1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. Trey, I was texting you 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: before this and I'm like, I don't even know your 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: last name because you're in my phone as Trey Yoga, 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: mussus god title. Yes, well those are qualifications that you have, 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: but you actually do have a last name Miller. So 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Trey Miller is here. He is a somatic body work 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: is it therapist? Is that how I describe you? Perfect? Yeah, 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: So we've been working together. What has it been a 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: couple of months now, right? Yeah? About two months? And 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: so basically what I've been doing this month on the 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Velvet Edge podcast is having on the different types of 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: healers that I work with. So I've had my astrologer on, 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I've had my or a talk therapist on. My therapist 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: couldn't personally do for ethical reasons, but um, and then 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: I've also had on the lady that I do breathwork 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: sessions with. And so you were kind of the final 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: straw to a lot of the healing work that I 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: have done that has truly helped me and what I'm 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: trying to do this month for the new Beginnings Month. 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: It's just help people to have an idea of where 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: they could go to get help. I think a lot 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: of people are going through, you know, some the last 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: two years have been really tumultuous, and a lot of 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: people are really feeling the stress of that. And what 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: is so incredibly helpful about the work that you do 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: is that it really focuses on our bodies. And I 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people realize how much stress, um, 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: how much emotional distress, anything that you're going through really 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: gets held in your body. And I know for me specifically, 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: that was a huge part of the journey that I've 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: been on, is just the amount of stress and distress 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: that I was holding in so many places in my body. 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: And so you've really helped me navigate that and release 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: a lot of it. So I want to talk about 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: what you do and kind of help people understand the 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: importance of doing body work as a part of their 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: healing process. So can you even kind of describe maybe 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: what somatic therapy is or specifically what your kind of 40 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: therapy would be described as. Yes, yes, So somatic essentially 41 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: just means anything pertaining to the body body um and 42 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: so what I do is well. First, there are semantic 43 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: talk therapists that you know went and got degrees in 44 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: psychology and masters and UM focus on bodily sensations and 45 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: their talk therapy sessions. Have people like me who are 46 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: body workers. I'm a licensed massage therapist. That means my 47 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: scope of practice is manipulating the soft tissues of the 48 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: body UM, and you have body workers that can lean 49 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: more towards talk therapy as long as it's centered around 50 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: the body UM, which is kind of cool to think 51 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: about and experience and sessions. I know you and I 52 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: have had a couple of sessions where about half of 53 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: our time we have together is talking and the other 54 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: half is on the table and experiencing the sensations we 55 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: talked about UM. And so a lot of work can 56 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: be done to help soften strained muscles or wound out, 57 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: wound up connective tissue through thought and through talk alone, 58 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the client gets on the table, the manual labor component 59 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: of the session becomes a lot easier because the mind 60 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: has already begun the healing process towards the body UM. 61 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: So essentially what I do is I help people face 62 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: inner discomfort on a physical level. Okay, Um, it's as 63 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: simple as that and as complicated. Tell me what you mean, 64 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: because I actually understand that, but I want people to 65 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: understand what that means. It completely makes sense to me 66 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: because I've done this work with you. Yes, absolutely so. Um. 67 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: The best way I know I was preparing for this 68 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: meeting and the simplest way I know how to communicate 69 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: my heart is that fear remains a mental concept until 70 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: we address its physical manifestation in our body. So essentially, 71 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us can agree that we 72 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: want to live more in a state of love, right. 73 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: We want to live more in a state of acceptance 74 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: and in a state of love towards ourselves and towards 75 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: other people. But when the rubber hits the road and 76 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: we're actually living day to day life, that idea becomes 77 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: really hard to embody and to live out. And so 78 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: it's not until we take the moments of stillness, whether 79 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: that's through meditation, through yoga, through therapy, through body work, 80 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: when we take those moments of stillness where our minds 81 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: are not preoccupied by activity and we can actually come 82 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: face to face with how our bodies are feeling, which 83 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: takes stillness and we come face to face with how 84 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: our bodies are feeling. We get to the root of 85 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: the hamster will of fear that's going on in our 86 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: minds a lot, and this connects to UM, disconnects to 87 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: the pasina meditation. The philosophy behind this school of meditation 88 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: for the PASTMA meaning insight is that a lot which 89 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: you and I and Kelly have talked about a lot 90 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: of what is fueling our mental um our, our mental 91 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: drive in our monkey mind, our frenetic thought is the 92 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: attempt to distract ourselves from physical pain or discomfort. So 93 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: we're subconsciously doing that, like we're feeling that it's comfort 94 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: in our body, and then we our mind takes over 95 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: and we're like, what do I need to medicate with 96 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Y and ing, yes, that right that right right there. 97 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: What you said is like a fundamental to obtaining any 98 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: enlightenment in this life. Understanding that our culture, our society 99 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: UM and oftentimes our upbringing m in our familial environment 100 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: UM encourages us when we feel discomfort or feel pain, 101 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: that that's the time to run away from it into destruction. 