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Speaker 1: Football is about the Jimmy's and Joe's, and x's and o's.

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Speaker 2: Nice writing numbers, three jets, Spielberg, I'm one, all right, ass,

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Speaker 1: It's time to get out the chotboard and diagram. Some

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Speaker 1: plays make sure you get enough the like twelve yard,

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Speaker 2: This is Inside Football with former Colts and NFL coach

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Speaker 2: Rick Venturie. A final week of Colts training camp is here,

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Speaker 2: and one more preseason game left for the Colts that

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Speaker 2: comes up on Saturday before the roster gets hacked from

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Speaker 2: ninety players down to fifty three. Regular season football is

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Speaker 2: on the horizon, but still a lot to hash out

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Speaker 2: between now and then. I'm Matt Taylor inside the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Union Construction Industry radio studio. Rick Venturius here bringing his

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Speaker 2: twenty seven years of NFL coaching background with him and Rick.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about today, my friend.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm doing good? Yes we do, yes

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Speaker 1: we do, or you know at the end of training camp.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of news today, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be juicy here, So a lot of thoughts

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Speaker 2: to get into with Rick Van Turrey. We're gonna break

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Speaker 2: down the quarterback decision. We're gonna recap what we saw

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Speaker 2: last Saturday against the Packers. We're gonna talk about roster

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Speaker 2: We're gonna break down camp stand out so far, and

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Speaker 2: also get into what Saturday's preseason finale against the Bengals

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Speaker 2: will look like and what Rick Van Turrey will be

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Speaker 2: keeping an eye on in the Queens City this weekend.

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Speaker 2: So let's start with QB's Rick Shane Steichen and the Colts.

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Speaker 2: They have made their decision. The team is named Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: their guy heading into the regular season. And Rick, this

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Speaker 2: is all boiled down to consistency. They've been very transparent

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Speaker 2: with that this entire time, process wise, and this decision

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Speaker 2: encapsulates everything within consistency, accuracy, ball placement, communication in the huddle,

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Speaker 2: checks audibles, being able to guide the early offense early

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Speaker 2: on in the season, trying to get off to a

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Speaker 2: good start. So what do you make of what the

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Speaker 2: QB one, Daniel Jones being given that responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, this one doesn't surprise me at all

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Speaker 1: a little surprise to the fans. You know, maybe the pundits.

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Speaker 1: I think they look at it a certain way, But

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Speaker 1: I look at it from a coaching standpoint, as does Shane.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I asked myself, and you've seen it

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Speaker 1: One can you trust Anthony? And two can Danny play

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Speaker 1: like he did in twenty two? Well, you know, in

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Speaker 1: terms of Anthony, I'm not quite there. I'm getting there,

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Speaker 1: for the opener against Miami and everything I've seen about Danny,

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. And I watched it every single day,

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Speaker 1: every single day he's been in control of the team.

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Speaker 1: He has been decisive in quarterback play, you know, at

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Speaker 1: so you know, you know, so you know, I was,

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Speaker 1: And you know, if Danny were to get nicked or something,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I thought this would be the way

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, it's not necessarily the crowd pleasing decision.

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Speaker 2: That, you know, just to have a discussion here, I

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Speaker 2: mean Shane Steiken. When he met with the media this week,

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Speaker 2: he said several times he talked openly about completion percentage

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Speaker 2: move the ball overall with a better pass completion. And

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Speaker 2: he knows more about football than I do. But I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm also a very big believer, as you know, in

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Speaker 2: completion percentage and how that factors into the overall health

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Speaker 2: of your offense. In the passing game, you've got to

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Speaker 2: is still developing in that despite showing a lot of maturity,

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Speaker 2: and he did improve, he did take it very seriously

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Speaker 2: and then showed a lot of dedication there. But between

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Speaker 2: the two, Jones gives the Colts the better opportunity in

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Speaker 2: the passing game right now. But you know, I think

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Speaker 2: Shane said it Anthony Richardson just to play away. I

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Speaker 2: thought in the in the locker room, Anthony Richardson handled

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Speaker 2: the news with a lot of grace and maturity and

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Speaker 2: a lot of professionalism. But the fact is, Rick, you

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Speaker 2: agree Jones is further along with accuracy, ball placement and

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage details that you have to have

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I see I couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 1: On past percent it's got you know, high past percentage

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Speaker 1: teams on offense win a lot of games and low

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Speaker 1: pass percentage teams. This and this, this applies to us.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into this later. On defense, usually puts you

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Speaker 1: totally out of the playoffs. And past percentage is huge

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Speaker 1: because what it does is it allows you with a

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Speaker 1: You're not second and nine and then third and eight.

