1 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: We are alive from the NFL Owners meetings here in Phoenix. 2 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: ERR's own to Eric Ellen alongside Jason Lachan for a 3 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: CBS Sports We're streaming not only on the web website, 4 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: but on Facebook, so you can send in your questions 5 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: and comments as well throughout the stream. It's going to 6 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: be an action pack forty five minutes or so because 7 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: Jason is here. Then John McClain from the Houston Chronicle 8 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: will join us as well, Vick Carucci the Buffalo News. 9 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: Finally Barry Wilner or the Associated Press. We're probably stopped 10 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: by as well. We're sponsored today by Bridge Stone. It's 11 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: the official tire of the New York Jets. Jason Um 12 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: First things first, all the buzz today is about the 13 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: early vote here concerning the Raiders. It looks like they'll 14 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: be making the move to Las Vegas. Yeah, yeah, they will. 15 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: The owners just walk down. Sure you saw the procession 16 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: from one meeting room to another, and I would think 17 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: by the time they break for lunch that they will 18 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: have voted with some contingencies for the Raiders to move 19 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. There's gonna have to be some stipulations 20 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: that they meet in terms of the final lease agreements. 21 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: There's the debt ratios. Some things that are still um, 22 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, I guess I'll call them minor hurdles that 23 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: Mark Davis will have to clear down the road, but 24 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: contingent upon him hitting those benchmarks which are fully expected. Um, 25 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: then yeah, it's a go. And they'll get shovels in 26 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: the ground and they'll be, you know, trying to have 27 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: a stadium ready for the start of the season. It 28 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: would be an utter and complete shock if anything other 29 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: than that took place sooner rather than later. And Uh, 30 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: I guess Hidi game no more. I guess any Hidie 31 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: Bowls starting two years from now and moving on will 32 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: be uh. In Vegas, I'll tell you what the Jets do. 33 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: Are supposed to go to Oakland in two thousand seventeen. Yeah, 34 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: it's It's would be very difficult to um to change 35 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: anything up there. Look, they can go year to year 36 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: in the lease, so they've already executed, They've done all 37 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: the paperwork to be able to play in Oakland. How 38 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: feasible will that be being in aime doc franchise in 39 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: a city that cares so deeply for them? Knowing that 40 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: this team is on an upswing and they're about to leave. 41 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how tenable that's going to be. UM. 42 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: Those are some issues that the league will have time 43 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: to resolve. I would think by the fall meeting UM, 44 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: which is usually in October, that there might be some 45 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: more UH. I guess more of a front burner issue 46 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: in terms of Okay, what are we doing beyond are 47 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: we really going to stay in Oakland for two years 48 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: with this hanging over everybody's heads? But right now it's 49 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: just it's about this vote. It's about seven and fifty 50 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: million dollars in free money, and it's about a sweetheart 51 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: stadium deal and exploring this new market. So you're gonna 52 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: be on your phone and you might have to leave 53 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: at any point if this vote does come down. But 54 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: like Jason just said, Jets fans, if you're planning and 55 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: going to Northern California next year, you're good. That'll probably 56 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: be your last chance. Well what do you think, Jason 57 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: about the league going to Las Vegas. Uh, there's some 58 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: owners who are voting yes are going to vote yes 59 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: with some trepidation. I expect that a few owners will 60 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: at least express some reservations on the record in front 61 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: of the full group just to say, you know, not 62 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: that you want to say I told you so, but 63 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: you want to say, look, okay, I understand why we're 64 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: doing this, but let's also realize that we are going 65 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: from a top five TV market to the forty nine 66 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: TV market. We're going from a demographic that's booming in 67 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: terms of the local economy and it's a it's a 68 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: business incubator in the Bay Area and things are thriving 69 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: from a business standpoint. We're going to a market where 70 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: it's it's gaming and it's gaming and it's gaming. So 71 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, you look at the foreclosure rate in Vegas 72 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: and some things like that that way way one person 73 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: described to be corom ANITIP group. So there's a lot 74 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: of guys who are kind of holding their nose and 75 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: doing this because the momentums, they're enough votes are probably 76 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: there um regardless of one or two people who you know, 77 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: really dissenting and voting against it, But ten years from now, 78 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: they're going to regret it. You know, what is the 79 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: Vega market look like ten years from now? Um has 80 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: some of the lower worn off. What's the attendance like 81 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: when these initial sponsorships expire. Are they able to get 82 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: the prices they want, you know, ten and fifteen years 83 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: down the road. There's a lot of questions there. But 84 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: but but it's happening. It's gonna be fascinating. And again 85 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: that vote could be taking places. They is expected to 86 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: be taking place right now. So you might be hearing 87 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: news from Jason Lucan for here from the CBS Sports 88 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: at any moment, as far as the Raiders going to 89 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, anything jump out at you. As far as 90 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: rules changes, it seems like the league's big initiative this 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: year is improving the pace bay. Yeah, that's from good 92 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: commissioner on down. You talk to people at Park Avenue 93 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: leading up to this meeting, they would tell you that's 94 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: the new buzz word. You know. Every year he kind 95 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: of has a focus on certain innovations or certain areas 96 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: he wants the league to not should say focus on, 97 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: because they're exploring all these things, but where you can 98 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: tell he's really behind it, and it is, you know, 99 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: the movement to London and that's still a foot you know, 100 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: but and continuing to add games there in international right 101 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: in Mexico. So you heard that player health and safety 102 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: is always a buzzword you're gonna hear. Um. A few 103 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: years back, it was a lot about incentivizing the in 104 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: game experience for fans, right, improving infrastructure and WiFi in 105 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: these stadiums so you can get your Fantasy football updates 106 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: the same way at the Jets game as you could 107 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: on your couch. Sure, and this particular meeting, it really 108 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: is going to be a lot about pace of play, 109 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: making games quicker, making games more action pack eliminating some 110 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: of the back to back commercial breaks, changing the commercial 111 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: pods in terms of um, how those are structured, and 112 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: maybe they'll be fewer pods, but they'll be longer um. 113 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: And then obviously you've got issues like shortening over time, 114 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: which they say is health and safety, and yeah it is, 115 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: but from it made also it also trims you know, 116 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: trim's time off the possible you know, the full allotment 117 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: of game time has been trimmed down. Uh, and I 118 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: would expect that that that might go through, given again 119 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: how much Park Avenue is sort of pushing this. Alright, 120 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: let's talk some Jets. Uh, they add a veteran quarterback, 121 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: which we expected Josh McCown, What the can Jets fans 122 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: expect from him now is he joins his ton NFL team, 123 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: great dude, beloved by all his teammates. Has really been 124 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: someone who has made the most of second and third chances. 