102 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: And all these ancient spiritual practices like yoga philosophy and 103 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: the possible meditation encourage us to actually lean into the 104 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: discomfort and the only we can do this on our 105 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: own right. But it is a lot scarier because we're 106 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: so programmed that when we feel pain, when we feel discomfort, 107 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: that there's something wrong with us, right, that there's wrong 108 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: that we we need to change, or we need to resist, 109 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: or we need to run from. And essentially what I'm 110 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: beginning to describe now is our nervous system response. So 111 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: our nervous system in the face of challenge either goes 112 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: to a fire, flight and fire our circumstance until it changes, 113 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: or we're going to run from it, or our nervous 114 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: system is in the state of resting and digesting, where 115 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: we're accepting life when there's not a threat of danger. Um. 116 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: So we have this system built into our bodies. But 117 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: what now studies are showing us is that our nervous 118 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: system once viewed threat and danger in our environment. So 119 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 1: we viewed um. You know, when we think about it 120 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: being man and land in the east, we would come 121 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: across danger like a line or something, and like years 122 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: ago and the Sahara, and we would our bodies will 123 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: going to fight or flight, would rather fight this beast 124 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: or we would run from it, and then when the 125 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: beasts left and we were safe, our nervous system response 126 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: of resting and digesting will kick in. So this is 127 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: the sympathetic nervous response in the parasympathetic nervous response. Parasympathetic 128 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: is when we are resting and digesting, and sympathetic is 129 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: when we are in a fire flight. So all of this, 130 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: our nervous system plays a key role in body work 131 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: and a living more in love and less in fear 132 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: because we're now realizing that our nervous system responds to 133 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: our thoughts. So when we're unconsciously um thinking really negatively, 134 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: or when when we're when we're trying to run away 135 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: from physical discomfort or pain, our mind is like a 136 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: worldpool gaining momentum and trying to suck us out of 137 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: our bodies. And it's not until we can begin to 138 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: learn how, whether that's through self love or through seeking 139 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: outside help, to sit with our discomfort and to not 140 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: think that it's something that we need to run away 141 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: from and to conquer. When we learned to sit with it, 142 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: then we can begin to actually facilitate growth and change. 143 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: But it's not going to happen until we first accept 144 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: it within what the quote that's coming to mind for me. 145 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: I heard someone say this this weekend is the only 146 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: way to heal it is to feel it. Yes, and 147 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: I have experienced that personally, especially with the stuff that 148 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: we do UM, and I've experienced it and talk therapy 149 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: as well. But I think the thing that I was 150 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: missing UM on my healing journey was for so many years. 151 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, I've told you I've done twelve step work. 152 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: I've done tons of therapy like intensives and and a 153 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: lot of them did incorporate UM kind of the experiential 154 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: therapy thing, like you know, I've taken a bat and 155 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: hit the ship out of some boxes and stuff like that. 156 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: And I understood maybe like what I was storing in 157 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: my body ISH, but mostly I was trying to understand 158 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: why the things in my life were happening. And so 159 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: I was really focused on like the dysfunctional patterns that 160 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: I had learned in childhood maybe or the things I 161 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: had adopted myself UM relationally, especially for myself, and I 162 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: was super disconnected to my body. So like, as a 163 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: woman especially, I think that we UM, we truly have 164 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: an intuitive nature, and so it's it's part of uh 165 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: being a female and or in a feminine essence, And 166 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: even things that were happening to me where my body 167 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: was trying to communicate with me, I was not able 168 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: to fully accept that as a reality because it was 169 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: my body and not my mind. When in when in reality, 170 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: your body knows, your body knows before your mind most 171 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: of the time. Well, and that I'm so glad you 172 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of to bet um segue there, because well, you're saying, 173 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: and what I'm saying is that the battle, the battle 174 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: between love and fear, good and evil, if you believe 175 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: in that black and life dichotomy, the battle is within, yes, right, 176 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: And so oftentimes we can think our parents are to blame, 177 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: society is to blame, and understanding how our society or 178 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: our family upbringing has influenced us is key to healing, right, 179 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: important and necessary and huge. But the journey doesn't stop there, 180 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, either we take 181 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: full responsibility for our healing and our recovery or we're 182 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: just gonna keep blaming the world around us. And what 183 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: somatic therapy emphasizes is that the body is our own 184 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: private temple that the no one else knows the physical 185 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: sensations that you are having today or I am having today, right, 186 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: that is between me and my inner knowing my spirit, 187 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: where I would call God, but can be called a 188 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: lot of different names. And when we begin to reclaim 189 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: sensation and we begin to live less and fear of 190 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: it and more I love of both sadness and of joy, 191 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: of both pain and of pleasure, we begin to UM 192 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: take back our are um birthright that that are healing 193 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: and the direction of our life is in our own 194 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: hands and society and UM any external can get to 195 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: us by our mind can get to us by infiltrating 196 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: what we think. UM. Advertisement is a perfect example of that. 197 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: The advertisers show us what we don't have, and they 198 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: make us want. And that's on the level of the mind. 199 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: But if we can begin to go deeper UM and 200 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: kind of sink sink into ourselves past the level of 201 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: thought and into the dimension of experience and sensation, UM, 202 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: that's closer to the heart, and that's