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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. Mark Vandermaer and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you as we keep a company out of

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Speaker 1: Tuesday here in advance of Texans matchup, which is the

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Speaker 1: greatest show in the world. Just it really is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Greatest show in the world might have been

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Speaker 1: a little overstated one of them, you know, to cover myself,

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Speaker 1: I should just say one of them, one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest shows in the world.

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Speaker 2: No understood, it's it's gonna be a good one.

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Speaker 3: Went back and looked at the ultimate eleven plays of

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Speaker 3: the win over the Airs on the Cardinals, and there

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Speaker 3: were a lot to pick from. So even there were

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Speaker 3: some things that ended up on the cutting room floor

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Speaker 3: is tough. And then figured, you know, Jackson Jaguars are

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Speaker 3: coming into town, so let's look back at that week

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Speaker 3: three wins. So I went back and listened to the

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Speaker 3: uh played the ultimate eleven plays from that win, which

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Speaker 3: number one.

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Speaker 1: Was tanked l third and eight Andrew Beck kickoff from

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Speaker 1: Andrew Beck. Of course, what am I saying? Drew's doing

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Speaker 1: a story on that on Andrew Beck's kickoff return for

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Speaker 1: a touchdown and how that was a real season changer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it really was. It really was.

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Speaker 3: And that picture you know, in our in our on

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Speaker 3: our service level, there are now these big screens that

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Speaker 3: are put up and it cycles through like various you

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Speaker 3: know pictures that have been taken by our photography crew,

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Speaker 3: like by z t Zach Tarrant, and there's some pictures

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Speaker 3: and there's one that is of Beck on that kickoff return,

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Speaker 3: and you I always just love the background of photos,

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Speaker 3: like looking at various people in the background. And I

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Speaker 3: remember when we asked the Miko about that kickoff return

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Speaker 3: by Beck, like what was he doing and he.

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Speaker 2: Said, wow, I was looking at the surface.

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Speaker 3: And then somebody started screaming and yelling about Beck's right

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Speaker 3: and you could see Demiko in the background like starting

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Speaker 3: to run after Beck with the surface in its hand,

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Speaker 3: and everybody's celebrating. And that's one of my favorite moments

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Speaker 3: of the year because it is such an unlikely touchdown

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Speaker 3: and I loved it because I remember you threw it

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Speaker 3: down to me right before that kickoff and I said,

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Speaker 3: they just become seventeen ten. And I remember saying, I

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Speaker 3: don't care how improbable it is. I don't care if

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Speaker 3: it's a George Fant catches a tackle lateral eligible screen

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Speaker 3: and goes to the distance for a touchdown. They need

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Speaker 3: to put points up on the board, and the very

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Speaker 3: next play, Andrew Beck drops the kickoff, picks it up,

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Speaker 3: runs through, everybody goes to the house, and you take

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Speaker 3: a twenty four to ten lead. And you just felt

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Speaker 3: that entire stadium. What just happened to us? It deflated

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Speaker 3: it deflated them all.

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Speaker 1: It was great. Oh sorry, so many angles to choose

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Speaker 1: from here, and we'll get into what has happened since

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Speaker 1: then and what might happen after this this game on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: which is the biggest game the Texans have ever played

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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars. I'm looking at their journey, Johnny, their journey, Johnny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And after that loss, they reel off five in a row.

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Speaker 1: Then they have the buye. They get hammered by the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers coming out of the bye. All of

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Speaker 1: this all the buy freshens you up. You get the

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Speaker 1: fresh legs. Look, the Texans lost to Carolina out of

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Speaker 1: their bye, and I'm not saying this happens every time.

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Speaker 1: And the Jaguars got drilled by the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: after their by at home, Yeah, at home home, And

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Speaker 1: I know the Niners needed it too, because they I

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Speaker 3: They lost three in a row. They lost three in

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Speaker 3: a row, They lost three in a row. They were

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Speaker 3: coming off of by as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and the Jags were fat and happy with

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Speaker 1: five wins in a row, and we're gonna take care

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Speaker 1: of the forty nine ers. No you're not, and you

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Speaker 1: get hammered thirty four to three. But then they beat

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Speaker 1: the Titans. The ship got righted with a twenty point

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Speaker 1: win against Tennessee. And I caught up with our buddy

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Speaker 1: Frank Franchie, voice of the Jaguars, and he said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Titans rebuilding. Forget about it, not happening this year.

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Speaker 1: We all feel that way. But hey, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to put it past any team to go on a run.

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Speaker 1: If suddenly Will Levis turns into CJ. Stroud, not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, here they are to take on the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: And how different are they? You think? I know we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about this with Nick tomorrow. I think

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Speaker 1: that they've definitely obviously they've improved. They've hit some kind

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Speaker 3: Don't know if they're If they're that different, you'll hear

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Speaker 3: tomorrow night on Texas All Access Nick Serry talk about

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Speaker 3: some of the changes. They've moved Walker Little into guard

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Speaker 3: instead of Ben Bartch, and that has that has been successful.

