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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where fish are always one pound

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm here in the Chris Westling podcast

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Speaker 1: studio with Patrick Clayband and Jordan Rodriege of The Athletic

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Speaker 1: and yes, the the YouTube sensation song one Pound Fish.

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Speaker 1: I just learned it just a day ago, and now

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Speaker 1: it won't leave my head and most listeners will.

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Speaker 2: Know what I'm talking about, and maybe some won't.

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Speaker 3: I learned about it forty five seconds ago.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I just discovered like Gangam Style in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: I encourage you all to check out the remixes done

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Speaker 5: by DJs.

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Speaker 6: Put some beat behind it. It's pretty. It's that thing

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Speaker 6: went to tour through the countries.

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Speaker 1: I thought about singing it to start the show, and

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Speaker 1: it would come off racist somehow, and I just decided

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Speaker 1: not to.

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Speaker 4: See how easy it is, folks, Yeah, do you see

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Speaker 4: how easy?

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Speaker 6: Great call, good decision.

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Speaker 1: I'm just fascinated, and we're going to get to every

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Speaker 1: single team in the NFC today, by the way, But

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by how like a YouTube video or a

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Speaker 1: meme can suddenly like catch fire among elementary school kids

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Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty five, like ten years after

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Speaker 1: it's happened, because this is the hottest song in the

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Speaker 1: in the Santa Monica school system right now, all the

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Speaker 1: kids are singing it.

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Speaker 5: And to think I woke up this morning and did

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Speaker 5: not even know that and did not even think that

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Speaker 5: it needs the information that would be coming across my radar.

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Speaker 4: Today And now hundreds of thousands of people have access

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Speaker 4: to the one pound Fish.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because I hadn't heard of it before, so so

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Speaker 1: google it. Twenty one million views. This is the show

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Speaker 1: where we're going to go through every single team in

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Speaker 1: the NFC and we're going to talk about their draft.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what's ahead, anything that is

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Speaker 1: left over. And I haven't gotten your guys's thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the draft, at least not since day one with Patrick,

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Speaker 1: but we had six rounds after that and none from Jordan,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying we didn't have your draft thoughts, so it's

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Speaker 2: all going to be new.

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Speaker 6: None for Gretchen wieners By.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what what is left over? What's to do?

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Speaker 1: We can take it in any direction that we want.

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Speaker 1: This is really my favorite time of the NFL calendar

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Speaker 1: because it's just it's the chill.

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Speaker 2: Time from now.

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Speaker 6: But we had Greg season.

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Speaker 2: Mid middle of July, we had Now we're here.

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Speaker 5: Ball with the regular season, we had the end of

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Speaker 5: Greg season. I kind of want to know, like what

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Speaker 5: this we had draft season? This is just chill. Let's

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Speaker 5: just take let's just take it down a notch. But

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Speaker 5: let's also make some great shows and let's put two

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Speaker 5: and a half minutes we're going to do on the clock. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we're going to make it even harder because we're just

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Speaker 5: going to go over ultimately, So it's like this will

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Speaker 5: this will bake in two and a half minutes.

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Speaker 2: Why are you laughing? And you know what we're going

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: We're going to start with the NFC South because I

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Speaker 1: feel like the NFC South it never gets the love

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Speaker 2: When I'm on the microphone.

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Speaker 1: So why don't we go Let's start with the New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. And that's Patrick Eric behind the glass. You're

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Speaker 1: going to put two and a half minutes on the clock.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The New Orleans Saints twenty twenty five draft just looked

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Speaker 4: looked at in a vacuum. You could make a case

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Speaker 4: in a vacuum. They exist in the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 4: edition of the NFL with their previous mistakes and blunders.

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Speaker 4: And I look at this and my general question about

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Speaker 4: is what is the actual plan. Kelvin Banks comes in,

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Speaker 4: presumably for Waga, stays at left tackle. Kevin Banks plays

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Speaker 4: at right tackle. They've they got Tyler Shuck. Regardless of

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Speaker 4: what you think about Tyler Shuck, he's a quarterback who

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Speaker 6: In terms of years, very extensive.

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Speaker 3: He only he's.

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Speaker 4: Only actually started twenty five games, but in terms of

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Speaker 4: does have that. Relative to the other prospects. I did

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Speaker 4: it's really been Alvin and then a significant fall off,

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Speaker 4: which is there is always going to be a falloff,

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Speaker 4: but generally, considering the quarterbacks comments and his circumstances, what

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Speaker 2: Time their jobs? It's the same plan as always. That's it.

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Speaker 1: There's no plan beyond this year. It's just to keep

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Speaker 1: to the plan that they had with Dennis Allen, which

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Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world is we got a

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Speaker 1: to be good enough, Alvin Kamara is going to run

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Speaker 6: I do like that this is sort of a very

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Speaker 6: where it's like we're going to pretend that issue doesn't exist.

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Speaker 5: We're going to go get a bridge quarterback and Tyler Schuck.

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Speaker 5: We're going to get a massive human being to help

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Speaker 5: protect him. And Calvin Banks Junior because we have watched

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Speaker 5: the tape of him under pressure and I actually really

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Speaker 5: my one of my favorite pick that the Saints had

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Speaker 5: he's aggressive, he's tough. So they're continuing to add some

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Speaker 5: and we're just going to pretend Derek carrs well, you.

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Speaker 2: Can't pretend he was.

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Speaker 1: He was on camera at an event at a church

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Speaker 1: where he got really mad about how the media has

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Speaker 1: And to that, I just think, like, where did the

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Speaker 1: injury information come from? It probably came from Derek Carr's camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the only person that knows if there's an

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Speaker 3: Enlightened everyone, not just when.

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Speaker 6: Good place to do that at lightning, you know, a church.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the church audience or Twitter dot Com or NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: Come on, we've had him on before. Let's do it again.

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Speaker 1: David came on of course with Derek back in around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. All right, let's go to the care of Panthers. Jordan.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I saw the direction and the vision they wanted

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Speaker 5: to go with McMillan. Hear me out. The Panthers wanted

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Speaker 5: too many questions to expect all of it to get

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Speaker 5: have questions about their defensive backfield. I know they've made

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Speaker 5: some moves. I would love to see Trevon Morgan the slot.

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Speaker 1: Fair I think fine to good might be projecting that

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Speaker 1: Ted McMillan is the guy right away that you hope

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Speaker 1: to forget about those. Hunter Renfro is now on the team.

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Speaker 1: We found out that he had an autoimmune disease that

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Speaker 1: so that explains why he wasn't in the NFL. So

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Speaker 1: that's an interesting player to watch who could also help

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Speaker 1: out Bryce Young. If he's back to being Hunter Renfro,

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Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Although to be fair, he was

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Speaker 3: Good to be back. Yeah, glad to have him back.