closer to our 203 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: true self, which no external form can get to. So 204 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: we're really reclaiming the fact that we can heal. And 205 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: healing is done through addressing both the external factors that 206 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: created the trauma and through addressing the physical sensations that 207 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: we're product of those original stressors. It's a lot of 208 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: workers say that, say that part again. Yeah yeah, So 209 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: our our healing is both understanding the stressors that created 210 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: our strong and the sensations that were the product of 211 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: those original stressors. Okay, so so okay, and this is 212 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: how I feel, and let me make sure I'm hearing 213 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: you correctly. But so do I have this right? Because 214 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: this is exactly what I think. I think they're all 215 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of therapy are important. Like the mind part. 216 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: I needed to do that for a certain amount of 217 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: time so I could understand the wise, Like I'm also 218 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: a person that loves the wise. I'm like, what's behind that? 219 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just curious about it. So that was 220 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: where I needed to start, and that was super helpful. 221 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: Um and then I felt like over the years on 222 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: my journey, I had the logical understanding of why I 223 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: did everything I did, like picked the relationships I picked, 224 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: or got anxiety about certain situations, responded to certain things. 225 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: But I wasn't able to do it differently necessarily because 226 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't connecting to my body with it. That did 227 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: I get that right. Yes, Okay, we absolutely got that right, 228 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: because that surminded me of something that popped up when 229 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: we first began this discussion is the concept that in 230 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: the West we viewed things like compartmentalized. Right, Like the 231 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: idea of of the work that I do being the 232 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: mind body connection, two more Eastern modes of thought are 233 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: even no brainer. That's not a The mind body connection 234 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: is just who we are, Like, there's not there's not 235 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: a Things aren't as dissonant as what we make them 236 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: in the West, and so we kind of can look 237 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: into ourselves and kind of dissect ourselves and be like, 238 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: I have a brain that's in a body, and my 239 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: body's lugging around my brain and my brainstorm. But in reality, 240 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: everything is one, right, So we what we think becomes 241 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: what we feel, and what we feel informs how we think. Um, 242 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: you know is a perfect example of this. A lot 243 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: of us in the West are practicing yoga now, and 244 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: UM yoga pretty much. The preliminary truth of yoga is 245 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: that how we think is how we feel. How we 246 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: feel is how we breathe. So that's why when a 247 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: lot of us are practicing really difficult postures in yoga, 248 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: and the teacher accused us to keep breathing. Essentially, what 249 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: they're saying is, don't resist the discomfort. The deeper you breathe, 250 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: the more you're going to be able to feel, the 251 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: more you're going to be able to feel, the less 252 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna mentally run away from your map. So the 253 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: breath is the anchor in that way, because it's keeping 254 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: us in bodied when and when we're in a difficult posture, 255 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: our reflex is to want to distract ourselves from it 256 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: or to actually physically get out of the difficult posture. 257 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: But through the breath, which brings the brings the mind 258 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: into back to the body, and restores physical sensation back 259 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: to the mind, we create union. Again, we're not resisting 260 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: the present moment and we're not resisting our bodies. And 261 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: in reality, a lot of what we do in life, um, 262 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: it gives us, encourages us to kind of view, encourages 263 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: us to disassociate to some degree. Oh it's so true. 264 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: So so essentially, what what body work centered therapy with 265 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: somatic therapy is is encouraging us two forget how to 266 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: disassociate and to stay present with our bodies moment by moment. Yeah, 267 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: the present we remain to our bodies, the less manipulated 268 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: we will be by the world around us. I just 269 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: had this thought too when you brought up yoga and 270 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: the discomfort piece that you mentioned earlier. The feeling, the 271 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: feeling in our body is what will help us get 272 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: to the change. And so if we keep on the 273 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: yoga analogy, it's like that poses. It's not comfortable. There's 274 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: discomfort in this hard pose. But where you find change 275 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: in your body and your strength is by holding the 276 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: pose and working through that and so it and breathing 277 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: into it, leaning into it, versus running away from it 278 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: or falling out of the pose. And obviously none of 279 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: us do any of that perfectly, but that has been 280 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: my experience when we work together is a lot of times, Um, 281 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: like you said, we start our session and I'm updating 282 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: you on what's going on, and a lot of times 283 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: I'm not fully even sure how that makes me feel. 284 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: Like I'll tell you all these stories and you're like, 285 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: holy shit, your life is insane right now, And that 286 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: is true, um, actually, but I'm coming out of that thankfully. 287 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, so we we kind of can talk through 288 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: it that way. But your first question to me always 289 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: is where do you feel that in your body? And 290 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: I have to literally close my eyes and sit there, 291 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: and for me a lot of times it's in my stomach, 292 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: but um, I can't. I haven't. Now I'm naturally kind 293 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: of going there because you've asked me so many times. 