WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2021 NFL MegaPod Week 17 Preview 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:13.680 Check it down, Man Down Thursday morning, December one, and 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.639 is the Beating the Book podcast megabot live from the 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:23.360 d week seventeen of the National Football League season Gill Alexander, 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.320 of course, flanked by the staples of the show, Derek 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:28.680 Stevens Conciliarium. By the way, thank you for Brian Derek 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.000 on last week. He's the vice president of Operations and 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.040 Circuit Sports. He's also the co host of odds on 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:38.720 at VS in Michael Palm, how you doing, Mike, good morning. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.520 I hope everyone had a great holiday season and looking 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:46.720 forward too. Of the listeners, I mean sorry sorry of 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.720 course expressed our condolences to you, and I know the 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.000 fans mean a lot to you and you're you're here 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.440 right now fulfilling this obligation at the most terrible time. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.160 Thank you. I for those who don't know if those 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.040 who listen to this podcast, who have heard my invitations 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.920 of my father through the years, both not only Beating 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.080 the Book podcast, but also on the Betting Dork podcast 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:11.720 before that. My father passed away this past weekend. Um 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:15.080 because my mom had COVID, we have delayed the burial 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.800 till next week. So you you and Todd will kindly 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.640 step in into the podcast next week. I really appreciated 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.800 uh doing me that honor. But yes, so that's what 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.679 Mikey is referring to. For those who may have missed that. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.680 Thank you, Sir Todd Wishnev from his mom's cork Addict 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:37.600 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Toddy, thank you for being here. You're 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.120 you keep turning to the left, which means you have 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.399 bets on the South Carolina North Carolina Bowl game. Your 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.640 bets are what I have over sixty one and a 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.160 half and I have South Carolina on the money line, um, 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.559 because I did in game both of them eight to ten. Currently, 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.280 as we record this and our guest today are rotating guests, 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.840 first time ever on the Mega Pod. He is not 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.400 only a Visa staple, but he's the host of the 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:07.280 New York City Cast podcast wherever podcasts are available, The 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.280 New York City Cast it is, and don't get confused 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.000 with the actual sports book. His name is Will Hill. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.519 How you do it? Will? What's going on? Gil? Thank 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.160 you for having me? Uh. I know a lot of 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.320 listeners said I'm gonna be like Ian book today my 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.240 first appearance on I don't know if that was a 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.600 compliment or an insult, but I'm gonna take that didn't 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.000 sound very good. By the way, is the first time 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.840 I've ever seen you without a coat and tie, So 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.080 congratulations on that as well. What is the logo? I 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:33.840 can't tell. I can't tell what the logo is on 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.600 your thing? Oh okay, there you go. I couldn't see 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.920 this for Lombardi Line. There you go, will through the 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:46.799 Lombardi Line program. Yes he's one of the Yes, he's 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.760 one of the spinoff hosts, they say on Visa. You know, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.520 he had a role on the Lombardi Line and now 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.680 he has his own, his own pop so he he's 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.519 like the the flow of Alice. For instance, he or 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.040 maud I compare more to maaud rode up rota, right, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:05.040 that kind of thing. Uh? What else are to to? Seven? Was? 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.320 That part was? J K was terrific, terrific in there. Sure, 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.280 Uh well, happy to have you here, Thank you for 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.040 doing this. So before we get into our picks, first 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.840 of all, Circus Survivor Michael, Oh my god, we're down 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.040 to five and then there were five. There was a 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.280 moment in time where if maybe Nick Chubb hadn't got 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.400 ejected from the game with a minute ago, that it 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.560 could have been a scoop for for him. I mean, 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.040 that's what I asked. I assumed Nick Chubb got ejected 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.600 and that's why after he was gashing the Packers for 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.760 ten and twelve yards on every kerry and they had 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.000 three time outs with a minute to go at midfield, 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.000 that you didn't see him again, but d NP coach's decision. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.120 Coach's decision. But you know that's the Fansky decided to 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:47.760 dance with the one that didn't bring him and then 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.040 they put the ball in Baker's hands. But yeah, the 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.800 interesting thing I wanted to preface this with Gil was 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.160 you said it only mattered if you had multiple entries 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.080 going into this Thursday Saturday Christmas window, and no, but 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.240 he did. Nobody did. Nobody did. There were sixteen Obviously 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.120 those eight that still had the Packers were in an 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:09.000 advantageous position and they got through luckily after green Bay 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.760 only scored three points in the second half. Interesting that 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.800 Thursday night game. You know, if you didn't have green Bay, 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.240 it came down to did you want to take San 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.520 