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Speaker 3: I think the other thing is they're they're not trying

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Speaker 3: to shoehorn plays into Calvin Ridley. They're just letting it

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Speaker 3: last weekgainst the Titans, he had seven catches for over

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Speaker 3: one hundred and two tudies, So you can start to

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Speaker 3: see the Calvin Ridley impact. Now, Ridley had trouble catching

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Speaker 3: He just had a few drops. He had a get

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Speaker 3: the things that'll be interesting is when they would get

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Speaker 3: Jamal Agnew. Agnew was a guy they would go to,

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Speaker 3: around so that you can't lean on him. They've got

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Speaker 3: a big deal though, But I think they're pretty similar.

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Speaker 3: They just have cleaned some things up and I think

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Speaker 3: just subtle changes in the lineup I think have have

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Speaker 3: done well by them. Here's another one to look at

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Speaker 3: I think Tyson Campbell at the end of last year

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Speaker 3: he has not played. He's been kind of in and

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Speaker 3: the Titans. They didn't think he was ready to go.

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Speaker 3: He was a DMP during the week in practice. So

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Speaker 3: that's a big one because he matches up or is

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Speaker 3: So that Tyson Campbell and Jamal Agnew it's two guys,

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Speaker 3: that'll be an interesting one to watch. And it's not

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Speaker 3: as if the Texans aren't one hundred percent, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, healthy.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're gonna have a couple guys that are

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Speaker 3: nice to get a few of them back. But we

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Speaker 3: do know that one will be back that didn't play

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Speaker 3: in Week three, and that was Derek Derek Stingley Junior,

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Speaker 3: And that is a great thing. If he plays like

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Speaker 3: seeing him for the first time this year, and that's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a good thing for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had his first career pick against them. Down there,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see if something can happen up here. You

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Speaker 1: get Damian Pierce back in all likelihood, we think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be good. The Jags have always struggled

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean early on the first matchup, Texans didn't

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Speaker 1: This just didn't. They want to run the football because

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Speaker 1: don't like throwing for over three hundred yards a week,

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Speaker 1: which feels like it's happening every week now. With CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: played something of that nature. Yeah, it was two eighty

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Speaker 1: I don't know who the one hundred yard receiver is

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Speaker 1: Nico going off at any particular time. Nico's still their

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Speaker 1: is Tank going to be the lead guy when the

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Speaker 1: season ends? Is he going to end up with more

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Speaker 1: feeling he might. I don't know. Obviously, we don't know

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Speaker 2: To So I just got through a telstrader a while ago.

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Speaker 3: Mark and I telestrated CJ's touchdown past the Tank and

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals. The Cardinals were in a cover three and

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Speaker 3: But there's a two men route and they actually have

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Speaker 3: I think it was Jalen Thompson, he had two routes going,

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Speaker 3: you know, vertically, at about the same time. If you got

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Speaker 3: If your safety, who do you lean towards to help?

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Speaker 1: Oh geez, I don't know. Well, okay, that's my point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is Thompson turns towards Nico because he

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Speaker 3: felt like the corner on that side needed some help. Well,

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Speaker 3: that left Tank all that room in the back of

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Speaker 3: Not that the middle of the field safety should be

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Speaker 3: responsible for that, but he could have helped. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: what's gonna start happening are safety is now going to be, oh, hey,

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Speaker 3: Tank's over here, I'm gonna help on this route, and

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Speaker 3: that's going to leave other guys open. I think early

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Speaker 3: on teams were more concerned about Nico because Nico is producing.

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Speaker 2: He was really tough after the catch, and they were

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Speaker 2: really worried about that. Plus Tank's are rookie, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's a he's a slot gadget guy.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, you do anything.

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Speaker 3: Well, now Tank has turned into and well we knew

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Speaker 3: he was more than that, but I think that's what

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Speaker 2: And they're not going away from that.

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Speaker 1: It was like preseason. So this would be a big

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Speaker 2: You just got to get beyond it.

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Speaker 1: After this. It's the Jets with Tim Boyle at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: They just fired the offensive coordinator. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: in a moment. But Cleveland goes in there with DTR

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Speaker 1: and wins and it's a ten to ten game forever

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Speaker 1: in this outing and you can't score points with your

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Speaker 1: second year guy. They got to do something else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely do. And I don't know if Pickett's

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Speaker 3: going to be the answer. We know Matt Canada is not.

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Speaker 3: He's been relieved to his duties. How about this, Matt

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Speaker 3: Cannon relieved of his duties. It's the first time since

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Speaker 3: nineteen forty one the Steelers have fired a coordinator a

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Speaker 3: head coach during the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't do this. This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: And they've had no problems herefore nineteen forty one. So

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Speaker 3: then you've got so that's DTR at the Browns. Then

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Speaker 3: you got Levis more than likely here, right, and then

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Speaker 3: in week eighteen more likely. Gardner minshew, Yeah, that those

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Speaker 3: are the quarterbacks you face down the stretch, so you know,

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Speaker 3: it's it.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of odd in that way.