125 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, five years ago he's coaching high school football, 126 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, and then he was able to have this 127 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: second renaissance. Hasn't taken it for granted at all. Super 128 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: Smart will be great in that quarterback room with all 129 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks, and I expect him to draft one 130 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: pretty high as well, So you know that I don't 131 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: think that quarterback room is the finished product, but by 132 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: a large stretch right now. But yeah, he's a bridge quarterback, 133 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, if it depending how high they take and 134 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: who they take, he can be very good for eight games, 135 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: maybe twelve games. You asked for more than that. And 136 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: then he's an older guy. He's been injury prone. You know, 137 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: he's taken a beating over the years. So is he 138 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: got you gonna give you more than a season? Are 139 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna get sixteen games at them? Sixteen starts time 140 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: if you need It remains to be seen about durability. 141 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: But the thinking in my estimation is that's a guy 142 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: who will play at a high level for half a 143 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: season or more, and then by then, depending on how 144 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: the team's doing, depending on how whoever they draft is developing, 145 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: maybe that movements a foot in your mind. Al was 146 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: he the perfect guy for the Jets in the situation 147 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: they're in right now? I've got a pair of young quarterbacks. 148 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Jeremy Bates, new quarterbacks coach, gonna be coming in and 149 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: working with the Bryce Petty and Christian Hackenburg. Uh. But 150 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: with that being said, um, do you believe I think 151 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: I gotta go? Okay? We got some news outside. Jason 152 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: luck on four is a book at outside right now. 153 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: It's live at the Owner's Meetings New York Chess dot 154 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: com and you're watching here on the site and on 155 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: Facebook just discussing the Jets edition of Josh McCown. That's 156 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: what everybody says about the veteran quarterback who will be 157 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: joining his to NFL team. Is that great presence in 158 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: the locker room. This is the guy you want around 159 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. Again, the Jets have Bryce Petty and Christian 160 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: Hackerberg combined four NFL games started. Uh. John McClean from 161 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle is gonna be popping on right now. 162 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: You're watching live in New York just a and Facebook, 163 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: So coming in on Facebook and sending your questions as well. 164 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: Coming in. John McClean, who's the godfather of all these 165 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: events Houston Chronicle, a long time UH writer for the 166 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Chronicle of not just covering the Texans but the National 167 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 1: Football League. John, Great to see you, UH, knowing you 168 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: for a long time. This is our first adventure for 169 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: us though to the NFL owners meetings. You've been coming 170 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: to this event for how long? Oh over over maybe 171 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: about thirty five years. Used to be here the building 172 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: we're here, that the Billmore is not here. It was 173 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: all grass. The main building was here, and then they 174 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: added is and they've added other, uh other buildings as 175 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: part of the complex, and of course the most impressive 176 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: things that big Regularly mansion on top of the hill. 177 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I can imagine what it was like here when Phil 178 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: Regularly built that place, back before any of this was here. 179 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: But it it's magnificent, does a great area, and I 180 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: know you love getting some warm weather. Considering what's like that, 181 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: I certainly do. I feel bad for the folks back 182 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: in Jersey. I think it's you know, a bad cold 183 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: and rainy today Hey, John Um in Houston. You got 184 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: to know and judge GM Mike mcagnant quite a bit. 185 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: Uh what do you think about the job he's done 186 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: so far here with the Jets? Is this is a 187 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: team entering a transition, as you know, getting younger and 188 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: trying to build through the drafts. Ten wins the first 189 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: year took some bumps and Bruce's last year, and now 190 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna try to build this restaurant. Erica 191 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: was really happy so the Jets win those ten games. 192 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: I was happy for Mike Todd Bowle has been the 193 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: first being head coach for the Jets in his first season. 194 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: And I was happy for Ryan Fitzpatrick because he had 195 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: been in Houston and everybody really likes fitzing and of 196 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: course he parlayed that in a pretty good contract last year. 197 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: But everything seemed to be right for the world. But 198 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: I think everybody also knew the Jets had a lot 199 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: of issues and they surfaced last year. And as the 200 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Jets know, like the Texans note, you got to have 201 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback and Texas don't have a quarterback. Jets are 202 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: still looking for a quarterback. Both those teams may draft 203 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round, and um, I know, 204 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: despite how many quarterbacks you have, Mike, I think will 205 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: always be on the lookout for one. Michael is a 206 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: really good personnel guy in Houston, and he was always 207 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: a behind the scenes guy. His goal was to be 208 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: a general manager. He went about it the right way. 209 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: He knows personnel. Now I'm not familiar enough with the 210 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: coaching staff to know the coaching staff, but I do 211 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: know Mike Cagnet and I can tell you this. He 212 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing when it comes to personnel. But 213 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: as you know, where there's a lot more that goes 214 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: into it than simply personnel. Yeah, this is the guy 215 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: who's been covering the National Football League in it out 216 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: for more than three decades. So when he tells that 217 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: he knows personnel, this guy knows what he's talking about. 218 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of personnel, the Jets ended a veteran quarterback and 219 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: Josh McCown. Uh. They got a pair of young quarterbacks 220 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: on the roster, a guy from bell Or that you 221 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: know very well, and Bryce Petty and then Christian Hackenburgh. 222 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: What do you think about the addition of McCown. Mcagnant 223 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: said the other day that it's a perfect pairing with 224 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: our young quarterbacks to get a veteran presence in there. 225 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Even though McCown's already he hadn't been used up, you know, 226 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: and played a whole lot in his career and as 227 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: far as full seasons, he's like another coach. You know, 228 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: you're paying him to help with Patty and Ackenburg. I 229 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: thought for a while, it takes us my draft Ackenburg 230 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: because his best or of Penn State was his freshman 231 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: year with l O'Brien. He was so good with O'Brien, 232 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: people are talking about him being the first overall pick 233 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: when he would come out after his junior year. Then 234 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: he was not as good under James Franklin. And I 235 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: think a lot of people were shocked when the Jets 236 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: drafted him in the second round last season, but obviously 237 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: they saw something that make them want to do it. 238 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: Petty has been heard, as you know, and I watched 239 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: every game, just about every game Bryan's playing at Baylor, 240 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: and I often wondered about the transition from Baylor's system 241 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: under our brows to the NFL. But you know, you've 242 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: got a little glimpse of what he could do last year, 243 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: and I hope that if they draft a quarterback, Bryance 244 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: is not the odd man out because you'd have one 245 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 1: too many. And um, but I think for as a 246 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: stop gap or bridge as they call somebody like McCown, 247 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: I think you're not gonna get anybody better. I don't 248 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: know how much interest they had and Jake Cutler. Don't 249 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: know if Cutler is interested in having that that role 250 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: of being a bridge quarterback to somebody else right now. 251 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: He better be because he doesn't have a job. But 252 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: McCown would be perfect for what they want him to do. 253 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: How about Morris Clayborne played with Cowboys uh top of 254 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: the draft pick a few years back, struggled with injuries, 255 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: but the Jets are very confident in their medical team. 256 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: This looks like one of those low reward, high risk signing. 