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Speaker 4: One of the better route runners in the entire league,

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Speaker 4: with respect from all over the league. My thing was

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Speaker 4: because the initial reaction to the Ted McMillan pick that

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Speaker 4: so they come back and they get Nick Gorton out

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Speaker 4: really like the player that they need because it's kind

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Speaker 4: is just ted really has like TMAC excuse me as

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Speaker 4: the young man would like to be called, really has

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Speaker 1: Think they took the highest ceiling player like available at

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Speaker 1: every pick. So shout out to Eric Eager, former PFF employee,

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Speaker 2: Over at the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he made those picks, but if

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Speaker 5: I do know one thing I know Dan Morgan is

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Speaker 5: listening to him, and I think that's that's a smart

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Speaker 1: Er Iki I kwanmu. Why, by the way, got a

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Speaker 1: fifth year option picked up? I will go with the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Put it on the clock, and yes,

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Speaker 1: we're going to try to get in every little bit

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Speaker 1: if it's not draft related. Draft related, we can be

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Speaker 2: Bucks. I would have loved if they had gotten another edge.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at taking Emica Muka in the

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Speaker 1: first round, it's like, oh, no, we have too many weapons.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we have too many good receivers short

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Speaker 1: and long term that all play different but complimentary roles

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Speaker 1: like Oh, No, I have to say, it's a great

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Speaker 1: day for the Baker believers out there, like yourself, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: because I've been feeling it all off season. This team

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Speaker 1: is like first tier super Bowl contender right now. Baker,

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Speaker 1: to me is the biggest question that they have because

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Speaker 1: even Edge, even Edge son Reddick Yah Yadyabi, Chris Brazl

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Speaker 1: was a second round pick. Well, it's true, though, you

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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta make the you gotta be so good

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Speaker 6: Right he's playing to type. I mean that's fine.

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Speaker 3: No, I love it. Yeah, the bit lives forever.

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Speaker 6: The bit lives forever. I loved I like most of

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Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I don't think they have

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Speaker 4: And the message that I'm getting from this particular draft

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Speaker 2: What continuity they have.

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Speaker 1: The entire offensive line is back, all the skill position

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Speaker 1: I think Todd Bowles has a vision for it. They've

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Speaker 6: Well, what I especially like is doubling up at these

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Speaker 2: I like the double epl strategy in general. Let's go

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Speaker 4: Speaking of doubling up the twenty twenty five Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 5: Now this is a different scenario because it's not two

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Speaker 6: To figure out what two players would we like.

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Speaker 5: To pair together in order to fix And I think

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Speaker 5: so I think that that's where they also factored in

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Speaker 1: I think the issue is just how many draft knicks

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Speaker 1: It was all defense all the time. So the offense

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Speaker 1: they were like, you're good over there. It's not like

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Speaker 4: That guy just making his first five starts in the

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Speaker 1: Also, Kirk Cousins might be stuck. He might actually be

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Speaker 6: And save kirkus, pretend the problem doesn't exist.

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Speaker 1: Right, Let's go to the NFC East next up. Why

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Speaker 1: don't you get us going Jordan with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, am I excited about this. I've thrown a

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Speaker 5: lot of shade at the Cowboys over about the past year,

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Speaker 6: But my god, can these guys draft?

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Speaker 5: Like, kudos to Will McLay take a bowt this is

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Speaker 6: What the regular season is to you? Greg? This is

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Speaker 5: I still don't know who can truly be a difference

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Speaker 6: Hello Tyler. Booker, by the way.

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Speaker 5: Is really going to help them, And a lot of

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Speaker 5: the local chatter is also about needing a number two receiver.

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Speaker 5: But I absolutely love the three pick punch that they

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Speaker 6: So I liked this draft a lot.

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is being rumored to possibly be on his

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the opportunity there.

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Speaker 4: And to double up on what Jordan said about Shavonn

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's not going to be like a

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Speaker 1: It's a big chance for Eberflus to come back in

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Speaker 1: Let's just take a time out on the old Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: We get them.

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Speaker 1: Sure, the Giants are gonna get a lot of pop

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Speaker 2: I mean that's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: So he re injured his knee not working hard enough.

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Speaker 5: It's a logic out of the Star, you know, right.

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Speaker 5: I just love that they kind of gave eberplut eber

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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to watch them.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of playing to type, NFL media taking an

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Speaker 6: I mean I've spent a lot of time this year

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Let's go New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who did not coach his group up well

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Speaker 1: last year. And at the end of the year, the

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Speaker 1: owner John Mara said, well, to be frank, like, our

444
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Speaker 1: defense was really disappointing, and that guy is still the

445
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Speaker 1: coordinator there, so he better deliver because he's got some

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Speaker 1: players on his side.

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Speaker 4: It's just as great as the idea of this Giant's

448
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Speaker 4: pass rush is. Like the quarterback situation is a mess,

449
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Speaker 4: Like you have an extra quarterback that could contribute, Like

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Speaker 4: what role does Jamis actually serve in New York at

451
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Speaker 4: this point?

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Speaker 6: Anything you want, anything you can imagine if it was an.

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Speaker 1: Actual competition, I would take my chances with him over

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jackson Dart for that matter, same exactly.

456
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Speaker 1: But he might end up as the New Orleans Saints

457
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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. That's my oh my god.

458
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Speaker 4: But like Brian Dable is going to have like a

459
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Speaker 4: weird quarterback situation to determine whether or not he is

460
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Speaker 4: just Mike Schula to Cam Newton's Josh Allen.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like at a certain point, what a good.

462
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Speaker 1: Throw one he's wearing the NFL Network polo he's winning.

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Speaker 6: What a freaking poll is your name? Tyler Booker?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: I just well, it's because the quarterback situation has been

466
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Speaker 4: so bad. Four out of the last five years they

467
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Speaker 4: have been thirtieth or worse in total offense, like absolute

468
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Speaker 4: bottom of the league. And I understand there was that

469
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Speaker 4: year they go to Minnesota, they win the playoff game

470
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Speaker 4: and it's like projections are up nothing and injuries aside,

471
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Speaker 4: like it at least have something and there's been nothing.

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Speaker 6: My prediction is that Dable and that coaching staff.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna want to show very quickly that Jackson Dart

474
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Speaker 5: there's a reason that they became, you know, reportedly enamored

475
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Speaker 5: with him through the late stages of the process.

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Speaker 6: There's a reason why they trade it up to go

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Speaker 6: get him.

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Speaker 5: I think they're gonna use him in that versatile run

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Speaker 5: and throw kind.

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Speaker 6: Of situation while he settles into being a pass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Over under week, I'm gonna say four.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's tough because it's New York, so he's gonna

483
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Speaker 4: have to try extra hardbreak.

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Speaker 1: They also did very well in terms of like the

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Speaker 1: draft grades and stuff. Actually, I don't know if that's true.

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Speaker 1: I haven't looked at any draft gads, but I just

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Speaker 1: assume because whenever a team drafts a lot of guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, then they do well in the draft grades.

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Speaker 1: And they drafted Skataboo, who I'm really excited about. They

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Speaker 1: drafted Darius Alexander, who I think got a lot of

491
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Speaker 1: pop throughout the process, and then even Mbo I don't

492
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Speaker 1: know how to pronounce his name, Mobo Marcus in the

493
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Speaker 1: fifth round. Like it's just another guy who's got a

494
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Speaker 1: lot of pop throughout the process. So when you draft guys,

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Speaker 1: people know you get good grades. All right, let's wrap

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Speaker 1: up the NFC East with the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 5: Jordan, Yeah, so I liked their draft. It was very small.