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Speaker 3: Now, the flip side of that is we will have

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Speaker 3: played every number one overall quarterback dating back to twenty

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Speaker 3: eighteen over the stretch, starting with Bryce Young, so lost

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Speaker 3: to Bryce Young, beat Maker Mayfield beat Joe Burrow beat

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Now you've got Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: And you go back even further because when you play

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Speaker 3: the Browns, there's Miles Garrett, number one overall pick, that

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Speaker 3: will face arguably defensive player of the year, but facing

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Speaker 3: on defense. So we'll face all these you know, number

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Speaker 3: one overall quarterbacks and you know you really were, you know,

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Speaker 3: a couple of key drives away from the Panthers from

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Speaker 3: sweeping them. And now you've got Trevor Lawrence coming into

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Speaker 3: NRG where he's one and one. I wish he would

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Speaker 3: be going to but hopefully he leaves out of here

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Speaker 3: one and two.

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Speaker 1: All right, I wanted to do this later, but let's

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Speaker 1: do it now and we can continue into the next segment.

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Speaker 1: But AFC South the stretch. Run, dive the deep, dive

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Speaker 1: into the stretch. Run here and you're not quite in

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Speaker 1: the final stretch. Okay, what turn are you in? The

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Speaker 1: horse race? Here? You're on the back end and zone

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Speaker 1: whatever they I should know this because I was a

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Speaker 1: track announcer for three months in Michigan. I was for

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Speaker 1: quarter horses. We only had like those one hundred yard

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Speaker 1: dash type races. I forget what they called them. It's

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Speaker 1: like one furlong or something. But anyway, Jaggs, what's up

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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars after the Houston Texans, Bengals, Browns Ravens. Oh,

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Speaker 1: all right, so the Bengals with at quarterback, Brown's at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But the Browns are very tough this year, and that

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Speaker 1: game will be in Cleveland. They'll have the Ravens at

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Speaker 1: their place. So Brown's Ravens, pretty tough Buccaneers on the road.

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Speaker 1: Then Carolina Tennessee to close it out. It's not terribly daunting.

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Speaker 1: In fact, spoiler alert. Frank Frangie, who I caught up

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Speaker 1: with the voice of the Jaguars, already told me they

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Speaker 1: consider this to be the toughest game in their remaining outings.

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Speaker 1: This is the one and I still think the Ravens Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, the Ravens. The Ravens will be a tough one.

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Speaker 3: It kind of goes along with what Jonathan Gannon said

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Speaker 3: just kind of flippantly the other day. They were saying

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Speaker 3: something about, you know, how they played in a game,

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Speaker 3: you had opportunities all that, and he said, hey, as

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Speaker 3: a playoff team over there, referring to the Texans. So

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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting that that's how that's how

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Speaker 3: opponents are thinking about the Texans now, which is kind

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Speaker 3: of interesting from that standpoint. So, yeah, when you listen

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Speaker 3: to that list of games, the Browns game will be

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Speaker 3: tough because this physically they'll beat up.

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Speaker 1: But the Ravens they got, they still have the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: so incredibly tough game. I really wish Joe Burrow could

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Speaker 1: get back on the field against them. But take it

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Speaker 1: for what it is, and look, maybe the Bengals end

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Speaker 1: up doing the thing that the Browns are doing.

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Speaker 3: They rally around their quarterback. The problem is the Browns

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Speaker 3: have that defense. The Bengals have no defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Browns have this outstanding generational I hate using

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Speaker 1: that word. Yeah, I make fun of that word sometimes. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's good, but they do have an incredible defense and

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Speaker 1: that's keeping them in this thing right now. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see where it takes them. Because they are seven to three.

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Speaker 1: I would love them to be out of it by

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Speaker 1: the time the Texans get to that game on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: All right, the Tennessee Titans. I'm just bringing this up

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Speaker 1: for academic purposes. Carolina, Johnny. They've got Carolina coming up

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Speaker 1: this week and that game is in Tennessee. It's in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: They could get that one. You never know. Twyce youngs

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Speaker 1: thinking I'm gonna get this one, but you know they

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Speaker 1: always play hard. All right, then the Colts. This is

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Speaker 1: the Titans schedule remaining. Dolphins on the road, Texans at home,

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Speaker 1: Seahawks at home, Texans on the road, Jacksonville. Good night, Tennessee. Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's been real Wow, great, Johnny. What are they gonna do?

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Speaker 1: I see maybe a six win season at the most here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if they let's say that they do six

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Speaker 2: at most.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, they will be six and eighteen over their

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Speaker 3: last twenty four Right now, right now, the Titans are

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Speaker 3: three and fourteen in their last seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw another one, all right, so you have

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Speaker 1: that that's crazy to think about. We're making a little

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Speaker 1: titan sandwich. Here, I'm gonna throw another piece of meat

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Speaker 1: on it for you to digest. Here, what if you

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Speaker 1: really don't know about will Levis exiting this year? I

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Speaker 1: think if anything, for them, they got to know what

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Speaker 1: they've got here. Is will Levis going to be something

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Speaker 1: they can really sink their teeth into in twenty four

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Speaker 1: and on? Or do they have to think about going

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Speaker 1: again into that draft, into that wilderness of the draft

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Speaker 1: and trying to find a quarterback? Or is Levis there? God?

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Speaker 1: They need to know that, so go ahead and find out.

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Speaker 1: That's why they're playing him right now. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's the reason for playing him is to see

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Speaker 3: what they have to see if they're gonna go with him,

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Speaker 3: and to see how long that process takes. I mean,

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Speaker 3: maybe they're not going to be sure about it. Here's

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Speaker 3: the other thing too. We think about the draft and

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Speaker 3: then the draft has got plenty of quarterbacks, plenty of

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Speaker 3: young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: There are gonna be some teams.