257 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: One of the things about Clayborn Jerry traded. I believe 258 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: it to the trade up and get him, and he 259 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: was never as good as he should have been or 260 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: as they expected him to be. Now last year in 261 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: contract here, you know he played better than he had 262 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: in a couple of years. And I don't know if 263 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: it was health or I don't know if it's because 264 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: it was a contract here I'm always suspicious of players 265 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: who play well in their contract here, and I'm also 266 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: suspicious of players who don't play well in their contract here. 267 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: And you're like, hey, don't you understand this situation? But 268 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: you see that too. So the fact is he showed 269 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: that he can do it if he wants to do 270 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: But hopefully he'll stay well and that'll be a good 271 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: deal for the Jets. You were an indie, um you 272 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: talk about the Jets potentially adding even another quarterback to 273 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: the mix, and Mike mcagnan was forthright about that the 274 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: other day, said, yeah, if we got McCown in here, 275 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: but all options are on the table. Obviously we're not 276 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: likely to add another veteran quarterback, but we could draft 277 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: another one. What do you make of the quarterback class 278 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: here as we approached the draft? It's only a few 279 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: weeks away now. First of all, uh, people always downgrade 280 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: quarterback classes unless there's a camp miss guy like Andrew 281 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Luck And something I've never understood. Now this is my 282 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: thirty eighth year of covering the NFL. Why is it 283 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: at this time of year they only look for arm 284 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: strength and size, but accuracy and decision making those are 285 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: what's set the quarterbacks apart. And it's just amazing that 286 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: at this point guys in their shorts and tea shirts 287 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: can go up and down even though they haven't thrown 288 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: a football in a game that mattered since a bowl 289 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: game or an All Star game or a regular season. 290 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: And yet you do see guys going up and down, 291 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: and you wonder, why could they do a worse job 292 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: scouting quarterbacks if there was no UH pro Day, there 293 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: was no private workouts, there's no combine. You just watched 294 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: film of what they did in college, would it be 295 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: any worse? I don't think so. They spent millions and millions, 296 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: and then they make all these picks that are bad, 297 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: most quarterbacks that don't pan out. I believe Eric. And 298 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: this is what I've noticed through the years. If you 299 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: see a quarterback, everybody's high on any moms out, it's 300 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: not his fault. It's usually the fault to the team. 301 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Bad coaching, bad system. UH inpatient owner gets rid of 302 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: the coaches and the coordinators, and that can screw them 303 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: up big time. Where if they have some consistency instability, 304 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: and they have good coaches and sit in the system 305 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: fits their strengths and the coaches are smart enough to 306 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: maximize the strengths and minimize the way. He just says 307 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: the guy can be successful. So I always blame teams 308 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: just as much. Houston Texans, I thought screwed up David 309 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: Carr after his third year when he had his best season, 310 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: and so people look back on him as being a 311 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: huge bust. Well, if he's a huge bust, it has 312 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: to say slash Texans because they screwed it up just 313 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: as much as he did. In my mind. Okay, so 314 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: you're a Texas guy and the Jets new quarterbacks coach 315 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: is a guy by the name of Jeremy Bates. He 316 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: attended Rice. He's had a baseball player. If the Jets 317 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: ever have a company softball team, they should get Jeremy Bates. 318 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: On his swimming he can still swing swing a stick, 319 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: but he's had some success in the National Football League. 320 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: You mentioned Cutler before, but he also worked with McCown, 321 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: so that continuity, the consistency should help the Jets. What 322 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: do you expect with Bates with a couple of these 323 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, and maybe if the Jets potentially add a 324 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: third young quarterback and a new offensive courting entering Sean Morton, 325 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: who hasn't called place since uh USC, but he's worked 326 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: with various minds, intelligent minds throughout the National Football League. 327 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: When you're thinking about Hardball and John Gruden and Sean Peyton. 328 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: First of all, too many inexperienced quarterbacks is like a 329 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: salad with too much lattuce. It's just too much green. Um, 330 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: you don't want too many young guys having to teach them. Now, Jeremy, 331 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: I have seen Jeremy and so long. I don't know 332 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: what at this point in his career what he's gonna 333 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: bring to the table. Uh, Morton, Either, you're running a 334 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: big risk when you have two guys UH coming in 335 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: new and giving them young guys to work with. May 336 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: work out, may work out great, But Uh, I like 337 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: a little experience in there at what they're doing. And 338 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: and McCown. And I know I've said this before, Eric, 339 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: but I gotta tell you when you're talking about Bates 340 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: and Morton, my cown might be you know, the Carly mccoach. 341 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: But I'll guarantee it. Haggenbury and Petty will start talking 342 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: at some point, and once they get to know him 343 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: in the offseason program, they're gonna say, he's like a 344 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: coach on the field, he's like a coach in the 345 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: dressing room, the leadership. But also if they ask him 346 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: for advice, and he's not going to teach him the 347 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: opposite of the coaches, and he's not gonna get in 348 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: the way of the coaches. But he can do things 349 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: that he's learned on the field that play in that 350 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: position that the others have not. And uh, I'm really 351 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: impressed with McCown, not so much what he might do 352 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: on the field, but what he can do to help 353 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: the younger players and be as we said, And Bred's quarterback, 354 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: and you asked me about the quarterbacks in his draft, 355 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm not When you bring in a new coordinator, a 356 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: new quarterback coach, you never know what their philosophy is 357 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: for sure. So I'd like to see do what they 358 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: want a guy like Watson if he's there, what they 359 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: want a Trobiskie if he's there, because they're two different 360 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: type of guy. All Right, we are live at the 361 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: NFL Owners meetings. Eric Allen here alongside John McClean from 362 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle. A lot of news happened in this morning. 363 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: CBS Sports is Jason la Confora was with us before. 364 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: The Caruci from the Buffalo News is gonna pop on by. 365 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: You're watching on Facebook as well. You can send in questions, 366 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: get your comments, uh on the stream as well. Bridge Stone, 367 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: It's the official tire of the New York Jets. John, 368 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: you know how the NFL Hall of Fame selection process works. 