294 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: But that wasn't my first instinct. It's like, my first 295 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: instinct is to think my way through it or try 296 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: to figure it out, and like that's not helping me 297 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: because that's uncomfortable too, But it's also in this place 298 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: of like I'm in control and let me solve this 299 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: and control that's the key word in that is is 300 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: our egos are minds want to be in control all 301 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: the time. And in order to come back to um, 302 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: to use Mary Oliver's words, the soft animal of our body, 303 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: to come back to that home UM, we have to 304 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: relinquish control M And what is it we're trying to control? Okay, 305 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: one on an external level of circumstances, right, But what 306 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: we're really trying to control by by manipulating our circumstancess 307 00:22:51,640 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: our feelings. So when we can begin to sit with 308 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: our feelings with the help of someone else or with 309 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: our inner guides, we can begin to finally unfurral our 310 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: hands and our grip on life and begin to surrender 311 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: our control and remember that our life is a gift 312 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: and we didn't even make it happen in the first place. 313 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: And with that relinquishment, if that's even a word of control, 314 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: sensation is restored, balance is restored, and balance cannot come 315 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: on a physical, mental, emotional, or spiritual level if we're 316 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: just trying to feel good all the time. Ah, I 317 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: love that. It's it won't happen. It's impossible. This whole world, 318 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: this universe, is reliant upon opposites. You know, UM nine day, 319 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: dark and lights, sun and moon, masculine feminine principles, UM seasons. 320 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: Without death, there can't be life. The whole universe revolves 321 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: around this dancing of masculine and feminine energies, of pairs 322 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: of opposites. And what yoga philosophy emphasizes and where now 323 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: a lot of body centered healing modalities and both the 324 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: West and East are emphasizing, is that UM we in 325 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: order for any healing to occur, we have to lean 326 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: into being out of control of choosing what it is 327 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: we feel, which means sometimes we're gonna feel like shit, 328 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: and sometimes we're gonna feel depressed, and sometimes we're gonna 329 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: feel lonely, and sometimes we're gonna feel angry, and the 330 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: those emotions are the key. Yeah, And I think it's 331 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: like I can just imagine some people are listening and 332 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: they're like, well, I don't want to feel depressed or 333 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to feel angry or but that's part 334 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: of being human, right, So when we box ourselves into 335 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: only feeling positive, um, you're actually inhibiting yourself from any 336 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: sort of change or growth. Like one of the things 337 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: I've started doing when I feel really sad or really 338 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: upset or angry or whatever it is, it's like, Okay, 339 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: I need to sit and talk to myself a little 340 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: bit and honestly try to understand what part of my 341 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: life is bringing that up so that I can then reevaluate, 342 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: because if I'm not happy, I'm not gonna get not 343 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: happy from just medicating that. Feeling away like that probably 344 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: means that something in my life is not authentic for me, 345 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: or isn't serving me anymore, or isn't in alignment with 346 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: where I'm going. And so the only way that I'm 347 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: going to act actually get rid of that feeling or 348 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: move into a new feeling. Is to understand it or 349 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: accept it and feel through it. Yes, well, and that 350 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that you said that sparked 351 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: something to me. Um. That's something I tell all my 352 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: clients and I try to tell myself as much as possible. 353 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: Is to remember that, yeah, say that one more time 354 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: for me ture you froze. To remember that, to remember 355 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: that everyone experiences pain, that everyone experiences loneliness, and everyone 356 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: experiences sadness again as well as everyone experiences joy, everyone 357 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: experiences community, Everyone experiences a lot at some point in 358 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: their life, right. And the thing that you're trying to 359 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: run away from them is the thing that connects you 360 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: to every person, you see, which is that we are 361 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: all vulnerable in this life. And I had one of 362 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: my body worker instructors talked about intimacy living intimately as 363 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: um intimacy being into me. See, so we all we 364 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: all crave connection and we crave love. I mean, I 365 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: think to me, that's at the core of everything that 366 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: we do is we're craving love and connection and we 367 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: can't really get love in connection if we're not starting 368 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: from an authentic place. And paradoxically, what happens I find 369 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: with my clients and even with myself when I'm struggling, 370 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: is that if I can remember that, not alone in 371 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: my loneliness, I'm not the only one that feels pained, 372 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: that everyone is experiencing sadness throughout their days at one 373 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: point or other, then I can kind of begin to 374 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: breathe again. I can kind of exhale, I can relax 375 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, I can feel a little bit more 376 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: calm about my healing process, and I can remember that 377 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: if I can be more brave about facing discomfort, that's 378 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: going to help me encourage others to be more brave too, 379 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: and that's going to create a ripple effect for humanity. UM. 380 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: I also wanted to share a couple of metaphors too, 381 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: because because yeah, we don't want to feel sad. We 382 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: don't we don't want to feel lonely, right, And what 383 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: keeps us from sitting with those sensations is the fear 384 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: that we're going to be overwhelmed by them if we 385 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: become aware of them, and we're gonna be there there 386 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: I fear that's for me, That's how I feel with 387 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: sadness if I stay with my sadness, so I'm let 388 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: myself cry that I'm just I'm not gonna want to 389 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: get off the floor. Um. But there's this paradoxical truth 390 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: which a lot of spiritual traditions point to, but that 391 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: the body um alone represents. So thinking about like, have 392 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: you practiced yen yoga before? I'm not sure? Tell me 393 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: more about it, and I'll tell you I don't know that. 394 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean you probably might have in some form or other. 395 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: And yoga is simply um doing what it is that 396 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about. So yan yoga is holding stretches for 397 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: about two to ten minutes at a time. No, actually 398 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: avoid that yoga class because it sounds really hard. The 399 00:29:52,280 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: only ones so maybe based up right. But has is 400 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: which I'm sure a lot of you out there can 401 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: relate to. This is that if we sit with a 402 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: discomfort for a couple of minutes, our our body kind 403 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: of transcends it's um, it's um armoring and its tension. 