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Speaker 3: That will say, hey, look at the Texans, they got

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Speaker 3: the right quarterback, and now look what they're doing Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now we know in the building, CJ has been incredible,

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Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, But there's been a lot that's

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Speaker 3: gone into the building of this organization and the team

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Speaker 3: that you see on the field. Outside of CJ. There's

552
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Speaker 3: been a lot of rookie involvement in addition. But yes,

553
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Speaker 3: CJ has gotten this thing and help get this thing

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Speaker 3: turned on out.

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Speaker 1: This is a good mix here. But I'll say this though,

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Speaker 1: and I bet you agree with me. If you put

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Speaker 1: CJ in Carolina this year, they're playing a whole lot better.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Saying is bad. Bryce needs a situation out c elevates

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Speaker 1: the situation, There's no question.

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Speaker 3: But there are gonna be some teams thinking and looking

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Speaker 3: at the Texans saying we're gonna replicate.

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Speaker 1: What they do.

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Speaker 3: He is just I would yes, I would think more

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Speaker 3: teams are gonna be sitting there going all right, well,

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Speaker 3: we'll we'll sit we'll sit tight and draft a quarterback,

567
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Speaker 3: or we'll move up and down in a draft and

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Speaker 3: go draft a guy that we like as opposed to

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Speaker 3: do you call the Cardinals and see if they'll part

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Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray? Do you I mean, if you like him,

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Speaker 3: if you like him. I'm just using that as example.

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Speaker 3: What about Justin Fields in Chicago? Does Justin Fields become

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Speaker 3: available for some team? So there's that component that becomes

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Speaker 3: really interesting. Well here's another one. What happens with one

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's gonna get a good job.

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Speaker 2: Where's he gonna end up?

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Speaker 1: Does he go?

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Speaker 2: Does he sign back with Minnesota? Does he end up?

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Speaker 3: Does Tennessee call him and say, Hey, he's the veteran

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Speaker 3: guy we're looking for. This is the guy that's gonna

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Speaker 3: make us better. We're gonna add another receiver to the mix.

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Speaker 3: Burks Hop whomever that a receiver is. And Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're just there are a lot of different

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Speaker 3: ways that it can go for Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: The one they want, I would have made Levis proofs.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy. Yeah, that would be they don't have

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Speaker 1: to worry about it. That would be best for them.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, they're laying in the weeds. You

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Speaker 1: know that they love this. There's something about them. Am

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Speaker 1: I overstating it? Am I worrying about nothing? Am I

592
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Speaker 1: seeing ghosts? Will talk about them? The horseshoe plus other

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Speaker 1: things coming up. I would like to rant about the

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Speaker 1: catch that wasn't last night a little bit, not on

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Speaker 1: the player, but on some of the media members. Shall

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Speaker 1: we It's Texans Radio, all right, Mark vandermar and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you. Great to have you listening tonight. Texans

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Speaker 1: matchup on the way, and Johnny, let's get into this.

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Speaker 1: I said, they're laying in the weeds. Yep, it's the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. They're just no one's talking about them. I

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Speaker 1: mean there are a lot of no one's talking about teams. Yes,

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Speaker 1: of course, no one's talking about them. Why would they?

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Speaker 1: Yet they were on a by this past weekend. They're

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Speaker 1: at five and five. They had back to back wins Carolina,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. That three game losing streak they offered at

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Speaker 1: the hands of the Jaguars, Browns and Saints kind of

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Speaker 1: took them out of the conversation, not that they were

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Speaker 1: wherever in it. They have Gardner Minshwtt quarterback for crying

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Speaker 1: out loud. But Johnny, they've got Tampa Bay coming up

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. That's winnable. I'll put that in the air quotes. Yes,

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Speaker 1: then Tennessee, then the Bengals. They could conceivably win all

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Speaker 1: of those games. I have no problem visualizing that, and

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it. Then the Steelers, I might

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Speaker 1: flip a coin for that. Then at Atlanta, then the

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Speaker 1: Raiders at home, and then the Texans. The Colts could

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Speaker 1: be a real problem here, and they just said goodbye

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Speaker 1: to Shack Leonard. Thoughts.

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Speaker 3: The one thing about you know, Shaq Leonard has been

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Speaker 3: I don't say not grousing, but he's been talking about

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Speaker 3: his his limited playing time and it was pretty obvious,

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Speaker 3: especially in week two, like, well, he's not the same guys.

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Speaker 3: I hear Franklin had taken over as kind of the

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Speaker 3: guy for the defense, like.

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Speaker 1: He's just moving better Franklin was than Shaq Leonard was.

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Speaker 3: So I know he's at back injuries and I know

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Speaker 3: that's part of it, but to do it now. Even

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Speaker 3: some of the Indian indie media that we follow, Stephen

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Speaker 3: Holder was like, I saw this coming at the end

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Speaker 3: of the year, not now.

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Speaker 2: Like there's a big shock.

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Speaker 3: Now where that can play a role is in a

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Speaker 3: locker room, Like is that a positive for locker room?