369 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: So us in jets Land want to know about Joe Klecko. Um, 370 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: how potentially um could he get himself in via the 371 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: seniors process? Joe is his modern era eligibility expired, right, 372 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: and so now he's in what wait? What Paul Zimmerman 373 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: always called the swamp because there's so many good players 374 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: who get overlooked, Like Joe Coleco is a great player. 375 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: But excuse me, my phone keeps going off here. I 376 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: apologize Joe Coleco. I think can build some momentum. But 377 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: the problem is there's so many guys who have been 378 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: in a senior swamp, so to speak, longer than Gleco. 379 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: And I always tell players be patient, don't give up. 380 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: In in Joe's case, they're nine members of that senior committee. Uh. 381 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: What it takes is somebody to take the bull by 382 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: the horns on a on a candidate and run with it. 383 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: I've been doing that in recent years with Robert Brazil, 384 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: the great outside linebacker for the Houston Oilers during the 385 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: Love You Blue period, and right Robert has been the 386 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: last Oilers I'll be pushing for the Hall of Fame. 387 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: And so he's been waiting a long time on the 388 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: Seniors committee. So you gotta be patient, and you've got 389 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: to get somebody behind you to start spreading the word 390 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: and reminding people who this guy was. What do you accomplished? 391 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: We all covered him, we all know about him, but 392 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: he's been out for so long. Sometimes you just gotta 393 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: be refreshed. Yeah, so so clickho, like you said, refreshed 394 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: seventy seven and a half sacks over his tenure career, 395 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: that second all time on the Jets list. Uh Anthony 396 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: Anthony Munios, Uh Munio said, Clecko right up there with 397 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: Bruce Smith as far as uh pass rusher is concerned, 398 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: and of course the co founder of the New York Exchange. Well, 399 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: for for I believe that Monio is the best left 400 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: tack on football. And for him to compare Clecko to 401 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: Bruce Smith as a pass rusher, that's a that is 402 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: a pretty impressive UM recommendation by Anthony Munios, and those 403 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: the kind of things you need if you're gonna be 404 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: a viable candidate. Yeah, and four Pro Bowls for Clicko 405 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: at three different positions BC he played and defensive tackle 406 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: and knows as well, so versatile player for that's exchange. Well, 407 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: I know, since you got all that information in there, 408 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: you should send it to me and we'll see we 409 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: can get people talking about joke like we're to do 410 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: that UM tomorrow Todd Bowls will address the media as well. 411 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: Every FC head coach at the breakfast here in Phoenix 412 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: at the NFL Owners meetings. What's that like for people 413 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: at home? We'll probably uh, don't know what's going on 414 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: from you from your perspective being in the media and 415 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: being here so long. What's it like the FC coaching breakfast? 416 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Most coaches feel like that breakfast where they have to 417 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: sit for an hour and listen to the media at 418 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: their table asking them questions. It's like sitting in a 419 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: doll chair and when you're about to get a root canal. 420 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: If you look at some of them, they enjoy it. 421 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: Most of them don't. Build Belichick is not even gonna 422 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: show up Bills doing something I don't know scouting. I'm 423 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: guessing you don't want to talk about Jersey Yate and 424 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler and and uh, all the things they got 425 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: going with New England right now. But it's funny to 426 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: watch these guys. They are a captive audience and if 427 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: you've got something going on, like controversial, you just creatd 428 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: teeth there like this, like you as Bill O'Brien by 429 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: brock Osweiler, He's gonna say a hundred times, we moved on, 430 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: we moved on, We've moved on, and uh, but I 431 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: think it's a great thing because you can get stuff 432 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: on him. Like one of the things I'm gonna ask 433 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: ANFC South coaches for a story I have going this 434 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: weekend is about the improvement of the division with all 435 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: these moves the other three teams have made in free agency, 436 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: and the Texans have lost three starters on defensive not 437 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: signed one player, and so that's there's a lot of 438 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: stories to be at Eric. And if it's a lot 439 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: of things going on, they're all gonna be asked about Vegas. 440 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: They're all gonna be asked about road trips to Las Vegas. 441 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: So we'll hear a lot about that. Uh, we'll here 442 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: in the NFC breakfast, Jason Garrett's kind of here a 443 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: million questions about Tony Romo, and he's gonna say, I 444 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: don't know, talk to Jerry. I don't know, talk to Jerry. 445 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: So it's it's and I don't know exactly. Todd Bowles 446 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: be asked about the draft, He'll be asked about Free 447 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: Azacy Vegas. He'll be asked about anything in the division. 448 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: And they'll be asked over and over and over. And 449 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: I admire a lot of them being able to get 450 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: through it. But when they tell those coaches, okay, coaches, 451 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: time to go, we never You'll never see Todd Bowls 452 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: move that fast since he was a player. And what 453 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: about Wednesday. We're talking about it yesterday when the owners 454 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: leave on Wednesday? What's the scene like when the owners 455 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: leave the meetings. You know they've all got their limos 456 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: to the airport in their private jet. And if you 457 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: ever want to see munch NFL owners together, stand up 458 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: right as they're coming out because they're all in a hurry. 459 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: These guys move faster to get out of here. Is 460 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: every year they want out, they want to get gone 461 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: and you'll see these old guys moving like they did 462 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: forty at fifty years ago. That's John McClain from the 463 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle, real real quickly. I don't want to bury 464 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: your lead. In Houston, everybody is watching the quarterback position 465 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: for the Texans. So what do you make where they 466 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: are right now? And uh, what do you expect from 467 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones when he addresses the Tony Romo situation because 468 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: he's still under contract with the dallascout Boys. So first 469 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: of all, nobody from the Texans or Broncos or anybody 470 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: can even mention Tony Romans's under contract. Nobody has a 471 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: clue what Jerry Jones is thinking. And I think Jerry 472 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: likes this because he's the center of attention. And I 473 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: believe if he's released Houston, Denver will try to get him, 474 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: and I believe Houston will get him, but he will 475 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: have to do a contract that gives a lot of 476 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: bonus money based on him being healthy every week. They're 477 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: not gonna give him a lot of money and as 478 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: signing bonus for a base salary. They just got out 479 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: from under one bad quarterback contract. They're not about getting 480 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: another one two years in a row yep. And you know, 481 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: I think Jets fans can actually look at a Houston 482 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: team to say, hey, listen, this is a team over 483 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: years that building themselves up through the draft, and now 484 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: they look like they could be a contender potentially for 485 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 1: the next few years. You said contender, what for the playoffs? 