Speaker 1: Check it down, Man Down Thursday morning, December one, and
Speaker 1: is the Beating the Book podcast megabot live from the
Speaker 1: d week seventeen of the National Football League season Gill Alexander,
Speaker 1: of course, flanked by the staples of the show, Derek
Speaker 1: Stevens Conciliarium. By the way, thank you for Brian Derek
Speaker 1: on last week. He's the vice president of Operations and
Speaker 1: Circuit Sports. He's also the co host of odds on
Speaker 1: at VS in Michael Palm, how you doing, Mike, good morning.
Speaker 1: I hope everyone had a great holiday season and looking
Speaker 1: forward too. Of the listeners, I mean sorry sorry of
Speaker 1: course expressed our condolences to you, and I know the
Speaker 1: fans mean a lot to you and you're you're here
Speaker 1: right now fulfilling this obligation at the most terrible time.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I for those who don't know if those
Speaker 1: who listen to this podcast, who have heard my invitations
Speaker 1: of my father through the years, both not only Beating
Speaker 1: the Book podcast, but also on the Betting Dork podcast
Speaker 1: before that. My father passed away this past weekend. Um
Speaker 1: because my mom had COVID, we have delayed the burial
Speaker 1: till next week. So you you and Todd will kindly
Speaker 1: step in into the podcast next week. I really appreciated
Speaker 1: uh doing me that honor. But yes, so that's what
Speaker 1: Mikey is referring to. For those who may have missed that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sir Todd Wishnev from his mom's cork Addict
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Toddy, thank you for being here. You're
Speaker 1: you keep turning to the left, which means you have
Speaker 1: bets on the South Carolina North Carolina Bowl game. Your
Speaker 1: bets are what I have over sixty one and a
Speaker 1: half and I have South Carolina on the money line, um,
Speaker 1: because I did in game both of them eight to ten. Currently,
Speaker 1: as we record this and our guest today are rotating guests,
Speaker 1: first time ever on the Mega Pod. He is not
Speaker 1: only a Visa staple, but he's the host of the
Speaker 1: New York City Cast podcast wherever podcasts are available, The
Speaker 1: New York City Cast it is, and don't get confused
Speaker 1: with the actual sports book. His name is Will Hill.
Speaker 1: How you do it? Will? What's going on? Gil? Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me? Uh. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: listeners said I'm gonna be like Ian book today my
Speaker 1: first appearance on I don't know if that was a
Speaker 1: compliment or an insult, but I'm gonna take that didn't
Speaker 1: sound very good. By the way, is the first time
Speaker 1: I've ever seen you without a coat and tie, So
Speaker 1: congratulations on that as well. What is the logo? I
Speaker 1: can't tell. I can't tell what the logo is on
Speaker 1: your thing? Oh okay, there you go. I couldn't see
Speaker 1: this for Lombardi Line. There you go, will through the
Speaker 1: Lombardi Line program. Yes he's one of the Yes, he's
Speaker 1: one of the spinoff hosts, they say on Visa. You know,
Speaker 1: he had a role on the Lombardi Line and now
Speaker 1: he has his own, his own pop so he he's
Speaker 1: like the the flow of Alice. For instance, he or
Speaker 1: maud I compare more to maaud rode up rota, right,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Uh? What else are to to? Seven? Was?
Speaker 1: That part was? J K was terrific, terrific in there. Sure,
Speaker 1: Uh well, happy to have you here, Thank you for
Speaker 1: doing this. So before we get into our picks, first
Speaker 1: of all, Circus Survivor Michael, Oh my god, we're down
Speaker 1: to five and then there were five. There was a
Speaker 1: moment in time where if maybe Nick Chubb hadn't got
Speaker 1: ejected from the game with a minute ago, that it
Speaker 1: could have been a scoop for for him. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what I asked. I assumed Nick Chubb got ejected
Speaker 1: and that's why after he was gashing the Packers for
Speaker 1: ten and twelve yards on every kerry and they had
Speaker 1: three time outs with a minute to go at midfield,
Speaker 1: that you didn't see him again, but d NP coach's decision.
Speaker 1: Coach's decision. But you know that's the Fansky decided to
Speaker 1: dance with the one that didn't bring him and then
Speaker 1: they put the ball in Baker's hands. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: interesting thing I wanted to preface this with Gil was
Speaker 1: you said it only mattered if you had multiple entries
Speaker 1: going into this Thursday Saturday Christmas window, and no, but
Speaker 1: he did. Nobody did. Nobody did. There were sixteen Obviously
Speaker 1: those eight that still had the Packers were in an
Speaker 1: advantageous position and they got through luckily after green Bay
Speaker 1: only scored three points in the second half. Interesting that
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. You know, if you didn't have green Bay,
Speaker 1: it came down to did you want to take San
Speaker 1: Francisco on the road. The Titans at home are Arizona
Speaker 1: at home, and I mean the move was all on
Speaker 1: Arizona with the Colts offensive line trouble, so you know,
Speaker 1: three go out with the forty niners in the game
Speaker 1: that looked like they had total control of that one
Speaker 1: person return of survivors his entry name. He advanced and
Speaker 1: had a shot at the Packers lost on Saturday to
Speaker 1: scooped the whole six million. By the way, he has
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers left, so he would have continued to play
Speaker 1: on for two more weeks to try to earn the
Speaker 1: extra million if he had even won the six at
Speaker 1: that point. But then three go out on the Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury Christmas Classic in the desert on Saturday night, leaving us.
Speaker 1: Then with nine heading into Sunday, and four were eliminated
Speaker 1: with the Chargers loss to detections, and then there were
Speaker 1: five five had the Chargers available. Four of the five
Speaker 1: took him. One person who had the Chargers decided, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take the Eagles. This doesn't feel right that that
Speaker 1: guy is the happiest man alive. And of the remaining five,
Speaker 1: so three took the Eagles, two took the Falcons, and
Speaker 1: the two that took the Falcons one of them was
Speaker 1: your aforementioned return of survivor, who had the Buccaneers available
Speaker 1: and decided without their three players, despite being a double
Speaker 1: digit favorite, he was going to take the Falcons against Detroit.
Speaker 1: The other person had the Bengals available, who took the Falcons.
Speaker 1: He decided to take the Falcons, and of course Tim
Speaker 1: Boyle's gift at the end at the ten yard line
Speaker 1: was what sealed that deal. And so I guess the
Speaker 1: question here with these last five is with two weeks left,
Speaker 1: what as you said, one has Tampa Bay still left?
Speaker 1: But he already he already eschewed them, if you will.
Speaker 1: For the Falcons, He's talked to Jeff Benson, and through
Speaker 1: conversations with Jeff about different things, were pretty certain he's
Speaker 1: saving them for if he didn't use this last week. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I think this week everybody, All five have Seattle if
Speaker 1: you want to if you want to take them against
Speaker 1: the Lions, although that could be dicey, but two of
Speaker 1: them have San Francisco. It's a point home favorite against
Speaker 1: the Texans. Albeit Jimmy g in the hand and all
Speaker 1: says he's confident he can go. So yeah, So two
Speaker 1: of the five have San Francisco available. It should be
Speaker 1: pointed out that no of the big favorites, nobody has
Speaker 1: New England, nobody has Indianapolis, nobody has Buffalo. Uh so
Speaker 1: to have San Francisco. One has the Tampa but he's
Speaker 1: already indicated by his actions that he's going to save them.
Speaker 1: And then it goes down. So so the two people
Speaker 1: have San Francisco against Houston. What could possibly go wrong? Right?
Speaker 1: The other three if the guy's not gonna use Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay have to then knock it down to the six
Speaker 1: and a half point range, which is the Bears, Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and Saints of the World. And they're well, what else
Speaker 1: are they gonna do? Though, two people have no choice
Speaker 1: what to take one of them. If it's not Seattle,
Speaker 1: I think it has to be the Bears. But now
Speaker 1: is glenn and back for the will would know more
Speaker 1: than is Glennon gonna start for the Giants Sunday? First,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Second, Joe Judges not in the middle.
Speaker 1: He's playing this you know game where you know, but
Speaker 1: we'll have both guys prepared. Neither one belongs in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean they threw forty four passes for a hundred
Speaker 1: yards last week. It's really they don't have an NFL
Speaker 1: quarterback at this point, and so and so about the
Speaker 1: question of so each one of these has a little
Speaker 1: last thing. Each one has an intrinsic value of one
Speaker 1: point two million dollars at this point. The remaining five
Speaker 1: six million dollar pot. But three, the one guy with
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and the two that have Kansas City available
Speaker 1: have this ability to to use them in the final week.
Speaker 1: This was a stipulation before the season started that if
Speaker 1: you go the distance and you have either Kansas City
Speaker 1: or Tampa Bay last year's Super Bowl teams available, you
Speaker 1: use them in week eighteen, the final week, the twenty week,
Speaker 1: if you will of circus survivor, you get a bonus million. Now,
Speaker 1: let me just ask you a question. If all five
Speaker 1: got through, there is no bonus. There is there is
Speaker 1: for those people. Let's say five got through in three
Speaker 1: in the two US Kansas City one and they all
Speaker 1: want yes, right, so those five each get one point
Speaker 1: two million, and then the other three would get three thousand.
Speaker 1: They'd split that extra million. Okay, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: clarify that, which is a nice spot to be. Let's
Speaker 1: say you have Tampa Bay and they're what are sixteen
Speaker 1: and a half point look ahead against Caroline. Caroline is
Speaker 1: gonna be plus eight fifty year better on the money line,
Speaker 1: you're now playing for one point five three million. That's
Speaker 1: a pretty straight edge, right, I mean edge, perfect edge.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you how many people do you think
Speaker 1: get through in the end, because this is a tough
Speaker 1: week about how about how about next week? You don't
Speaker 1: know who, you really don't know who needs to play
Speaker 1: for what right? And Kansas City might be dicey to use.
