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Speaker 1: discretion is advised. The World's origion. Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered

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Speaker 1: super Bowl Rematch here Tray, did you hear what I said?

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Speaker 1: What super Bowl rematch? Yeah, it's a rematch. When he

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Speaker 1: says it, I said, it's not a rematch. In a

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Speaker 1: and help you out here. Fred should come over and

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Speaker 1: give them your blessing. Yeah, I'll present the ring like

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Speaker 1: Prema with Fred. Yeah, I know I was calling past years.

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Speaker 1: I've had very good records. You had a good record,

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Speaker 1: bless It's such a fraud. Don't make me go and

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Speaker 1: get my notebooks, you know. In that respect, it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing. This is in a way game Wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a top This is Patriot's Unfiltered fueled

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Speaker 1: by Duncan. All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is

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Speaker 1: Tuesday here at Gilette Stadium, a rare day after show

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Speaker 1: for the world's original podcast twelve Hours. Yeah. Usually, you know,

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Speaker 1: we usually we skip like after a Monday night because

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Speaker 1: Ei takes over the studio for Patriots Monday on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and so we're like, all right, just let them have

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Speaker 1: their time. But I don't know where they are, so

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Speaker 1: we're here. But we were planning on having this show anyway,

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Speaker 1: so always. Yeah, So it's really a continuation of the

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Speaker 1: postgame show because, you know, not a lot of new

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Speaker 1: new information since last night builded his morning hit um

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Speaker 1: with Ei in you know, really just sticking to his guns,

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Speaker 1: out and say, we got Mac a little work last night.

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Speaker 1: We're feeling good about the direction he's in. I mean,

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Speaker 1: read between the lines and themselves. You know, we were

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Speaker 1: But he's a human being. You know, after two series,

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Speaker 1: Robert like he's writ in that pantheum right. It was

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Speaker 1: happen to me, you know. Um, So believe me they

424
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Speaker 1: they pay attention to everything and and keep an eye

425
00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,239
Speaker 1: on this, because I will be shocked if it's not

426
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: one apparent to the team who the starting quarterback is

427
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: for the Jets. I'll be shocked me too, if I

428
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: thought I would be too. But I'm already borderline shocked

429
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: that we don't know right now. Yeah, like I thought

430
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: when he talked to the media this morning, he would say,

431
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, we had a chance to

432
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: see Mack. He came out of the game physically. Okay,

433
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, he'll he'll be the starter. It's a short week,

434
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: so tomorrow is game planned day. And I'm with you, Paul,

435
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 1: but I'll be even doubly shocked if by tomorrow at

436
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: four o'clock we don't know who the starting quarterback with you, Jet,

437
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think that he would look at

438
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: that in retrospect. He won't admit it to us, he

439
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: doesn't need to, but I think he would say that

440
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: the way he handled it last week was not in

441
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: the best interest of the team. Also, Fred, back to

442
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: what you said about, you know, paying attention to just

443
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: the little things. One thing we talked about in the

444
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: pregim show, which I don't know if you guys talked

445
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: about it again on the post game was um Isaiah

446
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: went and how he scrubbed his whole Instagram and then coincident,

447
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know that. Yeah, so another player did

448
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: the same thing last night. Um scrubbed his whole Instagram

449
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: and Damon Harris, Oh really, scrubbot whole instagram, changed profile picture,

450
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: deleted all his Patriots photos and why Yeah, and he

451
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: put a few back on there this morning. But it

452
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: was just very odd and it was just like, what

453
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: a weird thing to do right after the game. Maybe

454
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: he feels like I need to start over or something

455
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: like that, but but it's weird. Next thing, you know,

456
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: the house is for sale. Isaiah win Um. I'm obviously

457
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: he was limited all week in practice, but I still

458
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 1: think it's odd that his his Patres scrubbed and then

459
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: he didn't play well. I wonder, like, you know, people speculate,

460
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: and they should if he's being held out, you know,

461
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: because they might want to move him. I mean, and

462
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: I just said, and I did push back a little

463
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: on tomorrow last night in the pregame. He didn't play

464
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: because he was hurt. But that doesn't mean that he

465
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: also is not on the block, like I think Tamara

466
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: and I both can be right here right like he

467
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: he might be battling an injury that they said, you

468
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: know what you're not you're not playing well, and in

469
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: the back of their mind they're like, and we're going

470
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: to move you in a week, right. I don't think

471
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 1: they'll move them because who wants them? Yeah, but well,

472
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: you know you you say that, but like, let's go

473
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: back to the agents. The agents and other teams here

474
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: say you know, he's he's not being he's not being

475
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: used the right way, blah blah blah. They moved him

476
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: to right tackle they didn't. But I think that's why

477
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: you get the scrubbing of the stuff. So then you

478
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: get the other teams that their ego bring them over here,

479
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: we'll get them, right, you know, right, But a lot

480
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: of Patriots have done that. But if he's right, what

481
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: is he is? My point? I know, pro Bowl guard,

482
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: but he's a left guard. Okay, can you say it

483
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: like he's not that I think he is, Like we're

484
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: four years in. He's not what you thought here because

485
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: they haven't used them that way they should. He's a

486
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: left guard. He's a pro Bowl guard. They might need

487
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: a left guard. I just think it's weird. Why what's

488
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: wrong with cold strange? We'll see what happens if David

489
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: Andrews is out this week. Because David Andrews holds his

490
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: hand on every place, true. I just think it's Oh

491
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: and he deleted pictures again? Oh jeez, oh boy, Harris. Yes,

492
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: he only got three carries, so maybe he's and he

493
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: was healthy like they he wasn't like he was renewed

494
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: from the injury point. You know, who knows. I don't

495
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: know like this, I just think is this the thing? Now?

496
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: That's that was my question. It's like I would rather

497
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: like leave the pictures up there so then no one

498
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: knows if something is going. Oh no, they're acting out

499
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: children because because threebo did that debo scrubbed his page

500
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: of everything forty nine ers until and that's his whole

501
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: situation and then now it's bad, it's acting out. Is

502
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: that how you tell someone like, you know, no, Bill,

503
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm good, Damian, you you're you're still You're still still

504
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: like okay, all right, it's I'll show you, right, sub

505
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: It's just so how you're doing, like I guess. So

506
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: it's like, because I erson you do that when you

507
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: break up with your girlfriend boyfriend, you delete your whole

508
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: page and change your profile chets page. I just it's weird,

509
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, weird. Just another thing I wanted to bring

510
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: up was do you think that there's something to be

511
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: said for like maybe given the team the opportunity to

512
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 1: kind of come and play for Mac Jones who got

513
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: booed by his own fans here, like, you know, if

514
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: he really is the guy, I would I would hope

515
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: that on the team there's some sense of like this

516
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: guy has been like organizing offseason, he's a captain, let's

517
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: rally around this guy and play for him. Like I

518
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: don't get that sense at all, And it seems like

519
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: it's being fed too, because nobody really knows what's going on.

520
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: So I got the sense with Myers anyway, I mean

521
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: I agree at least like words. I mean, with his

522
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: words he supported, He's like supported. I mean, it's thanks,

523
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: but that's SNAFL so good luck. I just that's that's tough.

524
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: It's tough. I mean, I think everybody, except for maybe

525
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: the people booing him, felt a little bit bad for

526
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: for Mac. Class last night. There was a lot of

527
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: that on Twitter. Hard when when when Zappy came in

528
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: and immediately threw a touchdown, there was like five or

529
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: six people are like I kind of feel bad for Mac, Right, yeah,

530
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: I did. I literally texted my family. I was like,

531
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine just like internally being booed off and

532
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: then hearing my backup come in and he their cheers

533
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: a chance for him, he scores a touchdown, right, especially

534
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: because it's like a blown coverage. Like it wasn't like

535
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: he came in and threaded the needle and was like

536
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: throw a dime and you're like, well, I just gotta

537
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: tip my hat because he's really good. It was like,

538
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and to be fair, I mean, maybe those

539
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: places were there to be Mabel Mac was in and

540
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: he just didn't make him. I don't I have I

541
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: won't eliminate that as a possibility. But still, but these

542
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: are the facts. Okay, this is the facts. So like

543
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: Mac Mac's first possession, he takes over at the twenty two,

544
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the seventeen. His second possession, he takes over

545
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: at the twenty one. His third possession, he takes over

546
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: at the twenty three. Zappy comes in. Where do you

547
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: think they took over midfield forty five? Second possession? What

548
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: do you think he took over field fifty? Like that's

549
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: like Matt, like Mac Jones and Bai Zappy had nothing

550
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: to do with their average starting field position on those

551
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: first five drives. Okay, the next drive that Baileys Zappie started,

552
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: where do you start his own? Twenty seven? How'd how'd

553
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: that end? Not with points? And then he went twenty seven,

554
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: eighteen fourteen, No points on any of those drives, Like,

555
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: that's not just an insignificant thing. You start near midfield,

556
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna score, right, and you have that one

557
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: big chunk play and he makes it easy. He had

558
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: seventy three yards on two throws. Yeah, and one of

559
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: them was a terrible throw, an incredible catch by Myers.

560
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: Now the one to Parker good solid throw, great catch

561
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: by Parker, by good solid throw by Zappy. Yeah, and

562
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: Mac is not making those plays. And to Mike's point,

563
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe he's missing some of that

564
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: stuff and maybe the reason for the timing of taking

565
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: Mac out. This kind of was a developing opinion as

566
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: I was driving in today, Like we all talked about

567
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: it at the time Live. How many times do you

568
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: just like take off? Yeah? Yeah, Like do you think

569
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: maybe Mac? And Matt Patricia and Joe jg Were saying, Matt,

570
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: I mean Bill s Bill, Matt and Matt Patricia was saying,

571
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, Mac, where are you going? Just stay in

572
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: the pocket. There's plays to be made. Run the play,

573
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: execute your read, you know, go through your progressions. Don't

574
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: look to escape before you need to. And then it's

575
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: like three drives and the same thing happened, and the

576
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: pick was the same thing. He leaves the pocket and

577
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: goes over and makes the play, and they're like, you

578
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: know what, he's not trusting the process. We got to

579
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: get him out. Evan was funny because Evan was mad

580
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: before the game. You know, the fog is I'm really

581
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: worried about the all twenty two. I'm not sure, but

582
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: this is a good week for his analysis, Like was

583
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 1: mac missing plays? Like what was going on in the

584
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: route progress, you know, in the route trees while he's

585
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: in the pocket. See even if they were, even if

586
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: they he wasn't aarily missing receivers. I don't think they

587
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: want him running around like like he wasn't under siege

588
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: last night. I don't think that the pressure was such

589
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: that did you just had to get out Like against Baltimore,

590
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 1: he was under siege and he had to get out

591
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: of the pocket and make plays with his feet, and

592
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: I thought he did that effectively. I don't think he

593
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: had to do that last No. I think that was

594
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: more of like the hero Ball moment coming in showing

595
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: showing people like my angle works, it works, just fun.

596
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: I think it was I'm out of here, like I

597
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: don't think he trusted it, and like the first one

598
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: was like it was after that penalty right on. I

599
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: think Trent Brown got a penalty and that was third

600
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: and eleven and he scrambled up the middle for six

601
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: hut and it was like third and eleven, like unless

602
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: the red sea just parted and he has no one

603
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: near him, like you're not getting third and eleven right, yeah, yeah,

604
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: and it was quick. I thought it was a quick

605
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: decision to get out of the pocket. You mentioned like

606
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: he wanted to as the ankle. We were joking around

607
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: last night, like in the huddle, He's like, guys, here's

608
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: the play, but I'm going to test the ankle on

609
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: this plas test the ankle on too. Yeah. I mean,

610
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: ankle looked looked good. No one looked good. Like his

611
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: mobility looked fine. You know, he was other than the

612
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: one where he was under pressure and threw off his

613
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: back foot for the interception, he was planting. He was,

614
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, distributing the weight fine. Didn't look like he

615
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: was favoring one foot. I thought that was the only

616
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: positive that came out as he hotel. Yeah yeah, yeah.

617
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: What also didn't look at the running game. Yeah, it

618
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: didn't look at which was weird. I expected that to be.

619
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: The Bears came to play, they did, and they were

620
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: just beating us in the trenches both sides. And you know,

621
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: when you realize that, you gotta adjust, you know, And

622
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: I think you know, when Zappi came in, he was

623
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: using a lot of like swing passes and check downs

624
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: to Stevenson and they were kind of working, you know,

625
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: that's the other good one word. No, No No, he had

626
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: more than one. He had a lot of little check

627
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: downs to Stevens and none of them were positive. There

628
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: was one on the third down that confirmed many How

629
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: many yards catching did Stevenson have? He had a lot

630
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: of catches. He had eight catches, Yeah, and I think

631
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: that was there was only one of them that was

632
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: a positive, like a really good play at a twenty

633
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: yard play, and it was the first third down that

634
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: he came in. Well, I think the rest of them

635
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: were all plays down down nineteen points that they're throwing

636
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: underneath good luck. I think as we're scratching for positives,

637
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: I think one of them is like Stevenson kind of

638
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: emerging as a better pass as a decent pass catcher.