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Speaker 3: You know, he'd been kind of dour about it and

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Speaker 3: it was impacting locker room and now they kind of

635
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Speaker 3: feel free by it. I don't know, they could go

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Speaker 3: the other way where he is heavily connected. Like I

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Speaker 3: just saw a tweet from Kenny Moore this afternoon, you know,

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Speaker 3: sending him props how much he loved him and he's

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Speaker 3: gonna miss him and all that kind of stuff, And

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Speaker 3: so doesn't have does that kind of play a role too,

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Speaker 3: So we'll find that out. But you've said about Gardner Minshew,

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Speaker 3: you said this before, he's got an expiration date. Well,

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Speaker 3: i'd like for that expiration date to happen this weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'd like for Baker Mayfield to outshine him and get

645
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: that win. But the cults are a very real thing.

646
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: They're very They're very real in this whole thing, and

647
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Speaker 3: I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

648
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: J back Zach Moss running. I mean, they're just it's again,

649
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like, you know, any game in

650
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Speaker 3: this division, it's going to be a physical battle because

651
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: Moss and Taylor are going to force you to have

652
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: to come up and tackle. You think about the Texans,

653
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: you know, Motor and Damian Pierce.

654
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Speaker 2: You got to come up and tackle them. Etn is tough.

655
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Speaker 2: To tackle.

656
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Speaker 3: And of course we know about twenty two in Tennessee.

657
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Speaker 3: So those teams, even with the quarterbacks and the quarterback

658
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Speaker 3: situations being what they are, you got to come tackle

659
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Speaker 3: those running backs. And that's what the culture relying on

660
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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: And look, they go to Germany, they score ten points

662
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Speaker 1: and win, score ten points again in New England, you know,

663
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Speaker 1: and they're just finding different ways. There have been games

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Speaker 1: where they want they scored thirty one on us, but

665
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Speaker 1: they scored ten and one, So they they're finding different

666
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Speaker 1: ways to win. I do think that as more teams

667
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Speaker 1: gather more film with Minshew, their offense will start to

668
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Speaker 1: slow and stagger, you know, slow down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Please that running game, that's for real.

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Speaker 3: And we had all kinds of trouble tackling Zach Moss

671
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Speaker 3: now through Jonathon Taylor in a mix and in Week

672
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Speaker 3: eight team with something on the line.

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Speaker 1: I don't want that. Don't like it at all. Don't

674
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Speaker 1: like it at all. I want it. So we gave

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Speaker 1: it a Jaguar schedule, Titans schedule, Colts schedule, and as

676
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Speaker 1: far as the Texans go, just a quick reminder after

677
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Speaker 1: this game against Jacksonville, this epic, huge, odyssey that's going

678
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Speaker 1: to take place on Sunday at noon. Then you have

679
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Speaker 1: the Broncos at home, then the Jets on the road,

680
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: then the Titans, Browns, Titans, Colts. You know, look, you

681
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: just needed everything you could muster to knock off the Cardinals.

682
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Speaker 1: This is the NFL. Nobody should be surprised. Everything is tough,

683
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Speaker 1: and you just got to take it one at a time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I look at the schedule. It just looks

685
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Speaker 1: everything looks daunting to me. Right now. You could lay

686
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Speaker 1: out seven Carolinas right there, and I would say, oh,

687
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: that looks tough because you lost to them, So be ready.

688
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: Take care of the Jags take it from there. I

689
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Speaker 1: just hate that Denver. It's funny, Johnny. You're getting the

690
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals right at the worst time. When they get Murray

691
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Speaker 1: back and all fired up, and you get James Connor back.

692
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Speaker 1: Then you get the Broncos next week. Bad time to

693
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Speaker 1: get them, because now they've won four in a row

694
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Speaker 1: going into this weekend's game and they have the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Oh that'll be interesting at all.

696
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Speaker 3: Need to be each other up a little bit, that's

697
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Speaker 3: what we need to need, those two teams to beat

698
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Speaker 3: each other up a little bit at least. If you

699
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Speaker 3: remember twenty nineteen's game, that was the Kreem Jackson return

700
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: to Houston game, and he went off in that game.

701
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: I mean, he did everything in that game against us.

702
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: He won't play four game suspension. Now he is going

703
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Speaker 3: to appeal, But I don't know that I've seen appeal.

704
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: Some have gone from four down to two. I haven't

705
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Speaker 3: seen any go from four to zero, four to one.

706
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Speaker 3: And we play them next week, so it looks like

707
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: Kaream Jackson will not be there. And Cream I know that.

708
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: You know, those hits draw fines, they draw suspensions, et cetera.

709
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Speaker 3: But they also charge up a defense. They also get

710
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Speaker 3: a defense going. And I think his physical, his physical

711
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Speaker 3: throwing his body around gives Denver a lot of juice.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a lot. I was watching the other night.

713
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Speaker 1: Those guys hit hard. That's justin Simmons. Those guys are nasty. Yeah,

714
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Speaker 1: And you're right, Kareem is a tone setter for exactly

715
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Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna be that's gonna be big.