Speaker 1: We saw what they did against the Chargers last year
Speaker 1: when they have home field. You don't know about COVID.
Speaker 1: You don't know anything. You don't know, you don't know anything. Now,
Speaker 1: one player parlay g that Derek thought was in the
Speaker 1: best spot because of the teams he had left used
Speaker 1: the Chargers last week, and he'd been coming. He's from
Speaker 1: l A. He's uh Sauti J advisor for a biotech
Speaker 1: company there. He's been flying in the last three weeks.
Speaker 1: On Sunday morning with his wife, he was down about
Speaker 1: forty thousand, hedging so far right, losing keep going. He
Speaker 1: took thirty thousand Texans plus four ninety thirty thousand Texas
Speaker 1: plus twelve and a half right, so he picked up
Speaker 1: one eighty. Essentially he'd lost forty. So he ends up
Speaker 1: profiting a hundred and thirty seven thirty eight thousand on
Speaker 1: getting a survivor right. So I mean, not bad, although
Speaker 1: very Just like you said, it's really wasn't about the money.
Speaker 1: It was about the process that he was. He came
Speaker 1: in when they got down to Scortons in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: he was here. He shook Derek's hand in my hand,
Speaker 1: said thanks for what a wonderful time, and we'll see
Speaker 1: you next year. This one I said. When I got
Speaker 1: knocked out, I'm like, it's not it's not even the
Speaker 1: money you lose. It's not even the money you hope
Speaker 1: to gain, although that's number two. It's it's the the
Speaker 1: entertainment of it. It's the mental gymnastics. It's such a
Speaker 1: great contest Las Vegas. Chris and I had a conversation
Speaker 1: on air about it. I said to him, I said,
Speaker 1: I think the contest is perfect. I do. I think
Speaker 1: it's perfect. In the end. I think Thanksgiving and Christmas
Speaker 1: corks were great. Uh, Todd, I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I like I like all the quirks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Um Our records updated Sir Court stenographer Todd Wishnet. The
Speaker 1: Iceman had a big week three and oh to move
Speaker 1: to squarely ahead at twenty four and twenty four. He
Speaker 1: was the man to beat Mikey moves to and one
Speaker 1: with a nice two and one. I had a horrendous
Speaker 1: oh and three to go to nineteen and twenty nine.
Speaker 1: What's funny is in my circule millions, I went four
Speaker 1: and one last week to go to forty five and
Speaker 1: thirty five, and I'm still not even getting I'm like
Speaker 1: tied for eight hundred place. I'm going nowhere in the
Speaker 1: circle millions, even if I know end up like it's
Speaker 1: fifty eight percent or something and west or forty seven
Speaker 1: and thirty three. We were talking about the same thing
Speaker 1: this morning. I I've got no show. I know two people.
Speaker 1: I know one tied for sixteen and I know one
Speaker 1: tied for twenty seconds. So interesting. Nice. It's also interesting
Speaker 1: at first the Hannibal Barcas first and then a game
Speaker 1: back is his other entry. He hasn't been splitting the
Speaker 1: picks at all, right, Yeah, but also the guy tied
Speaker 1: with him in second is also like tied for fifth. Right,
Speaker 1: he has two injuries derbified could be wildly amazing. What
Speaker 1: happens his last few weeks amazing on teasers. We now
Speaker 1: move everyone one their teasers. So Gil and Mike your eight,
Speaker 1: seven and one and I am ten and six on
Speaker 1: the teaser side. So somehow we have to have Todd
Speaker 1: lose three here. I don't think it's happening. He's very capable.
Speaker 1: Everyone's capable. We're all capable. He's too good, he's too sharp.
Speaker 1: All right, let us uh, let us there's no Thursday
Speaker 1: game tonight, by the way, let's racially start with Thursday.
Speaker 1: By the way, why the NFL not figure on this?
Speaker 1: So the NFL only has Thursday games through week six,
Speaker 1: so there's no Thursday game tonight. You'll be entertained by
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas bull instead. Uh. And I was talking
Speaker 1: about this on the morning on the morning show on
Speaker 1: the Numbers game this morning when Will was on. Actually
Speaker 1: Will do a double duty, which is next week. So
Speaker 1: so this week is the final Monday night game between
Speaker 1: the Browns and the Steelers. By the way, Big Ben
Speaker 1: says it might be his last game in hines Field.
Speaker 1: Will get I will be going to that game. So
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast and you know how
Speaker 1: much I can affect the game by being at the
Speaker 1: game and how loud I could be, especially with fifty
Speaker 1: thousand other crazies, you should be aware of that. And
Speaker 1: uh so that's the last Monday night regular season game
Speaker 1: of the year. Now Week A teen the final regular
Speaker 1: season game. Next week they are going to once Week
Speaker 1: seventeen game games get finished, they're going to flex two
Speaker 1: games to Saturday, and the rest of the games will
Speaker 1: be played Sunday. There is no Monday night game next week.
Speaker 1: But when we were talking about this morning was by
Speaker 1: doing that there could be some correlated parlay opportunities based
Speaker 1: on playoff implications of the results of those Saturday games
Speaker 1: whichever to they flex, so be sure to be aware
Speaker 1: of that. And then wild Card week. Um, remember last
Speaker 1: year was the first year they won seven teams for conference.
Speaker 1: It was three games on Saturday, three games on Sunday.
Speaker 1: This year is the first year where they're doing it
Speaker 1: two on Saturday, three on Sunday, and a Monday night er.
Speaker 1: Do you prefer that? How about the team that comes
Speaker 1: back on short rest? That so, what we're saying, I remember,
Speaker 1: remember when the Vikings have set the Saints on the
Speaker 1: Sunday and then they had to come back and play
Speaker 1: the one seed fort on the on the Saturday. I
Speaker 1: thought they were in such a bad spot there with
Speaker 1: the short rest and travel and all that. It's a
Speaker 1: tough to be in that Monday night spot. So the
Speaker 1: final week Saturday games, I assume are going to be
Speaker 1: teams that are out of it because they always wanting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll have to be. So then I have a question
Speaker 1: for you. They used to do it where like everyone
Speaker 1: was playing at the same time on the last weekend,
Speaker 1: so nobody knew before. So I guess that's not gonna
Speaker 1: happen if they're they're Saturday. Exactly what I was saying
Speaker 1: this morning, that it used to be before they did
Speaker 1: it all at the same time, that you could do
Speaker 1: these great correlated Parley's books weren't even hip to it
Speaker 1: right better early game. Based on the result of that,
Speaker 1: then you you know, might be able to catch a
Speaker 1: team that won't be you won't have anything to play
Speaker 1: for in the late game kind of thing. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then they legislated against that, but now it's a possibility again.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, that's what I was wondering, because I know
Speaker 1: they used to do that thing where everybody playing at
Speaker 1: the same time in the last weekend. Yeah, it's very
Speaker 1: very interesting from from a Betty standpoint that regard. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let us begin with the best bets. Will Hill,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen from the New York City cast your
Speaker 1: first best bet of week seventeen, Sir, Bengals plus four
Speaker 1: and a half plus five. I'm not sure what what
Speaker 1: lines were using here. I just think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: right in this game. I'm surprised this is over a
Speaker 1: field goal. Kansas City's win streak has really not impressed me.
Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders twice, the Broncos who moved the
Speaker 1: ball up and down the field on I'm settling for,
Speaker 1: you know, no drives and no points in a ninety
Speaker 1: five yard drive, all those kinds of things. Green Bay
Speaker 1: without Rogers, the Giants getting the Dallas without their two
Speaker 1: topers sievers to me, this is a back and forth game,
Speaker 1: last team with the ball. I'm not opposed to and
Speaker 1: over here either. I like the Bengals. Do you think
Speaker 1: they've got a decent shot to win the game for
Speaker 1: Bengals would be my best bat here. I I let
Speaker 1: me just step in. I'm with Will. We found out
Speaker 1: this morning that we were both on this game. I
Speaker 1: like Cincinnati as well. You think about who has the
Speaker 1: better wide receivers Bengals, Who has the better running back Bengals,
Speaker 1: Who has the better quarterback maybe Mahomes but not by much. Um,
Speaker 1: who's got the better tight at Kansas City. I just
Speaker 1: think Cincinnati does, in fact, that they match up pound
Speaker 1: for pound, score for score. You're giving me the points.
Speaker 1: This is the biggest game in Cincinnati, and how long
Speaker 1: gotta be decades at this point? Isn't it my missing
Speaker 1: a year with the Bengals. I think that what year
Speaker 1: was it? Dalton might have hosted one of those playoffs
Speaker 1: the Charger when it was fifty below one, Founts couldn't
Speaker 1: hold the ball and Ken Anderson completed straight passes. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's the game that came to mind. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of, that cold game that the Ken Anderson.
Speaker 1: The thing was with Marvin Harrison, he lost all those
Speaker 1: games at home in the playoffs. He couldn't Marvin Jones, Yes,
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, Marvin Lewis he lost all those games. He
Speaker 1: couldn't win a game, and so there was no big
Speaker 1: game because they never got to the next round. Um,
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis was Marvin Lewis terrific, terrific, terrific defensive. He
Speaker 1: was good at getting them to the playoffs. He just
Speaker 1: was the winning record. They won the divisional up and
Speaker 1: they couldn't win a playoff game. So there must have
Speaker 1: been big games in Cincinnati since then. So you're on,
Speaker 1: I'm on the bank. What's the total here? You have, Todd?
Speaker 1: Is a consensus? Yeah? You you tipped my hand here
Speaker 1: will I'm My best bet is the over in this game.