Francisco on the road. The Titans at home are Arizona 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:21.880 at home, and I mean the move was all on 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.240 Arizona with the Colts offensive line trouble, so you know, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.400 three go out with the forty niners in the game 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.800 that looked like they had total control of that one 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.760 person return of survivors his entry name. He advanced and 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.160 had a shot at the Packers lost on Saturday to 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.200 scooped the whole six million. By the way, he has 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.360 the Buccaneers left, so he would have continued to play 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.320 on for two more weeks to try to earn the 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.280 extra million if he had even won the six at 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.120 that point. But then three go out on the Cliff 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:50.200 Kingsbury Christmas Classic in the desert on Saturday night, leaving us. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:54.480 Then with nine heading into Sunday, and four were eliminated 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.040 with the Chargers loss to detections, and then there were 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.560 five five had the Chargers available. Four of the five 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.560 took him. One person who had the Chargers decided, I'm 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.960 gonna take the Eagles. This doesn't feel right that that 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.680 guy is the happiest man alive. And of the remaining five, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:16.680 so three took the Eagles, two took the Falcons, and 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.720 the two that took the Falcons one of them was 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.120 your aforementioned return of survivor, who had the Buccaneers available 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.320 and decided without their three players, despite being a double 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.040 digit favorite, he was going to take the Falcons against Detroit. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.040 The other person had the Bengals available, who took the Falcons. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.039 He decided to take the Falcons, and of course Tim 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.520 Boyle's gift at the end at the ten yard line 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.719 was what sealed that deal. And so I guess the 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.320 question here with these last five is with two weeks left, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.080 what as you said, one has Tampa Bay still left? 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.120 But he already he already eschewed them, if you will. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.120 For the Falcons, He's talked to Jeff Benson, and through 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.640 conversations with Jeff about different things, were pretty certain he's 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.840 saving them for if he didn't use this last week. Yeah, right, 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.240 I think this week everybody, All five have Seattle if 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.039 you want to if you want to take them against 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.680 the Lions, although that could be dicey, but two of 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.200 them have San Francisco. It's a point home favorite against 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.920 the Texans. Albeit Jimmy g in the hand and all 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.320 says he's confident he can go. So yeah, So two 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.279 of the five have San Francisco available. It should be 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.760 pointed out that no of the big favorites, nobody has 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:29.120 New England, nobody has Indianapolis, nobody has Buffalo. Uh so 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.840 to have San Francisco. One has the Tampa but he's 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.000 already indicated by his actions that he's going to save them. 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.200 And then it goes down. So so the two people 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.960 have San Francisco against Houston. What could possibly go wrong? Right? 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.640 The other three if the guy's not gonna use Tampa 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.480 Bay have to then knock it down to the six 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.920 and a half point range, which is the Bears, Seahawks, 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.800 and Saints of the World. And they're well, what else 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.560 are they gonna do? Though, two people have no choice 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.800 what to take one of them. If it's not Seattle, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.520 I think it has to be the Bears. But now 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.040 is glenn and back for the will would know more 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.800 than is Glennon gonna start for the Giants Sunday? First, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.400 it doesn't matter. Second, Joe Judges not in the middle. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.440 He's playing this you know game where you know, but 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.560 we'll have both guys prepared. Neither one belongs in the NFL. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.559 I mean they threw forty four passes for a hundred 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.800 yards last week. It's really they don't have an NFL 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.160 quarterback at this point, and so and so about the 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.000 question of so each one of these has a little 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.160 last thing. Each one has an intrinsic value of one 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.960 point two million dollars at this point. The remaining five 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.920 six million dollar pot. But three, the one guy with 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.360 Tampa Bay and the two that have Kansas City available 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.840 have this ability to to use them in the final week. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.320 This was a stipulation before the season started that if 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.600 you go the distance and you have either Kansas City 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.840 or Tampa Bay last year's Super Bowl teams available, you 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.720 use them in week eighteen, the final week, the twenty week, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.880 if you will of circus survivor, you get a bonus million. Now, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.160 let me just ask you a question. If all five 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.760 got through, there is no bonus. There is there is 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.960 for those people. Let's say five got through in three 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:05.920 in the two US Kansas City one and they all 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.760 want yes, right, so those five each get one point 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.920 two million, and then the other three would get three thousand. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.000 They'd split that extra million. Okay, I just wanted to 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.040 clarify that, which is a nice spot to be. Let's 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.080 say you have Tampa Bay and they're what are sixteen 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.640 and a half point look ahead against Caroline. Caroline is 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.880 gonna be plus eight fifty year better on the money line, 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.480 you're now playing for one point five three million. That's 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.720 a pretty straight edge, right, I mean edge, perfect edge. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.280 But I'll tell you how many people do you think 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.200 get through in the end, because this is a tough 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.439 week about how about how about next week? You don't 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.480 know who, you really don't know who needs to play 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.240 for what right? And Kansas City might be dicey to use. 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.160 We saw what they did against the Chargers last year 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.000 when they have home field. You don't know about COVID. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.439 You don't know anything. You don't know, you don't know anything. Now, 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.720 one player parlay g that Derek thought was in the 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.840 best spot because of the teams he had left used 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.240 the Chargers last week, and he'd been coming. He's from 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:01.920 l A. He's uh Sauti J advisor for a biotech 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.040 company there. He's been flying in the last three weeks. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.680 On Sunday morning with his wife, he was down about 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:12.280 forty thousand, hedging so far right, losing keep going. He 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.640 took thirty thousand Texans plus four ninety thirty thousand Texas 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.800 plus twelve and a half right, so he picked up 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.400 one eighty. Essentially he'd lost forty. So he ends up 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.440 profiting a hundred and thirty seven thirty eight thousand on 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.480 getting a survivor right. So I mean, not bad, although 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.920 very Just like you said, it's really wasn't about the money. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.800 It was about the process that he was. He came 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.199 in when they got down to Scortons in the fourth quarter, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:37.840 he was here. He shook Derek's hand in my hand, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.640 said thanks for what a wonderful time, and we'll see 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.440 you next year. This one I said. When I got 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.720 knocked out, I'm like, it's not it's not even the 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.120 money you lose. It's not even the money you hope 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.160 to gain, although that's number two. It's it's the the 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.160 entertainment of it. It's the mental gymnastics. It's such a 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.640 great contest Las Vegas. Chris and I had a conversation 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.720 on air about it. I said to him, I said, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.000 I think the contest is perfect. I do. I think 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.320 it's perfect. In the end. I think Thanksgiving and Christmas 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.400 corks were great. Uh, Todd, I agree with you. I 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.920 agree with you. I like I like all the quirks. Yeah. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:15.760 Um Our records updated Sir Court stenographer Todd Wishnet. The 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.800 Iceman had a big week three and oh to move 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:25.840 to squarely ahead at twenty four and twenty four. He 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.199 was the man to beat Mikey moves to and one 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.040 with a nice two and one. I had a horrendous 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.440 oh and three to go to nineteen and twenty nine. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.839 What's funny is in my circule millions, I went four 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:38.520 and one last week to go to forty five and 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.680 thirty five, and I'm still not even getting I'm like 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.880 tied for eight hundred place. I'm going nowhere in the 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.600 circle millions, even if I know end up like it's 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.160 fifty eight percent or something and west or forty seven 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:50.840 and thirty three. We were talking about the same thing 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.040 this morning. I I've got no show. I know two people. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.880 I know one tied for sixteen and I know one 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.679 tied for twenty seconds. So interesting. Nice. It's also interesting 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:05.600 at first the Hannibal Barcas first and then a game 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.600 back is his other entry. He hasn't been splitting the 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.400 picks at all, right, Yeah, but also the guy tied 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.600 with him in second is also like tied for fifth. Right, 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.680 he has two injuries derbified could be wildly amazing. What 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.920 happens his last few weeks amazing on teasers. We now 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.559 move everyone one their teasers. So Gil and Mike your eight, 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.760 seven and one and I am ten and six on 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.480 the teaser side. So somehow we have to have Todd 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:36.760 lose three here. I don't think it's happening. He's very capable. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.880 Everyone's capable. We're all capable. He's too good, he's too sharp. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.240 All right, let us uh, let us there's no Thursday 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.679 game tonight, by the way, let's racially start with Thursday. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.280 By the way, why the NFL not figure on this? 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.240 So the NFL only has Thursday games through week six, 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.760 so there's no Thursday game tonight. You'll be entertained by 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.080 the Las Vegas bull instead. Uh. And I was talking 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.920 about this on the morning on the morning show on 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.880 the Numbers game this morning when Will was on. Actually 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.720 Will do a double duty, which is next week. So 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.120 so this week is the final Monday night game between 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:10.640 the Browns and the Steelers. By the way, Big Ben 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.240 says it might be his last game in hines Field. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.199 Will get I will be going to that game. So 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.280 if you're listening to this podcast and you know how 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.720 much I can affect the game by being at the 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.720 game and how loud I could be, especially with fifty 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.280 thousand other crazies, you should be aware of that. And 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.600 uh so that's the last Monday night regular season game 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.840 of the year. Now Week A teen the final regular 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.040 season game. Next week they are going to once Week 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:39.000 seventeen game games get finished, they're going to flex two 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.800 games to Saturday, and the rest of the games will 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.640 be played Sunday. There is no Monday night game next week. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.520 But when we were talking about this morning was by 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:53.320 doing that there could be some correlated parlay opportunities based 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.320 on playoff implications of the results of those Saturday games 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.200 whichever to they flex, so be sure to be aware 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:04.360 of that. And then wild Card week. Um, remember last 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.680 year was the first year they won seven teams for conference. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.720 It was three games on Saturday, three games on Sunday. 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.160 This year is the first year where they're doing it 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.800 two on Saturday, three on Sunday, and a Monday night er. 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.680 Do you prefer that? How about the team that comes 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.000 back on short rest? That so, what we're saying, I remember, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.000 remember when the Vikings have set the Saints on the 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.560 Sunday and then they had to come back and play 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.040 the one seed fort on the on the Saturday. I 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:29.760 thought they were in such a bad spot there with 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.160 the short rest and travel and all that. It's a 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.840 tough to be in that Monday night spot. So the 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.200 final week Saturday games, I assume are going to be 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:42.040 teams that are out of it because they always wanting. Yeah, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.040 they'll have to be. So then I have a question 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.040 for you. They used to do it where like everyone 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.200 was playing at the same time on the last weekend, 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.839 so nobody knew before. So I guess that's not gonna 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.280 happen if they're they're Saturday. Exactly what I was saying 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.640 this morning, that it used to be before they did 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.400 it all at the same time, that you could do 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.120 these great correlated Parley's books weren't even hip to it 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.160 right better early game. Based on the result of that, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.040 then you you know, might be able to catch a 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.719 team that won't be you won't have anything to play 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.040 for in the late game kind of thing. Yeah, and 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.720 then they legislated against that, but now it's a possibility again. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.760 So Yeah, that's what I was wondering, because I know 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.960 they used to do that thing where everybody playing at 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.440 the same time in the last weekend. Yeah, it's very 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.080 very interesting from from a Betty standpoint that regard. Okay, 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.240 so let us begin with the best bets. Will Hill, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.000 ladies and gentlemen from the New York City cast your 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:37.760 first best bet of week seventeen, Sir, Bengals plus four 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.320 and a half plus five. I'm not sure what what 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.760 lines were using here. I just think they're gonna be 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.480 right in this game. I'm surprised this is over a 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.480 field goal. Kansas City's win streak has really not impressed me. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.680 I mean the Raiders twice, the Broncos who moved the 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.520 ball up and down the field on I'm settling for, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.040 you know, no drives and no points in a ninety 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.880 five yard drive, all those kinds of things. Green Bay 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.640 without Rogers, the Giants getting the Dallas without their two 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.920 topers sievers to me, this is a back and forth game, 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.280 last team with the ball. I'm not opposed to and 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.920 over here either. I like the Bengals. Do you think 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:08.320 they've got a decent shot to win the game for 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.680 Bengals would be my best bat here. I I let 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.800 me just step in. I'm with Will. We found out 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.000 this morning that we were both on this game. I 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.720 like Cincinnati as well. You think about who has the 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.280 better wide receivers Bengals, Who has the better running back Bengals, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.200 Who has the better quarterback maybe Mahomes but not by much. Um, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.640 who's got the better tight at Kansas City. I just 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.080 think Cincinnati does, in fact, that they match up pound 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.200 for pound, score for score. You're giving me the points. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.280 This is the biggest game in Cincinnati, and how long 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.760 gotta be decades at this point? Isn't it my missing 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:45.360 a year with the Bengals. I think that what year 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.000 was it? Dalton might have hosted one of those playoffs 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:54.880 the Charger when it was fifty below one, Founts couldn't 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.160 hold the ball and Ken Anderson completed straight passes. I mean, 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.360 that's that's the game that came to mind. That's what 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.240 I'm thinking of, that cold game that the Ken Anderson. 