1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,479 Speaker 1: Well, welcome into another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm Wills Adams. I'm alongside both Tamra and Dolores. I 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: feel like it's been a while since we've all been 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: in the show. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: I know, right, I know, well, here we are. Last 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: time we missed you. I missed it too. I've been 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: so busy. But now my slow, my slow season's coming up. 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: You know, after Bravo Con almost of all our episodes 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: have aired. Bravo CON's behind me. I get to relax. 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: You need that. 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: I get to relax for a little bit and just 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: do my normal housewife stuff. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: You guys get paid a ton of money for Bravocon. 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: I know that might be a touchy question, but I 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: want to know. 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: We get paid. I wouldn't say it's a ton of money. Yeah, 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: for how many days we're there and all we do? 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Can you they know I don't want to do it? 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't air. 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to be on the TV show anymore? 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: Did they? I know. 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: I know that in the past people have complained and 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: and try to negotiate and things like that, but I 25 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: don't think it works. It's either everyone to go, you 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: don't want to say I mean everyone get paid the 27 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: same or no everyone From what I know, yes, everyone 28 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: gets paid the same. It is a big deal. Like, 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: think about all the talent they have to fly in, 30 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: they have to put in hotels, they pay it. I mean, 31 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: of course they make a ton of money too, but 32 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: it's fun. I think it's for me. I look at 33 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: it as you know, giving back to the fans and 34 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: meeting them and doing all those things that make our 35 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: shows so popular. So but also we get activations like 36 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing one with Lexus, so there's more money to 37 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: be made as well. 38 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: That's cool. It's got to be a little scary though, 39 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: because I imagine if you're that big of a fan of 40 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: the Bravo world and you're willing to go to Vegas 41 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: for it, like I feel like you could come across 42 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: some just some weird peeps. Yep, Well you said it right. 43 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: It's fifteen hundred dollars a ticket for VIP, Yeah, and 44 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: it's sells out in sixty seconds the whole show. Like that, 45 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: We're doing this Bachelor cruise thing next year. 46 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Where careful with those cruises. I've been hearing a lot 47 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: of things about that. 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: I know I saw Johnny Banana's thing was fake, right, 49 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: his big I was. 50 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: On one got canceled, Florish, you were on one that 51 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: got canceled. Like, I don't know. After I saw Johnny Bananas, 52 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not I agreed to do that ever again. 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm just like, who's gonna You're gonna hang 54 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: out with me on a boat for three days? Like, 55 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? Like this seems like the start of 56 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: like a murder mystery to me, you know, right, all right, Well, 57 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited about today's episode. We're gonna have one of 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: the stars of season two of the Traders. We're gonna 59 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: have Max Schmerkowski on the show. Obviously very well now 60 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: internationally renowned ballroom dance champion, choreographer and seventeen time Dancing 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: with the Stars pro who quickly became one of America's 62 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: most beloved cast members on the hit series. The Ukrainian 63 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: American dancer, often referred to as a bad boy in 64 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: the ballroom, one of the show's coveted mirror Ball Trophy 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen. Max has also appeared in a 66 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: number of hit television shows, including The One That We 67 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: like to talk about the traders. Max, Welcome to the show, 68 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: my man, Hello, Helloo. 69 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: There he is the bad boy of the ballroom. 70 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: Whatever that means. 71 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what does it mean? 72 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: I was getting bad boy of the ballroom. 73 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: It's provocative, Temera. 74 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: You know me, I know you, I know you am 75 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: I bad? 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: I don't know. 77 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: Oh, you're actually the kindest person. 78 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: Don't say that on record, please, you're gonna you're gonna 79 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: give my image away. 80 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: And he's kind, he's sweet's he's a father and very intelligent. 81 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: There you go. There you go again with my secrets. 82 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: Don't say that. 83 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know. How are you? 84 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. We haven't slept in 85 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: three days. But otherwise it's awesome. 