Speaker 1: I think both these teams will go up and down
Speaker 1: the field. Kansas City and this win streak has not
Speaker 1: played in offense like this. And and look, I think
Speaker 1: here in this game, this very easily is a is
Speaker 1: a thirty one thirty one type game. I like getting
Speaker 1: the points too, but it's not one of my us bet.
Speaker 1: So I'm over here on this game about Kansas City. Also,
Speaker 1: if you look up and down their schedule current teams
Speaker 1: in playoff position, they've won exactly three games. One of
Speaker 1: them was Green Bay without Aaron Rodgers. One of them
Speaker 1: was out Dallas without a Marii Cooper and the other
Speaker 1: one was Philadelphia. Kansas City doesn't exactly have the greatest
Speaker 1: resume here. Hey, to throw water on the everybody's chief
Speaker 1: slurping Todd, what's your best bet? First one? Well, I've
Speaker 1: been riding the Jaguars unders until the last two weeks
Speaker 1: when I when I had the over and both them,
Speaker 1: but not in the picks here. But I knew to
Speaker 1: stay away from those two overs. I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: to the Jags under again. Um now, because they're playing
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I just don't think New England's gonna show
Speaker 1: a hell hell of a lot. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: run the ball a tremendous amount like they've been doing
Speaker 1: this entire season. Um, I can go under forty two here.
Speaker 1: I don't see the Jags getting more than seven. So
Speaker 1: even at thirty seven I pushed, But how about thirty
Speaker 1: four seven for the win? Um? I think it's going
Speaker 1: under because I think New England is just gonna run
Speaker 1: the ball and the Jacks aren't gonna score like like
Speaker 1: typically they don't against any good defense. They usually only
Speaker 1: can get seven to ten points. So I'll take Jacks
Speaker 1: New England under forty two? Is that now the biggest
Speaker 1: spread of the entire year? The New England Jacksonville game.
Speaker 1: I don't think we thought the Bills were like eighteen
Speaker 1: against in Texas against the Texas, wasn't it against the
Speaker 1: Texas Texas they went up like eighteen eighteen and a half? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I know they weren't that against Jacksonville they were no, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah that and there was also that that one.
Speaker 1: Remember I did the ten point teaser to plus twenty eight,
Speaker 1: so you're you're exactly right, Mike, it was a plus eighteen.
Speaker 1: You know, it's great for North Carolina on the fourth
Speaker 1: and one to have a false start, that's all. I
Speaker 1: think they're tanking this game so that Mac Brown doesn't
Speaker 1: have the mayonnaise doust. He could die at his age.
Speaker 1: Can you think of a more disgusting thing to be
Speaker 1: doused by? They actually got the coaches quotes before the game.
Speaker 1: Shane Biemer's like, I'm not really a mayo guy. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you sometimes just made that up. Okay,
Speaker 1: will your number two? Yeah, I'll go with the Titans.
Speaker 1: Three and a half might be up to four in
Speaker 1: some spots look again, just another phony winning streak. When
Speaker 1: you look at the Dolphins, alright, they beat Lamar on
Speaker 1: that Thursday night, that's impressed it. But other than that,
Speaker 1: it's Mike Glennon, It's Flacco, it's Tyrod Taylor, it's Ian
Speaker 1: Book on Monday night. Is it's still a really bad
Speaker 1: offensive line for Miami. The Titans have a major advantace
Speaker 1: here in terms of the rest. They didn't play since
Speaker 1: last Thursday. Miami had a short week. Monday night on
Speaker 1: the road. Give me the Titans. Is it three or
Speaker 1: three and a half? Toddy three and a half? Okay,
Speaker 1: you still like it at three and a half? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean the hook makes me nervous because I don't
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a whole lot of points here.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna swallow and hope it doesn't burn me.
Speaker 1: I think the Titans win thirteen that type of game.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much Miami's gonna score here. Will
Speaker 1: was on a Numbers game this morning and we learned
Speaker 1: that we're on all the same damn games. I am
Speaker 1: also on the Titans. Uh, you guys are on every game.
Speaker 1: I like. I like that one too. I'm on the
Speaker 1: Titans Spinus three and a half. I was now here
Speaker 1: for guessing lines this week. Um, but when I when
Speaker 1: I guessed them on my own, it looked these were
Speaker 1: the games, all the games that I'm putting out here.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's five and oh last week five
Speaker 1: and you can't give me sixteen weeks and not having
Speaker 1: me have a better than the three and two. Mikey,
Speaker 1: don't let anybody tell you you give that guy sixteen weeks.
Speaker 1: He's getting better than you were. Five and oh. But
Speaker 1: also three and o on the pod, Todd was four
Speaker 1: and one and three and three fascinating. Fascinating. But I
Speaker 1: like the Titans. Here the Dolphins again in their seven
Speaker 1: game winning streak. They haven't you know, you look at
Speaker 1: their list of quarterbacks that they play. They haven't beaten anybody,
Speaker 1: by the way, I get it. Ryan Tannehill might be
Speaker 1: the eighth on that list if you're talking just quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: But the Titans do have a j Brown back. They're
Speaker 1: getting players back. The COVID issues that it looked like
Speaker 1: the Titans might have early in the week have now
Speaker 1: gotten mitigated by the UH the reduction in days off
Speaker 1: that you need or that you are required to have
Speaker 1: from ten to five. So I just think the Titans
Speaker 1: are better football team, and I think the Titans are
Speaker 1: live for the number one seed. Sast on those two things.
Speaker 1: If Cincinnati beats Kansas City and Tennessee can break the
Speaker 1: Dolphins winning streak, the Tennessee Titans will be your number
Speaker 1: one seed heading into Week eighteen, and Mike Rabel will
Speaker 1: be very alive for Coach of the Year as well.
Speaker 1: So I'm on, I'm on. The Titans think they're better
Speaker 1: football team all around than the Dolphins are. If Kansas
Speaker 1: City has to go to Tennessee in the playoffs, do
Speaker 1: you like Tennessee's chances to win that game again? Again?
Speaker 1: They destroyed them the first time. I think the Titans
Speaker 1: and the Colts. I asked this of Lombardi yesterday, said
Speaker 1: who are the two Who are the teams that are
Speaker 1: the most impervious to where they play? And it's the
Speaker 1: running teams always, right, So I think Titans and Colts
Speaker 1: for me. Mikey Todd, what's the line that you have
Speaker 1: on Broncos Chargers Bronco's Chargers. I have six and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay the six and a half. You love
Speaker 1: these a f C West games. Well, I tell you
Speaker 1: I made a lot of money on the Raiders. Maybe
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have. But the two lane quarterback that works
Speaker 1: with the Shaun King, explained to me how bad this
Speaker 1: Drew Lock is. He said, you have no idea the
Speaker 1: difference between him and Bridgewater. Really, he said, the stiff
Speaker 1: the cliff is so steep the difference between them. He
Speaker 1: made this argument to me last Thursday when he would
Speaker 1: fill in with Stormy for the guys in the morning.
Speaker 1: When I went to you warned me and I let
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine who's a professional gambler, talked
Speaker 1: me into Denver. I won't mention who, but he talked
Speaker 1: me into Denver, and and I knew it was in trouble.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah, even with the Raiders giving them a
Speaker 1: touchdown right before the you know, before the half, they
Speaker 1: still only put up thirteen points on that Raiders defense.
Speaker 1: He's really bad. The Chargers are totally humiliating performance, humiliating.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get ready to play the Texans backup squad.
Speaker 1: I mean, David's Mills has been god awful. I mean
Speaker 1: just god awful. Yards per tempt did those four games
Speaker 1: he played Colts, Colts, um Bill's Cardinals. They got outscored
Speaker 1: like two eight. He had four yards pert tempt I
Speaker 1: mean he only heard six and completions against the Charge.
Speaker 1: Totally embarrassed. Now they get your locket. All the Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 1: They didn't never, they didn't have their center, they didn't
Speaker 1: have Kimie Fairbairn. They didn't. But I told you, I
Speaker 1: said when the team most likely to lose did I
Speaker 1: said the coaching mismatch. Colleague coach circles around that guy
Speaker 1: that doesn't like to kick the ball, and he hagged
Speaker 1: out the six and a half. Here. Uh, the Chargers
Speaker 1: are the team that I think is the most possible
Speaker 1: volatile results in the postseason. They could get beaten by
Speaker 1: thirty and they can play with anybody at the same time. Alright,
Speaker 1: you guys are taking on all the picks that I've
Speaker 1: written down here Tennessee and Chargers, and and it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny because last time I'm watching the bowl game
Speaker 1: and Oregons down fifteen and it's fourth and sixteen from
Speaker 1: their own two with three twenty to go, and the announcer,
Speaker 1: I think it was Andre Ware says, oh you have
Speaker 1: to punt the ball away. Here, you have to punt
Speaker 1: the ball away because you know if you if you
Speaker 1: don't make it, they're gonna have the ball at I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you serious? Are you serious? You have to fund
Speaker 1: they're down fifteen? What's the difference? Of course, you have
Speaker 1: to go for it. But anyways, that's the same thing
Speaker 1: as I feel now, because you guys are taking all
Speaker 1: this stuff I've written down, and I have to go
Speaker 1: for it because I'm way behind, I might as well
Speaker 1: take something different. What what doesn't matter if I lose
Speaker 1: by twelve or fifteen or whatever. It's the same idea.
Speaker 1: I might as well go for it on fourth and sixteen.
Speaker 1: So anyways, because of that, I'm gonna go off of
Speaker 1: all these ones that I have written down. I love Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I like the Chargers too. I'm gonna just go over
Speaker 1: and the Chargers over forty What do you guys have
Speaker 1: for that? What do you guys have for the Chargers
Speaker 1: over forty five and a half? Okay, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: over forty five and a half. I think the Chargers
Speaker 1: are the quintessential over team in the sense that they
Speaker 1: have no defense and they have a great offense. I
Speaker 1: love Herbert, I love their offensive football. Their defense is horrendous,
Speaker 1: and you know it came back to bite them last
Speaker 1: week because that's what the Chargers do. Remember the Steeler
Speaker 1: game when the Charge just went up and down the
Speaker 1: field and should have won by a hundred to nothing,
Speaker 1: and somehow it was like thirty seven thirty four at
Speaker 1: the end. I mean, there's been so many of these charges.