639
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: You know. I think he's far and away the better

640
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: of the two. Yeah, I think that. And I'm hoping that,

641
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, the scrubbing of the Instagram changing their profile picture,

642
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it was just like you know, one of

643
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: those like emotional things. Yeah, and then he because he's

644
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: slowly adding puctures back from last night, everything was gone

645
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: profile picture. Maybe it was just changing. But then also

646
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: archiving thirty Patriots photos. That's weird. But but add this

647
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: to Mary, add this to the little bucket of let's

648
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: watch the locker room. Let's yeah, this is part of it.

649
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: And that was you might need to go in and

650
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: talk to the fellas. I might come in on Friday,

651
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: and just but I think I would. I would rather

652
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: do it like and Irish could buy and not delete anything.

653
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: And just like if I was receiving trade interests or

654
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: whatever it is, I'd rather not know. Well, it's called

655
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: passive aggressive. It's passive aggressive. They use social media that way.

656
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: The other thing did you see my Instagram? Yeah? No,

657
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: why what's on it? You know? The other thing the

658
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: other thing players will do in this age is, you know,

659
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: you know on social media is they won't scrub, but

660
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: they'll come up with like some weird where like you know,

661
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: just ain't fair. And then everyone's like, hey, you want

662
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: to elaborate. What does that happen with Cam Newton? When

663
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: we were at the Eagles training camp, we were there,

664
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: someone said, like, you posted such and such on your

665
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: Instagram story? What did that mean? He's like, uh, nothing

666
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: related to the Patriots. Like it was just crazy. So

667
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: but like they'll do that though, Yeah, you know, and

668
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: what are you shaking your hands here? Just tell us

669
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: who the starter is? What does it mean? Or you

670
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: know Patrick Chung was big on than that. You know. Yeah,

671
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes people say things and you just can't

672
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: trust them. Okay, who were you talking about? Yeah? What

673
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: are you talking to? The best thing you can do

674
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: there is just ignore it, Yeah, because that's exactly what

675
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: they're craving. Oh yeah, they want everybody to be like,

676
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 1: what's the matter? What's the matter? Asked me about why

677
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: I have this bad look on my face? You right,

678
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: But I don't. I will say, you know, it probably

679
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: was just I'm hoping just you know, three carries. I'm

680
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: hoping that that it was just you know, it's kind

681
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: of mature, but well, I mean he sees the writing

682
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: on the wall too. He's going to be here another

683
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: half a season. Yeah, and so I'm hoping you know,

684
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: a few pictures were added back. Maybe it's just you

685
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: you've had a good night's sleep, you woke up and

686
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, so keep keep on which pictures

687
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: like any anything in particular? Is there a pattern here

688
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: that the Steeler's picture was added back? You know that's

689
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: a good Nagie Harris isn't doing that well, like he's

690
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: approven that trade destination. Oh my gosh, that's that's reading. Really,

691
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: what are you talking about that dealers? He's readers would

692
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: want to trade for. They're not gonna trade Damien Harris.

693
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: Why not and leave themselves at one running back for

694
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. How you got pier strong

695
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: you got to keep and maybe yourself with one running

696
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: back for the rest of the year. Like those guys

697
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: aren't ready. Maybe we're fire sale. Maybe we're like, you

698
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: know what, we lost one game, Like do I have

699
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 1: to be the one that raised the troops? They lost

700
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: one game. I don't know if Damien Harris isn't going anywhere. Yeah, okay,

701
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: they're not gonna trade Damian win could be traded because

702
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: they just won him out, But they're not gonna trade

703
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: Damien Happy. No, you can't. I don't know. He'll leaders

704
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: a free agent at the end of the year. More

705
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: than it was an emotional archive, I don't I would not.

706
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if they traded. Why are you

707
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: acquiring people? It's one of the few teams in the

708
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: worst spot than the Patriots. Yeah, I don't know. I

709
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I like Pittsburgh. Oh he might like them,

710
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: but like, seriously, if you're Pittsburgh, why would you trade

711
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: for somebody? You would trade somebody to somebody from draft

712
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: picks because you're rebuilding right. Yeah, now, Isaiah Win or

713
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, that's different. But damon Harris, non Hittsburgh will

714
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: trade for Isaiah Win. They need offensive line help. Okay.

715
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Now if Kendrick Bourne scrubbed his page, then I'd be like, hmm,

716
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: that's different. That's different. Yeah, that's a different one. I

717
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: got two little sleep tip. We just put a last week.

718
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: We posted a do year life episode with Kendrick Bourne.

719
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I figured we get people saying, oh, Patriots, you know,

720
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: maybe you know, Kendrick Bourne's out of the doghouse. Maybe

721
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: you know people reading into that you know, didn't happen

722
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: now did work? So he's a guy that out of

723
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: all these guys that we're talking about in terms of

724
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: never November first, by the way, it's the trade deadline,

725
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: so it's coming quickly today. I think Kendrick Bourne is

726
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: a candidate. So yeah, toe injury is that a sticking

727
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: point though? If he's got a little bit of an

728
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: turf toe, yeah, but I mean, whoever would acquire him,

729
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: you know it's turf toe. You know he's out for

730
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: a week or two or whatever, and you know you

731
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: go from there. Now if it's more serious, because turf

732
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: toe can be there's definitely varying degrees of that. You

733
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: saw the guy from Chicago, the offensive lineman that left

734
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: the game last night. They carted him off with yeah,

735
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: um and he I mean they didn't say turf toe,

736
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: but they said a toe injury. So when they announced that,

737
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: there's only one kind, right, So it's not it's it's

738
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 1: it's not as Jermaine Wiggins would say, it's not not Yeah,

739
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think it would be a deal breaker

740
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: for someone that's looking for a wide receiver down the stretch,

741
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: ye Green Bay. I just wonder about like what kind

742
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: of like what what is going to be the motivation

743
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: for making trades. Is it going to be to acquire picks?

744
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: Is it going to be is it to win now

745
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: or is it for the What would your motivation be?

746
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: My mind right now would probably be to acquire picks too,

747
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: and and and shed you know, any positions of depth

748
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: that you potentially have and try to max your your

749
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: draft capital. But I also wonder about the the locker

750
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: room element of you know, and I don't want to

751
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: overplay what Kendrick Bourne potentially means or doesn't mean to

752
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: the locker room, but you know, just the ramifications of

753
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: trading somebody like Isaiah Wynn within the locker room versus

754
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: the ramifications for trading somebody like I don't think they're

755
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna trade Damien Harris, but but Damien Harris, who you know,

756
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: or even Kendrick Bourne to an extent that I think

757
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: has some leadership juice within the locker room or guys

758
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: you know kind of look to them a little bit

759
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: for energy or barking. Yeah, I mean, I think I

760
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: would have do with Mike. I I'm not looking to

761
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: have the Fred Curst fire sale, but if I had

762
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: someone you know, calling me do that you can acquiring

763
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: about about guys um, I would definitely be looking to

764
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: acquire picks, not necessarily like acquired talent. I have to

765
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: have Evan pay very close attention to the mood practice. Yeah.

766
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: Another one could be Nelson. That's another one that I'm like,

767
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: didn't play much last night. Kind of the fourth receiver

768
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Yeah, he's a guy that I

769
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: don't think would have much. It's like I think someone

770
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: would would take Kendrick Bourne and say, you know, we've

771
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: seen him be productive, he's on a reasonable contract. Will

772
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: we'll take home. I could do some different stuff, you know.

773
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: Aglord makes a lot of money right and is doing now.

774
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman on the broadcast last night said that Taekwon

775
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Thornton is the second best receiver on the team right now.

776
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: Who was the first who? He didn't say, Uh, he

777
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: said Thornton is the I mean Myers, Myers has to

778
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: be the best. I guess that catchy, but he said

779
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: that Thornton is the second best. Like that really caught

780
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: my ears. I think I'm like, I think it's telling. Yeah,

781
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: he's he's a long way away. Still. Yeah, I didn't

782
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: see really much he had. I mean he has ability.

783
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: You can see it, like he has ability to get open.

784
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: And I thought that early one that Mac missed him.

785
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: I thought he was open. I thought he had a

786
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: step just when the Bears cornerback did the Ellis Hobbs.

787
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: I got beat by three yards, but the past was

788
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: off target. You did the that was that's otherwise known

789
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: as the Ellis Hobbs. I think Thornton can play, but

790
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean we haven't really seen much yet. All right,

791
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: eight five five past five hundred is the ace ticket

792
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: hut line web radio at Patriots dot Com is the

793
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: email address. Let's turn to our listeners. We'll start with

794
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: Jim and new Haven. What's up Jim? Hey, Hey Fred?

795
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: How you doing in the gang? Love the show? Thanks,

796
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: thank you. I just got a little quarterback controversy point

797
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: and something about the defense and when Bailey Zappy was playing.

798
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: It was after the Cleveland game that you know, I

799
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to call a weakness or

800
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: not potential weakness. In the locker room celebration, he was

801
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: talking to Craft and they looked about the same height,

802
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: and I was worried about his height and like maybe

803
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: tip balls and things like that than Robert Kraft. But yeah,

804
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: height is an issue. It's an issue with both guys though, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

805
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean when you're that when you're that short, you

806
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: need to be carefully. You need to look for your

807
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: passing lanes. Do you need to You know it's subtle,

808
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: but you need to move your feet left or right,

809
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: just a little bit, just enough to get that lane. Yeah.

810
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: And to Jim's point, there were a number of passes

811
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: bad down last yes, yeah, just up. We had a

812
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: little yesterday. Yeah. I also got a point about the defense.

813
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: You know, to me, the last four or five years

814
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: kind of the same. We can't handle a running quarterback.

815
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: You know, they rushed when they rushed, the rushed passed

816
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback behind them and you're out of position. And

817
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: to me, bad tackle. And they would say they tackle

818
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: very well, and I don't really see the great tackles.

819
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: To me, bad tack one. And um, they did not

820
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: tackle well last night. I think they've tackled well this

821
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: season though. Yeah. The other the other thing I noticed

822
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: that from last night was in the run game, initial

823
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: hit like one or two yards, but then the push

824
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: and one or two yard game turns into four. Montgomery

825
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: had a lot of yards after contact. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

826
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: even Matt Judan, who we probably think is the best,

827
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, defensive player making plays and facts, but he

828
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: gets the sacks, but we still go for first down.

829
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: And one of the facts I think on one play

830
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: that he got then he doesn't set the edge and

831
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: fields runs right by him for the first down. So

832
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: in the gates what he just did, right, it seems

833
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: like it's not timely what they're doing. You know. Yeah,

834
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: they struggled, but I would say that they haven't really

835
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: struggled in the recent past with teams like last night,

836
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: like offenses that are like one dimensional and uh really

837
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: not overly productive. Those are the kinds that they usually

838
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: shut down and we and we saw when fields passed,

839
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: he missed a lot. He's inaccurate, but wide open and sewing.

840
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: The guy's wide open all nights. Yeah, so that's what

841
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: that'sn't made it worse for the defense last day because

842
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: it looked like the plan from non football coach was

843
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: stay in front of him, don't let them, don't let them,

844
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, run through you run sideways. And then it

845
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: seems like that he could past all but they led

846
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: him run. That was a that was the thing. He

847
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: really wasn't a good pastor at all. So we had

848
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: the edge there and we gave it up. Yeah, they

849
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: need a better plan. Thanks, Jim, appreciate the call. We'll

850
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: go to Todd in North Carolina. Hey Todd, Hey, guys,

851
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: I think tomorrow was spot on. They didn't play within themselves,

852
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that she said before

853
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: a game, that they had to, you know, play their

854
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: style of game, and they just really didn't. They got outcoached,

855
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: they got outplayed. It just didn't look good. And the

856
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: other thing I remember is last week the lady called

857
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: in from Chicago and she was worried, and you guys

858
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: kind of poopooed her, and she said, you know, these

859
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: got I watched their practice fields. Has got something, he's

860
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: got some movement. He's a big guy. They got to

861
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: be prepared for him. And you guys didn't really take

862
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: her seriously. Yeah, I didn't know. I thought the Patriots

863
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: were good. I won't make that mistake going forward. Yeah,

864
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: I get it. I do get it, because I mean,

865
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I pooh pooed it. I thought the

866
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: Patriots would roll in this game. I'll take my medicine.