498
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Speaker 5: They didn't have a lot of picks. It's going to

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Speaker 5: take them a little while, I think, to rebuild like

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Speaker 5: the young core of this roster. We know that that's

501
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Speaker 5: why they go out and spend in free agency on veterans.

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Speaker 5: I do actually want to open here with some news

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Speaker 5: before we get to the picks. So this week DC

504
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Speaker 5: representatives and Commander's team representatives announced their agreement to build

505
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Speaker 5: a new sixty five thousand seat football stadium on the

506
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Speaker 5: current RFK Stadium site in northeast Washington, which seemed to.

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Speaker 6: Be a majority what a majority of the fan base wanted.

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Speaker 5: And it still needs approval from the DC City Council,

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Speaker 5: but if approved, it is scheduled to open in twenty thirty.

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Speaker 2: We could be going to a Super Bowl there.

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Speaker 1: Now, there's been a lot of false starts with this

512
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Speaker 1: stadium process, so I guess I won't take it as

513
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Speaker 1: official until it's official, but it would be another indoor stadium, yes, outdoors,

514
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Speaker 1: the indoors. Now Buffalo's going indoors. Washington's going indoors.

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Speaker 5: It'll have a roof obviously, but then also there is

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Speaker 5: going to be a designated affordable housing allocation around the

517
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Speaker 5: district of it. And then also thirty percent of the

518
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Speaker 5: property needs to be allocated toward green space and some

519
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Speaker 5: of it will go along the riverfront. And what I

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Speaker 5: thought was interesting because we're seeing all kinds of different

521
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Speaker 5: stadium promises and all of that, but the Bowser administration

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Speaker 5: sid the commander's contribution to the new stadium will actually

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Speaker 5: be about seventy six percent of the total cost and

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Speaker 5: twenty four percent with the city contribution. And if they

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Speaker 5: go over any of the projected costs, the team is

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Speaker 5: responsible for paying those costs. So juxapose that with the

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Speaker 5: Titans new stadium, which is sixty forty public investment sixty

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Speaker 5: or the Jaguars Stadium, which is fifty fifty.

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Speaker 2: I hate any public investment, you know.

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Speaker 5: I know, why don't you just go build a five

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Speaker 5: billion dollars stadium in the back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm not a billionaire, you know.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm saying the billionaires should be doing this exactly.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Matt Gae got a job.

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Speaker 1: Four point five, guaranteed to be the Commander's next kicker,

536
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Speaker 1: big news on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: I was excited about that. I was.

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Speaker 1: I thought they have had a weird offseason. I haven't

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Speaker 1: loved it. I thought Josh Connorley even was a little

540
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Speaker 1: bit of a weird pick, just because you immediately have

541
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Speaker 1: to move him to right tackle. Same thing with Brandon Coleman,

542
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Speaker 1: who was their left tackle last year.

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Speaker 5: So I love the tree Amis pick. Yeah, it takes

544
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Speaker 5: that defense better instantly.

545
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Speaker 1: And it's kind of a marsh On Lattimore insurance policy,

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Speaker 1: which you need with his injuries.

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Speaker 4: It's it, but it's kind of like the early reactions

548
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Speaker 4: to Severance and and or season two, where the first

549
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Speaker 4: edition was so incredible that you look at this offseason

550
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Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, where's the where's the crown breaking shift?

551
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Speaker 4: Where it's just like this is this is life Commanders.

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully it'll be more like Wired season two in

553
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Speaker 1: the long run, which at the time people were like,

554
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Speaker 1: what is this? This isn't the show I signed up for,

555
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Speaker 1: And then over time I think people appropriately appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, even if when I covered a game at the

558
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Speaker 5: Commanders stadium it was raining and rain came pouring into

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Speaker 5: the press box and rooms several computers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, really, hopefully at this new stadium, they can figure

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Speaker 1: out that the plumbing doesn't, you know, go all over

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Speaker 1: the also a fan.

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Speaker 6: I think apossum lives up there too.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to him.

565
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Speaker 6: Hopefully he or her didn't some sewage can be safely.

566
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Speaker 1: Didn't people get toilet water on them and whatnot?

567
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Speaker 4: I believe so that was that was because like the

568
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Speaker 4: issue also included right the upper level laboratories.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Jaden daniels Man who just came in

570
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Speaker 1: there as a rookie and just gave great vibes to

571
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Speaker 1: a place that hadn't had it for decades. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: great vibes, the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles, I assume

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Speaker 1: the vibes are still good after only a portion of

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, you know, we talked about having

576
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Speaker 4: to stage to sage a historically harmful venue. The Philadelphia

577
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Speaker 4: Eagles traveled to sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. A portion of

578
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Speaker 4: them did. Some new Eagles didn't make it yet. Jahat

579
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Speaker 4: Campbell got drafted, which elicited a lot of the typical

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Speaker 4: how he does it again? Reaction because you have a

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Speaker 4: marquee player from a big program who had production in

582
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Speaker 4: college that had an injury concerned that caused him to

583
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Speaker 4: fall down the board.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles were able to snap him up.

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Speaker 4: Then they get Macouba out of Texas, who was the

586
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Speaker 4: less athletic safety in that Texas secondary.

587
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Speaker 3: But he goes there. The athletic scores on him not too.

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Speaker 4: Great, but I will point out solid player that Brian

589
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Speaker 4: Branch also had a low relative athletic score. A few

590
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Speaker 4: guys have at that position that have plenty of success

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. And this is the the draft of

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Speaker 4: a team that won the Super Bowl. But despite that,

593
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Speaker 4: they have ten picks, Like there's a lot of picks

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Speaker 4: for for Howie and the Eagles. They get Colin McCord,

595
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Speaker 4: another veteran life like, a longtime college starter that threw

596
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Speaker 4: four billion yards last year and the year before to

597
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Speaker 4: come in and fill up a backup role.

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Speaker 3: Just a Super Bowl champ.

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Speaker 2: Draft quarterback factory.

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Speaker 1: I do want to get back to the White House thing,

601
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Speaker 1: but I did notice how they took three big swings

602
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Speaker 1: late on the offensive line, two at tackle. One was

603
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: Cameron Williams and Miles Hinton was another one, and I

604
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: noticed the ravens of that too. A couple teams did it,

605
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Speaker 1: taking these big swings late on like two or three

606
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Speaker 1: tackle prospects because it's so fine of hard to find

607
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Speaker 1: these linemen. Can you develop in them in a couple

608
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Speaker 1: of years, it seems.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to talk. As you guys were talking, I

610
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Speaker 5: was pulling up his profile. Dane Brugler wrote a great

611
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Speaker 5: write up over on the On the Beast about Drew

612
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Speaker 5: Kendall the center where I think in a couple of

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Speaker 5: years because of how much he's already done. He was

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Speaker 5: at Boston College, so within that Bill O'Brien offense, in

615
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Speaker 5: that run game, especially where they're doing a variety of

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Speaker 5: different things. You know, I feel like, low key there

617
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Speaker 5: are a couple guys out of Boston College on that

618
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 5: offensive line this year that I think are going to

619
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Speaker 5: be really good pros. And Drew Kendall, to me, is

620
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Speaker 5: a total You're going to forget where he was for

621
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Speaker 5: like two years, and all of a sudden he's going

622
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Speaker 5: to emerge as like one of the next really really

623
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Speaker 5: good offensive line. Cam Jurgens, Yeah, like Cam Jurgens, I mean,

624
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Speaker 5: they keep they keep refilling using this same formula and

625
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 5: this same strategy, similar to a lot of teams actually

626
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Speaker 5: had reds, which means they took him off the board

627
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Speaker 5: because the injury concerns of Johah Campbell, who is one

628
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 5: of the best players in the draft. But the Eagles

629
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Speaker 5: are going to find a way to make it work.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a time out here. We'll give it to

631
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Speaker 1: the Eagles too. We got three, got three to use. Yeah,

632
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Speaker 1: Drew Kendall, by the way, a fifth round pick. So

633
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Speaker 1: it is testing Stotland University to take these late round

634
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Speaker 1: guys and see if they can become a big time starters.