Speaker 1: And how about that Browns game when the Browns ran
Speaker 1: for a thousand yards on the on the Chargers. There
Speaker 1: was just game after game after game where the Chargers
Speaker 1: defense is just not good. So granted, Drew Locks stinks.
Speaker 1: We all know Drew Locks, but he might throw us
Speaker 1: six points the other way too because he's so bad.
Speaker 1: But I think there's gonna be enough scoring there by
Speaker 1: the Broncos to get you over the forty five and
Speaker 1: a half. I think I think the Charger are gonna
Speaker 1: move the ball up and down the field and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a typical Charger game, which is lots of points.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you, Mikey Shaun King, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: also played pro. I don't know if you know that
Speaker 1: Shaun King, he did? Yes, Okay, hometown. Yes, ok uh,
Speaker 1: not only ant he what what did he say was
Speaker 1: the biggest difference between Lock and Bridgewater? Was it Bridgewater
Speaker 1: protecting the the amount of turnovers? Bridgewater will make the
Speaker 1: other team make place to win. With Lock, your other
Speaker 1: offense doesn't have to make any He's the same thing
Speaker 1: when he was at Missoo. If you remember when he
Speaker 1: was at Missoo, it was the exact same thing. He
Speaker 1: had this giant arm and he had this dumb brain.
Speaker 1: It was exactly like Jeff George. Do you remember, remember
Speaker 1: Jeff George. He's like Jeff George cloone. Jeff George used
Speaker 1: to have that rifle arm but used to throw a
Speaker 1: zillion picks, so you know he's ridiculous, Jeff. Yeah, Jeff
Speaker 1: George's arm was an incredible and he was just a
Speaker 1: brain dead player, a dufus. But so much of quarterback, remember,
Speaker 1: so much of quarterback, as Drew Brees has shown us,
Speaker 1: is between the years. It's really not between you know
Speaker 1: what you can do. And that's why Tom Brady was
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick. You know how about that? Mr? All?
Speaker 1: You general manager geniuses. Tom Brady, by the way, the
Speaker 1: entire general manager position should be thrown in the garbage
Speaker 1: because one time Tom Brady was picked six and the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time was picked in the sixth round.
Speaker 1: So don't give me all your genius nonsense. If an
Speaker 1: NFL team called you today and they said, Todd Wishnev,
Speaker 1: we would like you to step into our front office,
Speaker 1: how long do you think the learning curve would be
Speaker 1: for you, Todd Horatio Wishnev to be the greatest GM
Speaker 1: in all of football, I think it would be a while.
Speaker 1: I think it would be longer actually than being offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: because I think I don't understand all the metrics of
Speaker 1: of things, but I mean I would pick it up
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. I'm just saying I think it would be
Speaker 1: longer than the the offensive coordinator. Let's say you were
Speaker 1: made the offensive coordinator. How long do you think it
Speaker 1: would take. I think it would take me two years.
Speaker 1: If I got to sit and watch film with somebody
Speaker 1: who really knew their stuff, really really well and ask
Speaker 1: them all the questions, I think within two years I
Speaker 1: could be a good offensive Warriors two years. No comment,
Speaker 1: Michael Palm, that's fine. Take the over all day you can,
Speaker 1: That's fine. I mean. I also did the Series seven
Speaker 1: test in you know, four days of studying. Most people
Speaker 1: take some six months Mikey, So you know you probably
Speaker 1: don't even know what that is you and do Series
Speaker 1: seven in less than a week. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: What are you kidding? Serious people study? Most people study
Speaker 1: for the Series seven test for six months. Gily for
Speaker 1: only pass on the first dry series. You're not an
Speaker 1: easy one. You can do a Series seven test in
Speaker 1: a week of study? You are completely wrong. In fact,
Speaker 1: I will bet you any amount of money that you
Speaker 1: couldn't do it in a week. I did it in
Speaker 1: a week. How about that? Okay? So I passed go
Speaker 1: to him into a pass post. I'll tell you a
Speaker 1: funny story about the Series seven. When I was working
Speaker 1: at a brokerage and took the Series seven. I was
Speaker 1: back at twelve thirty in the afternoon and they and
Speaker 1: they said to me, what are you doing? I thought,
Speaker 1: you're taking the Series seven today and it's an all
Speaker 1: day test, and I said, yeah, I'm done already. It
Speaker 1: took me like an hour and a half for the
Speaker 1: first part in an hour and a half, and I
Speaker 1: had an advantage because I knew the option stuff, which
Speaker 1: is the hardest part of it. Advantage. I had a
Speaker 1: big advantage. I was done like twelve thirty. They didn't
Speaker 1: believe me, and then I showed them the test, and
Speaker 1: then they finally believed me. Yeah you were You were
Speaker 1: a ringer for that kind of test. All right, number yes, sir.
Speaker 1: I just like to comment. What I said was that
Speaker 1: I didn't think within two years he'd become the top
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in everyone. That was your question. How long
Speaker 1: would it take you to the That was the question? Yes,
Speaker 1: it was I thought you said a good off, the
Speaker 1: very best. No, I don't think I would be Okay,
Speaker 1: That's all I was saying. I took the over up.
Speaker 1: I think it would take you at least three and
Speaker 1: half four seasons to be the top off. I think
Speaker 1: I could be an adequate offensive coordinator within two years
Speaker 1: if I could do nothing but watch film with somebody
Speaker 1: who really knew their stuff for a full two years.
Speaker 1: How long would it take you to be better than
Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil? Maybe a week and a half. Are gonna
Speaker 1: have will your number three? Be very quiet? Will Hill?
Speaker 1: How you doing it? I'm good South Carolina plus two
Speaker 1: forty money line second half If anyone's interested in that one.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure seven is the second half line there.
Speaker 1: If you figure in North Carolina is just gonna know show,
Speaker 1: maybe just take a shot there with South Carolina. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure it's a great backdoor team though, Will. It's
Speaker 1: a great backdoor team with with with how you know,
Speaker 1: throwing meaningless touchdowns. He's like the Jay Cutler of college football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good point. What do you have for the
Speaker 1: Pits Pittsburgh line? I'm sorry, Pittsburgh Steelers, the Pittsburgh Stars.
Speaker 1: I will be going don there to to the Hines
Speaker 1: Field and we'll be watching the game. I'll have a
Speaker 1: big mel before the game. I'm looking at three, three
Speaker 1: and a half. I'm saying, I'll give you the three
Speaker 1: Brownie's minus three big game I'll take. I'll take the
Speaker 1: Steelers here. I just think this is kind of, uh,
Speaker 1: kind of be like the Raiders Brown's game, that Monday
Speaker 1: postponent game where it's just I think it was six
Speaker 1: teams fourteen. I think it's a teen type of ugly game.
Speaker 1: I don't think either team should be laying three or
Speaker 1: getting three. Remember this is gonna be Big Ben's team,
Speaker 1: and there's a chance. This is an exhibition game pretty much.
Speaker 1: If the Bengals win and wrap things up, both these
Speaker 1: teams I believe, are eliminated. So if you're getting three
Speaker 1: basically an exhibition game, I just think that's too many points.
Speaker 1: I think this is a toss up game. We've all
Speaker 1: seen Baker Mayfield and his issues. So I'll take Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: plus three. Cleveland in an amazing spot at least. Now,
Speaker 1: this could be dead by game time, which is what
Speaker 1: Will is intimating. But Cleveland two games back in the NFS.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, the a f C North two games back
Speaker 1: with two games to play and two teams in between
Speaker 1: them and the Bengals, And yet the Browns are the
Speaker 1: second short shot to win that division because they only
Speaker 1: need four events to happen. They need to win out
Speaker 1: game against the Steelers and the Bengals, and the Bengals
Speaker 1: need to lose to the do do to the Chiefs
Speaker 1: this week, and the Ravens just need to lose to
Speaker 1: the Rams their toughest game, and then it's there's the
Speaker 1: division is there's They would win it at nine and eight,
Speaker 1: but if things don't go their way, it could be
Speaker 1: dead and dead on arrival as well, well, are you?
Speaker 1: Are you factoring in the fact I will be at
Speaker 1: the game and also screaming very loud? Is that part
Speaker 1: of the reason you took the Steelers well handicapped for
Speaker 1: these four events to happen, So the Browns to win
Speaker 1: the division? You can find it about six to one three.
Speaker 1: You're looking at three things that are small favorites and
Speaker 1: then one upset to get there. What exactly has to happen? Again?
Speaker 1: Say that again? So the Browns have to win their
Speaker 1: last two games, right, Steelers? And what's their last game Bengals?
Speaker 1: Because they have the Bengals? Is one of their last
Speaker 1: two games? That's key. And then the Bengals would have
Speaker 1: to lose this week at home to the Chiefs. Very plausible.
Speaker 1: And the Ravens would have to lose one of their
Speaker 1: last two games. Remember they're playing the Rams this week. Plausible.
Speaker 1: So so really, where's the last game is? Look ahead?
Speaker 1: Is Cleveland minus one and a half? So Wheel's right,
Speaker 1: It's all four events would be favored. It's not outlanded.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say this, any team and
Speaker 1: like the history of football that's been two games out
Speaker 1: with two games to play and they're in dead last,
Speaker 1: have two teams in between them and the leader. For
Speaker 1: them to only need four events to happen to win
Speaker 1: the division is mind boggling. It's incredible. And then their favorite,
Speaker 1: and they'd be favorite in each one of those events. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. They're all small favorites, right, three points, four points,
Speaker 1: one and a half points. It's not one of the
Speaker 1: ram one of the Rams here this week they're three
Speaker 1: and a half three and they're all the field goals
Speaker 1: type games. It's pretty amazing, except you've got Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Except I firmly believe if he'd have gone too case Keenum.