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Speaker 1: You're second in five, third and three, you know, and

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Speaker 1: and those are ideal things for your offense. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I think again, you know, one thing he said from

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Speaker 1: all said and done, Jones in sixty nine starts is

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Speaker 1: he's going to be. And you saw that. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: you exaggerated a little bit in training camp because of

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Speaker 1: don't count anything else. Right when he was at sixty

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Speaker 1: his credit, but it's still it's there is a difference.

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Speaker 2: So big picture, this is a loaded question. I'll just

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Speaker 2: tee it up for you because many are wondering what

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Speaker 2: does this mean now for Richardson? How do you think

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Speaker 2: the Colts handle him as the backup after what he

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Speaker 2: went through last season? What does this mean for Anthony's

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Speaker 2: future with the Colts?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think, you know, I think he can relax

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Speaker 1: and continue to grow, not be tied about it. Again,

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Speaker 1: You're exactly right. He's shown great maturity in terms of

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Speaker 1: just going to make myself better every day. And if

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Speaker 1: he maintains that, you just you know, this is just

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Speaker 1: a league of attrition. I mean, somebody's gonna get nicked.

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Speaker 1: come back much better equipped. And as you said, and

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Speaker 1: he'll come back without a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be interesting to see how it starts.

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Speaker 2: The Colts have back to back home games to begin

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Speaker 2: the season at Lucas Oil Stadium, trying to get off

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Speaker 2: to a good start. They play the Dolphins on September seventh,

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Speaker 2: Week two here come the Denver Broncos. The Colts obviously

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Speaker 2: infamously have not won a Week one game since twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: So after back to back seasons Anthony Richardson starting Week

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Speaker 2: one in twenty twenty five. That belongs to Daniel Jones elsewhere, Rick,

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Speaker 2: here to begin with. Earlier this week the Colts did.

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Speaker 2: But lou Ana Roumo knows him very well. Lou was

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Speaker 2: this move was made with injuries in mind. Kenny Moore,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm you know, really excited about this, and

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Speaker 2: So what does a healthy Howard do though to the

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Speaker 1: He if he's ready, there's no doubt. I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: Speaking of injuries, I mean they're really piling up for

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Speaker 2: You've got four starters on offense dealing with injuries right now.

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Speaker 2: ask you about those two rookies. How disappointing is it

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's just you know. I mean again, I think

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Speaker 2: That's Rick Vinterry right there. This is inside Football. We're

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Speaker 2: breaking it all down. We started with the quarterback news

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Speaker 2: Let's go back a couple of days. Let's sort of

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Speaker 2: Packers in preseason game number two, Rick, anything about the

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Speaker 2: let's start first on offense, anything on offense on that

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Speaker 1: Well, I think number one, I think the most important

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Speaker 1: some pretty good strength in there in the run. I'm

428
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Speaker 1: looking for that. I think Addie Barre is you know,

429
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: I think he's probably the best rusher of the backup

430
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: inside guys. So you know, I saw some things there

431
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Speaker 1: that I liked. Uh, probably the biggest highlight for me,

432
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: and I'm happy about it. I was happy when we

433
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Speaker 1: did it. Is Lemon. I thought that Lamon's had you know,

434
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: it was obvious, it was obvious to everyone. Pass breakups, sacks, tackles.

435
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: You know, he really played his tail off and it's

436
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, going back to Wally, it's so important for

437
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: someone and Lamon's did that some for us last year.