635
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Speaker 1: But it has been reported that they tried to trade

636
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Speaker 1: up as high as to the Chargers at twenty two.

637
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Speaker 1: That was I believe, trying to make a deal for

638
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Speaker 1: Johad Campbell, who we had in you know, the top

639
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Speaker 1: ten of our ARMCK draft.

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Speaker 6: And because without the injury, he is in the top ten.

641
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Speaker 1: Right and and in theory could start over. You know,

642
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: we'll see about Nakobe Dean getting healthy, but that's a

643
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: tough recovery that he's going to have, and so Jehad

644
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: Campbell might not be ready for Week one either. But

645
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Speaker 1: at some point he could be starting, Like, I like

646
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Speaker 1: that they're not dogmatic. This is a team that now

647
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Speaker 1: is spending on inside linebackers and running. It's kind of

648
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: like it's the whole moneyball thing that, like, once everyone

649
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: starts copying what you do, you need to find the

650
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Speaker 1: margin somewhere else.

651
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Speaker 2: Now he does it again, and then Yeah, I.

652
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Speaker 1: Did appreciate that Jalen Hurts and a lot of the

653
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: players were not at the White House, and then a

654
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Speaker 1: lot of the players were. It really a lot of

655
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Speaker 1: the defense wasn't The wide receivers weren't really there, quarterbacks

656
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Speaker 1: weren't there.

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Speaker 2: That was kind of how it broke down.

658
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Speaker 5: I think that Jalen Hurts, who was on the cover

659
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Speaker 5: of Time magazine recently, has carried himself really, really well

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Speaker 5: this offseason. I mean, the spotlight has never been more

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Speaker 5: on him, especially after winning another Super Bowl, winning the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl, and I think that in the contract and

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Speaker 5: so I think he has really carried himself well this offseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And the player that carried the team really for the

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Speaker 4: majority of the season in Saquon Barkley, who was in

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Speaker 4: a labor struggle of his own along with his fellow

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Speaker 4: running backs a few years ago has made a decision

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Speaker 4: right to be on a particular side of history. But

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Speaker 4: the one thing that leaps out to me is the

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Speaker 4: idea that the visit was politicized. And I can't think

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Speaker 4: of a more apolitical institution than the building at sixteen

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Speaker 4: hundred Pennsylvania Avenue and the Office of the President, which

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Speaker 4: is inherently political, which everything is the way that we

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Speaker 4: determine who should be treated a certain way and how

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Speaker 4: they should be that's everything is politics, and so it's

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Speaker 4: an asen thing to say, and it's very disappointing from

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Speaker 4: one of the best players in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It is, and I'm sure the rest of the Eagles organization,

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Speaker 1: including ownership, everything is just happy that that's over and

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Speaker 1: that they can move on.

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Speaker 2: We are going to move on.

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Speaker 6: The Giants started weighing in, even my god, yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: Giant Giants trying to correct the record. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: the NFC West and the NFC North right after great

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Speaker 2: back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: It's the best division in football, maybe three of the

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Speaker 1: best five teams in the NFC, certainly on paper, and

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Speaker 1: the Bears with an argument to have one of the

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Speaker 1: better rosters as well.

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Speaker 6: They won the offseason again, guys, they I know.

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Speaker 1: But looks so believable. This time, let's start with the

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Speaker 1: division winner. I'll get us going with the Lions. It's

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Speaker 1: Lions two point zero, and I think they're at the

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Speaker 1: point and they have been at other points in their

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Speaker 1: process of like, can we just identify players better than

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Speaker 1: other teams can identify players? Because Tyler Williams, he felt

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Speaker 1: like a pick that was made maybe after the position

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Speaker 1: group that they were focusing on got taken a lot.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Williams, who's more of a nose tackle, exciting player.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eighth overall, Tate Rutledge goes a little earlier than

702
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Speaker 1: you would have expected guard out of Georgia. And then

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Speaker 1: they really were feeling themselves, trading two thirds to get

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Speaker 1: Isaac Tesla, the wide receiver prospect out of Arkansas without

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Speaker 1: a lot of production.

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Speaker 2: And maybe they'll be right, maybe they'll be wrong.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Lions patrick have tipped it all

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Speaker 1: over into feeling themselves too much?

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Speaker 4: Category No, because I think you could have made that

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Speaker 4: case right after the or Gibbs pick. That's like, ah,

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Speaker 4: they don't know that this team is all vibes and no,

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Speaker 4: this is this is their strategy and it has worked out.

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Speaker 4: If Brad Holmes wants to draft me like, I'll be like, well,

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming Brad Holmes has a plan for what I'm

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Speaker 4: allegedly going to do. And I get the criticism about

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Speaker 4: using a future third to trade up and take somebody

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Speaker 4: in the third, But if they have that number and

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Speaker 4: that value on tuslaw or tuslaw, however you say his name,

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Speaker 4: it's I don't you know, part of me doesn't want

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Speaker 4: to call them Isaac two thirds.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, two.

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Speaker 6: Thirds, let's call him Isaac Newton.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, generally two thirds for one third feels bad. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And they did it last of the They did it

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Speaker 1: last year too, with a guy that I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be watching carefully, Giovanni Manu, which was a very risky

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Speaker 1: pick where they traded a third this year to take

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Speaker 1: a fourth last year. He didn't play, but he needed

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Speaker 1: a developmental season. They buy it the way might be

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Speaker 1: changing his position, which isn't the greatest sign to guard.

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Speaker 5: It's been a long time since this has happened, but

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Speaker 5: I think we need a quick reminder that Brad Holmes

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Speaker 5: was the original person who championed a young receiver with

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Speaker 5: very interesting traits out of Eastern Washington.

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Speaker 6: In the third round is named Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm not comparing the players one to one,

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Speaker 5: but Brad Holmes knows what he is looking for in

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Speaker 5: the receivers he wants on his football team, and that's

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Speaker 5: why he And you see this with James Gladstone, Now

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Speaker 5: you've always seen it with Les Snead that Brad Holmes,

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Speaker 5: if they like a guy, they're gonna go get that guy.

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Speaker 6: And I thought it was like.