86 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Why kids? 87 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: Uh? 88 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: The middle one is not well and he's the type 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: that's like that's taking the most from me. The other 90 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: through a Mopeita and my kind when I'm sick, I 91 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: am the worst person to cater to. I'm annoying, you know, 92 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: like typical men. So he's that one. So yeah, well, 93 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: I mean hopefully they all do. But so yeah, I'm 94 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: with you, guys. 95 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: Do you think okay? Any more kids coming soon? 96 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: Every time I talked to you. 97 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: You're another one's on the way. 98 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: No, why would you wish that on us? This is 99 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: just crazy. Look, they're amazing, They're cute, they're they're amazing, 100 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: and you know, and I'm living every day like you know, 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: be present all these funny you know things and phrases 102 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: that we keep hearing the same, like be present and 103 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: all that stuff. And I'm trying to hone in on 104 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: this and be like, look this two shell pass both 105 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: the positive and the negative, right, and so this too 106 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: shell pass applies to the negatives, Well, then you got 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: to hold on to the positive as well. And so 108 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: I'm enjoying this, you know, being underslapped and I'm exhausted. 109 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: I'm still in the gym. I just you know, because 110 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: I have a project and Peter is on it. She 111 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: has a you know, she got in the middle of 112 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: us not sleeping. She got an ear infection, so she 113 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: was in an emergency room and all the night before 114 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: and so it's like life is lifing on full cylinders, 115 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 3: but you have to embrace it. Otherwise, what are we doing, 116 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: you know, and. 117 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: What new projects? What new projects you have going on? 118 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: Can you share it? 119 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm filming a couple of things this year. 120 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: I've already filmed a feature and I'm flying out to 121 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: do another one, and there's potentially another one coming up. 122 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: So like quietly, I try to, you know, not wave 123 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: around thoughts and wishes, but you know me by now, 124 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: I try to, like, here's a brick of the fire 125 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: foundation that I laid, and I want to show it 126 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 3: to you, right so when I'm ready, I think it'll 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: be a surprising revelation that that's what I've been doing. 128 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: This too, is for the projects. So usually clean face, 129 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: you know, these two little little gray patches. That's my 130 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: only thing. The rest, I like the soul. I got 131 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: this since the last time you saw me, So wow, 132 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: we got we got. 133 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: Are you doing like a Western or something? Are you 134 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 2: an undercover book? 135 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: I'm going to forest. It's script No, no, no, no, I'm fully scripted. Uh. 136 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 3: Feature moves and there you know, there's a there's a 137 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: twist to the latest project that's coming up that's extremely 138 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: exciting as far as the new wage way of producing 139 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: feature films and where this is going and being you know, 140 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: I'm finally at the at the forefront of like some 141 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: technological moves that entertainment industry is making. So I'm excited 142 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: to be a part of this stuff. Again, I'm not 143 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: trying to be super mysterious here, it's not. It's not 144 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: my thing to tell. So as soon as I'm ready 145 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: to express it, I'm so excited to share all these. 146 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: Things we want to talk to you about. You know, 147 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: the the connection between Traders and with Dancing with the Stars. 148 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's very well known and documented 149 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: that being on Dancing with the Stars is extremely competitive, 150 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: but then also in Traders it is as well. I'm 151 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: wondering what your thoughts are of what show is more. 152 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: Competitive Dancing with the Stars? 153 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, not even a question, zero questions. 154 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: And and Tembra know, so we were in you know, 155 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: my this my back to my season Emmy winning and 156 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: fantastic show and incredible presentation of basically Mafia, right, but 157 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: on on some kind of crack if we talk about 158 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: this you know, Traders and host it and you know 159 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: filmed and it was all beautiful and gorgeous and all that, 160 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: and one of the elements of the show that I 161 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: was really intrigued about is the physicality. Right, So you know, 162 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: in between all those discussions, those were also fun, right, 163 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: based on some things that happened during the day. We 164 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: had some challenges and all that well, my sort of 165 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: you know, abrupt my and you can see it on 166 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: my face and in my mood and in my you know, 167 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: when I kind of lost not lost interest in the show, 168 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: but I lost interest in what I thought the show was. 169 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: I felt like I would stand out in terms in 170 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: physical challenges and I would bring you know. So my 171 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: strategy was, Okay, you are not the you know, you're faithful, 172 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: so there isn't a chance to you know, I already 173 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: hated that position, being a sitting dock. It doesn't play 174 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: well with my personality at all. But at the same time, 175 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: there's no strategy here. His strategy here is just hide 176 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: and and sort of don't get shot, right, And I 177 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: hate that. I hate that feeling. I want to be 178 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: up in front. So I felt like, you know, that 179 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: would be my chance to be that physical sort of person, 180 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: you know in those challenges, right, and then I sucked 181 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: and won and then anyway, but the one challenge that 182 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: took it out of me all that sort of like 183 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: excitement about the show is when we were running and 184 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: it was three teams and we were running. We had 185 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: to solve some riddles, open the box, keep running, and 186 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: it was timed, which every team gets there first, it 187 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: has more time to search for these things and scarecrows whatever. 188 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: We run up to the first challenge, we did the 189 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 3: thing and we just kept running and they're like, hold 190 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: on a second. The production was like, wait, you guys 191 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 3: have to have more dialogue. I'm done. This is no 192 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: longer challenge. It's not tim it's not about who gets 193 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: there first. And at that point I was like, oh, okay, cool. 194 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: So if you're going back to the question about what's 195 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: more competitive, there's no doubt about how Dense with the 196 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: Stars sucks you in and it doesn't let go, and 197 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: everything is so hard and so challenging and so competitive, 198 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: and then you get into like, you know, the weeks later, 199 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: whoever's left standing. This is like, you know, everything that's 200 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: happening right now on the show is so hyper hyper hyper, 201 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: Whereas I just don't feel that that's the same project 202 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: with Traders. But when you ask the question, you know, 203 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: I mean the casting director alone, I think it's a 204 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 3: huge connection between both shows. It's you know, Ms Dinacat, 205 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: she's doing a fantastic job casting award winning productions, and 206 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: I think she's She's the main you know through line 207 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: between the two. 208 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: Now you speaking of Dance with the Stars, it's Aaron 209 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: right now. Do you have a prediction of who you 210 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: think is going to win? 211 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: Do I not? You do? 212 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: I know you do? Who is it? 213 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: No? I mean I I look, it depends on Yes, 214 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 3: here's my prediction. I think I think this is Robert's 215 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: season to lose. And I'm saying it that from a 216 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: standpoint of like looking at this is also our twentieth 217 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: birthday anniversary, you know, so then we start has been 218 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: around for two decades. You're talking about thirty four seasons, 219 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: so many winners, so many plots, so many stories. I'm 220 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: sure there's someone out there who's collecting all that data, 221 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: inserting into some kind of AI engine. It gives you 222 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: the predictability factor. Right, I'm not the guy, but I'm here. 223 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 3: You go if somebody of your listeners is the guy, 224 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: it's very easy. But in my opinion, that data goes 225 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 3: by like it's if it's a male and a female 226 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: celebrities who are high level dancers, the you know it's 227 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: going to go to a male I think if it's 228 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: a male and a female celebrities for a left standing 229 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: and you know, and the male celebrity has the heart, 230 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: but a female celebrity has the skill, I think it's 231 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: going to go to a male you know what I mean, Like, 232 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: it's not gonna be it's not going to be the 233 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: best dancer wins. I think it's gonna be the best 234 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: dancer according to who the audience like the most. And 235 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: that's again do. 236 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: You think that is because a lot of the audience 237 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: is female and they are, you know, kind of smitten 238 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: with Robert. 239 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: Why not, you know? And then there were smitten with Dylan, 240 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: and so Dylan was that heart throb for all those women. 241 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: They're like, oh my god, he took his shirt off 242 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: and then and then Robert took his shirt off and 243 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: he completely you know, not with the ebbs or with 244 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: the shirt. Who are again you have same abs? I 245 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 3: got the same abs, ebbs and ebbs and ebbs. Now 246 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: ebbs are canceled out right, So if you don't have 247 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 3: the ebbs, Dylan, you have to stand up to the 248 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: level of showmanship and the energy that Robert breathed. And 249 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: it's not even the same. So we can talk about. 