438
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: A lot in practice is we need a backup for

439
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: Kenny at the nickel. That's a unique spot. That is

440
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: you can't just throw any owner out there. You can't

441
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: throw a linebacker out there. That is a real hybrid

442
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: position that Kenny plays to the max. But if he

443
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: gets nick just like now, you got to have somebody

444
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: that can back him up. And I thought that he

445
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: took a giant step in solidifying, you know, survival there

446
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: if in fact Kenny isn't there. And remember this is

447
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: and this is something we talked about in the preseason

448
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: when we did our little you know, we did our

449
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: little rundown on lou An arumo Is. Nobody utilizes the

450
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: nickel more than Lou. Lou uses that nickel for about

451
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: a million things, blitzing, you know, run defense, on the edge,

452
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: different types of coverage. So you know, that nickel is

453
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: a real vital spot. It always is. But with Anna Rumbo,

454
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: he's made a science out of using that guy.

455
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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. All Right, let's talk about areas

456
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: of uncertainty here that still exists on this team going

457
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: into game number three in the preseason and the regular season.

458
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: Let's go up front. We talked about Blake Friedland suffered

459
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: a fracture to his leg. Looks very serious. In fact,

460
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: he's on IR like we talked about. So Jalen Travis

461
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: gets the start at left tackle. Yeah, Bernard Ryman didn't

462
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: play over the weekend with an ankle injury that doesn't

463
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: look to be serious. So that's that's good news there.

464
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: But where are you on the UH concern meter about

465
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: the Colts swing tackle depth and the capability there?

466
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Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is what I would say. Is

467
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Speaker 1: the thing that you know, I think we really have

468
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Speaker 1: to make sure we shore up. I think one bringing

469
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Speaker 1: up Jalen Travis, he got beat one time on the

470
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Speaker 1: edge a guy had I thought the guy was off

471
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Speaker 1: sides on the one that Anthony actually scrambled and hit

472
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Speaker 1: the long one to Google. They got called back. But overall,

473
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Speaker 1: I'm warming up to that guy every day. Every day

474
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Speaker 1: I watch him. I see a guy that is growing.

475
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Speaker 1: I think he will solidify. I think he was going

476
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Speaker 1: to do it anyway. He's going to solidify the swing

477
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Speaker 1: tackle spot. I think the Tony has been wise and

478
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: moving him both left and right, you know, as you

479
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: know that is so important, uh, you know, because Smithy

480
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: is always a little bit it's a little bit fluid there. Uh,

481
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Speaker 1: and he's really growing on me. He's huge, huge, just

482
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Speaker 1: just but he but he's huge, but he's smart and

483
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Speaker 1: he's actually got some athleticism. You know, he was a

484
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: basketball player, and I see it. He's fluid, you know,

485
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Speaker 1: he is not He's not ponderous. So I think that's

486
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Speaker 1: a big plus. I think the swing tackle is going

487
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Speaker 1: to be all right with Travis. I have one other issue,

488
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Speaker 1: and I I you know, I don't know if you

489
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: heard me on the pregame, but I was a little

490
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Speaker 1: prophetic on this. I'm a little worried. Not that they

491
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: don't have the talent, but you know, with Bordolini and

492
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: Uh and you know and Gonzalvez as really young kids

493
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: in there playing together. The one thing we got to

494
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: make sure we got three weeks here, we got to

495
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: make sure that they can handle stunts, because you know,

496
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: the one sack came when Gonzalez just missed it and

497
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: and Bordolini got lost looking the other way and didn't

498
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: come back to help. And even though that's one isolated play,

499
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: but let me tell you, if you show any vulnerability

500
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: in this league, yeah you're gonna see it over and

501
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: over and I just I see, yeah, I see those

502
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: two young kids in there. You know, I'm gonna run

503
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: those toms and those twists and those is cos in there,

504
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: particularly if I can get ahead in account. So you know,

505
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: like I said, it isn't there isn't a lack of

506
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: talent there, but it's just you know, you know, picking

507
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: up stunts in the offensive line has so much to

508
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: do with just experience and playing together and feeling one another.

509
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: You don't you can draw it up on the blackboard,

510
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: but you almost sometimes you don't see that twist game.