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Speaker 5: A little bit of nice poetry that the trade happened

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Speaker 5: to be between Brad Holmes and James Gladstone, two people

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Speaker 5: that do abide by that principle you like the guy,

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Speaker 5: go get the guy.

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Speaker 1: Also, guys who abide by a principle perhaps FM picks.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's more about the actual humans that you're going

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Speaker 1: to get. If you need to use those picks to

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Speaker 1: get those humans, use them.

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Speaker 6: And you know what freaking feel something?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's because if you have a good roster,

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Speaker 4: you can't have like twenty seven. Bit like I understand

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00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: the the hypothetical value that these players have, but like

755
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: everybody can't make the team.

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Speaker 1: Feeling things is good that reminds me of Eric Spolstra,

757
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat coach, spoke after they were swept out

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs, and he said about the team, it

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00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: was a fun group to be around. I felt fully alive,

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Speaker 1: as live, as alive as I felt in a while

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Speaker 1: in the regular season, which like relatable on some level.

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Speaker 1: Not a great advertisement for the NBA regular season.

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Speaker 2: On another level. And then maybe a sign he should

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Speaker 2: take like a year off too.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he should call above, like have management above him,

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Speaker 4: not being maniacal and constantly un mentions as a head

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Speaker 4: basketball coach.

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Speaker 2: I love a little Miami Heat talk.

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Speaker 1: In the middle of the show, let's go to Jordan

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Speaker 1: and the Minnesota Viking.

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Speaker 6: You gus the big news of the week.

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Speaker 5: I'mready, JJ McCarthy taking reps at OTAs.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the era is upon us.

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Speaker 5: Unless you know they changed their minds and Aaron Rodgers, No,

775
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 5: they all just kidding, just kidding, just kidding, just kidding, rude. Otherwise,

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Speaker 5: they only had five draft picks. It was a thin class,

777
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Speaker 5: but I thought, I think they have a strong roster already.

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Speaker 5: Kind of goes to what we were just talking about.

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Speaker 5: If you have a really highly competitive roster, you're really

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Speaker 5: looking to fill in very specific qualities and a little

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Speaker 5: bit of depth. They needed help up front on their

782
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Speaker 5: interior offensive line, so they picked up Donovan Jackson to

783
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Speaker 5: help it guard. They might have reached a little for him,

784
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Speaker 5: but again goes right into what we were just saying.

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Speaker 5: If you like the player and he fits both a

786
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: need and he's the best player on your board at

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Speaker 5: that need, I say go get him. My favorite pick

788
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Speaker 5: of theirs Kobe King, the inside linebacker out of Penn State.

789
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Speaker 5: But they took in the sixth round actually with the

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Speaker 5: pick they got from the Los Angeles Rams at two

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Speaker 5: to one. Who I actually projected the Rams to pick

792
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Speaker 5: at two to one. So I'm kind of like tickled

793
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Speaker 5: by that personally. You're rubbing off on me, like it's

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00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 5: about me, after all, he's.

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Speaker 1: Kind of this, Wait, I'm just rubbing off on you

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Speaker 1: and just being more self centered, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: No that I can I can share.

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Speaker 5: I can share my wins, you know, as somebody who

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Speaker 5: has societally just been.

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Speaker 6: In a box, you know, like I can finally share

801
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Speaker 6: my wins. Oh yeah, No.

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Speaker 5: But he's kind of this old school linebacker that plays

803
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Speaker 5: like his face off and I can't wait to watch

804
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 5: him with Brian Flores.

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Speaker 6: And I think the Vikings, other than the.

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00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 5: Questions about the quarterback who we have to see play

807
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: real football, I think the Vikings are going to pick

808
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 5: up a lot of ways that they You.

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00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: Did nail that Bucks take a wide receiver thing too.

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00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I saw how you tried to be nice about it

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Speaker 1: and say we mentioned that the Bucks may take a ratty,

812
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: but it was you. It was you specifically. I almost

813
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: kind of disagreed with you. What an a and then

814
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: I was an idiot. I think this is a win

815
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: now team. I love this roster. I really love this roster.

816
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Speaker 4: And we get too to see the growth and the

817
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Speaker 4: excitement from the rookie quarterback. I guess i'll call him rookie.

818
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 4: Didn't play, so yeah, he's a rookie to me. There

819
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 4: was little Ben Simmons argument in the NBA. I think

820
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: that's I think he's a rookie.

821
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Speaker 5: Do you guys think he looks like the guy from

822
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Speaker 5: Stranger Thing, Steve the babysitter. JJ McCarthy kind of looks

823
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: like and he goes he's liked Joe. I think is

824
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 5: how you pronounce it? Did a really, really great cover

825
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Speaker 5: of a high song recently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks.

827
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: Like I rarely think people look like other other people.

828
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: I do think like it was it was like a

829
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: jump scare when J. J. McCarthy suddenly appeared.

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Speaker 6: On the side silight made me think of it and

831
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Speaker 6: it was like.

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Speaker 4: Whoa, he still looks he still looks young, but like

833
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: did he grow the hair?

834
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 6: It's the Lettuce man. He's got the Steve Lettuce I think.

835
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Speaker 1: I mean he he is literally four years younger than

836
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck, Like that's a lot of time.

837
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, you're using the Tyler Shuck scale of age

838
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 5: henceforth always.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Chicago Bears. It's Patrick Claibhn's new

840
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: favorite team. For the next two and a half minutes.

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00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: Yes, it's my favorite team.

842
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: I could make a case that it's one of my

843
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: favorite teams just in general, because I see what the

844
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 4: plan is. You start the off season by addressing and

845
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Speaker 4: free agency. The offensive line gives you some luxury to

846
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Speaker 4: come in and make a draft pick. They go with

847
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Speaker 4: Colston Loveland, which my initial reaction was that Ben Johnson,

848
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Speaker 4: if Ben Johnson is the if it's a coordinator the

849
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions or Detroit Lions are there and they want

850
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: to take a tight end. I think they would take

851
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren. I think Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell would

852
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: have wanted Tyler Lawrence Tyler Warren. But this is an

853
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: example of Ben Johnson as his own entity, divorced from

854
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions, the way that this past game is

855
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 4: going to look, and so like, long term, you don't

856
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: know what the Dj Moore situation is going to be.

857
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 4: Luther Burden third comes in, a guy who we didn't

858
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 4: really get to see do a lot of downfield stuff,

859
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: but when he did do it from MISZOI he executed

860
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: very well, had the walkoff game winner against South Carolina,

861
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: and so like, offensively, the Bears start to make the

862
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 4: sense that we thought that they were making last year,

863
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 4: but from a more realistic standpoint.

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00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 5: Which I love, and another quietly on my radar, going

865
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Speaker 5: to be I think a very good pro particularly with

866
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 5: the right coaching staff. Boston College offensive lineman Azzie Trapelo,

867
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 5: whose father may he rest in peace, also played in

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Speaker 5: the NFL. I think that I pic but I think

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Speaker 5: I honestly I know actually for a fact that he

870
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Speaker 5: was actually even higher on a couple of teams boards

871
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 5: than where he was picked, and he reminds some people

872
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 5: of some of these long tackles that are playing right

873
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: now in the NFL. And I think that it's so

874
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 5: interesting because they've they found guys who you can immediately

875
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Speaker 5: see a who they come after in the in Luther

876
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Speaker 5: Burden and Ozzie Trepelo or immediately where they help in

877
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 5: a variety of ways. Colston Lovelin is not just a

878
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 5: pick that helps them at tight end and is a

879
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 5: is a fun weapon for Ben Johnson to deploy. He

880
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 5: also helps their offensive line because he was a really

881
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 5: well rounded blocker as well.