486 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: For the right right in the next I'm not saying 487 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: Eric's Super Bowl contender with Tony Romo. They got too 488 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: many other holes. But you said it, people, I'm saying defensive, 489 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: I'm saying they should be a playoff contender for the 490 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: next few years. They should be. They've they've been. They've 491 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: won a division for the last six years, won four 492 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: three playoff games. They've won more playoff games and the 493 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys since the Texas have been in existence. That's John 494 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: mcclan you can follow him at the Houston Chronicle. Of course, 495 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: been covering the National Football League for thirty eight years. 496 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: Think about that for a second, thirty eight years. Thank 497 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: you so much. It was a great Eric, Thank you 498 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: very much. That's John McClain from the Euston Chronicle. You're 499 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: watching live on New York Jets dot Com and also Facebook. 500 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: You can sending questions on Facebook or just sending your 501 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: comments as well. Jason lachanfora was here with us, and 502 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: so was the aforementioned John McClain, the Parucci from the 503 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo who was gonna step in for a moment. And 504 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: I will probably end our morning stream today with Barry 505 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: Wilner from Associated Press. Barry used to cover the Jets 506 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: speed now he's covering the National Football League. Uh most 507 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: of uh everything major in the National Football League, says 508 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: Barry's at So of course he's here in Phoenix, Arizona today. 509 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles once again, we'll address the media tomorrow at 510 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: the a f C Coaches Breakfast right here. That's gonna 511 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: air live on New York Just dot com and our 512 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Facebook page at ten fifteen Eastern, So that's gonna be 513 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: early morning for all of us here seven fifteen, and 514 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: then we'll come back with another stream on Jets dot 515 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Com at one pm Eastern time PM Pacific if you 516 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: are here on a in the Pacific time zone. Here 517 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: it comes my good buddy right now, Vick Grucci from 518 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: the Buffalo News, who how many owners meetings is this 519 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: for you? Now? Eric? First of all, great to be 520 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: with you. Uh, this would be My first one would 521 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: have been back in two so I've lost count of 522 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: the years, but I think that puts the number in 523 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: the in the mid thirties something like that. Well, you know, 524 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: the one thing that hasn't changed is they picked great locations. 525 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: And I believe my first, the first one that I 526 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: covered was was here was that this Arizona Biltmore which 527 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: really dramatically hasn't changed as a as a facility, and 528 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: they're always on these post beautiful grounds. Um. But what 529 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: has changed, absolutely or the shar number of media who 530 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: cover uh these and and I think that's the big 531 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: thing is you know, outlets, team outlets. You didn't have 532 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: that back in the day, team media like this and 533 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: others uh, and you certainly didn't have the just the 534 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: proliferation of reporters and photographers, et cetera. Let me jump 535 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: around a little bit right now, Um, Joe Clecko is 536 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: eligible now to be uh evaluated by the NFL Seniors 537 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: Committee for the Hall of Fame. Right, what did you 538 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: think about Cleco as a player and potentially now getting 539 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame through the Seniors Committee. Well, 540 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: I feel very good about Joe as a Hall of Famer. 541 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel he fits the criteria if you' 542 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, I always kind of just break it down 543 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: very simply. Does he you know, similar to you know it? 544 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: Does it walk like a duck? You know, sound like 545 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: a duck, and you know, etcetera, etcetera. In the case 546 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: of Joe Clecko, um the body of work. Uh and 547 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: and having witnessed a great really his entire career, covered 548 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: his entire career um while covering the NFL, I've seen 549 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: that dominant player. And I also see a player who 550 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: made others around him better. That's one of the things 551 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: you check off on the box. What kind of impact? 552 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: Can you talk about the history of the game without 553 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: mentioning his impact? And I think he was the type 554 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: of player that, in his his playing style and his 555 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: success influenced other teams to look for their version of 556 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: Joe Cleco and they weren't easy to find. So four 557 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: times yeah, yeah, rare rare a half career sacks and 558 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: then one of the key figures up there for the 559 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: second change, the sack exchange. Isn't the sack exchange? I 560 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: don't believe without Joe Klecko. Yes, Mark Gastineau got the 561 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: numbers and and a lot of the attention. But Joe 562 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: was such a force. So and in talking with other 563 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, players who played against him or fellow defensive 564 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: defensive lineman on other teams, the fred smerlass Is of 565 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: the World, for instance, who played in Buffalo, and I 566 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: know quite well they sing Joe's praises. So as a 567 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: senior consideration, I think in my mind he would have 568 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: a good chance. But I'm just one of the voters. 569 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: The winds that change constant International Football League on in Buffalo. 570 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: You have a new coach that you're covering and Sean McDermott, Um, 571 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: what have you been. What's your first impressions as the 572 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: rookie coach. I'm extremely impressed with how he handles himself. Um. 573 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: He is an absolute pro and everything he does, he 574 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: is a you know, a very highly disciplined guy. Uh 575 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: goes back to his background as a as a standout wrestler. Uh. 576 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: You know, at the high school level, and you know, 577 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: of course play ball at William and Mary played football there. 578 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: But you could tell and I met him at a 579 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: very early time in his career with the Eagles, this guy, 580 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: um just has that vision. He sees it. He pours 581 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: the work, you know, the effort into it. Uh. And 582 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: and again major change from what was there under Rex. 583 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Rex was a fun guy to have around. I enjoy, 584 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, from a content standpoint, and you know this firsthand, 585 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: probably better than I do. It was terrific. But what 586 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: you didn't have with Rex from a football standpoint was 587 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: that that guy who demanded accountability and and and and 588 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: was big on detail. Sean McDermott, those are two of 589 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: his biggest tricks. Uh. Your thoughts on uh, the Bills 590 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: renegotiating with Tyrod Teller and getting a new deal. There's 591 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: a lot of Jets fans we're asking me questions that 592 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't really comment on because he was always under 593 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: a contract with Bills that they were gonna Uh. There 594 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: are a few folks who followed this team and said, hey, listen, 595 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: that he'd be interested in and if he'd hit the 596 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: free agent market, and that never happened. Yeah, no, he 597 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: and and you know from from a first of all, 598 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: from his standpoint, the surprise to me was that he 599 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: didn't draw the proverbial line in the sand with the 600 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: Bills and say, look, I'm not agreeing to any pay reduction. 601 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: You'll have to cut me before I do that. And then, 602 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: of course, if that were the case, he would have 603 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to sign with anybody as a free agent. 