867
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: I was wrong, and I agreed with so I guess

868
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: I eat some crow too. But you know, it's coaching.

869
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: I think I just think we got out coached. It

870
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: really felt like we were just grasping at straws. Yeah it,

871
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean these are one of you know, usually when

872
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: Bill says, oh, you know, we got out coached. It's like, okay,

873
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, team team loss, but this is one of

874
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: the games where I really do think, you know, we

875
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: lost the coaching battle. Yeah, I agree, And I feel like,

876
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: oh week I kind of was just like, is justin fields,

877
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: like you know, hitting a wall here? Or are they

878
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: just not using him right? And I think that Monday

879
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: night game last night, I think they used him appropriately.

880
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: I feel like we haven't really seen that out of him.

881
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: That was probably arguably his best game as a pro. Yeah. Um,

882
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: and I'm just really sad and unfortunate that he had

883
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: against us. Yeah right, Yeah, like any other game, but

884
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: that one right, save that for the vikings. Um. Eldred's

885
00:43:52,880 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Hey, Aldred, Aldred? Oh, I don't even

886
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: hear the truck, Aldred, you're there, Aldred? Aldred talks to us.

887
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: All right, please we'll go to the We got a

888
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: lot of emails, a lot of emails, Antoine writes in

889
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: from Montreal. You guys touch quickly on the multiple quarterback point,

890
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna off my head, but I can't remember

891
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: them playing well against one. This mobile quarterbacks well against

892
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: one since the league has shifted that way. Unless the weather,

893
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: level of the field. I feel like it comes back

894
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: to the fact that they would rather have sound and

895
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: discipline players in the field instead of the best athletes.

896
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: I would think that to stop an athlete at quarterback,

897
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: you need athletes to catch him and bring him down

898
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: because when they play sound and everything is covered, the

899
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: QB takes off for twenty yards, so we have eleven

900
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: guys trying to catch him. Maybe it comes back to

901
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: the epic Fred and Paul argument about playing the young, faster,

902
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: more athletic players. So what they make, So what they

903
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: make some mistakes and blow a cover for a sixty

904
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: yard touched down. I'd like to see them stop a

905
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: drive on third down and not have a fifteen play

906
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: eight r drive. Thanks for the therapy, Keep up the

907
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: great work. Yeah, And to his point, like we talked

908
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: about the linebackers earlier, you know, with ray Kua, McMillan

909
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: and mac wilson. I looked up they played twelve plays

910
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: and eleven plays nothing, So they were among the least

911
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: utilized defensive players they had last night, you know, they

912
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: had more Jabril peppers. I think when Dugger went out, um,

913
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, he played a reasonable amount, but I don't.

914
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't really know why they It just seems like

915
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: Bill can't help himself. He's gonna he's gonna gravitate toward

916
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: to buy over like oocha or you know mack Wilson

917
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: or something like that too. And I'm not telling yeah, yeah, yeah,

918
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: And I'm not telling you that mack Wilson's the answer.

919
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: I think he's not. Like he's a cast up. But

920
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: like I thought there were opportunities in the draft to

921
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: get some athletes and maybe mold them for the future.

922
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: And smaller but sideline linebacker. Yeah yeah, But at the

923
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: same time, like I would just say, like they should

924
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: be better than this. If Kyle Dugger is the player

925
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: that a lot of people say he is, and and

926
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips, I think he's a really good football player too.

927
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean, those are two good in the box safety

928
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: types that they have to be better than this, like

929
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: they just like Kyle Dugger, he got hurt again, Like

930
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, it stinks that somehow he gets hurt against

931
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: the mobile quarterbacks and then all of a sudden, it's

932
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: like we don't have our only guy that can stop people.

933
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: But he missed a nice tackle in the backfield. Oh yeah,

934
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: he struggled. Yeah, maybe that was and maybe he was

935
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: hurt before that. Assistency, you know, consistency, it's Wan writes

936
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: in from Stratford. Three quick points. One This one is

937
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: for Paul. We kept more injury free. Um two we

938
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: should have stuck with Mac for at least the first half.

939
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: And three. Silver pants are cursed and I'm glad Fred

940
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: called it last night. The silver they're like gray and

941
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: they don't match the helmet, So I am not on

942
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: board and needs silver pants. Like what like I was thinking, like,

943
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, they have like a shiny silver helmet. What

944
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: if the pants were shiny silver? That would be kind

945
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: of like they lions shiny silver pants. But I mean like,

946
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: like you know how like like chrome some people wear

947
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: the bubble jackets and they're like shiny, you know what

948
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Like the pants are like that, So you

949
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: mean like, uh, like Notre Dame's helmet. It's like yeah, chrome, yeah, chrome, yeah,

950
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: chrome pants. Yeah, chrome pants. He has to seem like

951
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: he was chrome. But it seemed like Judean was slow

952
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: to get up a few times during the game. Anyone

953
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: else see this And do you think you'll show up

954
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: on the injury report. Nah, nah, nah, I don't know.

955
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Refresh my memory was the on it

956
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: last week? I don't think so. Okay, Um, I think

957
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: I threw. Did you think it was weird last week

958
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: that the Bears had no one? Yes? I actually meant

959
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: to talk about that pregame show. I've never seen that. Yeah,

960
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: that's you know, like we always talk about things that

961
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: I see it, like in the playoffs sometimes yes, you know, yeah,

962
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: but no injuries to report? Nothing? Yeah, yeah, I thought

963
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: that was weird. Yep, damon in the UK with the

964
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: crowd chanting zappie? Did Bill listen to the polls of

965
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: the school teachers and fourth graders last night? Just kidding?

966
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: If he listened to my little pole, he would have

967
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: stuck with Mac. What annoys me most is the position

968
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: Jones was put in. He had six throws. Even Tom

969
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: Brady has thrown a pick in his first six passes

970
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: before Rogers missed a lot early in Week four. It's

971
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: a bad throw, but I get him being a little

972
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: nervous under pressure from the rushers, especially if he knew

973
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: he was coming out after that drive. He didn't know

974
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: he was coming out after that drive, and with the

975
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: crowd chanting the backup's name. Can you blame him at

976
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: a young stage trying to force some magic. I agree

977
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: with that element. It's just that, like Bill told Mac, ostensibly,

978
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: that's the way Bill has explained it. That the plan

979
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: was that both of those guys were going to play.

980
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with when or you know,

981
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: like after a pick or anything like that. But I

982
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: agree with the emailer there, like, I don't think that's

983
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: setting your quarterback up for a position to succeed. I

984
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: think that you're asking for trouble by saying you're coming

985
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: out at some point. Yeah, it's kind of like, you

986
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: know when everybody said, why wouldn't he just say that

987
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: Mac is the quarterback? And I brought up the fact

988
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: that maybe he's trying to send a message to Zappi.

989
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: Max's not ready to play. So I'm not going to

990
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: tell you publicly that when Mac is ready to play,

991
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: he will unquestionably be the starter, because what does Zappi do.

992
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he says, I'm really doing well here, but I

993
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: have to do better because I have no chance to

994
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: be the starter. Once Mac comes back, I have to

995
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: do something to impress him and show him that I

996
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: need to be the starter, and instead of just handing

997
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: the ball off and you know, using play action and

998
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: making throws, I'm going to start trying to play outside

999
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: myself and do things that I'm not capable of doing

1000
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: because I had to show him I could do it all,

1001
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: I could be everything. Right. Well, I think that made

1002
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: some sense, But it works the other way too with Mac.

1003
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: Like you told them specifically, you're coming out, So I'm

1004
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: not going to just throw that ball away on third down.

1005
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to jam it in at the triple

1006
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: coverage they get picked. Ye, all right, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: Patriots fans, you'll want to check out the replay on

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Speaker 1: this one. Pat the Patriot is stealing the show tonight

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Speaker 1: So here we see pat cheering and then whammo is

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Speaker 1: big guy. And wait, now he's paying back his buddy

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Speaker 1: for concessions using Zell. No penalty there, incredible, no way.

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Speaker 1: As if that double move wasn't impressive enough, now he's

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Speaker 1: FDIC just cast on defense. The bear is now the

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Speaker 1: person goal to go and treated the left man in

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00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: motion fields with a fake he was with a quarterback

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00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: turns up field and he dives into the end zo

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Speaker 1: touchdown Chicago. The snapped at Jones and the second down

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Speaker 1: and ten scrambling to his right, throws off the back

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Speaker 1: foot per shot his head off nickt off along the

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00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: near side. They are sented with a one handed gratified

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Speaker 1: brisker at the hangar, off the back foot by Map

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Speaker 1: and floating into the right hand and then both arms

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Speaker 1: a prisker of the Bears with a takeaway in a

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00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: ten nothing lead. And now the Bears have a third

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00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: and ten after two side arm in completions by fields.

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Speaker 1: It takes a shot, good step, he's pressured. He rolls

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Speaker 1: to his right, he pulls up. He's chased black Bolly.

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Speaker 1: He gets away. He's gonna fight Judewn. He then Wilson

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Speaker 1: Henny sacked inside the twenty shot but close to the

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Speaker 1: forty five of New England. Good starting field position for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots with this possession, here comes Zappy Wow Zappy

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00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: playing catch in front of the Patriot bench. Jones with

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Speaker 1: the helmet on our past is commet on. Listened us

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Speaker 1: to Bailey Zappy, who's heard his name chanted from this

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00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: crowd coming out after the interception thrown by Joes on

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00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: the Patriot's third series. There you go, he's got some life.

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: Offensive lineman trying to calm the crowddown. We can't hear

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00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: Harris in the backfield with the place baked Man Zappi

1112
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: dropped back. He throws the low ball rock white on

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Speaker 1: the Jacoby Myers, who makes a twisting baby catch touchdown.

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00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: Patriots look at his place. Fields takes the shotguns stamp

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00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: against the four man rush. He thrown the root ball

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00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: the fucking second to the forty miles. Pride hasn't outside

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00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: to midfield and he's tackled rolling to the Bears forty

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: nine yard laws. The pitch play fake by Zapping and

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Speaker 1: Heat dropped. He's lucking it up. He's thurning the long

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Speaker 1: goll for DeVante Parker foo ladies and makes the catch

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Speaker 1: inside the ten. Another hook up by Sappy the Parker

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Speaker 1: first and goal to go at the seven. Stevenson of

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Speaker 1: the Red Gloves and Red Shoes single setback behind Zapping,

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Speaker 1: takes the staff and gives Romanti runs it back to

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Speaker 1: the ends of cut touch has the Patriots take the lead,

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Speaker 1: pumps it left quickdrodor Herbert Parkers a head runs for

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00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: the fifteen ten gone to the end Zell touch down Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Three Patriots in the batfield surrounding Justin Fields, and meanwhile

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Speaker 1: the rest of the Bears offense is in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Celebraty Dally Hill motion luck Stevenson off the left hip

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Speaker 1: of Zapping, sends Myers in motion into the backfield and

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00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: Jacoby chopped the ball in a hand off the tap

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00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: and have the ball loose covered by Chicago to bear

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Speaker 1: a second down of six from the thirty three. As

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Speaker 1: he takes the staff, he looks to his knock and

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Speaker 1: j fi Ju down. He drives him down and backward

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Speaker 1: to the forty five into me as sack. They'll spotting

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Speaker 1: at the forty one of doing. Luke stap back in

1139
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: the field, feels pressure again. He pumps throw it. He's

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Speaker 1: in trouble. He's gonna escape to the forty twenty nearside

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00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: thirty five thirty galloping for a first down across the

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Speaker 1: twenty five and slicing out of bounds at the Patriot

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Speaker 1: twenty one. They line up in the eye formation. Glasses

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Speaker 1: gave the fullback in front of Montgomery. Let's go. Motion's

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Speaker 1: wife give to Montgomery, run left, lowers the shoulders, hoards

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Speaker 1: the bull into the end zone and touchs down Chicago

1147
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: and you get it taken. Do just gasped or beat him?

1148
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: He's happy with a throw deflucted its sacted by rock

1149
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: Box Smith of midfield. He's gonna run his back white

1150
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Speaker 1: and crossed the forty five forty to the out of

1151
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: guy here hold here, there's a flag on the play.

1152
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: As Smith gets out of bows in front of the

1153
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: Patriot bench, tosses the football to the turf. His teammate

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Speaker 1: any chats that, picks it up and throws it right

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Speaker 1: back to him without They're all going to celebrate the

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Speaker 1: end zone to our left, and meanwhile there is an

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00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: injured Patriot near midfield. Zappi on fourth and two from

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00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: the field, takes the step, he pumps and he throws

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Speaker 1: it to the right games He get the sacond collected

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Speaker 1: by corning down the right side of the twenty to

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Speaker 1: the fifteen of the tad and knocked down out of

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Speaker 1: bouts chased by Thorian. Got to help them mac tones people.