Speaker 1: A month ago they were winning this division. What are
Speaker 1: they gonna do? They pay him eighteen and a half
Speaker 1: million next year. It's the fifth year they have to
Speaker 1: make a decision. After that, it's the Jared Golf, Rams,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, Washington, Dak Prescott Cowboys, you know you name it.
Speaker 1: The point in their lists. Who's starting for Ravens against
Speaker 1: the Rams this war? Jackson Mars. He was in practice
Speaker 1: yesterday even though he had a hitch in his gidea.
Speaker 1: He was walking around like an old man. Remember remember
Speaker 1: how they embarrassed the Rams on Monday Night Football. The
Speaker 1: Ravens Ravens, right, Ravens wasn't Yeah in l A didn't
Speaker 1: They absolutely destroy the Rams. It's all, it's all right,
Speaker 1: Monday night football. They just scored at will against him.
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be fat. Wait when was that on
Speaker 1: a Monday night football game? What you're talking about? Ravens
Speaker 1: and Rams? Ravens and Rams? When though like week two
Speaker 1: years ago? Two years ago? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean it was a pummeling. Um is a minter? Who's
Speaker 1: number two? Who's the number three? Your turn, Mike? We
Speaker 1: have yeah, we have three left. Yeah, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the what's the Bears six? Todd up Bears? I see
Speaker 1: the Bears at six six and apple. This Giant's offense
Speaker 1: is incredible. Um, but I'd rather have it. I'd rather
Speaker 1: play against From. I mean, From was like five of
Speaker 1: thirteen for ten yards or something. To know I would
Speaker 1: I had the Eagles on the teaser, and I get
Speaker 1: Philadelphia could do nothing. They couldn't get out of their
Speaker 1: own way in there, and I never felt there was
Speaker 1: any jeopardy of them losing that because the Giants had
Speaker 1: like an eight yard out and he'd be ten yards
Speaker 1: over the guy's head. He wasn't even close throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: They can't run the ball. I mean, they're really really bad.
Speaker 1: And they give Joe Judge a vote of confidence here
Speaker 1: in extended, but I mean this is a bad team. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the Bears get a little pepper their step off
Speaker 1: a win in Seattle, and and you know, I just
Speaker 1: think the Giants can't score here. I would look at this,
Speaker 1: this game could bring it under two, depending on whether
Speaker 1: but I'd rather lay less than a touchdown with the Bears.
Speaker 1: These team total opportunities with some of these quarterbacks, like
Speaker 1: Ian Book, I just keep pounding the Saints under team total.
Speaker 1: And when you jake from pounding the Giants team total.
Speaker 1: If you have access to team totals, folks, and you
Speaker 1: watch the first two drives of one of these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and he can't move the ball, just pounded team total,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the number is. They can't get there.
Speaker 1: Will will ask me before the pockets is can I
Speaker 1: use a team total as one of my best bets?
Speaker 1: And I quickly quickly said, I'm sorry, that's not allowed.
Speaker 1: On it allowed, it's not allowed. But but you have
Speaker 1: to know that the team totals are. You watched two
Speaker 1: or three drives and it's just it's it works. It's
Speaker 1: maybe the easiest bet you can win. We play, we
Speaker 1: play under Nevada rules. There we did an I can't
Speaker 1: get this podcast test gaming to save my life. The
Speaker 1: uh the thing about Kirby Smart and Jake From, though
Speaker 1: he will always go to he took Jake From. He
Speaker 1: decided that we're keeping Jake From at quarterback justin fields,
Speaker 1: move along. Let's ever forget if Kirby Smart. If you
Speaker 1: ask Kirby Smart today, you actually have access to have
Speaker 1: Jake From against Michigan, which of the three quarterbacks would
Speaker 1: he start? I say it's not Jake From. Say no,
Speaker 1: Jake From? Uh Todd your third and final. I don't
Speaker 1: remember that guy being even good in college. So I
Speaker 1: don't even know what do these guys watch the games
Speaker 1: in college and colley they have they have access to
Speaker 1: these guys in every single practice, right, So like, how
Speaker 1: do they decide, yeah, Jake From is better than Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: How does Florida decide, yeah, you know, Felippe Franks, you're
Speaker 1: better than Kyle Trask. It's it's amazing. How does how
Speaker 1: does Ohio State decide to themselves? This Joe Burrow guy,
Speaker 1: he's not really all that. Go ahead, move on. I
Speaker 1: mean do they watch the games? I mean I watched
Speaker 1: fifteen hours of football on Saturday. And again I didn't
Speaker 1: say I could do the general manager job, but wow,
Speaker 1: I mean just worse than a watch of the games
Speaker 1: because they were the practice everything, Like you can't tell
Speaker 1: a practice they suck. That's incredible. My third pick will
Speaker 1: be uh and I'm really I'm really scratching here because
Speaker 1: that you guys took all the ones that I liked.
Speaker 1: What was your third? Will again? Will Steelers left Washington?
Speaker 1: I knew the like, well there you go, thank you
Speaker 1: very much. Will you uh listen? I know that they
Speaker 1: gave up a thousand bajillion points in the first half
Speaker 1: against Dallas the other night. Uh, No team was. No
Speaker 1: team is as good as they were one week or
Speaker 1: as bad as they were one week to the next.
Speaker 1: I think getting the three in the hook against Philly
Speaker 1: at home is to your point about Philadelphi. Philadelp is
Speaker 1: not scaring anybody. I do not believe in the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: Give me the three in the hook I will take woofed,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, and Washington will remain in the
Speaker 1: playoff picture to the final week of the year. You know,
Speaker 1: I love those teams that get absolutely embarrassed on in
Speaker 1: the game, you know, but but boy did they look horrendous.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. That was like, that was the only
Speaker 1: pro football game you're gonna watch. It looks like a
Speaker 1: college game. It looked like Ohio State against you know,
Speaker 1: like Miami of Ohio in the beginning of the year
Speaker 1: when they just could score it. Well, that was incredible,
Speaker 1: just an incredible in the season. I I'll tell this
Speaker 1: story because uh, me and my oldest friend Tommy, who
Speaker 1: I grew up with. We've known each other since we
Speaker 1: were six years old, and I was mentioning on a
Speaker 1: numbers game. He was like if you ever watched The
Speaker 1: Cosby Show, he was like cockroach in my household, and uh,
Speaker 1: Tommy and I, you know, when I when learned of
Speaker 1: the death of my father, we were crying. And then
Speaker 1: in the middle of it, because this was during this
Speaker 1: was during the second half of the Washington game, just
Speaker 1: sort of you know, laughing through our tears, we decided
Speaker 1: that my father decided to check out earlier that day
Speaker 1: because he feared that Dallas would roll Washington. So he
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm out. I don't want
Speaker 1: to endure this. But that was our little moment of
Speaker 1: of amusement to again sort of distract us by Thank
Speaker 1: God for football. Football has been the greatest thing ever
Speaker 1: to distract me from all of this. It's been an
Speaker 1: awful stretch, but at least there's football to uh keep
Speaker 1: my mind off things. By the way, thanks for all
Speaker 1: laughing at my dad's story about him checking out before
Speaker 1: the washing. Really appreciate that. I heard it on your program.
Speaker 1: I heard it the first. It was a very hard felt.
Speaker 1: Final segment on Tuesday was very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I like the move, the moving watch football. Oh the
Speaker 1: moving the wrong way. I would like as a tribute
Speaker 1: to my Jesus Christ, they're moving the wrong way. Any
Speaker 1: two consecutive negative plays, Todd your last, what do you got?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna just hope Jimmy G's okay and
Speaker 1: take the Niners. What do you have the Niners at thirteen?
Speaker 1: I got some at uh, let me see, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: twelve and a half. What do we have here? At circle. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take twelve. Hold on, I'm not giving you that yet.
Speaker 1: Hold on one second. I mean I see twelve and
Speaker 1: you give me twelve. Okay, Now, I'll think the Niners
Speaker 1: minus twelve and a half. Um, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: a Jimmy g fan. I think he makes too many mistakes.
Speaker 1: But against a team that stinks, he can look amazing. Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's just see the Atlanta game a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: where they just moved up and down the field at will.
Speaker 1: I think they've got way too much for Houston. I
Speaker 1: think Houston they played their game of the year last week,
Speaker 1: and now they're going to go back to their typical
Speaker 1: I don't see Houston scoring more than seven points in
Speaker 1: this game. I'm with Mikey. I'm not a Mills fan.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a Mills fan at Stanford. I'm not a
Speaker 1: Mills fan now. I think he's ridiculous. So if Houston
Speaker 1: Texans get seven, all I need from Jimmy Gee's get
Speaker 1: me twenty one. So I'll take the Niners minus twelve
Speaker 1: and a half. Niners minus twelve and a half. What
Speaker 1: doesn't my brother get about that? I'm doing a podcast
Speaker 1: right now. Um, okay, all right, what are we at?
Speaker 1: Teaser of the week. Oh, this is where Todd wishnev
Speaker 1: rules supreme and must go first. You must go first, Todd.
Speaker 1: You must go first because I will not duplicate whatever
Speaker 1: you have. Okay, did you want to let well the first?
Speaker 1: Usually we let the correct go first. I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: will no problem? Uh yeah, really not a great teaser week.