250 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: Robert is like the favorite amongst men outside of Andy. 251 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: Who is your is your feels and soul and heart 252 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: doesn't dance, you know, I've also again been privy to 253 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: partnerships where my celebrity was not a dancer, but we 254 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: had that we were the heart right, so we went 255 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: all the way, whereas a lot of amazing dances got eliminated. 256 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, this season, unlike any other season, 257 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: everybody can dance. Everybody who's left can dance except Andy. 258 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: But Andy is the heart and soul, and I think 259 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: that Alex and Val are poised to win by coming 260 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: up in the finish line and just being the strongest 261 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: into the end. Robert has to maintain his thing right 262 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: now for the next three weeks on one hundred and 263 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: ten percent. If he slips to one hundred and nine percent, 264 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: we're going to see it and it's going to look 265 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: like he's losing steam. So that's a little bit of 266 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: a negative. Dylan has no chance unless he stands up 267 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: and does something crazy. And then again, don't forget there's 268 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: also Jordan Childs, who has incredible amount of followers who 269 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: no one really talks about as a front runner, but 270 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 3: she is the Olympic gymnast that we've seen have incredible 271 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: amount of success. I would say this, and the last 272 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: thing I'll say, starting tomorrow, what is it tomorrow? Right? 273 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: Tomorrow show? The elimination is going to be shocking, and 274 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: then it's going to be shocking shocking again because there's 275 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: no one left who you're not going to be shocked about. 276 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I went to go watch Phedra who was 277 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,359 Speaker 2: on Traders with both me and Max. 278 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: And you were there. 279 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: Do you go often to watch? 280 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: We tried in the beginning of the season and then 281 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: again Life Gotten Away and you know, we've missed couple 282 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: of shows because we were weren't in town. We definitely 283 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: coming tomorrow because it's our twentieth a diversity they're bringing. 284 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: I think something like four hundred of us got an 285 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: email about coming back this one episode, so it'll be 286 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: a room full of you know, past dancing with the Stars. 287 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: Are you going to dance? 288 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: No? This they have they have a dance by the 289 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: all the pros who were the first who are on 290 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: the first season, that first inaugural six sixth episode pilot 291 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: season I was not a part of that started season two, 292 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: but those guys are coming back. 293 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: I heard to the Grapevine you really like the new 294 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: pro to answer. 295 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a huge fan, are you. It's taken completely 296 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: out of context. 297 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: Then I was wondering what. 298 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: The context here is? Very simple, not taken out of context. 299 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: Let me rephrase that. I speak with a lot of 300 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: thoughts in my head, you know, and and and and 301 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: and I also speak to a room and in a 302 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: room and with the people and all that. I'm not 303 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: speaking to general public. But if I have to say 304 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: to general public, it's it's it has nothing to do 305 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: with the person. You know. My commentary had nothing to 306 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: do with the person. Hence the apology afterwards, because you 307 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: know what, yes, in it, there isn't anything to change, right, 308 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: So my criticism was not out of left field. It 309 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: was just unexpected because because I'm not an analyst on 310 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: the on ESPN talking about basketball players, you know what, 311 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: I'm saying that that's my job. Somebody pays me to 312 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: do that. Now I'm just a professional with an opinion, 313 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: and nowadays everybody has a podcast, and so I think 314 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: that there's got to be a disclaimer. Hey, I'm about 315 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: to say some stuff, and here's the disclaimer, right, and 316 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: I didn't do that, and therefore it kind of landed off. 317 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: What wasn't your opinion more like he wasn't trained in ballroom? 