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Speaker 1: But that's it.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's weird because you start thinking about, like

718
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Speaker 3: you said, you look at the remainder of the schedule

719
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Speaker 3: and I just gave you the quarterbacks you're facing your face,

720
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Speaker 3: your face, Trevor Lawrence this week obviously, Russell Wilson, Tim Boyle,

721
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Speaker 3: Will Levis dtr will Levis Gardner, Minshew. You think about

722
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: that and you go, that's not a daunting list of quarterbacks.

723
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Speaker 3: Every single one of those quarterbacks can find a way

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Speaker 3: to beat you, sure, every single one. And I go

725
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Speaker 3: back to twenty nineteen, after beating the Patriots, we step

726
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Speaker 3: in here against Drew Locke, talented dude, not a great quarterback,

727
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Speaker 3: but a talented guy, and he lit us up like

728
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Speaker 3: a Cris ems Street.

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Speaker 2: You just never know.

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing I said about the Cardinal game was

731
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Speaker 1: you got to make the game Prater proof. Yes, you

732
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Speaker 1: had to make it so they can't beat you with

733
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Speaker 1: a field goal at the end. And you did that

734
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Speaker 1: because they needed a touchdown. Yep. So it took his

735
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Speaker 1: long leg out of there. The guy has hit field

736
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Speaker 1: goals from all over the place. I mean, doing the

737
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Speaker 1: prep on him, Johnny Prater has hit seventy from beyond

738
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Speaker 1: fifty yeah in his career going in. That's an NFL

739
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: record by far, and a sixty four yard or second

740
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: longest field goal of all time.

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Speaker 2: The one he hit the other day was from fifty seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you remember, they had on that because

743
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Speaker 3: I did a tellstraighter of Will Anderson. So I was

744
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: going to try and find where that was, and I

745
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: was like, that was right before the field goal. So

746
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Speaker 3: Murray got hit by Connor. That ended up being the

747
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Speaker 3: team sack. Then Will sacked Kyler Murray. That was the

748
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Speaker 3: second sack.

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Speaker 1: So the ball's the forty and I'm like, they tried

750
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Speaker 1: him out there for fifty seven. It was nothing.

751
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Speaker 3: And I was standing back there and I watched that

752
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Speaker 3: ball go through and I'm like, that thing, that thing's

753
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Speaker 3: good from sixty five.

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Speaker 1: He's got the leg and you know what, they've got him,

755
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: and they're crazy not to use him, and they did,

756
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Speaker 1: so that was good.

757
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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 1: All right, A couple of things here. Marcuez Valdez scantling,

759
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: all right, last night, drops the ball, drops the ball. Okay,

760
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Speaker 1: I know it was a drop. I agree he should

761
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Speaker 1: catch that, but I'm gonna say this, had he caught it,

762
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Speaker 1: the reaction would have been, what an amazing catch, What

763
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: an amazing play, and an amazing cash he lays out

764
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: for that ball comes in with it. We are given

765
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: that high degree of difficulty, high marks, obviously, crunch time,

766
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Speaker 1: clutch play, all of that. But instead it's a drop.

767
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Speaker 1: They're acting like it's Jackie Smith, okay, reference, they're acting

768
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Speaker 1: like it hit him in the chest and it bounced out.

769
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Speaker 1: All right. I know it's a drop, and yes, he

770
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: quote should have that ball, but to kill him for that,

771
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Speaker 1: all right? On a night when Mahomes threw a red

772
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Speaker 1: zone pick, on a night when Kelsey fumbled, on a

773
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Speaker 1: night when other guys are dropping balls all over the place,

774
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Speaker 1: including on the final drive, when I was thinking, oh,

775
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: here comes Mahomes, He's going to do it, and he

776
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: didn't do it. I think that they're getting a little

777
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: too tough on Valdez Scantling.

778
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Speaker 3: I think part of it is what you said earlier

779
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: that other guys have had drops, that the drops have

780
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: kind of become this thing for the wide receiver group.

781
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're right.

782
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think anybody understands how hard that

783
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: is to be running as fast as he was and

784
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: try and make that catch extended the way that he

785
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: have at some point. Not that's not easy, but it

786
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: goes down as a drop, and I guarantee you he

787
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Speaker 3: as you as they showed him in the tunnel going

788
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Speaker 3: to the locker room.

789
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Speaker 2: He was furious with him.

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Speaker 1: There are drops, and there are drops, though there are

791
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: varying degrees of drop, right.

792
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: And that was that was one. That's like, man, it

793
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: gets put in a drop category. But like, you're right,

794
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: that would have been a really really difficult catch to make.

795
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Speaker 1: Am I right? Would people not be saying that's incredible?

796
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: I think absolutely? But I think it gets roped in.

797
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: I think what happens is it gets lumped into all

798
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Speaker 3: the other easy drops or simple drops that that wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I hate chief I really do. But what I'm talking

800
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: about is media coverage. Yeah, that drives me nuts. And

801
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: well here's the other thing. Yeah, here's the to me,

802
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: this isn't even bigger problem. The Chiefs can't score in

803
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: the second half. Yeah, that's a good problem. They can't

804
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: score in the second half. I really like it.

805
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean, they put up.

806
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: Seventeen and half, you know, like, Okay, now, listen, I

807
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: don't want to be hypocritical. We did not put up

808
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: points in the second half against the Cardinals, but we

809
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: have been putting up second half points against teams.