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00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: Zappy drops to the knee. The Chicago Bears have officially

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Speaker 1: come into Foxborough dominated on this Monday night. They got

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00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: some help for the Patriots. Get interception by Jones early,

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00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: a couple of picks of Sappy mad Eber Blues with

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Speaker 1: a terrific game plan, team executing in every phase. You're

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Speaker 1: not blass the Patriots wins it by a thirty three

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Speaker 1: four key puddle. All right back here and Patriots unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: It's deuced, it's tomorrow, it's Paul, it's me. It's Matt

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Speaker 1: so got it, get on the blockchain. I'm not on

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Speaker 1: the blockchain. Yeah, in the blockchain. The Patriots need to

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Speaker 1: get on the blockchain. Is in offensive line blocking and

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01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: wins together. Yeah, it's just in play. I do appreciate though,

1184
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: in the locker room that everyone kind of took accountability

1185
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: for it and it said like I'm not even gonna lie,

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01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: like they completely outplayed us. It wasn't like you know

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01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: anything that like you can't even make excuses for what happened. Basically,

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01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: they outplayed us, they wanted it more. Yes, like and

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01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: some of the other losses this week this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, penalties, turnovers, dumb plays. Yeah, there were so bad,

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01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: but they got physically. Oh yeah, this wasn't This wasn't

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01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: like the Patriots beat themselves with those things like you mentioned.

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01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: This was like, oh, they completely outplayed us. They wanted

1194
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: it more. I mean it wasn't quite no punts force,

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01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: but it was about as close as you can yet. Yeah,

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01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: without being that bad. Yeah, what did I say that

1197
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: dude's name was? Who? Who? Trenton casts. Oh and by

1198
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: the way, we haven't mentioned Bailey the punter. Yeah, he's

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01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: been not good, not good line drive, punts, no hang time.

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Speaker 1: They had great feel position. Yeah. I saw Mike Rees

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01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: ask Bill this morning about the weather, like it almost

1202
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: seems like he's trying to give them an out for

1203
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: the poor performance to say, Oh, I think it did.

1204
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: But maybe Bill wasn't biting on that one either. So yeah,

1205
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: another thing to watch. I mean, it just it feels

1206
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: like your list of things to watch versus your list

1207
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: of things to feel good about, your list of and

1208
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Jones had several opportunities for you know,

1209
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: to return in the kickoff game and not much. There

1210
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of good blocking up front. Think he

1211
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: got past the twenty five once? Yeahn't. They're you know,

1212
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: really missing Cody Davis in a time like this. Bill

1213
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: would go on a long diet tribe as to say,

1214
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Speaker 1: to say, we lost sixty six positions. If if, if

1215
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: Mike had asked it in that way, I mean, just

1216
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: how do you know? Bill? You know you allowed some

1217
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: punt returns last night looked like Marcus was having trouble

1218
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: on kick returns. Do you really miss Cody Davis? He

1219
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: would have gotten a long, So you can't. You can't

1220
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: replay Cody Davis sixty six can't have a backup a position.

1221
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: Let's get to the perfect. Justin's in Virginia. Hey, Justin Bred,

1222
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: I think you're getting better at those reads. It was

1223
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: kind of rough, he really is. He's coming into his own.

1224
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: I think you're mixing me up with Hardy. He's coming

1225
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: into his own. You're right, week six, he's getting stride.

1226
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: Week six jumps. Do you guys think about our chances

1227
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs? Not good? Is there a slither

1228
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: is there something like you know, let's put it. We

1229
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: talked about it last night. These two next games are

1230
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: must if you if you think they have a chance

1231
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: for or you want to have a chance for the playoffs,

1232
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: the next two games are must. I think wins three.

1233
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: There's still so many good teams in the rest of

1234
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: the schedule, right, And it's like that's why I think

1235
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: any wins. But you can pencil wins some losses. You're

1236
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna lose the Buffalo at least once and probably twice.

1237
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: So if you pencil that in, like, how do you

1238
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: how do you figure it from there? Right? You know,

1239
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: Like listen, I thought they were gonna be eight and nine.

1240
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm worried about that at this I think you're gonna

1241
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: end up being right about perfect. You know, some wins,

1242
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: some concerns. Means the Dolphins missed two of for like

1243
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: multiple weeks. We still didn't catch up to the Dolphins, right,

1244
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: do they lost three games in a row? YEA, yeah, yeah, yep.

1245
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: One of those beings this we needed to make hay

1246
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: last night and we didn't do it. No, we we

1247
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: came out flat. It was I think the only way

1248
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs is if they catch a break

1249
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: with other teams injuries, kind of like what happened last

1250
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: year with the seven games, what happened to the Jets. Yes, yes,

1251
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: losing two players this week? I think that, But I

1252
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 1: mean with teams that you're not expecting to beat. Yeah,

1253
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: like the Jets you're expecting to beat. Now, that doesn't

1254
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: mean we just learned. That doesn't mean you're gonna beat them.

1255
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: But like if you know, Josh Allen goes to and

1256
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: suddenly you're able to beat Buffalo in a game that

1257
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: you didn't expect to win. You know, Davante Adams doesn't

1258
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: play in the Raiders game, right, you know, forget Justin Jefferson.

1259
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: There's no way he plays on Thanksgiving? Right, Uh speeds

1260
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: of Fresnoy speak. Hey, that's a that's a stunning game.

1261
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: I was. It was just crazy. At first, it was

1262
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: super exciting with Hey, maybe z that they can step

1263
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: it up, But in the end, it's just like, I

1264
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm more frustrated about massive the defense. Um,

1265
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: I was going to actually ask about what Justin justin

1266
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: the last call I was asking about, but do a

1267
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: variation on it. So assuming the House of Cards is

1268
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: basically all falling apart and the season is kind of

1269
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: slipping away. And that was the inflection point for that

1270
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: last way last night, Like if they're not going to

1271
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: be a playoff team, what is it that you're looking

1272
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: for from from them the rest of the season, Like

1273
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: what kind of signs of growth would you be looking for? Stabilization?

1274
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: Mike is Mac the guy was my anti. That's the

1275
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: big one, because are you looking for a quarterback? Do

1276
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: you have the quarterback? I mean the other stuff you

1277
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: can put little pieces in, but I think that's the

1278
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: big question you got to find out. And I would

1279
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: start it this week because we've been talking about make

1280
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: him the starter. Let him work through whatever he's got

1281
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: to work through until you either feel like, all right,

1282
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: he's starting to work through it and he's showing signs

1283
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: of progress and we feel good about his trajectory now,

1284
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: or he continues to play like he's been playing. He's

1285
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: a turnover machine. The offense can't string two first downs

1286
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 1: together with him playing, and then you know, yeah, he's

1287
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: not He's not the guy. You know we were around

1288
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one when Bill famously said Tom

1289
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: Brady's our start, Our quarterback for the foreseeable future. That

1290
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: put an end to the whole you know, questioning, and

1291
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: I think it helped Brady and it helped his teammates. Okay,

1292
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: this is the guy that's gonna be you know, I'm

1293
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. This is the guy behind me. I

1294
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: know how he plays. He's different than Drew bledsoe you know,

1295
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: and I you know. So I think Bill needs to

1296
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: do that this week. And he doesn't have to come

1297
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: out and proclaim it to us, but he needs to

1298
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: do it with the team in practice. Matt Jones is good,

1299
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: but I think but I think it would mean be

1300
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: more impactful if he did it, yeah, publicly, because I

1301
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: think that was the key in two thousand and one,

1302
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: right right, there were nobody nobody else was asking questions

1303
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: about it. It ended, Yes, yeah, it ended. There was

1304
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: like the that the fallout after that press carvage. Everybody

1305
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: went in the locker room. We all talked to Drew.

1306
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: Drew took the high road, even though he was he

1307
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: gave a lot of next questions. He was pissed, but

1308
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, to meet question, you know, I understood her.

1309
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: I knew how emotionally was so I let it slide

1310
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: for eight or nine years. This was his team, you know,

1311
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: so I get it. But Bill put an end to it, right,

1312
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: and it was not it was not an issue. Now

1313
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: I think that there's you know, I think there's a

1314
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: big difference in that one guy was playing so much

1315
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: far and away better than the other. Yeah, in in

1316
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: this case, you watched last night, so you know, so

1317
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: I wonder, like you know, with other head coaches, like now,

1318
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: this is the third time in Bill's career where he's

1319
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: had like a quarterback decision to make, you know, going

1320
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: back to Bernie Kozar, you know, yeah, what I mean,

1321
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: what do you do if you get to the end

1322
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: of this year and you just you don't really believe

1323
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I'm saying you're the coaching staff,

1324
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: you just don't believe Max the guy, Like, you know, like,

1325
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: how do you approach it? You got to I mean,

1326
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: he's under contract. I mean you could try to trade him.

1327
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: You've got Bailey Zappy who you know, maybe you could

1328
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: trade Mac and just you know, kind of go with

1329
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: Zappy or you know, do you keep both of them,

1330
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: kind of compete and try to bring somebody else in

1331
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: as well. Like I don't it's just a hard place

1332
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: to be. What we talk about when you're in purgatory

1333
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL, it's like you're damned if you do

1334
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: and you're damned if you don't. Yeah, you know, the

1335
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: only thing that saves it is you know, you get

1336
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: that first pick and then you then you can determine

1337
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: your fate. But you know, right, otherwise you're searching every year.

1338
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: But oh, sorry, ahead. This makes me think about Paul's

1339
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: statement that he's made about, you know, not having like

1340
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: the guys these stars around the quarterback. Do you think

1341
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 1: that it could help to get Mac Jones or Bailey Zappy,

1342
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: like that wide receiver one like that guy like a

1343
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams obviously hurt obviously not him, but help a

1344
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: lot that would help, can't hurt. But I wonder if

1345
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: like you go into next season get let's say, let's

1346
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: say that it doesn't happen the way Mike is saying, like,

1347
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 1: you don't find out about Mac this year, and it

1348
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: kind of like is shaping You're stuck in the middle.

1349
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: You mean, well, or like Mac plays but he's okay. Um,

1350
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: you know, the high ankle sprain is not gone, by

1351
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: the way, Like there's a chance that he misses more

1352
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: time due to that ankle um because without having the

1353
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: complete time to rest, like, it's not going to just

1354
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: go away. So what if you get caught not you know,

1355
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: like he doesn't play great, Zappy plays a little bit.

1356
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an open co petition going into camp

1357
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: next year, Mac, I could absolutely see's like, you know,

1358
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: I trade me, I'm out of here, Like I don't

1359
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: want to, like I don't need this. Yeah, Like I

1360
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: think there's a there's there's a chance for like a

1361
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: really tumultuous offseason if it's not what Mike says, like

1362
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: play Mac and find out if Max the guy. But

1363
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: even that stinks, you know, like open competition and start

1364
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 1: it's like it totally stinks. I'm saying that you avoid

1365
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: that by just making the decision now and letting Mac play. Yeah.

1366
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that he Max said, you know,

1367
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 1: I've been in this position before, Like I'm just gonna

1368
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: go out there, I'm gonna practice, I'm gonna get back

1369
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: into routine, and I'm like, you've been in this position before.

1370
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, is he comparing it to like, you know,

1371
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: when he was behind Jalen Hurts that's what that's what

1372
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: he said. But he was never like he was never

1373
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: in play, right, He was never the starter, and then

1374
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: he got hurt and then he had to win his

1375
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: job back. That never happened. But even like when he

1376
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: was when he was like the fifth quarterback in the room,

1377
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: he wasn't really in play. He beat out Bryce Young,

1378
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: yeah barely. Yeah his last year, Yeah, that's it. Yeah,

1379
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: like he didn't have he wasn't like in competition with

1380
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts in TUA. But in his answer he went

1381
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: back to Pop Warner and little Jimmy Sullivan. I remember

1382
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: there was a quarterback he did say, Pop beat out

1383
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: Jimmy Sullivan is silly. That was a really awkward answer.

1384
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: I agree, he said, though that's Fret's not lying about that. No,

1385
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: it's not. It's just it's just he answered that way

1386
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: in the context of a question about leadership of the

1387
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: team right now, it seemed like he was kind of

1388
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: mentally turtling a little bit. It was a very strange response.

1389
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 1: I thought, it's got to be tough up there, because

1390
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: you know that every word you say, he's going to

1391
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: be it's going to come back to you afterwards. He's

1392
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: getting dissected, but not only the the media, your own

1393
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: your but also your own coaches are going to go

1394
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: through and have their all their no what are you saying?