318 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but my opinion was about the fact that you 319 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: have a job. And again, I don't want to get 320 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: in trouble here, here's a disclaimer that the conversation and 321 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: the opinion had nothing to do with the person. And yeah, 322 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: it's probably a little bit of knock on our guesting 323 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: director friend, but it's not really also her call personally 324 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: by herself. But the point is you have a job that, 325 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: over the last twenty years has been the best, most 326 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: exclusive job for a ballroom dancer, you know, period. I 327 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: mean from the money standpoint, to exposure obviously, to opportunities 328 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: after in life, so on and so forth. Dancing with 329 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: the stars for us, the like us, people that wouldn't 330 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: have had this interduction. Had it not been for that project, 331 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: you would never know me. There would be a very 332 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: little chance that we would meet because my ballroom industry 333 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: was nothing to do with mainstream. It was very you know, 334 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 3: it's like curling. We don't know anybody curling until Olympics come, right, 335 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: you would never hear of us, And so I protect 336 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: that so hard because a lot of kids over the 337 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: last twenty years had stayed with some ballroom, had continued 338 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 3: in that in those footsteps, with these thoughts and with 339 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: these sort of like goals in mind. And so I'm 340 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: just like, I'm the guy that just if there are 341 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 3: only five spots for a male ballroom dancer available in 342 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: this country, why not get a male ballroom dancer who 343 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 3: is also fantastic in other stuff. 344 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, after saying what you said about Traders not 345 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: being very competitive, would you ever go back the Traders? Yeah? 346 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: Oh man, I mean, honestly, I think I would have 347 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: loved the redo. I'm also, again, like a lot of life, 348 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: I have to admit I wasn't so in it like 349 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: I know Mark, for example, Mark Ballast he did the 350 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: next season. I haven't seen him on it. I don't 351 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: know you know his outcome, but we spoke about some 352 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: of this, not he didn't reveal anything to me. 353 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. 354 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 3: I saw a person who knew the show, watched the 355 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: show previously, knew every nuance about it, he NBC loved 356 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: watching it as a project, and then he got he 357 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: saw me. I was like, oh my god. And then 358 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: he gets a call and he's like, dream come true. Right, 359 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: I've never seen Traders until I was on it. You know, 360 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: I was on the in Napa, putting on my show. 361 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: We just had a baby. Did a lot of life happened? 362 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: You remember, I was trying to make phone calls when 363 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: it was I'm not allowed allowed it just had a baby. 364 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, you got to call the wife. I'm not 365 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: might not have a wife when I come back. So 366 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: you know, it was all that. So I wasn't that guy. 367 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: I want to if I were to come back and 368 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: do it again, it would be now as someone who 369 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: knows exactly what the show is, you know, and exactly 370 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: how to try and play it. 371 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: I feel the same way now. Dolores and Wells were 372 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: both on season three, which we're recappying right now. 373 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: Delores won, oh, congratulations, should say you should do it 374 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: again because you missed half of it, not I know, 375 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: because I was sick. You were so sick. We missed you. 376 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: We thought you would you know, I don't even know 377 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: how you continued. 378 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: But going I know it was really difficult. But going back, 379 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: you you know, experience what we experienced a little that 380 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: we did. And Wells because well got cooked off pretty 381 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: early too. Going back, you know so much more, you 382 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you would be more confident 383 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: in what you're doing. 384 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I wanted to ask you because 385 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, hindsight's twenty twenty looking back 386 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: on the season, What would you have done differently to 387 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: have gotten yourself further on in the game or would 388 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: you not have changed anything. 389 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: My strategy, Well, I would definitely stay away from Deontay. 390 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: We became best friends immediately. The reason why I left 391 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: is because he lost his mind and I was the 392 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: first only person in front of his face and he's like, 393 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: you know what, I don't know what to say. I 394 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: have nothing, I didn't prepare, but that guy, I'm like, 395 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: wait what? 396 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: And he was so convincing. 397 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, he felt like he felt like because there was 398 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: such a you know, friendly connection, you know, and we 399 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: had moments off camera that I'm not going to talk about, 400 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: but I stand up right in front of him, and 401 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: I feel like right after that, we went to the 402 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 3: round table and he was in sort of distress and 403 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 3: didn't really know how to end it. And if you 404 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: remember Tamor, he was already kind of halfway out and 405 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: he's like, I don't want I don't want to be here. Yeah, 406 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: and then it went straight into it and I was 407 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: the only person in his face like, hey, bro, you're good. 408 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: We'll find chilling, like come down whatever. You know. I 409 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: wish I wasn't now because if I wasn't, he wouldn't 410 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: nobody to pick on. Yeah. 411 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: But ultimately I think he left right after you, right 412 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: like the next. 413 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: Time, just because he realized. I think he came to 414 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: his senses and was like, wait, that was so stupid. 