wait, hold on now now man you now, man

1355
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 4: you Jimmy Butler were gone right yeah, m so so

1356
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 4: collectively as a team, I'm not we don't have a

1357
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 4: guy you can actually go to.

1358
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: We have Bam, we got I'm talking about that guy.

1359
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that guy.

1360
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: So you're putting Ty the hero in the same conversations

1361
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 4: with your ant man's and your and your your Steph

1362
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 4: Curry's okay, we got.

1363
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: To go to him. Yeah, you guy? Now? Oh okay, okay,

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01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. Is that what we're doing?

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01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that but that's your guy. No, I'm not

1366
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 4: saying he equivalent to those guys, but that's he's got me. Okay,

1367
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 4: that's that's why I understand that. But Jimmy Butler was

1368
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 4: that guy before you get you know what I'm saying.

1369
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 4: So you lose the guy and then someone else just

1370
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 4: just become the guy, because if you that guy, you

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01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 4: that guy regards who's around you, the volume