404 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: So on a physical level, by stretching and by breathing 405 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: into this stretch and not getting out of it, we 406 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: can physically feel our bodies surrendering to the stretch and 407 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: the discomfort lessening. That's like a it's a physical sensation 408 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: that many of us out there can relate to. Or 409 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: now I think I want to talk about massage from 410 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: my end and from the end of the client. That 411 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: muscles accumulate trigger points. You know, when our when our 412 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: bodies are aching, when our muscles are hurting, um, they 413 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: are muscles have the sarco mirrors. A quick little lesson here. 414 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: The start premiers are the units of contraction of the muscle. 415 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: So the sarcomeres are what allows muscles to contract and 416 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: move our bones. And so the sarcomers can deeal into 417 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: the mostly the middle of the muscle belly and they 418 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: create tension on the outside of the ends of the 419 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: muscle and then accumulate um and in flame in the 420 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: middle of the muscle belly. So that's what creates the 421 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: knots in our muscles. And what I experience when I'm 422 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: working on people, and what clients experience when I'm working 423 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: on them, is that when I press onto the trigger 424 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: point and the muscle for an extended period of time, 425 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: usually about thirty seconds to two minutes, the muscle surrenders 426 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: to my pressure and with um with trigger point therapy 427 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: and the specifically the muscles. Um, what the client feels 428 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: and what I feel is that by facing the discomfort 429 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: and the pain that's been accumulated in the muscles is 430 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: the only way to release the physical discomfort. So by 431 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: by actually me leaning into the client's discomfort, that's the 432 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: only way that the client is going to experience relief 433 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: from it. Yeah, I want to I want to talk 434 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: through our sessions a little bit so I can explain 435 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: because I think what you just said actually, I mean, 436 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: I've experienced that exact thing with you multiple times. So 437 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: let's talk people through what a session looks like. But um, 438 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, we we sit on my 439 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: couch and you asked me a bunch of questions, and 440 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of chaos in my life the 441 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: last couple of months. But we will talk through what 442 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm feeling that day, and then when I get on 443 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: your table. Um, there's a couple of things that happens. 444 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk about what you just said first, 445 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: and then I want to talk about just when you 446 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: put energy places, but when you are doing massage, there 447 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: are parts of it that are like a normal massage 448 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: or like not normal but like, uh, what people would 449 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: expect for massage, they're the point piece that you just 450 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: talked about is one of the most uncomfortable, painful experiences 451 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: I have ever had on a massage table. I mean 452 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: it is fucking brutal sometimes, Like remember that point I 453 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: had in the back of my neck and I could 454 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot. I mean, I felt like 455 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: my brain was going to explode when you were putting 456 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: pressure on it. But the more you pressed, You're exactly right, 457 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: it like it was because you did it. How long 458 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: do you usually do it? Is there a certain amount 459 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: of time or you're just waiting for the release? Um, 460 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: you usually about thirty seconds, thirty seconds to two minutes. 461 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: I was about to say, hold on thirty seconds. No 462 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: chance you had thirty seconds If it releases, maybe, but 463 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 1: like I feel like I felt like it was a 464 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: lifetime because it was so painful. But I mean it 465 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: was it felt like five minutes to me at least 466 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: for that next thing. Yeah, yeah, well I could have 467 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: been unizing the accupressure, which I hold those spots a 468 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: little bit longer. Okay, maybe you were, but it's like 469 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I could feel my body sort 470 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: of melting into your hand and like, as painful as 471 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: it was, and it continued to sort of be painful, 472 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: there was a release um and then also I had 473 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: those spots on my hips. I don't remember, but you 474 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: told me it was fight or flight, which had been 475 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: very activated in my life. And it's like I was 476 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: walking around doing daily life not knowing that I even 477 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: had pain there. But because of our discussions and because 478 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: of your skill set, you were able to identify these 479 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: certain spots in my body that the second you even 480 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: lightly touched I was like, oh, like it. It's crazy 481 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: to me though, because we're literally walking around just feeling 482 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: that stuff, but so unaware and so disconnected from our 483 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: own bodies that we don't really even know it's there 484 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: exactly well. And we are so encouraged by our society 485 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: and by our uh technology centered living to live on 486 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: the level of thought. We're like, that is the homeostasis 487 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: of our society is to is to stay kind of 488 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: living like a bobble head, you know, you we have 489 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: this huge head and his little body, and that that's 490 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: kind of how it can feel a lot of the time. 491 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: When we check in with ourselves, it's almost like I 492 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: remember when I was training for the work I was doing. 