415 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: And also this sounded ridiculous, like I you asked me, well, 416 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: whatever would have done different? I would have I would 417 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 3: have I would have been more vocal in groups. There 418 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: were few groups of people that I did not interact with. 419 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: There were were, you know, so I didn't have I 420 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 3: didn't have any any kind of like I was trying 421 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 3: to sort of play the yield in the wrong way. 422 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: I was trying to be unattached, Like everybody knows that 423 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: I'm kind of part of everybody, right, and so you 424 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: have faithful, you have you know, you have the the traders, right, 425 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: and so everybody would kind of like feel good about Max, 426 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 3: and I felt like that was my you know I 427 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: didn't get to do it, but also I wasn't. I 428 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: was sure one hundred percent nobody's going to point a 429 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: finger at me. 430 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: You were quiet in the very beginning. You were pretty 431 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 2: quiet and to yourself. 432 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: There was a lot of scenes and this might have 433 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: been blown out of proportion or edited in a way 434 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't real. But there's a lot of times when 435 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: you like walk into a room and then be like, 436 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk. 437 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 3: To you guys because I'm walking into some chaotic, you know, 438 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 3: kitchen discussion, and I'm like, I I'm out. I don't 439 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: want to be a part of this. 440 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: Trauma. 441 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 3: Trauma I found. I found the cane. I found the cane. 442 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: I was walking around the cat I was like, I'm 443 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: in the castle, I got a cane, I'm gonna suit. 444 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: I'm chilling. 445 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You should have done more 446 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: of that, you know how. 447 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: A lot of that They didn't show me any of that. 448 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: I know they didn't show any of it. But Vader's 449 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: whole approach was just being the sweet Southern bell and 450 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: praying on people. You should have been dancing with people, 451 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 2: and I don't know that's it. 452 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: That's I would have I would have I would have 453 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: been a little more of that. Yeah, I felt like 454 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 3: I had a good strategy. Like I said, there was 455 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: a I think that my elimination or it was deontay 456 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: led and it was just a hiccup. It's like it's 457 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: a glitch in the matrix. This wasn't meant to be 458 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 3: it because it wasn't legitimate discussion either, not legitimate, but 459 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like it was, it came 460 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: out of left field. Nobody was and once he pointed 461 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: me and one more person did, now I became the majority. 462 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: And Wills and you know the lords. You know that 463 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: by now, right when, especially in the beginning of the season, 464 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 3: when the table's like there's no yet, kind of like 465 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: we don't really know each other that much, we don't 466 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 3: know who's lying who's not. I was already homies with 467 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 3: Phedra and Tamra and a couple other people, so they 468 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 3: weren't the ones to kind of like point at me 469 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: and keep it more I think tam But by by 470 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: the time it came to camera, I was just I 471 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: was a majority. Your majority named right, so because once 472 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 3: it's him and it's her, but. 473 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: He was so convincing in his speech. I've never seen 474 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: anybody on Traders and he didn't. 475 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: Say just spoke about me. Did you notice that? 476 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: I know it was really bizarre now that you mentioned that. Yeah, yeah, 477 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 2: so you would come back as a trader. 478 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 3: You're like, I'll come back as a trader, as a trader, 479 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: I think at this but like, yes, beginning in the beginning, 480 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: when I when I got out, I was like, damn it, 481 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: really wanted to be a trader. At this point, I 482 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 3: would come back as anything, you know, because now I know, Okay, 483 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. Yeah, there's a there's 484 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: a way through and and I get it. But even 485 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: if I watched the show religiously, I wouldn't have known. 