882
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a team and you mentioned Tripela, I

883
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: mean a secon round pick that that means they expect

884
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: them to start at some point, maybe not this year.

885
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: And it's I don't know, you were literally in a

886
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: draft room, so I'm just going to put one and

887
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: one together and guess. But you can't comment that that

888
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: the Rams would have been one of those teams that

889
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: thought of him highly, which is interesting. He loved taking

890
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: defensive tackles early. Shamar Turner was a second round pick.

891
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: That's three straight years they I think they hit on

892
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: Girvon Dexter, but maybe not so much on Zach Pickens

893
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago.

894
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens with the Chicago Bears.

895
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: But it's another roster where you look at it like

896
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: it's very completed. Pour one out for Devin DuVernay and

897
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: alamedas Zakias, who saw Luther Burton come in. People never

898
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: think of like the fourth fifth receivers getting knocked down

899
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: the list, like Justin Watson for instance, signed with the

900
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: Texans thing and I got a chance to maybe play here,

901
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: and then they draft a couple guys and no one

902
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: ever thinks about those guys.

903
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: Devon's is a key as well, Like those guys have

904
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: played a lot of football, That's what I mean. So

905
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 4: like they're gonna find a spot on somebody's roster, okay.

906
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: And it be it might be this roster. I just

907
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: especially Duverney, it feels like he's taking his hand.

908
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 5: And I'll say it once again, congratulations to the Chicago

909
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 5: Bears for winning the off season.

910
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Green Bay Packers, who I think

911
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: have had a good offseason, and I think taking Matthew

912
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Golden in the first round was a nice kind of

913
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: capstone to it. I was really surprised they went back

914
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: to receiver of all positions in the third round, shows

915
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: you how much they really love Saviane Williams. I think

916
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: that's weird news for Jayden Reed, just because I feel

917
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: like those two guys are a little duplicative. Certainly, Dantevian

918
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: Wicks can't be happy about what happened here. Christian Watson's

919
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: in the last year of his rookie deal and is

920
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: not healthy, so they look to build up their receiver group.

921
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: But I think Golden falling to them is really going

922
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: to work out. He doesn't need to be a number

923
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: one receiver, but I think he does more things well

924
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: more completely. At least that's the vision of them than

925
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: maybe anyone else on their roster at wide receiver, where

926
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: it's all these guys who can do certain things but

927
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: maybe can't do everything.

928
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 5: That's why I actually believe he could be the volume one.

929
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 6: Now.

930
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 5: He's not built like a prototypical like long lean perimeter

931
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 5: one that we're sort of sometimes used to seeing, but

932
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 5: in this scheme and with Matt Lafleur, he can do

933
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: so many things well and also will be their pre

934
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 5: snap motion player. He has the speed he has incredibly strong,

935
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 5: consistent hands. He was my wide receiver one of this class,

936
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 5: and I think volume, volume speaking, he could be the

937
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 5: bona fide one that this team has been searching for

938
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 5: y and says very adamantly that no, they're.

939
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 6: Not looking for a one. Yeah, who needs it.

940
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: And regardless of how things turn out, I think positionally right,

941
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: he allows you to do things on offense that maybe

942
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: having Dobs there right or you know, they forced all

943
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 4: those balls to Wix like late in the season, where

944
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 4: there will be a difference in the quality of talent

945
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: in that aspect, and I think Savion Williams is kind

946
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 4: of a luxury pick where, yeah.

947
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: But they need they have things they need on this roster,

948
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: like cornerbacks. I'm beginning to think they're going to help

949
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: fill that need with jay R Alexander. Now it sounds

950
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: like they are trying to resolve it. There was that

951
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: reporting where there was like ninety nine percent he's gone,

952
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: but now it's starting to sound like maybe he's not, which.

953
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 4: I feel like I'll take the I'll take the call

954
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: on that where it's like it just makes more sense

955
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 4: instead of giving yourself another need. Oh no, let's just

956
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 4: keep the player that you have.

957
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 6: I think they're going to Oh no, the board didn't

958
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 6: fall to us to get a cornerback, and we decided

959
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 6: to draft smartly instead of positions. It helps the score points.

960
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 5: And also, by the way, does that mean we have

961
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: to make a phone call and fix our relationship and

962
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 5: be adults.

963
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: That relationship could be fixed.

964
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Yeah.

965
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: I also keep an eye on Anthony Belton, NC State tackle.

966
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: They are so good at developing guys. He could be

967
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: their long term left tackle Rashid Walker in the last

968
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: year of his contract. All right, we've done it. We've

969
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: done three divisions. I did a note card per division.

970
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never gotten that crazy. We're just swimming

971
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: in note cards today. So we're on the fourth note card,

972
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: and let's start with Jordan. I've tried to assign these randomly,

973
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: but it felt weird if someone else had the Rams.

974
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: So you were there. You start with the Rams.

975
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 6: Oh, Jordan's talking about the Rams again. Every single move

976
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 6: the Rams have made since January tell me they believe

977
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 6: they are going to make a legitimate run in twenty

978
00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 6: twenty five.

979
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 5: Have Matthew Stafford back on year to year terms. They

980
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: kept their o line continuity. They added a better communicator

981
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 5: at center who Stafford likes working with, in Coleman Shelton.

982
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 5: Their biggest issue in twenty twenty four, they believe they

983
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 5: fixed it. It was their run defense. They signed Poona Ford,

984
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 5: one of the best run stoppers in the NFL. They

985
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 5: added Ty Hamilton and Chris Paul Junior, respectively, a defensive

986
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 5: tackle who will also back up Poona at the nose.

987
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 5: And Chris Paul Junior, who's one of my favorite linebacker

988
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 5: prospects in the draft. He likes to go by Pooh Paul,

989
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 5: and he is an absolute He's an absolute force as

990
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 5: a tackler.

991
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 6: He does not miss tackles.

992
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 5: They added DeVante Adams, they extended to to at Well

993
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 5: for just a one year deal, and they added Terrence Ferguson,

994
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: who I believe is going to be a hybrid tight

995
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 5: end receiver for them with what McVay wants to do

996
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 5: and play more twelve personnel this year. So basically, they

997
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: tweaked and they pruned and they added in little bits,

998
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 5: and they only had a six member draft class because

999
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 5: for the last two years they've completely rebuilt the core

1000
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 5: of their roster through successful draft classes. Plus they stockpiled

1001
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: future assets, which tells me that a either they're not

1002
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 5: going to have that first that second first round pick

1003
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: by the end of the trade deadline this year, or

1004
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 5: they're going to combine assets and go after a quarterback

1005
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 5: for the post Matthew Stafford era. But before they do,

1006
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 5: they're going to go all in on making a run

1007
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: while they do still have one of the best quarterbacks

1008
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 5: in the NFL in Matthew Stafford.