604 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: Agreed to a reduction of about ten million over two years. Um, 605 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: it's a contract. The Bills can get out of it. 606 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: They'll they'll be in the same position with Tyrod probably 607 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: a year from now, because after the two thousand seventeen season, 608 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: there's an easy out for Buffalo. But I think for 609 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: for the Bills, who had no other alternative, it's a 610 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: really good move. They didn't dislike Tyrod at all as 611 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback, they just disliked the contract that they agreed 612 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: to back in August, this extension. You were in Cleveland, 613 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: but you're time an overlap with Josh McCown. With that 614 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: being said, and you've been covering the NFL for a 615 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: long time and Jess McCown has had a number of stops, 616 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: what do you think about the Jets picking him up. 617 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: Everybody's been raised mean about his veteran presence, how good 618 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: of a guy he is, and you're pairing him up 619 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: with a couple of young quarterbacks and potentially to the Jets. 620 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: Might I might add another quarterback in the draft. Yeah, Eric, 621 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what put me on the list of 622 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: people who will tout Josh McCown as a veteran leader, 623 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: the presence that he brings, the how good he will 624 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: be to that locker room. And I think there's a 625 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: lot of, uh, you know, a great deal of importance 626 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: that can't be um overestimated and and certainly don't underestimate. 627 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a big, big deal to have 628 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: a guy who knows his way around the league, who 629 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: will be good in the room, so to speak with 630 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. And I've known Josh, I've gotten the known 631 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: Josh got gotten to know Josh through the years, and 632 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: I have nothing but the greatest respect for him now 633 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: as far as a player, what he can contribute as 634 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: a player, I think they're gonna be limitations to that. 635 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: Um he's not you know, he's not the definitive franchise 636 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: gonna gonna really make a difference, I don't think over 637 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: the long haul, but don't sell him short on his 638 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: ability to do enough to help a team that, hopefully 639 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: for the Jets sake, has other strengths that can allow 640 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: them to be successful where do you think from your 641 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: position where you're watching a far of this, from a 642 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: far of this offseason, where do you think the Jets 643 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: are and what do you think about as some of 644 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: these moves that a lot of people thought were necessary, 645 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: they part ways was a number of prominent veterans. Um 646 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: getting younger has been the focus. Mike McKagan then wants 647 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: sustainable success. I know a lot of people look back 648 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: in the hindsight, it's why didn't you do this in 649 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: a year one? Well, the Jets won ten games in 650 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: year one? They don't they beat the Bills if they 651 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: had the Bills that they're in the playoffs, and then 652 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: you go into the following season. You can't. You can't 653 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: tear it apart at that point. So what do you 654 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: think now where this team is at added to me 655 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: the most critical area. I mean, you know, there's nothing 656 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: more critical than orderback and at least for the time being, 657 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: I think they can they can hold the tide themselves over. 658 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: If that's the right way to put it. Nobody wants 659 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: to hear that. They want to hear that you've got 660 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: the answer there, But that is the reality. I think 661 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: with Josh McCown, who I think will be will be 662 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: the opening day starter. I think he's he's going to 663 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: be the guy um and that's important. But beyond that, 664 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: where I think this team needs to show or needs 665 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: to be successful is where a lot of these questions 666 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: have loomed around the defensive front and the defensive line. 667 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: That's that to me, is where the core of their 668 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: success has to emanate. And and when I again, when 669 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: I think of Todd Bowls, I think of Todd's um, 670 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, defensive minded approach to things. That's his signature. 671 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: If this team is going to be good, and that's 672 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: going to happened his first year. If they're gonna be good, 673 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: it's going to start there. Yeah, and everybody, A last 674 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: question here before we're bringing up very Wellner from the 675 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: Associated Press here with the courage from the Buffalo News, 676 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: is that everybody who follows the Jazz from a fans perspective, 677 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: it's like, we want an offensive player early. But you 678 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: know this, we look at the draft early, it's highlighted 679 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: by a numbered defensive players, and the Jets are sitting 680 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: there at six. And I know I wouldn't be a 681 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: sexy pick if they stay there. Because Mike mccagnet has 682 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: been forthright about it. He wants to move back and 683 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: acquire many picks because the Jets have multiple needs. But 684 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: with that being said, the best player might be a 685 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: defensive player. I don't think there's any question about that. 686 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: And based on you know, we don't know how how 687 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: how to prove out when when they start playing in 688 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: the league, but based on the analysis of what's available 689 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: in this draft, I don't think there's any question that 690 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: defense is leading the charge and that your value is 691 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: likely to be better in that upper tier area. That 692 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: would apply to the Bills even a ten picking tenth 693 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: over off that's where they stay. That your value is 694 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: in the area of defense. Where does the first quarterback 695 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: on this drafts that will be interesting. I mean it's 696 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: just in light of how this offseason is on forty 697 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: Niners still have to resolve their their situation. I think 698 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: beyond you know, what they've done with Brian Hoyer. Um, 699 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: Cleveland is the wild card. But you know, and they've 700 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: got two picks in the first round, so maybe maybe 701 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: in that twelfth spot to to Cleveland, and you know, 702 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: they there was a report recently that they had had 703 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: Mitchell Trabisky from North Carolina in for a visit local 704 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: guy UH in Cleveland. So maybe twelve would be my 705 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: prediction for them. But so you think we could see 706 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: top ten here without a quarterback, It's it's conceivable just 707 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: just because I I don't see that there's a lot 708 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: of you know, readiness among the at that position, or 709 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: at least the perception of that by teams. Vix, so 710 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: great catching up. We thank you for your time. I 711 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: know you're a busy man. Vix is not only UH 712 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: covering the Buffalo Bills, but he covers everything and across 713 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: the National Football League for the Buffalo News. Um. I've 714 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: been following him for a long time. Used to read 715 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: him when I was a kid. It's a thrill to 716 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: be here at the NFL owners meetings. Barry Weillner from 717 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 1: the Sociated Press steps in our guest chair right now. 718 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: Very great to see you. For a long time. The 719 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: beat writer UH for the New York Jets. How many years? 