486 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: No, you don't know until you go there. I think 487 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: you guys can all agree on that. And there was 488 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: only one season before us, so it was really kind 489 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: of new and going in like I thought I had 490 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: it figured out. I did not have any of it 491 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: figured out. 492 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: No, yeah, but but but but Faedra did, and she 493 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 3: did what a fantastic work. How the Lord the Laurus 494 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: looks like like that, Like she probably had that type 495 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: of experience like coming in old cut and smiley and 496 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: quiet and don't say a lot and then bam. 497 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: No, Max, I'm just a fan. 498 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: I've never been so quiet in my life. 499 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: Hey, Max, we want to be respectful of your time 500 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: and also the shoulder. Right now, last question, of all 501 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: the professional dancers on Dancing with the Stars, who do 502 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: you think would be the best Trader and who would 503 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: be really good at playing the game Traders? 504 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 3: Well, again, I don't know what Mark did on the show. Again, 505 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 3: I think that's the lowest season, right, was Mark ballast 506 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: with you? 507 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: No? 508 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: No, I don't know again. 509 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: On January? 510 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know. I think he might have 511 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 3: done well. I don't know. But again I think, hmm. 512 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: What about your wife or your brother? 513 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 3: I think Val would be I think Val would be 514 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: a good player. He did he did a show get Out, 515 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: right after I did Traders, and it wasn't It wasn't 516 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: similar in nature. You have to make you know alliances 517 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 3: and then be physical. But I think he would have 518 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: been good at making alliances, you know, more so than me. Right, 519 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: I'm a little more you you know, take what you get. 520 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: But also like if you if you don't get it, 521 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: it's because I did it on purpose. I didn't show 522 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: it to you values a little more. You know, his 523 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: language skills are such that that he can befriend you, 524 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: you know through this. Right For me, it takes a 525 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: little longer because my actions, they're going to show you 526 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: later down the line that I am this, this, and 527 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: that with value can immediately sort of you know, take 528 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: him a certain way because of the way he speaks. 529 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 3: I think he'll be great if she wants to be. 530 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I think he'll be He'll be 531 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 3: great on the show. 532 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you pulling over and talking to us 533 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: for a little bit. 534 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: Mad person. 535 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: Everything going forward, I'm please come back on when you 536 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: can announce the projects that you yes, congratulations on all that. 537 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: I would love to thank you so much by it 538 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 3: was nice seeing you. 539 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm sleep by. Thanks bye bye. Well the bad boy 540 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: of Dancing with the Stars, he's so nice. 541 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: He is so nice. 542 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: I knew he was nice, he said. 543 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: Another one like me that gets misunderstood, you know, because 544 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: he speaks his mind and he says how he feels. 545 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: And you know, you know, Dolores Jersey. People they could 546 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: take it, but a lot of people can't. 547 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: Well, I do think it would be fun to see 548 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: his brother or his sister in law on the show 549 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: because his wife. Yeah exactly, Yeah, every all of them, 550 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: they all have to go, and some are traders and 551 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: some are faithful. 552 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: So he was saying, he threw out a name. It 553 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: must be somebody from Dans with the Stars. Yeah, I 554 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: don't know who that guy is, but so he must 555 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: be on the upcoming season. Super excited about that. So 556 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: we're just getting you guys all revved up so we 557 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: can recap. 558 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a good season. 559 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 2: War So we got to get through your guys' season 560 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: three pretty quickly. Before you know it, it's going to 561 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: be January. 562 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to rush through season three. 563 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: The fact that the two of us were on it, 564 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: we could speak quickly on it because we lived it 565 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 2: and we could give you some inside stuff like you 566 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: did for us. 567 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of Yeah, we need to catch everyone up on 568 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: season three before we get into season four, and it 569 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: starts airing on January eighth. Just stick with us. We'll 570 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: listen to the next podcast and we will get into 571 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: episode one and two of season three, which means we 572 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: will be talking about me being banished in just two episodes. 573 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: Thank you. 574 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Guys so much for listening to my Order of the Faithful. 575 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: Follow us on social media, like and subscribe, Tell your 576 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: friends if they are traders or faithful, and and we'll 577 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: see you all again, very very soon. 578 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: M mm hmm