1009
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: Poo pooh, Paul. I got stuck there. He's awesome, this

1010
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: one Chris Paul. But he's going by Paul Junior.

1011
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 6: He goes by pooh Paul pooh.

1012
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: Fifth round pick. So we'll see.

1013
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: The Rams haven't invested a lot at inside linebacker and this.

1014
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 6: Was their highest.

1015
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: This was stuck in.

1016
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 5: This is their first inside linebacker draft pick since Ernest

1017
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 5: Jones in the third round.

1018
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1019
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if it's a tacit admission the mistakes were

1020
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: made in the past.

1021
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you can't pick up too high otherwise you're

1022
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 6: overtly admitting a mistake. You know, they don't do that there.

1023
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, they have been mentioned as a possible Jalen

1024
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: Ramsey team who knows.

1025
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, the money's going to have to go down on

1026
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 5: their side for that.

1027
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. I think that would be after June one.

1028
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: They do feel unfinished a little bit at cornerback, even

1029
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: receiver depth, although Ferguson helps their swing tackle. Like I

1030
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: look at just in terms of they have the top

1031
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: end players I think better than some of these teams.

1032
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: In terms of complete rosters, I actually don't think they're

1033
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: as complete as some of the very best teams in

1034
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: the NC.

1035
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 6: I agree.

1036
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 5: I always give them into August for this because remember

1037
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 5: they traded for Kevin Dotson a couple of years ago,

1038
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 5: and then that really shored up their own line, and

1039
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 5: then the Jalen Ramsey thing might still happen. I would

1040
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 5: not sleep on Knte Montfield out of pit. If you

1041
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 5: watch tape, he reminds you of a Rams receiver.

1042
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: Okay, and bad news for potential Kyrien Williams extension. They

1043
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, drafting and running back right after they drafted

1044
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: Blake Korman the third round last year.

1045
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: Jack was Harner in the fourth round. This year. We'll

1046
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: see if Kyroen gets that long term deal. All right.

1047
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: The Seahawks, to me, looking at their team My biggest

1048
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: question is just is Clint Kubiak the dude to make

1049
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: this all happen, because they're asked.

1050
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: A lot of him.

1051
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: It looks great on paper, but he's got to develop

1052
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: this offensive line, which the guys before like a lot

1053
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: of mid round picks that weren't maybe performing to their ability.

1054
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: They did pick up Charles Cross's fifth year option. He's

1055
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: probably the one guy they really feel great about. And

1056
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: now they add grades able their first round pick. You know,

1057
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: you add Cooper cup and and Valdas scant Lane and

1058
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: they have a late pick people like in Tory Hunter.

1059
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: Tory Hunt.

1060
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: It's just like a lot of new pieces. Oh and

1061
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: by the way, a new quarterback in Sam Darnold, who's

1062
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: had a very up and down career. And this is

1063
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: a team where all their best players are kind of

1064
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: over the middle to me and intermediate guys. When I

1065
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: think Sam Darnold, I think his strengths not intermediate. And

1066
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: it's just okay, we're gonna throw. And you know, my

1067
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: favorite guy, Jalen Milroe, can he be like a Taysom

1068
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: Hill type of player for them this year as a

1069
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: change of It's just it's a lot on Clint Kubiak,

1070
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: So like, can you make this all happen?

1071
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: Because I think it's a sneaky.

1072
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: Tough job making all of this come together all at once.

1073
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's especially for a you know, a coach that

1074
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 4: just left another spot where things kind of fell horribly

1075
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 4: apart and there were there were injuries, and John Schneider's

1076
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 4: like hands feel more on this than their second year

1077
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 4: head coach, even though they do, you know, get a

1078
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: safety in the second round of NICKI men worry who

1079
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: I love, who is a instant impact player when he

1080
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 4: came on the field at South Carolina. But they get

1081
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 4: the guard that the Seahawks fans have been clamoring for

1082
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 4: in Grey's abel out of North Dakota State. But the

1083
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 4: the Milroe question, I think he does play in what capacity?

1084
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: But if he plays too much, then you.

1085
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: Know, they've kind of hinted already in their in their

1086
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: post draft press conference that he'll play.

1087
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1088
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 5: I look at that coaching staff and I actually immediately

1089
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 5: connect him to a guy like Jake Pets, who is

1090
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 5: one of their past game coordinators, who also has experience

1091
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 5: coming out of Alabama, that Saban system, that entire ECO

1092
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 5: system over there, who you know in the past, I

1093
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 5: would think that when you have two quarterbacks in one

1094
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 5: with incredibly special upside that Jalen Milroe does have, you

1095
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 5: really want to make sure you designate an actual developmental

1096
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 5: program for that player so that they're not just slotting

1097
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: in like a red zone package for you. They're actually

1098
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 5: honing and developing their skills as a passer as well.

1099
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Speaker 1: And when I think that's a luxury Drew Locke actually

1100
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: gives you. Because Drew Locke, you don't get anything. You

1101
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: don't get any snaps. We're going to count on you

1102
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: to actually be the backup quarterback, but we're just going

1103
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: to trust that your time in this league will carry

1104
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: you through while we focus on our guy Sam and

1105
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: our developmental project Jalen.

1106
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Patrick with the forty nine ers.

1107
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Speaker 4: The twenty twenty five in San Francisco forty nine ers

1108
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 4: where it's Kyle wants offensive players.

1109
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 3: They get.

1110
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 4: They get four offensive players in a draft with eleven picks.

1111
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 4: They don't get their They hit their first offensive player

1112
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Speaker 4: pick one thirty eight.

1113
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Speaker 3: It's Jordan Watkins.

1114
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: I felt that taking Michael Williams out of Georgia that

1115
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: was earlier than I expected Michael Williams to go. A

1116
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 4: lot of folks, myself included, felt that he was the

1117
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 4: second best pass rusher on that Kirby Smart defense. But

1118
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 4: it was a position of need that they addressed. They

1119
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: go get Alfred Collins, then Nick Martin. Such a big

1120
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Speaker 4: set of departures, especially veteran departures, a couple of them

1121
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 4: playing for the Broncos now that are going to make

1122
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 4: things tough for Robert Sala in his return to the spot.

1123
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Speaker 4: But it's I think we are in the Operation Blame

1124
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: Brock era where it's gonna be.

1125
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 3: Look, look, guys, were brock.

1126
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: We can only do so much because rock Perty has

1127
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 4: to give has and I'm worried.

1128
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 3: I'm worried.

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00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: You think the forty nine ers are like setting him

1130
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: up to fail or setting them up as an excuse.

1131
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: The excuse feels like it's out there.

1132
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not giving Robert Sala excuses because they

1133
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: gave them five straight defensive picks, So what more do

1134
00:51:59,760 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: you want?

1135
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 5: There was one benefit of getting him back in the building.

1136
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 5: It's like he's probably one of the few people in

1137
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 5: the world it could be like, no, Kyle, we're taking

1138
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 5: defensive players with our first several picks. I love the

1139
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 5: Alfred Collins match to what Robert Sala is gonna do.