720 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: Eighteen seasons? Eighteen seasons and five to two thou three 721 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: Venice Wazak of course, is now in that chair and 722 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: he's been covering the Jets for quite a while. UM, 723 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: what are some of your highlights of covering the Jets 724 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: during at I think my favorite time covering the Jets 725 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: was the yearly years that Herm came in because to me, 726 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: Herm was he had a little bit in a vangelist 727 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: in him. Um. He was very persuasive that he was 728 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: going to get this team to be entertaining as he 729 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: was going to win. And you know, three out of 730 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: five years the Jets did very well with with Herm. 731 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: I wasn't there for that entire time. Um, I've moved 732 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: on to covering the league full time. I think that 733 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: was probably my favorite time coming to Jets was one 734 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: him was there and I think people often forget that 735 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: now when they look back at UH. Coach Edwards said, 736 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: he came on board in two thousand one, led the 737 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: team to the playoffs in each of his first two years, 738 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: and like you said, three of the first four and 739 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: he was only there five seasons, and Uh, you know, 740 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: I think had the Jets kept him, I think that 741 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: they would have stayed on a on a pretty good progression. UM. 742 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: I know some of the problems that went on behind 743 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: the scenes that you know, first him out and then 744 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: he wound up obviously in Kansas City and now he 745 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: does a great job on TV. UM I always thought 746 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: that anyone do you hire from the Tony Dungee tree 747 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: is a good higher and um, I thought it was 748 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: one of the best times of Jets having made Yeah, 749 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: I go back to Tampa when I was a pr 750 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: and turned in two thousand on that Tony Dungee staff 751 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: and herm was the secondary coach, Lovey Smith was the 752 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: linebackers coach, Rod Marion Nelly was the defense it's the 753 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: line coach. And then Mike tom One of course, came 754 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: on board a little bit later after her and left 755 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: to go to the Jets, and he worked for a 756 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: coach Donjee. So that was the hell of a tree 757 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: there in Tampa. And coach Dungee in Indianapolis had you know, 758 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: a similar tree. So UM, I think that that was 759 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: always wise wise moves. Some of the other things that 760 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, you bring up as I go back in 761 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: my memory, going back into the nineteen eighties, some of 762 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: the fun things with the Jets. Um, they had some 763 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: really um terrific players to deal with, guys who um, 764 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: they weren't just football players. They had a really nice 765 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: view of life. You know, I remember sitting with guys 766 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: like Aaron Glenn and just chatting about non football stuff. 767 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: And um, I used to cover hockey before I covered football, 768 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: and hockey players you could always do that, and so 769 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: that was kind of a nice comfort zone when you 770 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: get players like that. Kyle Clifton was like that, you know, 771 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm going back now to uh when you were probably 772 00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: in junior high school. Uh and Vineta, the Verdi and 773 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: Chad Pennington. Obviously quarterbacks have to talk, but those are 774 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: just good guys to always deal with. Two And because 775 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: you were covering the team two thousand two, where when 776 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: you rank that as far as quarterback seasons for a 777 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: Jets passer two thousand two, well, that would be very 778 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: close to the top. It's been a very few years 779 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: where guys boy one that effective. Um. The thing about 780 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: Chad was he was always so mature, you know, I 781 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: mean when he came in and um, he wasn't a 782 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: staughter right away, but he was. He knew he'd be 783 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: able to hand out as a coach's son, um, and 784 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: and a great locker room guy as well, And that's 785 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: what you need out of your quarterback. Is another one 786 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: of my favorite players was Chad and Uh. I was 787 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: always surprised that he didn't stick in the NFL doing more, 788 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, going into coaching full time or stuff like that. 789 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: But I think we'll hear more from Chad. I talked 790 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: to a couple of the guys, to John McClain and 791 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: then Vick Grucci about Joe Clucko potentially being in the 792 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So I'm gonna ask you about Clucko, 793 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 1: but I'm also gonna uh be remiss if I didn't 794 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: match in Kevin May as well. There are two different 795 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: situations now, because Klucko was going trying to go to 796 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: the Hall through the Seniors Committee, where um mai is 797 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,959 Speaker 1: in the modern day voting. Can you talk about each 798 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: of those UH players and potentially how you view them 799 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: maybe making the Hall of Fame. Let's tell with because 800 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: this year I thought he came really close, and there 801 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: were three of us in the room, Bob Glaubert from Newsday, 802 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: Gary Myers, and myself who really tried to carry the ball, 803 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: if you will, for Kevin. I think Kevin was not 804 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: only a great player as a great Leader's contributions to 805 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: the NFL p A were very important. UM. I don't 806 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: think that the Players Association be where it is now. Uh, 807 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: successful wise without Kevin, And I mean he was the 808 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: best center in the game for a big portion of 809 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 1: his career. He played some guard. UM, Like I said, 810 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: terrific locker room guy. UM, you know you can understand 811 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: why there were three coaches who really wanted to have 812 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: him on their team. Are three franchises, UM. I think 813 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: Kevin may have been of the four. There were four 814 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: UM offensive lineman who are finalists this year. I think 815 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: Kevin probably had the most support, just maybe ahead of 816 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: Tony Boselli. I have a lot of faith that he'll 817 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: get in. UM. I would hope it'll be next year. Yeah, 818 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: could have happened as soon as next year, Yeah, I 819 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: think maybe. I mean next year is a tough class 820 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: because Ray Lewis is in it, UM, Randy Moss is 821 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: in it. You know, you've got some guys who could 822 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: be slam dunks. But I think, having been on the 823 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: committee for a while now, we need to address getting 824 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: more offensive linemen in. Is it more difficult because those 825 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: guys don't have the stats. We can talk about his 826 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: durability and how many how many games started in what 827 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,479 Speaker 1: kind of numbers, Like a guy like Curtis Martin, who 828 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: is the NFL's fourth all time leading rusher, put up 829 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: behind ain't a guy like Kevin Maway. But then you 830 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: put it side by side next to a receiver, running back, 831 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: or passer, and their lists are just longer. Yeah, what 832 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: you need is a really good, strong testimonials from players 833 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: about Mawai, and there were quite a few of those 834 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: in the room. Um, and I it's very hard for 835 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. They're the only position that don't have any 836 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: sort of stats too, you know, gone, Yeah, I I 837 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: really believe Kevin will get in. I think it deserves 838 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: to get in. I think he was just as good 839 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 1: a player as Demante Dawson and Demonty got in. Um, 840 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: it was like Kevin came right after him because Demonta 841 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: at a time where he was the guy, and then 842 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: at some point I think, I don't know how you 843 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: view this, is that it became widely recognized or why 844 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,399 Speaker 1: they accepted throughout the National Football League that Kevin became 845 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: the top center. Sure, he's regularly in our All Pro team, 846 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: and because the All Pro team is for the entire league, 847 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: that says a lot. So I think he will get in. 848 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: Joe Klecko is a difficult one because the seniors is 849 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: such a backlog of seniors UM, who are great players 850 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: who will get consideration UM over the next few years, 851 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: and you can only get in either one or two 852 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: depending on what year we alternate between contributors and Seniors UM. 853 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: When I joined the committee, I was actually surprised that 854 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: wasn't in the Hall of Fame. UM. This is the 855 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: guy made All Pro three different positions, and a lot 856 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: of people might say, well, defensive line, it's one position. No, 857 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: it's not. He had three different specific jobs in different 858 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: alignments for different