1395
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, it's it's a tough position. I kind

1396
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: of feel bad for him. I do feel bad from him,

1397
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I know that, Like the

1398
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: first question on my mind is like, like if for

1399
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, if you're not gonna make

1400
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's all about Mac, But the entire season

1401
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: hasn't been all about Mac. Is he going to be?

1402
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: Is the franchise quarterback? I just wonder if there are

1403
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: other things. There's so many holes to plug. I don't know,

1404
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: he's wondering other things to be on the lookout for it,

1405
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: keep open, interest alive and thanks for the car listen.

1406
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: In terms of the rest of the team, I think

1407
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: they've got the makings of, you know, some players. I

1408
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: think there's some good play, you know, like Barmore's got

1409
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: to get healthy obviously, but you know, I think Jonathan,

1410
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: there were some young guys that are making just some

1411
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: young guys, and I think you can build. I think

1412
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: you need an infusion of some talent though, and I

1413
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 1: think next year. You gotta you gotta be aggressive, you know,

1414
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: and and spend a little bit of money draft well again,

1415
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: you know, and I will you have to have you

1416
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: can't just have one good draft. You have to have

1417
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: a series of good drafts to get back up there.

1418
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: And I would also say, like, I think they have

1419
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: some young guys making contributions, but there were a lot

1420
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: of openings for young guys to step into. That doesn't

1421
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: necessarily mean they're great just because they're playing. Like I

1422
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: hear a lot of people are, Buddy Fitzie, I've heard

1423
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Here's you know, all ten

1424
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: draft picks played in the game. I mean, real happy

1425
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: for you, Like, you know, it looks like it looks

1426
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: like Marcus Jones is a dynamic return guy. Made a

1427
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: really nice play on defense last night, but he's had

1428
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: a very minimal role on defense. Jack Jones looks like

1429
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: he's a ball hawking kind of defensive back. It's gonna

1430
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: give up some plays, but he's gonna make some plays. Okay,

1431
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: you got a backup quarterback who played because you don't

1432
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: want her to play, Like, I'm not really sure that's

1433
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: a feather in anyone's cap. You know, you have a

1434
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: guard who's playing out of complete necessity. He's been okay,

1435
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: he's not a bust, he's been okay. Cole Strange like yeah,

1436
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: but like, don't confuse it with all these guys are playing,

1437
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: so they're all, what a what a bang up draft?

1438
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's right. Well, and like the thing for me

1439
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: is none of it's really mattered. Like you look at

1440
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: their production in twenty nineteen with the tight ends, they go, well,

1441
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: spend all this money on tight ends. There still getting

1442
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: the same production on the tight ends. And all these

1443
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: old linebackers last year, all these complaints about the defense

1444
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 1: can't stop anybody getting new guys. They still can't stop anybody.

1445
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: So like nothing's changing, and the personnel has evolved a

1446
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: little bit, certainly a quarterback, it's changed. It's changed within

1447
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: this season. That's like what's frustrating to me is that

1448
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 1: we're seeing the same movie over and that's another one

1449
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: over again. Think back to the off season of twenty

1450
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: twenty one, they had the free agency splurge like two

1451
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: hundred and whatever million, and there were a lot of

1452
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: analytical pieces telling you how many teams have done this

1453
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: in the past, And I think Mike Reis had a

1454
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: great breakdown that it almost always works in year one

1455
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: and there's almost always a drop off in year two,

1456
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: and everybody laughed. Those teams don't coached by Bill Belichick. Okay, well,

1457
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: which ones of those free agent acquisitions have been better

1458
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: in year two? Well? So far, Jude On, I think

1459
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: I think he's been the same. But I'll even give you.

1460
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: I'll give you that he's been better. I think he's

1461
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: been the same. I mean after the last night's game,

1462
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm not really prepared to say anybody right like Jalen

1463
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: Mills looks to me to be far worse than he

1464
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: was last year. I think he looked disinterested at times

1465
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: last night. He wanted no part of tackling anybody. I'm

1466
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: hoping by the end of the season will say John

1467
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: hu Smith. The tight ends have been very quiet. Agalore

1468
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: had a little splash early, He's now a non factor.

1469
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, I mean, we forget about in Devon. Gatcha

1470
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 1: is a part of a defensive line that can't stop

1471
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: the run. So I know he's the best defensive tackle

1472
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: in football according to his coach, but he but he

1473
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: can't stop the run. Parker might end up with better numbers.

1474
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: Parker's not a free agent splash from two years ago.

1475
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: Parker they traded for this year. Okay, oh, okay, yeah,

1476
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: but I think, like all everything you're laying out, Paul,

1477
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: this is like it's just making me feel like, you know,

1478
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: Fred said, Oh, we're gonna have some money to spend.

1479
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, right, I'd rather be spending that money

1480
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: on guys who are on the team that are good

1481
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: that you want to retain. It's like, rather than another

1482
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: one of those free agent spending speeds, which sounds great

1483
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: at the time, than cap space club. You mean it

1484
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: like if you're going to take some of that cap

1485
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: space and and have a guy like let's just say,

1486
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 1: like the one, the one draft pick that I'm really

1487
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: really like, sort of intrigued with this is Thornton, Okay,

1488
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: because I think he has a skill set to be dynamic.

1489
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if he is, but I'm willing to

1490
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: take some time here to find out. Let's say he

1491
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: was like finishing year three and he was that guy.

1492
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: He's a guy that you're talking about up there with

1493
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: like Justin Jefferson and those guys. No, now I have

1494
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: the cap space. Let's splurge on keeping this guy right

1495
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: and a deal that because this guy, this guy's a

1496
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: different maker that I already have, I don't have to

1497
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: worry about him fitting into my locker room, my system.

1498
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 1: I know he can, you know what I mean. That's

1499
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that I like the cap space for.

1500
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 1: So I don't have to let talented players go because

1501
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's what the dump teams do, Mike, And

1502
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: then I think it's a question of do they have

1503
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: the talent and the guys that they want to retain

1504
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: that I have shown up, you know, And that's like

1505
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: just the thought of another one of these free Asian

1506
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: splurts is where all of a sudden you're getting all

1507
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: these new guys and like, you know, the thing of

1508
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: like retaining Jacobe Myers, where it's like, hey, here's a

1509
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: guy to hold up as an example that came in

1510
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 1: as an undrafted rookie who has performed and delivered no

1511
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: matter who he's been playing with. He's you know, they

1512
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: should be able to resign like and and will they

1513
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know, We don't don't know.

1514
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: But he's one of the few guys that you should

1515
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: that you can say we developed him ourself. He's been productive.

1516
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: He's not in one a elite talented player that's going

1517
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: to break the bank. So and I know we're getting

1518
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves the off season. But John and Maine writes,

1519
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: and this reminds me of the quarterback controversy between Hugh

1520
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: Millen and Scott Zola. They both were terrible, but Zola

1521
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: won a few games, so everyone was clamoring for him,

1522
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: but neither one of them were very good. Time to

1523
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: draft to Drew BLEDSOE do you think Bailey's Appy's building

1524
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: a whole post football career here in New England by

1525
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: his performance. That's a good job if you can get it.

1526
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: It's a great call right there. He's right. That happened. Yeah,

1527
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: Zoe won a couple of games and everybody went crazy.

1528
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: I think it's the z I told you. It's it's

1529
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: part of the Name's got personality too. There's something you know,

1530
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: he's likable. Chris with a great point, Paul, Chris, t

1531
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: I a n what's up? Christian? That's a good point.

1532
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: You break up there, Paul, Well, and I think I

1533
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: could be more depressed. But after being on hold, what

1534
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: depression I was after last name. We're working through it

1535
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: together here, um, and I just think they weren't ready

1536
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: from Jump Street when they came out, they just right

1537
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 1: away it was ten to nothing, and I was like, okay,

1538
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: Chicago came to play, Um, are we going to show up?

1539
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: And it kind of reminded me of like the twenty

1540
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: twenty home game against the forty nine ers here where Yeah,

1541
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: just from Jump Street that got smacked on the malt

1542
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: and that was it, and I similar game. I really

1543
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 1: don't have like numbers as far as you know, the

1544
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: sort of the instances and how like these type of

1545
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: games seem to be occurring more often to me for

1546
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: some reason. Yeah, I think I saw something Mike and

1547
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: I were talking about Christian. I think they've lost something

1548
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: like five of the last seven home games or something

1549
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: like that. There's a large percentage, and they've all been

1550
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: by double digits, yeah, or the amount of or they

1551
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: like Max lost like six or something of his last

1552
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: eight and they've all been by double digits or something

1553
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, not good. Whatever it is. Yeah,

1554
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: the trend is not a good one. Yeah. Yeah. The

1555
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: aura of Gillette Stadium is gone. Yeah it is. And

1556
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: I Paul brought up a great point last week about

1557
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: what does it say about your roster when you got

1558
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: a sign Cannon and Collins. I mean, what does that

1559
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: say about your team building? It just gets back to

1560
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: what you guys talked about in the draft and all

1561
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: that stuff. Um, it's just really really frustrating as a

1562
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: fan when you look at it the amounts of missus

1563
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: and then you got to have guys coming here to

1564
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: to sort of you know, to fill in the gaps,

1565
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: and then you still get smoked. Um. You know, it's

1566
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: just it's crazy. But I do have a question for

1567
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: the whole group. Has Bill lost team yet? No? No, okay,

1568
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: you think, but but but we talked about like what

1569
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: would it take for like Bill to lose his job,

1570
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 1: And I think we've said in the past, like it

1571
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 1: would he would have to totally lose the team, you know. Yeah,

1572
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: So keep an eye, keep an eye on the little things,

1573
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, to me, one of the little things

1574
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: is a wide receiver saying it that's yeah, you know,

1575
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: that's not right. What happened last night. Yeah, it's the

1576
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: second time. That's a sign to me that things aren't

1577
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: exactly Yeah, great, you put that in the bucket along

1578
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: with the instagrams. That's why I'm not willing to say

1579
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: they haven't lost. I don't. I'm not telling you that

1580
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: he's lost the team because I don't know. I don't

1581
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: I haven't been in the locker room. Like, I couldn't

1582
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: even tell you what the mindset. Now, if Fred asked

1583
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: me the mood, I'd have to say, chiefs Rid, I

1584
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: really don't know. I don't know what I mean. They

1585
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 1: like just facts are facts. They just got thoroughly outplayed

1586
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: by a team on national television that has had won

1587
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: two games going into it that you know, by all accounts,

1588
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 1: they should have smoked. I mean, it's it's uncharted territory.

1589
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they were like nine and a half point

1590
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: favorites at some point the week and they they lost

1591
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: by Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up Eldred? Hey? So listen, ladies,

1592
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: are you are y'all doing good? Well? You know what?

1593
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: For twenty years, like I said, I enjoyed the high

1594
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: and little loads, But this time I'm not enjoying the loads.

1595
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting my butt kicked every date, every day. Now

1596
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: I know how to feel it be down below the

1597
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: we below the pack. We ain't in the pack, we

1598
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: below the pack. Yeah, you know, but my question is this,

1599
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: I know I don't think that was fair how he

1600
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: did Mac And like I told you a couple of

1601
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: weeks ago, if we're in the top five or ten,

1602
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: I still draft a quarterback. I still would draft one

1603
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:28,480
Speaker 1: if you Yeah, if you're in the top five, absolutely

1604
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: I would. But because that means you lost a lot

1605
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: of games, even if you're in the ten, because I

1606
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you have a chance to get one

1607
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: of those guys. Yeah, but I mean I think it's hard.

1608
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: But we know Bill won't do that. Bill a trade out,

1609
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: you know, that right to get more picks. We noticed, right,

1610
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: I boy don't like last time he had an opportunity

1611
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: to pick a quarterback in the first round, he didn't

1612
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: trade it. I would he took the quarterback, yeah, but

1613
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: he could have traded up the one that I wanted.