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.640 The thing was with Marvin Harrison, he lost all those 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.240 games at home in the playoffs. He couldn't Marvin Jones, Yes, 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:14.080 Marvin Jones, Marvin Lewis he lost all those games. He 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:15.880 couldn't win a game, and so there was no big 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.600 game because they never got to the next round. Um, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.840 Marvin Lewis was Marvin Lewis terrific, terrific, terrific defensive. He 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.720 was good at getting them to the playoffs. He just 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.120 was the winning record. They won the divisional up and 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.000 they couldn't win a playoff game. So there must have 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.960 been big games in Cincinnati since then. So you're on, 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.760 I'm on the bank. What's the total here? You have, Todd? 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:40.960 Is a consensus? Yeah? You you tipped my hand here 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.120 will I'm My best bet is the over in this game. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.200 I think both these teams will go up and down 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.760 the field. Kansas City and this win streak has not 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:52.120 played in offense like this. And and look, I think 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.240 here in this game, this very easily is a is 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:58.360 a thirty one thirty one type game. I like getting 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.400 the points too, but it's not one of my us bet. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.680 So I'm over here on this game about Kansas City. Also, 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.399 if you look up and down their schedule current teams 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.840 in playoff position, they've won exactly three games. One of 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.400 them was Green Bay without Aaron Rodgers. One of them 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.560 was out Dallas without a Marii Cooper and the other 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.200 one was Philadelphia. Kansas City doesn't exactly have the greatest 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:21.520 resume here. Hey, to throw water on the everybody's chief 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.840 slurping Todd, what's your best bet? First one? Well, I've 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.680 been riding the Jaguars unders until the last two weeks 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.640 when I when I had the over and both them, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.359 but not in the picks here. But I knew to 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.200 stay away from those two overs. I'm gonna go back 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.439 to the Jags under again. Um now, because they're playing 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.320 the Patriots. I just don't think New England's gonna show 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:42.800 a hell hell of a lot. I think they're gonna 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.680 run the ball a tremendous amount like they've been doing 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.360 this entire season. Um, I can go under forty two here. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.840 I don't see the Jags getting more than seven. So 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.480 even at thirty seven I pushed, But how about thirty 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.400 four seven for the win? Um? I think it's going 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.240 under because I think New England is just gonna run 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.000 the ball and the Jacks aren't gonna score like like 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:06.040 typically they don't against any good defense. They usually only 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.080 can get seven to ten points. So I'll take Jacks 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.200 New England under forty two? Is that now the biggest 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.240 spread of the entire year? The New England Jacksonville game. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.520 I don't think we thought the Bills were like eighteen 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.879 against in Texas against the Texas, wasn't it against the 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:28.800 Texas Texas they went up like eighteen eighteen and a half? Yeah, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.760 because I know they weren't that against Jacksonville they were no, yeah, 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.640 oh yeah that and there was also that that one. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.080 Remember I did the ten point teaser to plus twenty eight, 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.639 so you're you're exactly right, Mike, it was a plus eighteen. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.000 You know, it's great for North Carolina on the fourth 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.040 and one to have a false start, that's all. I 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.840 think they're tanking this game so that Mac Brown doesn't 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.640 have the mayonnaise doust. He could die at his age. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.960 Can you think of a more disgusting thing to be 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:56.320 doused by? They actually got the coaches quotes before the game. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.480 Shane Biemer's like, I'm not really a mayo guy. I 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.000 don't know if you sometimes just made that up. Okay, 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:07.960 will your number two? Yeah, I'll go with the Titans. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:09.639 Three and a half might be up to four in 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.320 some spots look again, just another phony winning streak. When 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:14.960 you look at the Dolphins, alright, they beat Lamar on 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.760 that Thursday night, that's impressed it. But other than that, 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.440 it's Mike Glennon, It's Flacco, it's Tyrod Taylor, it's Ian 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.800 Book on Monday night. Is it's still a really bad 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.479 offensive line for Miami. The Titans have a major advantace 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.000 here in terms of the rest. They didn't play since 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.480 last Thursday. Miami had a short week. Monday night on 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.840 the road. Give me the Titans. Is it three or 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.720 three and a half? Toddy three and a half? Okay, 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.720 you still like it at three and a half? Yeah? 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.160 I mean the hook makes me nervous because I don't 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:41.640 think there's gonna be a whole lot of points here. 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.560 But I'm just gonna swallow and hope it doesn't burn me. 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.520 I think the Titans win thirteen that type of game. 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.640 I don't know how much Miami's gonna score here. Will 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.520 was on a Numbers game this morning and we learned 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.960 that we're on all the same damn games. I am 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.120