511
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: You gotta just feel that guy being there. So you know,

512
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: I think that, and then you know, the only other

513
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: thing I said in general was just finishing in the

514
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Speaker 1: red zone thirteen. Like I said, thirteen to three should

515
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: have been twenty one to three. Hey Rick.

516
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: One other position group that I want to talk to

517
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Speaker 2: you about in the preseason here tight end, And I

518
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: thought that the tight end room has had a very

519
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: good camp. You're not seeing a whole lot of drop

520
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: passes or missed assignments there. And it's not just all

521
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: about Tyler Warren, who by the way, has two catches

522
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: over twenty yards in the preseason by the way, but

523
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Speaker 2: I'm interested. I'm gonna put you on the hot seat here.

524
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: How would you select your tight end room right now

525
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: for the Colts if he had to do it today?

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in it. You're exactly right. I couldn't agree

527
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: with you more. On their performance. I think it's probably

528
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Speaker 1: the best camp performance we've ever seen from tight ends Warren.

529
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Speaker 1: We don't have to say the kid is elite. He

530
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: and JT are game changing, elite National Football League players

531
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Speaker 1: and Warren hasn't even played a game. He caught the

532
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: big wheel and he had another one the one class

533
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: that Danny missed. He ran that big wheel off the

534
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: switch route early there and just just overthrew him. But

535
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: he can he can do it all. Two. My number

536
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: two would definitely be Moali and Uh. The reason I

537
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: say that is I think the pair of those guys

538
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: are really give a defense problems physically and mentally because

539
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: both of them can line up on the edge in

540
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: a two tight end ace, you know, and you can

541
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Speaker 1: high low runs, you can check with me runs with

542
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: both those guys because they can really block the edge.

543
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: And then you know, by leaving Moaley in, you can

544
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Speaker 1: do anything you know with Warren. He's really almost like

545
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: a hybrid third wide. You know, he can come into backfield,

546
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 1: he can split out, go all the way outside, and

547
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: so you you kind of have to make a decision,

548
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: but you almost have to play your base defense against that,

549
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: which gives Warren massups in the passing game. You know,

550
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: if it was just like if it was Lovele, I

551
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: would consider playing Nickel against him, you know what I'm saying,

552
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: But that's hard to do against the guy if you

553
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: get in a two tight end ace and run it.

554
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Speaker 1: So to answer the question, that would be my one

555
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: two I would ogle Tree would definitely be in the

556
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: picture because I think he's a pretty decent multi purpose guy.

557
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: He can block pretty well. Last year, if you remember

558
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, they used him some

559
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: at fullback to run some whams, and I think that's

560
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: a vital thing that you need in modern day football

561
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: against these bare defenses. So he would be in there,

562
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: and then the fourth spot would probably be Mallory and

563
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: the odd man out maybe a guy that I love

564
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: is as jiel Annie was. I just but what happens

565
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: is after the first two then everything else I think

566
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: becomes a role, and you know what you know what

567
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: Mallory can do. Mallory is a really good hybrid. I

568
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: mean he he's a really good receiver. I mean he's

569
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: a top receiver. You put him in warn in the

570
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: game together, now you have two top receivers in the slots,

571
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Speaker 1: you know. So I mean I would probably go that way,

572
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: and I won't take anything away from July. I mean,

573
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: he's a story in himself, yep. And he's really balling it.

574
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he played his tail off the

575
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: other night, and you know they're not gonna make a mistake.

576
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: But I think the key is the first two really,

577
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: because I see that I see that as a problem

578
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about a number eighty four for the

580
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: Colts is gonna be fun. He's got, as we chronicled,

581
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: two catches over twenty yards already in the preseason, and

582
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: the different ways he can impact the offense is seemingly endless. Here.

583
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 2: All right, we do this every year heading into the

584
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: preseason finale, So let's do it again here in twenty

585
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: twenty five. I always enjoy this, Rick, give us your

586
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: all camp team for the Colts in twenty twenty five.

587
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: Now that the Grand Park portion is over. Give us

588
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: the players in camp that stood out to you the

589
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: most in a positive manner. Rick Vann Thurre's All Camp

590
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: team this year.

591
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna give it to you on three levels

592
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: because I struggle with this this year, and I struggle

593
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: from a positive standpoint. Oh, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.