1614
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, everybody said he he was a bus

1615
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: but that's justin field. I see, say bad with a

1616
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: bad team. Now, Like I said, we've been been with

1617
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: Daniels last year and this year might be a little

1618
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: bit better. They might have been, but like, yeah, I

1619
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: mean it's hard to just automatically assume that. Yeah, and

1620
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: I like Justin Fields, but he hasn't looked good as

1621
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: a pro. Yeah. But but one more question, act y'all

1622
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: because I gotta run real quick. Okay, we're talking about

1623
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: the off season. I know you're talking a little bit

1624
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: of all season and free agency, right a little bit? Okay,

1625
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: how many free agency people you think will come and

1626
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: you don't have a two office coordinator? Yeah, I don't

1627
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: think that that's an issue. If you want a free agent,

1628
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: I think you just give them botload of money in

1629
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: bam and you get it. Yeaham, That's how they did

1630
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: it two years ago. They didn't have a quarterback, but

1631
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: they overpaid for everybody. Yeah, but most people want to

1632
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: win too. And and I think last I agree with Hardy,

1633
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: you packed it in with twelve minutes. No, this least

1634
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: fight to the end. I don't know care if three

1635
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: points or se Yeah. I just disagree that they packed Yeah,

1636
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: I thought they I think they threw the ball on

1637
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: every play, Like I don't really understand, Like the Bears

1638
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: weren't stupid like some teams aren't. They didn't allow you

1639
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: to throw a bomb. They played everything underneath and they

1640
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: made you check it down in the running back, so

1641
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 1: you couldn't do Yeah. They number three in the pass

1642
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: and yeah they number three, so they're good at debt. Yeah,

1643
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: they are good at debt. Yeah, but I mean, you

1644
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: weren't facing the Lions, all right, different, I gotta go,

1645
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: Thank thanks, Aldred. Let's go to Jeff in California. Hey, Jeff, guys,

1646
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey, Hey Jeff guys. Hey, uh So,

1647
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted to call and pick you guys brain

1648
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 1: because during the off season, everybody was making the immediate

1649
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: comparison of Mac making the second year jump to Burrow,

1650
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 1: and during the off season I had called it it

1651
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: put it to you guys whether or not it might

1652
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: be more like a Mac to Baker Mayfield second year jump. Well,

1653
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: you were right. Seems like we're trending a little more

1654
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: in that direction now, yeah, yeah, I mean, I do

1655
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: wonder how much teams have watched Mac. Now, you know,

1656
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 1: he's now played twenty two games, He's eleven and eleven,

1657
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: He's got twenty one picks in twenty two games, And

1658
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 1: I wonder how much teams have sort of watched him

1659
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: and said, these are the things he did, these are

1660
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: these are the trends, these are these are the things

1661
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: we have to watch for. And there's a there's a

1662
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 1: book out on him. Now, I do why I worry

1663
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, And I don't know

1664
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 1: if you guys noticed it last night, because they had

1665
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: it on the broadcast. I kind of flashed it real quick.

1666
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: They made a big deal about. I think it was

1667
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: the second TD where Mac came off the sideline and

1668
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: walked up to Bailey Zappy and congratulated him. Yeah, after

1669
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: the second T But I don't know if you guys

1670
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: noticed it because they flashed it on the broadcast. I

1671
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: think it was on the first t D And when

1672
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: that happened, they went to Mac pasting on the sideline,

1673
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 1: and I swear to God, the moment that they flashed

1674
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: to him, he dropped an F bomb right after the

1675
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: TD and the whole crowd was going nuts. Oh really, yeah,

1676
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: Marine Colo Matt says he saw the same thing. Lapan

1677
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 1: and I both saw and commented on it. What do

1678
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,480
Speaker 1: you think he was f bombing the fans or the situation?

1679
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: The situation. I think I think it was the situation.

1680
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: I think he was. He realized and I text my

1681
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 1: brother about this right when it happened, I said, and

1682
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 1: Mac never played again because I just I think you

1683
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: I think, like, my thought is, I think they lost

1684
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: him last night, and I think what you guys touched

1685
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: on the fans are partly to blame. Yeah, I think

1686
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: they might have lost him. Well, I think they lost him,

1687
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't necessarily say they lost him forever.

1688
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, they did lose him last night. It seems

1689
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: to me though from the post game, and you can't

1690
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: really judge, but from his post game, it seems like

1691
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: he got talked to in a positive way from Bill,

1692
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: like because when he came out in the post game,

1693
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: he seemed to be on board. You know, I thought

1694
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: he was trying to convince himself. I gotta be honest

1695
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: with you. Maybe, but I wouldn't go with the onboard thought. Okay,

1696
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 1: I thought, I agree with Jeff. I'm not telling you

1697
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: they lost him forever, thanks Jeff, because the other guy

1698
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: didn't play well. If the other guy played well last night, yeah,

1699
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: I think you'd a lost him forever. Oh yeah, but

1700
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 1: they could still get him back. They're just gonna have

1701
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: to work at it. Alex and Englewood New Jersey. What

1702
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: a rough primetime game. That was a beatdown. I feel

1703
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: like Matt tried to play a bit of hero ball,

1704
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: go out and show the fans he's better than Zappy.

1705
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Do you all believe that could be a possibility? I

1706
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 1: didn't see that. Also, we can pause that. Can we

1707
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: pause the Zappy fever and just let Mack get back

1708
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: to the number one? I wrote in before the season

1709
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: started and called it a seven and ten season. This

1710
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: game certainly doesn't help me feel we will be any

1711
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: better than that. I expect a rebound with the Jets

1712
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: in them to put up a much better fight than

1713
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 1: last night. I think they will. Oh yeah, yeah, I

1714
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: mean I think. I mean, the Jets are are feeling

1715
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 1: it right now. They've won some games, I mean, won

1716
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: an opportunity for them. I mean, of all the things

1717
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: that have changed since you know, twenty eighteen, here like

1718
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: the one thing that hasn't as the Patriots keeps smacking

1719
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: the Jets around, like regardless of it's Cam Newton or

1720
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, Mac Jones. So I think I think the

1721
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 1: Jets they got something to prove in this game. I

1722
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 1: think they're gonna come out car. They've had some injury

1723
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: issues this week. I can't believe I'm saying this, but,

1724
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 1: like the Breeze Hall injury to me is an enormous

1725
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: break for that I've never thought i'd worry about, like

1726
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: a big injury for the Jets going into a Patriots game.

1727
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,759
Speaker 1: But that's that's a huge break. Yeah, this this email

1728
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: made me laugh. George and Madison New Jersey named this coach.

1729
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I attended Wesleyan University. My first coaching position was with

1730
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Colts. I won six Super Bowl rings as

1731
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 1: head coach and two as defensive coordinator at two different organizations.

1732
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm widely considered to be the best football coach of

1733
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 1: all time and a defensive genius. Yet I've never heard

1734
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: of a quarterback spy? Who am I? That made me

1735
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: like Patricia? That made me like RPI? I just going

1736
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 1: by everybody. Everything gets blamed on Ma, Patricia, not Bill.

1737
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: Let's see people calling in. It's a big show. Thank you,

1738
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: every big show. But we rarely get to talk the

1739
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: day after a game. Decompressed. Chad's in LA. What's up? Chad? Hey? Everyone?

1740
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 1: How you doing today? Good chat? It's been better? Uh?

1741
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:48,799
Speaker 1: A couple questions? Um, the the lady that lived in Chicago.

1742
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: That kind of gave everyone, um, a little bit of

1743
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: a warning. Yeah, Todd talked about that earlier on a call.

1744
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah do you think that's legit? Okay? And then, um,

1745
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: rarely do I blame coaching for you know, what happens

1746
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,560
Speaker 1: in the game. I feel like, you know, one of

1747
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: the greatest of all times would have been able to

1748
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, prepare the team and do all

1749
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: those things. So if there was a breakdown, what is it?

1750
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: And then my last question is, you know, of course

1751
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: about Zappy and h Jones, I feel that it was

1752
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: unfair to Zappy. I mean, he had a winning streak.

1753
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: Rhythm is important, and I just feel like they kind

1754
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: of gave that a way in order to try Jones again.

1755
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: And even though he came out strong, I still think

1756
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: you know that that Myers play, that that disrupted handoff

1757
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: might have shook him a little bit. Yeah. Wait, what

1758
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: is the thing about the the coaching, No, the Myers thing, like, well,

1759
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: the fumbled handoff is Zappy didn't give it to him,

1760
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 1: Like what is it like it was, Oh yeah, the

1761
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 1: ball never got into Myers hands. Okay, because the announcers

1762
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,839
Speaker 1: made it sound like he hit him on the numbers

1763
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: and Myers dropped it. It was a handoff, got a

1764
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: pass and it never really got in. Like I think

1765
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: both guys are at fall, but I mean, Zappy is

1766
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: the guy responsible on a play like that, And I

1767
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 1: mean I think there's an element of Zappy wasn't quite

1768
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: as bad as everybody thinks he was with this, and

1769
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: he was terrible in that game last night. He had

1770
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: a little spark when he came in, mostly because Jacoby

1771
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: Myers made an incredible catch and then he went. I mean,

1772
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: he played the balance of the game and they scored

1773
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: fourteen points. Right, He played three quarters and scored fourteen points,

1774
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: just like in Green Bay he played three plus quarters

1775
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: and scored like seventeen points. Like, they haven't been overly

1776
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: productive with the exception of the Cleveland game offensively. What

1777
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: would you do if Mack is healthy? Man, Mac would

1778
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: be my quarterback. I wouldn't really have a decision to make.

1779
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: But evidently he's not healthy, so I don't know. I

1780
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: don't know what I would do. What if he has

1781
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 1: two picks in the game, would you would you change

1782
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: it out Atack? No? If Mac is healthy, he'd be

1783
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: my quarterback. But he's saying during the game, I wouldn't

1784
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: change him out if he's healthy, right, I agree, I think, yeah,

1785
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: I think I'm with Mike, like you have to find out. Yeah,

1786
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 1: pick one. You're gonna just keep going back and forth.

1787
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: And then Zappy goes in. He throws two interceptions. All right,

1788
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: we're back to Mack like you just you have to

1789
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 1: find out. With Mac, I think. I mean that's fair,

1790
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fair. Yeah, he's played better than Mac

1791
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: Jones in in twenty two. There's no question. All right,

1792
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 1: thanks Chad M happ in Colorado, says Fred, I realize

1793
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: you couldn't stand my watching McCall a candy bars, but

1794
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: humor me, please as I continue to beat this drum.

1795
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: If Belichick selects a draft pick based on positional need

1796
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: or the best player left on the board, no disrespect

1797
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: to Bailey, but why did he choose a quarterback to

1798
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: back up second year Mac with Hoyer on the team

1799
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: and other veterans out there. That is arguably Zappy wasn't

1800
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: the best player left in the fourth He was chosen

1801
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: because of a suspected need. Coach had doubts about Mac,

1802
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 1: and now, whether Belichick intended it or not, there is

1803
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback controversy. Perhaps Zappy makes better decisions, relatively better passes,

1804
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: such as swing passes to the backs downfield balls and Mac.

1805
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:32,679
Speaker 1: Perhaps Zappy has comportment better suited to starting in the NFL.

1806
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: That might be true. The rest of it I don't

1807
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 1: agree with. However, if Belichick really made the interesting choice

1808
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: of Zappy based on presumptive need, then why have Mac

1809
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: as a captain, et cetera, et cetera. In any event,

1810
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 1: it all really boils down to the O and D lines.

1811
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 1: Without those being core strengths, were in trouble regardless, Thank

1812
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: you a team. You make even the tough seasons and

1813
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 1: times better. Luncheon me next month after I make some

1814
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 1: moonlighting cash. Okay, all right, don't spend it on us,

1815
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. I was one of the very few

1816
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: that brought that up as a possibility. I don't know

1817
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: the answer, but at the draft I wondered if this

1818
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: was sort of a hedge or if it was just

1819
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 1: good business. I always think it's good business the draft

1820
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: quarterbacks here, but I did wonder if there was an

1821
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 1: element of, you know, we want to develop a young

1822
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 1: guy so he has someone that he legitimately perceives as

1823
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: competition as opposed to a thirty six thirty seven year

1824
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 1: old guy who's really just there in case of emergency. Yeah,

1825
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: my only thing is just I think maybe it's just

1826
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: unfortunately because of his size, it's just happy looks to

1827
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,560
Speaker 1: me like career backup. Like yeah, I mean, and I

1828
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: know that it is what it is. But but there's

1829
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: not a huge difference in their sizes there. Really it's

1830
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: like one inch, yeah, maybe an inch and a half

1831
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:53,879
Speaker 1: in Max's favors a big inch though Nick in Kansas

1832
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,560
Speaker 1: first looks smaller in his uniform. Yeah, first off, and

1833
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:01,759
Speaker 1: he looks like the kid from Hoosiers first off, switching teams.