810
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: The Chiefs have not for weeks scoreboard for weeks. Yeah,

811
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: they have seven wins. How about the Texans are a

812
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: game behind the Chiefs? Yeah? What if I told you,

813
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: if I told you during the final week of November

814
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are having a pretty good season and

815
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: the Texans are game? I mean, can you imagine if

816
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: we just did what we were supposed to and beat

817
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Carolina or just closed out Atlanta.

818
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, look, beggars scamping chooses, we are

819
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 3: we are, I think, and I've heard I heard Seth

820
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: say this, and I agree with this.

821
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Speaker 2: Six and four is right.

822
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: Six and four feels right for what this team has

823
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: has done and.

824
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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that, and in fact, there's anything

825
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: right with that. Yeah. How many people said, if you

826
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: get six seven wins, it's a good season.

827
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Speaker 3: We last year at this time one eight, one and one.

828
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that don't start with na. So what was it

829
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Speaker 1: one eleven in one before they won again? One eleven

830
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Speaker 1: and one. I mean I remember looking at that because

831
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: we looked at the symmetry of one eleven and one

832
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: one dash one, one dash one, and we were thinking,

833
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: this is freaky, this is well, this is freaky in

834
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Speaker 1: a good way. You're six and four, and wasn't the

835
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: narrative coming in If you win six seven games, it's

836
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Speaker 1: a good sea. Yes, show some progress. Take it for

837
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Speaker 1: next year. And now I'm creedy. I am Gordon Geko,

838
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: I am so jacked. I want more, I want all

839
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Speaker 1: of it. You have seven games left. How about this?

840
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Speaker 1: If you go three and four, you go one game

841
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: below five hundred rest of the regular season, you have

842
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: a winning season.

843
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: You're nine and eight.

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Speaker 1: Had I told you winning season, you'd be like, yes,

845
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Speaker 1: sign me up. You would take that over door numbers,

846
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: absolutely every which way. We probably had that discussion in

847
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: here during training camp after practice, would you take nine

848
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: and eight right now? But we've also we've also had

849
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: some other ones. You know, yeah, yeah, would you take

850
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: ten and seven? And you're going to Kansas City for

851
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: the first round playoff game? And it sounded so ludicrous

852
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: to say that in training camp, And now now you

853
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: look at it and go, that's possible. It might happen

854
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: a couple of days. A little bit more on this

855
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: next segment and Black Friday Football. Who's in It's Texans

856
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: Radio all right? Final segment wrapping it up, Mark Vandermin

857
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: and John Harris here on a fun Tuesday, as it's

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Speaker 1: Nicsgiving week. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours and have

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Speaker 1: a great day. I know it's a couple of days away,

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Speaker 1: but some of you are out tonight getting the shopping

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Speaker 1: done because I can't go on Wednesday, cannot bother or

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Speaker 1: attempt to go to the store on Wednesday. Got to

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Speaker 1: get it all tonight. You know, you probably get away

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Speaker 1: with going to the store, but you got a time

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Speaker 1: it just right, And I don't know what the right

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Speaker 1: time is, so don't ask me.

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Speaker 2: I got mine done early Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: I got most I got most of it done, but

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Speaker 1: I do have to pick up my my turkey on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: My apple pie or pecompimpie, well, dang it, no, those

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Speaker 1: those are those are really good. I'm probably gonna say

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Speaker 1: POMPI particular about the apple pie, though. Don't come at

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Speaker 1: me with the crust. That's not it's gotta be almost

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Speaker 1: a crispness to it, almost right. I'm with you, And

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Speaker 1: I like the apple pie that's all wavy, you know,

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Speaker 1: not the perfectly quaffed out waft Is that the right word,

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Speaker 1: not the perfectly said up. I like the one that's

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Speaker 1: all like junkie looking. But the crust is kind of

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Speaker 1: like waving over the top of it, and it's really

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Speaker 1: it's it's flaky, but there's like I said, it's kind

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Speaker 1: I like it. Leave it in the oven a little

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Speaker 1: too long, a little bit, yeah, and then you put

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Speaker 1: the ice cream. One. Am I right about this? It

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Speaker 1: should be a federal law. You must have vanilla ice

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Speaker 1: cream with the apple pie. There's no have to have it.

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Speaker 3: You have to have it. I don't like ice cream.

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Speaker 3: Some people have ice cream their compie. I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: I will take that. I'll have I'll have whipped cream

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Speaker 3: on the pecan pie. I'm cool with that. But there's

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Speaker 3: a there's a place close to the house where Jack

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Speaker 3: and I live, where my son Jack. They have a

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Speaker 3: strawberry pie. Oh oh, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give right now that Froberg Farms on Highway six.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's how you pronounce it. And it's

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Speaker 1: in friends with or something. Yeah south that there, Alvin

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Speaker 1: or some somewhere way down on Highway six. People are

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Speaker 1: listening right now. You're getting it wrong. Trust me. Just

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Speaker 1: go down there. Uh, they have strawberry pie and it

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Speaker 1: is to die for I'll take that. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think it's sacrilegious in Texas to say you'd take strawberry

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Speaker 1: over pecan. Look, it's like choosing between your children. It's

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Speaker 1: really freaking good. It's tough.