coaches, and he was a force. Had 859 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: he not gotten hurt and and and he played hurt 860 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: a lot, had he not gotten hurt, I mean to me, 861 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: there's no way he wouldn't already be in. But now 862 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: that he's in the senior category, could be quite a 863 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: while before Joe comes up. Seventy seven and a half 864 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 1: career sex that's second on the Jets all time list. 865 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: You mentioned it that he was a pro bowler at 866 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: three different positions and positions defensive and defense, attackle nos 867 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: tackle UM. Four time pro bowler, I believe, three time 868 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: All Pro and a member of one of the fiercest 869 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: units out there across the national football you know, in 870 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: early and the leader. He was the leader of that group, 871 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: and he was the leader of the entire defense. And uh, 872 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: it would be nice to see Joe get in. UM. 873 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: I certainly would support him, but I think it's gonna 874 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 1: be some time yet. What do you make of about 875 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: some of the hot topics here this week? Well, today 876 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 1: we'll get the Raiders decision. Um. I think it's been 877 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 1: pretty much once Bank of America came in. I think 878 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,760 Speaker 1: it was pretty much a slam dunk that the Raiders 879 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: will wind up in Las Vegas. I don't have any 880 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: problem with it. Um, this is interesting other topics producing 881 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: over time for fifteen minutes attendants in the regular season, 882 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: which came out of nowhere. Pretty much. To me, that's 883 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting topic that we'll get debated. Pace 884 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 1: of play everybody's talking about. I think pace of play 885 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: is not that hard to uh, to ramp up, and 886 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: I think that that it will be done in a 887 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: pretty um invisible sort of way. UM. I like the 888 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: idea of the referee no longer need to go under 889 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: a hood to examine replay. It's interesting that now like 890 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: the NHL does the central office will make the final 891 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: decision with input from the referee. Uh, that's a little 892 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: bit of a sideline that didn't expect. I think it'll work, 893 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: but um, I think we need to see how it 894 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: works first before it becomes permanent. What do you expect? 895 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: What you might hear from Bolts tomorrow when he addresses 896 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: the media here in Phoenix. Well, he's gonna be nice 897 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: about McCown. Um. I think one question he may be sked, 898 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: and I maybe one to ask it is why is 899 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: McCown any different than Ryan fitzpatrick and you know it 900 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: to explain to us why and to the fans why 901 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: this is a good move for the Jets when it's 902 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: could see that it's just a placing fits with another veteran. Um. 903 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,280 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be asked about the draft obviously. 904 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: I mean the Jets are number six position. That's a 905 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: good spot in this draft. This is a terrific draft. 906 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: They got Leonard Williams in a similar spot of us 907 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: or not. You get a player like that out of 908 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: this draft, you gotta be very happy, and I think 909 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 1: they could. Um, what do you make of the quarterback class? 910 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: So I don't make much of the quarterback class. UM. 911 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: I know Vick was talking about maybe the top ten quarterbacks. UM. 912 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: I think that that's probably true. Uh, there are teams 913 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: that are desperate for quarterbacks. I don't think any of 914 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: these guys, um, are worth being desperate about. I think 915 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,919 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys the second round or even 916 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: third round guys, but some of them may go in 917 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: the first round. Another thing that I'd say about McCowen 918 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: is that he does have some familiarity with the new 919 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: quarterback coaching and Jeremy Bates is the second stint here 920 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: with the Jets, Jeremy Bates, but those guys work together 921 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: and Cleveland, uh in Chicago, Excuse me, I got the Obviously, 922 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 1: McCown's played for ten teams now, so I slipped up 923 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: on that a little bit. But everybody raves about his 924 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: veteran presence and how possibly uh he can benefit at 925 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: some of the young quarterbacks in that room. Well, that 926 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: would be important to working with the young quarterbacks, and 927 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: and he's done that in his career, um, in a 928 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: lot of different places. And he's a good locker room guy, 929 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: there's no question. UM. So in that way, I understand 930 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: the addition, would be very interesting to see how that 931 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: develops through the training camp and through preseason, because I 932 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: expect McConnell start. But I think at some point that 933 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: Jets have to let these two young guys get a 934 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: big shot at it. And what do you think of 935 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: the postseason to date? Here obviously a release a number 936 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 1: of prominent veterans, Brandon Marshalls and now and New York Giants. 937 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: Torrell Rivas is out there is a free agent to 938 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: the Jets. Let him go. Uh. You can't even look 939 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: at a guy like Nick folk um uh, Breno Jock Amini. Uh. 940 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: So in a number of veterans out the door, and 941 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: they've taken on some I would say low risk, high 942 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: reward free agents. When you think about like a guy 943 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: like Morris Clayborne, uh former high pick of the Cowboys 944 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: and then Calvin Beacham, former tackle with the Jacksonville Jaguars, 945 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: I think it's rebuilding time and and that's what you do. 946 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,479 Speaker 1: When you're rebuilding, you free up a lot of money 947 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: in in um that they've been able to do with 948 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,919 Speaker 1: Rivers and some of the others. Random Marshall leaving. Chet's 949 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 1: fans need to be patient I know they don't like 950 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: to hear that. They've heard it a lot um, but 951 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: they need to be patient this year and see how 952 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: some of these, especially the young guys develop um. And 953 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: then they're in a tough Division two. So just you know, 954 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: be patient and you gotta see what happens in the draft, 955 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: because I know everybody's saying, oh, well, look at what 956 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: they are right now. Well mcagnor is sitting there and 957 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: telling people that he wants to build through the draft, 958 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: So let's see what comes in via the draft. They 959 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: got four picks in the first three rounds of Barry's 960 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: telling you that this is a very good draft. So 961 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna find starters. You're gonna find multiple starters immediately 962 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: in this draft class. Yeah, you'll find start in the 963 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: third round and May started photos and the started in 964 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: the fourth round. It's that good a draft. It's one 965 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: of the better drafts and all past half dozen years. 966 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: All right, that's Barry Wilner from the Associated Press. It 967 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: was great catching up with him. Uh, thank you for 968 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: tuning in not only in New Orks dot Com but 969 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: on Facebook. Tomorrow morning, a FC coaching Breakfast from here 970 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: in Phoenix, Arizona, gonna be streamed live both on your 971 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: ros dot com and on Facebook, airing at ten fifteen Eastern. 972 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: Todd Bowls will be addressing the media here seven fifteen locally, 973 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 1: and then we'll come back with a live stream again 974 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: uh tomorrow afternoon one pm Eastern Bridge Stone. Remember the 975 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: official tire of the New York Jets. That's it for 976 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: us today. Thanks to Jason chin For of CBS Sports, 977 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: John McClean of the Houston Chronicle, Vic Carrucci of the 978 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo News, and last but not least, very well there 979 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: the Associated Press. Thank you