1834
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm a zappy guy. Now. Belichick said that his decision

1835
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: to put zappy and wasn't performance based, but I'm not

1836
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 1: buying it. Mac had some scrambles, had picked up a

1837
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 1: few yards, but I think he was scrambling to show

1838
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 1: Bill that he was healthy and could play. Clearly, his

1839
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: ankle wasn't a problem, it was his ability to connect

1840
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 1: with receivers. Zappy brings that he cooled off in the

1841
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 1: second half, But for what the coaches were asking of him,

1842
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,759
Speaker 1: I think he did over first. I hope Mac doesn't

1843
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: become another Harry or Win. Not saying we should trade

1844
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: him this season, but we should get rid of him

1845
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 1: while he still has some upside. I just wow. Yeah,

1846
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: I at this point, I'm just I don't know what

1847
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: I want. But I think back to the year two jump.

1848
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: I have not seen a Year two jump. I forgot

1849
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: who asked that question, but it's just I feel like

1850
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: I think Mike was saying this as I walked in

1851
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 1: when you guys were talking about I think he came

1852
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: in and showed us the same thing that he was

1853
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: doing before he got injured. And just not I'm just

1854
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 1: not excited about either those guys. And I get that

1855
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 1: like some people, I see Bailey Zappy is something new

1856
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: that you haven't explored yet, and but I don't really

1857
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: see anything out of these two guys that makes me

1858
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: think that they're gonna get you back to where you

1859
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: want to be, competing with Buffalo in Kansas City with

1860
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: that kind of team. So you want to go with Zapp,

1861
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: be fine, but I think you need to aim a

1862
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: little You probably saim a little higher if you're ready

1863
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 1: to already move on from Mac. Yeah, yeah, I think

1864
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 1: both of them could be, especially Mac. He can be competent,

1865
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: but you gotta block for him. You know, he's gonna

1866
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 1: he needs things to be right. Yeah, he needs things

1867
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 1: to be right. He's not gonna win games on his own,

1868
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's just it's been disappointing, and I

1869
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 1: think seeing him back out there last night, it just

1870
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, just brought the disappointment back out

1871
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: of just remembering looking at him last year, seeing a

1872
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 1: comfortable guy, looked like he was in control and confident.

1873
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 1: And I don't want to see he looks broken right now,

1874
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: because I think that's too extreme, but he just is.

1875
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 1: And seeing anything like saw all the more reason declare

1876
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: him the starter and let's go. Let's put our full

1877
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: organizational support behind him and see what we've got, and

1878
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 1: see what we have definitively. So would you be mad

1879
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 1: if they did that to ZAPPI? Um, well, only in

1880
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 1: the fact that I think Mac is better. But at

1881
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: least they'd be making a commitment. At least they'd be

1882
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, moving in a in a solidly in one direction.

1883
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 1: At least you'd have that. I would disagree with the

1884
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: person they did it with, but at least they're doing

1885
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: it with somebody. Yeah, but I think it should be mad.

1886
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: I need a decision to be made before this Jets game. Like,

1887
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 1: if Max's ready to go, and he's good enough to start,

1888
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 1: he plays the whole game. If he goes, there's four

1889
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 1: picks in the first half, don't care, plays the whole game. Yeah, Like, yeah, sorry,

1890
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 1: he wants to fight his battles and figure it out.

1891
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: Ye I wouldn't. You don't care. I wouldn't really care.

1892
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree generally with the point of Fred

1893
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 1: that I think that I think that Mac has a

1894
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: slightly higher ceiling, but I'm not really It certainly hasn't shown.

1895
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I would say. But I would

1896
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 1: agree with that. I would agree with the panel. If

1897
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 1: I had to choose, you're asking me to choose, I

1898
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 1: would choose Mac. But I think it's more important that

1899
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: they simply choose. Yeah, choose and stick with it, Like

1900
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 1: you can't change her. Like if obviously, if he reaggravates

1901
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: his ankle and he doesn't feel well, yeah, but Baileien, Yeah,

1902
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 1: but it's different yeh. But but if he goes out

1903
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,560
Speaker 1: there and you take him out because he threw two picks. No,

1904
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: leave him in there. You have the blue pill or

1905
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 1: the red pill? Which pill will you choose? What's what

1906
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 1: movie is that? Paul? No, no idea? Okay what movie is?

1907
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell No, you don't like the matri see it. No, procedurally,

1908
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 1: you don't like your don't. As Mac would say, I

1909
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 1: like my routine. My routine is lawn order and that's

1910
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: what I'm sticking quick you and my wife. Yeah, I

1911
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: mean it's like background noise. It's always on it. They're

1912
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna prosecute it. They're gonna take you from Apple's tonight.

1913
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 1: Um let's go to Cody and Fresno. What's up? Cody? Hey, guys,

1914
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 1: Just to touch on what you guys we're saying right now,

1915
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: I agree that consistency is key across the board, whether

1916
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: an offensive play calling or personnel on the field. You know,

1917
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: they really can't get it going without consistency. But um

1918
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 1: my point to calling, I don't know if you got

1919
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: touched on it. The tip balls from Zappy? Is that

1920
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: really his fault or where the Bears just they just

1921
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,679
Speaker 1: showed up last night? No, I think I think Bears

1922
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 1: had their hands up. What you're supposed to do with

1923
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 1: any quarterback. But like there are quarterbacks who have more

1924
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 1: tip balls than others, it's their faults. There's gonna be

1925
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: one of those things. It's going to start to annoy me.

1926
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 1: It's like, as this week is gonna go on, you're

1927
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 1: gonna be told that Bailey Zappy wasn't quite as bad

1928
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: as you think he was last night telling you trying

1929
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: to figure out Paul. Yeah, he said you played terribly,

1930
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 1: but he did outside of the three turnovers, you know,

1931
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,560
Speaker 1: the handoff as his fault, I give him that, and

1932
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 1: you know the two the two interceptions off the pig,

1933
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: you know those are unfortunate because if they weren't it,

1934
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,640
Speaker 1: were they going to be completed? Were there's going to

1935
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: be Aaron passive? Well, what about the errant passes that

1936
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: he did throw? I thought one of his biggest complete

1937
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 1: one of his biggest completions in the second half. I'm

1938
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: completely convinced he overthrew Hunter Henry in Taekwon Thornton made

1939
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 1: a sliding catch. Now maybe I'm wrong, maybe he was

1940
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: targeting Thrownton all along, but I mean Henry jumped for

1941
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 1: that ball, so if he knew he wasn't the intended receiver.

1942
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you would have done that, but and

1943
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: Paul had Henry you I was in. I squeaked one out. Cody.

1944
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 1: It was close, and I hate you know how much

1945
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 1: I hate fantasy, but I need it now, I need it.

1946
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm all in, How did you do that? I won

1947
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: by six points the Max Baby comparison. I mean, didn't

1948
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: do anything good? No, I mean the pick was absolutely

1949
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 1: his fault. Absolutely totally agree. And when Dad comes in

1950
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 1: and gives us that spark of life, you get hope. Yeah,

1951
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 1: I thought ZAPPI made one play and Mac didn't make any. Yeah,

1952
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 1: the play to the play to Parker. I give that

1953
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 1: play to Zappy. I think that was a great throw

1954
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: to Parker. That's it. That's all I got. Yeah, all right, Cody,

1955
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean the two scoring drives were

1956
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 1: a total of seven plays, and they will they both

1957
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 1: involved one player in each drive, and one of the

1958
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 1: plays on the first drive was all Myers. Yeah. Like,

1959
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: and to your point, he started at better field position

1960
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 1: they did. I mean, the two quarterbacks did very little

1961
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 1: last night, and I agree with Cody. Mac Jones didn't

1962
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 1: make any positive plays. Really, I'm just confused, Like why

1963
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: Mac hasn't had a great second year just because like

1964
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: in the off season he lost his way, got born

1965
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 1: in shape, was at nutritionists, all the things like okay,

1966
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: you go back to okay, worked in the elements, he said,

1967
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: he working different elements, Like, oh, he did all the

1968
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 1: right things. So what's the issue. I don't know, Like,

1969
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 1: but you got to look at McDaniel's leaving and taking

1970
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: at least three other offensive coaches with him, and then

1971
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: they bring in Patricia and Judge and and not and

1972
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: on top of that they try to install a new offense.

1973
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: Like is that part of it? I don't know. But

1974
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: but those those are things that happen. Those are facts. Now,

1975
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 1: did they negatively affect mac in the offensive? You have

1976
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: to look at that. You have to consider it. You

1977
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 1: have to consider it because they happen. Those were things

1978
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 1: that happened in the offer. In addition to the positive

1979
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,719
Speaker 1: things that he took care of himself. He got leaner,

1980
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 1: he got stronger, he worked out with his you know,

1981
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 1: um his wide receivers on his own. Those are all

1982
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: good things. These other things happen too. Were they good

1983
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 1: or bad? Yeah? And I would trace it back to

1984
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: last year too. I mean some of those games at

1985
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: the end of the season, they look similar to what

1986
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: we're seeing now. So I mean, I don't see it

1987
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 1: as like everything was perfect when we last saw maclast winner,

1988
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 1: and now we came back and everything has gone completely sideways,

1989
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 1: like it's it's been a while, And I think Fall's

1990
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: point is like teams getting a sense of what they

1991
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: like to do with him. I think that that's that's

1992
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: a valid part of it too. As we got to

1993
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 1: the off season, I think everybody sort of stepped back

1994
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 1: forgot about the way the season ended and looked at

1995
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 1: the entirety of the rookie season and said, pretty good, right,

1996
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: ten and seven, pretty good, ignoring the fact that he's

1997
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 1: two and seven now it was last nine games. Yeah,

1998
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: and again like this isn't a negative like slant. He's

1999
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 1: eleven and eleven with twenty one picks in twenty two games.

2000
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: Like that's what Mac Jones's career is, so basically the whole,

2001
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 1: Like instead of fixating on the other rookie quarterbacks last year,

2002
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 1: who none of which had none of whom had any

2003
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 1: success except for Mac. Yeah, and by the way, great,

2004
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 1: real happy for you, but he didn't have a lot

2005
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 1: of success either. You know, by the way, averaging a

2006
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: pick a game in the season isn't that bad if

2007
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 1: you're throwing for forty touchdowns, you know, with thirty five

2008
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 1: seventeen touchdowns is a high number in today's NFL. Seventeen

2009
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: intercept I mean intercept. Yeah, that's a high number in

2010
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 1: today's NFL. Now, if you want to throw forty five

2011
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns and you're making some mistakes, I can live with that. Yeah,

2012
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 1: But if you're like thirty two touchdowns seventeen picks, that

2013
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:35,640
Speaker 1: ain't great. Yeah, that ain't great. You gotta be you

2014
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: gotta be under fifteen, I would say, to be one

2015
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: of the better quarterbacks, and like the best ones are

2016
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 1: in single digits. I mean, like, what's Aaron Rodgers throw

2017
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 1: like four now this year? He's a mess. Who knows

2018
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: how many picks he's gonna end up with. But I'm

2019
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,679
Speaker 1: just saying, like I think there's this sort of feeling

2020
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 1: that he accomplished more than he did. That's why I

2021
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 1: asked the question a little while ago to you guys

2022
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: like he just needs to name Mac the starter and

2023
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: go with it. Well, what if he just says I'm

2024
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 1: just gonna name Zappy the starter? And go with it. Well,

2025
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 1: I would disagree with who he chose, but I would

2026
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: agree with the commitment. Yeah, I would agree with because

2027
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 1: like and I think it was Cody who just called

2028
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 1: right And to his point, Bailey, Zappi's played better than

2029
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 1: Mac Jones this year, right, Yeah, that's what's hard. I

2030
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: just I can't remember the last time I was impressed

2031
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 1: with Mac playing a game like, I mean, Jacksonville last year,

2032
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 1: I guess, but that was Jacks played well in Baltimore

2033
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 1: this year, you know, for part of the game. It's like,

2034
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 1: it's like that. But I'm gonna be fair. I don't

2035
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 1: want to give Zappy all the credit for playing well

2036
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 1: last night when it was two drives, right, like it

2037
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: was two quarters and then the other two quarters back

2038
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 1: through three picks. Right, you means Zappy no against Baltimore

2039
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: against Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was probably one

2040
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: of his better games. But it involved no touchdowns and

2041
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: three interceptions. Ye. Let's go to Scott and Wellesley. What's

2042
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 1: up Scott? Scott? Oh? Sorry, all right, Let's go to

2043
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 1: Brian and Florida. What's up? Brian's gone? What's going on here?