Speaker 1: I think teasers have been pretty profitable this week. This
Speaker 1: week it was kind of agonizing to try to find one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Chargers, and I'm gonna tea
Speaker 1: that with reluctantly the Seahawks. I just think Jared Goff
Speaker 1: outdoors could be an issue, might be Russell Wilson's final
Speaker 1: game in Seattle, and I just for all the reasons
Speaker 1: you guys mentioned Aboutdrew Lock, I don't see Denver beating
Speaker 1: the Chargers, so I'll go Charger seat offs. Here in
Speaker 1: the two teams, there is not a single Stanford Wong
Speaker 1: hey k John Ferguson tweet teaser like this week, not
Speaker 1: a single one at least. Well that might give you
Speaker 1: guys hopes to to catch up on me, because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go l A Chargers as well. I'm with Will
Speaker 1: on that one. I think, you know, last week was bad.
Speaker 1: I think they can somehow get a win against true Lock.
Speaker 1: And then the second one, I'm just gonna go, Look,
Speaker 1: when in doubt go against kirk Cousins. I'll take the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers minus a half at home against the
Speaker 1: kirk Cousins. I mean, is there any feeling in the
Speaker 1: world that gives you more um comfort than going against
Speaker 1: who who I call Philip Rivers Jr. Kirk Cousins or
Speaker 1: if you have him, is there any more feeling of
Speaker 1: dread than going with Kirk Cousins. There's nothing better than
Speaker 1: going against kirk Cousins. I just can't stand the guy,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think he's the most overrated, mediocre
Speaker 1: guy that ever was. I lauded Mikey for finally coming
Speaker 1: around after he was a big kirk Cousins fan. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a measure of a man who can can admit
Speaker 1: that they're wrong, And you admitted that you're wrong, So
Speaker 1: I I lauded you for that. Mikey. Kirk Cousins thinks
Speaker 1: give me green Bay minus a half. I sense it
Speaker 1: opening Michael, I sent it opening ahead. I think no,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna lose his teaser? You do, Yeah?
Speaker 1: Which which don't you like? I think his first one.
Speaker 1: I worry about the Chargers, I do, and I worry
Speaker 1: about Green Bay. I worry about both of them. I'll
Speaker 1: give you a little worried about pay I'll give you mine.
Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts basically teas down to a half a
Speaker 1: point against the Las Vegas Raiders. I believe that they're
Speaker 1: not they're They're more it's more like one and a half.
Speaker 1: I think, Ellie, what are you saying right now? Of
Speaker 1: it and a half? That's what I'm saying. What do
Speaker 1: you guys say? Alright? To one? Okay, we'll give you
Speaker 1: an Indie minus one Indie minus one against Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: paired with the Chicago Bears basically just having to beat
Speaker 1: the New York Football giants. Indie Chicago. Here comes the
Speaker 1: teaser come back as well. Mikey, I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of Brent Musburger. I know we we've heard on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Are you really a big big fan of Brent? Up?
Speaker 1: Would you like to do a brief invitation of how
Speaker 1: that went the first time I've I've never heard Mikey
Speaker 1: say anything about Brent Mussburger. Oh wait, wait, wait it's
Speaker 1: coming back to me. Oh yes, yes, yes, I do remember.
Speaker 1: He said something about how in nine four there was
Speaker 1: that time that Brent was able to predict the entire
Speaker 1: NFL schedule even though IRV Cross was distracting. An amazing job. Um,
Speaker 1: what number do you have Todd on Bill's falcons? Those falcons?
Speaker 1: I've got four teen and a half most places. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I have to be unconventional. Wow,
Speaker 1: I have to be unconventional here because I have to
Speaker 1: catch up his game theory. Yeah, Top's trying to find
Speaker 1: other games. Why doesn't he pick opposite us if he
Speaker 1: wants to make up if he goes first? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about in the spread, I want to take Mattie Ice,
Speaker 1: who played his college ball cold Weather Boston College, going
Speaker 1: up to Orchard Park. Give me twenty and a half
Speaker 1: with the dirty Birds, and then I'll go with Will
Speaker 1: and tease the Bengals up through the ten. There. That
Speaker 1: is Musburger esque A lot of value in seven to seventeen. Wow, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, so since plus eleven and the falcon and
Speaker 1: half okay. Yeah, by the way, how about North Can
Speaker 1: you make a stop in North Carolina? Third and one? No, no, no, shot.
Speaker 1: We don't want any stop by anyone and just continual.
Speaker 1: What's your total time and a half? You're gonna need
Speaker 1: to get there? All right, here's the dilli alright. So,
Speaker 1: by the way, status uncertain for Carson went still on Sunday,
Speaker 1: but they expect him to play for the Colts. Um
Speaker 1: final two questions of each and every megapod one, Which
Speaker 1: of the big favorites is the most likely to lose?
Speaker 1: Out right? Oh, we got a lot of choices here,
Speaker 1: We got a lot of choices. Um, I will include
Speaker 1: let's first of all, let's do one category of just
Speaker 1: the really big ones, right, the double digit ones. Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay thirteen and a half somewhere in that pocket, hosting
Speaker 1: the Jets, excuse me, on the road against the Jets,
Speaker 1: but still thirteen and a half point favorites, Buffalo fourteen
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites at home against Atlanta, New
Speaker 1: England sixteen and a half point favorites at home against Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: and San Francisco twelve and a half point favorites at
Speaker 1: home against Houston let's just take that group. And if
Speaker 1: I come to you from the future and I say
Speaker 1: one of those teams lose his will who's the team? Boy?
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna go out on a limb and I'll
Speaker 1: just say New England just because I don't know how
Speaker 1: many points are gonna score. Mac Jones has been a
Speaker 1: little up and down. I mean, I could see we
Speaker 1: don't really touch on that game. I don't know if
Speaker 1: anyone liked that game. I know Todd I think took
Speaker 1: the under. I just don't know how many points are
Speaker 1: gonna be in that game. And let's just say Mac
Speaker 1: turns it over for a touchdown. You know, Jacksonville defense
Speaker 1: is pretty good. You know, can Jacksonville feel a twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen game? I'll actually say Jacksonville believe it or not? Wow,
Speaker 1: New England team most likely to lose that, right, Mikey
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay doesn't have the three best players.
Speaker 1: Don't think on the road. They're on the road. I didn't,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't. I don't think any of them,
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna take a shot there. Dodd, I
Speaker 1: don't think any of them either, But I'm sorry. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I had. Yeah, well, we might have to change
Speaker 1: this question and for the format for the next year
Speaker 1: to make it more entertaining. I don't really have an answer.
Speaker 1: I'll go with Tampa Bay people. People pick out that,
Speaker 1: I mean, Derek called the Lions beating the Cardinals, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's an interesting part of the show. Galer,
Speaker 1: I think you should of them too. I think you
Speaker 1: should stay with this format. This is uh, this is
Speaker 1: not up for debate. I don't know where we got
Speaker 1: the impression this was up for Todd's running the show
Speaker 1: next year. Apparently so Mike Evans, by the way, added
Speaker 1: to the next week. There's a whole new format next week.
Speaker 1: We're taping next week. We're taping the pod at one fifteen,
Speaker 1: and when we're endgame, we'll get our best three end
Speaker 1: games in the first quarter. You we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: whole new thing about bad organization that the first thing
Speaker 1: you ten minutes on the wolf tie. Okay, people would
Speaker 1: love to hear that. Sure, I'm going I'm going to
Speaker 1: say that the biggest of those favorites most likely to
Speaker 1: lose out right is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because they
Speaker 1: don't have their players they're not for net. They don't
Speaker 1: have Godwin. It looks like they might not have Evans.
Speaker 1: Now at this point, game cocks inside the five while
Speaker 1: you're way ahead of us. Just trap back here and
Speaker 1: they're inside the five. You're three seconds ahead of us. Jesus, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's because you're closer, because you're in Pittsburgh. The trade
Speaker 1: and spits across the direct. It's the direct, the cable.
Speaker 1: It's funny. I think a week or two before Bowl season,
Speaker 1: I said, just take the money line on the under
Speaker 1: the underdog on the money line. All these games of
Speaker 1: being in good shape. Of course I don't listen to
Speaker 1: my own advice. This is probably a plus three hundred
Speaker 1: money line here with South Carolina. They're killing the plus
Speaker 1: three fifty five closed here will plus three plus three
Speaker 1: fifty five. It closed at circa thirteen thirteen, closed with
Speaker 1: plus three fifty. Man, Well, I got my South Carolina
Speaker 1: at minus money because I didn't take it. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you wait until they were up. I'm sorry. You know what,
Speaker 1: what do you like minus what? I think it was
Speaker 1: like my minus two hundred when I got it. That's
Speaker 1: not bad. The the overs have been great in the
Speaker 1: Bulls that that's been the easiest money. You just look
Speaker 1: for these games that are that you see a couple
Speaker 1: of scores early, and just pound those overs because they
Speaker 1: just never stopped scoring in these bowl games. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Can I do a part B of that question? By
Speaker 1: the way, the second tier? All right, who's the most
Speaker 1: likely to lose? Of the six and a half ish
Speaker 1: kind of favorite? So Indianapolis hosting Vegas, Chicago six point
Speaker 1: favorites hosting the Giants, Dallas six point favorites hosting Arizona,
Speaker 1: New Orleans six and a half point favorites hosting Carolina
Speaker 1: and let us oh and the Chargers six and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites hosting Denver and Seattle seven point favorites
Speaker 1: hosting Detroit and green Bay, seven point favorites Hosty in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: That's a whole group. Who's the most likely lose outright?
Speaker 1: Of those? Dallas, Todd I grew with Mikey. I think Dallas.
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna come in nice, fat and happy
Speaker 1: after their gigantic win over what most people would call
Speaker 1: a minor league football team, and uh, and then you know,
Speaker 1: throw a a stinker against Arizona. I'll be a little different.
Speaker 1: I'll say green Bay, Minnesota actually has played them tough.