493 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: My school emphasized a lot of self care, and so 494 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: a lot of classes would be them asking us how 495 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: we were feeling and how we were doing, and so 496 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: much of us we didn't know, right, yeah, we didn't. 497 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: It took us time. It took us time to be like, 498 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: how how I am I feeling? Because our lives are 499 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: full of activity. I mean we're and we're almost Our 500 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: society prizes activity, and I think I think about sometimes 501 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: how Um. I tried when someone asked me how I'm doing, 502 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: I tried to never use the word busy, um, because 503 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it can be somewhat of a brag 504 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: in our society, right, like how you're doing, I'm really 505 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: really busy. You're like, oh, it's so rewarded as is 506 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: good and it's like cool. Right. That's just an example 507 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 1: of how activity is encouraged, and active physical activity being 508 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: fueled by mental activity. Um, and how we can kind 509 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: of be strangers to ourselves. Again, that the idea that 510 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: in the lest now we're we're we're divided into a 511 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: brain and the body, when what we're originally designed to 512 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: be is one one entity. But that division happens UM 513 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: because of trauma with a capital T or a small T, 514 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: and that division at some point, you know, early childhood on, 515 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: we get wounded enough to where we kind of live 516 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: habitually in that state of disassociation. We think backing out 517 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: to when when I was a young kid, UM, when 518 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: any of us were children, and there's this uh, even 519 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: though maybe the upbringing could have been hard and challenging 520 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: and our feelings were all very imperfect, there were moments 521 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: when there was a care freeness, like a feeling of 522 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: wholeness and of joy and of exploration and curiosity. And 523 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: over time enough traumas happened to where we get we 524 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: just get scared to feel, and so we kind of 525 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: start to shut down and we start to just live 526 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: on the level of thought because it's safe there and 527 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: thought again, viewing that as a distractor and as an 528 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: addiction to UM disassociation from sensation, UM, thought kind of 529 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: becomes a drug, and that drug becomes a numbing agent 530 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: and we lean on it so often. UM. I can 531 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: say a million things about that, which is one example. 532 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: It is just like in relational conflict with people, I 533 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: find when I and finding with my partner or usually 534 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty much the only personal fight with everyone I 535 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: can keep enough of a distance. Word doesn't happen um 536 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: when conflict happens with my partner. Instead of me slowing down, 537 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: breathing into the discomfort, I'm feeling and thinking about what 538 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: I want to say back in an intelligent and informed way. 539 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: I don't want to feel the pain of the conflict. 540 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,479 Speaker 1: So what I'll do is I'll raise my voice, I'll 541 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: speed up my words. I'll kind of distract him by 542 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: all that anger, and I'll want to if I'm not 543 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: taking my time in this situation, I'll want to blame 544 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: him for my discomfort so I don't have to feel it. 545 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: And that is one example of of of what happens 546 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: to all of us um throughout our lives is using 547 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: thought or using other people two escapegoats for the discomfort within. Again, 548 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: the discomfort is the key to the peace, to the love, 549 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: to the joy. It's not that we don't have that. 550 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: It's not that word just being masochistic, but it's that 551 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: we want to live in one love unless we fear, 552 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: and in order to do that we have to or 553 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: the crime made you within it becomes calm and then 554 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: we can rest with it. I'm so glad you brought 555 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: up trauma and big T trauma and little T trauma 556 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: and and also our connection with our inner child with 557 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: that UM, because when I was reading a lot about 558 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: thematic therapy in general, it references how great it is 559 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: for PTSD, which I think a lot of people have experienced, 560 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: and maybe we just as a culture trying to move 561 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: through that as well. But just going into that connection 562 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: with our bodies again, and it made me think about 563 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: the other part of our sessions that happen very often 564 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: is you will just lay hands on me in certain spots, 565 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: and especially I think I referenced earlier in my stomach 566 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: and so literally I can tell you, oh, I feel 567 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: uncomfortable in that area, or that I can be that 568 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: during our talk session. That can be the part that 569 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: I reference. But when I'm on your table and you 570 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: put a hand on that spot, UM, it's so interesting 571 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: now because maybe it's because we've done so many sessions 572 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: together at this point, but I can feel the block 573 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: almost and then when you put your hand on it, 574 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: it like almost gets warm, and I don't really know, 575 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: it's like it needs to be acknowledged and most of 576 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: the time I start sobbing is so interesting to me 577 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: because I think people would be like, oh cool, well 578 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: he like lace hands on you whatever, Like what's that? 579 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: You know? But it is something and I want you 580 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: to explain what this is because I actually don't understand 581 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: why this happens, but it is something that specifically my 582 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: body knows and my mind can't really wrap its How 583 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: do you say my mind can wrap its head around? 584 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: Would that be as a lot of mind and head stuff? 585 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: But you guys know what I mean. Um, I just 586 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: I can't process why it's happening where I'm like, Okay, 587 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: that feels good for a second, then all of a sudden, 588 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: before I know it, I'm just sobbing. So like, why 589 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: does that happen? What is happening to me? And what 590 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: are you doing with your hands that's bringing that to 591 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: the surface. Yes, so many things to say. Um to 592 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: start with, um, I'm sorry, let me connect that with 593 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: the thing I said about trauma, because that that is 594 00:42:51,880 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: trauma related, right, Okay, So to start with yeah, I 595 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: want to emphasize that. Mm hmmm. So, so therapy can 596 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: can start on a mental level and talk therapy, or 597 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: it can start on a physical level in somatic therapy. 