2044
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 1: Everybody's bailing? How about Josh and Dallas. Hey everyone, Hey,

2045
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: Josh artist gears to uh to the defensive side of

2046
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 1: the ball. And if this has already been stated earlier,

2047
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 1: then forgive me. But they flashed the dat up on

2048
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: the screen last night that said something like the Bears

2049
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: converted more third down last night than they had since

2050
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 1: two thousan fifteen, I think correct. I believe the color

2051
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: was the quarterback and Matt Forte was a running back,

2052
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 1: so that's just correct. Twenty fifteens the last time they

2053
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 1: had eleven third down conversions in one games. So that

2054
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 1: was disappointing to to see, especially considering, you know, they

2055
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:05,759
Speaker 1: even said on the broadcast usually in these kinds of games,

2056
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: Belichick is going to make you uh find another way

2057
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: to beat him. And it felt like they were pretty

2058
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 1: much on par with the rest of the games they

2059
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:18,719
Speaker 1: played this season in terms of rushing attempts, field passing attempts.

2060
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: And so I'd love to just shoot your thoughts on

2061
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 1: whether you think that breaks down to coaching schemes or

2062
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: was it just xes and OSM. Even in the Brady era,

2063
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: there were some games where the Patriots would play a

2064
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:35,600
Speaker 1: team that they don't face a lot and all of

2065
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, like Matt Flynn from Green Bay looks like

2066
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you know, and it's almost like Bill gets

2067
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 1: stubborn about his game plan. Well like and you don't

2068
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: he didn't know the game plan. He didn't. Yeah, that's

2069
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 1: what it is. And I think last night he had

2070
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 1: that that line during the week that Chicago hasn't run

2071
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 1: and run any design runs for Justin Fields, and they

2072
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 1: came out with a lot of design runs the other

2073
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: team game plans and he didn't know the game plan.

2074
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: I think that more often than not, he's the best,

2075
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 1: so his game plan is accurate to what the other

2076
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 1: team's going to try to do. Last night it wasn't. Yeah,

2077
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, when you're talking about a coach there that

2078
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: he's relatively new too and doesn't have a he doesn't

2079
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: have like a dossier that Bill could look at and say, Okay,

2080
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: this is his patterns, these these are his tendencies. You know,

2081
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: A conundrum for you at last year j and Indy

2082
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 1: writes in it seems to me that mac Jones is

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01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,720
Speaker 1: operating at a four G frequency in the NFL is

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01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: operating at five G. He is an iPhone six. The

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01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: NFL is an iPhone twelve. Poor Mac. Yeah, I feel

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01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: bad for Mac. But like, if you feel like that,

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01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 1: what do you feel like ZAPPI is operating now? Zappy

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01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: sort of an Android? He's not, He's an android? Uh?

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Speaker 1: The fold up one, the new Sam Okay, yeah, yeah,

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01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: you think that he's high tech. Phone still always chumps

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01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 1: anything that Andrew would do. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Andrew

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01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: can keep coming out with cool phones, and it's just

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01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 1: it's never going to be folded up phone is really cheap.

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Speaker 1: Oh really? Oh okay, I misunderstood the analogy. Jay and Indy.

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Speaker 1: I can't let the olds talk. Yeah, over in the corner,

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Speaker 1: J and Indy, I heard it said that Bill Belichick

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01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: is a great coach, and some would say he's the

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01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. But why does it seem that

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01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 1: he's been getting out coached by other teams coaches so

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01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: much in recent years. Well, that's what happens when you lose,

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01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, So what happens when you don't have better players? Yeah? Right, exactly,

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01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, Um he says exactly in a way like

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking the opposite. Maybe he wasn't the greatest, because

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01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what is the greatest I'm gonna try

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01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:56,600
Speaker 1: this email in case, how can you ever know? I

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01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna try this email? Even an amazing coach never won

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01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: a game, but he could come out. He was the best.

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01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Lee and Fall River writes in do you remember the

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01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: days when players wore the pat Patriot logo? Top gun

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01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 1: was out, Kate Bush was on the radio, Daniel LaRusso

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01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: and Johnny were doing karate, and we pulled the first round,

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Speaker 1: fifteenth overall quarterback to go with a later round draft

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01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 1: guy in the draft drafted after one hundred while getting

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01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 1: smoked by the Bears. That would be Tony Easton. I

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01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:29,600
Speaker 1: would imagine. No, the more things changed, Tony Easton was

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Speaker 1: eighty three. Oh yeah, it's a famous class. There's big

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Speaker 1: time class and all that stuff is going on now. Yep,

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Speaker 1: I think that's his point. Yeah, the pat Patriot, Patriot,

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Speaker 1: pat Patriot And going back new season of pretty good Cobra. Kay.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I heard it's uh decent, it's better. Yeah.

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01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 1: The last the last couple I wasn't huge on, but

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01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 1: this one I got. This season was worth it. There

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01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: was some good. Uh what season is five? What show

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01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 1: we I was talking about? Four or five? Four? So

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01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 1: I means I have to see three of all. I know.

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01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 1: I saw the Yeah, she doesn't watch anything. There's no law,

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Speaker 1: there's no order. Heard of the karate Yea. The show

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01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Oh Okay Cobra Kai Okay, based on the original Audrey

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01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 1: and New Hampshire says people are forgetting that the number

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01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 1: one thing that seems to mess up young quarterbacks is

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01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 1: a change of scheme and a change of coach. That's

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01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: exactly what has happened to Mac. And he's being judged

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01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 1: as if he's all been if it's all been steady,

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01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 1: just because Bill is still in charge. I simply can't

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01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 1: look at Max's performance without this important dynamic. It's unfortunate,

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01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 1: but I don't think we can make a fair assessment

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01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: at this time. Man. I mean, I think that's a

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01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 1: fair like extenuating circumstance. I just don't think it explains

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01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 1: his play completely. Yeah, I mean I think. But a

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01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: part of it too is just for me, Like I

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01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 1: thought they were doing everything to make it easier on it.

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01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 1: I think they changed the offense to help him, things

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01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 1: like that's what I like, why else would you do it?

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01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean I think it was It doesn't looked like

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01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean the driving point, Like if Josh McDaniels didn't leave,

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01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't think they would have changed the offense. But

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01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 1: what they did was they used it as an opportunity

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01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 1: to change the offense for him. Like they did it

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01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,719
Speaker 1: because of the coaches. That was the reason that we're

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01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 1: going to change this, because we have coaches coming in

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01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 1: and don't know the other offense. Yeah, so we're going

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01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: to teach them this. But while we're doing it, it's

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01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: going to be catered to you, Matt Jones. And everyone

2154
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: goes through this all the time, like all the things

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01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,679
Speaker 1: that they're doing differently than last year or all things

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01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:38,719
Speaker 1: that should be right in Max wheelhouse and they haven't

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01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 1: really manifested. That's what's so weird. That's what's so weird. Um,

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01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 1: let's see. Dave writes in from Toronto, first time emailer,

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Speaker 1: a long time listener regarding size Paul's inference that our

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01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:53,559
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks are the same size. I didn't say they

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01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 1: were the same size. I said they're both small. Because

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01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 1: this isn't correct. One six three Matt Jones is six

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01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 1: foot two inches five and five eighths. Bailey Zappy is

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01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,839
Speaker 1: six foot zero inches and a half two inch difference

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01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 1: different difference of two point one two five in the

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01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 1: NFL is huge. Combine this with the arm length difference

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01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 1: for tip balls see below. So there's a significant arm

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01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 1: length difference between the two UM measurements on that. Yeah,

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01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 1: he says it's He says it's significant. One is um

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Speaker 1: has a wingspan of seventy four and three quarters, the

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01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:34,560
Speaker 1: other has seventy nine and one eighth. So, uh, that

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01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: puts Mac in the twenty ninth percent tile and Bailey's

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01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 1: in the ninetieth percent. Tyler the other way around, they're

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Speaker 1: both small. So Bailey's got a long arms. Sure, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can give me a numbers both snow, I'm sorry. Yeah,

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01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 1: Mac has seventy nine in an eighth so he's in

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Speaker 1: the ninetieth percent times long. Yeah, but in terms of

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01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:59,560
Speaker 1: arm length it's not that much different. Although Mac is

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Speaker 1: thirty two when five aids puts him in the seventieth

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01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 1: percent time, why are we doing this? And Bailey is

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01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: thirty one and three eights puts him in the twenty

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Speaker 1: eight percent? Time? We are both small, by the way,

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01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 1: for NFL standards, they're both small for quarterback standards. Yes,

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01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 1: for NFL quarterback standards. They're both small, Yeah, particularly when

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01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 1: you take into account that neither of them is a

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01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: dynamic athlete. Like if you're small and Russell Wilson in

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01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 1: his prime, you can get away with it, or you

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01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 1: have the aptitude of like Drew Brees in his prime,

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01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 1: you can get away with it. I haven't seen that

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01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 1: for either one of these two guys. Right, A couple

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01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: more calls, Patty and Agaham, what's up? Patty? Stop everyone? Hey,

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01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 1: So you know last night when I turned on the

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01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 1: pregame show, Maas started with her big key was don't

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01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 1: do anything stupid. And I'm sorry, but going into the

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01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 1: game planning to play two quarterbacks was flat out stupid.

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Speaker 1: I don't I really don't understand the logic of it.

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01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I could say two examples and my football

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01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: and the thirty plus years I've been watching football. One

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01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 1: was in two thousand with Drew Bledsoe and Michael Bishop.

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01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 1: But I mean you had a known commodity with Drew

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Speaker 1: and you were I mean you were trying to pretty

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01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 1: much give crap. Yeah, that was different. See, I I

2203
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 1: don't know this, but I think this is Bill covering

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01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: up for his quarterbacks. Him saying that, so that if

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01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 1: I do have to yank a guy for performance, we

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01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 1: can say it was the plan. Yeah, and I think

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01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 1: he's covering up it's quarterback, and I think he thinks

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01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 1: he's doing them, you know. So you think he put

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01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 1: that out there before the game and Casey had to

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01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. I said, I said this to Alex

2211
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: during the game. I said, watch like in the post game,

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01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 1: Bill is going to be asked why he pulled him

2213
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 1: when he did, and he's going to say, oh, it

2214
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 1: was designed that way all along. We were only going

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01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 1: to play him this amount of stabs. It just so

2216
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 1: happened that it happened after a pick. I was like,

2217
01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna say that, and he's going to say

2218
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't performance based. But he didn't. But I think

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01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 1: he said it wasn't planned. They didn't have a plan

2220
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: on when to take when. Yeah. Yeah, any doubt he

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01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: doubled down on that this morning. None of it makes sense.

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01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 1: None of it makes sense. Do you think it was

2223
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 1: stupid to play both of them? I agree, yeah, And

2224
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 1: I think you just you gotta live and die with

2225
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: one of them. I mean, if if if you get

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01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 1: mac a break for another week. So what I mean,

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01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 1: if you get who cares what the end result is,

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01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 1: even if they still would have gotten blown out, that'd

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01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 1: be playing the whole game or mac playing the whole game.

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01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 1: Just I mean, to me, that's this is like, this

2231
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 1: is a kind of crap where you can lose your

2232
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 1: locker room. What's doing doing stuff like this? And yeah,

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01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:42,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. I said last night, I'm I'm resetting

2234
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 1: my expectations for this team. I thought that this could

2235
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 1: be a ten win team. To me, they'd be lucky

2236
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 1: to win anywhere between like four or five games this year. Now,

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01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, Yeah, that's that's really harsh. It's bad.

2238
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Thanks. You know. Here's the other

2239
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: thing about Bill, and people have said it before, like

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01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't look at quarterback is much different than any

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01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 1: other position, you know, but it is. But he says

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01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 1: it is all the time. Yeah, he says that that

2243
01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: there's a uniqueness to that position. He says that all

2244
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 1: the time. Okay, well then you know then the speculation

2245
01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: is wrong. But I agree, No, I agree with you.

2246
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: And that's how he that's how he acts. It's not

2247
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 1: what he says, but it's how he acts. Yeah, I

2248
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 1: agree with you, but the quarterback position is completely different

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01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 1: than every other position out there. Yeah, you know, like

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01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: do you remember when, like the Miami game, all of

2251
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: a sudden Cole Strange get out the sack. He got

2252
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 1: run right by and then he sat out the next

2253
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: two series, Like you could do that and like no

2254
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 1: one bats an eye, you know, or Isaiah Wynn and

2255
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon in Cleveland. Right, you can't do that and

2256
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 1: expect it to just fly under the radar at quarterback, like,

2257
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 1: no one's going to talk about it. No one in

2258
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 1: the locker room is going to say something about it

2259
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 1: or think something about it. It's even worse than than

2260
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 1: saying it thinking it. If there's some people like, well

2261
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 1: what do we do? And now you know what's happening.

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01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 1: There are guys that are zappy guys, and there are

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01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 1: guys that are matt guys. You know what's happening. It

2264
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 1: has to it's human nature. All right, we're gonna have

2265
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: to wrap it up. We'll be back tomorrow, so everybody

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Speaker 1: hang in there. Tomorrow's a big day. What's that? Oh?

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