594
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: Top tier guys that are just top tier, that can

595
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: change games at their position. JT. Nelson, Buckner, Grover, buying them,

596
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Ward and Pierce. Okay, absolute top tier. You want those

597
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: guys in the top ten, All right, this is probably

598
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. Three game three guys who in

599
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: camp have looked great and could exponentially make this team better.

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00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: Love it. That is Warren, no question about it. Okay, Mitchell,

601
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: no question about it. Because with Warren you get an

602
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: inside creased guy. Mitchell. If he comes and plays like

603
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: he can, if it's the good Mitchell, you've got an

604
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: explosive guy. Outside of Pierce, and then la too, who

605
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen him in camp. He's got to

606
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: do it in games. He's got to finish his rushes.

607
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: But I would say if those three guys, if those

608
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: three guys can play to the level they have at

609
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: camp and you know, and and don't tease us, make

610
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: it happen. This team could really be really be rolling.

611
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: You know. There there's several there's several other guys I

612
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: like for roles, but I think those three guys are

613
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: the guys along with that first tier of guys that

614
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: I talked about that could absolutely, you know, get us

615
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: to win the South.

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00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean, what do they get for making the Rick

617
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: Venturi's All Star Team? Do they get like a plaque

618
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: or a trophy or a gift card? Hardware there?

619
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? They Yeah, they could either May could meet me

620
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: at Wolfies at the boat House in Cicero. I was

621
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: at Puccini's last night for the Diabolo. Yeah. So, I mean,

622
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: I have several places in Hamilton County that I would

623
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: be happy if they play that way. I'd be happy

624
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: to take them out.

625
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: They are not going to turn you down, my friend.

626
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 2: They're gonna learn some ball too during that during that

627
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: dinner and get together all right. Lastly, here with the

628
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 2: Colts having a trim this roster down, now that's coming

629
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: up before you know it next Tuesday, four o'clock ninety

630
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 2: to fifty three. So Saturday is gonna be the last

631
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: chance here for some guys to put out some good

632
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 2: game tape and try to continue their NFL dreams, whether

633
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: that's with the Colts or thirty one other teams. So

634
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: put your old ballcap back on. Rick as a coach,

635
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: what's this final preseason game all about?

636
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: That?

637
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: Fans just don't realize those that sort of downplay it

638
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: and discount it. Why should fans be tuned in coming

639
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: up Saturday afternoon?

640
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: No, they really should. And you know, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: different ways you can handle the third game. I'm as

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Speaker 1: old school as I am, and as much as I

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00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: like to see our guys play more in game one

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00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: in game two with the situation that we're in right now,

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00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: as far as well as we are with all these

646
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: injuries in depth, you know, to me, as far as

647
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: our starters go and some of our first guys in

648
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: the most important thing for them at this point is

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00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: to be ready for Miami. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: So I totally at this sense, even though, like I said,

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00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm a dinosaur, I would I comply with that. But

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00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: this is a game you really want to watch. If

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00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: you want to watch intensity, I mean if the definition

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: of intensity will be on the field Cincinnati Saturday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: there is no doubt about it. You've heard me call

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Speaker 1: this many times, and I used to sit down with

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00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: all those young kids and tell them this. We will

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00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: rename Game three this week as the employment Ball. This

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00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: is a bunch of guys that are literally fighting for

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00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: their football life that's really on the line. And by that,

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00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know, first of all, they're

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00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: fighting for those final roster spots on the Colts. They've

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00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: been here all winter. They want desperately to make that.

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Speaker 1: They're fighting like hell for that. If it isn't to Colts,

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00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: that tape's going to be out there. There's other teams

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00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: that will have injuries at the end, and you know,

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00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: we'll be looking for somebody. And then now, what is

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00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: it fifteen or sixteen practice squad situations, and those are

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00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: so important. I tell people, you can make more on

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00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: an NFL practice squad than you can get the Harvard

671
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: graduate and getting your first job out in the field.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about I think you can make what

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00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty thousand if you've played every week. Yep.

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00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: So I mean this is this is all about that.