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Speaker 3: Fly Saucer Pie Company. If y'all want to know, it's

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Speaker 3: over on Ella, just outside Heights. It's unbelievable. I will

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Speaker 3: walk out of there with three pies and it's just

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Speaker 3: being jack and we will knock down. In fact, I'm

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Speaker 3: thinking about going after the show going tonight, try and

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Speaker 3: get there before they close and get I'll get two

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Speaker 3: strawberry pies and a chocolate pie. Those three might be

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Speaker 3: done before Christmas, or before before Thanksgiving, before Thursday.

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Speaker 1: They might be done with Thursday. Come on, might be

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Speaker 1: saying to you, I'm not thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, i gotta go do it now, dang it.

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Speaker 1: I went.

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Speaker 3: I went the Wednesday, I got my turkey and then

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Speaker 3: put in the car and I drove over there.

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Speaker 1: Last year.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, the line was like an eighth of

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Speaker 3: a mile long. I'm but they were like chick fil a.

920
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Speaker 3: You know, chick fil A. You're like, what do you want?

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Speaker 3: It was getting out you'd walk up. I want two blueberries,

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Speaker 3: two strawberries, one pecan won this and they're on a

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Speaker 3: counter and you're walking out thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: Black Friday Football on Amazon. Look, I love it. More football,

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Speaker 1: the merrier, let's go. It's just the way they're promoting it, Like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my life has changed. Finally I have

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Speaker 1: NFL football and Black Friday because we have tons of

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Speaker 1: college games. Yeah, college games on Friday. I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like I missed the NFL. And I love the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I really miss it on Black Friday.

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Speaker 1: I'm still getting used to the Thanksgiving triple header, which

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Speaker 1: I love. Yeah, we always had the double header with

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Speaker 1: the Lions and the Cowboys always, you know, since the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the modern era. As far as the triple

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Speaker 1: header goes. The late night game, I love that because

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Speaker 1: at night, what's everybody doing?

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Speaker 2: You know, they're all crashed. Yeah, everybody's just turkeyed out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, trip the fans kicked in, and you're just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's on, oh man, Yeah we got another NFL another game,

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Speaker 1: just mainline that thing. Now, Black Friday feels like everybody's

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Speaker 1: running around that stores. But a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: a lot of people like, no, no, no, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be Friday here right here, Holy cow, we are here,

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Speaker 1: right here. Oh there's a triple header.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's a triple head of high school games here

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Speaker 3: that are going to be absolutely phenomenal, phenomal.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for that, Like I'm I'm I'm probably

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Speaker 3: more excited about ten am, two am, six pm, two pm,

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Speaker 3: six pm on Friday than any shopping I could do.

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Speaker 2: I do. I will say this, everybody, you say Black Friday?

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Speaker 1: What was everything? Oh?

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Speaker 2: You get deals your shop?

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: The fact that Amazon has the game on Black Friday,

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Speaker 3: I'll give it to them.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty smart.

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Speaker 1: It is smart, really smart. Those ads. You know, they

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Speaker 1: do some clever marketing in the Amazon games, And yes,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't they?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely is it's perfect other than the fact it's not

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Speaker 3: two of versus Aaron Rodgers, it's two of versus Tim Boyle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tim Boyle, household name Tim Boyle. By the way,

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Speaker 1: as a guy, Look, I wasn't born here. I got

965
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Speaker 1: here as fast as I could. When I'm on the field,

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Speaker 1: because I'll pop down there, I'll stand on the field

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Speaker 1: and watch these high school playoff games. It is insane

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Speaker 1: to see these athletes. I feel like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: did one double a football in the nineties. I feel

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Speaker 1: like this is that caliber at least with some of

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Speaker 1: these schools. They are ridiculously good.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable the energy you feel in a place where

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Speaker 3: one side of the field is playing their last game

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Speaker 3: of the year. In some cases a lot of guys

975
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Speaker 3: playing the last football their lives.

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Speaker 1: Of their lives. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: The energy that you have during a high school playoff game.

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Speaker 3: It's it's incredible. I was actually on YouTube last night.

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Speaker 3: I was in the kitchen and up popped like a

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Speaker 3: highlight package sort of thing for the scy Fair Katie

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Speaker 3: game last week.

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Speaker 1: Oh and I just.

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Speaker 2: Sat there, riveted watching the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: And then it ends on a on a fourth down

985
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Speaker 3: knockdown for scy Fair to be Katie in the second round,

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Speaker 3: and it's this explosion of scy Fair Bobcats running all

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Speaker 3: over It was.

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Speaker 1: It was incredible. MC Alma Mater is playing in Col's building.

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Speaker 1: How about that on Friday. That's pretty cool. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be back up a game that's gonna be fun. Quarterback

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Speaker 1: Trey Owens going to Texas. Good player. He was at

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Speaker 1: that touchdoun club thing. Yeah yeah, good Size was award

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Speaker 1: of the Touchdowner of the Year. Yep, all right, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for the show. Thanks Johnny. Texans matchup

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Speaker 1: on the We've got another big show Wednesday night with

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassario to kick it off. It is going to

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Speaker 1: be great. Thanks for listening. Go Texans.