Speaker 1: They've beaten in the last two. They wanted Lambeau last year,
Speaker 1: Cook ran for a million touchdowns. They won this year
Speaker 1: earlier in Minnesota one. You know, it's funny. Green Bay's
Speaker 1: not really built for their own environment. I know they're
Speaker 1: indefeated at home, but if it's minus five degrees, they're
Speaker 1: a passing team. If you get some wins, could be
Speaker 1: more of a running game, and that favors the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Kings actually could take the field here as bad as
Speaker 1: they've been. If Washington up said Philly, Minnesota could take
Speaker 1: the field controlling their own destiny where they only need
Speaker 1: to beat Green Bay and beat Chicago the last week
Speaker 1: to get in. I'll be different. I'll say green Bay
Speaker 1: as a chance the highest supposed to be three degrees.
Speaker 1: Fahreneit for that game at kickoff three degrees wind chill
Speaker 1: feeling more like you're in the negative range. I'll say
Speaker 1: it's Dallas just because it's Arizona on the other side.
Speaker 1: But I totally get what Will is saying. I do not.
Speaker 1: That was the thing about that green Bay Cleveland game
Speaker 1: on Saturday, was thinking about the four picks from Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield the plus four in turnovers, and green Bay barely
Speaker 1: got by. They still needed to endure last drive and really,
Speaker 1: by the way, those who had Cleveland got the cover.
Speaker 1: The biggest play of that game to get the cover
Speaker 1: arguably was that Kevin Stefanski down nine was willing to
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth and twenty two, which likely
Speaker 1: he's not gonna yet, and green Bay would have had
Speaker 1: the ball in relatively good field position, might have covered.
Speaker 1: But it was a phantom false start on the on
Speaker 1: the Browns and then four the extra. Yeah, they punted
Speaker 1: and they stopped and they ended up getting the garbage
Speaker 1: touchdown one I didn't wasn't garbage because it could have
Speaker 1: been a game winning uh cog also, but they get
Speaker 1: the cover with that. I just think that game made
Speaker 1: green Bay look really shaky to me. The ball, I mean,
Speaker 1: they don't get the ball back, the very uncaristic. Really,
Speaker 1: remember the analytics say fourth and two and four and
Speaker 1: seven are completely different, and we know in the analytics
Speaker 1: world you have been you know, very vociferous people not
Speaker 1: realizing that difference. It's completely different. Did you catch did
Speaker 1: you catch on my guys in the desert this weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the odds are that you didn't. But
Speaker 1: Brent came on with Fami because Stormy's out doing the
Speaker 1: Bowl games with Rod Gilmore. That's another story in itself
Speaker 1: how he gets Bowl games. But anyhow, Brent came on
Speaker 1: to remember John Madden and and he said, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that Madden didn't use any of the statistical geek
Speaker 1: stuff that's taken over the broadcast. Now where where where
Speaker 1: has it taken over the broadcasts? Where has how that
Speaker 1: statistics stuff taken over the broadact. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: much of being taken over the broadcast. I mean last
Speaker 1: last night on fourth and sixteen from the two you know,
Speaker 1: Andrea where with three minutes ago was sure that they
Speaker 1: should punt the ball away. So, by the way, some
Speaker 1: of the things that these color people say are just
Speaker 1: god breathtaking, I mean breathtaking. And you're just like, how
Speaker 1: does it doesn't ESPN make them do like a fake
Speaker 1: game before they go on and do and do the
Speaker 1: you know, you have to be able to listen. I
Speaker 1: guess it's just there's so many games and they figure, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's a guy didn't play offensive line. And I will stay.
Speaker 1: I'll throw him in there. You must be pretty good.
Speaker 1: I didn't much rather have me and Mike Palm do
Speaker 1: these games than some of these idiots that they have
Speaker 1: doing the game. It's incredible, and when they do want
Speaker 1: to go for it's always the stupidest reason. I was
Speaker 1: watching Clemson Iowa State and was like fourth in the
Speaker 1: foot from the plus thirty five, and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: you're just coming out of the locker room, so I
Speaker 1: think you have to go for us. Like, how about it?
Speaker 1: It's fourth in the foot? What to do you're coming
Speaker 1: out in the locker room. The great the greatest was
Speaker 1: still that Army game, tiffany Uh. That's the gold standard
Speaker 1: all broadcast about be compared to it, by the way.
Speaker 1: And here's one other thing. Why does everyone put their
Speaker 1: foot in the ground. He put his foot in the
Speaker 1: ground and just came up. Where else does he put
Speaker 1: his foot in the air. It's just put everybody's putting
Speaker 1: their foot in the ground and going north south. If
Speaker 1: I here put the foot in the ground one more time,
Speaker 1: and one more thing. If I see the little girl
Speaker 1: with the A T T commercial that's mad that she
Speaker 1: didn't get the right lollipop. I'm going to blow my
Speaker 1: head up. I have seen the A T. T commercial
Speaker 1: with the little girl who goes, it's not fair get
Speaker 1: the the wrong lollipop, because they're saying that they give
Speaker 1: everybody the good deals on It's on every commercial, every
Speaker 1: single thing to the army. Who was Army playing Missouri?
Speaker 1: And where do we begin that that way? Begin with
Speaker 1: the five minute opening before they God, I didn't see
Speaker 1: that we were all prime time actually, but they care
Speaker 1: the last sequence of that game. First of all, both
Speaker 1: in both directions. Well, first of all, the refs were ridiculous,
Speaker 1: like they were just granting. First did you did you
Speaker 1: see in the Iowa State Clepson game they marked the
Speaker 1: first down, they went back and looked at o't it's
Speaker 1: third and four and four yards to spot yard? The
Speaker 1: Army was the game. The last two drives, they're like
Speaker 1: close enough, like a yard and a half there, Like yeah. First,
Speaker 1: the other thing, if the reason these people were getting
Speaker 1: the jobs is for affirmative action, which I don't think
Speaker 1: it is, but let's say it was. Don't me and
Speaker 1: Mikey deserve an affirmative action for fat people? Fat people
Speaker 1: call instantly get ragged on constantly, and me and Mikey
Speaker 1: deserve you know, affirmative action for that, right Mikey, well
Speaker 1: that took a turn, no comment. He doesn't like being
Speaker 1: thrown in that group about this woman wh the NFL
Speaker 1: networker was gone with the letter nimoy start Star Trek Enterprise.
Speaker 1: Look right here, that's amazing. Okay. Uh back to the
Speaker 1: final final question, by the way, of those games in
Speaker 1: the six and a half seven point favorites, did we
Speaker 1: go through that? Yeah we didn't. Oh yeah. And then
Speaker 1: I apologize Mikey for throwing even the affirmative action group.
Speaker 1: I thought I was more fitted by the fat group
Speaker 1: than the affirmative action. That's what I'm talking about. I
Speaker 1: don't affirmative action for fat people. Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't consider myself fat. Okay, sorry, I'm sorry. Finally, if
Speaker 1: we lived in a bizarre world, we had to pick
Speaker 1: a spread. We had the better spread, had to play
Speaker 1: each and every one of these games on the side,
Speaker 1: except for one, one game you want no part of.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't even bet it with Wishnev's money. What would
Speaker 1: that game be? Will oh Man? I got a list
Speaker 1: of them outland here on New Orleans and Carolina. You
Speaker 1: guys can have that one. I got no interest, DoD uh.
Speaker 1: I don't like a lot of these games. I don't
Speaker 1: want any part of the Bears and the Giants too
Speaker 1: horrendous teams. Mikey, I don't want any part of this
Speaker 1: Steelers Browns Monday night game. I mean, I think one
Speaker 1: thing we haven't really talked about this year is how
Speaker 1: did Mike Tomlin win seven games with the awful It's
Speaker 1: an organization that's amazing when you look at this roster,
Speaker 1: how bad they are and how bad ben is that
Speaker 1: they won seven games. It's it's not the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Poor Naji Harris but hung out to dry because we
Speaker 1: can't block for the past, we can't block for the run.
Speaker 1: It's our offensive line. If we had a decent offensive line,
Speaker 1: bent would not be that bad. Some of this is
Speaker 1: on him, Todd Okay Ris, you know, he's he's two
Speaker 1: up and down. He's he you know, he needs a
Speaker 1: big hole like they opened for a minut in the ground. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Well, you put Nagy Harris on Tennessee
Speaker 1: or Indie Colts. He runs for as much as these
Speaker 1: guys Jonathan Taylor and all these other idiots. Trust me,
Speaker 1: Nagi Harris is a star if you gave not quite
Speaker 1: as much as Jonathan Taylor, Flay, Flicker, Howell up the top,
Speaker 1: touchdown a lot, he's over, he's getting there. But the Mike,
Speaker 1: the overs and the bulls have been fantastic. You notice
Speaker 1: something in these Bowl games, Todd. If you're betting live,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't push the fourth quarter betting live because these
Speaker 1: teams are like taking nine minutes off the clock to
Speaker 1: end games against bad teams, and they're just they're totally
Speaker 1: do it like you have to do it late first quarter,
Speaker 1: early second quarter when you realize the scoring. In fact,
Speaker 1: some of them I did him just first half totals
Speaker 1: over there. There's some good spots with like eleven minutes left.
Speaker 1: If it's like the end game, it's more than seven
Speaker 1: and a half to go under in these spots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you have to be careful. You have to be careful.