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Speaker 1: I always say, you know, to to the people that

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00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: really like you and people that are really into the game.

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00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: Is this is probably the least talked about game of

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00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: the year, but in some ways it's probably the most

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00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: viewed game in terms of NFL front office scouting and

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00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: all that. Because you want to you want to have

681
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: a book on every guy in this league. Is if

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00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: you're if you're in practice squad, you're one step away

683
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: from stepping up and playing in this league. So you

684
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: know it's now or never for these guys. Uh, the

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00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: intensity will be great. They'll be fighting, they'll be fighting

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Speaker 1: for their live here Saturday in Cincy.

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Speaker 2: You are a spot on about that, my friend. That

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00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: is an outstanding breakdown, as always, the best breakdown you're

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00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: gonna get anywhere on the Colts here heading into the

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00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: preseason finale on Saturday, Daniel Jones will be the team

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00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: starting quarterback heading into the regular season. We talked all

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00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: about that in great detail at the top Rick Vin

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Speaker 2: Terry right there, and that we'll do it for this

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Speaker 2: week's edition of Inside Football. Rick, one more game to

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00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: go and then we get closer and closer to real

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: football in the month of September, what we've all been

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00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: waiting for. But we got to play one more game

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00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. When was the last time you were in Cincinnati?

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00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: Eating the delicatessen if you will that the Queen City

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00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: has to offer. They've got l Rose's Pizza, h Frish's

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00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: Big Boy. What's your go to?

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00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: Last year? I missed it last year because Miss Sherry

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00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: was in the hospital. If you remember that I missed

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00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Cincinnati last year, I missed that week. And I don't

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00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: think we finished with Cincinnati the year before, So it's

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00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: about three years. But I a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of times in Cincinnati. A matter of fact. Uh,

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00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: after I was let go in ninety three, I was

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00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: offered a job at Cincinnati and was about a minute

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00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: away from taking it when Bill Belichick called me. Yeah, yeah,

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00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: I really was. I was Shula was the coach, and

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00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I was about a minute from taking it, you know,

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00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: and then Belichick called and offered me a job at Cleveland.

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00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, no, no, it's a good town, great town,

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00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: and Indianapolis. Cincinnati should finish it up. It's really you know,

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00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting and and but I loved I

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00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: loved the one o'clock preseason games. I mean, it just

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00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: seems so normal, yep, But this is the first time

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00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: I remember it's not playing on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: All right, my friend. Well, we're gonna miss you on

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Speaker 2: the road, as we always do. But like I said,

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Speaker 2: can't wait to get back on the horn with you

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Speaker 2: next week. Can talk more about this team and how

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Speaker 2: roster cuts shakeout, and we'll continue to do it as

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00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: the Colts progress heading into September. So have a great

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00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: rest of the week, enjoy the game on Saturday RV

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Matt. And we got four out of six of

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00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: those first first indeed games, we got four mid home

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Speaker 1: so we'll be busy.

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Speaker 2: Together indeed inside the radio booth at Lucas Oil Stadium

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Speaker 2: in the month of September and early October. Rick Van

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Speaker 2: Terry right there, and again, reminder about this game this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Saturday's game starts at one. Of course, you can watch

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Speaker 2: it locally in Indy on Fox fifty nine. Radio Wise

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Speaker 2: coverage begins at ten am Colts pre game Huddle on

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Speaker 2: ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, and then at noon we bring a countdown

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Speaker 2: to kickoff on the fan, also ninety seven to one

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Speaker 2: Hank FM and Indy and all over the Colts Radio network,

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Speaker 2: and then at one o'clock on Saturday, Colts and Bengals

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Speaker 2: in the preseason finale for both squads. So cannot wait.

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Speaker 2: It goes without saying hope you can watch it and

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00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: listen on Saturday afternoon. But if you're busy and you're

745
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: by the pool or on vacation.

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Speaker 1: We get it.

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Speaker 2: We'll have the full recap of everything you miss right

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Speaker 2: here on Colts dot com and the Colts podcast channel

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Speaker 2: as well. That's gonna do it for Rick Van Turi.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for listening to Inside Football and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you next week. So long, everybody,