598 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: So I make that clear again you've already talked about that. 599 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: But um talk therapy is starting with a mind. Somatic 600 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: theory is starting with the body both working towards the 601 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: same goal, which is what which is healing. Right, So, 602 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 1: so someone can talk to a therapist and the mental 603 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: relief that they get from that will be mirrored in 604 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: the body as a sense of physical relaxation. And that's 605 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: because the nervous system is unmlinding. Someone can go to 606 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: a somatic therapist like me in the sessions that we 607 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: have and you will start on a physical level and 608 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: the physical relaxation that occurs will spread to the mind. 609 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: So we'll have a check in, right, we'll talk about 610 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: how you're doing, we'll talk about how you're feeling. But 611 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: sometimes the healing that actually takes place on the table 612 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: may not even be totally related to the things we 613 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: talked about in the beginning of our session. Because the 614 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: body has stored um. The body stores all of our 615 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: trauma capital T trauma, small T trauma um and it's 616 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: not until wherein stillness that we have the feeling of 617 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: being safe, that we be that we can begin to 618 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 1: let those feelings rise to the surface. So what is 619 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 1: key in somatic therapy is feeling safe with the therapist 620 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: that you choose, because that safety net that they're holding 621 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: for you is allowing your nervous system to stay in 622 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: a calm place so that both pleasant and unpleasant sensations 623 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: can both manifest. Um. What I practice primarily is raiky, 624 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: So I do massage therapy UM, and I also I 625 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: practice about final modalities in a given session. But a 626 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: lot of what I practiced besides the physical massage therapy 627 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: is ricky. Recky means divine energy. Ray means divine key 628 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 1: is a life force Um. You would call that prana 629 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: and yoga, um or ch and a lot of Eastern 630 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: schools of thought and uh. Key life force is invisible 631 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: um energy that is floating around us all the time, 632 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: that is within our bodies, that is within the plant kingdom, 633 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: the animal kingdom, the galaxies. Essentially, g is what is 634 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: making the world spin and is what making is when 635 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: making the universe content continue to expand, and is what 636 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: is giving life to all living beings. And so raiki 637 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 1: is um is a modality. UM. It's a vibration that 638 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: is passed on from teachers, student from teachers, student from teachers, student, 639 00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: on on and on UM, and you become in tune 640 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: with this healing energy that is a form of cheat 641 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: of life force that we are given at birth. And 642 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: so what I'm doing in our sessions is I'm channeling 643 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: life force in a very intentional way, and i am 644 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: telling your body through touch that it is safe to 645 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: feel and that it is safe to heal. The world 646 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: we live in is it is beautiful, and it is 647 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: also a very dark place, and there's a lot of chaos, 648 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of war on small and large levels, 649 00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: and it's very difficult to feel feel safe and day 650 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: to day life. And so carving out that time UM, 651 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: like the time even I have with someone that is 652 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: there solely to let your body feel safe UM is 653 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: pretty fundamental to UM, to any form of growth or 654 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: healing UM. And one other thing I wanted to say 655 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 1: about that was raiky the still work that we do 656 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: where I'm simply just channeling that life force UM towards 657 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: your body in the specific place. I will pick those 658 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: places based off of my knowledge of the chuk ras 659 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: c h A, k r A. A lot of people 660 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: call them chakras, but technically Sanskrit they pronounced chukras. And 661 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: that's where our body, our mind, and our spirit meet 662 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: um in seven main centers running along our spinal column, 663 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: pertaining to particular aspects of the human experience. So UM 664 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: and I'm really trying to simplify this as simple as 665 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: as possible. We have these seven main energy centers. The 666 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: first one is at the base of the spine, is 667 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 1: called the root chukra, and that has to do solely 668 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: with our physical sense of safety, UM and security and 669 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: feeling connected to the earth, feeling a part of the earth. 670 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: The one above that is called a shoddy stana chuker, 671 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: the sacral chukra, and that begins to deal with feelings 672 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: of m connection to the world around us. UM above 673 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: that has to do with our connection to our sense 674 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: of self and our world power. And each of these 675 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 1: seven energy centers, as we progress up the spinal column, 676 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,720 Speaker 1: here's the tail, about here's the skull. As we progress 677 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: up the spinal column, the energy centers begin to deal 678 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 1: with more subtle and material aspects of our being, until 679 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 1: we work our way up to the mind, where thought 680 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: is and thought is totally invisible, totally immaterial. Above thought 681 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: above the mind is the devine, is our connection to 682 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: that which is beyond our understanding. Again, the physical body 683 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: being uh living mataphor for our spirit. So when we're 684 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: talking and checking at the beginning of a session, you're 685 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: telling me the things that are going on. I'm thinking. 686 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm thinking in terms of ruckers, where where are we 687 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: going to work today? And um, a lot of times, 688 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: a lot of clients I have the work is a 689 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: lot around the sage, roll around the lower active in 690 00:50:52,239 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: the melly, because that's relationships and they're also I'm going 691 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: to change the narrative. They're hard, but they don't. This 692 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: healing work helps to navigate relationships even it's been crazy 693 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: what it's changing in my life, because that the body 694 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: is the boundary between self and other. Right, body shows 695 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 1: us where we end and where other people begin. And 696 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 1: so much as the confusion in relationships I know in 697 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,240 Speaker 1: my old life have to do with what was mine 698 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: doing in the conflict and what was the air doing 699 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: in this conflict? How can impossibility to help healing on 700 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: this relational um. So, understanding where our bodies are at 701 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: in time and space and their healing journey is a 702 