1140
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 5: Nick Martin also really fits that sort of all gas,

1141
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: no breaks.

1142
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 6: Robert Sala vibe.

1143
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 5: And then they went traits heavy on their first pick

1144
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 5: in MIKEL Williams. So yeah, Michael Williams. So I think

1145
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 5: that that's I think this is to be expected when

1146
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 5: they're trying to sort of rebuild through the draft as

1147
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: they continue to try to win football games. They pay

1148
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 5: George Kittle, so you can tell that they're trying to

1149
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 5: rebuild on the fly or do one of these like

1150
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 5: sprint rebuilds where a lot of these guys who they

1151
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 5: just drafted, Especially with these first four or five picks,

1152
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 5: I'm looking all the way down to C. J. West,

1153
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 5: so all their defensive picks, and he's one pint thirteen

1154
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 5: out of Indiana, the defensive tackle. Like, these guys are

1155
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 5: going to have to contribute, They're going to have to play,

1156
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 5: and they're going to have to hit that learning curve,

1157
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 5: which is I think Robert sala is a heck of

1158
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 5: a coach, but I think you got the right guy

1159
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 5: in there to help them do it.

1160
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: Offense has a lot of talent. It's all guys that

1161
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: were there a year ago. There's no real turnover. They

1162
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: just have to stay healthy and Kyle's going to have

1163
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: to cook it up. And you mentioned Kittle got paid. Yeah,

1164
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, they gave him a long term extension. The

1165
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: details aren't quite out there. It seems a little phony,

1166
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: but certainly guaranteed money for the next couple of years.

1167
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: Well deserved for George Kittle. He's not going anywhere.

1168
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: We wrap up the division with Jordan and her favorite

1169
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: team in NFC West. Yes, the Arizona Cardinals. I was

1170
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: just joking, but you seem to take that seriously.

1171
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 6: Maybe this year they won't let me down. Greg. This

1172
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 6: defense is on my radar.

1173
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 5: He knew heading into free agency that Jonathan Gannon was

1174
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 5: going to be super aggressive on defense, especially with all

1175
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 5: those former Eagles players that were gonna potentially hit free agency,

1176
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 5: and after spending the last two years with defensive coordinator

1177
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 5: Nick rallis experimenting with a very subpar roster, which Patrick

1178
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 5: has a great nickname for one of my favorites that

1179
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 5: I've ever heard in the search bar. And they've tried

1180
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 5: to experiment fit and fiddle around and see what worked

1181
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: and what didn't work, and so now they're ready to

1182
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 5: show proof of concept, and I am ready to see it.

1183
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 5: They added six defensive players in seven picks to a

1184
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 5: group that already included Buddha Baker, Kalais Campbell, and Josh Sweat.

1185
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 5: They did so in multiple layers, which I really like

1186
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 5: when a team drafts this way, they address multiple layers

1187
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 5: of whether it's the passing game on the offensive side

1188
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 5: where they're building out the field in different layers, or

1189
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 5: on the defensive side when they're going from Walter Nolan

1190
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 5: and Jordan Birch up front to taking a flyer on

1191
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 5: a banged up Will Johnson, who we also you and

1192
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 5: I both together predicted he would be a fit for

1193
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 5: the Cardinals. And then Cody Simon at inside. I know, hey,

1194
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 5: well let it slide.

1195
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: I credit.

1196
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 6: I need a win. The world is hard. I need

1197
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 6: a win.

1198
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 5: Cody Simon, the inside linebacker, I also think, is gonna

1199
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 5: be a player who gets more time than people expect.

1200
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 5: I'm excited about this defense, I really am, because we

1201
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 5: know what they want to try to be on offense,

1202
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 5: and they need to make sure that they're not just

1203
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 5: like hit a wall and petering out, especially in the

1204
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 5: passing game. But this defense has been sort of anonymously

1205
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 5: and under the radar, just like operating like a massive

1206
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 5: science experiment. And I think they're ready to show actually what.

1207
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: They can do. They need to.

1208
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: That's where all the investment went this offseason. I counted

1209
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: like they have at least seven new major contributors if

1210
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: you include guys coming back off injury like bj Ojulari,

1211
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: who was a good passer. We're on the offense the

1212
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: entire starting eleven that's projected at least in our alides

1213
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: was on the on the team last year. And it's

1214
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: not like you know, they were eleventh in DVOA last year.

1215
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: They're counting on just getting better. We've had a lot

1216
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: of like Kyler better prove it years, but this is

1217
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: a big year I think for their offense too, because

1218
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: they basically said, we've built a good enough team around

1219
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: Kyler and we want continuity and go Cook and I

1220
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: think they could.

1221
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 6: And I want to say too.

1222
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: And I don't have his contract pulled up in front

1223
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 5: of me, but I do believe this is the last

1224
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 5: technically the last year where he any guarantees left on

1225
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 5: his contract, if not the last year actually on that contract.

1226
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 6: So this is a big year for Kyler.

1227
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: If you want to talk about the Cardinals, we have

1228
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: one time out remaining.

1229
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: That was the last team here.

1230
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: I just wanted to say a lot of the Will

1231
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 4: Johnson injury concerns were projections of like a potential future injury,

1232
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 4: and like.

1233
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 3: You could do that for the entire NFL. That was

1234
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 3: weird to me.

1235
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 4: He had a hamstring, which a lot of guys get

1236
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 4: hamstring during draft prep, but it just created this cloud.

1237
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 4: That's a huge value that they got.

1238
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Kyler does have his salary guaranteed next year, but at

1239
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: any point until this year, it would have been completely

1240
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: impossible to move off him. And other than that, his

1241
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: salary is guaranteed next year, which is not a prohibitive

1242
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: salary at all, thirty six point eight million dollars.

1243
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: There's no more guaranteed.

1244
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 6: Okay, that's what it was.

1245
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it basically, if for whatever reason they wanted

1246
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: to see if there was a trademarket for Kyler, they

1247
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: really couldn't have done it until twenty twenty six. And

1248
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: they absolutely could with you know, they would say money

1249
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: next year.

1250
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 2: I don't.

1251
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen because I think

1252
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: he is going to play well. I have a feeling

1253
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: this podcast is going to be pretty high on the Cardinals.

1254
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 2: But we'll see.

1255
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: Maybe Patrick won't, maybe Weisch won't, maybe Colleen won't. Shout

1256
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: out to Colleen on Good Morning Football all week, just

1257
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: soldier un through. Those are early days.

1258
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: That's it's a lot. It's a lot.

1259
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 6: I'm learning.

1260
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: You gotta get up, you gotta get up early and

1261
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: go h make the donuts. All right, that was it

1262
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: for today's show. We will be back with a show

1263
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: that feels very similar to this one that'll be going

1264
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: all around talking about the AFC H and yes, looking

1265
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: forward to that and just looking forward to spending more

1266
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: time with you guys.

1267
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's an honor.

1268
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: Just fill it up a little, you know. I was

1269
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: waiting for the thing to go.

1270
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know

1271
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: Like look when JJ McCarthy is on the field and

1272
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: throwing the football to Jordan Addison, that is like an

1273
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: ultimate actual football is back.