Speaker 1: Thirty two to nineteen Carolina deciding to what are they
Speaker 1: gonna do down just going for two to cut because
Speaker 1: they think surely there won't be that many more scores
Speaker 1: in the game. Um it, Todd. Second the pitch he
Speaker 1: pitched the boy he's got the corner he's in now
Speaker 1: he's they're kicking off in Pittsburgh already. By the way,
Speaker 1: a great story on that one time I had. I
Speaker 1: had a cable set up in my house with direct
Speaker 1: TV on a different TV, and me and my friend
Speaker 1: are watching the pit Syracuse game, and I said to him,
Speaker 1: I'll bet you three hundred to one they blocked the
Speaker 1: extra point, and and of course they did block the
Speaker 1: extra point, and my friend thought, oh my god. And
Speaker 1: then I did it again later in the later in
Speaker 1: the in the game, and I kept making these predictions,
Speaker 1: and he was like, he didn't understand how I was
Speaker 1: doing it. Every time I'm like ten seconds ahead of him.
Speaker 1: He couldn't because I had there was a little TV
Speaker 1: that was on cable that he didn't see, and he's
Speaker 1: watching the directivity. He thought. I was like some kind
Speaker 1: of nostrodamus. It was what were you doing hanging out
Speaker 1: with Jeff George? Jeff George, It's like pass posting you
Speaker 1: on a Series seven. By the way, you're correct, that's
Speaker 1: the game. I want no part of Pittsburgh in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: none whatsoever, and wouldn't be just on brand for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: To win that game, just like you said, like everything
Speaker 1: could happen because he cannot have a losing here Tom alone,
Speaker 1: We'll not do it. Just so you know, guys, I've
Speaker 1: been to two Steeler games. Both games came down to
Speaker 1: the end. It was the Bears game in the Seattle game.
Speaker 1: Both games went all the way to to the buzzer.
Speaker 1: So this one will probably go to the buzzer as well.
Speaker 1: You pick the right two games to go to, Todd,
Speaker 1: I'll give you that the best. I can only go.
Speaker 1: I can only go to standalone games. You know, Like,
Speaker 1: how could anyone go to a game when there's eight
Speaker 1: games going on it? Since I don't even understand the concept,
Speaker 1: I agree completely. I'm like, I'd love to go to
Speaker 1: a standalone game, but these other ones, they no pe
Speaker 1: Well offered me to go all the time to Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 1: Like Sunday afternoon, there's seven other games on what are
Speaker 1: you crazy? My favorite Todd wishnev in the House experience
Speaker 1: is not only his stories of a college basketball games
Speaker 1: here in town during Thanksgiving weekend, but the the Pirates
Speaker 1: game you went? Was it a Pirates game? What White
Speaker 1: Sox game? Did you Pirates? I was in the front
Speaker 1: row and talking to the Todd. I got Tim Anderson
Speaker 1: to yell at me. Todd is behind the dugout and
Speaker 1: he's waving runners and it's on ESPN. I'm like, let's
Speaker 1: fucking wishev right there? Tim Anderson. Tim Anderson hits a
Speaker 1: ball off the right field wall and ends up with
Speaker 1: a single, like something Albert Pooholes would do, and I
Speaker 1: am screaming at the top of my lungs. Timmy, you
Speaker 1: know you should have been on second. By the time
Speaker 1: he gets around the third, he's like cursing back at me,
Speaker 1: which is hysterical because you never get these guys to
Speaker 1: react back that he was so mad at me. Didn't
Speaker 1: one of the players ask you, what are the pirates?
Speaker 1: Tyler Anderson? Because I'm literally sitting on the front room
Speaker 1: behind the duck. I'm literally ten ft from the pirates
Speaker 1: because they're all standing on the front of the dugout.
Speaker 1: And Tyler Andrews, because I'm talking about my over, he goes, well,
Speaker 1: what bets do you have? Tyler Anderson's asking me Ben Gamble.
Speaker 1: They're all asking me what I have? How much did
Speaker 1: you bet on the over? How much did you bet
Speaker 1: on the under it was it was absolutely asking you
Speaker 1: with amusement or they're genuinely interested in like learning or
Speaker 1: what are they? What are they? Just like what they
Speaker 1: were because I was talking about it the whole game
Speaker 1: with my loudness and they were And so they turn
Speaker 1: they turned around and they're like, well, so what do
Speaker 1: you have? Like I don't understand. Do you have the
Speaker 1: over like he's asking me because I had team totals
Speaker 1: on on them over. But by the way, I went
Speaker 1: to the pitt Jacksonville game, huge crowd, probably five people there,
Speaker 1: and I was screaming my head off for that one too.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you ever thought about trying to
Speaker 1: get the end games prior to you know, if you're
Speaker 1: at the game, you can't really beat them. That that's
Speaker 1: I don't know how, And maybe you would know the
Speaker 1: answer to this deal because it's a very interesting question.
Speaker 1: How did the books get the in game information as
Speaker 1: if they were at the game, because they have a
Speaker 1: feed they're getting a feed service. Somebody's there there, there's
Speaker 1: they've what is that? That's what I'm asking you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is that service? I know a person, That's all
Speaker 1: you need to say, Yes, person, I know that person,
Speaker 1: the person that is able to at a certain baseball
Speaker 1: park in southern California rhymes with fete folk smealed where
Speaker 1: where they were where they were going to play the
Speaker 1: Holiday Bowl. Yes, um, that that claims that you can
Speaker 1: get these live bets in a pitch ahead and he's
Speaker 1: able to win. Typically you have the typically before the
Speaker 1: inning start, first pitch of an inning. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's very it's very difficult. They're they're on it really
Speaker 1: really tight decide about something. I understand. I'm saying, well,
Speaker 1: that's That's the reason I brought that up is because
Speaker 1: when you're at the game and you see these lines
Speaker 1: constantly changed, especially in basketball, you know on three pointers
Speaker 1: and stuff, you would think, oh you could, you know,
Speaker 1: you see the three go in. The problem is the
Speaker 1: thing circles on most most betting places, they circle for
Speaker 1: two or three seconds and you can't get it. But
Speaker 1: it's very interesting. Yeah, this spin. This spin. By the way,
Speaker 1: what you can do if you can be on Twitter
Speaker 1: right before these college bowl games and sometimes the NFL
Speaker 1: games kickoff, and you could just Twitter search whatever team
Speaker 1: name you know, South Carolina coin toss and you just
Speaker 1: can't hit and refreshed, and sometimes you'll get a result
Speaker 1: of who's receiving the kickoff, and you can get at
Speaker 1: the first quarter, first half before they updated comes. That's good.
Speaker 1: That is actually I know people. I know people that
Speaker 1: were all over that. I don't actually do that one,
Speaker 1: but I know a lot of people who do that one.
Speaker 1: Is it good for North Carolina if they give up
Speaker 1: eight yards every first sound? Is that a good strategy? Well,
Speaker 1: that's why that's why I bet South Carolina in game.
Speaker 1: In this game. If you can't stop the running of
Speaker 1: Bowl games, you're gonna have a hard time, all right,
Speaker 1: Max coaching them up back back? Max does that he
Speaker 1: doesn't want Man is that he's not a light? Man
Speaker 1: is good? Man is absolutely disgusting. Gentlemen, Thank you, will
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man, I really appreciate you doing double duty today.
Speaker 1: Any time, guys appreciate it, I'd be happy to come
Speaker 1: on again. Thank you. A friend texted me, they said,
Speaker 1: who's the guest today? I said, it's the Will Hill.
Speaker 1: They said, ah, the poor man's Josh Apple Obama. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's worse than me. That's worse than me calling you.
Speaker 1: Fact it is, it's really below the belt. I agree
Speaker 1: with that. I Apolomi No, it's nothing nothing against Josh,
Speaker 1: it's just will as Will. No. I am against Josh,
Speaker 1: but at not the will hill th E on Twitter,
Speaker 1: thank you what happened last week at the end of
Speaker 1: the show. You you did this, I want a clutiful
Speaker 1: thing about God and now you're against Applebaum. I'm not
Speaker 1: against app Obama. I just don't like where you have
Speaker 1: twelve theories and one of them is going to come
Speaker 1: in the game and you say, see, but what about
Speaker 1: good will towards me? I'm gonna give a goodwill here
Speaker 1: to close the show. I'm gonna give some goodwill. And
Speaker 1: you know, you know I I lost my dad in
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, and there's not a day that goes
Speaker 1: by I don't think about him and the fact that
Speaker 1: he never got to see my children and that and
Speaker 1: I miss him tremendously. Everything that I get, my love
Speaker 1: of sports and entertaining and comedy comes through him, and
Speaker 1: I often I often think, in a time like this
Speaker 1: for you about Robert Frost and how he concluded his
Speaker 1: poem Relucan Reluctance, and when, to the heart of man
Speaker 1: was it ever less than a treason, to go with
Speaker 1: the flow of things, to yield with a grace, to reason,
Speaker 1: to bow and accept the end of a love or
Speaker 1: a season. Our thoughts and prayers are with you, my friend.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike, thank you very much. I will not
Speaker 1: be here next week because right at the moment that
Speaker 1: we record the podcast, uh, we will be having the
Speaker 1: burial service. So Mikey and Todd will do the show.
Speaker 1: You guys will have your guests. I appreciate that. I
Speaker 1: am honored that you would do that. So there will
Speaker 1: be a week a team mega pod with those guys
Speaker 1: with you guys, completely new format. Apparently with a completely
Speaker 1: new format. I can't control that. Also, also gils oh
Speaker 1: and three in his picks because he can't submit anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll have to. I have to send him in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to like be in the
Speaker 1: frame of mind to give him to you that day,
Speaker 1: So I'll have to give him to you a couple
Speaker 1: of days before. Well, Gilly, it's like a bowl game,
Speaker 1: you know, when they put in one of these coaches
Speaker 1: like Stoops who comes out of nowhere, you know, to
Speaker 1: do the last game. It's the same idea, you know,
Speaker 1: you bring in Todd wishing Evan mighty Palm to run
Speaker 1: the last one. Apple won't be the guest. I will
Speaker 1: be back for the wild card round. Thank you all
Speaker 1: for listening, Good luck with all your bets. Week seventeen
Speaker 1: in the National Football League,