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 1: prerequisite for having any form of health in relationships, whether 703 00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 1: that's friendships, romantic or family or um. So full circle 704 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: back to the original question was what are you doing 705 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: when you're when you're doing that, still working in the 706 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: particular parts of the body, Why do I feel the 707 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: energetic block? Why do I feel this energetic release by 708 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: just lying there? And the answer to that is, um 709 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: is raiky. Is that channeling divine life energy towards that 710 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: particular part of your body that is stored trauma from 711 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: either relational or mental or familial um uh, trauma in 712 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: the past, and it's allowing it to be accepted. And 713 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean simply that, um, simply that that and the 714 00:52:52,440 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: acceptance is the change. And that's kind of to what 715 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: we're told by culture. Yes, I went to a convention 716 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: this weekend and we were doing an exercise and it 717 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: was kind of a similar thing to what you asked 718 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 1: me with where do I feel that like in my body? 719 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm very able to because of the work 720 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: I've been doing with you. I can pretty quickly get 721 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: there now, like I can see what's happening. And so 722 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: I started to tell them my little group and then UM, 723 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: they were asking me questions around that, and it was 724 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: so interesting because what you just said just made me 725 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: think of this. I just started sobbing, and then they 726 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: were kind of asking me what else I need, and 727 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: I said, I actually don't think I need anything. It 728 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to be acknowledged, like my body just wanted 729 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: me to know I was holding something there and then 730 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: once I acknowledged it, it almost released. It was interesting. Um, 731 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: but I do think and I feel like this is 732 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: how I was. You know, I have lived most of 733 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: my life is being so out of touch what's happening 734 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: in my body, Like when I was listening to talk 735 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: about the chakraates. You've taught me how important that flow 736 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: of energy up and down my body is. And some 737 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: of the work we have done has been around my 738 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 1: route where it's it can't flow out, like I just 739 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: get super stuck there and that's very relational or um 740 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: my foundation, you know, like you it's it hasn't been secure, 741 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 1: and so my body is clinching and just holding holding 742 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: the energy in because I'm scared to release it. But 743 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: when I release it, the flow of my life, the 744 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,439 Speaker 1: way that I can show up in relationship, the way 745 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: I can show up in anything in my life is 746 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: completely different. So if you're listening and you're kind of 747 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: like this all sounds really woo woo, I just would say, like, 748 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: don't try to understand even what we're saying. Just go 749 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: lay on the table and try it, because you can't 750 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: almost put words to this kind of work. You have 751 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: to feel it, which is kind of the point, right, 752 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: exactly right. I just want to emphasize to someone we 753 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: talked about earlier, which is about, um, we want to 754 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 1: analyze our problems and our discomfort and our pain because 755 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 1: we want to control it, right, And analyzing is a 756 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: totally different mental faculty than experiencing, and experiencing is accepting, 757 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: and accepting is changing. So all truths that they are 758 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 1: the greatest truth in life of paradoxical. They're they're paradox 759 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:44,959 Speaker 1: because what we resist will persist, yes, And the only 760 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: way that we can resist our pain is by thinking, 761 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: and the only way we can accept our pain in 762 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: order to heal it is by feeling. And it is 763 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: really that simple and right. I'm just wanna say, people, 764 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: get on the table, just do it. Yeah, just you'll 765 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: feel so much better and lighter and freer. I actually 766 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: I asked you before the podcast of how you wanted 767 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: people to reach you if they were interested in the session, 768 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, do I want to give people his 769 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: because I'm scared you'll get too busy, But um, but 770 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 1: I do want to because, especially if you're in Nashville. 771 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: Trades work has truly changed my life and is continuing 772 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 1: to change my life, and um, really get me to 773 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: a place of where I am able to access certain 774 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: parts of myself that I didn't even know existed. Um. 775 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: And also my practice through the day has changed completely 776 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 1: because of my awareness that you've taught me about my 777 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: own body. So, like I said earlier, that went to 778 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: that convention this weekend, and I can't wait for our 779 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: session this week trade because I can't wait to tell 780 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,399 Speaker 1: you about it because so much of what you've taught me. 781 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: I know so much of what you taught me. I 782 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: was finally able to see the growth that's been happening. 783 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: Like I couldn't really see it although everyone around me 784 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: was telling me that, but it really brought it out. 785 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: So tell people where they can find you, just don't 786 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 1: take them away from me. I practiced no social media 787 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: because it's so all of that acted simply through email, 788 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: and I do word of mouth and now advertisement through 789 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: this podcast. So you can contact me by email at 790 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: Rooted Healing Arts at gmail dot com. That's our t E. D. 791 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: Healing Arts at gmail dot com. And I would love 792 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: to help you accept yourself as you are. Yes, I'll 793 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: put the help put his email in a description to 794 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: if you guys want to reach out, UM, just tell 795 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: him you heard about him on the Velvet's Edge podcast 796 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,919 Speaker 1: and UM, just do the work, y'all. It is so 797 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: rewarding and it's the most piece of thought in my 798 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: body in a really long time. So try. Thank you 799 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: so much, thank you for being here. I'll see you 800 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: on Friday. I can't wait. All right, Thank you guys 801 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: for listening. 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